Portugal is not a small country in fact its a medium size country both at European and worl level. The same size or bigger than Austria, Holland, Greece etc..
@@eigobike3929 That's not good for us. Having our skilled youth leaving the country by the thousands every year because they have no perspectives of any decent future here isn't fun.
Sr. Angelo You obviously have never been to Portugal and you definitely have never been to a communist country. Portuguese have more freedom than Americans. So what do you consider the United States to be?
Being a adict for 14 years injecting H, this Shift in Politis saved my life. Im now clean for 16 years. Methadone was my life saver. Unbelievable! Thanks João Goulão.
Metadona save my life in 2002 after 25 years using heroína, thanks to all that friends who make my life Change. Actualy i have a Daughter 17 years old and it s my light
É uma luta diária, para o resto da vida de quem experimentou, mas o mais importante é dar prioridade é focar no que realmente importa!! Força, todos guerreiros💚
My thought exactly!!! On the serious side, could also mean, here in Portugal, heroin addiction is, unlike our own prejudices, not exclusive of the poor an uneducated.
It can’t work in the U.S because of only two things: 1° - The U.S doesn’t have a Universal Health Care system. And there is no money to be gained in giving free methadone to those who want to leave their drug addiction slowly. In fact, the american pharmaceutical industry has an invested interested in keeping people addicted, not the other way around. 2° - A great part of the prison system in America is privatized, and they capitalize in mass incarceration. Having laws that treat drug addicts as criminals is something they have a monetary interest in keeping. That industry doesn’t want drug addiction to be seen as a mental or a health problem. Until those things change, nothing will in America.
It could be tried in a state or two, to see how it would go... Once people knew the good results, they would demand their politicians to change their mind. It would be so good for Americans and others to try this Portuguese Program.
Sónia Conceição As an American I can state that Americans cant demand anything from the Government. Not from the Federal or the State government. Plus Pharmaceutical companies (BigPHarm, as Americans like to call it) would never allow it.
LOL.... me too! Only after watching I noticed the date :))) still... I think Portugal did an impressive job in preventing drug abuse, OD's, drug related criminality and related jail sentences... I also think it's doing a great job in the Covid-19 Pandemic!! (as a Berliner born in Lisbon it makes me very proud :)
Vivo no Porto, mais concretamente no Viso. Isto aqui parece o The Walking Dead dos ressacas... Isto é tudo muito bonito, mas hoje em dia no Porto em todo o lado há drogados a pedir dinheiro para a droga. São mais que os estrangeiros. Engraçado é que para toda a gente está tudo bem. O que interessa é que somos um exemplo para os americanos...
@@pedroabreu1166 eles nunca disseram que acabaram com a droga em Portugal, mas consideram vitoria porque muitos aqui conseguiram se safar com ajudas e internamentos. nos Usa sejas consumidor ou traficante é logo cadeia, não ha ajudas, ou te limpas sozinho ou ficas agarrado para sempre.
@@pedroabreu1166 aqui em baixo no algarve mais propriamente Tavira, a camara municipal alugou uns contentores para a malta que consome e vive na rua. uma semana depois eles parecem outras pessoas, banho tomado, refeição não falta, a cruz vermelha oferece. Nos Us eles morriam num canto qualquer sem ninguém saber
This story misses one other important aspect, the breakdown of some of the guetos in LIsbon which were the the major hotspots for drugs, 20 years ago you could drive by its streets and see young girls of 12/13 and above sitting on the cobbled streets shooting H, they were like human rags that much reminded zombies on The Walking Dead, Lisbon city hall demolished parts of two major guettos, recuperated some others and builded dozens if not hundreds of new buildings with social rents (low income workers) but this time instead of concentrating it in the same area they displaced it all over the metropolitan area along with some primary and critical services and stores (that in the past they didnt have) including police stations to keep drug trafficking in check. In short by starting also the close proximity police for schools and those other two aspects above depicted they managed to reduce offer and demand over the years with less OD per capita.
This was another key point on the whole battle. If you life a miserable life, your one steep closer to through it away. Be them drugs, alcohol or whatever floats your boat! On the US, like someone mentioned before, not sure if we'll ever see something like this happen. Again, does it make someone rich? If not, it's a bad idea. Cheers to all
ua-cam.com/video/r_Tu3VxDaqw/v-deo.html Video about Casal Ventoso neighborhood. This illustrates in video what you wrote. turn on Subs and translate in UA-cam options.
Still remember back in early 2000's to pass by Casal Ventoso onboard a train to Alcântara-Terra, and watch several people injecting themselves in the slope next to the railway line. In broad daylight. It was horrific.
It's not just about overdoses deaths. Along with the decriminalization came programs to support addicts and user, like free needles. That led to a decrease on drug related diseases ( which were a serious problem in Portugal ). Crime related to the usage of drugs also dropped, much due to the fact that with the metadone replacement addicts don't have to search for their fix everyday. That means they don't get the need to steal or kill just to get by the day.
This small country called Portugal, the same your Chanel compare with single “departments” of USA, is a country with more then just a “solution” for pandemic drugs. In Portugal the access to weapons it’s not easy and “free of charge” as it is in the BIG young country USA! In Portugal less people dies killed by weapons then USA and Congratulations to Portugal for his proactive actions and management agains the new coronavirus! Respect ✊ small country with a big heart and humble people.
I think in the US everything good or bad is profit, in my country we still try to defend family values, so if you treat an drug adicted person you "save" is family and friends, not some greedy company... So many thanks to SR. João Goulão for his commitment!!! My father still uses this program and his is doing much better then back in those horrible years... An advise to my US brothers, embrace whats better to help your families and country! love from the ever greatest old country...
Im portuguese and this works, a friend of mine became adicted to hard drugs, but the gorvenement did not treat him as a criminal but as patient that needs help, he was sent to reab and thankfully it worked and know is life is on tracks again. I dont remenber a time were this police was not in place but i remenber the sories that my parentes told me of large amounts of their friends were lost to a drug that they didnt realize what it did
The name of the sport in English should be properly changed to Feetball - it's played with the feet not one foot. That would solve the problem correctly. Pass it on - Feetball. America can keep its football kicked with only one foot.
I've seen lots of comments from Americans saying that this would be impossible to do in the US. I agree, not only because of the reasons that have already been stated from their point of view. By treating addicts, we got them off the streets. By that time, we also started to restore some old buildings and taking care of our property. Our main cities are now safer and cleaner than what they were 15-20 years ago, and that has contributed to the country's development in tourism. Porto and Lisboa have gained massive popularity since the turn of the century, as both cities got multiple "Best European Destination" awards over the last decade. Tourism is very important for our economy, whereas in some American states, it might not be. Don't lose hope, Americans. The video states that this extreme approach was not really liked by the government in the beginning, but as results started showing, they had no choice but to keep doing it. Results started showing long before the tourism boom.
Another point was the mentality, ceased to be cool, ceased to be a weapon of freedom and affirmation, became stupid, and friends help but if he continues he will be alone.
Portugal is not a small country in fact its a medium size country both at European and world level. The same size or bigger than Austria, Holland, Greece etc..
Compared to the USA any European country is tiny from Luxembourg to Germany. Portugal is the 19th largest country out of 52 in the European continent and that is how one evaluates the size of a country, otherwise a Dutch would have to speak about the giant Portugal for being twice the size of Holland!!!
@@mduvens Não Portugal não é um Pais pequeno nem é discutível é uma simples questão de matemática se há tantos paises menores como maiores então somos um Pais de dimensão média. Pequena só a cabeça de alguns Portugueses.
US political ideology is scary from this side, we are different but it's not the end of the world if the political issue get's better. Learning with each other in many ways will bring us to a better future
Joana Borges where do live? I was born and raised in New Jersey but left when I turned 25 I moved to Portugal and have Been living out here for 7 years now and love it.
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well this was a very simplistic, and a very American way to see how we solve this an a bit misleading. only the consumption was decriminalized, not the drugs it self, the consumption was decriminalized so we could help the drug addict. one gets the impression the drugs were decriminalized, that is not so, not even cannabis. this was a multi-prong approach on many levels, passing by de physical destruction and rehabilitation of areas were the drug traffic was greater (casal ventoso etc) meaning taking a bulldozer and crushing the neighborhoods were dealers were living and dealing while at the same time our "DEA" crack down on them, while at the same time those programs described in this piece like the methadone vans and many other programs in the same vane helped the drug addict . so not has simple has "lets decriminalize drugs and give vans with methadone rolling around and everything will be fine" vibe like this piece makes it look.
They've had methadone treatment in the US since the 1960s..it works for many people. It works for me, and I've been on it on and off for 25 yrs. We have to do meetings, go to counseling, and we can earn takeouts so we don't have to go everyday...the only difference is we have clinics instead of buses, and if you don't have insurance, it's $300. a month
Not to be a dick but doesn’t sound like methadone is really working for you. I understand it may help you get by but you keep going back. Have you tried kratom ? A lot of people don’t know about it but it does work believe it or not I wasn’t on H but worked for 400 mg habit a day of oxy
Portugal its free the metadone . Im portuguese and let me tell u that 15 years ago , it was an epidemic the drug use, drug relared crimes, overdoses. After the decriminalation (not legalization as many think) the use of drugs, the drug related crimes dropped drastactly, police when caugh someone with small amouts of drugs, would help u and not treat u as a bandid. They would of course take the drugs and try to have a chat with u where u could get help. Of course if u got caugh with lots of drugs as a dealer, u would be prosecuted and jailed. Portugal instead of seing the drug useres as criminals, started to see them as people with health problems and direct them to treatment. I telling u, 15 years ago u coulnt walk at night; u would br robbed; lots of robberys, burgelaries, homicide, etc. Now Portugal is a great exemple about how it tackled the drug problem. Wherever u might read on coments, take my opinion as the truth about Portugal and decriminalization. I in first hand was a heroin user, and with these laws, my life changed. Thank u
Carrieann I’m in the U.K. and have been on juice a long time. Pick up once a week and see my key worker once a fortnight for about 10 mins. Costs me £110 a year because I work and pay up front. Saved my life without a doubt.
As pessoas cujas matriculas dos automoveis, que pararam para receber tratamento, e que foram aqui nitidamente exibidas na reportagem, devem estar muito satisfeitas com a falta cuidado de perservação de identidade/ privacidade.
This is not made by portuguese or for portuguese. We already know everything about this. Maybe we should be less polite, but it is not the portuguese way.
Drug use is first a public health issue and only after a criminal issue. If you flip the priority around the solution will not work. If you cut the supply of drugs all you do is increase criminality. It's common sense really. It's not that anyone wants to pick up the tab and go out there and pay for this solution, it's that the alternative is so much more costly. Drug users should not be in prison, even if petty crime is involved, they need to be given a way out. Low demand for drug dealers reduces criminality. Get the drug lords out of politics in the US and you can implement these ideas, adapted to your own reality, which of course is different than Portugal, due to more gang activity and gun use, but still possible.
I wish this program could be implemented in the US. but I don't believe the States will see the financial benefits to the a program. One benefit would be more people would be able to work and pay taxes meaning they would get off the state paid insurance. The more people working the less crime. The crime rate dropping would increase property values increase meaning higher property tax. The most important benefit the families and individuals it would save. Maybe the see all that but let's not forget it's about money.
On the long run, yes, the US would see the financial benefits, and i do believe not only the financial side of it, but crime rates also drooping, savings with justice procedures, health procedures and many people would be able to regain dignity and contribute to society. But the real problem, imo, with the US runs way deeper because private prisons are allowed, private health corporations have great power in the US (same goes with guns) and the pharmaceutical private corporations also. Imo, many things had to change in the US to have the same effect. But if it could be done? If decriminalizing could be the first step to change?...that would truly make america great again! =)
It is financially worth it. If one truck gives methadone to 300 people a day, imagine how many robberies, assaults, arrests, jail costs and court fees/time were saved every month? Way more than the cost of a stupid truck driving around and handing out cheap drugs that will keep multiple people clean and capable to be productive long term. It's not about what it costs but what you end up not spending.
Viva Portugal. Viva os Portugueses. Humildes e trabalhadores. E com uma educação acima da média. 90% das pessoas que apareceram na reportagem falam Inglês!! Só isso diz muito do POVO que somos!! PORTUGAL SEMPRE CARAGO
@@Rafa-ey6ve porquê?? Fui à escola com dificuldades. Fiz até ao 12°. Falo e escrevo três linguas!! Continuo a aprender até hoje. Porque quero e a maior parte dos Portugueses que conheço são assim. Que Português és tu?? Se calhar aqueles que gostam de ser Ignorantes!? Faz te um homem e apoia o teu País. Não o teu clube!! E Tu?? Portugal sempre
@@karljokkerlukkas_974 Concordo com tudo até a parte do carago. Carago? Meu é esse o exemplo que queres dar aos nossos (*suspiro) . Olha eu vou ajudar-te substitui a palavra carago por caralho e veras logo a diferença.
Here in Sweden with the most repressive drug laws in Europe there are more than double the amount of drug related death than when it peaked in Portugal in the 90s...
Isn't this essentially how we deal with it in States like California and Oregon? People aren't getting arrested for drug usage. They are it's merely a ticket in there put right back on the street in most areas I believe. Perhaps the difference is in availability of treatment at most any street corner in Portugal.
10 million people in Portugal with only about 365 opioid deaths per year (0.0036%) vs 6 million people in the state of Massachusetts with 2,150 deaths per year (0.036%) = either Portugal had a mild problem before or the USA persists with a massive problem
Unfortunately this system couldn't work in the USA.....Why? Because of the individualistic attitude of the vast majority of Americans. Both Joe public and the political demigods who continue to be voted into public office are included in this comment. Americans will continue to fight their headache with medication instead of looking for the root cause.
Also, if an addict takes this treatment and he knows more "veteran" addicted people who uses these drugs for years, they could scale things up by telling them that there is a way out and a treatment. It will not only generate good results but a better visibility on the problem.
How much does it cost annually to run the methadone van program? Seems like this is the question that was never asked...maybe I missed it or no one wants to hear the answer?
I lived in Lisbon during the madness. I was in a squat in Queluz-Belas area called Zarabatana. I scored my H and coke in Mouraria and Intendente. I ended up in a couple if fucked up so called rehab (Remar and Redo). Anyone from Lisbon remember a punk called Camy/Kamee/Camie from back then?
What you can take away from this is: It's better to help an adiction, instead of judging for it. Deep down, portuguese are just being better, and more caring people.
Sadly the USA insurance system is ....... adequate ..... even at a State level, as long as you do not have .... hard, longstanding catastrophic illnesses.
Why should Americans seeing this think it's pretty wild? Methadone is also provided in the USA. It's one drug replacing another drug-- methadone. Which is not so healthy for the body either, but at least they keep these addicts off the streets.
Portugal's greatest resource is was and will always be it's people. Unfortunately, throughout most of Portuguese history, Portugal's elites were more interested in preserving the status quo, and their privileged positions, than in keeping millions of Portuguese from emigrating to countries with better economic opportunities. As a result Portugal now suffers from a population and brain drain bigger than any of if it's closest neighbors. The future of Portugal is and will always be in continuing to make necessary investments in education, health, infrastructure as well as the new economy. The exodus of Portuguese citizens from Portugal has enriched the world but unfortunately left Portugal stagnant. The only positive in this exodus is that the many who have done well now wish to give back to their beloved country and their brothers.
São 2 países incomparáveis. Origens Culturais distintas. Não se trata de serem melhores ou piores, sao apenas diferentes que requerem soluções também diferentes.
Se a America estivesse realmente preocupada com o uso de drogas, não permitiria todos os anos centenas de filmes onde uma boa parte do tempo faz propaganda ao uso "cool" de drogas, leves ou duras. Sao inumeras, e ate muitas vezes completamente fora do contexto da história do filme, as vezes que se alimenta a ideia de que é "normal" e "fixe" tomar drogas. Cenas entre adolescentes, casais novos e casais mais velhos, policias, professores, juizes, médicos e outras entidades de autoridade e idoneidade na sociedade, são lugares-comuns nos filmes de hollywood. Principalmente a partir do inicio do século XXI. Curiosamente aqui nesta peça, um português relata que esteve no afeganistão em missão, junto com as forças americanas. Em 2001, com a invasão militar pela força militar americana (e um pouco de outros paises) no afeganistão, a propósito da busca ao Bin laden, combate aos talibãs do al-qaeda, em que mãos terão ficado, até hoje, todos os campos de cultivo do maior produtor de ópio do mundo?
@@albertoferreira403 Compreendo o seu ponto de vista. Penso no entanto que as mesmas pessoas que teem gerido o planeta com pulso de ferro, teem sido os mesmos no poder americano desde sempre, mudando apenas após a eleição de Trump. Com qualquer país é fácil olhar às coisas horríveis que cada um tem feito, mais difícil é desviar esse Focus para as coisas boas que vão fazendo. O nosso País é um belo exemplo disso. Não somos nem nunca fomos santos nenhuns, pelo contrário, muita podridão tem partido daqui desde sempre, ao ponto de querermos ser donos do mundo. É fácil apontar defeitos aos americanos ou à outros, difícil é olharmos ao espelho e identificar os nossos próprios males. A verdade é que me sinto profundamente grato por sentir fortemente todo este paradigma a mudar e ver como aos poucos vamos fazendo essa mudança dos dedos apontados para fora, para os 3 dedos que sempre sobram e que apontam para dentro. Americanos, Portugueses, Chineses, não passamos todos de Humanos que precisam encontrar esse ponto de integração em que na verdade não há separação. Será que conseguimos usar esses mesmos dedos para apontar antes o que há de bom nos outros? Quem sabe eles comecem a fazer o mesmo?
The drug war is a greed issue if all drugs were legal someone would lose profits and USA is a corporation...in the poorest of countries you will see smiles try to find smiles in USA its as rare as gold it’s their but you gotta dig for it
Ahh god this turns me off the moment I hear the 1st few sentences: "It was a haven for heroin addicts" .... No it wasn't. It was hell, because even if they wanted to get treatment they couldn't, since admitting they had a problem would be equal to admitting they committed a crime by consuming those substances.
The "portuguese" solution, actually seems like the obvious solution, the only logical one, I mean, regarding the key tenets at least. 1. Decriminalization: It's obvious, you are not hurting anyone by consuming drugs, so why should you get a criminal record from it? Really wrong policy on the countries that do that. 2. Health situation: If there is a public health issue, deal with it, treat it, as simple as that. It will work anywhere else just like it does in Portugal, though of course it needs to be adapted locally to each case. 3. As a disclaimer, I'm Portuguese, but I would be criticizing Portugal if this wasn't being done, because it's simply the logical course of action.
And consider that 20 years ago, Portugal was the poorest country in Western Europe. Can the wealthiest country in the world implement something similar? Yes! Do they want to? No
@@BellsandJess opioides? A distribuição em massa começou em força, primeiro com piratas chineses, e depois com os britanicos que escurraçaram esses piratas e inundaram a china com ópio.. dai, foi só uma questão de tempo. Localmente (zonas especificas) as drogas são muito, muito mais antigas.
Até pelo menos meados dos anos 90 era um grande problema sim, principalmente de heroína que essa se via bem, na magreza e na cara dos consumidores... hoje em dia ainda existe mas são outras em que as pessoas conseguem gerir a sua vida sem que a sociedade se aperceba ou se incomode tanto...
Não nos apercebemos porque ao contrário de todos os outros países do mundo, uso de drogas não contribuiu para o aumento da criminalidade. Tinhas estes drogados todos mas ainda éramos o terceiro país mais seguro do mundo. Triste os emigrantes que vem para Portugal não perceberem que o melhor de Portugal é ser tão pacífico
We are small because we didn't have an open continent to explore with just indigenous people with almost no tech while we had British tech. We, just like all European nations, had bright and different civilizations close to us, so competition makes it harder to grow in size locally at least . Also it's football not soccer, we play with our feet not our hands like in your football
we are a small country, not a dumb one.
Portugal is not a small country in fact its a medium size country both at European and worl level. The same size or bigger than Austria, Holland, Greece etc..
@@daniy1426 True, 19th country in size out of 51 in Europe. That's just one of those lies told too many times.
pride comes before a fall...one solution doesn't make a country smart or dumb...
We are smart in some questions. We are dumb for the others...
@@arandomguy777 Just human nature, that's common to us all ... ;) :)
I thought this was a video about COVID 19 epidemic, In fact, Portugal has responded smartly and effectively to this current crisis too.
And, btw, I love Portugal.
And, Portugal trains and exports excellent doctors. Parabens.
@@eigobike3929 Thank you for your words
@@eigobike3929 That's not good for us. Having our skilled youth leaving the country by the thousands every year because they have no perspectives of any decent future here isn't fun.
We did what others countries did. Included the lying, mistakes and covering up of numbers.
Just a minor correction: Portugal doesn't have a federal government, since it is a unitary state.
Deixa, é eles e a mania dos estados e federalismos 😂
It's probably just a kind of translation so the people in america can understand that portuguese government equates to their federal government.
@@tmtb No, thank you
tmtb America has federal and state so they Tax us twice! 😢
Sr. Angelo You obviously have never been to Portugal and you definitely have never been to a communist country. Portuguese have more freedom than Americans. So what do you consider the United States to be?
Being a adict for 14 years injecting H, this Shift in Politis saved my life. Im now clean for 16 years. Methadone was my life saver. Unbelievable! Thanks João Goulão.
Vasco Apolonio , muitos Parabéns e força. 👍
@Vasco Albuquerque Se ele pode, tu podes. Com metadona, vontade e alguma ajuda. Procura-a.
E agora nao és agarrado á metadona, queres ver ...
@Vasco Albuquerque so saires á rua na mesma, campeao .. Qqr coisa dizes que vais comprar comida, pa ...
@@diogopinto9462 ganda bacano a incentivar o homem pa cair
ajuda o homem a se levantar
agora dar ideias a uma pessoa que é dependente foscasse
Metadona save my life in 2002 after 25 years using heroína, thanks to all that friends who make my life Change. Actualy i have a Daughter 17 years old and it s my light
❤
Parabéns amigo. Que continues sempre limpo.
Parabéns amigo
É uma luta diária, para o resto da vida de quem experimentou, mas o mais importante é dar prioridade é focar no que realmente importa!! Força, todos guerreiros💚
Um dia de cada vez!! Grande Abraço
Vamos continuar. Vale sempre a pena!!
Even our junkies speak english 😂
My thought exactly!!! On the serious side, could also mean, here in Portugal, heroin addiction is, unlike our own prejudices, not exclusive of the poor an uneducated.
are mexicans who been living in the united states for 15 plus years cant dont speak english
as a portuguese dude myself, i have met a few drug addicts in my life. they were jerks.
Conseguem piorar sempre tudo nestas reportagens
Ahahaha! You're the worst x'D
It can’t work in the U.S because of only two things:
1° - The U.S doesn’t have a Universal Health Care system. And there is no money to be gained in giving free methadone to those who want to leave their drug addiction slowly. In fact, the american pharmaceutical industry has an invested interested in keeping people addicted, not the other way around.
2° - A great part of the prison system in America is privatized, and they capitalize in mass incarceration. Having laws that treat drug addicts as criminals is something they have a monetary interest in keeping. That industry doesn’t want drug addiction to be seen as a mental or a health problem.
Until those things change, nothing will in America.
It could be tried in a state or two, to see how it would go... Once people knew the good results, they would demand their politicians to change their mind. It would be so good for Americans and others to try this Portuguese Program.
100% true!!!
I saw a couple of docs about methadone in the US uaaaau scary shit...
Antiamerican bullshit and lies
Sónia Conceição As an American I can state that Americans cant demand anything from the Government. Not from the Federal or the State government. Plus Pharmaceutical companies (BigPHarm, as Americans like to call it) would never allow it.
dam i thought this was about coronavirus
Same here ahah
me too
Especially since Portugal is being pretty sensible about handling the pandemic: Early shutdown and social distancing. I live in Central Portugal.
LOL.... me too! Only after watching I noticed the date :))) still... I think Portugal did an impressive job in preventing drug abuse, OD's, drug related criminality and related jail sentences... I also think it's doing a great job in the Covid-19 Pandemic!! (as a Berliner born in Lisbon it makes me very proud :)
Yap the seem
It could work in the US if Healthcare and the prison systems weren't a huge business...
now you say it all........... US prison systems a business of billions
Word.
Thats why they will fight it, not why it won't work.
so queria ler uns comentários de estrangeiros, a ver o que eles pensam, mas aqui é tudo portugues 😂
Vivo no Porto, mais concretamente no Viso. Isto aqui parece o The Walking Dead dos ressacas... Isto é tudo muito bonito, mas hoje em dia no Porto em todo o lado há drogados a pedir dinheiro para a droga. São mais que os estrangeiros. Engraçado é que para toda a gente está tudo bem. O que interessa é que somos um exemplo para os americanos...
Ahahah same
@@pedroabreu1166 eles nunca disseram que acabaram com a droga em Portugal, mas consideram vitoria porque muitos aqui conseguiram se safar com ajudas e internamentos.
nos Usa sejas consumidor ou traficante é logo cadeia, não ha ajudas, ou te limpas sozinho ou ficas agarrado para sempre.
@@pedroabreu1166 aqui em baixo no algarve mais propriamente Tavira, a camara municipal alugou uns contentores para a malta que consome e vive na rua.
uma semana depois eles parecem outras pessoas, banho tomado, refeição não falta, a cruz vermelha oferece.
Nos Us eles morriam num canto qualquer sem ninguém saber
@@pedroabreu1166 e eu a pensar que o norte só tinha velhos
A shout out to everyone watching this video because they thought it was about COVID 19
This story misses one other important aspect, the breakdown of some of the guetos in LIsbon which were the the major hotspots for drugs, 20 years ago you could drive by its streets and see young girls of 12/13 and above sitting on the cobbled streets shooting H, they were like human rags that much reminded zombies on The Walking Dead, Lisbon city hall demolished parts of two major guettos, recuperated some others and builded dozens if not hundreds of new buildings with social rents (low income workers) but this time instead of concentrating it in the same area they displaced it all over the metropolitan area along with some primary and critical services and stores (that in the past they didnt have) including police stations to keep drug trafficking in check. In short by starting also the close proximity police for schools and those other two aspects above depicted they managed to reduce offer and demand over the years with less OD per capita.
This was another key point on the whole battle. If you life a miserable life, your one steep closer to through it away. Be them drugs, alcohol or whatever floats your boat! On the US, like someone mentioned before, not sure if we'll ever see something like this happen. Again, does it make someone rich? If not, it's a bad idea. Cheers to all
ua-cam.com/video/r_Tu3VxDaqw/v-deo.html
Video about Casal Ventoso neighborhood. This illustrates in video what you wrote. turn on Subs and translate in UA-cam options.
instead of getting one dangerous place, now everywhere has a ghetto
@@wolololer dont know if you are a troll, misinformed or a joker
Still remember back in early 2000's to pass by Casal Ventoso onboard a train to Alcântara-Terra, and watch several people injecting themselves in the slope next to the railway line. In broad daylight. It was horrific.
It's not just about overdoses deaths.
Along with the decriminalization came programs to support addicts and user, like free needles. That led to a decrease on drug related diseases ( which were a serious problem in Portugal ).
Crime related to the usage of drugs also dropped, much due to the fact that with the metadone replacement addicts don't have to search for their fix everyday. That means they don't get the need to steal or kill just to get by the day.
This small country called Portugal, the same your Chanel compare with single “departments” of USA, is a country with more then just a “solution” for pandemic drugs. In Portugal the access to weapons it’s not easy and “free of charge” as it is in the BIG young country USA! In Portugal less people dies killed by weapons then USA and Congratulations to Portugal for his proactive actions and management agains the new coronavirus! Respect ✊ small country with a big heart and humble people.
Chiiiilllll... a little bit. Ok?
Falas isso porq nnc tiveste uma 9mm apontada à cara. Aqui só os bandidos têm armas
@@mdr-ns5un foi o q ele disse lol
@@Jorge-cz3wx "In Portugal the access to weapons it’s not easy"
@@mdr-ns5un exato, o acesso a armas é difícil logo só os bandidos q têm. .-.
Thank you my country for teaching the world how to clean up from drugs !
i save my life with this treatments, thanks.
Paulobraveheart M me too. In the U.K.
Paulobraveheart M wish America didn’t only care about making money and putting everyone in prison
@@aaronpowell3282 don't start H then, you idiot ..
@@diogopinto9462 stfu you fucken troll
@@diogopinto9462 não é assim que funciona. Quem não tem uma mente forte em certas situações é foda.
Why are you playing SPANISH music in the background. We are not Spain!
Nor are we clean of drugs ..
If it's not a crime then it's like it's not there, but it is ...
Yes. I am Portuguese! I know my country and music and don’t like when we get confused with Spain!
@@anna3046 lmkkmmmmm grupo de tugas a discutir em ingles ..
@@diogopinto9462 grande carocho que tu és
@@desporto6559 caga nesse artista
I think in the US everything good or bad is profit, in my country we still try to defend family values, so if you treat an drug adicted person you "save" is family and friends, not some greedy company... So many thanks to SR. João Goulão for his commitment!!! My father still uses this program and his is doing much better then back in those horrible years... An advise to my US brothers, embrace whats better to help your families and country! love from the ever greatest old country...
Best European country
como diria o JJ. "da europa não, do munde"
😂
Melhor país do mundo
hummm.. não sei se é o melhor, mas que tem uma boa qualidade de vida comparada com outros paises, lá isso tem.
@@grungil7570 Para mim ė o melhor porque ė o meu, mas gosto muito de outros paises Europeus
Not the epidemic you thought (2020)
Still dealing better with it.
pax und peace exactly 😂
Im portuguese and this works, a friend of mine became adicted to hard drugs, but the gorvenement did not treat him as a criminal but as patient that needs help, he was sent to reab and thankfully it worked and know is life is on tracks again. I dont remenber a time were this police was not in place but i remenber the sories that my parentes told me of large amounts of their friends were lost to a drug that they didnt realize what it did
2:35 dislike because you said soccer
True
He lost me there haha
podes crer, quase meti dislike por causa disso ahahah enerva bué
The name of the sport in English should be properly changed to Feetball - it's played with the feet not one foot.
That would solve the problem correctly.
Pass it on - Feetball.
America can keep its football kicked with only one foot.
I've seen lots of comments from Americans saying that this would be impossible to do in the US.
I agree, not only because of the reasons that have already been stated from their point of view.
By treating addicts, we got them off the streets. By that time, we also started to restore some old buildings and taking care of our property. Our main cities are now safer and cleaner than what they were 15-20 years ago, and that has contributed to the country's development in tourism.
Porto and Lisboa have gained massive popularity since the turn of the century, as both cities got multiple "Best European Destination" awards over the last decade. Tourism is very important for our economy, whereas in some American states, it might not be.
Don't lose hope, Americans. The video states that this extreme approach was not really liked by the government in the beginning, but as results started showing, they had no choice but to keep doing it. Results started showing long before the tourism boom.
Another point was the mentality, ceased to be cool, ceased to be a weapon of freedom and affirmation, became stupid, and friends help but if he continues he will be alone.
Portugal is not a small country in fact its a medium size country both at European and world level. The same size or bigger than Austria, Holland, Greece etc..
Compared to the USA any European country is tiny from Luxembourg to Germany. Portugal is the 19th largest country out of 52 in the European continent and that is how one evaluates the size of a country, otherwise a Dutch would have to speak about the giant Portugal for being twice the size of Holland!!!
@ML8593wy - context = you could fit 4x Portugal into Texas and still have 20,000 sq miles to spare.
@@cornishmaid5073 non sense! you could fit 2x germany into Texas.... so your conclusion Germany its a small country!!! Ahahaha
Como assim não somos um país pequeno ? Ahah acorda meu irmão
@@mduvens Não Portugal não é um Pais pequeno nem é discutível é uma simples questão de matemática se há tantos paises menores como maiores então somos um Pais de dimensão média. Pequena só a cabeça de alguns Portugueses.
US political ideology is scary from this side, we are different but it's not the end of the world if the political issue get's better. Learning with each other in many ways will bring us to a better future
What a huge undertaking. All the treatment imfrastructure they have there is incredible. Good for Portugal.
Im free from heroine for 15 years Metadone saved me
Portugal!!!!! My beautiful country!
Joana Borges where do live? I was born and raised in New Jersey but left when I turned 25 I moved to Portugal and have Been living out here for 7 years now and love it.
well this was a very simplistic, and a very American way to see how we solve this an a bit misleading.
only the consumption was decriminalized, not the drugs it self, the consumption was decriminalized so we could help the drug addict.
one gets the impression the drugs were decriminalized, that is not so, not even cannabis.
this was a multi-prong approach on many levels, passing by de physical destruction and rehabilitation of areas were the drug traffic was greater (casal ventoso etc) meaning taking a bulldozer and crushing the neighborhoods were dealers were living and dealing while at the same time our "DEA" crack down on them, while at the same time those programs described in this piece like the methadone vans and many other programs in the same vane helped the drug addict .
so not has simple has "lets decriminalize drugs and give vans with methadone rolling around and everything will be fine" vibe like this piece makes it look.
One big difference that explains the United States’ approach. Our prisons aren’t privately owned.
They've had methadone treatment in the US since the 1960s..it works for many people. It works for me, and I've been on it on and off for 25 yrs. We have to do meetings, go to counseling, and we can earn takeouts so we don't have to go everyday...the only difference is we have clinics instead of buses, and if you don't have insurance, it's $300. a month
Wow $300 a month, Australia average $150 a month . I have been on methadone for nearly 11 years - lifesaver.
Not to be a dick but doesn’t sound like methadone is really working for you. I understand it may help you get by but you keep going back. Have you tried kratom ? A lot of people don’t know about it but it does work believe it or not I wasn’t on H but worked for 400 mg habit a day of oxy
Portugal its free the metadone . Im portuguese and let me tell u that 15 years ago , it was an epidemic the drug use, drug relared crimes, overdoses. After the decriminalation (not legalization as many think) the use of drugs, the drug related crimes dropped drastactly, police when caugh someone with small amouts of drugs, would help u and not treat u as a bandid. They would of course take the drugs and try to have a chat with u where u could get help. Of course if u got caugh with lots of drugs as a dealer, u would be prosecuted and jailed. Portugal instead of seing the drug useres as criminals, started to see them as people with health problems and direct them to treatment. I telling u, 15 years ago u coulnt walk at night; u would br robbed; lots of robberys, burgelaries, homicide, etc. Now Portugal is a great exemple about how it tackled the drug problem. Wherever u might read on coments, take my opinion as the truth about Portugal and decriminalization. I in first hand was a heroin user, and with these laws, my life changed. Thank u
Yes 300 a month but if u got caught ever before treatment life literally ruined! Especially if your black
Carrieann I’m in the U.K. and have been on juice a long time. Pick up once a week and see my key worker once a fortnight for about 10 mins. Costs me £110 a year because I work and pay up front. Saved my life without a doubt.
Pessoal tuga que só entrou por ser Portugal, onde estão vocês?
Aqui HAHAHA
As recomendações do UA-cam são do crlh, ves video sobre a tuga é o resto da semana com sugestões
te foder
@@dajoaw Ahaha, sem dúvida
Eu, mas tb pq pensava que era por causa do corona lol
As pessoas cujas matriculas dos automoveis, que pararam para receber tratamento, e que foram aqui nitidamente exibidas na reportagem, devem estar muito satisfeitas com a falta cuidado de perservação de identidade/ privacidade.
Alberto Ferreira entao mete nos 14:40 tens o nome inteiro do jaime que fuma haxixe desde o 9o ano e que vive com a irma e mae
ahha Portuguese answering in english in their own country you don't see much of that in other countries .
@ML8593wy already traveled a lot ;D , but that's not the point of the joke and by your reply you didn't get it ahah .
This is not made by portuguese or for portuguese. We already know everything about this. Maybe we should be less polite, but it is not the portuguese way.
The thing is, any foreign will tell you that portuguese people speak better english than in most countries! That's a fact!
Don't forget that English is learnt at school by all students. So it is not difficult for us to speak English.
laughs in dutch
Drug use is first a public health issue and only after a criminal issue. If you flip the priority around the solution will not work. If you cut the supply of drugs all you do is increase criminality. It's common sense really. It's not that anyone wants to pick up the tab and go out there and pay for this solution, it's that the alternative is so much more costly. Drug users should not be in prison, even if petty crime is involved, they need to be given a way out. Low demand for drug dealers reduces criminality. Get the drug lords out of politics in the US and you can implement these ideas, adapted to your own reality, which of course is different than Portugal, due to more gang activity and gun use, but still possible.
I wish this program could be implemented in the US. but I don't believe the States will see the financial benefits to the a program. One benefit would be more people would be able to work and pay taxes meaning they would get off the state paid insurance. The more people working the less crime. The crime rate dropping would increase property values increase meaning higher property tax. The most important benefit the families and individuals it would save. Maybe the see all that but let's not forget it's about money.
The true
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On the long run, yes, the US would see the financial benefits, and i do believe not only the financial side of it, but crime rates also drooping, savings with justice procedures, health procedures and many people would be able to regain dignity and contribute to society. But the real problem, imo, with the US runs way deeper because private prisons are allowed, private health corporations have great power in the US (same goes with guns) and the pharmaceutical private corporations also. Imo, many things had to change in the US to have the same effect. But if it could be done? If decriminalizing could be the first step to change?...that would truly make america great again! =)
agreed on all counts. ty for posting, tnightwolf. We have a lot of changes to make, but we could IF we chose to.
And the Philippines
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It is financially worth it.
If one truck gives methadone to 300 people a day, imagine how many robberies, assaults, arrests, jail costs and court fees/time were saved every month?
Way more than the cost of a stupid truck driving around and handing out cheap drugs that will keep multiple people clean and capable to be productive long term.
It's not about what it costs but what you end up not spending.
Portugal first !!
Bullshit!
Yoda Google Portugal first bitchh cryyyy
Portugal once was one of the most important countries in the world,and still is in some ways.
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Well....when I open the world map..we are right there at the center ;D
This made me so proud of my country!
Viva Portugal. Viva os Portugueses.
Humildes e trabalhadores. E com uma educação acima da média.
90% das pessoas que apareceram na reportagem falam Inglês!! Só isso diz muito do POVO que somos!!
PORTUGAL SEMPRE CARAGO
educação acima da média? essa é nova
@@Rafa-ey6ve porquê?? Fui à escola com dificuldades. Fiz até ao 12°.
Falo e escrevo três linguas!! Continuo a aprender até hoje. Porque quero e a maior parte dos Portugueses que conheço são assim. Que Português és tu?? Se calhar aqueles que gostam de ser Ignorantes!? Faz te um homem e apoia o teu País. Não o teu clube!!
E Tu?? Portugal sempre
@@karljokkerlukkas_974 lol
@@karljokkerlukkas_974 Concordo com tudo até a parte do carago. Carago? Meu é esse o exemplo que queres dar aos nossos (*suspiro) . Olha eu vou ajudar-te substitui a palavra carago por caralho e veras logo a diferença.
@ então pronto
Foda-se, Caralho!! Somos Portugueses Caralho
It's cheaper for the state, that's the whole point
and better for the people.
@@paxundpeace9970 no ..
@@diogopinto9462 how? How is not better for ppl?
Less deaths=not better for people?
What's this moon logic
Good job Portugal, we in Sweden still believe in zero tolerance... You don't want to see our stats on overdoses.
Also not having a medical industry that doesn´t prescribe opioids for backpain also helps
Fascinating ..... God Bless You ....... Sharing!
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With this sort of mobile unit, this program could work in the US and other countries.
good job, but you could've asked all the people interviewed to spell their names...
I tried to teach some brits how to spell João, trust me it is not an easy task.
@@speedy_delivery I have yet to hear a foreigner pronounce João correctly
Ricardo alves and Miguel 😂
Very nice video!
Addiction is a disease, not a crime. That's what we realized and what all countries should too.
Here in Sweden with the most repressive drug laws in Europe there are more than double the amount of drug related death than when it peaked in Portugal in the 90s...
We are small but strong
We are the father and mother of civilization. PORTUGAL.
Don't listen to this guy, not all portugueese are like this.
@@anabelaramos8399 ahaha exato 😂😂
Isn't this essentially how we deal with it in States like California and Oregon? People aren't getting arrested for drug usage. They are it's merely a ticket in there put right back on the street in most areas I believe. Perhaps the difference is in availability of treatment at most any street corner in Portugal.
@ 11:20 if you're not strong enough, the wrong type of woman or man, can literally turn your life upside down.
apparently portugal can be cut down to just lisbon
Such a cool news piece! 👏🙏
os comentarios disto é só um monte de tugas a falar e reclamar em ingles jesus
10 million people in Portugal with only about 365 opioid deaths per year (0.0036%) vs 6 million people in the state of Massachusetts with 2,150 deaths per year (0.036%) = either Portugal had a mild problem before or the USA persists with a massive problem
Unfortunately this system couldn't work in the USA.....Why? Because of the individualistic attitude of the vast majority of Americans. Both Joe public and the political demigods who continue to be voted into public office are included in this comment. Americans will continue to fight their headache with medication instead of looking for the root cause.
I'm stunned, a small country showing up in a American regional channel news! Let's ask the people of Boston where is Portugal 😂
many answers are gonna be Spain for sure😂
Great job Portugal👌💪👏
Also, if an addict takes this treatment and he knows more "veteran" addicted people who uses these drugs for years, they could scale things up by telling them that there is a way out and a treatment. It will not only generate good results but a better visibility on the problem.
Finally a country that really care for its people, very smart plan to start and should be copy by all countries
Proud 🇵🇹
Lesser evil for the greater good!
How much does it cost annually to run the methadone van program? Seems like this is the question that was never asked...maybe I missed it or no one wants to hear the answer?
I lived in Lisbon during the madness. I was in a squat in Queluz-Belas area called Zarabatana. I scored my H and coke in Mouraria and Intendente. I ended up in a couple if fucked up so called rehab (Remar and Redo). Anyone from Lisbon remember a punk called Camy/Kamee/Camie from back then?
you're American?
What you can take away from this is: It's better to help an adiction, instead of judging for it. Deep down, portuguese are just being better, and more caring people.
I legit thought this video was about the pandemic ahahaha. Really good video tho!
We are good with epidemics, both drugs and virus XD
acasfs001 Somos os maiores
Ola from Brazil.
small country with big history
Portugal its a medium size country!
did they show the car plate of the methadone user? wtf
Sadly the USA insurance system is ....... adequate ..... even at a State level, as long as you do not have .... hard, longstanding catastrophic illnesses.
just to clarify that Portugal isn't a spainish province
this title didnt age well
why not?
💚🇵🇹❤️from Portugal/Madeira
Great report, but next time get the people to write down their names hahaha
Save lifes, recovery people life's. 🤗
Why should Americans seeing this think it's pretty wild? Methadone is also provided in the USA. It's one drug replacing another drug-- methadone. Which is not so healthy for the body either, but at least they keep these addicts off the streets.
Portugal's greatest resource is was and will always be it's people. Unfortunately, throughout most of Portuguese history, Portugal's elites were more interested in preserving the status quo, and their privileged positions, than in keeping millions of Portuguese from emigrating to countries with better economic opportunities. As a result Portugal now suffers from a population and brain drain bigger than any of if it's closest neighbors. The future of Portugal is and will always be in continuing to make necessary investments in education, health, infrastructure as well as the new economy. The exodus of Portuguese citizens from Portugal has enriched the world but unfortunately left Portugal stagnant. The only positive in this exodus is that the many who have done well now wish to give back to their beloved country and their brothers.
15:07 guy casually shitting on the US healthcare system was the highlight for me
Yes .....😁
We have Fatima, Benfica and wine. We have different problems.
When you forbid,people want more but if you say is OK,people just don't care.
Its good you watch other countries wins. Watch the good things other countries have is the way.good luck.
São 2 países incomparáveis. Origens Culturais distintas. Não se trata de serem melhores ou piores, sao apenas diferentes que requerem soluções também diferentes.
Se a America estivesse realmente preocupada com o uso de drogas, não permitiria todos os anos centenas de filmes onde uma boa parte do tempo faz propaganda ao uso "cool" de drogas, leves ou duras. Sao inumeras, e ate muitas vezes completamente fora do contexto da história do filme, as vezes que se alimenta a ideia de que é "normal" e "fixe" tomar drogas. Cenas entre adolescentes, casais novos e casais mais velhos, policias, professores, juizes, médicos e outras entidades de autoridade e idoneidade na sociedade, são lugares-comuns nos filmes de hollywood. Principalmente a partir do inicio do século XXI. Curiosamente aqui nesta peça, um português relata que esteve no afeganistão em missão, junto com as forças americanas. Em 2001, com a invasão militar pela força militar americana (e um pouco de outros paises) no afeganistão, a propósito da busca ao Bin laden, combate aos talibãs do al-qaeda, em que mãos terão ficado, até hoje, todos os campos de cultivo do maior produtor de ópio do mundo?
@@albertoferreira403 Compreendo o seu ponto de vista. Penso no entanto que as mesmas pessoas que teem gerido o planeta com pulso de ferro, teem sido os mesmos no poder americano desde sempre, mudando apenas após a eleição de Trump. Com qualquer país é fácil olhar às coisas horríveis que cada um tem feito, mais difícil é desviar esse Focus para as coisas boas que vão fazendo. O nosso País é um belo exemplo disso. Não somos nem nunca fomos santos nenhuns, pelo contrário, muita podridão tem partido daqui desde sempre, ao ponto de querermos ser donos do mundo. É fácil apontar defeitos aos americanos ou à outros, difícil é olharmos ao espelho e identificar os nossos próprios males. A verdade é que me sinto profundamente grato por sentir fortemente todo este paradigma a mudar e ver como aos poucos vamos fazendo essa mudança dos dedos apontados para fora, para os 3 dedos que sempre sobram e que apontam para dentro. Americanos, Portugueses, Chineses, não passamos todos de Humanos que precisam encontrar esse ponto de integração em que na verdade não há separação. Será que conseguimos usar esses mesmos dedos para apontar antes o que há de bom nos outros? Quem sabe eles comecem a fazer o mesmo?
The drug war is a greed issue if all drugs were legal someone would lose profits and USA is a corporation...in the poorest of countries you will see smiles try to find smiles in USA its as rare as gold it’s their but you gotta dig for it
Ahh god this turns me off the moment I hear the 1st few sentences:
"It was a haven for heroin addicts" .... No it wasn't. It was hell, because even if they wanted to get treatment they couldn't, since admitting they had a problem would be equal to admitting they committed a crime by consuming those substances.
Good report!
I'm loving the mistranslated names. Rue? Nolosko? The letter K isn't even in the Portuguese alphabet
Wow a special episode about Portugal nice
they didn't remove the plate on the car.....for real?
I'm laughing real hard at the way the narrator said João Goulão
The "portuguese" solution, actually seems like the obvious solution, the only logical one, I mean, regarding the key tenets at least. 1. Decriminalization: It's obvious, you are not hurting anyone by consuming drugs, so why should you get a criminal record from it? Really wrong policy on the countries that do that. 2. Health situation: If there is a public health issue, deal with it, treat it, as simple as that. It will work anywhere else just like it does in Portugal, though of course it needs to be adapted locally to each case. 3. As a disclaimer, I'm Portuguese, but I would be criticizing Portugal if this wasn't being done, because it's simply the logical course of action.
And consider that 20 years ago, Portugal was the poorest country in Western Europe. Can the wealthiest country in the world implement something similar? Yes! Do they want to? No
And I still get bothered by the cops for smoking weed 🙄
That’s Portugal for you
Eu sou português e não sabia que tínhamos tanta droga assim em portugal
Subs beto
Quantos anos e que tens Subs? A droga tá mais o menos em todos os sítios do mundo. Desde sei lá quando.
@@BellsandJess opioides? A distribuição em massa começou em força, primeiro com piratas chineses, e depois com os britanicos que escurraçaram esses piratas e inundaram a china com ópio.. dai, foi só uma questão de tempo. Localmente (zonas especificas) as drogas são muito, muito mais antigas.
Até pelo menos meados dos anos 90 era um grande problema sim, principalmente de heroína que essa se via bem, na magreza e na cara dos consumidores... hoje em dia ainda existe mas são outras em que as pessoas conseguem gerir a sua vida sem que a sociedade se aperceba ou se incomode tanto...
Não nos apercebemos porque ao contrário de todos os outros países do mundo, uso de drogas não contribuiu para o aumento da criminalidade. Tinhas estes drogados todos mas ainda éramos o terceiro país mais seguro do mundo. Triste os emigrantes que vem para Portugal não perceberem que o melhor de Portugal é ser tão pacífico
Come to the Algarve and I'll show you a bunch of junkies. We still got a lot of them.
I dont understand why this is in english. when portuguese reporters go to usa they speak english. Even at languages we are more advanced.
WTF, "Portugal the heroin heaven " . Do I live in paradise and I don't now !?
We are small because we didn't have an open continent to explore with just indigenous people with almost no tech while we had British tech. We, just like all European nations, had bright and different civilizations close to us, so competition makes it harder to grow in size locally at least . Also it's football not soccer, we play with our feet not our hands like in your football