In this game their impact was almost nothing. I've played a LOT of nurgle games and I've never had a game where I roll so few disease points. I think I did maybe 3 mortals the whole game from disease, maybe 4. It was actually a bit comical.
Hello, I have a question, I am new to this, and I am putting together Nurgle's list by copying yours to learn. and I don't see how to mix factions. I mean, you have 3 Plaguecraws from the Skeven faction, and I wouldn't be understanding how to do it from the "Roster Editor BattleScrib". Who could enlighten me? Thank you!
Sry - maybe a stupid question from me - but how can this be a 2000 pont game, when "Morathi", "The Shadow Queen" and 15 "Blood Stalkers" have a point cost from 1940 (700/700/540) points - and there are some more units in it. What am.i missing? 😅🤔
Bear in mind the catapults are only 375pts. I probably won't run all 3 very often but my thoughts on them is they are well worth 125pts each, even if they don't do a ton of damage because your opponent is terrified of them. There aren't many situations like this where your opponent's main threat can sit outside their range so effectively. It isn't a huge investment and their potential for damage is really high so I don't feel they are a gamble per se. The main challenge here is that Nurgle lacks tools to express threat onto a unit of 15 bow snakes its open season on your army. I don't think any Nurgle build can handle that situation well due to lack of mobility. Also, I've had those old Hellcannons for like 20 years and finally have a use for them so #ruleofcool wins. :)
Fair points!! Just saying that relying on cannons + horrorghast combo didn’t seem too reliable. It was cool to see though and as you say those cannons are cool enough to see the battlefield. Thank you for the report and I hope you get luckier dice rolls next time :-)
Have i missed something. If the GUO done 4 mortals to the shadow queen with loathsome flesh, isnt that over the max damage she can take? Why aplit attacks into her?
Its a flaw in the writing of the rule for plague of misery making it a lot less powerful than it otherwise could/should be. It specifically only applies to "heroes", which means unit champions can issue commands as normal. Because of this in 95% of cases Plague of Misery is irrelevant. I'm personally convinced that whoever wrote that rule forgot that almost every unit in the game has a unit champion that can issue the command instead.
@@hestia8790 Yeah, just is what it is, hopefully something that gets fixed next time Nurgle gets a new book. Its not 100% useless as it still stops the 4+ rally command which has to come from the snake hero and does deny two heroic actions but overall much like most of the wheel it doesn't impact the game very much.
Why didn't you just play the last round instead of talking it through? There's always so much that can happen in AOS, so I think possibly and perhaps is rather boring to watch.
Honestly, its always a tough decision on when to call the game. In this case, it was mathematically impossible for me to recover the deficit even if a miracle happened so we generally don't feel it is worth playing out the rest of the game at that point. We would rather use the extra time it takes to film/edit a longer video and invest that in future videos or build more armies rather than redundantly recording and editing a foregone conclusion.
Know it’s a tiny thing. But “opponents can’t make inspiring preseance” followed immediately by “the blood sisters use inspiring presence” is really annoying.
Your reports are the reason why i get up from bed every tuesday!!!!! Thank you!!
Can't you watch in bed?
no, i fall asleep if i stay in bed😔🥱@@Hannibal9423
i guess after 2 elite armys fighting each other we got to have 2 huge hordes facing off in the next game
Nice battle report. When can we see the beasts of chaos again?
Catapults can shoot through zephyr, they dont need line of sight.
I was just about to say the same, they ignore visibility.
This would have changed things big time..!
hey guys, wonderfull work as always but I would ask if it's possible to have a better view on nurgle disease points and impact maybe?
In this game their impact was almost nothing. I've played a LOT of nurgle games and I've never had a game where I roll so few disease points. I think I did maybe 3 mortals the whole game from disease, maybe 4. It was actually a bit comical.
@@ryancooper3629 ouch thats rude, i am a nurgle player as well and i was hoping that at least rotmire had done some work on disease
@@kharryg6955 Yeah both times they shot I didn't roll a single 6.
Hello, I have a question, I am new to this, and I am putting together Nurgle's list by copying yours to learn. and I don't see how to mix factions. I mean, you have 3 Plaguecraws from the Skeven faction, and I wouldn't be understanding how to do it from the "Roster Editor BattleScrib". Who could enlighten me? Thank you!
Plagueclaws don't need visibility FYI
Yep - we hadn't thought about not being affected by the storm, but they *might have* been able to get some shots off turn 1!
Oops, this one is on me, I thought the mission rule prohibited targeting outside of that range, didn't realize it was merely a visibility limitation.
I love the plague claw catapults
Are the two orange leaf trees, Feculent Gnarlmaws?
Yes, When I built the army Gnarlmaws had been sold out with GW for close to a year with no end in sight so I ended up doing custom ones.
Sry - maybe a stupid question from me - but how can this be a 2000 pont game, when "Morathi", "The Shadow Queen" and 15 "Blood Stalkers" have a point cost from 1940 (700/700/540) points - and there are some more units in it.
What am.i missing? 😅🤔
Morathi and the Shadow Queen are taken together as one selection for a combined 700 points - this is just how Lists format it
@@SeasonofWar thank you very much for this answer
Greetings from germany 😃
Can morathi really use heroic recovery?
Correct me if I’m wrong but you shouldn’t have been able inspiring presence on your bow snakes on turn 2 because of the cycle of corruption.
The Cycle only stops heroes from using Inspiring Presence, unit champions still can.
That’s a GREAT unclean one
Daughters used Cruel Delight as Battle tactic on Turn 1 and Turn 3?
Jordan said it was cruel delight and the editor didnt pick up that its not called that.
He did the 3 units charge which is Clash of Arms.
Wait a sec, why was morathi trying to use heroic recovery, thats a no no
To get rid of Nurgle's disease on her - not to heal
why would it have been a no no?
@@Kinhussar morathi cant heal her wounds
Although it’s a cool list from nurgle it’s too much of a gamble. Didn’t pay off this time. Great match anyways. Thank you guys
Bear in mind the catapults are only 375pts. I probably won't run all 3 very often but my thoughts on them is they are well worth 125pts each, even if they don't do a ton of damage because your opponent is terrified of them. There aren't many situations like this where your opponent's main threat can sit outside their range so effectively.
It isn't a huge investment and their potential for damage is really high so I don't feel they are a gamble per se. The main challenge here is that Nurgle lacks tools to express threat onto a unit of 15 bow snakes its open season on your army. I don't think any Nurgle build can handle that situation well due to lack of mobility.
Also, I've had those old Hellcannons for like 20 years and finally have a use for them so #ruleofcool wins. :)
Fair points!! Just saying that relying on cannons + horrorghast combo didn’t seem too reliable. It was cool to see though and as you say those cannons are cool enough to see the battlefield. Thank you for the report and I hope you get luckier dice rolls next time :-)
why do their units look so different from the ones you can buy?
Why did you not just play round 5?😅
Congratz for your 5-0 Jordan!! 😃
That was painful to watch. Poor Ryan.
Great game!
Nurgle!!!
Have i missed something. If the GUO done 4 mortals to the shadow queen with loathsome flesh, isnt that over the max damage she can take? Why aplit attacks into her?
I put Loathsome flesh into the spear snakes, not Morathi.
I think there was a mistake turn 3
Plague of Misery shouldn't allow inspiring presence on the bow snakes right.
Its a flaw in the writing of the rule for plague of misery making it a lot less powerful than it otherwise could/should be. It specifically only applies to "heroes", which means unit champions can issue commands as normal. Because of this in 95% of cases Plague of Misery is irrelevant. I'm personally convinced that whoever wrote that rule forgot that almost every unit in the game has a unit champion that can issue the command instead.
@@ryancooper3629 oh that is indeed quite sad for the nurgle boys.
But also answers my question why the graveshrieker was dispelled that turn.
@@hestia8790 Yeah, just is what it is, hopefully something that gets fixed next time Nurgle gets a new book. Its not 100% useless as it still stops the 4+ rally command which has to come from the snake hero and does deny two heroic actions but overall much like most of the wheel it doesn't impact the game very much.
Why didn't you just play the last round instead of talking it through? There's always so much that can happen in AOS, so I think possibly and perhaps is rather boring to watch.
I also wish the games went to completion but if Jordan says there isn't a reason to play it out I believe him
Of course, not every game has to be played to the end, but I found this one really exciting until the last round.
Honestly, its always a tough decision on when to call the game. In this case, it was mathematically impossible for me to recover the deficit even if a miracle happened so we generally don't feel it is worth playing out the rest of the game at that point. We would rather use the extra time it takes to film/edit a longer video and invest that in future videos or build more armies rather than redundantly recording and editing a foregone conclusion.
Know it’s a tiny thing. But “opponents can’t make inspiring preseance” followed immediately by “the blood sisters use inspiring presence” is really annoying.
The rule says that heroes can't issue inspiring presence, units are still allowed to - so we did it 100% correctly.
Boo Daughters Boooooo
Please stop playing Plagueclaw Catapults. Please.
Why?
because you're telling everyone about our secret tech! @@ryancooper3629
not sure what your problem is. They are cost efficient and the combo with horrorghast is a cool idea