@@PulseEffects Yeah, that is insane, especially in speedrunning time. Laggy Lake and Lagtree thicket are pretty much unplayable in docked mode. It does feel like the fairy area kinda got better after the first patch because i don't notice the slowdown there as much after the patch but the patch didn't do any performance improvement. So, it is probably placebo.
It's funny how, despite probably being the least popular of the three starter types, the grass starters have recently been soooooo powerful. In addition to Meowscarada being a meta-defining attacker in Gen 9 Series 1 and very strong in Smogon singles, we just came *off a gen whose competitive environment was massively shaped by Rillaboom and Venusaur (obv not a new mon but still). Grass be blastin'.
You must play mainly doubles because Libero Rabbit was obnoxious in singles OU. Much more so than Rillaboom (who was still good). Only SV and RBY are imo the gens where the grass starter is the best
Crazy how many moves Meowscarada gets, and how it can work on the physical and special side. Its flexibility made the ideas for this category flow really fast for a few days - love it when the speedrun community gets in the zone like that! Didn't make it easy for people who wanted a stable route, though (sorry for all the starter resets you had to do, Pulse :P) Love what you're doing with this style of video!
That day was such a ride, it was incredible seeing the community come together to both optimize the route while also delivering amazing competition. It truly was a team effort! Great video, Pulse! #flamiGONE
Meowscarada is a beast. It has the highest base speed out of all the final evo starters and its signature move with the never miss always crit is abnormal
I didn't realize Spriggatito was a cat burglar! I guess they're just Meowscarading as magician to pull the wool over the audience's eyes while they rob 'em blind of all the best speedrun times!
@@halcyonacoustic7366 The level of quality from Summoning Salt is on a very different level then everyone else. So it only matters if he makes a video about it
I found hylarious that in a recent video you made, you talked about how bad probably using sprigatito as the starter and it is crazy how the speedrun history of this game switched so constantly between pokémon since it was launched
After seeing half of this video, I made a challenge to play with ONLY Meowscarada, let me tell you it was a BREEZE for my first ever challenge, especially since it has play rough to use on roaring moon,
Completely unrelated to the video, but I already sat up from my seat as you were talking about you UA-cam success as of late. I checked out your channel while I left the video playing in the background and found that your videos have been doing extremely good with 100K views+ as of late. You were talking about how you experimented, how you want to be more true to yourself in a format that you enjoy doing, which was something I already needed to hear. And then the icing on the cake was that you said to find your voice Chris. I was not the twitch chatter that you were talking to likely, but that major coincidence heavily inspired me to comment when I otherwise wouldn't have. Appreciate that! Hope you find major success. If this video was recommended to me 2 months later, I'm sure your content is soon to reach a huge spike!
My favorite part of Scarlet and violet runs, is the return of BLJ. It's SO funny to me that Nintendo allowed for almost the exact same glitch from MARIO 64 to return in a Pokemon game almost...what 20 years later or something like that? It's hilarious.
Just came across your vids a few days ago brotha. Super dig the content and the work you but into it. Its refreshing to watch a streamer without the "streamer attitude." Its so nice watching someone whom seems humble enough and an easy going enough personality but can still provide excellent gameplay without the ego. Keep it up brother.
Do you think it could be possible to cut out some of the greedent RNG by using an X def instead of an X atk on the second turn? That way you could ensure you survive another body slam, and it will put you into overgrow range. Is that plus a x2 atk boost not enough?
I don’t think it would change rng at all I guess you could mabey have a slightly less good cat to start but a crit would still kill. And a paralyze is still a paralyze.
My first file i picked fuecoco and got nowhere after i evolved him into sleledirge. Picked weed kitty in a second file and meowscarada is easily the best and most enjoyable starter i ever used. Meowscarada is definitely the best starter.
Ah good catch, I totally forgot to explain that! We still need physical moves to deal with Tatsugiri and Arven. Which is why the requirements for getting a good starter is ridiculous. 😓
@@PulseEffects I'm guessing that you also needed defence there to not die to body slam? So you basically need good HP, attack, SPatk and defence? That's pretty wild.
Yo, great video! One question- does super glide and backwards jumping up walls count as glitchless? And do you think these things will be updated in the performance patch that’s coming? I love truly glitchless speed runs, I wanna get in to this, but gonna be going straight vanilla and waiting for the performance updates.
Super Glide is counted as a glitch, but BLJ is counted as an exploit at worst. I fully expect the glide glitch to go away, but I'd be surprised if they got rid of BLJs.
@@PulseEffects interesting stuff. Yeah I believe the same outcome for the patch. I’m surprised there are not crazy world drops, crazier clipping and wrong-warp shenanigans in this game despite its bugs. I figured we would be glitching all over the place like a PS2 game haha. I wanna speed run multiple gens of Pokémon just straight up full playthroughs and glitchless
The funny thing is that apparently Scarlet and Violet is like a PS2 game in every other way (size, ability of handling multiple objects and far-away objects, story sensibilities).
In absolute simplest terms. Super gliding will be patched because it’s much easier to remove then BLJs. To remove them you’d have to really examine and probably change the entire *x*-idon movement mechanics.
I usually hate grass starters but Weed Cat has stolen my heart. Even though the only reason I picked it over Dopey Croc is because I wanted Ceruledge as my team's fire type.
You mentioned a couple times that the run can have some RNG elements because of Paralyze/Confusion. Is there any possible way to pick up a covert cloak when you're buying your X items? There's apparently one on the ground in Montnevera but I imagine that fucks up way too much pathing to be an option.
Little dod we know that the little weed cat would go from a meme and later a ripoff persona character to a world record holder and a nation wide menace and criminal to the no fly list.i feel so proud as part of the sprigattito hype gang
Further proof that Meowscarada is the BEST Grass Starter yet! That's what I love to see. Also, a Relaxed Nature, because Speed IV's and growth are basically irrelevant? I'll admit, that's something I'd do, if I saw how steep the competition was, for this. Either way, VERY well done.
It has a really fast move animation. Since we're forced to keep animations on in Sc/Vi speedruns, a lot of the routing is based around using moves that can not only KO Pokémon easily, but also save time simply through the animation length.
@@PulseEffects oooh, did they change that? Ok granted -> change would mean since gen 1, cause the only speedruns I watched are gen 1 and they mention that a crit ends up doing less damage cause they ignore stat boosts so they were hoping to not crit. Maybe it was just wrong info alltogetjer tho idk
@@avocadothecat Yes, they changed it in Gen 2 to what it is now. Crits now ignore your stat drops and the opponent's stat buffs, but not your stat buffs or their stat drops.
I feel like such a boomer I don’t recognize these Pokémon. Back in my day we had solrock and dialga and even then I felt impressive for knowing like 5-600 👴
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Team grass cat
Stop using someone else voice on ur voice over
Love u on cut throat pokemon they pick on u so much bc how good u were
@timeless hunter Every bit of that was my voice lmao
@@PulseEffects I know
First spriggatito stole the no flight list, now it stole world records
Best Comment for those who know.
@@doopness785 im not 100% clued in what happened
Spriggatito stays silly :3
@@zoruasnivy The no fly list of the United States was hacked last week.
I recommend looking up who did it.
@@zoruasnivy hacker got US no fly list, took a picture of the list while holding a plush toy of the grass cat
Imagine how much faster each of these speedruns would be if the game didn't slow down or have crazy frame rate hitches in docked mode.
Fun fact, playing in undocked mode saves at least 5-6 minutes cause of lag. 😂
@@PulseEffects Yeah, that is insane, especially in speedrunning time. Laggy Lake and Lagtree thicket are pretty much unplayable in docked mode. It does feel like the fairy area kinda got better after the first patch because i don't notice the slowdown there as much after the patch but the patch didn't do any performance improvement. So, it is probably placebo.
@@PulseEffects team cat
@@PulseEffects have you ever tried bumping it down from 1080p to 720p in docked mode?
Imagine losing 5-6 minutes to the game being an unpolished buggy mess.
*"What a great game."* - Imported Cheese
It's funny how, despite probably being the least popular of the three starter types, the grass starters have recently been soooooo powerful. In addition to Meowscarada being a meta-defining attacker in Gen 9 Series 1 and very strong in Smogon singles, we just came *off a gen whose competitive environment was massively shaped by Rillaboom and Venusaur (obv not a new mon but still). Grass be blastin'.
You must play mainly doubles because Libero Rabbit was obnoxious in singles OU. Much more so than Rillaboom (who was still good). Only SV and RBY are imo the gens where the grass starter is the best
@@user-uv2cp1qd1j accurate, I know next to nothing about the various singles metagames.
Least popular? Dude, people love that cat lol.
Probably because of the stupidly bad power creep of comp pokemon
@@loveluclins What I meant is that across the entire history of Pokemon, grass starters have been less popular than fire and water.
Crazy how many moves Meowscarada gets, and how it can work on the physical and special side. Its flexibility made the ideas for this category flow really fast for a few days - love it when the speedrun community gets in the zone like that! Didn't make it easy for people who wanted a stable route, though (sorry for all the starter resets you had to do, Pulse :P) Love what you're doing with this style of video!
I am so happy that Meowscarada is the new speedrun champ. I love that funny can so much.
It was also #1 in usage by the end of VGC Season 1 (i.e. now). Not #1 in usage among starter Pokémon. Just in general.
Can
i love cans
That day was such a ride, it was incredible seeing the community come together to both optimize the route while also delivering amazing competition. It truly was a team effort! Great video, Pulse! #flamiGONE
"#flamiGONE" 🗿
I will return 🦩
holy shit, we have the world record. holy fucking bingle. what?! :33
Meowscarada is a beast. It has the highest base speed out of all the final evo starters and its signature move with the never miss always crit is abnormal
at least it's got a massive weakness being quad damaged by First Impression (though mainly from wild Lokix)
Devs had a favorite lmao
Also kinda funny the Pokémon with Aqua Step doesn’t have the highest base speed
I bet flower trick comes in handy in case tatsugiri lowers your accuracy, since the move never misses.
Ikr
The infamous phantom thief Meowscarada is stealing all of our hearts….and world records.
Btw it’s pronounced “Don-Doe-Zo”
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No it's pronounced
Don- BO- zo
He pronounced dratini as drah-tiny Instead of drah tini
It's incredibly fitting that someone with Garfield in their name helped route the cat starter
I didn't realize Spriggatito was a cat burglar! I guess they're just Meowscarading as magician to pull the wool over the audience's eyes while they rob 'em blind of all the best speedrun times!
They were serious when they were coming up with meowscaradas inspiration lmao
I expect Summoning Salt doing a video of this in a couple of months.
Why? It's already being done..
Couple of years. He never makes videos on games this new
@@halcyonacoustic7366 The level of quality from Summoning Salt is on a very different level then everyone else. So it only matters if he makes a video about it
Why? There is nearly no history yet
he doesnt really like Pokemon speedruns
I found hylarious that in a recent video you made, you talked about how bad probably using sprigatito as the starter and it is crazy how the speedrun history of this game switched so constantly between pokémon since it was launched
Funny how before, people hated Meowscarada because it stood on 2 legs over 4. Now look at our boy, breaking records left and right.
It's best starter
@@jwjsjjsjsjjs easy when the fire starter is forgettable asf and the water starter is the worst starter they've made yet
@@raijinoflimgrave8708 it was the 3rd most popular pokemon in Japan in the recent popularity contest
The magic cat is so OwO
@@Subreon magic
enjoying the content a lot, but draTINY and doDONZO are really testing me right here...
Garjanacl hit me too man...
Wolfe’s gimmick
jimmick
@@doopness785 At least Wolfeys pronunciations use the right spellings, dodonzo is not even how its spelled...
After seeing half of this video, I made a challenge to play with ONLY Meowscarada, let me tell you it was a BREEZE for my first ever challenge, especially since it has play rough to use on roaring moon,
I love how we went from going back and forth between Fuecoco and Quaxly to Sprigatito being the only correct choice.
I only picked the cat
Based feline
Sprigatito also stole the world record of the easiest no-fly list hack in the world.
Holy fucking bingle
Who else read "This Pokémon is the Destroyer of Worlds" lol
It is
Weed cat, beating up big pokemon: *I am become death, destroyer of worlds. Nya.*
I find it hilarious that they have a relaxed nature, while they are anything but.
Completely unrelated to the video, but I already sat up from my seat as you were talking about you UA-cam success as of late. I checked out your channel while I left the video playing in the background and found that your videos have been doing extremely good with 100K views+ as of late. You were talking about how you experimented, how you want to be more true to yourself in a format that you enjoy doing, which was something I already needed to hear. And then the icing on the cake was that you said to find your voice Chris. I was not the twitch chatter that you were talking to likely, but that major coincidence heavily inspired me to comment when I otherwise wouldn't have. Appreciate that! Hope you find major success. If this video was recommended to me 2 months later, I'm sure your content is soon to reach a huge spike!
My favorite part of Scarlet and violet runs, is the return of BLJ. It's SO funny to me that Nintendo allowed for almost the exact same glitch from MARIO 64 to return in a Pokemon game almost...what 20 years later or something like that? It's hilarious.
When u speedrun helping Arvin's dog but u put it back in the hospital 2 minutes later 💀💀💀
Holy fucking bingle
Just came across your vids a few days ago brotha. Super dig the content and the work you but into it. Its refreshing to watch a streamer without the "streamer attitude."
Its so nice watching someone whom seems humble enough and an easy going enough personality but can still provide excellent gameplay without the ego. Keep it up brother.
"streamer attitude"? is that a thing?
@@RagnellAvalon Loud, salty
Do you think it could be possible to cut out some of the greedent RNG by using an X def instead of an X atk on the second turn? That way you could ensure you survive another body slam, and it will put you into overgrow range. Is that plus a x2 atk boost not enough?
I don’t think it would change rng at all I guess you could mabey have a slightly less good cat to start but a crit would still kill. And a paralyze is still a paralyze.
Is Meowscarada still the king, or queen, of the SV speed run? Or has a new pokémon recently entered the fray to dethrone the crit cat?
Good choice of Music.
Undernight's Soundtrack is fantastic.
God bless spriggtito for acting like a true cat and causing trouble.
Somebody should make a mod where when sprigatito evolves, the text reads "holy fucking bingle, what?? Sprigatito is evolving!"
My first file i picked fuecoco and got nowhere after i evolved him into sleledirge. Picked weed kitty in a second file and meowscarada is easily the best and most enjoyable starter i ever used. Meowscarada is definitely the best starter.
this run is more optimized than the game itself
Man, I am remembering doing all these calcs now for Weed Cat. Good stuff man.
Not sure I understand why you used xatk instead of xspatk when showing off the power of spatk spriggitto but I’m assuming it’s precise dmg calcs
Ah good catch, I totally forgot to explain that! We still need physical moves to deal with Tatsugiri and Arven. Which is why the requirements for getting a good starter is ridiculous. 😓
@@PulseEffects I'm guessing that you also needed defence there to not die to body slam? So you basically need good HP, attack, SPatk and defence? That's pretty wild.
@@Lankpants Right. Even with Pulse's fairly high HP and Def IVs, his cat still had a 17% chance to go down to two non-crit Body Slams from Greedent.
Sprigatito:Aight time to take you on a weed trip buddy
I KNEW SPRIATITO WAS THE BEST STARTER IN SCARLET AND VIOLET
I feel like the editing fell off a lil near the end but it had me til the end. Well made
Yo, great video! One question- does super glide and backwards jumping up walls count as glitchless? And do you think these things will be updated in the performance patch that’s coming? I love truly glitchless speed runs, I wanna get in to this, but gonna be going straight vanilla and waiting for the performance updates.
Super Glide is counted as a glitch, but BLJ is counted as an exploit at worst. I fully expect the glide glitch to go away, but I'd be surprised if they got rid of BLJs.
@@PulseEffects interesting stuff. Yeah I believe the same outcome for the patch. I’m surprised there are not crazy world drops, crazier clipping and wrong-warp shenanigans in this game despite its bugs. I figured we would be glitching all over the place like a PS2 game haha. I wanna speed run multiple gens of Pokémon just straight up full playthroughs and glitchless
The funny thing is that apparently Scarlet and Violet is like a PS2 game in every other way (size, ability of handling multiple objects and far-away objects, story sensibilities).
In absolute simplest terms. Super gliding will be patched because it’s much easier to remove then BLJs. To remove them you’d have to really examine and probably change the entire *x*-idon movement mechanics.
I'm just happy that Speedrunners are touching grass...
and by grass, I mean SPRIGATITO!!!
When the grass starter is actually the best. God bless.
They useally r gen 1 2 have good one
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
Team cat
I usually hate grass starters but Weed Cat has stolen my heart. Even though the only reason I picked it over Dopey Croc is because I wanted Ceruledge as my team's fire type.
That let's go stopped me from falling asleep while watching the video (it's 1:45am when I'm typing this)
Cant we turn off the battle effect to save more time?
This makes me happy to have confirmed what I knew all along - meowscarada is the best pokemon
Ikr
Playing it casually I kept always thinking how ridiculously lucky I was getting....
Before remembering the crits and hits are automatic.
You mentioned a couple times that the run can have some RNG elements because of Paralyze/Confusion. Is there any possible way to pick up a covert cloak when you're buying your X items? There's apparently one on the ground in Montnevera but I imagine that fucks up way too much pathing to be an option.
Yeah it's just a bit too far for Glitchless. This is something we pick up in Glitched though since we head that way!
I want to know the routes for EXP. Candies.
I haven’t been able to find a map, or video specifically for the spots speedrunner use.
Little dod we know that the little weed cat would go from a meme and later a ripoff persona character to a world record holder and a nation wide menace and criminal to the no fly list.i feel so proud as part of the sprigattito hype gang
Poor arven my names trauma has been getting speedran so much bro
I can’t believe Sakamata Chloe complete disrespected Pink Guy like this. I love it.
What happened to the WR times? They don't seem to reflect the current standings
Meowscarda is the best grass type starter
Sceptile in the corner crying-
why is the record back up to 51:47, with second at 52, why were the others removed?
There were some rule changes to Turbo made that invalidated a few runs!
Maskaranya just keeps getting better and better
Spriggatito is 100% my favorite this gen.
"On how me and Chuggaconroy-" WHAT!!!! WOAH!!!
Flamigo is basically ‘The Boy Named Sue’ as a Pokémon.
Meowscarada is The Girl Named Mary. Flamigo is just The Universal Oversight. If he was Sue no creature could beat him period
Further proof that Meowscarada is the BEST Grass Starter yet! That's what I love to see. Also, a Relaxed Nature, because Speed IV's and growth are basically irrelevant? I'll admit, that's something I'd do, if I saw how steep the competition was, for this. Either way, VERY well done.
I didn't know that the best paldea starter was THIS good
considering how weak the grass type is in scarlet and violet,i'm kinda of surprised that sprigatito is an sv speed run mon
It was also #1 in usage in VGC for a while. This cat is busted, lol
I can't be entirely sure but I believe the sound at 11:28 is from super metroid.
cant lie, thought that thumbnail was calling weed cat a destroyer of worlds
Have you ever seen a shiny during a speedrun? Which one would you sacrifice?
Yes I have. 😂 twitter.com/PulseEffects/status/1605634791956676625
@@PulseEffects what did U do
Holy bingle, what a day
bro please use outros, making me go through adblock block element work or look up the leaderboard myself to see the end on pc
GarJAnacl absolutely killed me
I need the background song that starts around 3:25 please
Starters taking the win back once again, whoo!
Is grass knot affected by overgrow? If yes then you can have your cat in overgrow range before battle.
Isn't it worth it to equip covert cloak to avoid paralysis from body slam and speed drops from icy wind?
Unfortunately not! We don't get close enough to the Ghost Gym to pick it up or the Electric Gym to buy it.
You ever think pulse would do a 4 way race on violet and scarlet
It stole world records and my heart
3:27 BLJ never leaves nintendo
off topic but i hear the UNIB soundtrack in the background, cultured.
Why not go for a mixed attack cat with speed boosting nature?
THE GOD OF POKÉMON SPRIGATITO
hot take: flamigo is a resault of people running out of ideas
wait is skipping attack animations not an option anymore did they take that out
Yep.
Was not expectin persona 3 music at 8:37
Wat
Who were you saying gg to?
Out of curiosity, why did you keep leafage?
It has a really fast move animation. Since we're forced to keep animations on in Sc/Vi speedruns, a lot of the routing is based around using moves that can not only KO Pokémon easily, but also save time simply through the animation length.
Meowscarada broke another record too, although not within the time limit mentioned here. That record... well, ask Braixen and Gardevoir about that.
Tracer holds that record though
Pulse: DraTIEni
Me: Ah, another FlygonHG scholar, I see.
#CathOfLegends
Why use X Attack when using Flowertrick? Don't crits ignore stat changes? (mainly talking about the Tatsu fight)
Crits ignore stat drops, not increases!
@@PulseEffects oooh, did they change that? Ok granted -> change would mean since gen 1, cause the only speedruns I watched are gen 1 and they mention that a crit ends up doing less damage cause they ignore stat boosts so they were hoping to not crit. Maybe it was just wrong info alltogetjer tho idk
@@avocadothecat Yes, they changed it in Gen 2 to what it is now. Crits now ignore your stat drops and the opponent's stat buffs, but not your stat buffs or their stat drops.
@@VGV1deo ah thanks! I should have really looked that up. I played all my life thinking crits ignore everything - rip
I feel like such a boomer I don’t recognize these Pokémon. Back in my day we had solrock and dialga and even then I felt impressive for knowing like 5-600 👴
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Would've been nice to have had a scream warning near the end of the video... my poor eardrums 🤣
Honestly I didn't even know Flamigo was good. I choose Fuecoco as a starter, so I kinda want to learn how to do that cheese so I can climb lol
Flamigo is fantastic! Did you try it out yet?
@@BJGvideos Ye
@@Voidbear_FNaF_and_Undertale How did you like it?
@@BJGvideos Honestly I don't remember much on how it worked, I just temp used it on Dondozo lol
THE STAB GRASS KNOT :O
I’ve never been the one to hit like and bring it from 999 to 1k. Congratulations
Flamigo is out already? Hell yeah
This man pronounced Garganacl a third way, how does he keep doing this ;-;
Garganacl, Dondozo, Dratini
Imagine the amount of time saved if they just added the option to turn off the fucking battle animations
On god.
Looking at the leaderboards now, seems like some things have changed. Can I get an explanation
green cat my beloved