Aston Villa: financial rebirth or reckoning???

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  • Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
  • What's the financial story behind Aston Villa's resurgence in the Premier League
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    In this video, we dive into the financial journey of Aston Villa as we follow the club through the relegation to the Championship & subsequent promotion and ascent in the Premier League!
    Don't miss out on the numbers behind the net, as well as all the ups and downs occurring at Villa Park!
    00:00 Intro
    01:29 Revenue
    02:52 Profit
    07:07 Cash
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    #avfc
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  • @willmunda403
    @willmunda403 2 місяці тому +5

    Watkins purchase never came from the Grealish sale so how much of your information is correct?

    • @NumbersBehindtheNet
      @NumbersBehindtheNet  2 місяці тому +2

      In terms of timeline, you're correct. We're referring to the £14.9m profit made in 2022 - where the £97.4m profit made in the Grealish sale is offset by £82.5m costs of transfers fees bought ("player registration amortisation") that includes Watkins.
      Source: find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/10176070/filing-history
      FY22 accounts page 13

  • @jamiebhx
    @jamiebhx 2 місяці тому +4

    Great video. Not sure what's happening with your mic tho 😅

  • @LTSurrenden
    @LTSurrenden 2 місяці тому +6

    Thanks

  • @willmunda403
    @willmunda403 2 місяці тому +5

    I think this is a rather poor article. I was hoping for some rather intelligent analysis and forecasting. Nothing here of value I’m afraid. Aston Villa had like all clubs has spent money. The wealthy V-Sports took over Villa in 2018-19 invested and won promotion. Bankrolled in a COVID-19 season, corrected the mistakes in appointing Gerrard with the appointment of Emery. With Emery at the helm Villa qualified for Europe, and is in the quarterfinals of a European competition, and is competing for a Champions League place. The migration a Championship squad to a Champions League squad within last 5 years is an astonishing feat. Other clubs are spending similar to just stay in the Premier League. You have made no mention of FFP or Profit and Sustainability Rules (PSR), or Uefa Financial Sustainability Regulations (FSR) and how that affects finances now and the future. I would expected you to include this with your forecasting in the coming years eg ‘secure funding’ proposals, UEFA ‘squad cost’ proposals etc etc. Aston Villa had wealthy owners. The multi-billionaires brought Villa for £30 million as a Championship team. Now they are 8 games away from being a Champions League team and imagine the financial appreciation of that investment should they qualify for the Champions League. Furthermore, the fact that you are writing about Aston Villa but cannot even pronounce Grealish properly further concerns me.

    • @NumbersBehindtheNet
      @NumbersBehindtheNet  2 місяці тому +2

      Certainly some valid points we'd have liked to have covered more if publicly available
      (we focus on the financial statements that, for what its worth, have been audited)
      Thank you for your extensive feedback and (at time of posting) the 9 other comments left on this video

    • @jkutv
      @jkutv 2 місяці тому

      Some very good points here. Far more depth and wider context needs to happen in these vids. Otherwise it feels relatively shallow in analytical terms which is compounded by inexplicably mispronouncing Grealish.

  • @njiu
    @njiu 2 місяці тому +2

    What is greatly missing from this video is: consequences.
    How will this impact FFP? Are Villa over the line? Expecting potential penalties?
    Watching this video I kind of expected the answers to these questions

    • @NumbersBehindtheNet
      @NumbersBehindtheNet  2 місяці тому +2

      100% fair criticism.
      We'd love to deal more with FFP but from publicly available info, only one club of the the Prem & Championship openly disclose their FFP/PSR adjusted profits.

    • @njiu
      @njiu 2 місяці тому

      @@NumbersBehindtheNet that's fair. You can likely understand my anxiety as a Villa fan over this! Respect

  • @josephbarber6140
    @josephbarber6140 2 місяці тому +2

    So if villa do get Ucl / sell another big player don’t overspend it will make a significant difference?

    • @NumbersBehindtheNet
      @NumbersBehindtheNet  2 місяці тому +3

      All would certainly help profits Joseph!

    • @dennisgoatimer1079
      @dennisgoatimer1079 2 місяці тому

      It would make a massive difference you get something like 30m for being in the group stage alone which with amortisation you could probably spend about 90-100m to cover the wages aswell. The main thing for us is the wages seeing as we moved back this year's end of year accounts to the end of June that leaves sometime to sell some players we've got plenty of bit part players we could sell before getting to big sales so that's going to be alright obviously there's the position money added onto that sadly Champions League would be in next years accounts (released 2026) but let's say worse comes to worse would I sell a big player or take a point deduction well it's a point deduction all day for me.

    • @willmunda403
      @willmunda403 2 місяці тому

      Villa don’t have to make profit. They are allowed to lose a small about every year without breaking FFP and the owners are not pressuring sale of big players for peanuts. The ambition to migrate a Championship Squad in 2019 to Champions League squad 2024 is certainly going to force massive investments. The appointment of Emery has been the master stroke, by improving the players he has bolstered the value of the squad and made Villa attractive for the best players to extend their contracts.

    • @josephbarber6140
      @josephbarber6140 2 місяці тому

      Yeah im not doubting the ambition of Aston Villa. I'm commenting to stay within financial regulations @@willmunda403

    • @josephbarber6140
      @josephbarber6140 2 місяці тому

      Interesting. Tactical point reductions. Is there something similar in F1 when you can change your tires more but you get a time penalty. Forgive me for the abstract metaphor but similar concept @@dennisgoatimer1079

  • @ben29424
    @ben29424 2 місяці тому +1

    can you do one for Plymouth argyle?

    • @ben29424
      @ben29424 2 місяці тому +1

      I want to see if it as sustainable and well run as everyone says

    • @NumbersBehindtheNet
      @NumbersBehindtheNet  2 місяці тому +1

      We'll look to add them to the pipeline - but may only have 4-5 years of full financial statements (as the years before that they took the option for small company reduced reporting

  • @domprice1183
    @domprice1183 2 місяці тому +1

    Who is drat grelish?

    • @NumbersBehindtheNet
      @NumbersBehindtheNet  2 місяці тому +2

      Would love to say it'll be the last name butchered on the channel but you never know. We do our best :)

  • @chrisphammond
    @chrisphammond 2 місяці тому +3

    20m PA front of shirt sponsorship over the next 2 years
    Adidas kit deal
    Potential CL, or at worst EL revenue including TV, sponsorship bonuses, tickets and merch sales
    Continuing sales of academy players
    Continuing sales of playing squad
    Continuing improvement of playing squad
    Additional revenue from Woman's team, Concerts, Hospitality
    PL/Conference League prize money
    Overseas tour targeting the USA Market
    Assuming Villa finish the season strongly, and make a few canny sales in the transfer market the sustainability of the club is in no doubt

    • @willmunda403
      @willmunda403 2 місяці тому +3

      He missed most of your points, that is why I find this article disappointing.

    • @chrisphammond
      @chrisphammond 2 місяці тому +1

      @@willmunda403and this was off the top of my head - the widely known stuff, behind the scenes there will likely be even more revenue streams!

    • @willmunda403
      @willmunda403 2 місяці тому +2

      @@chrisphammond the fact that the financial appreciation when you buy a Championship club and convert it to a Champions League club is also not factored in.

    • @chrisphammond
      @chrisphammond 2 місяці тому +1

      @@willmunda403 yeah exactly they bought Villa for around £100m if I remember rightly? They sold JG for that. The other thing the video doesn’t mention is that 100% profit from academy players is (I believe) treated differently when calculating the allowable losses. The owners know what they are doing and as you say, if a new buyer came in for Villa they’d have to dig a lot deeper than £100m. And again conscious I don’t know it all and there have been debts paid off etc as well.

    • @willmunda403
      @willmunda403 2 місяці тому +1

      @@chrisphammond Villa has no debts, like Fulham and Chelsea.
      Aston Villa was bought in June 2016 by Chinese businessman Tony Xia bought the club for £76 million. Sawiris and Edens bought Aston Villa when the club was in the Championship in 2018 for an estimated £30 million though by the end of 2022 had invested more than £85 million in the club that has seen the club promoted back to the Premier League in 2019.

  • @SwiftyDeejay
    @SwiftyDeejay 2 місяці тому +3

    Great video. Can you do an NUFC video please and hopefully explain why we couldn’t even afford to get Kalvin Phillips on loan (not that it’s a bad fate by the looks of things!).

  • @jkutv
    @jkutv 2 місяці тому +5

    Greeelish not grelish

    • @NumbersBehindtheNet
      @NumbersBehindtheNet  2 місяці тому +2

      Would love to say it'll be the last name butchered on the channel but you never know. We do our best :)

    • @jkutv
      @jkutv 2 місяці тому +1

      @@NumbersBehindtheNet are you using AI for the voice over? Jack Grealish is pretty famous England international I'm wondering how you managed butchering the pronunciation - that's a genuine question not a dig.

    • @NumbersBehindtheNet
      @NumbersBehindtheNet  2 місяці тому +1

      Don't let 'perfect' be the enemy of 'good' - plus who would pay for that AI reading?! :)

    • @jkutv
      @jkutv 2 місяці тому +2

      @@NumbersBehindtheNet guessing you/your voice over man is not a footy fan then and the channel is more of way to garner attention and the channel background is more financial with a side of passing football interest? As it's inexplicable to mispronounce Grealish's name.

  • @andybarker8787
    @andybarker8787 2 місяці тому +1

    Grelish? Sounds like what you get on a burger 😂😂

    • @NumbersBehindtheNet
      @NumbersBehindtheNet  2 місяці тому +2

      Would love to say it'll be the last name butchered on the channel but you never know. We do our best :)

  • @stephenbell8349
    @stephenbell8349 2 місяці тому +1

    Champions League, sponsorships and sale of peripheral players and we're fine

  • @brumbykj
    @brumbykj 18 днів тому

    Now they've lost their fans data..😅 Team isn't the only thing goin to Europe..The fans bank details are already on there way..😅

  • @najnaj2896
    @najnaj2896 2 місяці тому +1

    Owners from abroad never trust running your club anytime they will sale the club.

  • @paultyler7535
    @paultyler7535 2 місяці тому +1

    So…. Are we broke or not? 🤷‍♂️

    • @Brad-tv3vs
      @Brad-tv3vs 2 місяці тому +1

      No never been ‘broke’ top 10 richest owners in europe 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @willmunda403
      @willmunda403 2 місяці тому +1

      No not broke. You are allowed to lose some money whilst investing and the investment is paying off. Aston Villa has improving fortunes on and off the field. Champions League and top 4 finish will bolster commercial value and further investment.

  • @villainofthepiste8275
    @villainofthepiste8275 2 місяці тому +3

    It’s pronounced Gree lish
    If you can't get that simple task correct, what's to say the rest of the video isn't completer BS

    • @NumbersBehindtheNet
      @NumbersBehindtheNet  2 місяці тому +1

      Would love to say it'll be the last name butchered on the channel but you never know. We do our best :)
      Sources all referenced within the video

  • @kevan4642
    @kevan4642 2 місяці тому +2

    Sell leon Bailey, Villa ain't a big 6 club in his eye's and he wants too go to Madrid or Chelsea. Dont say i didn't told you all. Lol

    • @AOTW658
      @AOTW658 2 місяці тому +2

      But they are not

    • @bertiew6771
      @bertiew6771 2 місяці тому +4

      Lower Premier League club like Chelsea? Why would Bailey want to go to that Mickey Mouse club?

    • @willmunda403
      @willmunda403 2 місяці тому +2

      Bailey wasn’t talking about leaving Villa. He was talking about the achievement of his fellow Phoenix Academy graduate Dujan ‘Whisper’ Richard in joining Chelsea at 18. If he wanted to leave he wouldn’t have just signed a new contract in Feb 2024.

    • @johnnybambi
      @johnnybambi 2 місяці тому +1

      Villa are bigger than chelsea

    • @kevan4642
      @kevan4642 2 місяці тому +1

      @@johnnybambi lol, are you serious 🤣