Space Engineers - Space Survival - Ep2 - Hunting down Cobalt and the elusive Magnesium!
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- Опубліковано 11 лют 2023
- Hi Everyone,
Welcome to the second episode of this semi-hardcore survival series, in this episode I attempt to locate some cobalt and magnesium, and then make a start on a rover that will help to locate ores on the nearest planet!
Thanks for watching! and if you liked this episode be sure to drop me a like and consider subscribing for Episode 3!!
List of mods used in this series.
Animation Engine - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
AQD Vanilla Ore Distribution - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
Build Vision 3.0 - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
Build Info - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
Cockpits Re-Animated - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
Edge Be Gone - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
Eyes Just Got Clear - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
High Range Ore Detectors - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
MES - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
No Lightning Damage - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
Rich HUD Master - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
Sneaky Sounds - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
Space Just Got Real - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
Speed Mod - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
Text HUD API - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
UfoL's Bullet Trails - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
Warfare II DLC Additions - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile... - Ігри
The credit you have in your inventory is separate from the credits you had available to purchase from the store. In your inventory you can see how many credits you have available on the top right. If you want to spend credits you find laying around you need to find/make a ATM and deposit them.
Also, your character starts with 10k credits by default.
Ahhh that explains it, thanks for letting me know, it's crazy how little I know about the economy update lol 😅
I think I saw an ATM inside the prt station not sure may have been a mission terminal.
@@RyuUrami All of these stations have ATMs in them as that is standard in them, unless you mod them out.
Stations will come with missions, ATMs and various vendors and purchasers.
Came to say this. You weren't cheating. You were simply transacting from what you had in digital reserves, not what you had in your pockets.
@@TheGarageGamer86 in the end, you paid double hehehehe
This is the result of putting 2 years on a single play through 🤣🤣. Because you forgot...on earth like ore patches show up black in green grass and ice and white on everything else. How you forget baisics 🤣🤣. Loving it so far 👍
Oh man it's slightly embarrassing lol
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That "Station" GPS marker was from your first episode. When you tried creating the first marker for the first asteroid you found, you hit "New" instead of the one for your location. The "New" GPS marker button sets a point to 0,0,0 by default.
Yeah a few people mentioned that before, whoops 😂😅
@@TheGarageGamer86 I've made that mistake myself, I think they should have named it "Custom" or something like that to make it more clear that you have to enter the coordinates yourself.
you in fact can add a large head to a small rotor by spawning the large head overhead and let it drop into place before attaching it.
it will take some finagling to get it to stick.
it looks absolutely ludicrous, but it will attach.
Ore doesn't spawn within 5-6 km around the trading stations. So there are no grey patches around them.
Thanks mate, that makes perfect sense now that you mention it. Just goes to show how much I still have to learn about the early game 😅🤣
Boulders of “Silicone”. 😉 You must be on “Planet Hollywood”! 🤣🤣
lol
Use the small grid advanced rotor 3x3 version, grind off the small head, fly directly over it and select the large advanced rotor head and drop it down onto the small grid base, then attach and hey presto, something you can mount a large ore detector onto. Ensure your grid has power, weld the rotor combo up and lock it in position before adding the ore detector, or it’s spin-tastic.
I ended up finally getting it to work in the next episode 😂. I had to use pistons to perfectly align it as it is super sensitive haha.
@@TheGarageGamer86 i saw the rig you used, I never would have thought of that lol, because the bigger rotor base is more forgiving I just assumed you couldn’t get the little one to attach.
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I usually place some unfinished blocks across the rover to set up a bracket for the ore detector to rest on - like a cradle of sorts. That usually prevents some of the alignment probs. But hang in there - part of the fun is solving the problems.
Yeah I ended up doing something similar but using the platform I was building the rover on for the same purpose lol
you should put lights on the bottom of your ship so when you land you can see the surface
Yeah that's definitely something I need to do 🤣😅
@@TheGarageGamer86 A camera would help too.
The center of the Earthlike is almost always at the center of the solar system in vanilla.
Stations sometimes sell Powerkits. Good item to carry for when your suit runs low on power.
Honestly sometimes I just forget they even exist, I was using them at the end of wasteland survival when digging that Silo because going back to the med bay all the time was so annoying 😂
Hello there! I've sen some of your videos mainly as tutorials 😋 In this case I didn't remember if there where an easy way to get the small rotor with the big part and finally I used my old way: build 2 pistons (in line with the small rotor) in L with a block at the end and place a Magnet, then attach the big detector; extend and retract until u get the big rotor part (attached to the detector obviously xD) and down it till your timers get it locked into the small rotor (I got the idea of timers from this video =P always did on my own hand 😑😩😞) I tried as you first with the ship, but after 10 minutes tried the pistons mode and worked at first jijiji.
So, here's the tip and my thanks for your videos bro. Greetings!!
Thanks for watching man, really appreciate it!! 😎👌 Yeah I done pretty much the same to get it attached in the thrid episode, but probably a slightly different setup than what you used 😉 I originally saw timers being used for this by Kanajashi a long time ago, that guy must have some crazy hours in this game lol.
😂😂 this is awesome to watch 😂 it’s like you are learning the game again 😂😂 really enjoying this series pal
Thanks mate! 😎👌 Yeah I feel like such a noob in the early game LOL it is certainly entertaining for myself as well as you guys trying to figure out what to do next 🤣
I love how you try to figure things out as you play! Loving everything so far!
I have seen that those little safe zone traders, every time you check them, there is a random chance that something else will be there, even if you take stuff, it just spawns some stuff.
Oh really? That's pretty cool 😎. I really need to spend a bit more time in those stations and have a look around, plus whoever built them done a fantastic job, they look gorgeous.
@@TheGarageGamer86 They are also great places to hide if enemies come for you because there is an absolute damage negation inside their shields.
Even if an enemy flies into the bubble to attack you, no damage can be done by either of you.
Grinder's don't even work. [this is also to keep the little shops from being ground down themselves] and aliens can't attack you.
So while physical actions can happen inside the bubble [like you could try to ram your ship into the base or into an enemy] no damage is ever counted.
In theory [and I have never tested this] you could fall from space, and if you land inside that bubble, neither you, nor your ship will be hurt, while just outside of the bubble there would be a massive crater and your ship would be nothing but a handful of scrap, and you might be stuck without a respawn point [unless it lets you respawn there in the base].
I tested your theory. It is correct. Just flew into the ground at 100m/s and bounced 😂
Just a FYI, those rocks as you call them have a habit of changing every time you reload the game. Might not be cobalt any more by the time you go back to it.
With any luck one of them will turn into Magnesium 🤣👌
Don't understand how ths guy only has 8k subscribers I would of thought content like this deserved a better following UA-cam's got to be a tuff gig
Thanks mate, I really appreciate that!! 😎👌. Yeah UA-cam is finnicky platform to grow on, it has taken me a very long time to get to this point, but I am getting there slowly and steadily 🤣
You need only one timer block for the magnetic effect in 57:00. Set the tb to "trigger now" itself with a delay of 1s and on the second slot "attach". Then press tb start 😉
Also need a large small grid rotor to connect a large grid rotor part
Ahhhh yeah of coarse!! oh well lesson learned 🤣👌.
I did eventually get it attached inbetween episodes, but I ground it all down and put it into the episode so you guys could see exactly how it is done 😎👌
Sitting on a couch to recharge has "The Dude" vibes.
Yeah I feel like that guy sitting on the moon watching Earth blow up 😅😂
Hey man it's good to dive into the trading side of things in the game. Making an auto shutte to an asteroid in gravity is class. The remote controller needs gravity for GPS but in the new update it'll probably be even better :) btw you've got a "deposited" credits balance seen in the UI, as well as the amount of credits on your person👌
*edit* use the 3x3 small grid advanced rotor 🤣
Yeah I have done a few missions here and there back in the day but I really need to brush up on the economy aspect of this game 😅🤣👍
Very entertaining episode, I thought you were done for when you got into that gravity well at the start! With regards to the rotor head, I'm pretty sure you need to use the bigger small grid rotor?
I'm gonna be honest, I totally forgot the 3x3 rotor even existed in the game 😅🤣. I usually don't mess around tooo much with small grid stuff as I usually just print off my existing blueprints lol it has been a loooooong time since I built something like this in survival, but I did end up getting it attached by using some pistons to perfectly align it 😎👌
If you use the disassemble feature, you can get the best hand tools possible using only a few disassembled metal grids and thruster components! Needs a large assembler though.
Yeah I waited way too late to get better tools LOL.
24:30 great intention that you dont want to cheat but keep calm. You paid for it. In Space Engineers you have an bank account where you get 10.000 Credits on entering the world the first time. You used that money to pay for the cobalt. It always used the bank account money first. I dont even know if its possible to use money inside of the inventory to pay for something. I think you need to deposit it first at an terminal
Yeah you are right, several people have mentioned that since I done that episode LOL, I totally didn't even notice, shows how much I use the Economy features 🤣
@@TheGarageGamer86 well. For everything is there a first time 🤣
I have watched both episodes going to the 3rd one and I just saw u reply to all comments. That's very cool (:
Thanks, I really appreciate it 😁👌. Yeah I try to keep up with the comments section, there are some fantastic ideas in here 😎👍.
Got this game yesterday cause I found your channel, one of fav games ever so far!
That is awesome dude!! 😎👌. Always love seeing comments like this, I was the same, I got into this game the same way so seeing this stuff is just next level awesome 😉
Would be cool to start off in different drop pods or whatever. I know the one I did last night you start with that small ship so I kinda liked it
Yeah this was quite nice to start with this drop pod, I have used the one that lands on planets with a parachute quite a few times so it's nice to do something fresh 😉👌.
I've seen other streamers also do what you're trying. I can't help but think though that you might just have the rotor part too low. I guess I'll find out next episode :)
Yeah I ended up getting it attached after posting the video, so I'll be showing that in the next episode, but essentially I just used two large grid pistons to align it and looking back at the way I was trying to align it with the ship was just never gonna work 🤣
Great video.
Thanks mate 😎👌.
Never in my save have I found colbalt, the respect I have for this man for searching.
Thanks mate 😎✌️
@@TheGarageGamer86 like honestly where on earth (I play on the earth/mars) do you find colbalt, I have the deep ores mod installed but never found any.
lol you rushed around like a mad man in that station, im not surprised you missed the atm and the actual credits you had in your inventory. The trades are different at stations. find out what they want, you can sell and maybe by a small ship.
Yeah I went through pretty quick, that's for sure! I'm not sure if I will put much time into the economy side of the game. My personal opinion is that the ships you buy are so not worth the asking price, because you would spend 10x the amount of time running the missions than you would actually mining, refining and building the ship yourself 🤣👌
My good man, getting a large grid on a small grid requires either opposite building, ie. you start with the detector, put rotor/hinge, get small head on it and then build your rover around it.
Or, much easier, since you are in gravity, make a 3x3 Advanced rotor where the top is flush with the top of the flatbed, then "drop" a large grid Rotor part on top of it. Now, first "rotor lock = ON, Rotor = OFF" otherwise it'll start spinning around. ALso, bear in mind that the rover itself MUST BE greater in mass then the large grid build on top off it, because otherwise it'll flip out (called "clang"), that's why second build method = best because no LG rotor/hinge. That said, better have also 4 small parachute then 1 big one....
I also would sujest you take enough material down to build a basic base down there, load the cobald etc in small "rockets" and usa a remote control to fly them to a gps near ye spaceship.
I also sujest you build a 2nd survival kit there so when (not if) your spaceship go BOOM, you would have a 2nd respawn point. 😉😜
Dude I think you just saved my bacon with the information about the rover needing to be heavier than the large grid head and attachment, in all the excitement I didn't even think about that!
I was considering making a seoncd base, but I think I will create an artificial limitation on myself to not do that, because I really want this series to focus on Space and the planets will just become mining locations as I have done soo much of my time in SE on planets and I like the challenge of not being on the planet. Mainly because the ores are so easy to obtain on the planet haha.
I will definitely put a second survival kit on the rover though, that will definitely be needed given my sketchy jet pack flying 😅😅.
Thanks for the suggestions man 😎👌
Watched and 👍 Liked
Thanks mate 😎👌
You can fit a basic refinery under your cargo container by removing the half blocks just a fyi.
Cheers 😎👌. Yeah I was thinking about adding a refinery to the ships, but I think I will convert it into a mining ship at some point 😁
You can build an atm and store the credits and see how many you have in total and they can be used at any time
Thanks mate, I will have to keep this in mind!! 😎👌
Explored the station, but managed to miss the only important room in there.
Yeah for sure! That's how I roll 😎👌
13:00 huh, that was the exact wording of my last performance review 🤔
😂
24:36 The vendors take money from your ATM account, not your inventory. The reason why your money went down is because you have money in your account. To add your inv money to your account, deposit it via ATM.
Lol, looks like someone already commented on that. Nm then. lol
I was able to attach the refinery to my ship, it makes everything so much easier
Yeah I decided not to go ahead with it, but in hindsight it might have been a better idea given that I could fly the ship towards the sun to charge batteries. That being said I kinda wanted a solid platform to build the rover on 😁
maybe some landing lights
bro really said "i really wish it wasnt nighttime tho" in SPACE 08:15 💀
Yeah poor choice of words 😅
GPS issue - if you placed in your planet after spawning in, like you created a empty world, then added planets, you likely placed it over roids and npc bases.
I think what I had done wrong was just create a new GPS Marker at 0,0,0 😅 Which in this starting scenario is the center of Earthlike 😂
That "Station" Marker is not the station at all, First, you have created an "NEW" marker last episode and rename it later on, and it sets all the coordinates to 0 by default, you have just rename it and not putting any coordinates in. You didn't use the option to Create marker from current location, you've just click "New"
Basically, that marker shows the center of the Map you are in (center of Earth planet).
Yeah I dunno how I managed to do that, I'll have to re-watch my own recording, I could have sworn I saved the co-ordinateds from the data pad in the flight seat before I started recording the first episode but I must have messed up somehow 😅
I was thinking, could you use connectors to attach the ore detector? As in, build a small grid connector on the rover, and a large grid connector on the detector, and clamp them together?
Not ideal, perhaps, but maybe easier to build?
Another idea is to build a crane on the rover, and use it with a magnetic plate to manipulate the detector into place. _maybe_ that would be easier than using the whole ship?
Btw, are you sure the rotor isn't mounted to low in the rover bed? I wouldn't know, but it occurred to me that it could be an issue.
Also, it always looks really precarious to me when someone builds wheels directly out from the bottom of a rover. I want to put the wheel suspensions about a block down.
I understand that making sure the rover isn't too tall and doesn't tip over is more important than a bit of extra ground clearance, but it just _feels_ wrong :-D
Don't forget to put a gyro or two on the rover, now. Also lights ;-)
Yeah you certainly can use a connector I guess 😎👌. I ended up getting it hooked up though by using some pistons and a little more patience than I had at the end of the episode 😅.
Yeah I'm hoping I don't need to take this rover into some serious terrain, but man this magnesium is proving to be illusive so who knows lol. I'm probably gonna put some atmo thrusters on it so it can fly around short distances when I need it to 😊 but yeah I'm definitely gonna neede gyro's for the descent 😊
@@TheGarageGamer86 Frankly, my feelings about ground clearance are very likely unfounded. Having a rover be too top heavy is probably more dangerous than having it be a bit low-slung. I just think it _looks_ scary.
Speaking of balance, I suspect gyros will be helpful in keeping the rover upright even on the ground, particularly in uneven terrain.
I'll be very interested to see how you will bring your freshly mined ore back to the ship. Something to look forward to.
have you thought of trying the 3x3 rotor for the small grid, as that one will attach to the large grid rotor head.
this will work 100%
@@0bigsteve69 yep, its how i put a large ore detector on my small grid rovers in the beginning of any game. Need the 150m range, although i do wish Keen would do something about that. Make some sort of tiered system for stuff.
I know there are mods, and i do use them sometimes, but most of the mods make things way too easy.
Currently loving the DNSK and Better Resources. 2 very very good mods
@@cabbageplays6710 another way is a hinge
You know what, I completely forgot that was even a thing if I'm being honest 😅. I did end up getting it attached though off camera, with some pistons to perfectly align it 😎👌
@@TheGarageGamer86 just have to do things the hard way. Lol
Seems you had an ID-10-7 error with designing your rover... conveyor junctions should always, always be used at the 4 and 6 positions (when thinking of the back of the cockpit as a phone dialer) and with the way you wanted the batteries, you could have gone with 4,5 and 6 and junctioned out from 5, surrounded batteries on either side to connect to a h2o2 generator... that way you wouldn't be wasting oxygen at all while using it in environs with low or no oxygen...
Yeah that's what happens when I design stuff in survival 😅🤣
i just realised that ship your on id the dhip from the main game never surrender i think it was you had to build a base with a small starter area
Really? I didn't realise that ship was in that scenario, mind you I have never really played any of the scenarios in this game 😅😅
FYI: Ore deposits dont exist within 6km of an NPC station
Massive facepalm LOL. Thanks for letting me know 😎👌
Should have taken over the SPRT base that you found that had thrusters, filled it and then taken the whole thing into orbit.
Oh inside those shielded areas your grinder is disabled unfortunately, but that would be awesome to be able to do that 😁👍
I always play with grass turned off... too bloody difficult to find ore patches otherwise
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Love it! 😂
There is a large small grid rotor that will allow you to attach large grid rotor heads to it hopefully that makes sense
Yeah it does, I did get it connected to the small small grid rotor though, I knew it was possible because I seen it done years ago long before the 3x3 small grid rotor came out 😎
Incase it hasn't been said you where on the right track with adding that rotary but you need the larger base for small grid. I doesn't work with the part you are currently trying to attach it to.
I managed to get it to work, I saw another guy do it a long time ago before those 3x3 small grid rotors cam into the game, I finally managed to achieve it in Episode 3 as well 😎😉
I dont think I have ever attached a small rotor to a large grid rotor head. I have, however, attached a small advanced rotor to a large grid advanced rotor head.
Was wondering if you would have more luck if you dropped just the rotor head without the ore detector. Ive used this trick before, but i cannot for the life of me remember how i managed to do it in the end
Yeah I think it would have been for sure, the ore detector made it lean forward a lot and I think that was one of the main issues 😅
5:35
You should not have said "lit up"
I agree with other comments about using a connector or big small grid hinge to connect the ore detector. Don't forget to put multiple parachutes on it as well if you can. If you can get some ice, it might be worth putting a small hyfrogen tank and a little thruster downwards for a gentle landing in emergencies.
Also, it's worth exploring the station further. If you can get easy acquisition missions (common items like small tubes or steel plates, anything easy to make or just basic ores) you can make easy money quickly. Then depending on what kind of station it is, you can buy some sweet items that will make life easier.
Thanks for an entertaining series. It has inspired me to get back into space engineers.
Apologies mate, I missed this comment somehow lol. Yeah I was thinking about using a connector but I had my hearts set on using a rotor, especially because I have a habbit of disconnecting the connectors when I press P to release the hand brake (and yeah I know you can disable that functionality but I always forget to lol).
I am glad you are enjoying the series mate 😎👌
What happend with the station gps marker was u mde a marker but u didnt make from your po so it made a marker at the 0 0 coords and then u thought it was your station so then u renamed it to station
Yeah I must not have copied the co-ordinates properly lol.
the fact that he wanted to wait for the sun when he's playing a space age game with lights
Psst, you start with 10k space credits. In your account, if you find an atm you'll see it.
Yeah totally missed that 😅
What about saving up and buying a ship from the trading posts?
You can do that, but you have to run a fairly obscene amount of missions to get the credits to buy something decent 😅 I think from memory I used the atlas in one of my saves to do a 25,00km delivery run and that made me about 1m credits, and some of the ships can be like 10+ Million credits lol.
You aren't cheating with your Cobalt purchase. Everyone is assumed to start with 10,000 credits in the bank, and the cash you have on your person needs to be put into an ATM to allow you to spend it.
Yeah I totally missed all of that 🤣🤣😅. Whoops 🤭
It's cool showing you going to ore deposits just don't show the journey to each one, that would be boring.
Block conflict.
Yeah it's funny you mention that, I didnt even see that until after the episode when I was trying to attach it, so I had to move it back to the position I had it in originally 😅🤣
Doesn't flying around at 500m/s with endless hydrogen on a jetpack make the game a little more trivial? I'd think limiting jetpacks to 10m/s would be more of a challenge.
Yeah but it would be way too tedious to create an episode, as I would spend like an hour flying and then 10 minutes recording, it's just not sustainable 😉🤔
Hey just so you know, the title should read elusive, not illusive. Illusive means mysterious, elusive means hard to find/it eludes you.
Thanks man, I changed it just then. You can tell that English was not my best subject in school 😅🤣
@@TheGarageGamer86 hey no worries, we're all here to look out for each other
Felt like this is cheating…proceeds to go onto the planet only using jet pack….
You start with 20k in the bank account
as usual, the inattentive author, the money must be handed over, in the menu above the character initially give 10,000 money😁
Yes, in this case definitely inattentive lol