wiley is the one making himself look like the aggressive idiot, ed sheeran stayed quite because he knows he doesn't need to speak, that wiley guy is nonstop talk its so jarring
For real man Wiley is a creator of a fully Established sound, that’s a mad level of responsibility and it’s his life’s work. people have made it out of the hood simply by his creation of music a sound. Grime will always be the original sound of the uk roads.
This ain’t funny, he spoke to that radio host like she was muck, he needs to learn some respect and how to coherently string a sentence together before acting like someone important. He should take a few English lessons at least.
Everyone here kissing Ed's ring but in all honesty Wiley has a solid point.... If someone came in and out of your sister as and when you'd have something to say but when it's Ed and grime it's okay but grime can't f with Ed
@Big G Ed and Wiley released 2 songs together in 2011, one was on Ed's No.5 collaborations project and one was Ed featuring on Wiley's song. they are both still available on spotify etc. Ed's new record label just didn't want Wiley to release their song on the same week as Ed's new single. and in 2017 Wiley said to NME that Ed was a godlike genius etc. Wiley just rants and raves, and takes it all back again
I get why he would be upset. But ed said it himself. All he did was ask to move the day..he never said no😂im not seeing anyone talk about eds response to the situation. i will say i dont know much on wiley, but id rather believe Ed over someone who apparently starts plenty of beef from thin air.
A lot of respect for both artists but Wiley ain't lieing I first ever heard ed and saw him on tv from the song "you need me I dont need you" which I'm sure blew him up wasn't that considered grime? I'm sure he made other songs that wasn't grime but he didn't blow from those.
@@whipasnaper Same time as the collaborations ep. All of that was a part of the promo run for it. He came up through grime, I'm a huge fan of Ed Sheeran and have been since day one, as a musician myself I studied his journey hard.
You Need Me, I Don't Need You is more of a rap song, and Ed started recording that in 2008, his No.5 Collaborations Project wasn't recorded until later in 2010 and released early 2011 and didn't include that song, or release any singles from it. Ed had performed YNMIDNY on SBTV in 2010 and had an independent YNMIDNY EP then, later recorded an updated version for his debut album Plus "+" in 2011.The A Team was written in 2009, released early 2010 as seen by the official music video, and that's the song that made Ed famous and is known for, he was even nominated for a Grammy award for Song Of The Year in 2012, and he performed The A Team with Elton John.
@@veronicam2935 😂 you riding hard for ed on this channel I respek it tho because I'm not trying to spread misinformation so its good theres someone to correct man but I'm just speaking from personal experience of when I first ever witnessed ed but I guess your fully locked in and know the history 🙌🏾💯.
Or fucking drill. I can't stand it. They all sound the same and they beep out half of the songs. What's the point of playing drill on the radio during the day?
@@bswertyui true . I laugh when they say it's not about gang life we just rap about what we see lol and then he self snitch he shanked few opps. Pathetic
When he said, "you know exactly what i mean by 'we'" he won me over. He's absolutely right, Ed just gets to reach down from the heavens and pluck whatever artist he needs (obviously hes paying them) but it could NEVER go the other way around.
Ed's actually plugged plenty of UK rapper/grime artists music over the years on his social media and interviewers, and done collaborations/projects with some like Ghetts, Devlin, Big Narstie, Chip, Wretch 32, Labrinth, Krept & Konan and Dot Rotten etc, all after his No.5 Collaborations Project with uk rap/grime artists was released in 2011, plus a several projects with SBTV. Wiley's probably unaware since he had beef with half of the grime artists over the years lol dot rotten even remixed a song of Ed's in 2019. Ed's 4 solo studio albums haven't had any featured artists on them, so it's not like he is leaving off grime. only his 2 collaborations projects have features, and he included UK rappers/grime artists then.
@@veronicam2935 Yeah, all on Eds terms. Though Wiley wouldn't like to admit it, the great grime/UK rap renaissance ushered in by Stormzy in 2015 is what has brought Ed back lol.
@@493HZ Yeah Ed and Stormzy have been friends for 7 years, Ed nearly signed him on his own personal record label, like he did for 3 UK artists, before Stormzy ended up signing with Atlantic Records. Ed has kept in contact with numerous UK artists from 2010-12 era and plugs their music, had several collabs, and/or supported their campaigns etc. Devlin even went to Ed's wedding.
Wiley's song featuring Ed also has music video and was released mid 2011, Wiley even tweeted links to music video, itunes and apple music in 2011/12 and it's still on Spotify. plus in 2017 Wiley said during a NME video interview that Ed was a godlike genius and like a brother etc. so he can hardly be holding some grudge when both of their collaborations were released in 2011. Wiley rants and raves and then backtracks all of the time. Wiley has now fooled some people into thinking their song was never released when the song was released round the same time as Ed's debut single with new major label. of course Ed was newly signed and his label want him to record his debut studio album to be released late 2011 after investing lots of money at the time, so couldn't do as many side projects while getting established, and his 4 main studio albums have all solo, no feature artists, except for some singles that get a remix after the album is released, because Ed is more of an acoustic pop/folk singer-songwriter genre, plus a one man band on stage with his loop station.
Because he’s the bigger artist. Everyone wants to work with him. He can’t work with them all or he’d be releasing 10 songs a day. He has to pick and choose. If you’re the smaller artist, you can’t complain when the big fry don’t pick you. That’s the nature of the game and if you don’t like it then tough luck, suck it up, work harder and become a household name. Ed evolved, Wiley has just faded into insignificance and now comes out with desperate rants like this. I’m not surprised Ed didn’t want to work with him.
I’m with Wiley tbh. Wiley has done a lot for the scene. Enough said. For those that think otherwise, you don’t have a mind of your own or have done your homework, all you do is see the charts that’s it. So you’re not qualified to be involved these discussions.
Everyone knows wiley has done a lot for the scene, but Wiley moves like a crackhead always flipping out at someone over nothing. Ed has never claimed to be a grime artist. I pick Wileys music over Ed any time but Wiley is always burning bridges and wondering why he isn't bigger.
yh but thats how music is... "it's no friends in the game, you ain't learn that yet?" ed doesn't owe wiley or anybody anything... if they choose to collab with him that's their problem.. if he chooses not to work w them back then that's his choice he is signed to a label. maybe if he was independent then you can say he has sumn against u but if the label says no then its no. its nothing personal lool. and they say women are emotional pssshhh
@@woody8191 what do you mean moves! The man has been a full blown smoker since the pay as you go Roman rd days. Them days when he used to get chased out of the Roman because he was an absolute clown! Mum brassing herself out from dunmore point for heroine. No one I grew up with in the Roman respects him.
Wiley sounds like a plonker. Ed is signed to big labels. He can't just release music with anybody when he likes. He said he'd make a track with you but you can't release it to clash with his release on a major label. I can't understand how you can say that from your own mouth and act like Ed has done anything wrong at all. You just seem bitter and desperate for attention.
I understand wileys upset but i think this is a perfect example of how success and the nature of the industry can destroy relationships . I think he does have Culture vulture qualities but I don’t think it’s intentional. I listen to Afro etc and I’d never heard of fireboy DML so Ed Sheeran has exposed me to new content/artist within a genre he’s not necessarily associated with and I am familiar with. Been signed to label and having million pound contracts takes away freedom to just work with whoever and obviously it’s not good business sense to release content from the same artist via two different sources at the same time.
Wiley was embellishing his story for clout, took some stuff out of context and backtracked quite a bit at times on twitter during that time. Ed collaborated on 2 songs with Wiley in 2011, Ed and Ghetts had featured on each other songs, Ed was featured on Ghetts latest album. Devlin and Ed have featured on each other songs, and their cover of Watchtower was played during the usa superbowl ads promo in 2018 because it was the song played for an upcoming netflix series, wrote songs together in 2016 (even if weren't released), and Devlin went to Ed's wedding in 2019. Wretch32 and Ed ft on an acoustic version of one of Stormzy's songs in 2017. Dot Rotten ft on a Ed remix of YNMIDYN and remixed Antisocial in 2019 from No.6 Collaborations Project 2019 . Ed plugged JME's grime4corbyn campaign in 2017, and has posted about Boy Better Know on his IG, and did an world exclusive interview with JME/Skepta's sister Julia in 2017. So he is still hanging out and plugging their work and campaigns etc. and they all were featured on Ed's No.5 Collaborations Project 2011. Ed's done several side projects with SBTV since 2010, and featured on an afrobeats song Peru at Jamal Edwards request.. Stormzy and Ed have featured on each others songs. Labrinth co-wrote and produced a song for Ed's Divide album 2017. Tion Wayne and Central Cee featured on remix of Ed's Bad Habits and the music video was on Tion's youtube channel to gain the views and subscribers for him, plus Ed plugged Tion merchandise and new album on his IG. Ed got Big Narstie songwriting credits on US Rapper The Game's album. Ed and Example are still mates since 2010 when did that Nando Skank rap, and Ed takes his family on holidays. Jovel music asked Ed to be godfather to his daughter. there was uk rap duo who were Ed's support act in US, supported one of their members mental health benefit concerts a few year ago. a lot of those UK rap/grime musicians he knew from 2010-12 he still in contact with lot of them, hanging out plugging their work, name dropping them in global interviews, plus plenty of newer UK artists since then.
I do love Wiley, but music moves into different areas. We are all gaining input from loads of people & influence transcends genres. As an example hip hop is sampling soul, and plenty of other industries sample left right and Center. Wiley just keeping it real and unfortunately the industry doesn’t care about honour. Big up to all, we all just meandering through this life ❤️
Wiley was wilding. It's a reach to say he's retiring so now he needs grime. You could say he's retiring, so now he's doing what he wants to do. I think that makes more sense.
this wiley guy is absolutely clueless, a lot of the artists power is held with the label. they choose who you work with and who you don't its a bit unfair to just blame everything on ed. he just sounds so salty😂
Stormzy wasn't really dragged into a beef. Wiley just has a dispute with Ed Sheeran. Stormzy is a Grime artist. It just so happens that Grime there are war dubs and it is an honour to clash Wiley. He is the final boss. Stormzy just so happened to stick up for Ed Sheeran. But Wiley is always right some don't see the real depth of what Wiley talks about especially when it's personal...but referencing the police and giving the police free promo. Smh
“ I WATCHED HIM RIP OFF MARVIN GAYE!!! “ . Hahahah gold. Thing is I will always love Wiley. We know sometimes what he says the message is so lost while he’s talking but alot of people know Wiley talks facts. I will say Ed sheeran from early has been part of our scene I always will respect him I don’t agree he’s a culture vulture but I do love Wiley regardless 💯
Just like how Aitch used Russmillions Keisha becky remix to Blow up - And didn't pay no respect or homage - THATS THE SAME ISSUE RUSSMILLIONS WAS ADRESSING TOWARDS AITCH. What Wiley is Saying HERE!! Bro LISTEN FACTS
I'm not sure thats the same thing, Aitch is from the working class and its definitely not a race thing. The fact that Taze and Aitch are both using verses from a Russ song is an issue but a completely different one entirely
@@493HZ BE SURE OF THIS THEN. FOOL. When have Neg'ros EVER Had to use OTHER nations Flows AND STYLE To come up and blow and gather EXPOSURE? Tell Us PLEASE! - Look at keisha Becky remix Thumbnail - and look at how AITCH was PLACED by the label to be the HEADLINED when he wasn't even KNOWN to REAL ROADMAN - RUSS Even said AITCH WAS PLACED ON HIS REMIX BY A LABEL NOT BY RUSS's OWN DECISION. IN THE the THUMBNAIL Look How the photo is captured with Russ HIDDEN ON THE LEFT Tion is on the RIGHT and Baby POP TART aitch is in CENTRE like its His Song! - Its intentionally Portrayed like that to get Pop Commercial artists clout and EXPOSURE off of NEG'ROS Culture N Vibe and flow OUR's - speaking from a media Background this was perfectly Executed to work on IDIOTS AND POP folks who are subliminally worked on to capture and divert Audience. FACTS! BE SURE OF THAT.
@@493HZ aitch ain’t no REAL working class. The sprog only got to where he is because he’s white. It’s that simple. He got noticed because he did a set on Kevin allstars 1xtra radio with zeph. Unfortunately it is what it is. Aitch is still at sats level compared with Wiley. Aitch is a teeny bopper. 😎
You know what the thing is I know where Wiley is coming from but at the same time there’s no need for it stormzy gave a lot of homage to Wiley and still does they both made money off the beef let it go guys life’s too short I get where Wiley is coming from about Ed too Never really liked Ed not as a person but his music don’t do it for me but as a person yeah Ed is cool I grew up listening to Wiley and Kano they all are good in what they do they just need to chill and make music spread the love peace
I agree he shouldn’t of got best urban artist of the decade but all he done was make music of a different genre why does it matter it ain’t effecting no one
Wiley: "he came from our scene" Ed: Take me back to London. Wiley: "How dare you!" Also when Wiley said Grime belongs to him at 4:10 was pretty grim. Also he seems to forget that his song with Ed called "If I could" exists and is on UA-cam where everyone can see it 😂
Ed statement when he says about the "you need me I don't need you song" simply just being teenage angst, that's a complete lie, listen to the lyrics it's defo aimed at Wiley 😅
Wiley got good points but really seems to struggle to articulate on the radio he was just sounding like he was getting mad. And why’d he beef stormzy when stormzy done so much for him in the past like he said
Never been big on Wiley but he talking his truths. He’s spot on and there’s just decency on reciprocating a favour. Wiley got principles, it’s not about pettiness. I feel the same towards Ed Sheeran, feel off him a long time ago. I was huge on him on the come up from those early days fucking with Devlin, he is a big talent but just got too industry focused
i'm gonna explain what he is trying to say if you dont agree it is what it is This is all about entitlement, Eds portrays a type of culture, middle classed english man, Wiley / grime portrays Lower class culture (black white asian and chinese). before the grime scene gave him a foot in the door into the industry (because he couldn't get a break anywhere else, he went for tv show ect and couldn't get past the rounds, preformed at iconic places didn't get any labels) the Lower class (grime) gave the middle class (Ed) and opportunity on there platform he took that opportunity and let them (wiley/Grime) build his profile, the charming middle class guitar playing well spoken english man in lower classed (grime)music When he Then got signed due to relating to urban low class topics, as a middle classed man, he decided to close all ties with the people (wiley) who help him get there in the first place, and throughout his career rejected helping that industry (grime) grow or become noticed around the world by use of his platform which was humongous. As he no longer NEEDED the Grime nor the grime artist to help him in his "Inde-Pop" genre, and also it could be said it might have been done so he didn't look or portray any type of "negative" images. Now he has become A multimillion record sale superstar artist it can be perceived that now the lower classed music has now elevated to such stage where the artist are creating a difference and it is mainstream his label has now deem it safe for him to touch grime music without consequences of tarnishing his character. This is what wiley is trying to say
Wiley is 100 percent right. I like Ed music but for example Ed knew the song “Peru” was a hit so he decided to jump on it cause he knew he could eat from that.. Justin Bieber is the same, he would have never done a song with Wizkid if wizkid was not so big, he knew that wizkid song was big so he decided to jump on it… I don’t like the presenter she sound very condescending and brainwashed, sounds like she is trying to please her bosses I smell a lot of brown stuff on her nose.
I used to like Ed Sheeran but can’t forgive him ripping of Marvin Gaye & TLC for shape of you & that other massive tune without paying proper homage & respect to those legendary black artists. This ish used to happen way too much in the early days & shouldn’t be tolerated.
@@amnesia6613 well, he did get sued & have to pay money to the estates of those musical artists. Your language is a mongrel language btw, read a English history book 😘
Wiley has points to make. But considering he can spit bars so well. He can't speak well without sounding bitter . Man's just not as popular as he wishes
That beef is in the past now no ones cares about it anymore you can move on from all that mike’s too big for him and you can’t slave him and tell him what to do
I’m just confused as to why this has been put into a vid now when all this was a few years ago. Micro mikes not been on social media since 2020? Just feels like you’re trying to jump on Wiley here , or get some more followers or something ? I don’t care about all these other artists tbh. Wiley’s doing his thing now. He’s the most realist man I’ve ever come across. He loves music. His passionate about grime he puts his whole heart into it. He’s been in this industry since he was a kid. He knows what’s what. Putting vids like this on and trying to make some big thing out of it now after years looks really desperate. Leave the man be 🙏🏾💖
Man, if anybody is actually feeling for Wiley here just remember he's saying that Ed doesn't belong in grime, but he's also claiming it belongs to him. He's saying he's not mad, then the second later he's saying he's mad. Ed has helped build more careers than Wiley ever did. And Wiley certainly didn't outlast Ed Sheeran, Ed Sheeran has just outearned Wiley.
"im mat at Ed Sheeran cuz HE SAID ”You need me man I don't need you”".......😂😂😂😂😂😂 Wiley's the Godfather give him his track ed man 🤣 ...you need me man I don't need you hahahaha Wiley's too funny
Wiley said: “This doesn’t effect me, i’m a bad man. what’s wrong with you?” i’m crying rn😂
hes so cringey
When a brother speaks the truth, he's crazy yet the person involved stays quite.....life isn't fair
It's mad
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Wiley said brainwashed, a lot of people are still 💯
No one ever can handle the truth.
wiley is the one making himself look like the aggressive idiot, ed sheeran stayed quite because he knows he doesn't need to speak, that wiley guy is nonstop talk its so jarring
@@raphaelnasser7084 he on the beek and getting old what do you expect.
Wiley is soo funny and crazy sometimes, but some of you can’t see that he always says facts
he's like the Boosie Badazz of the UK
For real man Wiley is a creator of a fully Established sound, that’s a mad level of responsibility and it’s his life’s work. people have made it out of the hood simply by his creation of music a sound. Grime will always be the original sound of the uk roads.
Nah I ain’t gonna lie I thought he was jus some salty geezer but he actually had a point wid this
This ain’t funny, he spoke to that radio host like she was muck, he needs to learn some respect and how to coherently string a sentence together before acting like someone important. He should take a few English lessons at least.
@@UserName-br5zu I mean when you’re talkin bout black music he is extremely important but I get your point
7:06-7:10 had me dying 😂😂😂 “I’m a badman!!”
I was listening to Wiley on the radio live when he was ranting. It's banter but people will make you look mad when you're spitting facts
Make you seem mad to cover the truth of what's being said about them
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@@lewisr7020 yh
@@yorambo2857 yo how are you man?
Not gona lie after hearing this angle I have to side with Wiley on this one.
How can anyone have beef with ed sheeran 😂
Wiley would find beef.. in a chicken factory 😂😂😂
Only Wiley 😂
Wiley would literally beef a mirror for looking at him the wrong way 😂
@@rickyronny4019 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I can fully imagine it brushing his teeth then he catches that side eye staring 😅😂
@@terrellattawia9901 exactly.
Everyone here kissing Ed's ring but in all honesty Wiley has a solid point....
If someone came in and out of your sister as and when you'd have something to say but when it's Ed and grime it's okay but grime can't f with Ed
Music game's f'ed
@Big G Wiley is the Kanye west of uk before Kanye west was Kanye west
@Big G Ed and Wiley released 2 songs together in 2011, one was on Ed's No.5 collaborations project and one was Ed featuring on Wiley's song. they are both still available on spotify etc. Ed's new record label just didn't want Wiley to release their song on the same week as Ed's new single. and in 2017 Wiley said to NME that Ed was a godlike genius etc. Wiley just rants and raves, and takes it all back again
@@barebasics his new artist is on my channel NOW
I get why he would be upset. But ed said it himself. All he did was ask to move the day..he never said no😂im not seeing anyone talk about eds response to the situation.
i will say i dont know much on wiley, but id rather believe Ed over someone who apparently starts plenty of beef from thin air.
A lot of respect for both artists but Wiley ain't lieing I first ever heard ed and saw him on tv from the song "you need me I dont need you" which I'm sure blew him up wasn't that considered grime? I'm sure he made other songs that wasn't grime but he didn't blow from those.
The album that made him was the Collaborations EP which featured a bunch of grime artists and garnered attention from all of those different fanbases.
Bro look at Ed's come up on sbtv doing songs with griminal, devlin and Wiley
@@whipasnaper Same time as the collaborations ep. All of that was a part of the promo run for it. He came up through grime, I'm a huge fan of Ed Sheeran and have been since day one, as a musician myself I studied his journey hard.
You Need Me, I Don't Need You is more of a rap song, and Ed started recording that in 2008, his No.5 Collaborations Project wasn't recorded until later in 2010 and released early 2011 and didn't include that song, or release any singles from it. Ed had performed YNMIDNY on SBTV in 2010 and had an independent YNMIDNY EP then, later recorded an updated version for his debut album Plus "+" in 2011.The A Team was written in 2009, released early 2010 as seen by the official music video, and that's the song that made Ed famous and is known for, he was even nominated for a Grammy award for Song Of The Year in 2012, and he performed The A Team with Elton John.
@@veronicam2935 😂 you riding hard for ed on this channel I respek it tho because I'm not trying to spread misinformation so its good theres someone to correct man but I'm just speaking from personal experience of when I first ever witnessed ed but I guess your fully locked in and know the history 🙌🏾💯.
wiley 100 percent correct about being brainwashed the radio literally forces us into liking particular songs, especially ed sheeran
Or fucking drill. I can't stand it. They all sound the same and they beep out half of the songs. What's the point of playing drill on the radio during the day?
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@@robakles1 promoting gang shit bro then they wonder why London is the way it is
@@bswertyui true . I laugh when they say it's not about gang life we just rap about what we see lol and then he self snitch he shanked few opps. Pathetic
@@robakles1 Dumbass drill music came to New York, happy when music was hot in the 90s-00s..
When he said, "you know exactly what i mean by 'we'" he won me over. He's absolutely right, Ed just gets to reach down from the heavens and pluck whatever artist he needs (obviously hes paying them) but it could NEVER go the other way around.
Ed's actually plugged plenty of UK rapper/grime artists music over the years on his social media and interviewers, and done collaborations/projects with some like Ghetts, Devlin, Big Narstie, Chip, Wretch 32, Labrinth, Krept & Konan and Dot Rotten etc, all after his No.5 Collaborations Project with uk rap/grime artists was released in 2011, plus a several projects with SBTV. Wiley's probably unaware since he had beef with half of the grime artists over the years lol dot rotten even remixed a song of Ed's in 2019. Ed's 4 solo studio albums haven't had any featured artists on them, so it's not like he is leaving off grime. only his 2 collaborations projects have features, and he included UK rappers/grime artists then.
@@veronicam2935 Yeah, all on Eds terms. Though Wiley wouldn't like to admit it, the great grime/UK rap renaissance ushered in by Stormzy in 2015 is what has brought Ed back lol.
@@493HZ Yeah Ed and Stormzy have been friends for 7 years, Ed nearly signed him on his own personal record label, like he did for 3 UK artists, before Stormzy ended up signing with Atlantic Records. Ed has kept in contact with numerous UK artists from 2010-12 era and plugs their music, had several collabs, and/or supported their campaigns etc. Devlin even went to Ed's wedding.
Wiley's song featuring Ed also has music video and was released mid 2011, Wiley even tweeted links to music video, itunes and apple music in 2011/12 and it's still on Spotify. plus in 2017 Wiley said during a NME video interview that Ed was a godlike genius and like a brother etc. so he can hardly be holding some grudge when both of their collaborations were released in 2011. Wiley rants and raves and then backtracks all of the time. Wiley has now fooled some people into thinking their song was never released when the song was released round the same time as Ed's debut single with new major label. of course Ed was newly signed and his label want him to record his debut studio album to be released late 2011 after investing lots of money at the time, so couldn't do as many side projects while getting established, and his 4 main studio albums have all solo, no feature artists, except for some singles that get a remix after the album is released, because Ed is more of an acoustic pop/folk singer-songwriter genre, plus a one man band on stage with his loop station.
Because he’s the bigger artist. Everyone wants to work with him. He can’t work with them all or he’d be releasing 10 songs a day. He has to pick and choose. If you’re the smaller artist, you can’t complain when the big fry don’t pick you. That’s the nature of the game and if you don’t like it then tough luck, suck it up, work harder and become a household name. Ed evolved, Wiley has just faded into insignificance and now comes out with desperate rants like this. I’m not surprised Ed didn’t want to work with him.
The moral of the story is not to expect everyone to be a standup guy like you are and don't let it phase you if they aren't. 💯
I’m with Wiley tbh. Wiley has done a lot for the scene. Enough said. For those that think otherwise, you don’t have a mind of your own or have done your homework, all you do is see the charts that’s it. So you’re not qualified to be involved these discussions.
Everyone knows wiley has done a lot for the scene, but Wiley moves like a crackhead always flipping out at someone over nothing.
Ed has never claimed to be a grime artist.
I pick Wileys music over Ed any time but Wiley is always burning bridges and wondering why he isn't bigger.
Wiley been about since day 1.
yh but thats how music is... "it's no friends in the game, you ain't learn that yet?" ed doesn't owe wiley or anybody anything... if they choose to collab with him that's their problem.. if he chooses not to work w them back then that's his choice he is signed to a label. maybe if he was independent then you can say he has sumn against u but if the label says no then its no. its nothing personal lool. and they say women are emotional pssshhh
@@woody8191 what do you mean moves! The man has been a full blown smoker since the pay as you go Roman rd days. Them days when he used to get chased out of the Roman because he was an absolute clown! Mum brassing herself out from dunmore point for heroine. No one I grew up with in the Roman respects him.
Wiley sounds like a plonker. Ed is signed to big labels. He can't just release music with anybody when he likes.
He said he'd make a track with you but you can't release it to clash with his release on a major label.
I can't understand how you can say that from your own mouth and act like Ed has done anything wrong at all.
You just seem bitter and desperate for attention.
spot on
I understand wileys upset but i think this is a perfect example of how success and the nature of the industry can destroy relationships .
I think he does have Culture vulture qualities but I don’t think it’s intentional. I listen to Afro etc and I’d never heard of fireboy DML so Ed Sheeran has exposed me to new content/artist within a genre he’s not necessarily associated with and I am familiar with.
Been signed to label and having million pound contracts takes away freedom to just work with whoever and obviously it’s not good business sense to release content from the same artist via two different sources at the same time.
Wiley was embellishing his story for clout, took some stuff out of context and backtracked quite a bit at times on twitter during that time. Ed collaborated on 2 songs with Wiley in 2011, Ed and Ghetts had featured on each other songs, Ed was featured on Ghetts latest album. Devlin and Ed have featured on each other songs, and their cover of Watchtower was played during the usa superbowl ads promo in 2018 because it was the song played for an upcoming netflix series, wrote songs together in 2016 (even if weren't released), and Devlin went to Ed's wedding in 2019. Wretch32 and Ed ft on an acoustic version of one of Stormzy's songs in 2017. Dot Rotten ft on a Ed remix of YNMIDYN and remixed Antisocial in 2019 from No.6 Collaborations Project 2019 . Ed plugged JME's grime4corbyn campaign in 2017, and has posted about Boy Better Know on his IG, and did an world exclusive interview with JME/Skepta's sister Julia in 2017. So he is still hanging out and plugging their work and campaigns etc. and they all were featured on Ed's No.5 Collaborations Project 2011. Ed's done several side projects with SBTV since 2010, and featured on an afrobeats song Peru at Jamal Edwards request.. Stormzy and Ed have featured on each others songs. Labrinth co-wrote and produced a song for Ed's Divide album 2017. Tion Wayne and Central Cee featured on remix of Ed's Bad Habits and the music video was on Tion's youtube channel to gain the views and subscribers for him, plus Ed plugged Tion merchandise and new album on his IG. Ed got Big Narstie songwriting credits on US Rapper The Game's album. Ed and Example are still mates since 2010 when did that Nando Skank rap, and Ed takes his family on holidays. Jovel music asked Ed to be godfather to his daughter. there was uk rap duo who were Ed's support act in US, supported one of their members mental health benefit concerts a few year ago. a lot of those UK rap/grime musicians he knew from 2010-12 he still in contact with lot of them, hanging out plugging their work, name dropping them in global interviews, plus plenty of newer UK artists since then.
Bro there is no way you listen to afro beats not heard of fire boy peru was the biggest Afro beat song at the time for months before Ed jumped on
Ed just hella versatile. Sorry Wiley😂
Wiley kills me 😭😭 he went off 😩😄. Man like Wiley uno.
hes nothing but a thug
@@raphaelnasser7084 haha stop it
Everything he’s saying is right, don’t try calling him mad because he’s being real I know what your saying Wiley love bro
Got me dead when wiley said ed said to him u need me i don’t need u😂😂😭😭😭
Right on point from wiley!! The day Ed sheeran comes back, if drill is popular Ed will be ALL OVER A REMIX!! FACT
Wiley must be protected at all cost
He’s a prick tho and he has shig music
@@cameronfraser545 😂😂
@@cameronfraser545 let me guess yoy like Ed sheeran though ? Let me guess you think he does grime better than wiley, absolute tosser
@@cameronfraser545 his new artist is on my channel NOW
@@D-A-A- ofc he doesn’t do grime better lol, he’s not even a grime artist lol wtf is wrong with you.
"Im not mad!! People think im mad!!"
But il phone 1xtra and start shouting down the phone 🤣🤣🤣
Wiley is talking truth
I remember that
Real talks
I do love Wiley, but music moves into different areas. We are all gaining input from loads of people & influence transcends genres. As an example hip hop is sampling soul, and plenty of other industries sample left right and Center. Wiley just keeping it real and unfortunately the industry doesn’t care about honour. Big up to all, we all just meandering through this life ❤️
Why has this been uploaded now? This is so old
Nice to see the comments understanding what wiley is saying. He been trying to tell us for years
Wiley was wilding. It's a reach to say he's retiring so now he needs grime.
You could say he's retiring, so now he's doing what he wants to do. I think that makes more sense.
wiley just has no clue what he's talking about hes too caught up in his feelings, he comes across as really aggressive
Right or Wrong I cant hate Wiley. He brings entertainment 😂😂😂😂😂
this wiley guy is absolutely clueless, a lot of the artists power is held with the label. they choose who you work with and who you don't its a bit unfair to just blame everything on ed. he just sounds so salty😂
Stormzy wasn't really dragged into a beef. Wiley just has a dispute with Ed Sheeran. Stormzy is a Grime artist. It just so happens that Grime there are war dubs and it is an honour to clash Wiley. He is the final boss. Stormzy just so happened to stick up for Ed Sheeran. But Wiley is always right some don't see the real depth of what Wiley talks about especially when it's personal...but referencing the police and giving the police free promo. Smh
Stormzy is a fake grime artist more hip-pop
@@gregsaunders4 look at he’s old shit before you comment fam
@@KCS-01 thats the point, his old shit. Since he got a bit of fame he’s abandoned grime
@@kiwi36O bro the guy is a multi millionaire I would do the same thing and you probs would as well let’s be realistic
@@kiwi36O his actual old shit wasn’t grime tbh
“ I WATCHED HIM RIP OFF MARVIN GAYE!!! “ . Hahahah gold. Thing is I will always love Wiley. We know sometimes what he says the message is so lost while he’s talking but alot of people know Wiley talks facts. I will say Ed sheeran from early has been part of our scene I always will respect him I don’t agree he’s a culture vulture but I do love Wiley regardless 💯
Just like how Aitch used Russmillions Keisha becky remix to Blow up - And didn't pay no respect or homage - THATS THE SAME ISSUE RUSSMILLIONS WAS ADRESSING TOWARDS AITCH. What Wiley is Saying HERE!! Bro LISTEN FACTS
I'm not sure thats the same thing, Aitch is from the working class and its definitely not a race thing. The fact that Taze and Aitch are both using verses from a Russ song is an issue but a completely different one entirely
@@493HZ BE SURE OF THIS THEN. FOOL. When have Neg'ros EVER Had to use OTHER nations Flows AND STYLE To come up and blow and gather EXPOSURE? Tell Us PLEASE! - Look at keisha Becky remix Thumbnail - and look at how AITCH was PLACED by the label to be the HEADLINED when he wasn't even KNOWN to REAL ROADMAN - RUSS Even said AITCH WAS PLACED ON HIS REMIX BY A LABEL NOT BY RUSS's OWN DECISION. IN THE the THUMBNAIL Look How the photo is captured with Russ HIDDEN ON THE LEFT Tion is on the RIGHT and Baby POP TART aitch is in CENTRE like its His Song! - Its intentionally Portrayed like that to get Pop Commercial artists clout and EXPOSURE off of NEG'ROS Culture N Vibe and flow OUR's - speaking from a media Background this was perfectly Executed to work on IDIOTS AND POP folks who are subliminally worked on to capture and divert Audience. FACTS! BE SURE OF THAT.
@@493HZ aitch ain’t no REAL working class. The sprog only got to where he is because he’s white. It’s that simple. He got noticed because he did a set on Kevin allstars 1xtra radio with zeph. Unfortunately it is what it is. Aitch is still at sats level compared with Wiley. Aitch is a teeny bopper. 😎
@@sharina_s8468 Aitch didn't get to where he was because he is white...
@@493HZ aitch is not part of the working class he has no talent he never deserved anything
Man said his killing the game because his got a guitar and a foot peddle 😂 I'm dead ☠
Wiley’s got a point icl
His new artist its on my channel
You know what the thing is I know where Wiley is coming from but at the same time there’s no need for it stormzy gave a lot of homage to Wiley and still does they both made money off the beef let it go guys life’s too short I get where Wiley is coming from about Ed too Never really liked Ed not as a person but his music don’t do it for me but as a person yeah Ed is cool I grew up listening to Wiley and Kano they all are good in what they do they just need to chill and make music spread the love peace
Everyone knows Ed got exposure by putting Scorcher on his remix of ‘The City’ around 2008/2009, Mistajam and 1xtra were going mad about it.
Wiley states a fact and they just say ‘but hes a mega star’ so???
I agree he shouldn’t of got best urban artist of the decade but all he done was make music of a different genre why does it matter it ain’t effecting no one
A mega star most people in the country don’t know who he is so how is he a mega star
'this don't affect me, i'm a badman what's wrong with you' 😂
Wiley loves beef my man wakes up in the morning and chooses smoke
Wiley makes some good points.. Sounds like Ed did a Justin Timberlake and got dis invited to the Cook Out.
Labels and contracts lawyers etc. it's hard to fully understand what happens
Wiley flow ain't paying homage. Come on now.
Wiley just wasting his time I get you Wiley you got a point
Wiley's new artist its on my channel NOW 🎧
lol u learn new beef everyday i love this channel
all I can say is: FACTS!
yo didnt they do that a while ago? a few diss tracks back n forth?
This story is sooooooo old??? Why are you re hashing this now?? Just curious?
'I don't hate ed sheeran' sounds like you hate him based on the fact you've been ranting aggressively about him for the last 2 minutes
Wiley: "he came from our scene"
Ed: Take me back to London.
Wiley: "How dare you!"
Also when Wiley said Grime belongs to him at 4:10 was pretty grim.
Also he seems to forget that his song with Ed called "If I could" exists and is on UA-cam where everyone can see it 😂
Originators and appreciators.
Real talk , people hate outspoken people.
This is ancient news
Just one man can't decide who can do grime and who can't🤷♂️
Yes make the continuation
Wiley is the UKs kanye west
Part from Kanye west actually does good music
@@Gunner83x double entendre
Woow 🤣🤣
Kanye, also ain’t mad.
Imagine Ed punching Wiley up hahaha
This is difficult one as Ed really does seem genuine and has Always backed black music. The music business is business, business HAS to make sense!
He called her bruv 🤣
Where you been? People think it's actually cool calling a female bro, bruv, blud, fam 🙃😁🙃
@@skywalker9603 i mean, i did call my crush bruv, so damn
Just kinda slipped out. Lmao
@@IMuncheez she called him bro
@@ryanashley2822 i guess i wasnt paying attention to her 🤣🤣
Ed statement when he says about the "you need me I don't need you song" simply just being teenage angst, that's a complete lie, listen to the lyrics it's defo aimed at Wiley 😅
Wiley goes on like a crackhead waiting on his Giro
His new artist its on my channel NOW
Ed sheran is a don love his reply he is so genuine
When you think you own something that isn't yours 😂
This guy is Fu*king crazy 🤣🤣
He will look back on this one day and will feel silly whily
Wiley got good points but really seems to struggle to articulate on the radio he was just sounding like he was getting mad. And why’d he beef stormzy when stormzy done so much for him in the past like he said
Never been big on Wiley but he talking his truths. He’s spot on and there’s just decency on reciprocating a favour.
Wiley got principles, it’s not about pettiness.
I feel the same towards Ed Sheeran, feel off him a long time ago. I was huge on him on the come up from those early days fucking with Devlin, he is a big talent but just got too industry focused
ED is a Icon,and Whiley is a Looser
Grime ain't yours he didn't wanna help me me me me me hahaha
'im a badman' is that why your aggressively trying to bully ed sheeran, one of the most harmless guys in the game
I think Wiley forgets that he doesn’t own grime lol
My man Wiley we get you and we got you. Amazing how this video is made to show wiley as being nuts or something.
i'm gonna explain what he is trying to say if you dont agree it is what it is
This is all about entitlement,
Eds portrays a type of culture, middle classed english man,
Wiley / grime portrays Lower class culture (black white asian and chinese).
before the grime scene gave him a foot in the door into the industry (because he couldn't get a break anywhere else, he went for tv show ect and couldn't get past the rounds, preformed at iconic places didn't get any labels) the Lower class (grime) gave the middle class (Ed) and opportunity on there platform
he took that opportunity and let them (wiley/Grime) build his profile, the charming middle class guitar playing well spoken english man in lower classed (grime)music
When he Then got signed due to relating to urban low class topics, as a middle classed man, he decided to close all ties with the people (wiley) who help him get there in the first place, and throughout his career rejected helping that industry (grime) grow or become noticed around the world by use of his platform which was humongous. As he no longer NEEDED the Grime nor the grime artist to help him in his "Inde-Pop" genre, and also it could be said it might have been done so he didn't look or portray any type of "negative" images.
Now he has become A multimillion record sale superstar artist it can be perceived that now the lower classed music has now elevated to such stage where the artist are creating a difference and it is mainstream his label has now deem it safe for him to touch grime music without consequences of tarnishing his character.
This is what wiley is trying to say
Thank you for explaining it. I knew bits and pieces but couldn’t join the dots.
bump this comment
Absolutely love this. Everything you’ve said here is spot on. This should be pinned. 🙏🏾💖😘
Wiley needs to allow it he proper falling off now 🤣🤣
I remember listening to young guns in Uni. And all my housemates were hyping him as the best up coming rapper. When he flipped I wanted to laugh lol
Wiley is 100 percent right. I like Ed music but for example Ed knew the song “Peru” was a hit so he decided to jump on it cause he knew he could eat from that.. Justin Bieber is the same, he would have never done a song with Wizkid if wizkid was not so big, he knew that wizkid song was big so he decided to jump on it… I don’t like the presenter she sound very condescending and brainwashed, sounds like she is trying to please her bosses I smell a lot of brown stuff on her nose.
Wiley is fuming cos Ed didn’t want Wiley in his tune cos he’s tracks r dead now 😂😂
I rah think Wiley is jealous of everyone in the game hahaha 🤣🤣
I see what Wiley is saying, it’s just his delivery is a little brash…
Who does Wiley think he is? Grime is not YOURS. You do not own it. You don’t decide who collabs with other grime artists.
Wiley is jealous clearly 😂😂
Bitter and envious as it gets.
Wiley is the absolute truth 💓
I used to like Ed Sheeran but can’t forgive him ripping of Marvin Gaye & TLC for shape of you & that other massive tune without paying proper homage & respect to those legendary black artists. This ish used to happen way too much in the early days & shouldn’t be tolerated.
Imagine thinking we care what you lot think😂🤣about pay homage how about you pay homage for speaking our language then?????
@@amnesia6613 well, he did get sued & have to pay money to the estates of those musical artists. Your language is a mongrel language btw, read a English history book 😘
Music is varied one can make as much music as they want
Sore af because of that one thing🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
'ed sheeran is a culture vulture' even though this wiley makes music in ENGLISH 😂😂😂
Bruh ed really be living rent free in this clowns mind lol
Legend has it wileys mumsy is still bangged up abroad
Wiley seems bitter. Jealousy won’t get you nowhere
Wiley has points to make. But considering he can spit bars so well. He can't speak well without sounding bitter . Man's just not as popular as he wishes
Yeahhh but where's Mike on Chip though. Keep that energy consistent Big Mike.
That beef is in the past now no ones cares about it anymore you can move on from all that mike’s too big for him and you can’t slave him and tell him what to do
I’m just confused as to why this has been put into a vid now when all this was a few years ago. Micro mikes not been on social media since 2020? Just feels like you’re trying to jump on Wiley here , or get some more followers or something ? I don’t care about all these other artists tbh. Wiley’s doing his thing now. He’s the most realist man I’ve ever come across. He loves music. His passionate about grime he puts his whole heart into it. He’s been in this industry since he was a kid. He knows what’s what. Putting vids like this on and trying to make some big thing out of it now after years looks really desperate. Leave the man be 🙏🏾💖
Wiley speaking facts though now Ed he's on afro beats 🤔
Mad versatile is the Ginger warrior
@@skywalker9603 More like culture vulture
ed was doing afrobeats *before* it blew up/was mainstream around the world
@@trife7419 there's no such thing as "white music" and "black music", that's racist bullshit 🙄 people are free to do whatever they want
@@ugh4387 'theres no such thing as black music' yes there is, and you trying to deny it just make you racist.
Man, if anybody is actually feeling for Wiley here just remember he's saying that Ed doesn't belong in grime, but he's also claiming it belongs to him. He's saying he's not mad, then the second later he's saying he's mad. Ed has helped build more careers than Wiley ever did. And Wiley certainly didn't outlast Ed Sheeran, Ed Sheeran has just outearned Wiley.
Wiley respect you loyalty to the craft you help to create 💯👍🏻
WAT YOU CALL IT GARAGE WAT YOU CALL IT URBAN /////// big up wiley
Wiley needs a vacation, he seems stressed. Time the go sit down and pray!
"im mat at Ed Sheeran cuz HE SAID ”You need me man I don't need you”".......😂😂😂😂😂😂 Wiley's the Godfather give him his track ed man 🤣 ...you need me man I don't need you hahahaha Wiley's too funny
Wiley argues with his own shadow
Ed did come up off of the grim scene wiley devlin i think even Ghetts promoted him at 1 point but its true, Wiley is right.
Man I didn't even remember Ed even existed until this video.