He's nasty for sleeping with her and her mom at the same time, the daughter is nasty for sleeping with him and another man at the same time, and the mom is nasty for staying with him after all this.
@@rudyniosho2505 Exactly. hes a reject in the Black community cause Black women won't accept this behavior from him so he sought out a white woman who would never leave no matter what he did, thats what a lot of Black men that date white women want is a doormat. Now she wants them to go to counseling as a family.
This is disgusting. He’s a predator. And I’m side eyeing the mom too. Because what kind of mother would stay with a man who repeatedly slept with her daughter… that he supposedly helped raise?! In what world is that ok?!
she needs to give him the boot that man is not how a real man behaves she needs to be by herself for awhile to love herself. The relationship should have been over as soon as she found out about him and her daughter. I am not sure how she didn't throw up hearing about it
I know right? This is so hawt, we need to give this man a medal. I had a mother and daughter too one time but not at the same time. It became a problem because the mother was my mothers best friend.
I can agree to this to a certain extent… her mother failed her by not getting that man out of her house when she had the suspicion. But she failed herself most of all. Sad case
I’m sorry if you helped RAISE a child and then sleep with them when they’re an adult you should be charged with something. That is grooming and sick af.
I couldn't agree more!! The thought of me sleeping with my ex-husband's son, from his first marriage, who was almost 3yr old when I started raising him (now 30) is 🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮
Yup that’s what I was thinking she looked terrified he is a monster they’re all better off without him he meant to do that he groomed her I feel bad she only said no after he did
So true, he destroyed her. Probably he put the food on table. She doesnt think she can exist without him... He is a predator, he doesnt care about them. But people are free
I really thought she was older than me and I am 51. But then I heard the daughter say that she had a baby sister that was I think was 15 months. So I realized that she was way younger than Mr. SMH just wow
I was just going to say this. I don’t believe their story of how it started. I feel like he initiated something long long before that and raised her to think it was ok or at least ok to lie about it
Usman Chaudhary I totally agree! This needs to be in criminal court right after they go to the Steve Wilkos show so he can call him out and throw a chair at him. Disgusting human being 🤮
😷 so nasty needed a mask😭 girl I have a step father..my kids have a step father. IMA BE IN JAIL!! LORDY! THE DEVIL RAMPANT. I HAVE NEVER thought like this with my DAD! HE RAISED ME SINCE I WAS 2 MONTHS OLD.
I think it might be a matter of what the mother thinks her value is. At her age, she’s not as young or attractive as she might have been when she was in her 20’s. I feel like she’s clinging on to this man because she doesn’t want to be alone, especially with a baby. Dating when you’re older can be incredibly tough and lonely at times.
She has low self esteem, she has given him 20 years of her life. And she really doesn't know how else to live it apart from that sicko or her daughter being part of it. This is as low a human soul can be at, that it doesn't think it deserves better.
@@jefferyhasimani4816 Also if she leaves the daughter will live with him and she will be all alone and broken. She cant even enjoy her babies first years.
Yes, he should be in prison. But why are so many people neglecting to mention that the mother should be in prison, as well? Child endangerment, child neglect, child abuse- over so many years. Those are crimes. She was not being held against her will or beaten. She is just as guilty as he is. Being a woman or a mother does not absolve her. They are both guilty.
As long as momma got a man that’s keeping her warm even though she has to share him with her own daughter she still rather be in a filthy mess than go back to being alone. 😆 SMH
its not disgusting to mess with the mother and the daughter. as long as they are at separate times. the true nasty person is the daughter that knew he was messing with her mother and she still slept with him. now thats nasty. but what am i talking about she just an innocent girl that was manipulated and has no freewill of her own lol
This guy has been grooming her since she was a child I'm sure. Even though she's an adult now, doesn't mean that she isn't a victim of childhood abuse from him. This is absurd
Yes he groomed her, and with her Mom's very low self esteem baby girl did not stand a chance. This has to be one of the saddest and vile episodes on the show. 🥺😥 Karma will prevail with him.
This guy needs to be punished by law. He looks so all together and calm, but basically, he's a criminal. A dangerous kind. No wonder they say you can't judge a book by it's cover. So sad 😢
nadine I said the same thing! He didn’t have to throw that in there, anybody else would’ve kept that part to themself because it makes them look even worse.
Looking at the daughter, you can tell this has been going on for YEARS AND YEARS. You couldn't convince me that this poor excuse of a "man" wasn't grooming this poor girl for most of her life.
@森林雪 just because she wasn't afraid of him don't mean he didn't abuse he when she was young. It's different for everyone. I know I was abused in everyway from 3 to 14
森林雪 groomed children usually consent to the acts because they are groomed to think its okay and that it’s what they want when it’s not. So no you cannot say she truly consented
Again you all are accusing him of a serious crime with no evidence whatsoever.. thats what he was trying to say when he wrote that comment.. people who think like yall, are a danger to society.
Exactly. This man is still confident in his skin. There must be a manipulation going. He must be a predator and both of the girls are victims. I hope they will investigate the case more
There is so much behind this story. The daughter's been groomed by this man. The mother is so desperate she is putting this despicable man before her child. I feel for the children caught in the middle of this dysfunction. 😐
I kinda had the same feeling the whole time. I would believe her if she would say that she never really wanted to or if he prrssured her. But its for sure that the groomed her into it
Yea and it's like he controls the daughter. I'm pretty sure she only said no to the lie detector because he did first. The next statement she made after that was basically what he said.
She's only 20 and he raised her like his OWN.... and then turn around and took advantage of her... he knew better.....So...she's like a daughter and then after she gets grown..... you sleep with her...? Naw.... buddy.... I think it was some other things going on before then smh.. Bless her heart...she's young and doesn't know she's been groomed.... she thought he really loved and cared for her.... She thought she was better than her mother.... Wew...Chile...I need to DRINK...
WAIT...the mother asked for counseling...there is NO AMOUNT of counseling that can repair the damage done after your boyfriend sleeps with your 20 year old daughter...he should've been GONE!!! LowDOWN DIRTY, NASTY a*** MESS!! Everybody is SICK!!!
The saddest I feel is for the mother. She must be suffering from a total lack of self esteem to still be willing to attend counselling and working on this messed up relationship. On top of that, her romantic relationship is ruined, her relationship with her daughter is ruined. It's just so messed up am appalled.
Don't make fun of her, if you might been with such guy would look in that way also! lf a woman have problems and don't take care of her face etc would look like order, she's 39 but she's large and look tiered mentally and physically! God forgive and make it easier for everyone *God* bless you 🙏
Grooming....thats abuse. Everybody needs to be seperated from the situation. Go their seperate ways. Get counseling, find Jesus, find healthy relationships.
@@lil_weasel219 I need that believe I need my church my community and I'm so grateful for that because not everyone got something to believe in.I don't mean spiritual.I mean smth to hold on to when life is taking the ground under ur feet
@@angelinap.7207 wanting to believe reveals the very reason people follow such a rotten system; emotional vulnerability. In science there is no blind belief, only proof.
@@lil_weasel219 That is your opinion... Religious people have their own proofs that you cannot understand. That's what faight is about! People are allowed to believe in anything they want! 🙂
Sickco! He finally got what he been waiting on for years. They not gonna stop sleeping together. They want each other bad but want the mother to except it so they can move about freely
I wish they would have taken a lie detector. When the Judge/magistrate said “there’s more to this story” I felt that. There is a possibility that he had been intimate with her when she was a minor.
It most always.. is that way. The majority of times. These men, will serve themselves off the lover's dtrs since they are children. All these women, taking in these men. Need to be aware, that this will be a strong possibility. They get free access to the children because they feel they have rights since they have used goods and a new one at their disposal.
She has a big loving heart, but this case broke a volcano of shocking emotions in all of us. I really respect judge Lauren Lake for staying pulled together in these cases. I look up to her, because my reaction was like the audience reaction.
Not just that but this kind of situation is how child abuse happens, she allowed this man to live under the same roof as her daughter and after the evidence she saw the fact that he wasn't kicked out shows she put her relationship before her daughter's wellbeing from the beginning
This man is truly disturbed. Keep the kids away from him. The mom is tolerating him seducing her daughter. This guy definitely is creepy. The whole situation is creepy.
This honestly is the most disgusting episode I've ever seen. Shameless. And the fact that there is no indication of any remorse for the despicable behaviour blows my mind. They both refused to submit to the lie detector test, so clearly this nonsense is still going on!! They both don't care about this woman. This man says he helped raise this girl, just to turn around later and start engaging in such activities with her?? No ounce of decency from either one of them.
This was actually normal not that long ago internationally. It's still normal within many muslim countries and some cities in the USA. I find it disgusting, but I guess some people still find it OK.
I'm HIGHKEY disappointed that Judge Toler said nothing about this man essentially grooming this young woman. How could he have raised practically raised this little girl but nobody blinks an eye but to think it's weird but not predatory.
When the momma said she was with him for 20 years. I was like that’s even more worse, you knew your intent and helped raise this little girl. Disgusting.
This is absolutely shameful. Those kids have no hope for a normal life. That man doesn't deserve to be a father. I really hope they cut that man out of their life. He is a manipulative sociopath.
Can't no one tell me he wasn't carrying on a relationship with her when she was under age. That girl is holding back she just doesn't want her mom to know the full truth. This episode is making my stomach turn. She doesn't want to hurt her mother more than she already done. (Look at the daughters eyes) Molestation is a secret in that household.
How do you end up flirting with a woman you raised as your own daughter? How does that scenario even occur? Edit: People need to realise the daughter is not to blame here. That man obviously groomed her.
Gothic Grandma The mother is to blame, too!! Who even lets a man like that back into their house, let alone STAYS with him. Seriously disgusting on both parts, the mother and the pos guy
He's nasty for sleeping with her and her mom at the same time, the daughter is nasty for sleeping with him and another man at the same time, and the mom is nasty for staying with him after all this.
You hit all 3 nails on the head.......
Poor kids
Says a lot about the mom. Hes a pediphile.. He been dreaming about that girl. And the mom is desperate...🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮
So everyone nasty🤮🤮🤢
You NEVER lied!!!!
Why would you even stay with someone who was sleeping with your teenage daughter? A daughter that he helped raise and knew from birth.
Marley Mescudi Keep him away from that baby girl of his 😳🤦🏾♀️
he's deadass a predator
My thoughts exactly
Low self esteem becky> Lol!
@@rudyniosho2505 Exactly. hes a reject in the Black community cause Black women won't accept this behavior from him so he sought out a white woman who would never leave no matter what he did, thats what a lot of Black men that date white women want is a doormat. Now she wants them to go to counseling as a family.
"I helped raised her" my heart sank. Disgusting guy.
He can’t ever speak properly it’s raise her
YES
Total cringe moment 😬
The mother is just as disgusting
He didn't raise her he molded her
This is disgusting. He’s a predator. And I’m side eyeing the mom too. Because what kind of mother would stay with a man who repeatedly slept with her daughter… that he supposedly helped raise?! In what world is that ok?!
One who has no self esteem and let people walk all over her . Look at her . Looking a mf mess !
Yea I feel like he's been messing with her for awhile
@@EmpressChan77 Grooming, seems like
agree 100 percent ugh
@@clairedeluna3585fr
The mother needs to value herself more. After he slept with her daughter marriage should NOT be on the table.
Justin Peters and relationship should have been null and void!!!!
You are so right. He should be kicked swiftly to the kerb with no rebound.
The mother has low self esteem and is happy someone is in her bed.
@@coralscrafts7258 lol...curb...you are right though!
she needs to give him the boot that man is not how a real man behaves she needs to be by herself for awhile to love herself. The relationship should have been over as soon as she found out about him and her daughter. I am not sure how she didn't throw up hearing about it
I feel like we're really not stressing enough that he slept with someone who was basically his _daughter_
I can't believe I am going to say it but it is worst than Lolita.
Amen to that.. he was prepared for his chance
he changed her diapers he was around from when she was born.maybe a paternitytest between the two of them wouldnt be that weird
I know right? This is so hawt, we need to give this man a medal.
I had a mother and daughter too one time but not at the same time. It became a problem because the mother was my mothers best friend.
@@jamegumb7298 nothing wrong with doin a daughter and a mother unless you changed the daughters diaper since she was born id say :)
I think he was sleeping with her long before they were caught
I agree!
Takisha Tucker yes a lot more to this .. is why he refused lie detector without hesitation
Takisha Tucker 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Takisha Tucker yea!
Oh u already kno that they jus nasty
That girl absolutely wanted her step dad to be her baby daddy. He absolutely groomed her. Her mother failed her. It's nasty and tragic.
Wait how did her mom failed her?
@@arewanewztv765 are you joking?
yes
I can agree to this to a certain extent… her mother failed her by not getting that man out of her house when she had the suspicion. But she failed herself most of all. Sad case
@@arewanewztv765 absolutely she did
I’m sorry if you helped RAISE a child and then sleep with them when they’re an adult you should be charged with something. That is grooming and sick af.
Period
I couldn't agree more!! The thought of me sleeping with my ex-husband's son, from his first marriage, who was almost 3yr old when I started raising him (now 30) is 🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮
I agree with u
It's disturbing
Right theyre basically your child at that point
This is how many times the judge said
NASTY
⬇️
Hahaha
as she should
o
She was basically right, though
This is a really inappropriate situation.
Out of all the hundreds of episodes I have watched this is the most vile and disgusting
I agree 100%. Words cannot describe how shameful this is.
Can i tell you
Sandy Marcelo Yes exactly.
😂😂😂
Agree 💯
This man is sick. I hope he wasn’t inappropriate with her as a child but I won’t put it pass him. 😢😢😢
😮😮😮
and what about these two womens? they all freaking us out.
poor kids!!! only that two kids innocent, and need to be isolated!
Still gross she looked him up as a father. He helped raising her. How can someone be that sick
He deserves to go to jail and her mother needs psychological help
Exactly
Jail for what? It may be disgusting but it's not illegal.
Yup
Tomorrison28 it is actually a form of abuse, called grooming.
Nashwo Dirie no not unless he actually groomed her. Them sleeping together while it may be gross it’s not illegal.
If he knew her since she was a baby/raised her, that is called grooming. It is a form of abuse.
Yea and u cant tell me he hadnt being messing with her when she was a kid
Fuzzy 1983 exactly, you can see it in her eyes.
IT'S A DISGRACE BEFORE GOD 😔
Yup that’s what I was thinking she looked terrified he is a monster they’re all better off without him he meant to do that he groomed her I feel bad she only said no after he did
I almost said the same thing
This is off-topic, but I cannot believe that the mom is 39!
She looks _at least_ 55 years old.
Tota Lee agree
They been stressing her out shoot
Almost every episode, has a mother or Grandmother that is 39, but looks in her mid 50's.
Tota Lee the daughter don’t look 20 neither
lol looks like 60 to me
There's no way the mom is 39 years old, she looks way older, this whole relationship took a toll on this woman, body mind and soul..
So true, he destroyed her.
Probably he put the food on table. She doesnt think she can exist without him...
He is a predator, he doesnt care about them.
But people are free
The entire family looks 10 years older than they are.
I believe that she is 39 yrs old otherwise she wouldn't give a birth if she were 50. Sometimes; problems and hard times age us
I really thought she was older than me and I am 51. But then I heard the daughter say that she had a baby sister that was I think was 15 months. So I realized that she was way younger than Mr. SMH just wow
She died right after the show.
This is the most disgusting episode. This man should be in jail.
For what? She sent the text and agreed to meet him
Gracie Perkins periodtttt
They all need to be!
This definitely needs to be investigated
@森林雪 Spitting factz bruda 🤟🕊️
The mother looks really really old can't believe she is only 39 she is stress
The man is realy siphoning her not only financially but physically (s**ly) and emotionally. He's a thief.
THOUGHT SHE SAID SHE WAS 20
@@naegillespie5267 I think he means the mother.
Please... that just an average aging white woman in America. 👩👱♀️👩🦰👩🦳
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@WaterFlame957 what part of america do women age like that?
I’m willing to bet they didn’t want to take a lie detector test because it’s been going on since she was a kid. And this is disgusting.
Yep
Your profile pic is my reaction reading this and thinking about it . Good God ! I just don't understand why the mother stayyyed with him X/
I put my money on that or either they still sleeping together
Her daughter is disgusting. And in her own house.
@@jimmypatterson8404 correction he is disgusting
What a nasty man! my gut instinct is telling me he's been interfering with that girl before she was of legal age!
I was just going to say this. I don’t believe their story of how it started. I feel like he initiated something long long before that and raised her to think it was ok or at least ok to lie about it
The mom deserve better to be far from that man and so say daughter - shame on them
Yep yep yep very true shame shame shame no honesty at all don't trust people they are all liers sad but the truth truthhhhhhh truthhhhhhh
Yup
That mother who has a child with that man needs to leave and not let him have access to her. Who knows how that baby will turn out.
There’s no way there’s not some grooming here. That relationship can’t be as sudden as he says.
Completely agree
100%
oh no, he definitely raised her so he could use her,
He has probably been messing with her since she was little.
started when he raised her and it’s been normalized into that poor girls mind
They better watch him around that new baby girl ijs.
J. E. So true
I agree !
RIGHT?
J. E. 😆
yup
I think...we are ALL gonna need counselling after this nasty and deeply disturbing episode. >
Niki N The color of his skin is completely irrelevant, but yes he is as nasty as it gets. I’d keep him away from children.
@@122hsrfe there is great black men out there trust me, this monster has nothing to do with them
@@122hsrfe dam, not all black men.Thats him not me🤦♂️
Niki N you can’t blame all black men cause of this sicko
Geesh...yes..pls sign me up... I feel mentally and physically sick
The mother is just as disgusting for still having this predator around her and her child. She needs a psych evaluation
This case is clearly in the wrong court
Usman Chaudhary I totally agree! This needs to be in criminal court right after they go to the Steve Wilkos show so he can call him out and throw a chair at him. Disgusting human being 🤮
PERIOD 💯
I agree!!! I got questions. A few of them.🤦🏽
Your right but he done catched a case🧐
@@adutmabior1510 correct ,he should be in jail
He needs to be in jail i believe he been messing with her as a child
@Marie Alphonse Not saying she's innocent but I find it extremely suspicious that a man would be comfortable sleeping with someone he raised...
Tiara Taylor i feel like he was kinda grooming her as she was growing up, so she got this sorta attraction towards him. disgusting either way
10000000precent i guess too
You can believe whatever, but a man is innocent until proven guilty... If it doesn't fit you must acquit
“Now this just keeps getting nastier.” My mood the ENTIRE VIDEO
Same, geez!
When he said he helped raise her I bout🤮. I want to personally shoot this man in his face
The whole video I was CRINGING!!! This is soooooo nastyyyy🤮
Right!
😷 so nasty needed a mask😭 girl I have a step father..my kids have a step father. IMA BE IN JAIL!! LORDY! THE DEVIL RAMPANT. I HAVE NEVER thought like this with my DAD! HE RAISED ME SINCE I WAS 2 MONTHS OLD.
"I do think we all need counseling." Yes, you do need counseling but more importantly, you need to kick boyfriend to the curb.
for realll how has she not done that already he's basically grooming her child
I think it might be a matter of what the mother thinks her value is. At her age, she’s not as young or attractive as she might have been when she was in her 20’s. I feel like she’s clinging on to this man because she doesn’t want to be alone, especially with a baby. Dating when you’re older can be incredibly tough and lonely at times.
@@k.marcie Still, you don't throw your daughter to a wolf so you can keep a warm bed for yourself.
How you raise a child, then sleep with her? Very disturbing 😣
My thoughts exactly
Right!
well you know he raised her for that very moment
Sick af
U said it better
I MIGHT NEED A COUNSELING AFTER WATCHING THIS DISGUSTING 🤢 EPISODE!
Lovely Mimiosa agreed me too! 🤮🤮🤮
Jesus me to
Lol i no thats right😁😁😁
You are do right
Lol that's true
Somebody explain to me why he’s still her mother’s boyfriend?🧐
She has low self esteem, she has given him 20 years of her life. And she really doesn't know how else to live it apart from that sicko or her daughter being part of it. This is as low a human soul can be at, that it doesn't think it deserves better.
Abuse/Stockholm’s Syndrome. He’s probably been abusing both her and the daughter all 20 years
It'ss a white family thing dw about it😂 not to be racist
@@jefferyhasimani4816 Also if she leaves the daughter will live with him and she will be all alone and broken. She cant even enjoy her babies first years.
@@loranaSays what is dw? I'm trying to understand your comment. This is one sick mess, regardless of color.
I feel like mom has no self esteem she must think she can't do better😩😩😩
I thought the same poor lady needs to kick them both out
It’s cause she can’t. Not a single man unless he’s down bad will go for that, he’s one of the few
@@freshgams427 my boy speaking nothing but facts😂
@@freshgams427 That's not funny bro
Really immature
She is prepared to sacrifice her daughter's well-being so she doesn't have to be alone. That is the antithesis of motherhood.
This started a LONG time ago... he should be in prison!
Emma Stephenson exactly I’m happy someone said it
I agree I said the same thing 3 minutes into this episode
@Akash Guha Thakurata Because she was a child when he probably started doing stuff to her.
Wait, how long have they been like that?
Yes, he should be in prison. But why are so many people neglecting to mention that the mother should be in prison, as well? Child endangerment, child neglect, child abuse- over so many years. Those are crimes. She was not being held against her will or beaten. She is just as guilty as he is. Being a woman or a mother does not absolve her. They are both guilty.
The mother is the sickest for allowing this, just to have "man".
thats what happens when you don't love yourself. you are selfish and needy.
me mee meee low self esteem
he's not just a man though...he's her child's father
...He's not a real man!
And she's taking care of him, he probably does nothing for her while "doing" her daughter!! Shameful and a disgrace!
I'm guessing he was abusing her before she turned 18, that didn't just happen one day out of nowhere.
@宇宙不思議な she lied about when she last slept with him - why not lie about the other?
I agree
He groomed her into giving certain answers and not taking the lie detector...
He definitely groomed her
Aagggghh
He’s known her since she was a kid. You can’t tell me this started after she was an adult.
When the judge said “ I’m not sure what normal is for you but okay “ I hollered.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 hes bum
Fr fr brooooo 🤣🤣👉
@@jesusisgod4638 😆😆
I laughed 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
!!!a!
The audience was doing a great job here. Every reaction, every gasp, spot on. 😂😂😂
😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Perioooooddd!!!!
Because they are paid audience. They are doing their job.
😂😂
Like a fake audience😂
They refused to take lie detector test because they knew that they still sleeping together
Right
🥺🙈💔
He went after her and he knew that was his girls daughter . He’s a predator simple
He was grooming her from a child’s age... the mother knew it and allowed it due to low self esteem
Exactly!
As long as momma got a man that’s keeping her warm even though she has to share him with her own daughter she still rather be in a filthy mess than go back to being alone. 😆 SMH
Yes!!
I agree with u..this is so gross n sick to me😞
I concur
He’s manipulating the both of them. This is so sick. The fact that she’s still dating him.
The mom wants him more than what she wants for her daughter. She is making a choice.
@@I2AmUS they both made a choice, but apparently, he is the one calling all the shots.
I can believe people are literally blaming the daughter in the situation. She was obviously groomed by him.
He probably abused her as a child
Maan, even I need counseling after this 🤦🏾♀️
😂 😂🤣🤣🤣
Lol right
Lol right
So do I 🤦🏾♀️ or that flashy thing from MIB to erase this from my memory🤷🏽♀️.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
TONIE Joellen 😂😂
That mama sitting up there aging like bread cause she watched her man groom her daughter. Sick!!
Not only did she watched,she let it happen🤮
The daughter should be ashamed of herself
He is disgusting! He took advantage of that low self-esteemed single mother, just to get to the daughter
agree
Some seriously scandalous stuff.
This man is proud of sleeping with both mother and daughter. He smirked when the judge expressed disgust. This is a evil individual.
He has VERY low morals, but he knows who he's dealing with, in terms of the mother.
Which one right? 😁
its not disgusting to mess with the mother and the daughter. as long as they are at separate times. the true nasty person is the daughter that knew he was messing with her mother and she still slept with him. now thats nasty. but what am i talking about she just an innocent girl that was manipulated and has no freewill of her own lol
He needs Jesus.
Lord Timothy I agree that ppl are coming for him and forgetting about her. She is not a minor, she knows what she did/is still doing.
Leslie Sinclair absolute evil 😈
He should definitely be charged and sent to jail
This guy has been grooming her since she was a child I'm sure. Even though she's an adult now, doesn't mean that she isn't a victim of childhood abuse from him. This is absurd
Emotionally, her brain is not yet fully developed...given this man was/is her father figure... she IS a child
@@katsgiers7946 yep 💯
Yes he groomed her, and with her Mom's very low self esteem baby girl did not stand a chance. This has to be one of the saddest and vile episodes on the show. 🥺😥 Karma will prevail with him.
Mom is to blame
@@200pumpedddfacts 💯. As parents it's our job to protect our children. Mom clearly failed her.
I had to pause and walk around my house a couple times.
OK this is the best comment finally, here take my like =)
😂🤣😂🤣
Lool me!
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Same. I was so heated.
He looked at the judge as if he wanted to hurt her for exposing his true nature like no one's ever done before.
True
You notice that glare too
U look like u was on this show before
@@may__dixierekt9722 😂😂😂
Didn't he though
This guy needs to be punished by law. He looks so all together and calm, but basically, he's a criminal. A dangerous kind. No wonder they say you can't judge a book by it's cover. So sad 😢
His eyes say it all. He so clearly has no remorse.
The mother definitely has a low self-esteem to stay with this man. She appears to be a broken woman.
Shes 39 here!!
@@Totalchaos0228 crazy!
@@Totalchaos0228 😂😂😂😂
This was who I felt for
Blaming her for wearing tight clothes and a short skirt. Creep-it's your responsibility to control yourself. She can wear whatever she wants.
And he's been in her life mainly as her darn DADDY!!!! This is so disturbing!
She's a big girl! Everything is tight on her. That's just an excuse.
She would not have worn it if she didn't want it. She is not innocent
Danielisreal77 Gardener if you dont wanna get shot, then dont live to begin with. Thats what you sound like.
@@stephaniemurria5534
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As much as the audience has been annoying me as of late, they accurately expressed my emotions for this one
yankeetrini right 😂
I give them a pass this time
Yes cuz even I couldn’t be quiet in court listening to this foolishness
No. They were xtra on the sauce
yankeetrini my feelings as well. I couldn’t blame them today!
He has no shame either..why did he even bother to say "I helped raise her" no shame whatsoever
He’s so proud of his grooming😷😷
“You knew her when she was a baby”
“I helped raise her”🤮🤮
Yeah he only had to agree with the judge like just say "yes"... no he went for it "I helped raise her" lord
EXACTLY!!!! 😖
A whole new level of 'nasty'!!! >:(
Absolutely disgusting..... So much so, that u would think they actually intended on the disgusting factor to be way up there ALL OF THEM
nadine I said the same thing! He didn’t have to throw that in there, anybody else would’ve kept that part to themself because it makes them look even worse.
My step dad raised me from the age of 2. I'm now 29. I see him as my father. I can not fathom the thinking between these two. It's so gross.
I was thinking the same thing. Not in a million years.
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same. my step dad has been in my life since I was 11 months old. my brain won't even let me go there
My stepdad raised me at 5 and I’m 25 now and I see him as my dad. That man was grooming her.
@@magicaladventureswithaliyah always d man fault
Looking at the daughter, you can tell this has been going on for YEARS AND YEARS. You couldn't convince me that this poor excuse of a "man" wasn't grooming this poor girl for most of her life.
What are your qualifications? How do you know how a sexually abused person is supposed to act🤷🏽♀️...
@森林雪 just because she wasn't afraid of him don't mean he didn't abuse he when she was young. It's different for everyone. I know I was abused in everyway from 3 to 14
森林雪 groomed children usually consent to the acts because they are groomed to think its okay and that it’s what they want when it’s not. So no you cannot say she truly consented
Again you all are accusing him of a serious crime with no evidence whatsoever.. thats what he was trying to say when he wrote that comment.. people who think like yall, are a danger to society.
One Punch i agree but we also cant say the contrary
The mother needs to get away from both of them!
Yea he is a predator he slept with her from young age , that doesn’t just happen .
Exactly, he should have been dump into a sh!t covered jail cell as soon as he stepped of the plane🛬
smh 🤮👨🏽✈️🕵🏾♀️👮🏼♀️👮♂️
Yes it does, all the time
It's clear
Aagghh
This is by far the SCARIEST episode of paternity court I've ever seen. I'm shaking as I type this
Seriously..omg😔😳🤮
To me it’s more vile and maddening than anything.
@@feliciabanks2586 Sensitive peoples have problems !
I agree.
Exactly. This man is still confident in his skin. There must be a manipulation going. He must be a predator and both of the girls are victims. I hope they will investigate the case more
There is so much behind this story. The daughter's been groomed by this man. The mother is so desperate she is putting this despicable man before her child. I feel for the children caught in the middle of this dysfunction. 😐
Exactly
I kinda had the same feeling the whole time. I would believe her if she would say that she never really wanted to or if he prrssured her. But its for sure that the groomed her into it
Naturally Real yeah they daughter looked real dead behind the eyes. Like she had been abused continually.
Yea and it's like he controls the daughter. I'm pretty sure she only said no to the lie detector because he did first. The next statement she made after that was basically what he said.
Jill Morrow but it wasn’t just a phone call in the video the dude said that he helped raise her
I can't believe the Mom wants to stay with the creep.
The mother. Of the girl. Is void of feeling......years of abuse
To be honest I'm pretty sure he groomed the daughter you cant just raise someone and then once theyre legal you flip a switch nah that can't happen.
Anything is possible with human beings
CPS need to investigate this.
Mom DEAREST and this DIRTY MUTT
Unfortunately it’s past the statue of limitation and there’s no way to prove when it started she’s an adult, this is just sick
She grown now smh
He probably was messing with her when she was a lil girl and they both Keeping a Secret..
Yeah he needs to be kicked out and supervised visitation!!!
This is AWFUL. but the audience had me dying
Serenitie3 yes the audience had me in tears
Serenitie3lmao right
Serenitie3 I know!😂
This has got to be the nastiest conversation that I've ever heard. Smh
He been messing with that girl way before now,and the mom knows it. Very disturbing
Right thats sick just nassssty
She's only 20 and he raised her like his OWN.... and then turn around and took advantage of her... he knew better.....So...she's like a daughter and then after she gets grown..... you sleep with her...?
Naw.... buddy.... I think it was some other things going on before then smh.. Bless her heart...she's young and doesn't know she's been groomed.... she thought he really loved and cared for her.... She thought she was better than her mother.... Wew...Chile...I need to DRINK...
BOSS LADY - haha your comment was priceless 😂
way to look into it Psychologically. I was thinking the same thing
I don't drink but..... What did you end up drinking cause I don't blame you 😰
Lol (when you said you need to drink).
WAIT...the mother asked for counseling...there is NO AMOUNT of counseling that can repair the damage done after your boyfriend sleeps with your 20 year old daughter...he should've been GONE!!!
LowDOWN DIRTY, NASTY a*** MESS!! Everybody is SICK!!!
The saddest I feel is for the mother. She must be suffering from a total lack of self esteem to still be willing to attend counselling and working on this messed up relationship. On top of that, her romantic relationship is ruined, her relationship with her daughter is ruined. It's just so messed up am appalled.
Mama got all those rules about texting and not being in the same room. Just get rid of the man. That’ll solve everything 🤷🏾♀️
All these rules and thy still doing sneaking around smh
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Years later they still together
They still creeping. The sad part is if I suspect you then you gotta go. See cause you not gonna prove me right.
Mama still wants him and they still live together gotta be a sad way to live
That mother looked 60, not 39.
Stop insulting we 60 year olds!!!
And still having babies.... Lol
I'm shock....But mostly nauseated
The daughter looks 39
Cuz they are all stressed out
Don't make fun of her, if you might been with such guy would look in that way also! lf a woman have problems and don't take care of her face etc would look like order, she's 39 but she's large and look tiered mentally and physically! God forgive and make it easier for everyone
*God* bless you 🙏
Grooming....thats abuse. Everybody needs to be seperated from the situation. Go their seperate ways. Get counseling, find Jesus, find healthy relationships.
Everything ok. Except no one needs Jesus
@@lil_weasel219 it's their decision if they need to find Jesus if they want to believe thank u!!
@@lil_weasel219 I need that believe I need my church my community and I'm so grateful for that because not everyone got something to believe in.I don't mean spiritual.I mean smth to hold on to when life is taking the ground under ur feet
@@angelinap.7207 wanting to believe reveals the very reason people follow such a rotten system; emotional vulnerability. In science there is no blind belief, only proof.
@@lil_weasel219 That is your opinion... Religious people have their own proofs that you cannot understand. That's what faight is about!
People are allowed to believe in anything they want!
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Sickco! He finally got what he been waiting on for years. They not gonna stop sleeping together. They want each other bad but want the mother to except it so they can move about freely
I wish they would have taken a lie detector. When the Judge/magistrate said “there’s more to this story” I felt that. There is a possibility that he had been intimate with her when she was a minor.
Yes and that's why they refused bunch of nastiness kmdt
That and she was probably pregnant before and had an abortion 🤔
Disgusting....
It most always.. is that way. The majority of times. These men, will serve themselves off the lover's dtrs since they are children. All these women, taking in these men. Need to be aware, that this will be a strong possibility. They get free access to the children because they feel they have rights since they have used goods and a new one at their disposal.
Absolutely!
We ALL know Judge Lauren had a BIG glass of wine when she got home 😂🍷
Probably just sat in the car all night
I wanna see her husbands reactions hearing these cases from her 😂😂
She has a big loving heart, but this case broke a volcano of shocking emotions in all of us. I really respect judge Lauren Lake for staying pulled together in these cases. I look up to her, because my reaction was like the audience reaction.
Or a 🍾
She probably drank the WHOLE bottle after this case 😅
How small is the town they live in? I'm beyond disgusted.
Exactly💯😎
Can't agree more..
He needs to be arrested he been sleeping with her since she was a kid.. He's Nasty
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That woman has something SERIOUSLY wrong with her, how can she stay in a relationship with someone who's doing her daughter, YUCK 🤢🤢🤢
Abuse on top of abuse combined with nasty
They all messed up.
I want to feel bad for the mother but I honestly can’t. How could you stay with such a disgusting man?
Exactly 💯
You took a good look at her, the word desperate comes to mind.
I still feel sorry for her. She has to be beyond broken to accept that.
Not just that but this kind of situation is how child abuse happens, she allowed this man to live under the same roof as her daughter and after the evidence she saw the fact that he wasn't kicked out shows she put her relationship before her daughter's wellbeing from the beginning
Maybe she was already pregnant when she found out
This whole situation is just sick. These poor babies are gonna grow up confused. Why the mama look 59.
Trey king always says 39 but looks every bit of 59in the face
Stress ages
The stress that her daughter and her man have caused her has aged her.
Pamela Marie living a rough life is what aged her
Yall got me cracking up....its not funny but dang
The girls face looks disappointed seems she wanted him to be the father. That man should be in jail by now.
Bro my eyes continuously got wider throughout this entire video.
Yeah👀 You and the rest of the audience. Although I was the one who's jaw was on the floor. 😱🤢
Yess me too,i had to linger in my car parkin space to finish watchin this is sad gross n criminal.
Me too! I watched this episode twice smh.
Why is he STILL her mother's boyfriend?
That's what I'm asking?
That's a good question?
Mental illness
Because shes desperate and insecure
Why a mother need a boyfriend????!!!!!!!
This man is truly disturbed. Keep the kids away from him.
The mom is tolerating him seducing her daughter.
This guy definitely is creepy. The whole situation is creepy.
That's the bitter truth
Trina Nunez THIS IS....., AND AN ABOMINATION OOOOO!!!!! ABA! GIRL TRULY NEEDS A SPIRITUAL DELIVERANCE. RUBBISH.....HA....NA WAOOOOOO
Why didn’t grandma kick him to the curb to protect her daughter?
This honestly is the most disgusting episode I've ever seen. Shameless. And the fact that there is no indication of any remorse for the despicable behaviour blows my mind. They both refused to submit to the lie detector test, so clearly this nonsense is still going on!! They both don't care about this woman. This man says he helped raise this girl, just to turn around later and start engaging in such activities with her?? No ounce of decency from either one of them.
Well spoken! Not one curse word, punctuation, logical reasoning, thank you.
And the Mother is staying with this dude. Unbelievable
I'm wondering how early in the plaintiff's life this "affair" started. I'm guessing as soon as she hit puberty, if not before.
I agree. This honestly is the most disgusting episode I have ever seen. Sorry for her mother
@@daadirmacalin7117 I feel so bad for the mother. She looks like a woman who is truly broken, and who can blame her? So sad
Why is the mother still trying to be in a relationship with this man
More than likely she was sexually abused growing up and this is the only kind of man she knows.
I’ll bet, He’s all she THINKS she can get or has been convinced she deserves.
@Lunar Dream
No self-esteem at all‼️
This was actually normal not that long ago internationally. It's still normal within many muslim countries and some cities in the USA. I find it disgusting, but I guess some people still find it OK.
The Mom is 39? She looks like mid 50's.
I'm HIGHKEY disappointed that Judge Toler said nothing about this man essentially grooming this young woman. How could he have raised practically raised this little girl but nobody blinks an eye but to think it's weird but not predatory.
Judge Lake and yes she did say he was nasty
Same I was disaapointed that no one clocked that . He is a NONCE
This man is evil...pls don't let him near a child
Judge said, That is just nasty and I agree.🤮🤮🤮
The daughter almost cried when Judge Lake mentioned a lie detector test 😴
When the momma said she was with him for 20 years. I was like that’s even more worse, you knew your intent and helped raise this little girl. Disgusting.
This is absolutely shameful. Those kids have no hope for a normal life. That man doesn't deserve to be a father. I really hope they cut that man out of their life. He is a manipulative sociopath.
Exactly he's very disgusting
This goes down as the nastiest episode ever ! I hate to say it but he is not going to stop sleeping with the mom and daughter. 🤢
MzRille I agree
I believe that he and the daughter will move into their own place eventually.
Nastiest episode I've ever seen! Gracious
Agreed
Right tho
Can't no one tell me he wasn't carrying on a relationship with her when she was under age. That girl is holding back she just doesn't want her mom to know the full truth. This episode is making my stomach turn. She doesn't want to hurt her mother more than she already done. (Look at the daughters eyes) Molestation is a secret in that household.
Tra Trazy facts
I totally agree with that
Tra Trazy exactly! She had tears running down her face. He been messin with her.
Lie detector would have proven it. His face says it all.
I think the mother knew. None of it adds up
Predator. I just don’t understand how you help raise a child and not see her as a daughter. TF
How do you end up flirting with a woman you raised as your own daughter? How does that scenario even occur?
Edit: People need to realise the daughter is not to blame here. That man obviously groomed her.
you can tell by their responses and her stoic composure the entire time
Gothic Grandma The mother is to blame, too!! Who even lets a man like that back into their house, let alone STAYS with him. Seriously disgusting on both parts, the mother and the pos guy
@宇宙不思議な That's the meaning of the word grooming. Bringing a person to the point where they believe they are consenting of there own free will.
Don't care, she still nasty and no man with a brain should go near her.
She was 20. How she's not to blame