I love pinball. ( ever since I was a young boy..... get it? ). I have a Crosstown, Surfer and King Kool machine. I really dig your videos and your banter. I love the artwork all these pieces of electrical americana had, but am always amazed how someone figured out how to make some wired gizmos, paper clips, rubber rings and bells and bulbs make that silver ball take you on that wonderful journey into another place. This is the first time watching you fix one and again, am amazed how you can read the schematics and actually understand what looks Arabic to me. Really cool. Thanks for preserving these pieces of American yesterdays.
I really enjoyed the whole series. I'm glad someone bought it and I'm curious if it sold for more or less than $1000. But that's personal business you might not want to reveal, which I understand. But after seeing this I'm going to look for other Derby Day pinball games and see if there were ever coin operated non pinball horse related games. It was cool seeing you work on a 50's machine that cost five cents to play. Great job!
I think we sold it for $1100 when we were done... they DID make more horse racing games back then, some of them were very fun! check out the games at www.PinRepair.com he shows a bunch of the older Electromechanical games...
Those two metal plates with the large grooves on both sides of the table.. Are those cigarette holders so your cigarette doesn't roll down the table's slope while your playing? It would make sense. I can so remember as a kid the cigarettes placed on the table with the ash hanging over the side while the player works the flippers. There was a resort campground we used to visit every summer when I was a kid. They had an arcade there and they had a lot of really old games. Games that were old even by 1970s standards. Remember the games that had a glass pane inside that created a ghost image of a plane flying around in a circle and you had to avoid obstacles and if you crashed a little matchbox ambulance car would come out with a light flashing? Anyone remember that game? There was a game that fired missiles at aerial targets that worked on the same principal. And there was some kind of a Western shoot out game that worked the same way too. I cant remember what those games were called. These types of games had some kind of a gun mechanism mounted on it that you would aim into a darkened opening and fire at ghost targets reflected on an angled piece of glass. Just like the SeaWolf game you worked on in another video only instead of a TV mounted inside there was an actual playfield with little models mounted vertically inside the lower cabinet. They also had several old pinball games. I remember one of them the back was leaning open against the wall and you could reach up and spin the free game wheel and play for free as much as you wanted.
Yes those are ciggarette holders, any old game that had them originally needs they even if nobody smokes anymore :) The games you're talking about are called "E.M. Gun Games" generally... I've got one here at the shop but I haven't worked on it in awhile, I need to get it out and try to finish it one day... if I do, i'll film it of course. We did an old one with a projector in it, you may enjoy that one. - ua-cam.com/video/6U9_mWikMuY/v-deo.html
@@LyonsArcade Doing a little research I found the two games I remember the most. S.A.M.I. (surface to air missile interceptor) by Midway and Stunt Pilot.
The dielectric grease isn’t conductive, but it helps to make a better seal around your connections, making them more moisture proof, and helping to cut down or eliminate arching between your contacts. It would seem to go against electrical logic to put something that would be an insulator on something electrical, but in cases like the spiders that are on your machines, when they make contact, they are making it in a wiping kind of way, so the metal to metal contact is enough to wipe and squeeze this kind of grease out of the way of actual contact. In something like an automotive bulb, you would just put a little around the screw base of the bulb, but not the tip. Then when you screw it in, you get your metal to metal contact, and any space left will have the silicone between them to seal out moisture and corrosion. We use a fair bit of it in the maintenance shop in the shipyard here in Charleston. All that salt air can really put a hurting on things like that, because it gets damp when it’s humid, but then when it dries out, the salt will remain, and start corroding stuff. The silicone in it is also great for preserving the rubber grommets in your connectors, helping to keep them from drying out, and making them a little easier when you have to open them later. But like all things, too much is also bad, so the old saying about “ a little dab will do you” is good advice in most applications. 😉
Anything's fun if you pay enough attention to it, i'm about to go have fun cutting my back yard's grass! You should see it. I had this issue where these little saplings were growing up all over the place, but I found a poison that permanently kills the tap root, so I've been going around killing them one by one, snipping them down, and then mowing that area. Every day the yard looks better, it's like a gardening video game! Thanks for watching Wolf Web, we appreciate it!
"R" type relays are super stout. Way better than just leaf switches. I'm sure you've seen it with wood rails long before or after this video but if you have issues with certain features acting weird, check the 2 or 4 light bulbs that screw in under the playfield. They appear to only light up the inside of the cabinet for no reason. They are wired in series and act as resistors. Figured this out on my olde King Cole. Had a bulb burnt out.
Did Gottlieb leave out a lot of those 3" bells that go on the 0-9 unit? I have a domino that has been home use it's whole life and no trace of where the bell went. Just the clapper is there. What fun is clicking when points are scored? Also the pic on ipdb shows without yet others have it.
@@LyonsArcade yeah I get that. I'm talking about pins the the Comet you did a great job on. Anyways keep up the good work and I look forward to future videos.
@@LyonsArcade I have a 1966 Cross Town Pinball that i put LED's in, I think it looks better PLUS. Since they are LED's they are drawing less electricity and noticed a improvement in game play, It has more power now
Ken I've heard a lot of people tell me they like the way the LED's look, but you're definitely the first one that told me new light bulbs made the flippers stronger :)
They did inflate, but on the very early ones they had pretty high scores, they would have lights that light up for the score instead of reels so sometimes it'd be 10 Million, etc. Then when they got to the reel games they lowered back down again since I guess they wanted to use less reels, LOL
Yeah its just a big coil driven gate that hold the balls in down there, when that opens they all go towards the elevator/lifter, so you can fire up a 5 ball multi-game right away, as Joe says.
I love pinball. ( ever since I was a young boy..... get it? ). I have a Crosstown, Surfer and King Kool machine. I really dig your videos and your banter. I love the artwork all these pieces of electrical americana had, but am always amazed how someone figured out how to make some wired gizmos, paper clips, rubber rings and bells and bulbs make that silver ball take you on that wonderful journey into another place. This is the first time watching you fix one and again, am amazed how you can read the schematics and actually understand what looks Arabic to me. Really cool. Thanks for preserving these pieces of American yesterdays.
Thanks for watching Chris, we appreciate you hanging out with us! They're a marvel to us too, we love 'em!
I really enjoyed the whole series. I'm glad someone bought it and I'm curious if it sold for more or less than $1000. But that's personal business you might not want to reveal, which I understand. But after seeing this I'm going to look for other Derby Day pinball games and see if there were ever coin operated non pinball horse related games. It was cool seeing you work on a 50's machine that cost five cents to play. Great job!
I think we sold it for $1100 when we were done... they DID make more horse racing games back then, some of them were very fun! check out the games at www.PinRepair.com he shows a bunch of the older Electromechanical games...
Wish there was a bit more of you playing it. It looks mighty fine now.
This game turned out amazing. You did an awesome job on the playfield! If this was anywhere near me I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Cheers from Canada!
Those two metal plates with the large grooves on both sides of the table.. Are those cigarette holders so your cigarette doesn't roll down the table's slope while your playing? It would make sense. I can so remember as a kid the cigarettes placed on the table with the ash hanging over the side while the player works the flippers.
There was a resort campground we used to visit every summer when I was a kid. They had an arcade there and they had a lot of really old games. Games that were old even by 1970s standards.
Remember the games that had a glass pane inside that created a ghost image of a plane flying around in a circle and you had to avoid obstacles and if you crashed a little matchbox ambulance car would come out with a light flashing? Anyone remember that game? There was a game that fired missiles at aerial targets that worked on the same principal. And there was some kind of a Western shoot out game that worked the same way too. I cant remember what those games were called. These types of games had some kind of a gun mechanism mounted on it that you would aim into a darkened opening and fire at ghost targets reflected on an angled piece of glass. Just like the SeaWolf game you worked on in another video only instead of a TV mounted inside there was an actual playfield with little models mounted vertically inside the lower cabinet.
They also had several old pinball games. I remember one of them the back was leaning open against the wall and you could reach up and spin the free game wheel and play for free as much as you wanted.
Yes those are ciggarette holders, any old game that had them originally needs they even if nobody smokes anymore :)
The games you're talking about are called "E.M. Gun Games" generally... I've got one here at the shop but I haven't worked on it in awhile, I need to get it out and try to finish it one day... if I do, i'll film it of course. We did an old one with a projector in it, you may enjoy that one. - ua-cam.com/video/6U9_mWikMuY/v-deo.html
@@LyonsArcade Cool thanks!
@@LyonsArcade Doing a little research I found the two games I remember the most.
S.A.M.I. (surface to air missile interceptor) by Midway and Stunt Pilot.
I always enjoy the electronics videos.
Yeah I like doing the electronic repair better too....
what a beautiful back glass ‼️®™️
I really liked this game!
My favorite table you have restored yet. I will have to see how it turned out.
Yeah I really like the old ones too... there's something special about them!
I love it...when they call it Big Papa!
The dielectric grease isn’t conductive, but it helps to make a better seal around your connections, making them more moisture proof, and helping to cut down or eliminate arching between your contacts.
It would seem to go against electrical logic to put something that would be an insulator on something electrical, but in cases like the spiders that are on your machines, when they make contact, they are making it in a wiping kind of way, so the metal to metal contact is enough to wipe and squeeze this kind of grease out of the way of actual contact.
In something like an automotive bulb, you would just put a little around the screw base of the bulb, but not the tip. Then when you screw it in, you get your metal to metal contact, and any space left will have the silicone between them to seal out moisture and corrosion.
We use a fair bit of it in the maintenance shop in the shipyard here in Charleston. All that salt air can really put a hurting on things like that, because it gets damp when it’s humid, but then when it dries out, the salt will remain, and start corroding stuff.
The silicone in it is also great for preserving the rubber grommets in your connectors, helping to keep them from drying out, and making them a little easier when you have to open them later.
But like all things, too much is also bad, so the old saying about “ a little dab will do you” is good advice in most applications. 😉
Thank you John, I can imagine it would be an absolute necessity on a ship like you said! Thanks for watching, we appreciate it!
Come On People LOL thats great very happy you rebuilt this game Great Great Job
Thank you Burt!
Just got a 1954 Jockey Club. My first restoration project. I love alll youre great work guys. Thanks
Nice job. Love when you get into the schematics. Oh, also the sounds effects are great! Now, back to my A-Go-Go
Thanks Mark, yeah the schematics are really fun. I'll be doing some more stuff soon on pinballs.
Ooh I want a 1950's machine now!
Anything's fun if you pay enough attention to it, i'm about to go have fun cutting my back yard's grass! You should see it. I had this issue where these little saplings were growing up all over the place, but I found a poison that permanently kills the tap root, so I've been going around killing them one by one, snipping them down, and then mowing that area. Every day the yard looks better, it's like a gardening video game!
Thanks for watching Wolf Web, we appreciate it!
@@LyonsArcade i'd watch your how to gardening videos!
Love the old woodrails ;0)
They're really cool, I just like lookin' at em :)
As always great work.
Thank you Simon, we appreciate you watching!
Wow ..nice work 👍 hard to believe that’s the same game 🌟🌟🌟
Thanks Mark!
Really enjoying your videos! Especially the EM pinball restore and troubleshooting, learning a lot! Thank you so much!
Thank you Sarah, we appreciate it. See you on the next video!
I have never seen anything like this. This is 😎 cool
Great job on the machine. The playfield restoration was simply magnificent, too bad you didn't include any before & after comparison pictures.
Thanks Penguinator, we appreciate it!
The add 2 credit coil was also used on some wood rail 2 player machines. Vendor setting changeable to 10 credits for a double match.
"R" type relays are super stout. Way better than just leaf switches. I'm sure you've seen it with wood rails long before or after this video but if you have issues with certain features acting weird, check the 2 or 4 light bulbs that screw in under the playfield. They appear to only light up the inside of the cabinet for no reason. They are wired in series and act as resistors. Figured this out on my olde King Cole. Had a bulb burnt out.
Hey Joe. Incredible work as always. How much did you let it go for? If you don't mind me asking
We sold it for $1050!
Great work as usual!👍🏼
Thank you Danijel!
Did Gottlieb leave out a lot of those 3" bells that go on the 0-9 unit? I have a domino that has been home use it's whole life and no trace of where the bell went. Just the clapper is there. What fun is clicking when points are scored? Also the pic on ipdb shows without yet others have it.
I'm not sure to be honest...
This game is almost as old as my parents!
Love the videos great work. But why don't you LED out the pins? They would look 10 times better!
Putting LED's in a 1956 Pinball is like putting Chrome Rims on a Model T. Looks cheap.
@@LyonsArcade yeah I get that. I'm talking about pins the the Comet you did a great job on. Anyways keep up the good work and I look forward to future videos.
I just don't like the look on the older games personally, it's an easy upgrade the next owner can do if they like that look better....
@@LyonsArcade I have a 1966 Cross Town Pinball that i put LED's in, I think it looks better PLUS. Since they are LED's they are drawing less electricity and noticed a improvement in game play, It has more power now
Ken I've heard a lot of people tell me they like the way the LED's look, but you're definitely the first one that told me new light bulbs made the flippers stronger :)
Surprised by the high scores. I thought scores inflated like everything else over the years, but then this is high dollar horse racing...
They did inflate, but on the very early ones they had pretty high scores, they would have lights that light up for the score instead of reels so sometimes it'd be 10 Million, etc. Then when they got to the reel games they lowered back down again since I guess they wanted to use less reels, LOL
Horse? Race Course? Derby Day?
Has this machine embraced the gambling bug?
No... it's for Amusement Only :)
If it pops out 2 balls would that almost be the first multi-ball ever?
Yup, you can actually play all 5 at once if you want, you can pop another one out at any time, lol.
Yeah its just a big coil driven gate that hold the balls in down there, when that opens they all go towards the elevator/lifter, so you can fire up a 5 ball multi-game right away, as Joe says.
ahh mate you just play with all the classics :D
We try!
More LIGHT please ,,,
First
Yes. Yes you are :)