I'm in love, at 6'4 and 280 I have a soft spot for anything small or mini, especially equipment. I'm in the middle of starting a forestry product business, I've ordered a mill and a splitter, got a used truck and I'm looking for a small tractor now, this caught my eye and I'll definitely be watching the follow up videos, even this wee thing is out of my budget right now but hopefully now forever. Thank you for the video
Thanks for checking it out man. That business of yours sounds interesting and exciting. I get a lot of good logs so have plans (dreams?) of getting a saw mill together. Still don't have the time for it but it's a hope.
@@RandomsFandomI'm only 5'5" but I can't even afford lawnmower repair or washing machine repair all our neighbors have huge trees falling in our yard breaking fences & destroying our home. My son is over 6' but he is disabled. Lone mom 24/7/365 caregiver. Please pray for us to receive volunteer tree work help or at least tools & supplies. 🎉 I had only a "toy" battery powered chainsaw & cleared an entire oak crown alone while watching both boys. Prayers for big boys with big tools to step in and help clear the rotten trunk & the overhanging branches. Charity is the greatest. Amen Do it on the way home after helping Western NC storm victims. Thanks & God Bless & Keep you Always.
I don't know why but I too, have a soft spot for small equipment. Everybody always tells me to get bigger machinery but I love taking the time to complete jobs with a small, inexpensive piece of equipment just to prove it can be done. It's fun too!
This has to be the best unboxing video on the internet. Even AvE's mini chainsaw to the box doesn't beat the "it rained on it for 3 days". This is awesome!
Hey Spencer, thanks for your quick answer and for the info on the pricing! I truly appreciate it! you make it easier for me to make some decisions! Have a blessed day my friend!
When I was in the military as an vehicle equipment mechanic we had these ride-behinds , walk-behinds , and remote controlled ones and when we were ordered to service them , we took servicing them as an insult or punishment . Only decades later when I had to do a little earth moving did I think of these and started respecting them and wanting one . Still using the D1 dozer but hopefully in the future I'll own one .
your comments about the thought process of paying more for the "best" tools is right on. Nowadays, mainly the only tools where I would want to buy the more expensive (vs. Harbor Freight) is where it is some kind of precision instrument or something that relies on it's being perfectly "true" such as a level, a square, etc.
Yeah in this case the "best" mini-skid can run over $60k ... which is the price of about 5 of these yellow devils. I like a tool that lasts a lifetime, as a general rule, but that simply doesn't always work out. Good hearing from ya man
These days,too much is made in China used to be made in japan( which i hear is a better product!),so if you beleive in paying more for ,or to get a better product,forget that idea,I have a Dewalt skill saw,cost me 175$ Canadian,and the blade doesn't follow a straight line,everything made today is either way overpriced junk,or just low quality, use it a few times and fill up the land fill. For example, Sany sells excavators from China,for around 5 grand ,but won't sell to just one person,but to American brokers,who tack on 45000$ to a cheap Chinese machine .8 or 1 ton minidigger, maybe the higher end stuff is better? So,that 5000$ machine is being sold over here for 50,000$ for a small minidigger! Add taxes,shipping,freight and freight forwarders,and then how much is it? When I grew up,RCA record players and tvs had a reputation for quality, but the sold to Toshiba.So did a lot of product,but not now ,make it,bake it,and toss it out the door! That hammer you buy at home depot costs less to make in China,then your cup of coffee at your local restaurant! Yet you'll pay 12$ or more for it,so because we're basically getting crappy stuff these days,if you think paying 100$ for a hammer that costs .01 cents worth of scrap,is a quality product,your highly mistaken! Not to mention,your jobs are going to China,but as the bible says," In last days the dragon shall rise!" China's symbol is the dragon,and we're feeding it money for junky products. My neighbour has a small john deer tractor,he says it costs him 28000$ but the engine is made,guess where,China! I will say they are good machinists,but your low budget equipement definitely has its drawbacks,poor quality fit and finish. I just saw a youtube about a tractor convention,the sales guy ,says big name brand excavator companies are shipping there parts to China for assembly, but I bet you'll still pay big bux for that machine over here! If you check the price of there wages,it about .14 cents to the US dollar, I personally think China is screwing us,and think we're stupid to pat there prices for there min diggers,a min excavator going to Africa costs less according ti one Chinese broker because it doesn't need an Epa engine,but I think he was lying..maybe! And why do we need an epa lawn mower engine, with supposedly a catalytic converter?
@@davidrussell8795 very interesting... so basically what I'm hearing you say is that for most/many things/tools, etc. the difference that the harbor freight chinese stuff and the brand name chinese stuff is (almost) exactly the same quality and that the higher price of the brand name stuff is WAY out of line with the small difference (if any) of quality.
@@davidrussell8795 That entire JD is made in Asia as is every other brand of sub compact tractor. Not just the engine. Only the larger machines have enough margin to be made in the US. However I would rather support India and So. Korea vs China. If China doesn't have a civil war/revolution soon we are going to end up at war with them.
Very cool little machine. I was looking into mini skid steers a few months ago, but like you said they’re many many moneys. I’ve invested in other stuff this season, so the mini skid isn’t essential. Having said that, it’s cool you have the grapple anyway, even if it’s heavy. You can at least drag brush with it. And as long as the bucket picks up logs (is stronger than you) then you’re golden. Congratulations on the new purchase. You will make money with it. My work truck is 50 years old and I’ve made my money back over and over again since I’ve bought and modded it. Same with my wood chipper. It’s old, small, and it still cost a lot, but it has made me many many moneys, and has helped us be more efficient. One day I’ll get bigger stuff…when I need it. I buy heavy equipment used for now, because that’s what my budget is. It’s still expensive, as you know. I also pay cash for everything; lots of guys buy new stuff but it’s either financed or on credit. I’m not into that. I only buy what I can afford, and then work my way up. That strategy hasn’t failed me yet. Congrats again on the newest member of your ground crew. Have a good weekend 👍
I like that strategy man! Some guys are all about going into debt on fancy equipment and new stuff ... I got my work truck for 3k (it had been wrecked and wouldn't run) but some wrenching and TLC and it's been great. So keep those bills down and the money coming in! haha ... good stuff man
I literally just bought my first saw, hoping over this winter to get some climbing gear an ropes an in the spring hopefully get a easy job or two an get that hands on experience. Iam 40yrs old an been a janitor since i was 18, my resume is basically blank so applying for jobs kinda sucks so hopefully come spring I'll make my own "destiny" lol
It’s only 1,873 pounds (850Kg). That’s going to be great for low impact on customer’s lawns. We have a Deere 35G mini ex, and there are times that 8,000 poind machine can’t be used on a tree job because it would destroy their yard!
@@jacobcarter5923 I use it in tree work all the time. Moving 14 foot 3,000 pound logs to the dump trailer is a lot faster than bucking them into small enough pieces to maneuver by hand, or down to a size a mini-skid can lift. Like Spencer, a lot of us aren’t far enough along to afford a chipper big enough to eat the stem wood, so hauling it off is the name of the game.
@@jermaineglover4043 I bought nearly new for just over $40k. I do more small excacation jobs than I do tree work, and it’s the most used tool on our homestead.
The thing I've been thinking just about any of these ride on skid steers need is a counterweight like you've mentioned. I've been thinking the most modular way of doing so is buying your standard weight lifting plates with mounts, and then bolting/welding mounts to the back/sides of the machine and then you can add/remove weight as necessary.
It sure would be nice to be able to take them on-and-off like that. Someone else recommended a thick piece of plate back there that could come on-and-off. Either way it's MUCH NEEDED unless I can manage to gain 100lbs real quick :)
Maybe figuring out how to add a 20 gallon or so water tank made of thick plastic, should give you about 160 pounds and not be too hard to fill/drain as needed.
Kubota and bobcats mini skid steers the weights go in the track area towards the rear. one of them has an alternate mounting location but haven't seen it used . One thing that has me hesitant about pushing for counter weights for our Kubota is these little things throw you around quite a bit. You can hit a good bump and lose a large rock out of the bucket and the machine will react in a way you probably won't expect other than part of the reaction is the machine going backwards almost teetering. It is so much worse when traveling backwards. The common reaction is to step off which is a hard reaction to not have but if you do you'll be hurting if you don'tb catch yourself quick enough. More counterweight just makes me think the reaction will happen that much quicker and more violent. And if you do find yourself between the machine and the ground that's even more weight pinning you in place. I think that's why Kubota and bobcat opt for the weight within the tracks, in order to make it more predictable and limit it's want to roll backwards. Both the Kubota and bobcat (with the taller tracks in the rear) aren't any better with the platform bottoming out. Only difference really is the way it drives the tracks. Only occasionally does the sensor read that you are no longer on it, then you just need to override it to get going again.
I've been looking at old mini utility tractors with loader buckets on them Just for messing around the yard. Now you've got me hooked on one of these! I work for a municipality with every machine you can think of. Sucks when you come home and do everything by hand. I need some sort of gizmo, this might just be it, excellent video.
I won't lie. As cool as this mini skedsteer is, I really like my Kubota l2501 compact tractor. Not that much heavier. Still pretty lawn friendly. Not that much more money. Way more versatile, except for tight areas, and way more lifting capacity/reach. But, can't load both it and debris in the dump trailer, which means an extra trip.
I like my larger Ford tractors too ... tractors are just SOO versatile, can lift more, etc. So I see whatcha mean. This is a pretty small little loader compared to a tractor ... looks like a new Kubota l2501 these days can get up around $20k, so more monies but you get what you pay for. Those are great machines.
I just ordered a forklift from China and right now is in the middle of the ocean traveling. I am actually a little overwhelmed regarding all the paperwork but look like the agent will works everything out for me
@@j.p.fabrications Yes I did, the process was pretty easy, they practically did everything included the custom agent. The only problem was the fact that the forklift get some cosmetic damages during the shipping process, not a lot of them but quite disappointing, they have insurance and I am still dealing with them.
I bought a clamshell grapple for two reasons. 1 carries the load closer to the machine. 2, don't have to tip the bucket to unload when over the dump trailer. I also purchased a hose tender spring thing to keep the hoses up away from harm.
Sounds like a good unit! I have a similar grapple on my other mini skid now, but that spring doesn't always do the job ... looking for a better hose holder
Drill some holes in the side panels and cantalever a bracket behind the platform to hold tractor weights. Different weights for different tools and loads. That should roughly double the capacity. The machine has such a small footprint that tipping is a real concern, so don't over do it. The machine looks like it has the hydraulics and mechanics of a commercial zero turn mower. That may dictate the size which also means a slight upsize would probably double the cost.
Loved the video. Was skeptical about the customs on a previous purchase but seeing it and knowing it's not a scam I just ordered the 2 ton! Way way better price than bobcat. Thanks
1) From the time of order, how long until time of pickup at port? 2) How much in $ was un-disclosed costs at port (agent/customs/port costs/wait times)? 3) I worry about the drive sprocket grinding down if it's not lifted on a triangular track setup. wonder about finding tracks in the states, or will you have to go back to to the port to get new tracks? Tires are probably easier to find, but ... they don't have the pushing power either and don't hold up to thorns/rebar shards either. 4) A lot of the domestic loaders have leg pads/support for fatigue, this thing seems to be rather spartan at that. 5) Having to worry about learning some new 'control pattern' vs a standard skid steer pattern. 6) Bucket dump pin-height, to know how high you can lift a load to load a dump trailer over the side wall. It seems units like these are going for around $8000 give or take a few hundred for a gas engine model, some come with a 4:1 bucket. The Hysoon had a pretty good review. Diesel more expensive. Domestic models, I've priced around $32,000 before taxes which seems 'ridiculous' to me. (Bobcat, Kubuta, Vermeer, DitchWitch) Then again the Bobcats I have had last decades.
Hiya lots of good thoughts and questions there. Time from order to delivery was several months but that was also at a time when the Chinese government locked down the port of Shanghai, so ya never know how it would be in the future. Added costs was a few grand for sure with customs and whatnot. We'll have to see about the drive sprocket, tracks, and other elements over time -- only time will tell, really. Getting new parts may be tricky; again, time will tell. YOu mention leg pads: on this one your legs are up against the engine is you stand close! I stay back to keep the weight back LOL The domestic skids I''ve priced are well over $50k without attachments and I've had dealers not get back to me. Used machines are in the 20s and 30s where I am.
@@yogi799 Seems like customs and port officials want about 25% above what the machine cost from China, so be prepared to be slapped with fees galore especially if you are a rookie at the paperwork.
Bought an old mini skid steer, Rounder L700 40" bucket came with a newer grapple modified to fit. Fits in a lot of spaces a full size will not. Cheaped out on a set of clamp on forks., eventually will buy a dedicated fork attachment.
Obviously, it will be a huge help to you and to get the job done without wearing yourself out, that's what really matters. It will be interesting to see how it stands the test of time though and are parts available for it in North America. I was wondering if you were going to pick up a round from that Ash tree! Definitely can't fault you for trying. Looking forward to seeing you use it in the future.
My thoughts exactly on the repairs: some aspects of the machine are common around here, and others not so much. So repairs and maintenance may be the biggest challenge
@@metaspencer Like you said, sometimes you have to take a chance and hope you get lucky. Whatever the future brings, I'm here for the ride! Have a great weekend.
From what I've seen, parts for these Chinese pieces of equipment shouldn't be hard to find and tractor supply or northern tool. I bet 98% of it is off the shelf parts
Very surprised you bought that thing. I run a similar operation and bought a older Thomas 25g with 250hrs on it for 7k. Thought you’d buy an old dingo before that thing. Not saying it was the wrong move just surprised. Good luck. Love the channel.
Oh man sounds like you got a deal!! I’ve been looking for a used mini for 2 years now but haven’t found the right one so thought I’d try something else … we’ll see how it goes
I will buy every running machine of a quality brand you can sell me to that kind of money. A worn out pos unit still sells for about the 13-15k something like this currently sells for in my area. I say you either got the you bought from your dad deal or you are full of it. You would not belive the crap folks think is worth 20k+. 7k for 250 hours would only be if the 250 hours were at the bottom of a lake.
It is a log roller. It can move the big rounds out to the more powerful loader. Noodling is when you cut the big round in half using a chainsaw with the grain and parallel to the grain.
Can't believe you didn't throw a blue tarp over the top when you got it home or better still before you left the dock! Looking forward to seeing how it works out.
@@danielmelcher5310 There's kind of a color code, followed by most (but not all) manufacturers; the color suggests the thickness. Blue's thinnest, then yellow or orange, then green, then silver, and brown is thickest.
My Buddy and I run a small firewood business, and I'll be dipped, this thing would be amazing for our application! Just invested a BUNCH of monies into a Powersplit double station machine.... When it is working, it is a mind blower- that being said, when it doesn't, it's a big blue turd. This little skiddy would be a game changer, since the worst part about using the new rig is getting the rounds to the "lifts". Thanks for the great video... no candy-coating, just an honest review. Be safe, and take care!
That Powersplit sounds awesome. I use a traditional hydraulic splitter for our firewood and it tips over to do big rounds vertically. You definitely need a system for those big ones. Maybe a conveyor belt or chain hoist? Good hearing from ya!
very informative, I remember watching your post on the big cheap blue chainsaw. I like how you do your homework and stay up on maintaining your equipment. keep posting
We have them here in Australia but there called Hysoon, I have the hy380 same as what you have but the wheeled version with the Kohler engine, iv put about 200 hours on it in the past 1-1.5 years since purchasing it new and it’s been great.. I got the 4 in one bucket also but has the same issue as the grapple you have it’s just way to heavy especially if trying to pick up a full bucket of dirt.. for the price you really can’t beat it
@@mickjoebills I didn’t have to import one into Australia, there is a distributor that owns the “Hysoon” brand here in Australia that sells them direct to the public
Weld a couple stakes on your foot deck on back and put some old metal weights from barbell's. Perfect for counterweights for your grapple. Doesn't seem too bad. I'm an asphalt paving guy that has been in the construction industry for over 40 years and they all break! New, old and the best! I go for the best bang for the buck
I can't believe it has a 35hp vanguard. Great engine's ran one on my. Bandit 65 wood chipper for years no problems at all. Still running great when I sold it.
What a Great video and review, as always Spencer, thoroughness is definitely a talent you possess, Thank you for sharing and I am excited to see the little yellow beast fair you well for many years and in your videos to come.
I’ve operated one of these moving mulch and it worked great but I found it difficult to grade with because of the controls it’s hard to operate the bucked while in motion. Maybe someone else can but I found it difficult. But for the money it’s not a bad machine. After seeing the video this one had two sticks rather than 4 like the one I used had
Yup, that grapple is a little large. Think you are on to something making it a little smaller with flat steel and take the hoses and have them shortened. Other than that I think that little track can do work>
Little help. When picking up piles of brush you need to roll into them. Make piles about 5ft high and smash down with the grapple. Then open the grapple and come over the top like you would pick up with your hands basically and clamp down right before you hit the ground and then Curl up your pile and you'll make a cleaner pick.
Great video thatnk for showing us that thing. The grapple you got is a manure grapple made for cleaning out stalls and barns. A brush grapple isn't as sharp.
Bigger is not always better. It's the same as "the more it costs, you get a better product". Everything has its pros and cons, as well as their intended uses.
Hey There Spencer, I just ordered one of these mini loaders too. Regarding the clearance through Customs, I'm actually a little familiar with the process since I used to work for a shipping company in New York, but that was 30 years ago. Since then I've lived in Orlando FL and have not touched shipments anymore... Anyways, could you let me know if you pre-cleared the machine (in which case you would've needed the paperwork upfront ahead of the arrival of the ship) or did you have to wait until the ship arrived in order to clear customs? Mine is arriving in Miami, about 4 hours from where I live and I just want to make sure I only make one trip down there. hahahaha Thanks Spencer!
Hey Buddy, I knew NOTHING about the process so you'll do great at it. Yes it was pre-cleared before leaving. I think Homeland security requires that now or something like that. The shipper took a fee at the port (I think it was about $800 for all kinds of weird stuff) and then my shipping agent took about the same amount of $$ for whatever they did. So there are some fees built in but still waaaaaay cheaper than a high-end machine. Email or message me with any other questions. I'm happy to share my experience. Cool that you're getting one!
That looks like a little great machine and for the price cant really go wrong. That Briggs and Stratton is a division of toyota. I had a 35 HP, and it was brilliant engine on a pressure washer
I didn't know B & S was part of Toyota -- it's interesting how so many seemingly distinct brands are related. I run some different chainsaw brands that are made by the same company. Thanks for the info!
@@metaspencer that's because it isn't "part of toyota" B&S is owned by KPS, a capital investment firm (who also owns Taylormade golf equipment and AM General). At one point Vanguard engines were built in Japan in a partnership with Dihatsu, but as of 2017 that's no longer the case. They are built in the US. Now that machine being made in China, ill almost bet that isn't a real Vanguard engine, rather a counterfeit
In total, what did you spend on it? The price of the machine, the price of having a shipping agent and such... What is it's lifting capacity? I have a small landscaping and tree company. And I'm totally interested in this. The vermeeers and toros are like 30k
Hey man -- I didn't mention exact price in the video because prices change over time and videos last a while. This machine is about $12k right now, but with taxes and fees and freight and customs and all of that probably closer to $15k. If you can't pick it up at a coastal port shipping would be another charge. The name brand machines from dealers are over $50k ... as for lifting capacity it can lift right around 450 lbs. Vermeers and Toros are up over $50k last I checked
Wonder if you could get a smaller Toro grapple and put it on the tiny skid steer? Your content never ceases to amaze! It's scary and hilarious at the same time! Glad you got this new ground crew helper, will save your - er, the ground crew's - arms and back for sure! Thanks for another great video!
Ooooo, I like that idea of creating a Franken-skid-steer by adding a Toro grapple. I think there's a way to make it work ... just gotta find one on the tree-guy black market. thanks for that idea! :)
Ever hear of a tarp?my question to you is: would you buy it again if you had it to do over? Looks industrious anough to mount counter weight under the back.maby a couple of side saddle weights. Still looks to small. But from the aspect now you have a mobile hydraulic pto tool carrier.😉
This "tarp" you speak of -- sounds like a brilliant invention! :) Yeah I'd buy it again ... it's not the best mini skid steer out there by a long shot but the price was right for me and I use the dang thing just about every day. You're right about the weights for sure
Its horses for courses, as you say it lifts stuff you can't so from that perspective it's ideal. I think it would be really good for sites where your might have access issues and you limited for space.
I own a lot of equipment, including several of these exact Chinese mini skids in the gasoline and bigger brother diesel version. If you have any questions about them feel free to hit me up. They've suprisingly given us very little issues considering the price point. There are a hand full of importers around the US a person could pick one up for not much more money and without having to jump through the hoops of maritime shipping and customs. Great video! 👍🏻
That's great to hear! I don't know anyone else with this kind of equipment so was a bit hesitant ... so far so good man. I'll look up those dealers you mention as I'd like to get some more equipment in the future if possible. Thanks!
@@metaspencer Great video! Id really like to know more about your import experience and the vetting process for purchasing overseas. I'll try and send you a message on social media. Thanks for making this content!
@@jimgingericj9438 here's a link to the machine I bought ... www.alibaba.com/product-detail/skid-steer-loader_1600391587866.html?spm=a2747.manage.0.0.3b4171d21Akio2
Killdozer. That things awesome. You might try a counter weight on it when using the grapple. Maybe a piece of armor plate on the platform you're standing on to offset the weight of the grapple like on a crane. As for buying the cheap tool and hoping to get away with it, I'm the king of cheap. I went back to tree cutting when I was broke, so I had to start on a shoestring budget and being in my 60s I don't work a ton, so I don't earn a lot. I've been getting by now for 5 years on a little Echo CS 590 with a '24 bar as my only "big saw". Everything else I have are climbing saws. To date that Timberwolf has managed to handle any job or tree I threw at it, and sometimes I get some big fat stuff so, yea... I think you made a very wise purchase. I'd love to get one of those things but still out of my budget. But maybe some day down the road I might look into getting one. Definitely a helpful tool to have.
I know what you mean about buying stuff from China. Helped a friend buy a Diesel generator and it took forever to get and was damaged. You never mentioned price but by the time we shipped the thing and paid all the middlemen the cost was double. Still far cheaper than the real brand name. Worked fine once all the broken parts were replaced and loose bolts tightened.
That sounds like a bit of a fiasco and getting this thing here from China also took several months. China closed Shanghai due to Covid right in the middle of the deal, and that didn't help. With all that said, though, many "name brand" tools are made in the same factories anyway, so I don't always see a huge difference
@@metaspencer That generator with the Cummins clone engine runs great and looks exactly like the real deal. 25 Kw for about 3000 dollars by the time it arrived. The shippers had broken off a valve cover and bent the serpentine pulley, and some manifold bolts were loose so we ended up checking torque on everything including the bearing and head bolts. As you said the quality of parts looked about the same as a regular 4B engine.
Great video mate! What's your summary after a year of owning it? Wear and tear etc? Would it handle day in and out shifting materials etc? Not digging. Thanks.
Solid machine that can definitely get some work done. I had zero problems with it but bought a BIGGER machine for my business. I'd totally buy another one tho -- and they're on FB marketplace these days cheap
Here's a link to the machine in the video: www.alibaba.com/product-detail/skid-steer-loader_1600391587866.html?spm=a2747.manage.0.0.3b4171d21Akio2 ... And then here is a full account of my shipping process: ua-cam.com/video/eXZ_xZuLYso/v-deo.html
For the broke, ie, me!, I would love to have one of these. It is my only option! That being said, I would love it, and be better off with ot, than with none! THANK YOU! Let's get this process started!
Why would you add a weight to the operator platform? You are the weight you say the grapple bucket is too heavy. Well you can do what you did by pushing down on the bucket on a Vermeer you are the counterweight the tracks are not a Eliot they are a low track versus a high track and it doesn’t increase your ground clearance, the major difference is it gets your drives out of the dirt doesn’t increase your clearance what that cost 6 to 8 grand versus 40 to 80 for a brand name and only a select few are less than 36” my Vermeer is 54”or 48 with narrower tracks but then it cuts ruts from lack of flotation I guess I just don’t understand what you think you were buying as far as everything being drenched that’s on you from leaving it in the rain for as long as you did
Hi, this got me hooked, great introduction of this small helper! One question that would interest me is how would it do on climbs, what kind of elevation would be tollerable.
I've used it to haul logs up hill a few times now, and it's done great. You can see it in this vid: ua-cam.com/video/NH9irkUnJwI/v-deo.html ... with that said, I'm always careful not to go sideways on a hill and tend to back up the hill for safety. Not a perfect machine by any means, but it gets the job done
Very cool beast. It would definitely help load the logs, which smashes the brush, which means you could get a larger load per trip. But… I can’t let go of the money. It’s a problem. Stay safe
I rented a dingo tx1000 machine for several weekends to do the final grading in my back yard after I had an in ground pool put in this past summer. I removed 60 yards of rock hard clay with it (after jackhammering the surface to break they the top 6-12 inches of it). This was all in a tight space where the width of a big skidsteer just wouldn’t fit. Awesome awesome little machine, and would love to own one for my diy house projects, but I was absolutely floored when I checked the price of one. Really makes me want to get into making these things. They are actually very simple machines. Profit margin must be huge on them for companies like toro, bobcat etc.
@@metaspencer that dingo was such a sweet machine, I also drilled about 50-12inch wide post holes with it in a short time. It honestly doesn’t look that much more powerful that the machine you have here. The dingo could not dig into the clay of my yard without me jackhammering the surface first (cheap 200dollar chinese jackhammer that is now a paperweight, but did get the job done before it died) The machine you have in this video would be more than enough for the landscaping I have left to do on my pool build. They are just so useful. As you eluded to in your video, one of the best parts of the stand-on machines is you can be super precise with the attachments, the standing position gives such good visibility of what your doing.
@@S4NORICE It's been great so far. Like all equipment it will eventually need work, that's always the case, but it's a pretty simple machine overall. Cold starts all winter have impressed me
So many things could have gone wrong with that unloading :-) Glad it all went well though Spence. Hope the machine lasts for a good long time. My old man cheaped out on a mini excavator from China and we have serious regrets. At least yours came with a Briggs and Stratton engine, we had to replace the diesel engine ours came with :-(
@@jackson6.083 Yep, that link takes you to the sales guy I worked with. Just gotta pay through Alibaba then pay another $3k or so for customs and importing stuff
So what was the exact price that you paid for this little machine minus your time and gas to grab it? Would you buy another machine like this again if you had to? Does that manufacturer have other little equipment as well that you considered?
I didn't mention exact price in the video because prices change over time and videos last a while. This machine is $12k right now, but but taxes and fees and freight and customs and all of that probably closer to $15k. If you can't pick it up at a coastal port shipping would be another charge. The name brand machines from dealers are over $50k ... As for if I'd do it again I'd have to tell you in a year after steady use. Only time will tell. So far I'm happy with it. The manufactuer had some other stuff but I wanted a small, light loader
Should be able to put that on the flatbed and still haul the trailer, presuming it's not 4000lbs. I set my vermeer stx 30 stump grinder on my flatbed and turn it sideways in the front by the headache rack. At that point hookup the gooseneck and load the Kubota R420. And your not joking about many many bucks for one of those minis. What ultimately did it run you to purchase it? I'm wanting one but not willing to drop 25k on it, this machine might be a perfect addition to my arsenal. It is impossible to have one machine that would do it all..I like the content man..thank you
@@BRIDGEBURNERSTV lift it with the loader, I don't use the little grinder much at all anymore. Always have the loader with me with the clamshell bucket and forks. Forks for the grinder and cleanup with the bucket
That sounds like a great setup man ... very economical. The price for one of these yellow bad boys is about $12k out of the gate, but after paying fees and customs charges and all of that it's a few grand more. I like that you have a gooseneck! When I built my flatbed I should have fabricated a gooseneck hatch ...
They are usually shipped without the fluids in them and it will likely be out of engine oil and guel. I'm only saying that because I didn't notice you put in any oil just fuel
How do you like this machine after a year of use? Any major issues or concerns come up? I have been looking at one of these that comes with a snow blower attachment. I haven't found anybody that has reviewed the snow blower yet but I would assume it would work pretty well as long as the skid steer holds up.
I have really liked the machine -- it's one heck of a lifter. With that said I did end up getting a second heavier and more powerful machine because I lift a lot of heavy logs. I haven't used the snow blower but sounds awesome
Boys a China Skid, picks it up from customs and then leaves it in the rain for two days without throwing a tarp over it. Excuse me but am I watching a video of myself?
Hows it drag or tow things? Back wards and or forwards? Might be good for snow removal as well. Very cool new toy. (I call all my tools and equipment my toys... Not an insult)
Hey buddy -- this machine is really great for lifting and moving heavy stuff around, and I've dragged plenty of trees (backwards) with it. With that said I now have a much bigger mini skid as well just because it's heavier. The prices are much lower these days on the machine in the vid
Bought a new Bobcat MT100 and it’s a beast. I’ve lifted 1300 lbs(only rated at 1K) but it lifted it fairly easily. It’s way beyond these el cheapo machines but I paid 39K in fairness. I’m mad yours has a horn and lights. Mine doesn’t!
Great in-depth video. Are you able to share what is the total cost including shipping? How long does it take to get to you? Can I do the paperwork by email for the shipping? Are you able to fix it if it breaks or order parts if a part breaks?
I didn't mention exact price in the video because prices change over time and videos last a while. This machine is about $12k right now, but but taxes and fees and freight and customs and all of that probably closer to $15k. If you can't pick it up at a coastal port shipping would be another charge. The name brand machines from dealers are over $50k ... here’s a link to the loader I got so you can see the specs and all that: www.alibaba.com/product-detail/skid-steer-loader_1600391587866.html?spm=a2747.manage.0.0.3b4171d21Akio2 ... as far as time it took a few months to arrive but that had to do with China shutting down the port of Shanghai. But it's not a super quick process for sure ... as for parts I'll just have to see how it goes! it does run on a Briggs and Stratton engine :)
@@metaspencer Thanks. I wonder where I could get a good used one from. Do you know anybody? Just kidding. Again great video, thank you for posting and thank you for responding.
Curious about the specifics with shipping/customs. There’s US distributors of the Chinese equipment. Would like to crunch numbers and see if it makes sense to buy from a US distributor vs from the manufacturer directly
I didn't know about the US distributors so good thinking. I didn't mention exact price in the video because prices change over time and videos last a while. This machine is about $12k right now, but but taxes and fees and freight and customs and all of that probably closer to $15k. If you can't pick it up at a coastal port shipping would be another charge. The name brand machines from dealers are over $50k ... here’s a link to the loader I got so you can see the specs and all that: www.alibaba.com/product-detail/skid-steer-loader_1600391587866.html?spm=a2747.manage.0.0.3b4171d21Akio2
@@danielpais7306 That sounds about right for the import fees, taxes, etc -- but you've gotta realize that it depends on which port you ship to, which shipper is used, which shipping agent you use, etc. So it's not a fixed price kind of thing
Hey man- love the video. Extremely helpful as I have recently bought some land and will need machinery to perform different types of work. Couple things here: - I may have missed it but is yours the 13 hp or 23? -we’re you able to get product under 4K? I’be been talking with reps on alibaba and it seems that the listed price of the machine keeps getting cranked up whenever we come to a final sale. I was planning on picking up at Houston port to cut delivery costs. Thanks man
Hey buddy, that land sounds like it's gonna be great! This machine is 23 hp with pretty good lifting power (around 500lbs). Paid 9k for the machine and 3k in shipping and fees, but prices have come down since then. I'd estimate 10k total these days with the chinese currency down
Boxer has some smaller mini skids that I actually think would be comparable in price when it's all said and done. I got a heck of a deal on a Kubota bx2650 for 6k and it looks more capable all around then that machine. For everything you used that machine for in the vid, I bet you would be happier with a sub compact tractor.
That Kubota of yours sounds like a great machine! I have a buddy with a Boxer that he likes. This one is around $12k new and the Boxers are more, but probably better in a lot of ways. I have a couple of tractors that are great but just hard to transport to jobs
@@metaspencer Its been about 6 years since I've really looked at mini skids much. I didn't know morbark bought boxer. I thought they use to make a very small unit under 20k. Smallest I see now is the 320 and they don't make something that small now. I see a couple for sale used in the high teens. I've rented a dingo a couple of times and I use to want a mini skid. Then my friend bought a kubota bx 2370 and I was hooked. They are way faster, and do basically no damage to the turf. As far as trailering its no different than a mini skid. weight, length, and width is not that much different. I can fit the bx, a 3 point rake, and my kubota zd331 72 inch mower on a 20ft trailer. The loads overhangs the trailer and the bucket sits on the trailer tongue. The downsides of a sub-compactor tractor are you need more room to turn, you won't have the aux hydro flow, and you won't match the lifting capacity on a small mini skid. the bx does have more capacity than the infront though.
How you like this for tree removals? Seems like it could help in loading.. I was thinking about a mini excavator instead as it can lift higher and dig.
Yeah I don't take it out on every job and don't find it saves me time when moving brush ... but for big heavy stuff it's GREAT to have on site and makes so much possible. Really excellent for logs
CN you please tell us the price. Not sure why the secrecy when it came to how much it cost and how much. Name brand one cost. If you could, provide the link to order as well?
I'm a college student in Houghton Michigan where we get 200-300" of snow every winter. Depending on the cost, this may be worth the investment in clearing our driveway and maybe performing some other work to make some money. Is there a way to find where you purchased this to see if it would be feasible? Thanks!
You'll find a link to the machine in the description below the video -- the machine itself is about $9k but you've gotta add on various customs fees and shipping and all that. Good luck with it!
I just got a new one for my 1/2 acre. Gravel, grading, brush clearing, moving block - total mini-beast. Saved my back and countless hours of shoveling.
They may be small and have a much smaller capacity compared to a normal sized skid steer but standing in the open and being able to see around you without obstructions really increases the users comfort and piece of mind that they are clear of obstructions and free to move. We had many jobs where we would use the mini skid steer even though the full size would of fit because when running the mini skid steer i don't have to run within 3 inches of instructions at a snails pace unlike when trying squeeze in our SSV75. I like to have all the equipment on site but that's just not practical.
I'm in New York State and the machine runs around $12k ... I think that's without the grapple. There are some added shipping fees that might push it closer to $15k. You'll see a link in the description
It has a Vanguard engine from Briggs and Stratton and I haven't had any trouble with it, but cold starts take a bit of cranking for sure. Always fires up tho
I noticed the grapple is five prong and heavy. Is it within your capacity to lop off the ends and make it a three prong? This would cut weight and would still function more less the same due to the hydraulics. Help me out if I’m off point. Genuinely curious on this
For a counterweight I would replace the driver's stand with 1" plate steel It'll take a little fabricating If you make it strong enough you could put a hole for a trailer ball
@@metaspencer I had thought of the plate as I went down through the replies, bur would a 1" or so diameter bar at the back to take some counterweights that would also act as wheels. Size the counterweights so that when sitting of level ground they would be 1-2 inches above the ground. That way they would keep the platform from digging in as you back up and would have the weight further back so they would not have to be as heavy as a weight mounted closer to the machine. Do you get fed up with people who keep asking about the cost even though put a link to the machine up front.
@@Rxxx-ve4lj Oh man, that idea of weight/wheels is really cool. I haven't modded the machine yet with any weights -- cool concept. It's funny how so many people ask about the price: you know how it is on UA-cam ... people just kinda scan through things and miss a lot, so I understand. Thanks for that idea!
So how much did you pay for rhe machine and attachments shipped? Is it still hooding up and would you recommend it for a small tiny landscape company juat starting, does it feel reliable after using it a while. Thanks for your video.
I still use it daily and it's great ... steady lifter day-in and day-out. Cost is currently about $9k for the machine and $3k to get it to the port. For my small biz it's been a money maker for sure. 3 day jobs can get done in 1 day sometimes, thanks to the machine
The Giant mini articulating loader is the way to go! 3k lbs, can easily lift 2k. Turf tires, extending boom to load dump truck. Expensive, but cheaper and more reliable than an employee
For the best tool stuff I think that depends a lot about what it's for and how hard that job is and how much easier it will make something for you. That sounds obvious but here's my example: I'm pretty bad in the tree still so anything that makes me fumble less, feel safer, or is lighter and faster has a lot of value for me. If I was in super good shape maybe aluminum geckos don't matter. If I had massive arms maybe I don't have a 2511t and use the 355t more often. Things like that. I threw down for a nice Kubota for a different reason. I know it will last and I know it has resale. I had an LS that depreciated very quickly. That said all my 18v tools are ryobi and they are perfect for me /ramble
So how does one go about getting a shipping agent? And did you just call the factory in China or use a web site? I'm on a budget and would like get one with the thought if I get 3 or 4 years worth of work pit of it it will pay for itself and hopefully I will be in a position to get a "better" one at that point
I started out by messaging the company through the link I provided. The guy on the other end was pretty nice and reliable. He had some customs forms for me to fill out when it shipped ... then there is the shipping company to pay (that was about a grand) and I got a shipping agent through a list the port provided. That also took a few phone calls. So it's not a simple process but I'm glad I did it
@@metaspencer It was an uphill battle from port to port and shipping charges for each leg and with the help of the customs clearance agent I had to hire! But it’s here in Hawaii! Thank you again!
You could always find somewhere to weld a short tube of steel in the back on either side to add a few olympic 45lb weight plates. would be interesting to add an extra 90 lb to each side and re test claw only
I have a similar small grapple on my TYM sub-kompakt. I think they use the same unit with different QuikkAttach mounts. Bekuzz I'm pretty sure they are the same dimensions
@@metaspencer man. They make konversion plates between the mini SSQA and the standard. I will be buying a mini grapple as soon as my standard sized SSQA weld plate arrives. Then burning a 48" mini grapple onto it. My TYM doesn't have the greatest lift power. So i figure lighter is better and just use akkordingly. I really appreciate the rake type grapple bekuzz you kan plow with them like a dozer so to illustrate.
awesome review. What about parts and maintenance? where would you take it and do parts here in America work? or do you have to order from them all the time?
I'm not too worried about the parts -- it's a pretty simple machine and the engine is Briggs and Straton. The tracks can be ordered, and everything else looks pretty standard. But if you're looking for a machine you can take back to the dealer for repairs, this definitely isn't it!
I would re-badge it with a DeWalt sticker, just to have fun with people
haha ... great idea! :)
nah, paint it red and put a Milwaukee sticker on it... could sell it to some sucker for $10k...lol
I'm in love, at 6'4 and 280 I have a soft spot for anything small or mini, especially equipment. I'm in the middle of starting a forestry product business, I've ordered a mill and a splitter, got a used truck and I'm looking for a small tractor now, this caught my eye and I'll definitely be watching the follow up videos, even this wee thing is out of my budget right now but hopefully now forever. Thank you for the video
Thanks for checking it out man. That business of yours sounds interesting and exciting. I get a lot of good logs so have plans (dreams?) of getting a saw mill together. Still don't have the time for it but it's a hope.
Get something bigger. You'll need the strength
@@metaspenceryou should get one! It was worth the time and investment. I’m 27 and I will have this fella for my lifetime
@@RandomsFandomI'm only 5'5" but I can't even afford lawnmower repair or washing machine repair all our neighbors have huge trees falling in our yard breaking fences & destroying our home. My son is over 6' but he is disabled. Lone mom 24/7/365 caregiver. Please pray for us to receive volunteer tree work help or at least tools & supplies. 🎉 I had only a "toy" battery powered chainsaw & cleared an entire oak crown alone while watching both boys. Prayers for big boys with big tools to step in and help clear the rotten trunk & the overhanging branches. Charity is the greatest. Amen
Do it on the way home after helping Western NC storm victims. Thanks & God Bless & Keep you Always.
I don't know why but I too, have a soft spot for small equipment. Everybody always tells me to get bigger machinery but I love taking the time to complete jobs with a small, inexpensive piece of equipment just to prove it can be done. It's fun too!
This has to be the best unboxing video on the internet. Even AvE's mini chainsaw to the box doesn't beat the "it rained on it for 3 days". This is awesome!
hahaha ... I still like those AvE mini chainsaw moments :)
@@dynoranch1205 At the port I had to pay the shipper about $800 and a agent another $900 ... everyone gets some money in a deal like that
So am I reading you got this thing delivered for under 5k? With attachments?
Closer to $15k in the end. Machine is $9k
@@metaspencer And you did this to save money? You could have gotten a used bobcat for that much.
I've been waiting for a solid review of one of these things for YEARS! Thank you sir
Cool to hear! Yeah, it's been an interesting piece of daily-use equipment so far.
Hey Spencer, thanks for your quick answer and for the info on the pricing! I truly appreciate it! you make it easier for me to make some decisions! Have a blessed day my friend!
Whats the price for this thing?
@@danielmelcher5310
Dude is japping about for 15minutes and never tells a price
When I was in the military as an vehicle equipment mechanic we had these ride-behinds , walk-behinds , and remote controlled ones and when we were ordered to service them , we took servicing them as an insult or punishment . Only decades later when I had to do a little earth moving did I think of these and started respecting them and wanting one . Still using the D1 dozer but hopefully in the future I'll own one .
that D1 is a beast! I didn't know the military used ride-behind equipment: thanks for the info. It's cool that you got that mechanical experience
@@metaspencer Looks like the one in this video is a ride-behind .
It can be a torture test to work on the small machines!
Not bad for 13 k but the tipping weight is a bit low, glad it’s getting the job done!
Any idea what they were called in case they're in a surplus sale
your comments about the thought process of paying more for the "best" tools is right on.
Nowadays, mainly the only tools where I would want to buy the more expensive (vs. Harbor Freight) is where it is some kind of precision instrument or something that relies on it's being perfectly "true" such as a level, a square, etc.
Yeah in this case the "best" mini-skid can run over $60k ... which is the price of about 5 of these yellow devils. I like a tool that lasts a lifetime, as a general rule, but that simply doesn't always work out. Good hearing from ya man
speaking of harbor freight, maybe they should get in on selling these things.
These days,too much is made in China used to be made in japan( which i hear is a better product!),so if you beleive in paying more for ,or to get a better product,forget that idea,I have a Dewalt skill saw,cost me 175$ Canadian,and the blade doesn't follow a straight line,everything made today is either way overpriced junk,or just low quality, use it a few times and fill up the land fill.
For example, Sany sells excavators from China,for around 5 grand ,but won't sell to just one person,but to American brokers,who tack on 45000$ to a cheap Chinese machine .8 or 1 ton minidigger, maybe the higher end stuff is better?
So,that 5000$ machine is being sold over here for 50,000$ for a small minidigger!
Add taxes,shipping,freight and freight forwarders,and then how much is it?
When I grew up,RCA record players and tvs had a reputation for quality, but the sold to Toshiba.So did a lot of product,but not now ,make it,bake it,and toss it out the door!
That hammer you buy at home depot costs less to make in China,then your cup of coffee at your local restaurant! Yet you'll pay 12$ or more for it,so because we're basically getting crappy stuff these days,if you think paying 100$ for a hammer that costs .01 cents worth of scrap,is a quality product,your highly mistaken!
Not to mention,your jobs are going to China,but as the bible says," In last days the dragon shall rise!"
China's symbol is the dragon,and we're feeding it money for junky products.
My neighbour has a small john deer tractor,he says it costs him 28000$ but the engine is made,guess where,China!
I will say they are good machinists,but your low budget equipement definitely has its drawbacks,poor quality fit and finish.
I just saw a youtube about a tractor convention,the sales guy ,says big name brand excavator companies are shipping there parts to China for assembly, but I bet you'll still pay big bux for that machine over here!
If you check the price of there wages,it about .14 cents to the US dollar, I personally think China is screwing us,and think we're stupid to pat there prices for there min diggers,a min excavator going to Africa costs less according ti one Chinese broker because it doesn't need an Epa engine,but I think he was lying..maybe!
And why do we need an epa lawn mower engine, with supposedly a catalytic converter?
@@davidrussell8795 very interesting... so basically what I'm hearing you say is that for most/many things/tools, etc. the difference that the harbor freight chinese stuff and the brand name chinese stuff is (almost) exactly the same quality and that the higher price of the brand name stuff is WAY out of line with the small difference (if any) of quality.
@@davidrussell8795 That entire JD is made in Asia as is every other brand of sub compact tractor. Not just the engine. Only the larger machines have enough margin to be made in the US. However I would rather support India and So. Korea vs China. If China doesn't have a civil war/revolution soon we are going to end up at war with them.
Very cool little machine. I was looking into mini skid steers a few months ago, but like you said they’re many many moneys. I’ve invested in other stuff this season, so the mini skid isn’t essential.
Having said that, it’s cool you have the grapple anyway, even if it’s heavy. You can at least drag brush with it. And as long as the bucket picks up logs (is stronger than you) then you’re golden.
Congratulations on the new purchase. You will make money with it. My work truck is 50 years old and I’ve made my money back over and over again since I’ve bought and modded it. Same with my wood chipper. It’s old, small, and it still cost a lot, but it has made me many many moneys, and has helped us be more efficient.
One day I’ll get bigger stuff…when I need it. I buy heavy equipment used for now, because that’s what my budget is. It’s still expensive, as you know. I also pay cash for everything; lots of guys buy new stuff but it’s either financed or on credit. I’m not into that. I only buy what I can afford, and then work my way up. That strategy hasn’t failed me yet.
Congrats again on the newest member of your ground crew. Have a good weekend 👍
My same strategy
I like that strategy man! Some guys are all about going into debt on fancy equipment and new stuff ... I got my work truck for 3k (it had been wrecked and wouldn't run) but some wrenching and TLC and it's been great. So keep those bills down and the money coming in! haha ... good stuff man
I literally just bought my first saw, hoping over this winter to get some climbing gear an ropes an in the spring hopefully get a easy job or two an get that hands on experience. Iam 40yrs old an been a janitor since i was 18, my resume is basically blank so applying for jobs kinda sucks so hopefully come spring I'll make my own "destiny" lol
@@wolverinebear5357 You can do it man! Take things slow and get a feel for it. I always advise A LOT of practice climbing without a saw before cutting
@@wolverinebear5357 Go for it. You'll find so much fulfillment working for yourself, even if it is more work.
It’s only 1,873 pounds (850Kg). That’s going to be great for low impact on customer’s lawns. We have a Deere 35G mini ex, and there are times that 8,000 poind machine can’t be used on a tree job because it would destroy their yard!
Yeah it’s gentle on the lawn as long as you don’t turn too fast …. That 8k beast can pull on a top I bet!
8,000 pounds is pretty light, I would say try plywood, but I can't imagine how you would use a mini-excavator on a tree job...
@@jacobcarter5923 I use it in tree work all the time. Moving 14 foot 3,000 pound logs to the dump trailer is a lot faster than bucking them into small enough pieces to maneuver by hand, or down to a size a mini-skid can lift.
Like Spencer, a lot of us aren’t far enough along to afford a chipper big enough to eat the stem wood, so hauling it off is the name of the game.
How much did you pay for it
@@jermaineglover4043 I bought nearly new for just over $40k. I do more small excacation jobs than I do tree work, and it’s the most used tool on our homestead.
The thing I've been thinking just about any of these ride on skid steers need is a counterweight like you've mentioned. I've been thinking the most modular way of doing so is buying your standard weight lifting plates with mounts, and then bolting/welding mounts to the back/sides of the machine and then you can add/remove weight as necessary.
It sure would be nice to be able to take them on-and-off like that. Someone else recommended a thick piece of plate back there that could come on-and-off. Either way it's MUCH NEEDED unless I can manage to gain 100lbs real quick :)
@metaspencer not going to lie man I was dying laughing at your description on the price of comparable skids. "Many many monies" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 so true
Just replace the stand with a heavier plate of metal
Maybe figuring out how to add a 20 gallon or so water tank made of thick plastic, should give you about 160 pounds and not be too hard to fill/drain as needed.
Kubota and bobcats mini skid steers the weights go in the track area towards the rear. one of them has an alternate mounting location but haven't seen it used .
One thing that has me hesitant about pushing for counter weights for our Kubota is these little things throw you around quite a bit. You can hit a good bump and lose a large rock out of the bucket and the machine will react in a way you probably won't expect other than part of the reaction is the machine going backwards almost teetering. It is so much worse when traveling backwards. The common reaction is to step off which is a hard reaction to not have but if you do you'll be hurting if you don'tb catch yourself quick enough. More counterweight just makes me think the reaction will happen that much quicker and more violent. And if you do find yourself between the machine and the ground that's even more weight pinning you in place. I think that's why Kubota and bobcat opt for the weight within the tracks, in order to make it more predictable and limit it's want to roll backwards.
Both the Kubota and bobcat (with the taller tracks in the rear) aren't any better with the platform bottoming out. Only difference really is the way it drives the tracks. Only occasionally does the sensor read that you are no longer on it, then you just need to override it to get going again.
I've been looking at old mini utility tractors with loader buckets on them Just for messing around the yard. Now you've got me hooked on one of these! I work for a municipality with every machine you can think of. Sucks when you come home and do everything by hand. I need some sort of gizmo, this might just be it, excellent video.
Yeah it’s a machine I use daily… can’t beat the ease of use
@@sherman207 We use every single thing we have, plus local government pays a fraction of the price as your average joe. State bid pricing.
@@sherman207 Teamsters baby 🥳 #Union4life.
I won't lie. As cool as this mini skedsteer is, I really like my Kubota l2501 compact tractor. Not that much heavier. Still pretty lawn friendly. Not that much more money. Way more versatile, except for tight areas, and way more lifting capacity/reach. But, can't load both it and debris in the dump trailer, which means an extra trip.
I like my larger Ford tractors too ... tractors are just SOO versatile, can lift more, etc. So I see whatcha mean. This is a pretty small little loader compared to a tractor ... looks like a new Kubota l2501 these days can get up around $20k, so more monies but you get what you pay for. Those are great machines.
I just ordered a forklift from China and right now is in the middle of the ocean traveling. I am actually a little overwhelmed regarding all the paperwork but look like the agent will works everything out for me
Yeah a good shipping agent helps. It’ll work out!
Did you get it ? Thinking of going this route.
@@j.p.fabrications Yes I did, the process was pretty easy, they practically did everything included the custom agent. The only problem was the fact that the forklift get some cosmetic damages during the shipping process, not a lot of them but quite disappointing, they have insurance and I am still dealing with them.
I bought a clamshell grapple for two reasons. 1 carries the load closer to the machine. 2, don't have to tip the bucket to unload when over the dump trailer. I also purchased a hose tender spring thing to keep the hoses up away from harm.
Sounds like a good unit! I have a similar grapple on my other mini skid now, but that spring doesn't always do the job ... looking for a better hose holder
Drill some holes in the side panels and cantalever a bracket behind the platform to hold tractor weights. Different weights for different tools and loads. That should roughly double the capacity. The machine has such a small footprint that tipping is a real concern, so don't over do it. The machine looks like it has the hydraulics and mechanics of a commercial zero turn mower. That may dictate the size which also means a slight upsize would probably double the cost.
I was out hauling logs with it today and could have used those weights you describe -- great idea. Thanks man
Loved the video. Was skeptical about the customs on a previous purchase but seeing it and knowing it's not a scam I just ordered the 2 ton! Way way better price than bobcat. Thanks
2 ton! that's awesome man ... yeah, can't beat the price ... I hope it works out great for ya!
1) From the time of order, how long until time of pickup at port? 2) How much in $ was un-disclosed costs at port (agent/customs/port costs/wait times)? 3) I worry about the drive sprocket grinding down if it's not lifted on a triangular track setup. wonder about finding tracks in the states, or will you have to go back to to the port to get new tracks? Tires are probably easier to find, but ... they don't have the pushing power either and don't hold up to thorns/rebar shards either. 4) A lot of the domestic loaders have leg pads/support for fatigue, this thing seems to be rather spartan at that. 5) Having to worry about learning some new 'control pattern' vs a standard skid steer pattern. 6) Bucket dump pin-height, to know how high you can lift a load to load a dump trailer over the side wall. It seems units like these are going for around $8000 give or take a few hundred for a gas engine model, some come with a 4:1 bucket. The Hysoon had a pretty good review. Diesel more expensive. Domestic models, I've priced around $32,000 before taxes which seems 'ridiculous' to me. (Bobcat, Kubuta, Vermeer, DitchWitch) Then again the Bobcats I have had last decades.
Hiya lots of good thoughts and questions there. Time from order to delivery was several months but that was also at a time when the Chinese government locked down the port of Shanghai, so ya never know how it would be in the future. Added costs was a few grand for sure with customs and whatnot. We'll have to see about the drive sprocket, tracks, and other elements over time -- only time will tell, really. Getting new parts may be tricky; again, time will tell. YOu mention leg pads: on this one your legs are up against the engine is you stand close! I stay back to keep the weight back LOL The domestic skids I''ve priced are well over $50k without attachments and I've had dealers not get back to me. Used machines are in the 20s and 30s where I am.
Few grand for customs???? Sorry.. Say what?
@@yogi799 Seems like customs and port officials want about 25% above what the machine cost from China, so be prepared to be slapped with fees galore especially if you are a rookie at the paperwork.
Bought an old mini skid steer, Rounder L700
40" bucket came with a newer grapple modified to fit. Fits in a lot of spaces a full size will not. Cheaped out on a set of clamp on forks., eventually will buy a dedicated fork attachment.
I also have some clamp on forks -- not perfect but they usually get the job done. That Rounder sounds great
Obviously, it will be a huge help to you and to get the job done without wearing yourself out, that's what really matters. It will be interesting to see how it stands the test of time though and are parts available for it in North America. I was wondering if you were going to pick up a round from that Ash tree! Definitely can't fault you for trying. Looking forward to seeing you use it in the future.
My thoughts exactly on the repairs: some aspects of the machine are common around here, and others not so much. So repairs and maintenance may be the biggest challenge
@@metaspencer Like you said, sometimes you have to take a chance and hope you get lucky. Whatever the future brings, I'm here for the ride! Have a great weekend.
From what I've seen, parts for these Chinese pieces of equipment shouldn't be hard to find and tractor supply or northern tool. I bet 98% of it is off the shelf parts
@@Will-tm5bj So far it looks that way with most of what's available in NA made in China.
It was so satisfying to hear the crunching noise of the sticks when you grappled them. I always have brush around, too many trees.
That crunnnnnnching sound. Yeah, it's a pretty good masher
Very surprised you bought that thing. I run a similar operation and bought a older Thomas 25g with 250hrs on it for 7k. Thought you’d buy an old dingo before that thing. Not saying it was the wrong move just surprised. Good luck. Love the channel.
Oh man sounds like you got a deal!! I’ve been looking for a used mini for 2 years now but haven’t found the right one so thought I’d try something else … we’ll see how it goes
I will buy every running machine of a quality brand you can sell me to that kind of money. A worn out pos unit still sells for about the 13-15k something like this currently sells for in my area. I say you either got the you bought from your dad deal or you are full of it. You would not belive the crap folks think is worth 20k+.
7k for 250 hours would only be if the 250 hours were at the bottom of a lake.
@@johnhogan3810 are you familiar with the 25g? It’s 18k brand new today max.
@@jasonjordan88 Where is that Thomas 25g made?
@@asusreviews think Canada
It is a log roller.
It can move the big rounds out to the more powerful loader.
Noodling is when you cut the big round in half using a chainsaw with the grain and parallel to the grain.
Yep, you said it man. Thanks
Can't believe you didn't throw a blue tarp over the top when you got it home or better still before you left the dock! Looking forward to seeing how it works out.
Yup you said it! All it needed was a tarp but I guess I got busy with too many things. Oh well, it survived :) Thanks for checking it out man
Blue tarps don't work you need red ones 😜
Why blue?
Prolly because they're pretty common at H Freight.@@danielmelcher5310
@@danielmelcher5310 There's kind of a color code, followed by most (but not all) manufacturers; the color suggests the thickness. Blue's thinnest, then yellow or orange, then green, then silver, and brown is thickest.
My Buddy and I run a small firewood business, and I'll be dipped, this thing would be amazing for our application! Just invested a BUNCH of monies into a Powersplit double station machine.... When it is working, it is a mind blower- that being said, when it doesn't, it's a big blue turd. This little skiddy would be a game changer, since the worst part about using the new rig is getting the rounds to the "lifts". Thanks for the great video... no candy-coating, just an honest review. Be safe, and take care!
That Powersplit sounds awesome. I use a traditional hydraulic splitter for our firewood and it tips over to do big rounds vertically. You definitely need a system for those big ones. Maybe a conveyor belt or chain hoist? Good hearing from ya!
very informative, I remember watching your post on the big cheap blue chainsaw. I like how you do your homework and stay up on maintaining your equipment. keep posting
Cool to hear that you remember that chainsaw! Yeah it's an odd marketplace these days with so many cheapo/knock-off products ... Thanks man
We have them here in Australia but there called Hysoon, I have the hy380 same as what you have but the wheeled version with the Kohler engine, iv put about 200 hours on it in the past 1-1.5 years since purchasing it new and it’s been great.. I got the 4 in one bucket also but has the same issue as the grapple you have it’s just way to heavy especially if trying to pick up a full bucket of dirt.. for the price you really can’t beat it
Interesting to hear. In North America the machines are more unusual but seem to be catching on a bit. Thanks for the info
What was the shipping and import costs into Australia?
@@mickjoebills I didn’t have to import one into Australia, there is a distributor that owns the “Hysoon” brand here in Australia that sells them direct to the public
Weld a couple stakes on your foot deck on back and put some old metal weights from barbell's. Perfect for counterweights for your grapple. Doesn't seem too bad. I'm an asphalt paving guy that has been in the construction industry for over 40 years and they all break! New, old and the best! I go for the best bang for the buck
I hear ya about everything breaking down. It's not if, but when. Thanks for the idea on those weights: a simple solution and I'm gonna do it.
@@metaspenceragreed and subbed 👍💯🇺🇲
I can't believe it has a 35hp vanguard. Great engine's ran one on my. Bandit 65 wood chipper for years no problems at all. Still running great when I sold it.
Yeah that was one of the things I really liked about the machine, as I'd heard good things about the engine. So far so good!
What a Great video and review, as always Spencer, thoroughness is definitely a talent you possess, Thank you for sharing and I am excited to see the little yellow beast fair you well for many years and in your videos to come.
Thanks for that! Yeah it's been a fun and interesting tool so far ... we'll see how it endures over time
@@metaspencer Welcome fellow Tree life member
I’ve operated one of these moving mulch and it worked great but I found it difficult to grade with because of the controls it’s hard to operate the bucked while in motion. Maybe someone else can but I found it difficult. But for the money it’s not a bad machine. After seeing the video this one had two sticks rather than 4 like the one I used had
4 sticks!! Gotta use your feet on that machine! Yeah this one has two and not to hard to control
Yup, that grapple is a little large. Think you are on to something making it a little smaller with flat steel and take the hoses and have them shortened. Other than that I think that little track can do work>
Good idea on having the hoses shortened: that's the way to go. Thanks for the tip man
@@metaspencer
The longer hoses may be for a different attachment and would possibly affect the resale value.
Little help. When picking up piles of brush you need to roll into them. Make piles about 5ft high and smash down with the grapple. Then open the grapple and come over the top like you would pick up with your hands basically and clamp down right before you hit the ground and then Curl up your pile and you'll make a cleaner pick.
Thanks for the tip! I've been getting a little better at it this week. My first few really flailed but they're getting more compact. thanks man
Could you imagine trying to return this if it didn't work when you got it home, seems very inconvenient going to a pier to pick anything up
Yeah no returns for sure!
The mount plate looks like a universal mini skid type mount. There's plenty of lightweight attachments in the market that will fit on it
I’ll have to start looking… thanks for the tip
Great video thatnk for showing us that thing. The grapple you got is a manure grapple made for cleaning out stalls and barns. A brush grapple isn't as sharp.
I've heard a few other guys call it a manure grapple. That's kind of funny but it works okay. I've still gotta mod that thing to make it better :)
Bigger is not always better. It's the same as "the more it costs, you get a better product". Everything has its pros and cons, as well as their intended uses.
Hey There Spencer, I just ordered one of these mini loaders too. Regarding the clearance through Customs, I'm actually a little familiar with the process since I used to work for a shipping company in New York, but that was 30 years ago. Since then I've lived in Orlando FL and have not touched shipments anymore... Anyways, could you let me know if you pre-cleared the machine (in which case you would've needed the paperwork upfront ahead of the arrival of the ship) or did you have to wait until the ship arrived in order to clear customs?
Mine is arriving in Miami, about 4 hours from where I live and I just want to make sure I only make one trip down there. hahahaha
Thanks Spencer!
Hey Buddy, I knew NOTHING about the process so you'll do great at it. Yes it was pre-cleared before leaving. I think Homeland security requires that now or something like that. The shipper took a fee at the port (I think it was about $800 for all kinds of weird stuff) and then my shipping agent took about the same amount of $$ for whatever they did. So there are some fees built in but still waaaaaay cheaper than a high-end machine. Email or message me with any other questions. I'm happy to share my experience. Cool that you're getting one!
@@metaspencer Cool man! Thank you for the info. I appreciate you!
That looks like a little great machine and for the price cant really go wrong. That Briggs and Stratton is a division of toyota. I had a 35 HP, and it was brilliant engine on a pressure washer
I didn't know B & S was part of Toyota -- it's interesting how so many seemingly distinct brands are related. I run some different chainsaw brands that are made by the same company. Thanks for the info!
@@metaspencer that's because it isn't "part of toyota" B&S is owned by KPS, a capital investment firm (who also owns Taylormade golf equipment and AM General). At one point Vanguard engines were built in Japan in a partnership with Dihatsu, but as of 2017 that's no longer the case. They are built in the US. Now that machine being made in China, ill almost bet that isn't a real Vanguard engine, rather a counterfeit
Interesting! Thanks for all the info
In total, what did you spend on it? The price of the machine, the price of having a shipping agent and such...
What is it's lifting capacity? I have a small landscaping and tree company. And I'm totally interested in this. The vermeeers and toros are like 30k
Hey man -- I didn't mention exact price in the video because prices change over time and videos last a while. This machine is about $12k right now, but with taxes and fees and freight and customs and all of that probably closer to $15k. If you can't pick it up at a coastal port shipping would be another charge. The name brand machines from dealers are over $50k ... as for lifting capacity it can lift right around 450 lbs. Vermeers and Toros are up over $50k last I checked
Wonder if you could get a smaller Toro grapple and put it on the tiny skid steer?
Your content never ceases to amaze! It's scary and hilarious at the same time! Glad you got this new ground crew helper, will save your - er, the ground crew's - arms and back for sure! Thanks for another great video!
Ooooo, I like that idea of creating a Franken-skid-steer by adding a Toro grapple. I think there's a way to make it work ... just gotta find one on the tree-guy black market. thanks for that idea! :)
You should be able to since it same mounting system but honestly I spend the money on a branch manger grapple and forks
And oh branch manger make a 38 hp stump grinder that hooks up to your machine and uses the low flow hydraulic system to swing for roughly 6k
@@kennethvanduzer5828 Those branch managers look pretty cool
@@metaspencer got one with power rotate makes life so much easier
Ever hear of a tarp?my question to you is: would you buy it again if you had it to do over?
Looks industrious anough to mount counter weight under the back.maby a couple of side saddle weights.
Still looks to small.
But from the aspect now you have a mobile hydraulic pto tool carrier.😉
This "tarp" you speak of -- sounds like a brilliant invention! :) Yeah I'd buy it again ... it's not the best mini skid steer out there by a long shot but the price was right for me and I use the dang thing just about every day. You're right about the weights for sure
@@metaspencer yeh I've seen the equipment sticker shock of the real ones.ive often felt like doing just what you did.
Sweet machine even with its limitations. Just for lifting big tree rounds I'm sure it was worth it.
So far so good ... it's got more power than me so I'm happy :)
Its horses for courses, as you say it lifts stuff you can't so from that perspective it's ideal. I think it would be really good for sites where your might have access issues and you limited for space.
Yeah it'll fit back into backyards without much access, so that's nice. Thanks for checking it out
I own a lot of equipment, including several of these exact Chinese mini skids in the gasoline and bigger brother diesel version. If you have any questions about them feel free to hit me up. They've suprisingly given us very little issues considering the price point. There are a hand full of importers around the US a person could pick one up for not much more money and without having to jump through the hoops of maritime shipping and customs. Great video! 👍🏻
That's great to hear! I don't know anyone else with this kind of equipment so was a bit hesitant ... so far so good man. I'll look up those dealers you mention as I'd like to get some more equipment in the future if possible. Thanks!
@@metaspencer Great video! Id really like to know more about your import experience and the vetting process for purchasing overseas. I'll try and send you a message on social media. Thanks for making this content!
@@jerrysaunders3672 Sounds good ... I'm happy to discuss it and as others have asked I should probably post a vid about it
How do I obtain one
@@jimgingericj9438 here's a link to the machine I bought ... www.alibaba.com/product-detail/skid-steer-loader_1600391587866.html?spm=a2747.manage.0.0.3b4171d21Akio2
Killdozer. That things awesome.
You might try a counter weight on it when using the grapple. Maybe a piece of armor plate on the platform you're standing on to offset the weight of the grapple like on a crane.
As for buying the cheap tool and hoping to get away with it, I'm the king of cheap. I went back to tree cutting when I was broke, so I had to start on a shoestring budget and being in my 60s I don't work a ton, so I don't earn a lot. I've been getting by now for 5 years on a little Echo CS 590 with a '24 bar as my only "big saw". Everything else I have are climbing saws.
To date that Timberwolf has managed to handle any job or tree I threw at it, and sometimes I get some big fat stuff so, yea... I think you made a very wise purchase. I'd love to get one of those things but still out of my budget. But maybe some day down the road I might look into getting one. Definitely a helpful tool to have.
Sounds like you've had some good experiences and developed some real wisdom about what works for you out there. Great to hear man.
It looks a bit like a body extension rather than a tool, but what a great body extension it turned out to be... Nice one.
It kinda feels like that once you get a feel for it ... easy to jump in and out of the exoskeleton :)
I know what you mean about buying stuff from China. Helped a friend buy a Diesel generator and it took forever to get and was damaged. You never mentioned price but by the time we shipped the thing and paid all the middlemen the cost was double. Still far cheaper than the real brand name. Worked fine once all the broken parts were replaced and loose bolts tightened.
That sounds like a bit of a fiasco and getting this thing here from China also took several months. China closed Shanghai due to Covid right in the middle of the deal, and that didn't help. With all that said, though, many "name brand" tools are made in the same factories anyway, so I don't always see a huge difference
@@metaspencer That generator with the Cummins clone engine runs great and looks exactly like the real deal. 25 Kw for about 3000 dollars by the time it arrived. The shippers had broken off a valve cover and bent the serpentine pulley, and some manifold bolts were loose so we ended up checking torque on everything including the bearing and head bolts. As you said the quality of parts looked about the same as a regular 4B engine.
@@chargermopar Good thing you knew how to get it back on track and running ... nice deal man
It is good to pay the least if you have the means (knowledge) and tools to repair and possibly improve it.
Yellow beast, welcome to the ground crew! 🎈
The ground crew is applauding:)
Great video mate!
What's your summary after a year of owning it? Wear and tear etc?
Would it handle day in and out shifting materials etc? Not digging.
Thanks.
Solid machine that can definitely get some work done. I had zero problems with it but bought a BIGGER machine for my business. I'd totally buy another one tho -- and they're on FB marketplace these days cheap
Here's a link to the machine in the video: www.alibaba.com/product-detail/skid-steer-loader_1600391587866.html?spm=a2747.manage.0.0.3b4171d21Akio2 ... And then here is a full account of my shipping process: ua-cam.com/video/eXZ_xZuLYso/v-deo.html
For the broke, ie, me!, I would love to have one of these. It is my only option! That being said, I would love it, and be better off with ot, than with none! THANK YOU! Let's get this process started!
@@wordswritteninred7171 I hear ya ... having "the best" machine would be great, but I had to do what actually made sense and was possible
Why would you add a weight to the operator platform? You are the weight you say the grapple bucket is too heavy. Well you can do what you did by pushing down on the bucket on a Vermeer you are the counterweight the tracks are not a Eliot they are a low track versus a high track and it doesn’t increase your ground clearance, the major difference is it gets your drives out of the dirt doesn’t increase your clearance what that cost 6 to 8 grand versus 40 to 80 for a brand name and only a select few are less than 36” my Vermeer is 54”or 48 with narrower tracks but then it cuts ruts from lack of flotation I guess I just don’t understand what you think you were buying as far as everything being drenched that’s on you from leaving it in the rain for as long as you did
@@jkmcp45 Yeah it's been a good machine so far for daily use, and the price was right. No more fish in the bucket these days :)
Awesome machine. Hopefully uncle Sam will buy me one in a month or 2.
Hi, this got me hooked, great introduction of this small helper! One question that would interest me is how would it do on climbs, what kind of elevation would be tollerable.
I've used it to haul logs up hill a few times now, and it's done great. You can see it in this vid: ua-cam.com/video/NH9irkUnJwI/v-deo.html ... with that said, I'm always careful not to go sideways on a hill and tend to back up the hill for safety. Not a perfect machine by any means, but it gets the job done
Very cool beast.
It would definitely help load the logs, which smashes the brush, which means you could get a larger load per trip.
But…
I can’t let go of the money. It’s a problem.
Stay safe
I hear ya man ... every machine is its own potential money pit and also a way to get divorced from the work itself. Absolutely :)
I rented a dingo tx1000 machine for several weekends to do the final grading in my back yard after I had an in ground pool put in this past summer. I removed 60 yards of rock hard clay with it (after jackhammering the surface to break they the top 6-12 inches of it). This was all in a tight space where the width of a big skidsteer just wouldn’t fit. Awesome awesome little machine, and would love to own one for my diy house projects, but I was absolutely floored when I checked the price of one. Really makes me want to get into making these things. They are actually very simple machines. Profit margin must be huge on them for companies like toro, bobcat etc.
Yeah that Dingo is a great machine -- tons of power. Gotta admit that I'm a bit jealous of the in ground pool :)
@@metaspencer that dingo was such a sweet machine, I also drilled about 50-12inch wide post holes with it in a short time. It honestly doesn’t look that much more powerful that the machine you have here. The dingo could not dig into the clay of my yard without me jackhammering the surface first (cheap 200dollar chinese jackhammer that is now a paperweight, but did get the job done before it died) The machine you have in this video would be more than enough for the landscaping I have left to do on my pool build. They are just so useful. As you eluded to in your video, one of the best parts of the stand-on machines is you can be super precise with the attachments, the standing position gives such good visibility of what your doing.
@@S4NORICE You said it: I use mine just about every day around our farm. Super handy
@@metaspencer have the mechanicals of the machine held up pretty good thus far?
@@S4NORICE It's been great so far. Like all equipment it will eventually need work, that's always the case, but it's a pretty simple machine overall. Cold starts all winter have impressed me
So many things could have gone wrong with that unloading :-) Glad it all went well though Spence.
Hope the machine lasts for a good long time.
My old man cheaped out on a mini excavator from China and we have serious regrets.
At least yours came with a Briggs and Stratton engine, we had to replace the diesel engine ours came with :-(
Bummer to hear about that story -- but I'm not surprised. All equipment fails at some time, some sooner than others. Time will tell with this one
@@metaspencer do you buy it directly form that website in your link
@@jackson6.083 Yep, that link takes you to the sales guy I worked with. Just gotta pay through Alibaba then pay another $3k or so for customs and importing stuff
So what was the exact price that you paid for this little machine minus your time and gas to grab it? Would you buy another machine like this again if you had to? Does that manufacturer have other little equipment as well that you considered?
I didn't mention exact price in the video because prices change over time and videos last a while. This machine is $12k right now, but but taxes and fees and freight and customs and all of that probably closer to $15k. If you can't pick it up at a coastal port shipping would be another charge. The name brand machines from dealers are over $50k ... As for if I'd do it again I'd have to tell you in a year after steady use. Only time will tell. So far I'm happy with it. The manufactuer had some other stuff but I wanted a small, light loader
Should be able to put that on the flatbed and still haul the trailer, presuming it's not 4000lbs.
I set my vermeer stx 30 stump grinder on my flatbed and turn it sideways in the front by the headache rack.
At that point hookup the gooseneck and load the Kubota R420.
And your not joking about many many bucks for one of those minis.
What ultimately did it run you to purchase it? I'm wanting one but not willing to drop 25k on it, this machine might be a perfect addition to my arsenal.
It is impossible to have one machine that would do it all..I like the content man..thank you
How do you get the stump grinder up there? Do you use a ramp?
@@BRIDGEBURNERSTV lift it with the loader, I don't use the little grinder much at all anymore. Always have the loader with me with the clamshell bucket and forks.
Forks for the grinder and cleanup with the bucket
That sounds like a great setup man ... very economical. The price for one of these yellow bad boys is about $12k out of the gate, but after paying fees and customs charges and all of that it's a few grand more. I like that you have a gooseneck! When I built my flatbed I should have fabricated a gooseneck hatch ...
“I keep a little brush handy” 😅
hahahaha! I showed Melissa that part and she said something like "Oh boy if they ONLY knew how much" :)
They are usually shipped without the fluids in them and it will likely be out of engine oil and guel. I'm only saying that because I didn't notice you put in any oil just fuel
it happened to have oil in it ... changed it though within the first hour or two just to make sure the lube was legit and clean
Smart dude, backs don't last forever
Big lifter!!
How do you like this machine after a year of use? Any major issues or concerns come up? I have been looking at one of these that comes with a snow blower attachment. I haven't found anybody that has reviewed the snow blower yet but I would assume it would work pretty well as long as the skid steer holds up.
I have really liked the machine -- it's one heck of a lifter. With that said I did end up getting a second heavier and more powerful machine because I lift a lot of heavy logs. I haven't used the snow blower but sounds awesome
Boys a China Skid, picks it up from customs and then leaves it in the rain for two days without throwing a tarp over it. Excuse me but am I watching a video of myself?
Had a funeral to go to out of state before that rain came in -- shoulda tarped it for sure
Hows it drag or tow things? Back wards and or forwards? Might be good for snow removal as well. Very cool new toy. (I call all my tools and equipment my toys... Not an insult)
Tried to add this to my comment but it wouldn't let me.
I see you've had it awhile now. How's it holding up? Any major issues? And your opinion now?
Hey buddy -- this machine is really great for lifting and moving heavy stuff around, and I've dragged plenty of trees (backwards) with it. With that said I now have a much bigger mini skid as well just because it's heavier. The prices are much lower these days on the machine in the vid
The heavier you are the more you can pick up with it. Sounds like a good reason to eat more:)
Haha exactly! Backweight needed!
@@metaspencer
Perhaps it needs two operators to keep it a lightweight machine.
Bought a new Bobcat MT100 and it’s a beast. I’ve lifted 1300 lbs(only rated at 1K) but it lifted it fairly easily. It’s way beyond these el cheapo machines but I paid 39K in fairness. I’m mad yours has a horn and lights. Mine doesn’t!
My horn may be great, but your Bobcat is amazing. That's the machine I wanted but they're well over 50k these days. Great machine though
There is a bigger version that has the same specs as your bobcat....also has Kubota diesel engine.....1/4 of the price of the bobcat 😂
Kill video sir. As usual. 🪓🤙
Thanks buddy
It did pretty good. I'm impressed!
Thanks man
❤️👍👍👍
Great in-depth video. Are you able to share what is the total cost including shipping? How long does it take to get to you? Can I do the paperwork by email for the shipping? Are you able to fix it if it breaks or order parts if a part breaks?
I didn't mention exact price in the video because prices change over time and videos last a while. This machine is about $12k right now, but but taxes and fees and freight and customs and all of that probably closer to $15k. If you can't pick it up at a coastal port shipping would be another charge. The name brand machines from dealers are over $50k ... here’s a link to the loader I got so you can see the specs and all that: www.alibaba.com/product-detail/skid-steer-loader_1600391587866.html?spm=a2747.manage.0.0.3b4171d21Akio2 ... as far as time it took a few months to arrive but that had to do with China shutting down the port of Shanghai. But it's not a super quick process for sure ... as for parts I'll just have to see how it goes! it does run on a Briggs and Stratton engine :)
@@metaspencer Thanks. I wonder where I could get a good used one from. Do you know anybody? Just kidding. Again great video, thank you for posting and thank you for responding.
@@4WithHope haha :)
Curious about the specifics with shipping/customs. There’s US distributors of the Chinese equipment. Would like to crunch numbers and see if it makes sense to buy from a US distributor vs from the manufacturer directly
I didn't know about the US distributors so good thinking. I didn't mention exact price in the video because prices change over time and videos last a while. This machine is about $12k right now, but but taxes and fees and freight and customs and all of that probably closer to $15k. If you can't pick it up at a coastal port shipping would be another charge. The name brand machines from dealers are over $50k ... here’s a link to the loader I got so you can see the specs and all that: www.alibaba.com/product-detail/skid-steer-loader_1600391587866.html?spm=a2747.manage.0.0.3b4171d21Akio2
Current cost $2,990.00 is this correct?
@@danielpais7306 That sounds about right for the import fees, taxes, etc -- but you've gotta realize that it depends on which port you ship to, which shipper is used, which shipping agent you use, etc. So it's not a fixed price kind of thing
@@metaspencer how much is the sticker price of the unit?
@@danielpais7306 Check the link I put in the description because it might have changed, but i think it's about $10k or $12k
Hey man- love the video. Extremely helpful as I have recently bought some land and will need machinery to perform different types of work. Couple things here:
- I may have missed it but is yours the 13 hp or 23?
-we’re you able to get product under 4K? I’be been talking with reps on alibaba and it seems that the listed price of the machine keeps getting cranked up whenever we come to a final sale. I was planning on picking up at Houston port to cut delivery costs.
Thanks man
Hey buddy, that land sounds like it's gonna be great! This machine is 23 hp with pretty good lifting power (around 500lbs). Paid 9k for the machine and 3k in shipping and fees, but prices have come down since then. I'd estimate 10k total these days with the chinese currency down
Boxer has some smaller mini skids that I actually think would be comparable in price when it's all said and done. I got a heck of a deal on a Kubota bx2650 for 6k and it looks more capable all around then that machine. For everything you used that machine for in the vid, I bet you would be happier with a sub compact tractor.
That Kubota of yours sounds like a great machine! I have a buddy with a Boxer that he likes. This one is around $12k new and the Boxers are more, but probably better in a lot of ways. I have a couple of tractors that are great but just hard to transport to jobs
@@metaspencer Its been about 6 years since I've really looked at mini skids much. I didn't know morbark bought boxer. I thought they use to make a very small unit under 20k. Smallest I see now is the 320 and they don't make something that small now. I see a couple for sale used in the high teens. I've rented a dingo a couple of times and I use to want a mini skid. Then my friend bought a kubota bx 2370 and I was hooked. They are way faster, and do basically no damage to the turf. As far as trailering its no different than a mini skid. weight, length, and width is not that much different. I can fit the bx, a 3 point rake, and my kubota zd331 72 inch mower on a 20ft trailer. The loads overhangs the trailer and the bucket sits on the trailer tongue. The downsides of a sub-compactor tractor are you need more room to turn, you won't have the aux hydro flow, and you won't match the lifting capacity on a small mini skid. the bx does have more capacity than the infront though.
@@JCLawn51 That tractor sounds like a WORKhorse ... awesome setup man
Adorable; I want one.
Hilarious that the bucket held water - and all the manuals. That operator platform needs to be at least a foot longer.
yeah not the perfect machine but the price was right
How you like this for tree removals? Seems like it could help in loading.. I was thinking about a mini excavator instead as it can lift higher and dig.
Yeah I don't take it out on every job and don't find it saves me time when moving brush ... but for big heavy stuff it's GREAT to have on site and makes so much possible. Really excellent for logs
@@metaspencer Thanks bro. Stay safe up there..
Hello, tell me how much money it cost you, completely with all the expenses, I don’t understand your language, thanks for the answer.
$12,000 USD
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@@metaspencerChrist brotha, these are selling for 5500 CAD from the auction where I am.
@@MannPropertyServices Prices have come waaaaay down. I've seen them even cheaper than that on FB Marketplace
How COOL Spencer that will be very handy!
Thanks Loren!
CN you please tell us the price. Not sure why the secrecy when it came to how much it cost and how much. Name brand one cost. If you could, provide the link to order as well?
Prices change so I didn’t post it. About 2k now in china. I paid 10. Cheaper now on fb marketplace
Link in the description
You should weld on a pair of hooks on the side/rear to weigh the unit down. I think I’d like to get one!!
I agree with you about the weight ... a little bit would go a long way (like 50lbs)
Why do you need this if you have a full tractor? (I'm not trying to be a know-it-all, I'm curious what I'm missing)
To easily transport to jobs and get into tight spaces. It also does cleaner finish work on gravel and dirt than my tractor. Tractor lifts more tho
i have been looking at getting one of these and a snow blower attachment for year-round use
that sounds like a pretty good setup ... they're pretty good in the snow with those tracks
A short video break down of purchasing price , shipping price, importingprice ect. Would be amazing!
I've had that request from a few others, so have gotta put it together when a get a free second. Thanks for the encouragement
After I watched this video I decided to not cheep out and got the Bobcat MT100 wow what an awesome machine, I haven’t found a con yet! Thank you!
Good choice man -- I've hears sooooo many good things about that beast of a machine. If you've got those big bucks, it sounds worth it for sure.
I like this guy he’s pretty funny, also its admirable just how many of people’s comments he has replied to
Hey look, another comment and chance to reply! Much appreciated and thanks for checking out the machine
I'm a college student in Houghton Michigan where we get 200-300" of snow every winter. Depending on the cost, this may be worth the investment in clearing our driveway and maybe performing some other work to make some money. Is there a way to find where you purchased this to see if it would be feasible? Thanks!
You'll find a link to the machine in the description below the video -- the machine itself is about $9k but you've gotta add on various customs fees and shipping and all that. Good luck with it!
I just got a new one for my 1/2 acre. Gravel, grading, brush clearing, moving block - total mini-beast. Saved my back and countless hours of shoveling.
I hear ya -- saves the back and gets A LOT done
They may be small and have a much smaller capacity compared to a normal sized skid steer but standing in the open and being able to see around you without obstructions really increases the users comfort and piece of mind that they are clear of obstructions and free to move. We had many jobs where we would use the mini skid steer even though the full size would of fit because when running the mini skid steer i don't have to run within 3 inches of instructions at a snails pace unlike when trying squeeze in our SSV75. I like to have all the equipment on site but that's just not practical.
Great point man
What state are you located in? What was the final cost with out the grapple? I could use this to move wasted goat hay / manure.
I'm in New York State and the machine runs around $12k ... I think that's without the grapple. There are some added shipping fees that might push it closer to $15k. You'll see a link in the description
Thanks for making the video not a lot of information out there about these machines. Have you had any issues with cold starting?
It has a Vanguard engine from Briggs and Stratton and I haven't had any trouble with it, but cold starts take a bit of cranking for sure. Always fires up tho
after all was said and done, how much was it out of pocket, and can you supply links to the site you bought it from?
Link in the description… 12k in the end
I noticed the grapple is five prong and heavy. Is it within your capacity to lop off the ends and make it a three prong? This would cut weight and would still function more less the same due to the hydraulics. Help me out if I’m off point. Genuinely curious on this
I do a lot of metal and fabrication work so your ideas make sense -- anything to lighten it would be an improvement. Thanks for the ideas
For a counterweight I would replace the driver's stand with 1" plate steel It'll take a little fabricating If you make it strong enough you could put a hole for a trailer ball
Cool idea -- and I've got some plate around. I like that option because it wouldn't get in the way or be visible. Thanks man
@@metaspencer I had thought of the plate as I went down through the replies, bur would a 1" or so diameter bar at the back to take some counterweights that would also act as wheels. Size the counterweights so that when sitting of level ground they would be 1-2 inches above the ground. That way they would keep the platform from digging in as you back up and would have the weight further back so they would not have to be as heavy as a weight mounted closer to the machine.
Do you get fed up with people who keep asking about the cost even though put a link to the machine up front.
@@Rxxx-ve4lj Oh man, that idea of weight/wheels is really cool. I haven't modded the machine yet with any weights -- cool concept. It's funny how so many people ask about the price: you know how it is on UA-cam ... people just kinda scan through things and miss a lot, so I understand. Thanks for that idea!
What kind of packaging for outdoor equipment lets things get waterlogged?
You said it!
Who's job was it to check for rain on the drive home?
So how much did you pay for rhe machine and attachments shipped? Is it still hooding up and would you recommend it for a small tiny landscape company juat starting, does it feel reliable after using it a while. Thanks for your video.
I still use it daily and it's great ... steady lifter day-in and day-out. Cost is currently about $9k for the machine and $3k to get it to the port. For my small biz it's been a money maker for sure. 3 day jobs can get done in 1 day sometimes, thanks to the machine
@@metaspencer wow!! Good investment then. Glad it worked out for ya brother!!
The Giant mini articulating loader is the way to go! 3k lbs, can easily lift 2k. Turf tires, extending boom to load dump truck. Expensive, but cheaper and more reliable than an employee
Those look pretty amazing though I haven't tested one yet. Great lifting power and mobility
For the best tool stuff I think that depends a lot about what it's for and how hard that job is and how much easier it will make something for you. That sounds obvious but here's my example: I'm pretty bad in the tree still so anything that makes me fumble less, feel safer, or is lighter and faster has a lot of value for me. If I was in super good shape maybe aluminum geckos don't matter. If I had massive arms maybe I don't have a 2511t and use the 355t more often. Things like that. I threw down for a nice Kubota for a different reason. I know it will last and I know it has resale. I had an LS that depreciated very quickly. That said all my 18v tools are ryobi and they are perfect for me /ramble
That Kubota sounds terrific ... way to go man!
So how does one go about getting a shipping agent? And did you just call the factory in China or use a web site? I'm on a budget and would like get one with the thought if I get 3 or 4 years worth of work pit of it it will pay for itself and hopefully I will be in a position to get a "better" one at that point
I started out by messaging the company through the link I provided. The guy on the other end was pretty nice and reliable. He had some customs forms for me to fill out when it shipped ... then there is the shipping company to pay (that was about a grand) and I got a shipping agent through a list the port provided. That also took a few phone calls. So it's not a simple process but I'm glad I did it
@@metaspencer thank you! I will investigate further, it's a little more comforting knowing others have done this and it worked out for them!!
Dude! I just found your channel. I'm a Forestry Student in Wales, UK. I really enjoy your videos !
Forestry and Wales -- two great things together. Excellent
@@metaspencer absolutely. ✌🏼
My China mini skidsteer came in! Cougar! Thanks for the Information on ordering procedures and step! It helped me a lot!
My man got the Cougar! Awesome to hear ... it's gonna be a great tool for ya I bet :)
@@metaspencer It was an uphill battle from port to port and shipping charges for each leg and with the help of the customs clearance agent I had to hire! But it’s here in Hawaii! Thank you again!
You could always find somewhere to weld a short tube of steel in the back on either side to add a few olympic 45lb weight plates. would be interesting to add an extra 90 lb to each side and re test claw only
those weights would be nice -- easy on-and-off
I have a similar small grapple on my TYM sub-kompakt. I think they use the same unit with different QuikkAttach mounts. Bekuzz I'm pretty sure they are the same dimensions
I'll have to look into some other attachments ... it's cool that these are compatible with so many tools and each other.
@@metaspencer man. They make konversion plates between the mini SSQA and the standard. I will be buying a mini grapple as soon as my standard sized SSQA weld plate arrives. Then burning a 48" mini grapple onto it.
My TYM doesn't have the greatest lift power. So i figure lighter is better and just use akkordingly. I really appreciate the rake type grapple bekuzz you kan plow with them like a dozer so to illustrate.
@@subixbarbarasson6052 sounds good!
awesome review. What about parts and maintenance? where would you take it and do parts here in America work? or do you have to order from them all the time?
I'm not too worried about the parts -- it's a pretty simple machine and the engine is Briggs and Straton. The tracks can be ordered, and everything else looks pretty standard. But if you're looking for a machine you can take back to the dealer for repairs, this definitely isn't it!