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  • @Bruh-bk6yo
    @Bruh-bk6yo 2 місяці тому +227

    As it was in a saying, in russian at least: knights and bishops are like a hat and a boot. In the winter, the hat is more useful than a lone boot, but better to pick a pair of boots over two hats.
    (In this context - the knight is the hat and the bishop is the boot)

    • @faizameen2170
      @faizameen2170 Місяць тому +8

      The two bishops be unstoppable in the winter though 😂

    • @chad1755
      @chad1755 Місяць тому +4

      Haha that's a great analogy. For me if there are a decent number of pawns on the board and it comes down to a single piece, knight vs bishop, I'll generally take the knight because it can fight on both squares. A single bishop is blind to half the board. I would almost say a knight is worth 3 points, a bishop is in most cases worth 3.25 points, but the bishop PAIR is probably worth 7 points and will run circles around a single rook.

    • @darthzackariusnickthenamethede
      @darthzackariusnickthenamethede 29 днів тому

      @@chad1755 Bishops have one important advantage over knights: newer players have a hard time keeping track of bishops. They can easily blunder a bishop snipe from across the board. Speaking from experience here.

    • @czer096
      @czer096 23 дні тому +1

      ​@@darthzackariusnickthenamethedebut also a beginner easily forked with a horse

    • @adityapacharne5688
      @adityapacharne5688 23 дні тому

      Instructions unclear i pissed in my pants

  • @charlespg3d190
    @charlespg3d190 2 місяці тому +270

    answer: Engines have shown Bishops are slightly better. Bobby fischer says Bishops are 3.25 points while Kasparov says 3.15 BUT knights can be annoying for as they can jump all over the place and is more likely to fork, whereas with a bishop the pawns can be placed on the opposite colour

    • @random_memes_68419
      @random_memes_68419 2 місяці тому +17

      Imo, at lower levels knights can be useful but at high levels, bishops are for sure better

    • @hackstargaming1253
      @hackstargaming1253 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@random_memes_68419i agree 👍

    • @bgshorts7533
      @bgshorts7533 Місяць тому

      @@random_memes_68419not for sure a queen can be worse than a bishop sometimes

    • @tongpoo8985
      @tongpoo8985 Місяць тому +5

      Knights are a lot harder to calculate accurately for. For engines and top level GMs in classical, bishops are better. But in blitz/bullet and for low rated players, knights can be difficult to manage. Especially if there is only one bishop, then half the squares on the board are completely inaccessible to it, so as long as you keep your pieces on the opposite color complex, you don't have to worry about most tactics outside of the bishop participating in a mating net.

    • @AkashYadav-qs1cv
      @AkashYadav-qs1cv Місяць тому

      Shut up jerk, Knights are better than Bishops in mid-game. Knights are far better than Bishops in opening and Middle game where people like you don't even reach.

  • @keithg460
    @keithg460 Місяць тому +38

    Knights can smothermate kings.
    They are best to attack queens.
    They are harder to calculate.
    They are better in close quarters.
    They attack without a direct line of sight.
    At the end of the day, the preference depends on the layout of the board.

  • @mikesmithz
    @mikesmithz Місяць тому +23

    I think it depends on who I'm playing. Some players are terrified of knights and some are terrified by bishops. I have played against people who just fall to bits once I get an active knight. So for me, I like both pieces equally, but it's my opponent who guides me into choosing between the 2.

    • @thechaparral
      @thechaparral 25 днів тому +2

      Nice point of view. I am better using knights than bishop and I dont like when my opponent has 2 bishops, I am always in trouble hahaha

    • @mikesmithz
      @mikesmithz 24 дні тому +1

      @matheusbraga2909 I have to admit, I definitely fall into the "terrified of knights" camp. When I play against the computer, he obliterates me once he gets his knights active (or an early knight attack). I can handle the bishops...but those forking knights are a pain when they are used by someone who knows what they are doing.

  • @stephen3293
    @stephen3293 2 місяці тому +9

    This channel deserves more love. So much effort put into this!

  • @Luna________
    @Luna________ Місяць тому +28

    I really have a blind spot for knights. It can happen with the sniper bishop too but with the knights it's just so much worse and i blunder forks that lose me the game way too often

    • @polarvortex3294
      @polarvortex3294 26 днів тому +1

      Just imagine what it was like when knights first gained their jump-over power. Guys must have been getting surprised left & right.

  • @Player763ZIZ4Z
    @Player763ZIZ4Z 23 дні тому +3

    at 1:07 he completely neglected the fact that with the bishop applying pressure black can block with knight to f5 and that knight is protected by a pawn that's on e6

  • @klaptonr
    @klaptonr 2 місяці тому +5

    A bishops relative value is more volatile but better on average. In engames having a bishop pair is invaluable, allthough having only one bishop might result in your opponent restructuring their color complex, shutting it out.

  • @ghostmantagshome-er6pb
    @ghostmantagshome-er6pb Місяць тому +11

    I got better with knights when I stopped thinking of the move as an " L" ,one,two, over.
    I started looking at the squares next to it on the rank and file and then the diagonal ones that fork from it. I could see two moves at once. Also the piece made more sense when it didn't
    " jump over " pieces. It began to look like a hybrid super pawn and the continuity of how the pieces move makes more sense.
    I read it in the beginning of "Bobby Ficher teaches chess".
    Oh, and they take turns on the colors they can move to. If a knight is on a dark square it can only land on a light square and visa versa.

  • @Fitness_Club147
    @Fitness_Club147 Місяць тому +7

    5:10 the arrows with the night look like a spider

  • @GMPranav
    @GMPranav 19 днів тому +1

    Knights have some serious buffs in some of the chess variants too - like atomic chess. So in the bigger bigger picture things are balanced.

  • @Arsenniy
    @Arsenniy 2 місяці тому +3

    nice vid

  • @Dante-yb4he
    @Dante-yb4he Місяць тому +28

    At low elo knights are nightmare for any player at high you gotta save your bishops

  • @soakedbearrd
    @soakedbearrd 24 дні тому

    I know objectively bishops are slightly better, but in my games I seem to do better with knights than with bishops. Call it pattern recognition or whatever, but I almost always prefer knights. Only exception is the bishop pair, I’ll take two bishops over two knights, but again it’s situational, the knights would be better in a closed position and the two bishops can get caught up facing walls. That being said, two bishops in an open position is murder. Good video btw especially tips on knight avoidance.

  • @LarzinPvp
    @LarzinPvp 2 місяці тому +2

    Nice video fr

  • @dariusjain2493
    @dariusjain2493 Місяць тому +10

    but knights are insane in middlegames and begining

    • @A7MDRetr0
      @A7MDRetr0 Місяць тому +1

      Depends on the position

    • @katmanduYT
      @katmanduYT Місяць тому +1

      No shit buddy ​@@A7MDRetr0

  • @mikeymcmikeface5599
    @mikeymcmikeface5599 Місяць тому

    great insights - thanks

  • @neolithictransitrevolution427
    @neolithictransitrevolution427 17 днів тому

    If you can trade your Knights in the early game to keep a more open center, then the bishop pair is very strong and you should try to keep until the end game.
    If you have your pawns completely controlling a colour, that colours bishop is basically paralyzed and the game is probably closed, so trade it early and trade the opposite bishop by the end of the middle game, and keep the knights for the end game (unless beneficial or a lost cause obviously)
    Those are my rules for thier value.

  • @seranganalambaka7354
    @seranganalambaka7354 25 днів тому

    im low elo, and this is the best video chess I watch

  • @francecountryball9413
    @francecountryball9413 13 днів тому

    If position is closed bishops are not that useful
    If position is opened
    Bishops are beast

  • @mmmu9638
    @mmmu9638 15 днів тому

    This video changed the way I see knights

  • @kingsgambit7098
    @kingsgambit7098 Місяць тому

    Your pawn structure often dictates which piece is better. A rook is often better than two minor pieces in an endgame, but the two minor pieces are better in the opening/middle game. Not surprising when you find out that two rooks are better than or equal to three minor pieces.
    The point is that it really depends on the position. Sometimes a queen is better than two rooks or a knight&rook is better than a queen. The one thing we can be certain of is that the pawns are the most important pieces on the board as they define the structure.
    Chess is a beautiful game that has a lot more than tactics.

  • @letsnotgothere6242
    @letsnotgothere6242 18 днів тому

    You sound like Michael Crouch, the guy who narrated My Side of the Mountain on Audible👍🏻

  • @Thoughtful_Thought
    @Thoughtful_Thought Місяць тому +2

    Thannks

  • @ShadowShadow-j8c
    @ShadowShadow-j8c Місяць тому +25

    In endgame with bishop opponent can put all pieces in opposite colour making it useless, so I'd prefer to have a knight

    • @justsaadunoyeah1234
      @justsaadunoyeah1234 Місяць тому +1

      Yeah good reason but bishops can control squares and with the king they can do a gorgeous job when pushing the king away. They can easily make a wall and make space. So I prefer bishop in endgames but knights are still okay.

    • @geoffreygeorge999
      @geoffreygeorge999 Місяць тому +1

      a knight is better if the pawns our on the same side while a bishop is superior if they are on opposite sidew

    • @jerviswinter3236
      @jerviswinter3236 Місяць тому

      If you have a Bishop vs a Knight in an endgame, you should push your pawn and try to make a queen. Knights can't attack and defend at the same time especially if it is at the opposite side of the board so use that to your advantage.

    • @justsaadunoyeah1234
      @justsaadunoyeah1234 Місяць тому

      @@jerviswinter3236 oh wow bro in an endgame you have to push your pawns thank you for telling me this i definitely didnt know already and everyone else in the world who has a brain didnt know this already

  • @vyrtilanyrwen3071
    @vyrtilanyrwen3071 27 днів тому +1

    Look, at the end of the day, it’s all very dependent on the position. If it’s a question about trading your bishops for knights, your knights for bishops, or a question of making any other trade, you shouldn’t care about whether what comes off the board is materially equal. It’s not about what comes off the board, because those pieces can no longer play (unless you’re playing bughouse). It’s entirely about what stays on the board. What’s the quality of the pieces left on the board like? Are your pieces active? Are they pressuring your opponent’s position? You know, if you’re up a rook, but my pieces are mating your king, it doesn’t matter that you’re up a full rook. The quality of what’s left on the board for me is better, and your king is still getting mated. But hey, at least you can die with a full stomach.
    And, actually, a pretty simple rule of thumb for trading is to ask yourself whether the trade will help you or harm your opponent. If it does neither, the trade probably isn’t worth it. And this is actually a pretty big part of strategic chess. It’s a lot about looking at the good pieces your opponent has vs the bad pieces you have and trying to come up with plans to get rid of your bad pieces for your opponent’s good pieces. Well, that among other things.

    • @lalalalalala-xf1vg
      @lalalalalala-xf1vg 25 днів тому

      obviously it depends on the position, even a pawn in some cases can be better than a queen if it's mating the enemy king or if it's close to promoting, that said, can you really say that a pawn is relatively equal to a queen depending on the position? obviously not, because everyone knows that the queen that queen is worth 9 points and a pawn is only worth 1 point. the main point of this discussion is to understand which piece would be better in most cases, or in an equal/quiet position. and obviously, the answer for that is the bishop as top grandmasters and even the computer all says that the bishop is better than a knight. there's no argument for this if we look at things objectively, but in lower elo and in blitz or bullet, I'd say that the knight is better than a bishop

    • @vyrtilanyrwen3071
      @vyrtilanyrwen3071 25 днів тому

      @@lalalalalala-xf1vg, all I was saying is that you need to be careful applying general rules universally. The material table can be a helpful guide for determining what trades are equal, but it ultimately just depends on the position. Don’t just make a trade because it’s equal material points on both sides of the trade. For instance, trading two minor pieces for a rook and a pawn when, uh oh, it’s still a middlegame position where you’d be better off having minor pieces vice a rook. Players very often hear a general rule and try to over-apply that rule, and while it will usually work, that’s not always the case, I’m just trying to caution against over-applying this general rule.

  • @Din2010-yv3bb
    @Din2010-yv3bb Місяць тому +2

    According to the position is how we know if the Knight or the Bishop is better

  • @danielszczypka6977
    @danielszczypka6977 14 днів тому

    Depends. But overall Bishop is about 3.15, Knight 2.7; 3 pawns are very good compensation for Knight.

  • @Anonymityfan
    @Anonymityfan 25 днів тому +1

    Most GM's say bishops

  • @hershelfowler6257
    @hershelfowler6257 Місяць тому

    When my opponent is shaking their head after both knights have infiltrated their position. I say " Oh no look who they let through the backdoor. Obi wan and Anakin, Jedi Knights." But i like bishop's for end game. Its easier to escort pawns, attack pawns, and harass rooks without alot of calculating.

  • @PurpleSkies_
    @PurpleSkies_ Місяць тому

    This is truly 1000 elo analysis structured in a way to pander 9yr olds.

  • @AidanMoore-y1u
    @AidanMoore-y1u 2 місяці тому +2

    Low elo knight beats Low elo bishop
    Mid elo bishop beats Mid elo knight
    High elo bishop beats High elo knight
    GM knight beats GM bishop

    • @A7MDRetr0
      @A7MDRetr0 Місяць тому

      Engines have proven bishops are slightly better

    • @justsaadunoyeah1234
      @justsaadunoyeah1234 Місяць тому +2

      GM knight loses against GM Bishop

  • @vroomcar6328
    @vroomcar6328 2 місяці тому +2

    Really helpful thank you

  • @XChaka
    @XChaka Місяць тому +2

    Finally!! Bishops are bettter

  • @igtre6270
    @igtre6270 24 дні тому +1

    Funny. Thank you.

  • @KokichiAyanokoji
    @KokichiAyanokoji 12 днів тому

    Pt2 pls

  • @Canary_10
    @Canary_10 23 дні тому

    0:53 i would play Bc2 sacrificing the knight because mate

  • @Cameraman_edits765
    @Cameraman_edits765 29 днів тому

    an alfil is 3.20 knight is 3.25 and "a piece that jumps over one square verticaly and horizontally" is 3.30

  • @nathantecson396
    @nathantecson396 8 днів тому

    Bishops are better. This is engine supported, and even before super engines bobby fischer already believes bishops are worth more than 3 points. Kasparov also supports this.
    But just like there are situations where a 3 point piece is better than a rook (5 points), there will definitely be situations where a knight is better than a bishop.
    The main reason why bishops are generally better is that they can control more squares on the board than a knight. This is why bishop pairs are so strong.
    However, mortals like us have nothing to do with the engine, kasparov or bobby fischer's level. Beginner and intermediate is where most people actually are, and they are far more likely to miss a knight move because its not just following an open straight line.
    I noticed so many people in the intermediate trade their knight for a bishop so quickly, yet they will not be able to explain to me why a bishop is better and why that knight was less valuable than my bishop in the given position.

  • @CheeseballTheClown
    @CheeseballTheClown Місяць тому

    Bishops are very annoying my favorite piece is the rook but the knight has just a way to be different but effective and knights aren’t annoying as long as your carefully unless if they are defend knights are gods at defending diagnosing from queen or bishops

  • @kylemariano6624
    @kylemariano6624 Місяць тому

    Imagine pressuring the player so much the bishop breaks the laws of chess 😭😭💀💀

  • @tyrano_gaming4683
    @tyrano_gaming4683 Місяць тому

    An arm made of "forgot to make other arm"

  • @judahdadone9410
    @judahdadone9410 28 днів тому

    “Camping conditions” = outpost!

  • @jahmeergordy205
    @jahmeergordy205 Місяць тому

    The true answer is whatever piece I have at that moment, I control the effectiveness of my pieces not the other way around.

  • @bulatomat
    @bulatomat Місяць тому +1

    Real answer : it really depends on what skill level you are and the position

    • @hongxiawang2049
      @hongxiawang2049 18 днів тому

      Ok yeah but with that there are certain positions where a knight is better than a rook but are they equal?

    • @bulatomat
      @bulatomat 17 днів тому

      @hongxiawang2049 can you clarify? I don't understand how a knight can be equal and better than a rook at the same time

  • @peterreid9769
    @peterreid9769 29 днів тому

    I much prefer playing against Bishops than Knights.

  • @nict4343
    @nict4343 25 днів тому +11

    Me, a 900elo, have already solved this years ago. Two bishops is better than two knights. One knight is better than one bishop.

    • @Daniel-__
      @Daniel-__ 20 днів тому +1

      While the bishop pair is certainly stronger than a knight pair, there are many nuances that requires these positional distinctions. You can stuff a bishop’s movement with two pawns in a closed position while a knight finds a brutal octopus fortress - or a knight can be on the wrong side of the board as a bishop exerts pressure on long, open diagonals. The reason why the “bishop is better than knight” heuristic works is because most popular openings lead to rather open endgame with often two pawn islands - perfect for a bishop to both defend and attack. Of course, on the flip side, a closed pawn structure that might emerge from a French or more offbeat opening like a hippopotamus have strong, positional knights that seek holes in the position to occupy.
      This is the entire basis of imbalances - the idea that different pieces at different positions have different strengths depending on the different positions. Of course, a material advantage is a more static kind of advantage compared to good positioning, but as many gambits will show, piece coordination can be worth far more than a pawn - and especially more so than some 15 centipawn material advantage heuristic.

    • @Manu-rt3mp
      @Manu-rt3mp 18 днів тому +1

      u are 900 for a reason, chill

    • @TheChadPad
      @TheChadPad 14 днів тому

      Two Knights seem just as good as two Bishops. Bishops are easily blocked, but if you have two Knights, there is no blocking them.

    • @Daniel-__
      @Daniel-__ 13 днів тому

      @@TheChadPad Again, a piece's worth is dependent on the position, so any "x is better than y" argument has counter examples, but I think generally a bishop pair is stronger than a knight pair just because of the checkmate potential and maneuverability in the endgame. Getting two knights in your opponent's side can wreak havoc (especially because they can team-up on a weak square while a bishop pair cannot), but generally it's easy enough to avoid these positions by clamping down on knight maneuverability with your pawns and pieces. Sometimes a better player will be able to maneuver to get a knight outpost, but two knights in your backlines sounds like bad positioning

    • @TheChadPad
      @TheChadPad 13 днів тому

      @ Well, perhaps bad positioning, but perhaps good play from the Knight player. I think they’re equal, as there are a million positions that each of them would be good in, like you said. I think the traditional weighting of points for each, 3 and 3, is correct.

  • @chastitywhiterose
    @chastitywhiterose 18 днів тому

    Bishops are objectively better but humans have a hard time predicting my knight forks.

  • @medfirasjrad4113
    @medfirasjrad4113 2 місяці тому +1

    Knight and rook can mate without the help of the king

  • @Cr0c.
    @Cr0c. 2 місяці тому +10

    imo bishops are better

  • @ThePaulGomes
    @ThePaulGomes 27 днів тому

    Bishops > Knights for me all day. Sniping is fun

  • @bahwateengezeur7516
    @bahwateengezeur7516 23 дні тому

    I just ask myself will this be a knight or a bishops game?

  • @SLAsher-rr9fg
    @SLAsher-rr9fg 26 днів тому

    Only one can't touch every square…

  • @WilHars
    @WilHars 2 місяці тому

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @medfirasjrad4113
    @medfirasjrad4113 2 місяці тому

    And knights can jump on top of the pieces and we fork ausually with him

  • @kukulis100
    @kukulis100 18 днів тому

    bishop better than knight, except queen+knight duel.

  • @THEarrasBuddhist
    @THEarrasBuddhist Місяць тому

    Yeah, hardest choice

  • @jozsefkovats7250
    @jozsefkovats7250 18 днів тому

    1:10 why not use the knight now? if they push their pawn then u can take for free with ur queen?

  • @rameshadhikari8092
    @rameshadhikari8092 26 днів тому

    I fear knight more than rook

  • @chewbaccasaw5232
    @chewbaccasaw5232 Місяць тому +3

    Knight is melee
    Bishop is archer

  • @pokethegreat4145
    @pokethegreat4145 2 місяці тому +1

    Knights are cooler so knights

  • @dessinart6692
    @dessinart6692 24 дні тому

    Knight moves on L like legendery

  • @Newtopsito
    @Newtopsito Місяць тому +3

    fischer said it

    • @tiagobordin6580
      @tiagobordin6580 Місяць тому

      at his level bishops are better, not at my level

  • @medfirasjrad4113
    @medfirasjrad4113 2 місяці тому

    And he is the best piece for forks

  • @puppet9577
    @puppet9577 23 дні тому +1

    Ok a bit of a change of subject but the bishop is worth 3 points and the rook is worth 5 and a queen is worth 9 but 5+3 dosent equal 9 my first thought was that the queen cant castle and thats why rooks are worth more than bishops but that would mean that the queen should be 8 points and the bisop would still be four let me know if anybody has a anwser to this and also if the bishop should be worth 4 and the knight should stay at three because 2 knights is a draw and and 2 bishops is a win

  • @HridaanNaik
    @HridaanNaik 17 днів тому

    BOTH ARE EQUAL.

  • @TheGushroom
    @TheGushroom 23 дні тому

    Does Margaret know that you are using her photo in the thumbnail as clickbait?

  • @iBMcFly
    @iBMcFly Місяць тому

    ""Which is better"----that literally depends on A-the pawn structure in the middle game. B-Pawn location in the end game.
    The position dictates the value of the minor pieces, and the 3 pt valuation has been proven to be accurate over time because of the points mentioned above.

  • @KiaanAvyaan
    @KiaanAvyaan Місяць тому

    Bishop weaker

  • @michael2244
    @michael2244 Місяць тому

    Knight is better than bishop 🐴

  • @JD-xz1mx
    @JD-xz1mx 29 днів тому

    "that might be unethical in chess terms"
    Oh quite the opposite. Its unethical in Chess terms to shame someone for utilizing the clock. The ethics of the game *are* the games' rules. The clock is every bit as much a part of the game as the knights and bishops. Getting upset with a player for leveraging time advantage is no different than getting upset with them for leveraging a material advantage. It is fundamentally ridiculous and ought to be embarrassing for the one doing the shaming, not the one leveraging the fairly won advantage fully in accordance with the game's own intended play design.

  • @Mu7amed-Osama
    @Mu7amed-Osama Місяць тому +4

    Am I the only one calling the knight horsey 😂😂

  • @thichchuianti
    @thichchuianti Місяць тому

    25/9/2024

  • @lehoangtong654
    @lehoangtong654 Місяць тому +2

    2:52 Weakness

  • @tiagobordin6580
    @tiagobordin6580 Місяць тому

    Bobby and Stockfish think bishops are better. Who do you think you are? A super GM? If not, like me, knights are much harder to deal with.

    • @fahimfuad92
      @fahimfuad92 Місяць тому

      That's another way of saying skill issue

    • @justsaadunoyeah1234
      @justsaadunoyeah1234 Місяць тому

      You just have a skill issue u 200.

    • @justsaadunoyeah1234
      @justsaadunoyeah1234 Місяць тому

      At my level, Bishops are way more effective

    • @tiagobordin6580
      @tiagobordin6580 Місяць тому

      @@justsaadunoyeah1234 you must be good bro, but not at my level and for most of the players 🤣

  • @aaronwong235
    @aaronwong235 Місяць тому +4

    Duh, the rook is better because it's worth 5 points

    • @katmanduYT
      @katmanduYT Місяць тому

      Wow beta 🔥🔥🔥

  • @karloballa6476
    @karloballa6476 25 днів тому

    Lot of b******s. Bishop is probably on average a little more often a better piece than knight, mostly when paired with another bishop, but here in the video so many dogmas are stated that it is unbelievable. I advise the author to look at the game Anthony Saidy vs Robert James Fischer in 1964.

  • @BobChess
    @BobChess 2 місяці тому +1

    I love bishops pair. Knights pair is horrible

    • @szarixon2798
      @szarixon2798 27 днів тому

      The only advantage a knight pair has is the fact that they can defend each other. However they get sluaghtered by a bishop pair in an endgame even with pawn up sometimes.

    • @BobChess
      @BobChess 27 днів тому

      @@szarixon2798 Fact, but it's still worse than 2 bishops by a lot. It's good only when position is close.

  • @KuroiRenge
    @KuroiRenge 16 днів тому

    If we took the human element out of Chess, the Bishop is better.

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    @YourIceKing Місяць тому

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