Dave, everything you said on this video was spit on. As Americans, we have lived in Portugal for 7 years. First Lagos and now recently Figueira da Foz. We absolutely love it. Yes, there are inconveniences, but as retired educators, we have time, and now, infinite patience. Our lives have slowed and the quality increased. Such a drastic change from the pace in Los Angeles. We love your videos because we can absolutely relate. Thanks
@@ruinunes8251 exactly. I went there with no expectations and was blown away by how much I enjoyed it. Porto was gorgeous, had great food, fun people, beautiful scenery, and all at a fair cost. I can't wait to go back and wish I could get a visa to stay longer.
A good source of Portuguese history written in English that is based largely on Portuguese research is " A History of Portugal and the Portuguese Empire", volumes one and two, by A.R. Disney. I highly recommend it.
The few that remain there.... Around 30% of young people (including myself) had to leave the country due to the insane taxes and lack of opportunities. It's a great country for everyone else, but not for Portuguese. Enjoy it
@DennisBonich Or maybe you are too sensitive. You can be sure that it's much harder for a Portuguese to adapt in Denmark with cold and distant people, than the other way around.
@DennisBonich All the other tourists are wrong and you are the only one who's right. You see, many people confuse kindness with subservience, but soon learn that they misunderstood the Portuguese. Find another vacation spot, no one cares.
Very honest, but with the thin walls, I had the opposite experience. I grew up in the Saldanha area in Lisbon, and apartment walls were very thick (always lived in the same place). I have lived in the U.S. for many years now, and apartment walls are super thin here, a lot thinner, than in Lisbon.
Man I love you’re channel! My girlfriend and I are coming to live in Lisbon in a couple months and you’re tips have been amazing to help us get an idea of what to expect :)
OMG O'rapido (hope I'm spelling it right) Number 12. Thank you Dave for I saw your videos before I went to Portugal last may and Brother, you know your S... . We had an amazing time in both Lisbon and Porto where I found I have roots. But Orapido and again, my apologies for misspelling it, was the best, we went twice. I definitely have Portugal as a favorite place ti visit in my heart. Thanks again Pal.
Great channel. You are doing a very good job. You know Portuguese have some features that are common to very old nations and sometimes are not well understood by foreigners. When you are born in a country with almost 1000 years, you inherit so much from that long history.
Enjoying your content! I moved to Southern Portugal about a year and a half ago from California. The struggle to get packages delivered is very real here and is not something most expats expect. I have a 12 month lease, but am unable to get my address registered with the post office so I have to pick up packages in random locations depending on the carrier. Prior to that I was in short term rentals and again quite a project to get your packages. I have picked up packages at the local tobacco store, the local cafe, the local market, random small post offices that exist nowhere on google maps and at lockers at gas stations where getting the correct code is virtually impossible. I am still waiting on a package sent for my birthday by a family member from Denmark and it is nowhere to be found. I love living in Portugal, but it can be quite surprising how primitive the mail delivery services can be here. You gotta be willing to roll with it and be patient!
So strange you are saying this. Just give them an address and the package will arrive and in a couple of days from anywhere in Europe. You must live out in the boonies where the delivery trucks dont want to go.
@@antoniocruz8083 Unfortunately this is a problem in many areas of Portugal. I was having this issue in a large town. It can be dealt with, but expats should be prepared for this possibility and also the time it can take to track down a package.
@@jaanaprall9961 I can't see it only happening to foreigners and it has never happened to me or anyone I know and I've ordered hundreds of stuff online. Indeed, on the day of delivery they send a message or even call you if you're not home. You should find out what the reason is because online stores want successful deliveries and the distributers they work with must do a good job or they'll be changed.
Correction about the couvert... I've been working in Bar and Restaurants for 20 years now... by law the menu from each place must have printed somewhere in it's pages the tax percentages (IVA) that is applied... and also state that any item brought to the table without being asked for can't be charged... So if you want to update for the next video. Everyone that sits on a table and receives their couvert without asking for it. Just eat it and you can lawfully decline payment of those things. If the people at the place you're eating at starts to make a big deal and forcing you to pay, just say you'll call the police and they will most likely remove it from yout tab quickly. And carefully read your receit, most times since some places have prices for locals, they look cheap to tourists and most just pay without reading what's on their bill, at tourist traps they will most likely add extra stuff to the bill and you won't notice if you don't check it.
didn't know the signature thing was isolated to Portugal, interesting. Coverts as far as I know were always paid, usually we send back anything we don't want to pay for, is not much anyway unless you get cheeses/pates. Bread and olives always stays lol but true that if you don't know it sounds cheeky
The bread thing is not a tourist thing, always paid, my trick to bread is only if it's not an usual daily bread, if it's regional bread or wood oven baked, if it's the daily one i don't eat. I like one called Broa de Avintes, but i only eat if e see it's fresh warm.
@@inesdinis4268 Galician wedding gift... Spain didn't exist as a nation yet. It was a set of kingdoms Castilla, Aragon, Navarra y Leon. Galicia eventually became part of the kingdom of leon.
@@inesdinis4268 Spain only came to a de facto existence in 1516 after the death of Ferdinand of Aragon, but the Spanish Kingdom was never declared until 1713 when the Bourbons came to power or with the 1812 Cádiz Constitution. Portugal obtained independence from the Kingdom of Leon.
You are right!! Portugal really is the oldest NATION-STATE in Europe and that's a fact. Portugal was recognized as a kingdom in Iberia in 1143 and then officially a nation-state, as declared in the Manifestis Probatum, the bull issued by Pope Alexander III, on May 23, 1179. No, not San Marino guys, but Portugal. Even the European Commission Website says it: Portugal is the *oldest nation-state in Europe*. Founded in 1143, its current borders were established in mid-13th century, making them some of the most ancient in Europe and the world.
@@viggolek It is ungrateful for San Marino to talk about what constitutes a nation-state because San Marino was a city-state. The aspects that constitute a nation-state are: 1- Recognized Sovereignty: The nation-state is a political entity with sovereignty and supreme authority within its borders. 2 -Defined Territory: A nation-state has clearly established borders, within which it exercises its authority and laws. 3- Government: The nation-state has a government system that administers and legislates over the territory and the people who live in it. 4- National Identity: There is a sense of common identity among citizens, which can be based on elements such as language, culture, ethnicity, or shared history. When we talk about a "nation-state being older", we talk about its uninterrupted historical continuity. Portugal has met all the criteria of a nation-state in the modern sense since the 12th century, being the oldest in Europe declared in the Manifestis Probatum, the bull issued by Pope Alexander III, on May 23, 1179. As a nation, Portugal has the date of birth in 1139, formal recognition as a kingdom in 1139 (Treaty of Zamora), but as a nation-state officially only in 1179. The "traditional" founding of San Marino dates back to 301 AD. The foundation is attributed to Saint Marino, who, to escape religious persecution, established a Christian community, not a nation. San Marino is more appropriately described as an independent city-state. However, San Marino can be considered the oldest republic in Europe. Although the first significant treaty that guaranteed San Marino's independence was from 1291 by Pope Nicholas IV, we cannot say that it is a foundational document. San Marino, although it has a long history of autonomy, with more formal recognition gained through treaties and agreements over the centuries with other states, does not have a single founding document that would mark recognition as a nation-state. The traditional foundation of San Marino dates back to 301 AD, and the formal documents that guaranteed and recognized its autonomy date back to around 1291 and the following centuries. It all comes down to the formal recognition of Portugal as a sovereign kingdom and the continuity of its borders and government since the 12th century. Therefore, Portugal is generally considered to be the oldest nation-state in Europe in terms of the formalization and continuity of its status as a nation.
Lived in a skinny, claustrophobic apartment in Bairro Alto for a year. The noise from the street, night and day. The noise from the neighbours - upstairs, downstairs and next door, was never ending. You always knew who was fighting, who was f@cking, who was flushing, who was watching football, who was eating too loud, who was snoring. Cool neighbourhoods aren't so cool if you can't ever find peace and quiet. It messes with your sanity. Will never understand how the locals manage to live with the constant din for decades on end.
Bread: I don't mind paying for it, but they serve stale rolls along with the fresh. One day we had lunch at a nice restaurant on a popular shopping street and the bread was delicious. The next morning, when I tried to feed the leftover bread to the pigeons, it was the texture of paper. The pigeons didn't even want it!
That last remark about restaurants craked me up lol, as a Madeiran i find hilarious the amount of people that go to certain places here, we have an extremelly famous bar/coffee shop/restaurant here, where the waiters wear stupid warm uniforms, and it was extremelly popular back in the late 1800s to mid 1900s the epitome of luxury, and simple 0.70€ coffe there is 2€ ( and its the exact same coffee as the other places ) the only people there are tourists, no madeiran goes to that place, and most of us mock the " idiots " that go there, because right in the next street, there is a litlle " hole in the wall " restaurant/bar, and that thing is ALWAYS full both of locals and tourists as well.
People go to that place "where the waiters wear stupid warm uniforms" for the experience. Do you understand that? If you go on holidays, you most certainly paid over the odds for some drinks or meals in some places. And the locals in this places where you are on holidays were laughing their a*se out at you as well.
You are one of us already mate! Accurate as F this one; well maybe the water temperature was a bit under the usual temps in the summer ar all above 20 especially south of Lisbon.
Not quite 100% accurate about the water temperature; where I live in the far Eastern Algarve and where the Bay of Cadiz cuts in, the summer temperature of the sea is well over 20 degrees. Today, the water temperature in Tavira is 20.1 degrees. Great video though as usual.
The oldest nation state in Europe is not San Marino but Portugal. San Marino only officially becomes a nation-state in 1243 to 1291, the Holy See only grants state status to San Marino in 1631 (which is what officially counts). The identity of this micro state dates back to 301, but not the proclamation as a nation-state. Now Portugal is officially a nation state, as declared in the Manifestis Probatum, the bull issued by Pope Alexander III, on May 23, 1179.
Portugal was never a tax haven for Portuguese.. Oh I forgot, those don't matter and that's why 30% of young people (including myself) moved out of the country.
It was though. Any Portuguese that left for 5 years qualified for NHR. But I agree, Portugal should go full Balkan and do a flat 10% rate like Bulgaria for everyone
@@daveinportugal the lack of logic from the government is beyond ridiculous... They don't decrease taxes, so people leave the country massively. Then, they notice that there is a lack of qualified people, so they offer the tax incentive for everyone who is out of the country because they need more qualified people. But don't fix the root of the problem, which is making people leave in the first place... I could qualify for that, but I'm not coming back any time soon, it's just the country where I was born and have family, but not where I want to build my family Nothing against you or anyone who takes advantage of the benefits, I also moved to a country with much better taxes (although they also apply to locals), but it's sad to see the double standards and lack of logic
@@LFANS2001 yes, i saw that it was, just pointing out there are some similar ingredients to my favorite =) I have not tried the dish shown yet but will look for it if I am ever out eating. Obrigada ;p
Hi Dave! We recently went to Portugal and as recommended by you, booked a Tuk Tuk tour with SuperMario! We enjoyed it so much that we actually have a gift to send to him, however after watching your video I am unsure he will receive it??? Is there any way around this?
One time while visiting Porto, I entered a real nice and high end looking restaurant over looking the Douro River. Well, I ordered an almost €25 plate. The bacalao was terrible, it was spongey and tasteless. I was so hungry. I tried to finish it but just couldn't. I ate the other thing on my plate. I noticed some people trying to figure out if they would come in or not, as I was near the front door I could observe them. I actually motioned to one guy (using just body language) with my facial gestures; dude, don't even come in here, the food is terrible.
Only if you consider all public services should be "free" (aka paid by someone else) But you can still go live in Somalia if you don't like state taxation lol!
@@ronan.pellen WHAT are you talking about??? Nothing is for free! You have to pay for everything!!!!!! Now explain why you justify taxation which is nothing more than the money collected to the amount decided unilaterally, with rules determined unilaterally, and without any sort of contract to hold both parties in case of unfulfillment!? And explain how the service provider whose revenue is obtained outside supply/ demand/ price KNOWS how much of what is necessary and where to allocate it?? And also how does the service provider, who simply collects money that the payer cannot dare not to pay, actually know they are doing a good job with that capital, since the payer will have to pay anyway??? The state functions outside any contractual scope and totally outside the possibility of any economic calculous!! It just collects money that it has not earned!!! That "public service" for you!!!! Can you give an answer on how to perform the economic calculous and how to be a provider under such conditions??? If not ,YOU go to Somalia, my dear!!!
Robalo is the Portuguese name for seabass which is one of the most common caught fish off the coast of Portugal. You are confusing it with Snook (aka Robalo) a completely different fish. Oops.
@@daveinportugal in that case, I am wrong. Wikipedia makes it a bit confusing, and at one point I even stopped ordering it in local restaurants. In any case, now is sardinha season, sorry robalo! Best of luck to your channel, Dave.
You can try Olivauto. It's a small rent-a-car that i have used several times. The service is great, cars are good and i think it has reasonable prices.
The oldest nation state in Europe is not Portugal, the oldest nation state in Europe is The Most Serene Republic of San Marino, they obtained their independence from the Roman Empire in year 301.
The oldest nation state in Europe is not San Marino but Portugal. San Marino only officially becomes a nation-state in 1243 to 1291, the Holy See only grants state status to San Marino in 1631 (which is what officially counts). The identity of this micro state dates back to 301, but not the proclamation as a nation-state. Now Portugal is officially a nation state, as declared in the Manifestis Probatum, the bull issued by Pope Alexander III, on May 23, 1179.
@@paulocastrogarrido3499 ah great argument. If you want to read it easy without scientific papers, than you can go to the European commission website and read what they say.
I can’t wait to move into my house permanently and start to pay tax there. For now we are only there 90 days at a time, hope to be a resident early next year.
Can't wait to go there and pay tax there? Wtf? Try being a young 20's year old, trying to survive on the salaries and taxes there... Don't glorify taxes in Portugal, they are the reason 30% of young people leave the country, be more respectful please
@@jorgesimoes5706 Yes, that is what I do, if I don't ask, don't bring it to the table. It goes back and stays somewhere in the kitchen, bar, where ever the barman decides to leave it. Then goes back to the table again to the next customer. If the next customer doesn't want it, it goes back again, Freshness at its best. Hilarious.
Portugal is the oldest nation state in Europe and that's a fact. A certain population proto history doesn't determine what a nation state is, but the official birth of it's institutions. Now Portugal is recognized kingdom in Iberia since 1143 and then officially a nation state, as declared in the Manifestis Probatum, the bull issued by Pope Alexander III, on May 23, 1179.
@@Eu-Abreu Sorry to ruin your firm conviction but the oldest nation state in Europe and that's a fact is Greece (was an official country for the first time in 388 BC created precisely by the father of Alexander the great, King Philip called at that time the Hellenic League with capital Corinth)
@@ypruss nop, certainly not Greece, there's no source that appoints to Greece. Oldest city is in Greece, sure. But not a nation state. Greece official date, my friend, is 1830's. Respectfully there's no debate ground here for you. Next.
@@Eu-Abreu "...there's no source ..." Don't worry i've done all the homework for you so to have easy access to sources. That being said, it was certainly a nation state: In modern terms was more like a Constituent country (a type of country which serves as an administrative division like the United Kingdom with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland or the Kingdom of the Netherlands with Aruba, Curaçao and Sint Maarten all in the Caribbean or the Kingdom of Denmark etc.) Was a League governed by the "Hegemon" (leader) and the "strategos autokrator" (in a military context), with a council (Synedrion), the judges (Dikastai) and with the delegates of the member-states (Synedroi) who were responsible for administering the common affairs of the League. They were summoned and presided over by a committee of presiding officers (Proedroi), chosen by lot in time of peace, and by the Hegemon in time of war. All that under the Treaty of the Common Peace (like a modern costitution) Here you find some sousces of what it was: Diodorus, Book 17.3[9] when Alexander the great become strategos autokrator of all Greeks with a resolution "..Then he called a meeting at Corinth of envoys and delegates, and when the usual representatives came, he spoke to them in moderate terms and had them pass a resolution appointing him general plenipotentiary of the Greeks and undertaking themselves to join in an expedition against Persia seeking satisfaction for the offences which the Persians had committed against Greece.11 Successful in this, the king returned to Macedonia with his army..." Plutarch, Alexander [14.1] Diodorus Siculus, Book 16, 89.[3] etc.
@@yprussThis is the proof of… well, nothing! To explain to you what you just wrote: you wrote about how a conglomerate of ruling entities, inside a CIVILIZATION, ruled their city-states under one Ruler for a brief time. You didn't defend how it was a nation-state. You just talked about a dynamic, not about the continuous existence of one nation-state. First: You need to know what a nation-state is, and what criteria it needs to be fulfilled. Second: You need to understand the difference between a nation-state and a Civilization Third: If one day, for some miraculous reason, you prove that Greece is the oldest continuous nation-state in Europe, then you have to do it with a paper and have it peer-reviewed in the academy because at this point you are not arguing with me but with academics, because no one defends it. Ancient Greece consisted of a collection of city-states (Poleis: such as Athens, Sparta, Corinth, and Thebes) with independent governments, even during the rule of Alexander (more like the Iberian Union). Alexander the Great temporarily unified several Greek city-states under his rule, mainly through the League of Corinth (a military alliance). The Political unity (different from the military alliance) was superficial and temporary, without a unified and continuous central administration. After Alexander's death, his empire was divided among his generals (the Diadochis), leading to the fragmentation of the political unity he had established which did not form a unified and continuous nation-state. The modern concept of a Greek nation-state emerged only in the 19th century, with the Greek War of Independence (1821-1829) against the Ottoman Empire, resulting in the creation of the Kingdom of Greece in 1830. Portugal, on the other hand, has a linear political continuity as a nation-state. The founding of the Kingdom of Portugal is traditionally dated to 1139 when Afonso Henriques proclaimed himself king after the Battle of Ourique. This event was formalized in 1143 with the Treaty of Zamora, and independence was recognized by the Pope in 1179 with the manifestis probatum. If you told me that Greece is one of the oldest and most influential CIVILIZATIONS in the World, I would agree, but not the oldest nation-state in Europe. To shorten your search, if you don't want scientific articles: Go to the European Commission website and see what they write about Portugal.
@@kevinbath7625 I ´d rather be in Britain ´s position than in Portugal´s position ! In the long term it will much better for Britain. Unfotunately it not be for my country Portugal .
@@western1010 genuinely interested in your position here and thoughts around why you think Britain will be in a better position than Portugal. I'm tempted by a move (either whole or partly) away from Britain to Portugal.
I don’t agree with much here, this guy does not know much about Portugal. Lived here 16 years, I have a better reality. Never call a Portuguese restaurant lousy, your just ordering poorly…
You don't know what you're talking about. Portugal is FULL of bad restaurants, with bad service, bad food and high prices. There are of course exceptions, and that's why i usually go to the same restaurants. Why should i pay a lot for a bad meal if i can do exactly the opposite?
The salt "cooks" the cod. It gives it a specific consistency. For the portuguese tradicional dishes this is essential. Of course, they may not be to your taste and that is fine (more left for us). Cod is rarely found fresh in Portugal as it does not exist in our waters we do not miss it, and might even find it a bit of a waste if not salted and cooked our way. There are plenty of other species of fish we will only have fresh and some (few) species we will also eat from frozen By the way...there are very few nations in the world that can teach us anything on eating fish.
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Dave, everything you said on this video was spit on. As Americans, we have lived in Portugal for 7 years. First Lagos and now recently Figueira da Foz. We absolutely love it. Yes, there are inconveniences, but as retired educators, we have time, and now, infinite patience. Our lives have slowed and the quality increased. Such a drastic change from the pace in Los Angeles.
We love your videos because we can absolutely relate.
Thanks
'Spit on' ...OMG, is that an L.A. educator thing? Or did you mean Spot ON! Coming to Portugal. 🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂
@@rhiannonskyeoleProbably that doggone autocorrect. LOL
WE'RE ALMOST THERE!!!!
São João it's so close now, I can almost smell the grilled sardines now.
Can't wait for the best evening of the year!!!
Dave, started watching you from California, now living in Braga. Always appreciate your videos.
Man, I don't even care about the taxes anymore. I got to spend a month in Porto last year and have been trying to get back ever since.
If you like Portugal it should be for what is it and not simply from a tax perspective.
@@ruinunes8251 exactly. I went there with no expectations and was blown away by how much I enjoyed it. Porto was gorgeous, had great food, fun people, beautiful scenery, and all at a fair cost. I can't wait to go back and wish I could get a visa to stay longer.
A good source of Portuguese history written in English that is based largely on Portuguese research is " A History of Portugal and the Portuguese Empire", volumes one and two, by A.R. Disney. I highly recommend it.
Thanks for the recommendation!
If you only see (not necessarily to Dave) Portugal as a tax haven or from an exclusively fiscal perspective, don't come, please!
Agreed 💯
Tax heaven in Portugal it's not a reality at the moment
@@bymrsnadia yeah, and that's good.
The best part of Portugal are the people ❤!
The few that remain there.... Around 30% of young people (including myself) had to leave the country due to the insane taxes and lack of opportunities.
It's a great country for everyone else, but not for Portuguese. Enjoy it
@@jpm545agreed
@DennisBonich Maybe you've met people who are fed up with rude Danes...
@DennisBonich Or maybe you are too sensitive.
You can be sure that it's much harder for a Portuguese to adapt in Denmark with cold and distant people, than the other way around.
@DennisBonich All the other tourists are wrong and you are the only one who's right.
You see, many people confuse kindness with subservience, but soon learn that they misunderstood the Portuguese.
Find another vacation spot, no one cares.
Perfect timing for this video to release. A week after I returned from a week trip to Lisbon and Porto 😅
Very honest, but with the thin walls, I had the opposite experience. I grew up in the Saldanha area in Lisbon, and apartment walls were very thick (always lived in the same place). I have lived in the U.S. for many years now, and apartment walls are super thin here, a lot thinner, than in Lisbon.
So true
Man I love you’re channel! My girlfriend and I are coming to live in Lisbon in a couple months and you’re tips have been amazing to help us get an idea of what to expect :)
You're the first non native portuguese speaker I hear that pronounces the "lh" well.
OMG O'rapido (hope I'm spelling it right) Number 12. Thank you Dave for I saw your videos before I went to Portugal last may and Brother, you know your S... . We had an amazing time in both Lisbon and Porto where I found I have roots. But Orapido and again, my apologies for misspelling it, was the best, we went twice. I definitely have Portugal as a favorite place ti visit in my heart. Thanks again Pal.
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Great channel. You are doing a very good job. You know Portuguese have some features that are common to very old nations and sometimes are not well understood by foreigners. When you are born in a country with almost 1000 years, you inherit so much from that long history.
Enjoying your content! I moved to Southern Portugal about a year and a half ago from California. The struggle to get packages delivered is very real here and is not something most expats expect. I have a 12 month lease, but am unable to get my address registered with the post office so I have to pick up packages in random locations depending on the carrier. Prior to that I was in short term rentals and again quite a project to get your packages. I have picked up packages at the local tobacco store, the local cafe, the local market, random small post offices that exist nowhere on google maps and at lockers at gas stations where getting the correct code is virtually impossible. I am still waiting on a package sent for my birthday by a family member from Denmark and it is nowhere to be found. I love living in Portugal, but it can be quite surprising how primitive the mail delivery services can be here. You gotta be willing to roll with it and be patient!
So strange you are saying this. Just give them an address and the package will arrive and in a couple of days from anywhere in Europe. You must live out in the boonies where the delivery trucks dont want to go.
@@antoniocruz8083 Unfortunately this is a problem in many areas of Portugal. I was having this issue in a large town. It can be dealt with, but expats should be prepared for this possibility and also the time it can take to track down a package.
@@jaanaprall9961 I can't see it only happening to foreigners and it has never happened to me or anyone I know and I've ordered hundreds of stuff online. Indeed, on the day of delivery they send a message or even call you if you're not home. You should find out what the reason is because online stores want successful deliveries and the distributers they work with must do a good job or they'll be changed.
Correction about the couvert... I've been working in Bar and Restaurants for 20 years now... by law the menu from each place must have printed somewhere in it's pages the tax percentages (IVA) that is applied... and also state that any item brought to the table without being asked for can't be charged...
So if you want to update for the next video. Everyone that sits on a table and receives their couvert without asking for it. Just eat it and you can lawfully decline payment of those things. If the people at the place you're eating at starts to make a big deal and forcing you to pay, just say you'll call the police and they will most likely remove it from yout tab quickly.
And carefully read your receit, most times since some places have prices for locals, they look cheap to tourists and most just pay without reading what's on their bill, at tourist traps they will most likely add extra stuff to the bill and you won't notice if you don't check it.
Is this true ?
@@cfatal3290 yep.
That’s why there are no couverts on the tables anymore.
Hey Dave, here in Porto lunch goes usually until 3pm!
Nice video as always! ❤
Helpful. Thank you and God bless you.
The couvert is charged but there are no mandatory tips. I think it´s great!
didn't know the signature thing was isolated to Portugal, interesting. Coverts as far as I know were always paid, usually we send back anything we don't want to pay for, is not much anyway unless you get cheeses/pates. Bread and olives always stays lol but true that if you don't know it sounds cheeky
The bread thing is not a tourist thing, always paid, my trick to bread is only if it's not an usual daily bread, if it's regional bread or wood oven baked, if it's the daily one i don't eat. I like one called Broa de Avintes, but i only eat if e see it's fresh warm.
Loved this one Dave👍🏾
Portugal is more like seven hundred years older than Spain. Regardless of the disagreements, it's much older.
Portugal started as a spanish wedding gift. Um condado de Castela filho
@@inesdinis4268 Galician wedding gift... Spain didn't exist as a nation yet. It was a set of kingdoms Castilla, Aragon, Navarra y Leon. Galicia eventually became part of the kingdom of leon.
@@inesdinis4268Spain is not Castille
@@inesdinis4268 Spain only came to a de facto existence in 1516 after the death of Ferdinand of Aragon, but the Spanish Kingdom was never declared until 1713 when the Bourbons came to power or with the 1812 Cádiz Constitution. Portugal obtained independence from the Kingdom of Leon.
Brutal pessoal, obrigado
You need to do a part 2 about the insane barking dogs and the horrendous car emissions from all the old cars.
Same in Greece😢
You are right!! Portugal really is the oldest NATION-STATE in Europe and that's a fact. Portugal was recognized as a kingdom in Iberia in 1143 and then officially a nation-state, as declared in the Manifestis Probatum, the bull issued by Pope Alexander III, on May 23, 1179.
No, not San Marino guys, but Portugal.
Even the European Commission Website says it: Portugal is the *oldest nation-state in Europe*. Founded in 1143, its current borders were established in mid-13th century, making them some of the most ancient in Europe and the world.
what exactly constitutes a nation-state?
@@viggolek It is ungrateful for San Marino to talk about what constitutes a nation-state because San Marino was a city-state.
The aspects that constitute a nation-state are:
1- Recognized Sovereignty: The nation-state is a political entity with sovereignty and supreme authority within its borders.
2 -Defined Territory: A nation-state has clearly established borders, within which it exercises its authority and laws.
3- Government: The nation-state has a government system that administers and legislates over the territory and the people who live in it.
4- National Identity: There is a sense of common identity among citizens, which can be based on elements such as language, culture, ethnicity, or shared history.
When we talk about a "nation-state being older", we talk about its uninterrupted historical continuity.
Portugal has met all the criteria of a nation-state in the modern sense since the 12th century, being the oldest in Europe declared in the Manifestis Probatum, the bull issued by Pope Alexander III, on May 23, 1179. As a nation, Portugal has the date of birth in 1139, formal recognition as a kingdom in 1139 (Treaty of Zamora), but as a nation-state officially only in 1179.
The "traditional" founding of San Marino dates back to 301 AD. The foundation is attributed to Saint Marino, who, to escape religious persecution, established a Christian community, not a nation.
San Marino is more appropriately described as an independent city-state. However, San Marino can be considered the oldest republic in Europe. Although the first significant treaty that guaranteed San Marino's independence was from 1291 by Pope Nicholas IV, we cannot say that it is a foundational document. San Marino, although it has a long history of autonomy, with more formal recognition gained through treaties and agreements over the centuries with other states, does not have a single founding document that would mark recognition as a nation-state. The traditional foundation of San Marino dates back to 301 AD, and the formal documents that guaranteed and recognized its autonomy date back to around 1291 and the following centuries.
It all comes down to the formal recognition of Portugal as a sovereign kingdom and the continuity of its borders and government since the 12th century. Therefore, Portugal is generally considered to be the oldest nation-state in Europe in terms of the formalization and continuity of its status as a nation.
Good one, Dave! 👍🏼😊
Dave, You're getting chubby! Nice weather, great women, amazing food, and there you go!!! Congrats! Keep on rockin!
Lived in a skinny, claustrophobic apartment in Bairro Alto for a year. The noise from the street, night and day. The noise from the neighbours - upstairs, downstairs and next door, was never ending.
You always knew who was fighting, who was f@cking, who was flushing, who was watching football, who was eating too loud, who was snoring.
Cool neighbourhoods aren't so cool if you can't ever find peace and quiet. It messes with your sanity. Will never understand how the locals manage to live with the constant din for decades on end.
Perfect ,as usual . Thank you. 😄
I’m enjoying watching your videos as I’m travelling to Portugal in September. I never assume bread is free.
The typical restaurant lunch times are 12 noon through to 15:00 (3pm) not 2pm!
Non sound insolated floors too. High heels clack echo up and down all floors.
The bread is paid everywhere,❤
Bread: I don't mind paying for it, but they serve stale rolls along with the fresh. One day we had lunch at a nice restaurant on a popular shopping street and the bread was delicious. The next morning, when I tried to feed the leftover bread to the pigeons, it was the texture of paper. The pigeons didn't even want it!
That last remark about restaurants craked me up lol, as a Madeiran i find hilarious the amount of people that go to certain places here, we have an extremelly famous bar/coffee shop/restaurant here, where the waiters wear stupid warm uniforms, and it was extremelly popular back in the late 1800s to mid 1900s the epitome of luxury, and simple 0.70€ coffe there is 2€ ( and its the exact same coffee as the other places ) the only people there are tourists, no madeiran goes to that place, and most of us mock the " idiots " that go there, because right in the next street, there is a litlle " hole in the wall " restaurant/bar, and that thing is ALWAYS full both of locals and tourists as well.
People go to that place "where the waiters wear stupid warm uniforms" for the experience. Do you understand that? If you go on holidays, you most certainly paid over the odds for some drinks or meals in some places. And the locals in this places where you are on holidays were laughing their a*se out at you as well.
@@ruinunes8251 what experience lol, there is no experience, none what só ever.
Muito obrigado Dave ❤️🇵🇹💚
You are one of us already mate! Accurate as F this one; well maybe the water temperature was a bit under the usual temps in the summer ar all above 20 especially south of Lisbon.
Literally every travel vlog I've ever watched about Portugal tells you this.
Ocean water Temperature in the summer 24 and some time more - see data below
I'm from lake Tahoe as well and thinking about moving to portugal next year...
Not quite 100% accurate about the water temperature; where I live in the far Eastern Algarve and where the Bay of Cadiz cuts in, the summer temperature of the sea is well over 20 degrees. Today, the water temperature in Tavira is 20.1 degrees. Great video though as usual.
Your water temp is wrong. Algarve aversges about 22C in summer
San Marino is older than Portugal. But as a portugues I am still proud foe how long Portugal exists and the rich history.
Lisbon is older than San Marino. Take that you tiny land locked rock!
The oldest nation state in Europe is not San Marino but Portugal. San Marino only officially becomes a nation-state in 1243 to 1291, the Holy See only grants state status to San Marino in 1631 (which is what officially counts). The identity of this micro state dates back to 301, but not the proclamation as a nation-state.
Now Portugal is officially a nation state, as declared in the Manifestis Probatum, the bull issued by Pope Alexander III, on May 23, 1179.
És um verdadeiro português.
Great insights to Portugal! Did you sell your house yet? Where do you live now?
O Panças is one of my favorite restaurants in Lisbon
Portugal was never a tax haven for Portuguese.. Oh I forgot, those don't matter and that's why 30% of young people (including myself) moved out of the country.
It was though. Any Portuguese that left for 5 years qualified for NHR. But I agree, Portugal should go full Balkan and do a flat 10% rate like Bulgaria for everyone
@@daveinportugal the lack of logic from the government is beyond ridiculous... They don't decrease taxes, so people leave the country massively. Then, they notice that there is a lack of qualified people, so they offer the tax incentive for everyone who is out of the country because they need more qualified people. But don't fix the root of the problem, which is making people leave in the first place...
I could qualify for that, but I'm not coming back any time soon, it's just the country where I was born and have family, but not where I want to build my family
Nothing against you or anyone who takes advantage of the benefits, I also moved to a country with much better taxes (although they also apply to locals), but it's sad to see the double standards and lack of logic
@@daveinportugal bruh 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice of you to try Panças in Amadora, close to my home, but next time try Pancitas in Queluz de Baixo
Acabei de te ver em Leiria, ao longe!
Before I moved to US (35 years ago) bread, butter and olives was free but I guess soon they joined EU things changed and 23% taxes is crazy
That cod dish you showed looks a lot like my favorite Bacalhau a Brás =)
Não, era Bacalhau à Lagareiro! Yahmy!
@@LFANS2001 yes, i saw that it was, just pointing out there are some similar ingredients to my favorite =) I have not tried the dish shown yet but will look for it if I am ever out eating. Obrigada ;p
In einer Welt ohne tauschen wird auch diese Erfahrung nur noch Erinnerung bleiben.
the information ,
about Algarve's ocean water ...
is incorrect !
has water temperatures of 23 / 24 ºC ...
7 degrees more than you said !
Hi Dave! We recently went to Portugal and as recommended by you, booked a Tuk Tuk tour with SuperMario! We enjoyed it so much that we actually have a gift to send to him, however after watching your video I am unsure he will receive it??? Is there any way around this?
Nice video ! thanks Dave
Desta forma, as bóias fundeadas ao largo do Algarve registaram este ano uma temperatura média de 22.3°C em julho e de 23.9°C em agosto.
ocean is warmer in Madeira and Porto Santo.
and Azores
One time while visiting Porto, I entered a real nice and high end looking restaurant over looking the Douro River. Well, I ordered an almost €25 plate. The bacalao was terrible, it was spongey and tasteless. I was so hungry. I tried to finish it but just couldn't. I ate the other thing on my plate. I noticed some people trying to figure out if they would come in or not, as I was near the front door I could observe them. I actually motioned to one guy (using just body language) with my facial gestures; dude, don't even come in here, the food is terrible.
John Doe must really like you. I noticed you get a lot of letters from him. 🤣🤐
5 stars always keep up the good work
dave did you sell your house and leave?
Not being taxed is not a "benefit" for which one should be thankful...
Those who do not tax us deserve no praise.
Taxation is extortion...
Only if you consider all public services should be "free" (aka paid by someone else) But you can still go live in Somalia if you don't like state taxation lol!
@@ronan.pellen WHAT are you talking about??? Nothing is for free!
You have to pay for everything!!!!!!
Now explain why you justify taxation which is nothing more than the money collected to the amount decided unilaterally, with rules determined unilaterally, and without any sort of contract to hold both parties in case of unfulfillment!?
And explain how the service provider whose revenue is obtained outside supply/ demand/ price KNOWS how much of what is necessary and where to allocate it??
And also how does the service provider, who simply collects money that the payer cannot dare not to pay, actually know they are doing a good job with that capital, since the payer will have to pay anyway???
The state functions outside any contractual scope and totally outside the possibility of any economic calculous!!
It just collects money that it has not earned!!!
That "public service" for you!!!!
Can you give an answer on how to perform the economic calculous and how to be a provider under such conditions???
If not ,YOU go to Somalia, my dear!!!
I can't believe you don't like bacalhau à Brás or bacalhau com natas :o But I understand, we do have a lot more and good fish! Robalo is the best
And Dave is wrong about robalo as well, because it's not caught in Portuguese waters. It's caught in the Western part of the Atlantic. Oops.
Robalo is the Portuguese name for seabass which is one of the most common caught fish off the coast of Portugal. You are confusing it with Snook (aka Robalo) a completely different fish. Oops.
@@daveinportugal in that case, I am wrong. Wikipedia makes it a bit confusing, and at one point I even stopped ordering it in local restaurants. In any case, now is sardinha season, sorry robalo! Best of luck to your channel, Dave.
It takes a real one to admit when they are wrong. Cheers to that 🍻
Hey Dave, unrelated to this video, any advice on how to find a decent deal for car rental in Lisbon?
You can try Olivauto. It's a small rent-a-car that i have used several times. The service is great, cars are good and i think it has reasonable prices.
Lisboeta here! 100 percent! Thanks David x Informative and light
obrigadíssimo isabel!
The French do the couvert as well.
I wouldn’t call a delicious basket of bread and cheese for 2 euros a scam
it depends what cheese and what bread we are talking about. Cheap cheese and papo seco for 2 euros, no thank you
No one (except "conspiracy theorists", of course) tells you about Portugal is that people are MASSIVELY dying there 💀💀💀
Re; Oldest country in Europe: What about Denmark?
The oldest nation state in Europe is not Portugal, the oldest nation state in Europe is The Most Serene Republic of San Marino, they obtained their independence from the Roman Empire in year 301.
The oldest nation state in Europe is not San Marino but Portugal. San Marino only officially becomes a nation-state in 1243 to 1291, the Holy See only grants state status to San Marino in 1631 (which is what officially counts). The identity of this micro state dates back to 301, but not the proclamation as a nation-state.
Now Portugal is officially a nation state, as declared in the Manifestis Probatum, the bull issued by Pope Alexander III, on May 23, 1179.
@@Eu-Abreu that's not correct, read more about it.
@@paulocastrogarrido3499 ah great argument.
If you want to read it easy without scientific papers, than you can go to the European commission website and read what they say.
@@Eu-Abreu the European Commission is a propaganda machine...
its ok to add a commercial, you have to make a living. buy why not say so? talking about sneaky :)
Water is cold except in Madeira Island
I can’t wait to move into my house permanently and start to pay tax there. For now we are only there 90 days at a time, hope to be a resident early next year.
Can't wait to go there and pay tax there? Wtf?
Try being a young 20's year old, trying to survive on the salaries and taxes there...
Don't glorify taxes in Portugal, they are the reason 30% of young people leave the country, be more respectful please
Well, isn't the bread free? So what? If your interest in Portugal stems from things being cheap, please stay away.
I'm Portuguese too and I don't like to get things arriving to the table without me asking for it.
@@ruinunes8251 Just tell them to take them back. Simple.
@@jorgesimoes5706 Yes, that is what I do, if I don't ask, don't bring it to the table. It goes back and stays somewhere in the kitchen, bar, where ever the barman decides to leave it. Then goes back to the table again to the next customer. If the next customer doesn't want it, it goes back again, Freshness at its best. Hilarious.
Portugal is not so mediterranean???
Portugal isn't mediterranean at all!!!
Portugal is not the oldest, check Poland and it’s history!!!
Portugal is the oldest nation state in Europe and that's a fact. A certain population proto history doesn't determine what a nation state is, but the official birth of it's institutions. Now Portugal is recognized kingdom in Iberia since 1143 and then officially a nation state, as declared in the Manifestis Probatum, the bull issued by Pope Alexander III, on May 23, 1179.
@@Eu-Abreu Sorry to ruin your firm conviction but the oldest nation state in Europe and that's a fact is Greece (was an official country for the first time in 388 BC created precisely by the father of Alexander the great, King Philip called at that time the Hellenic League with capital Corinth)
@@ypruss nop, certainly not Greece, there's no source that appoints to Greece. Oldest city is in Greece, sure. But not a nation state. Greece official date, my friend, is 1830's. Respectfully there's no debate ground here for you. Next.
@@Eu-Abreu "...there's no source ..."
Don't worry i've done all the homework for you so to have easy access to sources. That being said, it was certainly a nation state: In modern terms was more like a Constituent country (a type of country which serves as an administrative division like the United Kingdom with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland or the Kingdom of the Netherlands with Aruba, Curaçao and Sint Maarten all in the Caribbean or the Kingdom of Denmark etc.)
Was a League governed by the "Hegemon" (leader) and the "strategos autokrator" (in a military context), with a council (Synedrion), the judges (Dikastai) and with the delegates of the member-states (Synedroi) who were responsible for administering the common affairs of the League. They were summoned and presided over by a committee of presiding officers (Proedroi), chosen by lot in time of peace, and by the Hegemon in time of war. All that under the Treaty of the Common Peace (like a modern costitution)
Here you find some sousces of what it was:
Diodorus, Book 17.3[9] when Alexander the great become strategos autokrator of all Greeks with a resolution
"..Then he called a meeting at Corinth of envoys and delegates, and when the usual representatives came, he spoke to them in moderate terms and had them pass a resolution appointing him general plenipotentiary of the Greeks and undertaking themselves to join in an expedition against Persia seeking satisfaction for the offences which the Persians had committed against Greece.11 Successful in this, the king returned to Macedonia with his army..."
Plutarch, Alexander [14.1]
Diodorus Siculus, Book 16, 89.[3]
etc.
@@yprussThis is the proof of… well, nothing!
To explain to you what you just wrote:
you wrote about how a conglomerate of ruling entities, inside a CIVILIZATION, ruled their city-states under one Ruler for a brief time. You didn't defend how it was a nation-state. You just talked about a dynamic, not about the continuous existence of one nation-state.
First: You need to know what a nation-state is, and what criteria it needs to be fulfilled.
Second: You need to understand the difference between a nation-state and a Civilization
Third: If one day, for some miraculous reason, you prove that Greece is the oldest continuous nation-state in Europe, then you have to do it with a paper and have it peer-reviewed in the academy because at this point you are not arguing with me but with academics, because no one defends it.
Ancient Greece consisted of a collection of city-states (Poleis: such as Athens, Sparta, Corinth, and Thebes) with independent governments, even during the rule of Alexander (more like the Iberian Union). Alexander the Great temporarily unified several Greek city-states under his rule, mainly through the League of Corinth (a military alliance). The Political unity (different from the military alliance) was superficial and temporary, without a unified and continuous central administration. After Alexander's death, his empire was divided among his generals (the Diadochis), leading to the fragmentation of the political unity he had established which did not form a unified and continuous nation-state. The modern concept of a Greek nation-state emerged only in the 19th century, with the Greek War of Independence (1821-1829) against the Ottoman Empire, resulting in the creation of the Kingdom of Greece in 1830.
Portugal, on the other hand, has a linear political continuity as a nation-state. The founding of the Kingdom of Portugal is traditionally dated to 1139 when Afonso Henriques proclaimed himself king after the Battle of Ourique. This event was formalized in 1143 with the Treaty of Zamora, and independence was recognized by the Pope in 1179 with the manifestis probatum.
If you told me that Greece is one of the oldest and most influential CIVILIZATIONS in the World, I would agree, but not the oldest nation-state in Europe.
To shorten your search, if you don't want scientific articles:
Go to the European Commission website and see what they write about Portugal.
Fortunately with Brexit , Britain has full sovereignty . Unfortunately Portugal has virtually lost its´sovereignty.
What rubbish
@@anthonytabor4044Why ? You didn´t give me an argument
Oh yes - that full sovereignty has brought so many benefits. Whoopee!
@@kevinbath7625 I ´d rather be in Britain ´s position than in Portugal´s position ! In the long term it will much better for Britain. Unfotunately it not be for my country Portugal .
@@western1010 genuinely interested in your position here and thoughts around why you think Britain will be in a better position than Portugal. I'm tempted by a move (either whole or partly) away from Britain to Portugal.
I don’t agree with much here, this guy does not know much about Portugal. Lived here 16 years, I have a better reality.
Never call a Portuguese restaurant lousy, your just ordering poorly…
I am Portuguese and 100% agree with everything in this video.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Portugal is FULL of bad restaurants, with bad service, bad food and high prices.
There are of course exceptions, and that's why i usually go to the same restaurants. Why should i pay a lot for a bad meal if i can do exactly the opposite?
Worse cod I ever had was in Portugal. Norway must be laughing to the bank for years. Fresh cod is the way to go. Salted ruins the cod. Sorry but true.
Depends how it's prepared, some restaurants just leave it in water for a day, tastes like the bloody dead sea
The salt "cooks" the cod. It gives it a specific consistency. For the portuguese tradicional dishes this is essential.
Of course, they may not be to your taste and that is fine (more left for us).
Cod is rarely found fresh in Portugal as it does not exist in our waters we do not miss it, and might even find it a bit of a waste if not salted and cooked our way.
There are plenty of other species of fish we will only have fresh and some (few) species we will also eat from frozen
By the way...there are very few nations in the world that can teach us anything on eating fish.
😂
It's a matter of taste, any Portuguese would probably hate the cod you like.
@@Quidproquo1143 Precisely. Spot on comment.
Another great video Dave. Congratulations!!!