Fixing Skylake, Haswell, and Ivy Bridge CPU temps: IHS removal

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  • Опубліковано 2 сер 2012
  • UPDATE 09/01/2015: Skylake CPUs are available now, and it looks like Intel did not change the manufacturing process of the thermal paste. Skylake still uses paste instead of solder between the IHS and die.
    UPDATE 06/02/13: Haswell just launched, and this method still applies. The CPU in the video is an Ivy Bridge, but the delidding of Haswell still applies.
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    Intro and background: With this generation of Intel processors, Intel decided to cut corners and use very cheap TIM (thermal interface material) between the bare CPU die and the top IHS (integrated heat spreader). Cheap TIM does not transfer heat away from the die well, that's why Ivy Bridge processor heat up very fast, especially when overclocking. With Sandy Bridge and earlier CPU's, Intel used fluxless soldering between the CPU die and the IHS, so they do not have this problem.
    By taking the IHS off of Ivy Bridge processors to apply a better TIM, you can get a significant reduction in temperatures without needing additional cooling hardware. As a result from this simple mod, you may get a higher max overclock, more stable results, or reduction in fan noise for a quieter computer.
    Do not try this with Sandy Bridge or earlier processor generations since they are soldered on, and much harder to remove the IHS.
    INDEX
    00:15 - temps before mod
    02:24 - removing the IHS
    10:02 - cleaning old stock thermal paste
    12:56 - cleaning sealant glue
    15:54 - applying new thermal paste
    17:27 - installation into motherboard
    20:27 - concluding temp results
    As of 09/02/2015, here are some high end processors that this works on:
    i7-6700k
    i5-6600k
    i7-4790k
    i5-4690k
    i7-4770k
    i5-4670k
    i7-3770k
    i5-3570k
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  • @rapper250
    @rapper250 9 років тому +106

    What the fuck is wrong with Intel? How could they fuck up such simple things?

    • @nukfauxsho
      @nukfauxsho 9 років тому +6

      rapper250
      They designed it this way on purpose. I have no idea why they used this TIM, but it does make me wonder if they do it on purpose.

    • @SilvaDreams
      @SilvaDreams 9 років тому

      +NOMADSPY After 5 years I'd be wanting a new CPU anyways just to keep up with the modern speeds. I like playing my games =p

    • @mikeolafstein6267
      @mikeolafstein6267 8 років тому +1

      +rapper250 I think because there is no competition and because it is cheaper

    • @SilvaDreams
      @SilvaDreams 8 років тому +2

      iNonentity More then likely it was just a bad batch of paste as it is just a few specific chips that suffer from this problem.
      Intel can control the quality of the chips themselves.. But they don't control the quality of the paste delivered to them in bulk.

    • @SilvaDreams
      @SilvaDreams 8 років тому +1

      iNonentity They do check the chips themselves, though it's not like they give them the massive run through we eventually do, plus it could be inconsistencies in the paste itself thus why some people never have this issue yet others do.

  • @ladamyre1
    @ladamyre1 9 років тому +37

    I don't understand the critics here. The guy is showing us that if you're careful, you CAN remove the heat spreader and NOT hurt the processor. Furthermore, he's PROVING that Intel is putting poor TIM on their processors. The shit that Intel puts on the chip runs hotter than the stuff he used on the coolest running cores! He got a 5 degree drop in temps on those coolest cores, not to mention fixing the disparity of the stock temps. Now all the cores are running the same 5 degrees cooler than Intel is giving us. This kid should be getting a medal from us, not criticism.
    RMA? Since he proved to us Intel has a quality control problem, AND that they're using cheap-ass TIM, why would you roll the dice with another processor and maybe wind up with something worse? If you CAN do this, why wouldn't you, especially since you'll wind up with something better than the best quality processor that Intel can give you?
    You guys criticizing him must be Intel worshipers, not just fan boys. He's offended you by showing you your god is flawed.

    • @THEisaacG
      @THEisaacG 9 років тому +1

      ladamyre1 encore! encore! well said, sir. I wish I could have just paid an extra $5 or $10 bucks for my CPU so Intel could have just used quality thermal paste to freaking begin with.

  • @allanmeineche
    @allanmeineche 10 років тому +12

    I've been messing around with computers since the mid 90's and I have to say - it was i real pleasure to watch your video. Very educational and simple. I can't remember the last time I made it through a 20 min "tutorial" on UA-cam. Just wanted to say, from a guy who did the very same thing [mod] with/to his old Northwoods, kudos to you :-)

  • @GtsAntoni1
    @GtsAntoni1 5 років тому +7

    I’ve come from the future to tell you that you did a great job for the time. Imo the vice method was better, and your cleaning metrology could have been improved, but overall damned impressive. Well done sir.

    • @fridaycaliforniaa236
      @fridaycaliforniaa236 Рік тому +1

      Sure ! And for this "budget" I'd say it's impressive. Just needed some basic things everybody can find in his house. Very well done =)

  • @JJCharlier
    @JJCharlier 10 років тому +3

    I have try to open my cpu with the razor but I failed. I stopped after trying during one hour and having used three blades.
    The funny thing is that now, the highest temp I get at full load is 10 ° less than before (62°), is it due to little air injection inside the cpu?

    • @JJCharlier
      @JJCharlier 10 років тому

      My processor is i3-4330

  • @TheUniversalEyes
    @TheUniversalEyes 8 років тому +12

    You should have put the heat spreader back on properly, you use RTV sealant, which is silicon and is what Intel used to begin with. It can handle temps far greater than any cpu will create. In fact, if anyone is reading this, make sure you wash your hands before doing this, don't touch the pins or pad on your cpu, make sure you are grounded, use a new razor blade for removing the cpu heat spreader, completely clean both surfaces with 99% alcohol, remove the old silicon sealant, replace with rtv sealant (it's typically black) and use a quality thermal compound, preferably not crap mx-2, nowadays there is better out there. Once you get it all ready to go, apply the rtv then set something heavy on top of it (like a book or clothing iron) and let the rtv cure for about 6 hours, the longer the better. Just make sure whatever you set the cpu on is extremely clean. a sheet of glass would be best.

    • @poiuytrewq8ff
      @poiuytrewq8ff 7 років тому +3

      Or just not use a heatspreader, they never used em for early socket p3's and athlon/durons and we never had problems mounting directly to the die back then (well some people were dummies and damagaged/chipped the die) - or mobile processors for that matter. just make sure the hs is mounted flat and touque it up evenly and in steps.

  • @amiman23
    @amiman23 9 років тому +1

    very well done! your patience and skill was pleasant to watch I have the same chip,cooler and MB and will try it myself as I also have large discrepancies in my core temps

  • @838Frank
    @838Frank 9 років тому

    Thank you so much for making this video. I'm using an i7-4770K and I've noticed that there is an 8 degree difference at load between core 0 and core 3.

  • @ChaotiX1
    @ChaotiX1 8 років тому +13

    Last time I used a utility knife to delid a processor, it slipped and I sliced right through the tip of my finger.
    Will never do that again.

    • @taradead
      @taradead 7 років тому +1

      yeah, was just about to write " good way to eff up your CPU and slice the shit out of a tendon at the same time".

  • @tehhaldiniho
    @tehhaldiniho 9 років тому +44

    man did you need some alcohol solution..

    • @MattHoffmannn
      @MattHoffmannn 9 років тому +1

      ***** The heck? Where did that come from? all he said was he needed some Isypropyl alcohol. It would have helped if he had some on hand. I'm sure the guy posting the vid knew that too. Sheesh.

    • @AthruZGaming
      @AthruZGaming 9 років тому +1

      Molex I 100% agree. Even pro's risk cpu damage when performing a "delid". H100i by Corsair all day!

    • @scotiousnevious9038
      @scotiousnevious9038 9 років тому +1

      So magical Oh no he isen't using a microfiber clothe you gonna cry about that too?

    • @tehhaldiniho
      @tehhaldiniho 9 років тому +4

      Scotious Nevious no, but im gona cry about those extra e's in your comment

    • @scotiousnevious9038
      @scotiousnevious9038 9 років тому

      I don't even remember this sorry man.

  • @MineTheSkyrimDimonds
    @MineTheSkyrimDimonds 9 років тому +1

    your thermal paste collection impresses me

  • @chriss4365
    @chriss4365 4 роки тому

    so if you have an older cpu should you remove the stock plate by intel and add new paste their? Each core on my old core 2 quad is reading different temps which is concerning. They max at around 60c.

  • @JoshVC
    @JoshVC 10 років тому +10

    I can see myself shredding my fingers with that razor lol. But amazing results lol!

  • @SkyfaII28
    @SkyfaII28 8 років тому +3

    Is it better to remove the old paste with rubbing alc or just like you did with a tissue?

    • @anthony5844
      @anthony5844 8 років тому

      its better to use alcohall its wven better not not take a razor to it and let it chill at such high temps

    • @anthony5844
      @anthony5844 8 років тому +2

      +Anthony Najera also use coffee filters

  • @QuantumWrench
    @QuantumWrench 8 років тому

    Amazing.
    I was sure that processor was doomed. Seeing the pcb bend under pressured cutting, undue stress for sure. However, the procedure you used did the trick. Getting the temps down 30~40 degrees on the hot cores was an amazing result.

  • @laptopDoctorKZN
    @laptopDoctorKZN 8 років тому

    Hi I have done as u have and my temp dropped 20 deg . Thank you so much for ur video. I used some sikaflex to stick it back and now it's perfect Wayne

  • @flyguyz285
    @flyguyz285 9 років тому +3

    Excellent video! Why companies continue to cheap out on these high end processors is beyond me.

  • @mythek
    @mythek 8 років тому +4

    nice! just FYI for those who want to delid their 4770k, please do it very very slowly, take your time. I attempted to do this last night, i was really careful all the way until the end. I got impatient and used more force than I was supposed to and cracked the CPU Die. Needless to say I had to dish out $300 to buy another CPU -_- Hopefully you guys can avoid this mistake by learning it from my stupidity. cheers :)

  • @dannyl6507
    @dannyl6507 7 років тому +1

    i dont know what i like better, the results or the excel spreadsheet.. great job on both!

  • @wakata22
    @wakata22 10 років тому

    Perfect explanation! Thanks for this great lesson...

  • @bcerrati
    @bcerrati 9 років тому +4

    You got mad balls dood!!! Excellent +1

  • @e2e2e
    @e2e2e 10 років тому +18

    The new method is the vice method. Clamp the IHS into a vice, and firmly hit the PCB with a hammer. It'll just pop off.. I greatly recommend the clamp method over the razor method, I have done it to multiple CPUs without any problems

    • @TrinityAlex
      @TrinityAlex 10 років тому +27

      Fuck me, I thought you were joking...

    • @e2e2e
      @e2e2e 10 років тому +1

      ***** hehe

    • @WeGotBellys
      @WeGotBellys 10 років тому

      What type of lock do you use to hit pcb with

    • @GratedArseCheeks
      @GratedArseCheeks 10 років тому +12

      DjGalm We never heard of him since...

    • @astrixau8928
      @astrixau8928 10 років тому +1

      Ranstead Moons LOL

  • @DELANYR94
    @DELANYR94 9 років тому

    hey i got an older q6700 and it just runs hot as hell would this be a good option? i also got a new 5930k gaming build but that q6700 is my media pc now

  • @kaneBHD
    @kaneBHD 10 років тому

    Would it matter at all if the top part of the pcb say way off to the side would get a micro scratch or 2, like the part that isnt covered by the cpu lid?

  • @thefilmdirector1
    @thefilmdirector1 8 років тому +28

    26 to 27c. jesus i get hot at 23.

    • @AngelGomez-if5un
      @AngelGomez-if5un 8 років тому

      +thefilmdirector1 I get hot at 36c, I live in a very warm place :c

    • @rampage3337
      @rampage3337 8 років тому

      +angel chingon my cpy stays att 34c but ones i kind of fucked upp and presses the OC button (overclock) and im useing the stock cooler on my procesor thats known for being hot aka AMD

    • @AngelGomez-if5un
      @AngelGomez-if5un 8 років тому

      +swedish gaming I don't think is a good idea to overclock with the stock cooler

    • @TheBlork74
      @TheBlork74 8 років тому +2

      +thefilmdirector1 it's always here 16 - 18 deg C

    • @GuilhermeBianeck
      @GuilhermeBianeck 8 років тому +1

      +Mark Schulz IV 30~40 in Brazil, Suck it

  • @LMPGames
    @LMPGames 9 років тому +11

    Don't do this with a 5960X and possibly the K I7 as well. The IHS is soldered on and you will destroy your cpu trying this.

    • @LMPGames
      @LMPGames 9 років тому

      Cody Brown
      I was talking about the 5930k. Just to update my post, both the 5930K and 5820k are soldered as well (each of the I7 processors).

    • @taiefmiah
      @taiefmiah 9 років тому

      Cody Brown you also wouldn't want to try this with amd processes if they were Tim and not soldered as the pins are on the cpu

    • @bryand.5240
      @bryand.5240 8 років тому +1

      +Laughing Man Productions² extreme series and xeons are not affected by this, only the consumer level chips, so 4829,4930,4960,5820,5930, and 5960x are all soldered

    • @MegaAgente17
      @MegaAgente17 8 років тому

      +Axel Shark I was planning on doind this to my 4690K, just because i do overclock :D!! But i think i dont need it at all just because mine is running at 4.7Ghz/1.295v 53c when playing games and 63c on stress :)

  • @GameProgrammer79
    @GameProgrammer79 10 років тому

    really i could not belive when i saw the results.. very very nice experiment indeed.. very good work..

  • @damirh6714
    @damirh6714 10 років тому

    Is mx-2 good choice for this, Does it degrade over time or the temperatures are the same as first day? Thanks!

  • @ViolentBooGaming
    @ViolentBooGaming 10 років тому +4

    I was clenching my teeth through the entire video.

  • @spokehedz
    @spokehedz 10 років тому +6

    You know what I have never had to do on any of my AMD computers? Rip the heatspreader off, replace it with my own paste, and then fiddle with it on the board.
    Now I have crushed the heck out of some AMD Athlon XP CPU's in my day...

    • @Ben333bacc
      @Ben333bacc 10 років тому +1

      Hmm... interesting. I noticed a large improvement with delidding my Opteron 64 X2 back in the day... and Never, ever, crushed an A XP, A MP, Duron, or Pentium 3 in the process of mounting a cooler... (all open die CPUs)

    • @hendrikw4104
      @hendrikw4104 10 років тому

      That's not something you'd do with an Intel CPU either. As he said his one was defect and what you normally do in this case is put it back in its box and ship it right back to the reseller. No need to do any mods like that on any CPU manufacturer. He's just an enthusiast.

  • @brianboegershausen3263
    @brianboegershausen3263 7 років тому

    What's the best tim to use if I don't plan on using sealant? Is liquid stuff ok? Thinking of getting a cryorig h7 and it comes with cryopaste, is that good enough? I have a 4770k. Thanks.

  • @fridaycaliforniaa236
    @fridaycaliforniaa236 Рік тому +1

    I still have my beast of a CPU, 10 years later. It's a Core i7 3770K that ran 10 years OCed to 4,2~4,3 GHz without any trouble. I never got past 75~80°C even with intensive loads. And this last month, I had overheating issues, where I reached almost easily 85~90°C in any task, even after reverting back to full stock frequencies/voltages. Meanwhile, I touch my cooler (Noctua NH-D15) to check the temps and it never gets really hot. I'd say it's just about 30~40°C, while the CPU is clearly boiling. I've changed my thermal paste with some good fresh recently bought Thermal Grizzly, re-done it a few times (in case I screwed up application), but still the same overheating issues.
    Your video is gonna help me a lot, cause I don't see any other cause right now than the internal thermal paste for the problem that I have. I'll try to delid it. I hope it will solve this ^^. Thanks a lot.

  • @Beck88
    @Beck88 10 років тому +11

    i wont want to risk my processor on this

    • @2bfranky
      @2bfranky 3 роки тому +1

      That's a great decision you made. The lack of confidence has no place here.

  • @360sully360
    @360sully360 9 років тому +145

    how many people broke therecpu by trying this lmao

    • @360sully360
      @360sully360 9 років тому +19

      ***** how is it useless? freedom of speech and yes it is a true statement. I bet there are loads of people who has done his and broke there cpu.

    • @Sasch1994
      @Sasch1994 9 років тому +19

      Mark Park My CPU works fine. I removed the IHS today.

    • @j8uluvana
      @j8uluvana 9 років тому +11

      Mark Park yeah... my friend broke i7-4790k

    • @jhowe67
      @jhowe67 9 років тому +8

      Mark Park He just broke his processor, or atleas greatly reduced the lifespan of it, the oils from his hands are going to corrode all the resistors he just smeared.

    • @DoggoRides
      @DoggoRides 9 років тому +2

      Mark Park I argree with you. I whould send it to intel and say "fix mah shit!"

  • @QuadTubeChannel
    @QuadTubeChannel 9 років тому

    Good description, it really helps a lot. Thanks.

  • @Minkehr
    @Minkehr 10 років тому

    Why reattach the heatspreader, once ou have taken it off? Wouldn't it me wiser to place the cooler directly on the die? Is there any good reason, why the heat-spreader would have to be there? (except for protecting the die itself from mechanical damage, due to wrong placement of the CPU-Cooler)

  • @ernststavroblofeld1961
    @ernststavroblofeld1961 8 років тому +7

    "And by the way, I never did this before.." LOL

  • @Ahmedhkad
    @Ahmedhkad 10 років тому +6

    DAMN ON ME !!! all that years I thought all (metal cover + CPU) is one peace , contain all complicated stuff *_* , thank you tooooooo much
    next I will just open my CPU to play with :D

  • @in2theair67
    @in2theair67 4 роки тому

    Hi.
    For my new i7-4790K which past do you recommend ? Does the Artic MX4 got enough thermal resistance ?

  • @paytyler
    @paytyler 8 років тому

    I was delidding my 4790K because there was a huge inconsistency between the temps of the different cores. I nicked the chip on top if the ICs are on the left, but I assembled everything and everything seems to work. I've been using the system for over a month now. What is disabled in my CPU? All the data buses that I currently use work just fine. I am however, hesitant to buy new parts as I don't know what will and won't work.

  • @stoneyyay
    @stoneyyay 8 років тому +3

    So essentially you bought a CPU. Turns out it was defective. Rather than RMAing it, and getting it replaced, you go ahead and void teh warranty... Nice job!

    • @chrisfetters4742
      @chrisfetters4742 8 років тому

      What part of Intel using shitty thermal paste makes it defective? They're all like that so RMA'ing would be totally pointless. *facepalm* It's just intentionally bad design choices, aka cost cutting/customer gouging.

    • @dubsy1026
      @dubsy1026 6 років тому

      Chris Fetters it's got a way higher temp than the normal for this processor

  • @ChrisKadaver
    @ChrisKadaver 7 років тому +3

    why do you even need the heatspreader? Why not just put the cooler on directly?

    • @IZylusI
      @IZylusI 7 років тому +2

      My theory is that the die is very fragile, and the copper heatspreader reduces actual pressure by distributing the load on the PCB instead of the die when tightening on a heatsink, and it does what its name implies... Spreads the heat evenly to take away heat from the center before transferring it over to the heatsink.

    • @ChrisKadaver
      @ChrisKadaver 7 років тому

      Ah okey. So you think the pressure from the cooler directly attached to the die actually could wreck your cpu?! When it comes to cooling performance you would probably be better of without the heatspreader anyway. The heat would spread even better with the heatsink directly attached to the die I think.

    • @BoxxerCore
      @BoxxerCore 7 років тому +1

      I remember the Athlon XP CPUs used to chip and crack like glass at the edges if you were removing a really tight-sprung heatsink and put pressure on the corners.

    • @the3rdid485
      @the3rdid485 7 років тому

      You dont have to, a lot of people dont. Also make sure you use liquid metal vs paste...youll get more like 15-20 degree drops.

  • @JonathanZigler
    @JonathanZigler 10 років тому

    WhiteFireDragon what would you suggest would be the best Thermal paste for in-between the processor heat sink and the little chip inside ,as well as recommendations for between the cooling unit and the heat sink? i'm looking at doing a couple projects of my own,planning to possibly break a world record one day hahah maybe ,but i'm looking for high quality paste for a very intuitive thermal build .

  • @WindWaker1998
    @WindWaker1998 8 років тому

    I have cooler master thermal paste and Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste, which would be better if I were to do this?

  • @proxactual
    @proxactual 10 років тому +14

    All these armchair experts makin me laff. His chip was well within intel spec @ stock clocks + stock voltages. RMA'ing that chip for higher-than-expected temps in synthetic applications with a mild overclock would result in his chip being sent straight back to him. His options were a) put up with it, b) take out the intel overclocking warranty then fry his chip, c) delid it. He made the right choice imo

  • @Zock3rB3ast
    @Zock3rB3ast 8 років тому +12

    And exactly this is why i went with a Proper CPU.. not this iGPU crap and poor Thermal Paste CPU's. Intel's i7 Extreme CPU's are soldered and therefore don't need to be opened like these..

    • @jeffthekiller6648
      @jeffthekiller6648 8 років тому +4

      +Kitty Cat yes lets spend a grand on a cpu ;/

    • @hydrochloricacid2146
      @hydrochloricacid2146 8 років тому +5

      5820k ftw

    • @Zock3rB3ast
      @Zock3rB3ast 8 років тому +2

      +Thomas Elmore No need to spend a Grand on a CPU.. the 5930k + 5820k are less than a Grand.. but if you spend money on a CPU, then do it on a CPU that is soldered, and not this garbage

    • @cataria3903
      @cataria3903 8 років тому +3

      +Kitty Cat logical aproach most clever people have:
      get the cheapest real value cpu.
      overclock it to its stable 24/7 overclock with good custom cooler, be done!
      the fact that intel didn't even use proper heat paste hell even a relativly good one would have been miles better than the crap they put there tells u that they dont give a fuck about customers and cut wherever they can.
      literally all he did in the video was change the heatpaste for what ,5 euros? of paste and it works as it should.
      idk i just dont get it.
      and i dont get why u think people should spent more money on chips that have a thermal transfer as it should be for everyone of the chips.

    • @Zock3rB3ast
      @Zock3rB3ast 8 років тому

      bluej511 Proper CPU's like the X or Enthusiast K series are already soldered.. DUH. Yeah let's buy a consumer crap chip with shitty Thermal Paste and Garbage iGPU and then Void the Warranty by delidding it. And eventually destroy the CPU in that process. "easily solder the IHS or something like that".. sure. If you're dumb enough and want to get your CPU killed.. go ahead.

  • @kankurou89
    @kankurou89 7 років тому

    my xeon e3 1231 idles around 45 degree in 30 degree ambient and max out at 71 degree during aida64 stability test.. is that acceptable? i tried re-sitting my heat sink and re applied thermal paste (nt-h1) but still the same result

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 9 років тому

    question, doesnt most of the good thermal paste(that requires a burn in) end up being hard?

  • @jeraldehlert7903
    @jeraldehlert7903 10 років тому +4

    omg you brave brave kid.

  • @BrainSeepsOut
    @BrainSeepsOut 9 років тому +10

    Do you not know how to use a syringe, bro?

  • @m1ph
    @m1ph 6 років тому

    Recently our old Dell XPS laptop had coffee spilled on it, so we took it apart and took out the RAM, cpu and other components. The cpu was a core i7 2630 and seemed like it had already been delidded. It has some thick silicone residue that I can’t seem to remove. Any tips?

  • @josejunior1448
    @josejunior1448 7 років тому

    Excellent video!! Very informative, thanks for sharing

  • @julienfoss1392
    @julienfoss1392 9 років тому +4

    this man is so awesome he can calculate the quality and price of thermal paste from its viscosity

  • @chunkmen
    @chunkmen 10 років тому +20

    Warranty voided as all hell

    • @IBIubbleTea
      @IBIubbleTea 10 років тому

      I don't think soo..
      www.overclock.net/t/1313179/official-delidded-club-guide
      Take a look at the transcript.

    • @TheDetroitSlayer
      @TheDetroitSlayer 10 років тому

      IBIubbleTea
      Thats awesome. Now I may actually consider doing this to my 3570k. Ive been having the same problem as is in the video, just not as extreme. But Core#0 is consistently 10-15C higher that the other 3.

    • @IBIubbleTea
      @IBIubbleTea 10 років тому

      TheDetroitSlayer Just be careful and not scratch anything.

  • @enzo7013
    @enzo7013 10 років тому

    very good and informative video! Thank you for this!

  • @ripiosuelto
    @ripiosuelto 7 років тому

    Hi. In my case the experience with MX-4 and Gelid Extreme did not work. Temperatures dropped 7 or 8ºC but after a week they rose above temps before delided (I made 4 or 5 attempts with total PC cleaning and paste change).
    Coolaboratory Ultra lowered temperature 18 and has remained stable for a year. Do you have any idea of the cause of the apparent degradation of silicon TIM in my case?

  • @T.K.9
    @T.K.9 10 років тому +3

    Edit: Okay I think I might do it now but this way =Oo2aFZBBJF4 , it was way to fast and he used a freaking card board on the rest of the PCB like 97% of it on card holy! :D no risk of scratch!
    This is really making me wanna go pull out my 4670k and replace the TIM..... At the same time kind of scary to razor blade it and scratch the green pcb lol. Been trying to OC to 4.4 but the heat is just way too much. Even in stock + turbo Boost it goes to like 75-83+ on P95 more on IBT with air cooling :x I wished I had a Vice.....! Whats really annoying is that Intel's asking price for the high end i5 or i7 are too much. The least they could do is put a high end TIM on it or just use Fluxless solder like the Sandy's had....

    • @anub1s15
      @anub1s15 10 років тому

      yea have the same thought.
      my 4670 is running stock and the temps are bonkers, i have my gpu and cpu in the same liquid cooling loop cpu running stock and gpu 33% oc, the gpu tops out at 65 degree's the cpu hits 88 after 30 min of prime 95 and hits 60-70 degree's wile gaming(not to high but imo way to frickin high for stock on liquid). time to get naked mounting and delid this sucker... once i have enough saved up to buy another in case i bork the operation :P

    • @T.K.9
      @T.K.9 10 років тому

      anub1s15 its doable :) I did mine using the same way but it took me longer to get an insertion point using a thin hard razor not the bendy one's. After that inserted a plastic card board then pulled off the rest of the epoxy, no risk of scratching the pcb at all, just don't go to far inside where the Die is situated. But the key I think is Taking your time so no massive headache at the end xD For better results you can also go and direct mount your liquid water block (EK seem to sell fixings for direct mounting) or with heat sinks but beware there will be a risk of cracking Die if you over tighten screws or if you use a heavy tower heat sink. And I dont recommend the use of liquid team or stuff like IC Diamond as they kinda react to the Die and crack it. I saw 2 chips that died and crack and users applied IC Diamond TIM. You could still use them for really good performance like CLU from coollaboratory but use it at your own risk. Either than that it really kills alot of temps, specially using those liquid metal TIM's.

  • @PhilipWarda
    @PhilipWarda 10 років тому +49

    I cant believe this.
    Are you seriously telling me Intel, one of the biggest IC manufacturers in the world spend millions on R&D and sell CPUs for 100's of £/$
    And then cheap out on 3 cm of thermal paste?
    Seriously? And this has a huge impact on CPU running Temps.
    Sounds bonkers

    • @anhedoniac6390
      @anhedoniac6390 10 років тому +29

      If they didn't do this, how do they expect to sell the next version of CPU's? Imagine someone created and unbreakable tool that never dull, blunts or breaks. If ten people want this tool, he only sells 10. However, if he makes it slightly worse, he can sell it 10 times, over and over again. He might even slightly upgrade it each time to give them incentive to buy it again.

    • @SupremeGamingStyle
      @SupremeGamingStyle 10 років тому +10

      To keep the business running they purposely make theire products fail after a certain amount of time, 5-10 years max. With proper thermal compound or cpus would last 20-30 years, the fact that they would be completely outdated and couldn't run a latest wordpad is irrelevant. I'm not just talking about intel, a lot of companies do it, it's their policy ahahah lol.

    • @PhilipWarda
      @PhilipWarda 10 років тому +15

      Damn capitalism :(

    • @TheoLubbe
      @TheoLubbe 10 років тому +5

      SupremeGamingStyle
      Companies like Intel don't "purposefully design their products to fail", they design them to have a maximum MTBF. There's no reason to have a MTBF of 20+ years for a product that may be irrelevant within 5.

    • @SupremeGamingStyle
      @SupremeGamingStyle 10 років тому +1

      Theo Lubbe That's capitalism for ya. I still have a computer from 2004 which runs fine, when intel and nvidia parts fried, changed them to amd, still runs to this day, some people even use pcs as old as 1999~, it's not about being irrelevant, it's about making a product that will last u so long, you'll buy a new one when it becomes obsolete to you, and not break down in 2-5 years which is what intel wants, to push their chips. AMD is trying to take the crown by making their cpu's last, cards are just as good as far as peoples reviews go.

  • @realAdaunn
    @realAdaunn 10 років тому

    If you remove the top shell of the processor and only the processor itself is left, con you mount it to a laptop since it looks exactly like a laptop CPU?

  • @METALPLUSGAMING
    @METALPLUSGAMING 6 років тому

    can i put cooler master ice fusion thermal paste on the IHS? i hit also almost 100c for using google chrome on core i7 6700k stock clock

  • @TDPEquinox
    @TDPEquinox 10 років тому +9

    Not wearing gloves to protect the gold on the bottom from the oil on your hands.
    Using paper towel and no isopropyl alcohol is very very bad.
    Using Improper tools to delid.
    I haven't even gotten to the part where you put it back on yet.

    • @GratedArseCheeks
      @GratedArseCheeks 10 років тому +1

      Eh dont worry.. It's fine, paper towel is okay as long as you clear up any fibres... oil is minimal and will barely affect the cpu - if at all... Improper tools, while not being ideal, are the only thing you can do when you arent doing it professionally... electronics is surprisingly resilient to these things and the biggest killer of electronics is static electricity! So ground yourself and chances are 99.9% of the time you will not damage anything! ..

    • @TDPEquinox
      @TDPEquinox 10 років тому

      Ranstead Moons the oil on the contacts do a considerable amount of damage.

    • @verisimilitudeteller
      @verisimilitudeteller 10 років тому +1

      Ranstead Moons Coffee filters are lint-free and ultra cheap.

    • @JoeSchmoeLivesHere
      @JoeSchmoeLivesHere 10 років тому +2

      Christopher Snow Coffee filters rock!
      ;-)

    • @demonkoryu
      @demonkoryu 9 років тому

      Christopher Snow What do you mean to do with coffee filters? Using them to clean stuff?

  • @0Tidus0989
    @0Tidus0989 10 років тому +11

    I've never heard of this problem before watching this video...O.o

    • @Chilllybob
      @Chilllybob 5 років тому

      Same here

    • @jaydaytoday3548
      @jaydaytoday3548 5 років тому +1

      Ignorance is bliss. 5yrs later and intel has finally fixed their issue. Also issue mainly affects overclocking chips, but not always my i7 4770 over heats playing ubisoft games.

  • @sebastiancronert4773
    @sebastiancronert4773 10 років тому

    Works perfectly, got my i5-4670k on the MSI Z87-G45 from 91°C to 51°C at 4100 GHz and default Voltage (after 1 hour stress test on Prime95). Very nice vid!

  • @DukieHolliday
    @DukieHolliday 10 років тому

    I've looked into my i5 3470 to see if it is an ivy bridge. I'm assuming it is, also, would EVGA's Thermal Grease (frostbite) work well with this?

  • @ModeratelyOtaku
    @ModeratelyOtaku 10 років тому +7

    I would never dare do that to my 4930k :o

    • @Chris23399
      @Chris23399 10 років тому

      Only the 4930K?

    • @Onion_Knights
      @Onion_Knights 10 років тому

      ***** how about laptop chips? my macbook is using the crystalwell processor, and it really runs hot. as far as i know, the thermal paste applied to it is insanely wrong.. been thinking of removing it and apply new ones. how about the "inner" paste like in this vid?

    • @Onion_Knights
      @Onion_Knights 10 років тому

      ah ic, thx

    • @Adam-tp8py
      @Adam-tp8py 10 років тому

      Fix'd with Devil's Canyon, though.

    • @Adam-tp8py
      @Adam-tp8py 10 років тому

      ***** It is, thermals are fixed. I have a 4690k.

  • @AooV
    @AooV 10 років тому +9

    poor keemstar;(

  • @djarcforceable
    @djarcforceable 6 років тому

    Still running my old dinosaur of an i7... a Sandybridge 2600 and I just noticed today while I was checking something else that my CPU cores had all peaked at 98C while I had the monitoring software open. (about a 30 min period) The system had been under somewhat heavy load during that time. Wondering if my thermal paste is getting old and ineffective.

  • @Alekouzos
    @Alekouzos 10 років тому

    What is the black material intel uses? Can i use somthing else so i can make it solid again?

  • @EndermanAPM
    @EndermanAPM 10 років тому +11

    LOL, i have a 3770k that runs at 50ºC at 4,5 GHz i think u just had bad luck and voided the guaranty doind dat.

    • @guilhermefreitas7586
      @guilhermefreitas7586 10 років тому

      Me too, but I don't overclock it that much

    • @HiVoltGaming
      @HiVoltGaming 10 років тому

      Same here with my 4670K. In my case I just apply the thermal paste like a boss and use high quality fans in push/pull. Case airflow is also just as important. My CPU cooler is xigmatek dark knight 2, nothing super fancy. It works extremely well. [Cool story bro @myself]

    • @guilhermefreitas7586
      @guilhermefreitas7586 10 років тому

      High Voltage eV I use a corsair 800w font with two corsair coolers and a ThermalTake case with a lot of air flow, so here in Brazil, even being hot, it runs just perfect.

    • @MichaelKnickers
      @MichaelKnickers 10 років тому

      Really? What fans do you have, or watercooling?

    • @EndermanAPM
      @EndermanAPM 10 років тому

      I have a Noctua D14 :D

  • @mavromanitari9739
    @mavromanitari9739 9 років тому +4

    well... you must admit this guy got balls..

  • @DivineGaming00
    @DivineGaming00 10 років тому

    I like the focus on your camera :)

  • @richardgraham65
    @richardgraham65 10 років тому

    Thanks for the video, interesting. I have been wondering if anyone knows if a complete reflow job has ever been tried on this when refitting the heat spreader? It wouldn't seem like too much extra work to get say a .008" stencil to apply some solder paste and get the pcb and spreader sent back through a reflow oven and see what the difference in temperatures would be with a true solder joint. Also, do you know if it is possible to fit the PCB back in the socket and using an custom cooler, fit a heatsink directly to the die, i.e. leave off the heat spreader.

  • @TheSterlingArcher16
    @TheSterlingArcher16 9 років тому +20

    Remember kids, do NOT try this at home.

  • @SWATcyp
    @SWATcyp 8 років тому +7

    It's like a good ending horror movie

  • @JackS425
    @JackS425 10 років тому

    Wonder if the old core 2 quad CPUS use this method of cooling. I'm not taking mine apart though.

  • @barrycooper8640
    @barrycooper8640 9 років тому

    Good video Bro. I always get the runt of the litter when it comes to processors. Luckily my 3570k was a good one for once. 60 C @ 4.5 ghz. I just needed 1.120 volts. Intel burn test puts the temps up to around 70 C. Game play temps are all under 60 C. Thanks for taking the time to make this video.

  • @ALIENdrifter66
    @ALIENdrifter66 8 років тому +28

    Touching the pins with your fingers reduces their conductivity

    • @TheOfficialKiro67
      @TheOfficialKiro67 8 років тому

      i don't think that tose cpu's have pins , only old cpu's used them

    • @ALIENdrifter66
      @ALIENdrifter66 8 років тому +2

      TheOfficialKiro67 In Intel CPUs the pins are in the socket, but the other part of the pins is in the CPU. In AMD it's the opposite

    • @TheOfficialKiro67
      @TheOfficialKiro67 8 років тому

      oh sorry , i actually tough he was talking about pins on the CPU, i jsut saw a person on 9gag did this mistake (he tought that intel cpi's have pins) and i tought
      he was also talking about pins on intel CPU, my bad

    • @ALIENdrifter66
      @ALIENdrifter66 8 років тому

      ***** the ones in the cpu yes

    • @Ncky
      @Ncky 7 років тому

      yes it does, by increasing resistance by less than 50mOhm..... LOL pins in socket are sharp because of that reason

  • @Andreamorim112
    @Andreamorim112 9 років тому +5

    I tried to do what you did and accidentaly killed my dog. Instructions werent clear...

    • @sime3250
      @sime3250 9 років тому

      I cut off my dick ...

  • @jacklee8583
    @jacklee8583 10 років тому

    Does anyone know if the IHS for Haswell CPUs and Ivy Bridge CPUs are identical? I'm buying a 4670k that has a slightly damaged IHS, so I'm wondering where I can buy a spare IHS.

  • @PRODIGITION
    @PRODIGITION 3 роки тому

    I have question, What if , run Prossessor without IHS, So The Cpu Cooller Directly To Cpu. Like Cpu on laptop.

  • @MilanSvitek
    @MilanSvitek 8 років тому +74

    Cut it in half: Congrats. You just made a Pentium! :D
    (Sorry XD )

    • @TheBlork74
      @TheBlork74 8 років тому +6

      +MacAlister Livingston put amd in your intel socket and you get face melting stench.

    • @woods8523
      @woods8523 8 років тому

      +Milan Svitek STFU
      fucking memer

    • @MilanSvitek
      @MilanSvitek 8 років тому

      +Woodsy CSGO ... ?

    • @MilanSvitek
      @MilanSvitek 8 років тому

      MacAlister Livingston like... What's his problem? 😮

    • @TheBlork74
      @TheBlork74 8 років тому +1

      MacAlister Livingston North America uses 120 Volts AC

  • @JackobJackob32
    @JackobJackob32 10 років тому +10

    The most interesting part of this video is how afraid he is

    • @CrabSt3r
      @CrabSt3r 5 років тому

      Shit I just did mine and I'm still scared as fuck lol it's a 350 dollar cpu and your chances to break it are very high. But the reward is lower Temps.

    • @CrabSt3r
      @CrabSt3r 4 роки тому

      @Papaya Tasty being afraid to learn new things isn't a way to live life. You have to be willing to take risk at some point. I did mine and Temps dropped 5c I call that a win since I didn't use liquid metal.

  • @0neinch
    @0neinch 7 років тому

    I have to admit that I am amazed at some of the temps I see from Intel. I air cool my FX9590 and it hovers around 45c when in heavy use.

  • @YaoChow
    @YaoChow 10 років тому

    I must admit, the results are really nice and do make me want to try this one day. A lot of risk involved with doing something like this though. If you got a bad cpu though, it maybe well worth the risk. Nice vid

  • @Goofygiggles
    @Goofygiggles 8 років тому +40

    how did the cpu live through that xD

    • @HELLO-ci7wp
      @HELLO-ci7wp 8 років тому +3

      ?

    • @Dan-sk2ff
      @Dan-sk2ff 8 років тому +1

      +Goofygiggles Simple, you litterally cut off a piece of metal, removed the old thermal paste and replaced it.
      All that while being grounded.

    • @Dan-sk2ff
      @Dan-sk2ff 8 років тому

      arebokert Meh, didn't pay attention to that. :p

  • @Shankovich
    @Shankovich 8 років тому +132

    Oh god please stop touching the CPU contacts ;-;

    • @BahBahTheSheep
      @BahBahTheSheep 8 років тому +51

      +Shankovich it really, really doesnt matter lmao

    • @IntelBoyk-zr2ug
      @IntelBoyk-zr2ug 8 років тому +1

      +Shankovich
      lmao

    • @copperkipper1
      @copperkipper1 8 років тому +3

      +BahBahTheSheep Actually it does. ESD is not a joke. It could severely impact the life span of the CPU.

    • @BahBahTheSheep
      @BahBahTheSheep 8 років тому +2

      did you just think about what you wrote?

    • @copperkipper1
      @copperkipper1 8 років тому +1

      +BahBahTheSheep I'm not sure what you're getting at? Can't you comprehend what I wrote?

  • @TheRealDavil
    @TheRealDavil 10 років тому

    Arctic Silver 5, MX-2, and MX-4 dried out really fast on all the ones I tried. Had to keep replacing it after a few days. They just don't seem to meant for that amount of heat. Liquid pro/ultra gave me about 10c lower than the other pastes and still works after several months.

  • @augustlaible
    @augustlaible 9 років тому

    with all my ranting i totally forgot to thank the person who made the video.
    thanks man, it was a big help to see under the hood!!!!!!!!!

  • @opmike343
    @opmike343 10 років тому +10

    Think you could find a rustier razor blade? Personally, I like my jaw to lock up rock solid when I cut myself.

  • @LarsTechTipsDe
    @LarsTechTipsDe 10 років тому +8

    there is a reason why intel has dust free workspaces.

    • @Forry2k12
      @Forry2k12 10 років тому +3

      LMFAO you think cause this HS? XDDDD
      never.
      this is like putting on a CPU cooler.
      those dust free workspaces are for all the other processes you have while building a cpu, but surely not for this thing xD

    • @LarsTechTipsDe
      @LarsTechTipsDe 10 років тому +3

      ok, you guys are right :D

  • @anderzz85
    @anderzz85 10 років тому +1

    nice job dude, have to do this with haswell :D

  • @tanichka32
    @tanichka32 7 років тому

    What would happen if you attach the heatsink directly to the cpu without that cap?

  • @evolutionSK999
    @evolutionSK999 10 років тому +11

    you are doing it wrong I saw guy at overclockers doing it within 5sec using hammer !!!

  • @Linnywoo
    @Linnywoo 9 років тому +3

    Wow, you used paper towels... That could leave fibres behind and mess things up.

  • @BobJones-zf6ie
    @BobJones-zf6ie 10 років тому

    Thanks! very enlightening....was worried you were going to slip with the razor blade.

  • @dinokajtebriga8246
    @dinokajtebriga8246 8 років тому

    This was so intense! When he was putting the IHS on the dye at 18:25 my heart almost exploded from the built-up tension! Oh my god, what intenseness

  • @lebraa
    @lebraa 10 років тому +21

    The whole time i was hoping, hed mess up and end up with a dead cpu, does that make me an evil person?

    • @legofreak88884444
      @legofreak88884444 10 років тому

      you REALLY need to know what your doing before you mod or tamper with ANY cpu

    • @llamasvids
      @llamasvids 10 років тому +3

      i asked my mum and she said it doesnt make you evil its just not a very nice thought

    • @lebraa
      @lebraa 10 років тому

      charles lee now u got me worried, coz moms can only be so harsh..lol

    • @llamasvids
      @llamasvids 10 років тому +1

      Khalid Hassan Shohag well my mum beats me if i don't fulfil gods commandments so i think your in the clear :)

    • @pauliazz94
      @pauliazz94 9 років тому

      There's a Devil, Deep inside you :P
      Well everyone does. Even me.

  • @aEditorsGlory
    @aEditorsGlory 10 років тому +8

    ahh now keem cant do youtube for a week...

  •  9 років тому

    Hey guys i have my i7 3770K run around 57° normal and 75-80° in use without overcloking but with the basic intel fan. Is it normal or i need to change the IHS too or just the fan ?
    Thanks

    • @gabrieldalcomune3044
      @gabrieldalcomune3044 9 років тому

      Get a better cooler and test it.
      You're being limited by the stock cooler.

  • @gabriel.rodriguez
    @gabriel.rodriguez 10 років тому +1

    Is there a way to glue the IHS again?