I'd just like to say that I'm watching this again as I'm down an M8 rabbit hole and your overdubs are killing me 😂 "hand gesture" and "let's point at a few more things with that finger while I navigate the screen for no reason and try to make up for it as I overdub" Gold 🥇
Thank you Josh. I believe you'll pair it with the Deluge? I've wanted to pair it with other gear but it is so perfect in its own that often I just unplug every midi cable I attached to it thinking "there's not much I can't do with the M8 alone. Why bother sequencing other synths with it?" :)
Thank you. I'm not a producer nor music player but this tiny device drives me crazy. Watching people make music on it give me chills. Hopefully i can get my hands on it in the next preorder !!
Very nice to read this! In my opinion once you know the basics, it's even better to not know exactly what you"re doing with this device. So many happy accidents!
Thanks! I'd love to have some insight on your first track with it. I'm really curious about the combination of commands you used to create this semi generative piece. I've had a Peak for some time now and absolutely loved the update. There are so many possibilities and the noise as mod source sounds so good that I keep saving patches that are close to each other but so unique... It's hard to let them go!
@@TristanBaldi Oh sorry man, forgot to check for a reply! My first track was a bit of a mess, I didn't really know what I was doing and I doubt I programmed the generative stuff very efficiently, some of the idea was based on another video I watched. From what I can see, the generative track (2) had specific notes programmed, but they each had a pvb command AND the notes were being decided by a slow Table with lots off note offsets, the main notes were referring to that table and selecting a note offset (tied to the minor scale) to get a variation of notes each time...That table also had a Hop and Ran command in it :) sorry I can't be more helpful, I was blundering my way through making this semi-generative track so it's not very clear and refined, but it worked!
@@stateazure thanks for the reply. Very interesting I hadn't thought of combining pvb, random and notes offsets in tables. I'm not 100% sure how you did it exactly but that is some great insight. I'll try to find the video you're referring to!
thank you! I am going to have to watch this video several times to pick up everything. the m8 is so much to learn, especially when you have zero experience with music production and synths. it's so much fun, though
Glad you like it! I think the M8 is a fantastic tool to create music. I feel like it's not so hard to master, but the amount of possibilities is infinite!
Thank you for this post, very helpful for new m8 users like myself! Also the little text pop ups to highlight the shortcuts are very very helpful. The m8 has such an elegant workflow but it’s taking me lots of practice to correctly utilize the shortcuts when I need them. Great track as well! Love all of the effects and commands used. Definitely need to push my experimentation with this little gem.
I'm in the cue for the September shipping and looking forward to receiving mine. In the mean time I'm learning trackers by way of my newly acquired Polyend Tracker.
As a Tracker noob and a M8 owner, all i can say is : Keep them coming !!! Loving your Vids and the deep dive. Hope i will become nearly as good as you at some point. Subscribed for sure ;)
Hi Tristan, thanks for all the magnificent M8 tutorials. Very inspirational. One little note on the FM synth, for oscillator SW2 I hear you say Saw Wave 2 if I'm correct. SW2 to SW6 are based on sine wavs according to the manual. Thanks and good luck to you!
Tu ne t'en prendras qu'à toi même ! J'ai prévu de tester aussi mais j'aime pas du tout avoir des raccourcis Claver, dans un Daw. Du coup je pense que ça prend beaucoup plus de temps que le M8 a prendre en main. J'ai déjà testé quelques trackers et j'y arrive pas. Le layout du M8 me convient mille fois mieux !
Nice video and great explanation. One think I still can not understand is TRG command on macro synth. Whatever I do it’s does nothing. As far as I understand it supposed to retrieve notes without triggering envelope. But it still trigger envelope. I use AHD envelope. Am I missing something?
Thank you. I'm not quite sure about the trg command as well but I know laaaaa uses it to strum some sounds and achieve some sort of paraphony with the macro synth. Try using it in a table instead of an Fx command in the regular phrase
@@TristanBaldithanks for the reply. Yeah. I have tried to use it in all sort of situations. In the table and in the main fx. As a source for repeat and all kind of places I could think of. Still does nothing. Weird one. It’s not like I can not live without it but at this point it is a matter of principal 😄
@@TristanBaldi I got to the bottom of this 🙃. RTG affects only a few shapes in macro synth. The ones meant to be with attack. From 1cplucked to 24snare.
So I followed this tutorial, step by step. It is amazing . You are helping if nothing else learn the menus and commands and familiarize me with the many available fx and what can be done with them. I did use some of my own samples and changed it a little. But I use your tutorial outline and I did use the Novation patch you played in my track as well. Is it ok if I post my Track on my SoundCloud and or UA-cam if I give credit to you? I am a novice and not quite a professional yet or even that close to it . Still stumbling through my music adventures.
Hey, glad I could help! If you only changed it a little, maybe that now that you have a better grasp of the workflow you should make a track that is 100% your own! For one it will feel a lot better for you, and also as I released this track (the track I'm deconstructing on this tutorial) on my latest album I'd rather keep it to myself. If you only sampled the peak chords and rearranged the progression or modified the main sound that's fine you can call it your own for sure I don't mind!
Can the keystep recognize silence as space between quantized steps? I was thinking of how I can properly quantize some performances for the m8. But more snapping each key press to the nearest step without using a DAW
Your empty chains must contain a number of empty phrases that is matching the number of phrases your other tracks' chains contain so everything moves in sync. If you have a hop command somewhere or have changed the tic rate with the TIC command or any fx that changes the speed of any phrase, your chains will be out of sync. Does it make sense?
If I am making a drum loop on a sample I record and I want the loop to play through , what settings do I need to put on the instrument? I made a drum loop and sampled it into the m8 ,named it and saved it. But it is not playing the whole loop when I sequence it and put into a track just the first few notes and it moves on. What am I doing wrong or do you have a video on creating my own drum loops for tracks using the sampler and my own drum machine ?
Hi, how do you sequence your drum loop? Don't forget the tracks are monophonic, so the loop will get cut by whatever other note of any instrument you put on the same track. Is the loop just randomly stopping? Is it playing at the right pitch? (C4 is the default pitch for samples that are not sliced I believe). Generally you want to make sure your drum loop fits your tempo (but you can later fake timestretch it), then if you don't slice it you just put a c4 at the beginning of your bar and fill the rest with empty phrases so it will play in sync with the rest. If you have a chain with the phrase like chain 01 with the c4 note in the beginning and then no chain at all the loop will stop. It will only continue if you have empty phrases afterwards.
@Tristan Baldi I used a drum machine and recorded a short sample drum loop. And I want to trigger the drum loop in a song track. I guess is what I am trying to figure out. The drum machine was sequencing itself. As I was recording samples of it into the M8.
Let's say you recorded a 64 bars drum loop. What you want to have is a phrase with the C4 note of the instrument you created with the sample in the first phrase (16 bars), and have 3 empty phrases after this in the chain. If FE is an empty phrase and 01 is the phrase containing the drum loop you should have 01>FE>FE>FE in order for the drum loop to go on for the whole 64 steps. If it's a 16 bars loop, you can have 01>01>01>01. Is that your question?
Salut ! Sans doute, mais je n'ai pas le temps (et l'envie) en ce moment de faire une traduction pour cette vidéo ! Je garde ta remarque en tête si je songe à refaire un tuto a l'avenir pour au moins le traduire et ajouter des sous-titres. Mais honnêtement c'est peu probable que je refasse celle-ci
I'd just like to say that I'm watching this again as I'm down an M8 rabbit hole and your overdubs are killing me 😂 "hand gesture" and "let's point at a few more things with that finger while I navigate the screen for no reason and try to make up for it as I overdub"
Gold 🥇
Thanks hex! Yes it's hard to be consistent for a long time, so it creates opportunities for silly overdubs ;)
As a new M8 owner, I could tell from the first minute that this video is gonna be a definitive walkthrough.
Thank you Josh. I believe you'll pair it with the Deluge? I've wanted to pair it with other gear but it is so perfect in its own that often I just unplug every midi cable I attached to it thinking "there's not much I can't do with the M8 alone. Why bother sequencing other synths with it?" :)
The synth tones on that Novation patch ♤
This is madness. Such deep understanding of this machine. Really appreciate your walk through
Thanks a lot, I'm happy it helped !
Thank you. I'm not a producer nor music player but this tiny device drives me crazy. Watching people make music on it give me chills. Hopefully i can get my hands on it in the next preorder !!
I hope you will! Making music on it is a one of a kind experience. I truly think this is the perfect device.
Thank you so much. My m8 came last week but I haven't even opened it knowing I have no idea what I'm doing. This video got me started finally.
Very nice to read this! In my opinion once you know the basics, it's even better to not know exactly what you"re doing with this device. So many happy accidents!
This is extremely helpful, thanks Tristan. Great video! Cool that you have a Peak too, it just got a very nice firmware update I believe.
Thanks! I'd love to have some insight on your first track with it. I'm really curious about the combination of commands you used to create this semi generative piece.
I've had a Peak for some time now and absolutely loved the update. There are so many possibilities and the noise as mod source sounds so good that I keep saving patches that are close to each other but so unique... It's hard to let them go!
@@TristanBaldi Oh sorry man, forgot to check for a reply! My first track was a bit of a mess, I didn't really know what I was doing and I doubt I programmed the generative stuff very efficiently, some of the idea was based on another video I watched. From what I can see, the generative track (2) had specific notes programmed, but they each had a pvb command AND the notes were being decided by a slow Table with lots off note offsets, the main notes were referring to that table and selecting a note offset (tied to the minor scale) to get a variation of notes each time...That table also had a Hop and Ran command in it :) sorry I can't be more helpful, I was blundering my way through making this semi-generative track so it's not very clear and refined, but it worked!
@@stateazure thanks for the reply. Very interesting I hadn't thought of combining pvb, random and notes offsets in tables. I'm not 100% sure how you did it exactly but that is some great insight. I'll try to find the video you're referring to!
@@TristanBaldi I believe it was based on 'Marbles - M8 Generative Ambient ' video by Atomtwist
great video walkthrough! thanks for the mention too. i agree with moustache outro as well
Haha thanks!
Thanks for the mention. Defo gonna watch this after work today!
Cheers Rob. I absolutely love your Metal track with the M8. Very inspiring!
This video is so well made, easy to understand. Some other “tutorials” are more like doodling around. Thanks for the video!
I'm glad it helped!
I got one from todays batch and this video is going to be a massively helpful resource. Thank you!
I'm glad it'll help! Enjoy your device!
Once again best M8 content. Thank you , I was trying to figure out how to sample in to my M8
You def have some of the best M8 material on UA-cam. Great job, Tristan. Can't wait to get my order in once T80 gets his new batch ready. 🤙🏼
Thank you Brando, much appreciated!
Excellent video, love that you’re going so in-depth. Also nicely visualized. 👏🏻
Thank you VVLV, I appreciate
Superbe format tuto !!!
Très content que ça te plaise !
Really well done! Love the song and usage of possibilities of the M8.
Hoping to get my order in this upcoming Monday.
Will be watching this a few times.
thank you! I am going to have to watch this video several times to pick up everything. the m8 is so much to learn, especially when you have zero experience with music production and synths. it's so much fun, though
Glad you like it! I think the M8 is a fantastic tool to create music. I feel like it's not so hard to master, but the amount of possibilities is infinite!
Thank you for this post, very helpful for new m8 users like myself! Also the little text pop ups to highlight the shortcuts are very very helpful. The m8 has such an elegant workflow but it’s taking me lots of practice to correctly utilize the shortcuts when I need them.
Great track as well! Love all of the effects and commands used. Definitely need to push my experimentation with this little gem.
Thank you for the nice comment. I'm glad I could help you!
Great video! Buy this album (I’m Tired).I did. It’s wonderful!!😊
Hey thank you @daddylongles!
This song is beautiful, thank you for sharing
I'm in the cue for the September shipping and looking forward to receiving mine. In the mean time I'm learning trackers by way of my newly acquired Polyend Tracker.
Fantastic video. It must have taken a long time to make. Much appreciated 🙏
Thank you David. It was definitely a bit long but I'm glad it's helpful!
@@TristanBaldi very useful. I could do with a video dedicated to the FM Synth engine 😜
Thank you!
Very well explained, congrats!
As a Tracker noob and a M8 owner, all i can say is : Keep them coming !!! Loving your Vids and the deep dive. Hope i will become nearly as good as you at some point. Subscribed for sure ;)
Thank you Andreas!
@@TristanBaldi no, thank you for doing what you do ;)
Thank you
Very cool, thanks for doing this Tristan!
You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed it
Amazing
great stuff ty very much man !
Thank you!
Thanks for the shoutout!
Hi Tristan, thanks for all the magnificent M8 tutorials. Very inspirational. One little note on the FM synth, for oscillator SW2 I hear you say Saw Wave 2 if I'm correct. SW2 to SW6 are based on sine wavs according to the manual. Thanks and good luck to you!
Right I was mistaken there! Thanks for the heads up and the kind words!
Love all yer content!!! Wonderful!! Lots to learn.
And the word timbre is prob tam brrrrr. In English:)
Thanks! And yeah "tam brrr" I'll get it right next time ;)
@@TristanBaldi even us english speakers don’t know how to say:)
J'me suis mis à Renoise pour apprendre les bases à cause de toi !
Tu ne t'en prendras qu'à toi même ! J'ai prévu de tester aussi mais j'aime pas du tout avoir des raccourcis Claver, dans un Daw. Du coup je pense que ça prend beaucoup plus de temps que le M8 a prendre en main. J'ai déjà testé quelques trackers et j'y arrive pas. Le layout du M8 me convient mille fois mieux !
@@TristanBaldi on fait avec c'qu'on a 😇
Nice video and great explanation. One think I still can not understand is TRG command on macro synth. Whatever I do it’s does nothing. As far as I understand it supposed to retrieve notes without triggering envelope. But it still trigger envelope. I use AHD envelope. Am I missing something?
Thank you. I'm not quite sure about the trg command as well but I know laaaaa uses it to strum some sounds and achieve some sort of paraphony with the macro synth. Try using it in a table instead of an Fx command in the regular phrase
@@TristanBaldithanks for the reply. Yeah. I have tried to use it in all sort of situations. In the table and in the main fx. As a source for repeat and all kind of places I could think of. Still does nothing. Weird one.
It’s not like I can not live without it but at this point it is a matter of principal 😄
@@TristanBaldi I got to the bottom of this 🙃. RTG affects only a few shapes in macro synth. The ones meant to be with attack. From 1cplucked to 24snare.
Mine arrived a few days ago my building did not inform me so im just playing with it now
So I followed this tutorial, step by step. It is amazing . You are helping if nothing else learn the menus and commands and familiarize me with the many available fx and what can be done with them. I did use some of my own samples and changed it a little. But I use your tutorial outline and I did use the Novation patch you played in my track as well. Is it ok if I post my Track on my SoundCloud and or UA-cam if I give credit to you? I am a novice and not quite a professional yet or even that close to it . Still stumbling through my music adventures.
Hey, glad I could help!
If you only changed it a little, maybe that now that you have a better grasp of the workflow you should make a track that is 100% your own!
For one it will feel a lot better for you, and also as I released this track (the track I'm deconstructing on this tutorial) on my latest album I'd rather keep it to myself.
If you only sampled the peak chords and rearranged the progression or modified the main sound that's fine you can call it your own for sure I don't mind!
Does it support stereo sampling or convert the stereo sample into mono?
Can the keystep recognize silence as space between quantized steps? I was thinking of how I can properly quantize some performances for the m8. But more snapping each key press to the nearest step without using a DAW
I'm not sure about this, I never used an external midi keyboard with it! It should be mentionned in the manual!
Helping your algo
Cheers!
Question: how can I avoid song mismatches in song mode? When I add empty chains some parts play before and others after, very out of sync.
Your empty chains must contain a number of empty phrases that is matching the number of phrases your other tracks' chains contain so everything moves in sync.
If you have a hop command somewhere or have changed the tic rate with the TIC command or any fx that changes the speed of any phrase, your chains will be out of sync. Does it make sense?
@@TristanBaldi Yes! was able to figure it out now, thanks :D
i want to know aboit your loft bed!
@@evilrainbow hahaha it was the one from the owner of the apartment I rented... But I moved since!
If I am making a drum loop on a sample I record and I want the loop to play through , what settings do I need to put on the instrument? I made a drum loop and sampled it into the m8 ,named it and saved it. But it is not playing the whole loop when I sequence it and put into a track just the first few notes and it moves on. What am I doing wrong or do you have a video on creating my own drum loops for tracks using the sampler and my own drum machine ?
Hi, how do you sequence your drum loop? Don't forget the tracks are monophonic, so the loop will get cut by whatever other note of any instrument you put on the same track.
Is the loop just randomly stopping? Is it playing at the right pitch? (C4 is the default pitch for samples that are not sliced I believe).
Generally you want to make sure your drum loop fits your tempo (but you can later fake timestretch it), then if you don't slice it you just put a c4 at the beginning of your bar and fill the rest with empty phrases so it will play in sync with the rest.
If you have a chain with the phrase like chain 01 with the c4 note in the beginning and then no chain at all the loop will stop. It will only continue if you have empty phrases afterwards.
@Tristan Baldi I used a drum machine and recorded a short sample drum loop. And I want to trigger the drum loop in a song track. I guess is what I am trying to figure out. The drum machine was sequencing itself. As I was recording samples of it into the M8.
Let's say you recorded a 64 bars drum loop. What you want to have is a phrase with the C4 note of the instrument you created with the sample in the first phrase (16 bars), and have 3 empty phrases after this in the chain. If FE is an empty phrase and 01 is the phrase containing the drum loop you should have 01>FE>FE>FE in order for the drum loop to go on for the whole 64 steps.
If it's a 16 bars loop, you can have 01>01>01>01. Is that your question?
@@TristanBaldi yes this is helpful thank you 😊
Hello Tristan,
Refaire la même vidéo en français (tu serais le seul) t'apporterait pas mal de vue je pense ;)
Salut !
Sans doute, mais je n'ai pas le temps (et l'envie) en ce moment de faire une traduction pour cette vidéo ! Je garde ta remarque en tête si je songe à refaire un tuto a l'avenir pour au moins le traduire et ajouter des sous-titres. Mais honnêtement c'est peu probable que je refasse celle-ci
@@TristanBaldi Oui je comprends bien !
Elle reste compréhensible.
Merci pour ton travail ;)