So first JP was sexually assaulted by a student, then he got abused and coerced by a police officer, turned to alcohol, lost his career, got attacked, and now he's getting conversion therapy. Poor JP can't catch a break!
Wow, I genuinely feel chills watching this storyline already! I'm so glad Hollyoaks is exploring this horrible world & I look forward to learning more. I hope Ste is able to rescue his friend, son & Dillon & that Carter gets what he truly deserves.
HiveMistress & Her Guinea Pig Maybe there’s something to this to why Carter’s doing this. Maybe he used to be Gay but then he went to conversion therapy and he still knows deep down that he’s Gay but he’s fighting it.
This storyline with carter is ironic because the actors gay in real life his character is cruel trying to change someone’s orientation when it can’t probably be changed so annoying
I loved his first Major Storyline accidentally falling in love with his bestmate painfully hiding his love until he confessed which made Craig begin to feel differently about him which led to them eventual having a very passionate fiery on off love affair I preferred his attitude I liked his confidence how he would stick up for himself and his family he took on both Sonny and Justin when they hit his love I also liked him being a DJ and liked when he would hit his punching bag usually when he was mad with Craig I still believe his first ending was his best finally getting to kiss his love in public and leaving together to start a life together he never looked happier.
I could tell the second Garrett heard JPs story he felt awful and he realised that this manipulation of JP is an act of revenge on Carters part. It makes you wonder.. Is Freya perhaps a lesbian too and her father attempted conversion therapy with her? Her parents seperated over it but once her mother died it resumed under Carters care. Freya falling for Hunter was nothing more than psychological. They could go very dark with this... For now trying to change John Paul so that he will no longer be attacked and as an act of malice is disgusting.
Carter is also likely gay that’s trying to prove you can be an “Ex gay” he’ll probably end up falling for John Paul he’s probably already slept with Garrett
My prediction for this storyline is Goldie will find the truth about Carter. She’ll try to convince John Paul but he won’t listen because Carter manipulated him to believing being gay is wrong and took advantage of his vulnerability Golide will have to turn to Freya, Dillon, Ste and James for help.
David Ames is incredible in this. Fantastic to see a gay actor playing a character that’s 100 miles away from the person he is-the character being a homophobic cult-ish psychopath. It’s brave of him to do. And to think, Adam lambert says an actor can only play a character that’s the same sexual orientation as themselves. What utter tripe! Well done david 🙂
I wasn't sure about Ames initially, but wow, he's really showing what a superb actor he is, as there's zero inclination to think of Dominic Copeland in these scenes. It's a total 180.
If you think about it--who better to play a role driven by villainous insidious homophobia than someone who's probably (sadly) directly experienced it as a victim?
Watching this is heartbreaking 💔 i only see this ending badly for poor JP it’s amazing hollyoakes is bringing awareness even though it’s tough to watch
Well I would love his first love to return Craig but it would have to be a recast so the next best thing would be Spike. Spike was a DJ that he met at Jacqui wedding to Alec fake marriage they hang out and John-Paul asks if he has a girlfriend Spike I'm gay they soon start dating John-Paul forgives Craig for beating him up and sleeps with new boyfriend Spike only for Craig to come knocking John-Paul cheats on Spike and dumped him rather abruptly Spike stayed around and hoped John-Paul would take him back but John-Paul loved Craig and would rather sleep with Craig whilst he was with Sarah then having exclusive relationship with him if Spike returned he could be a friend to John-Paul and maybe John-Paul could fall for him for real
That hugathon was something else. Gareth felt something alright. No wonder John Paul was practically skipping when he left. 😄 Let me stop. Ain't no way in hell this conversion therapy group is going to stay standing. Not when sweetheart John Paul has entered the chat, pulling at all the members' heartstrings. 😍 Whatever happens though, I'm excited!
It still happens- it just isn’t spoken about… I went through it myself for a while in a religious group- videos intended to shame me, being told that I am a sin and need to repent my sexuality and keep praying for it to be taken from me or learn to ignore it and do my duty by becoming a wife and mother even though neither of those things were what I wanted. I was even coerced into dating a man over 10 years my senior… sorry if this triggers anyone but it needs to be said that these things unfortunately do still happen and it should be known. I’m doing much better now- left the religious group altogether now and I’ve learned to fully accept myself for who I am… it needs to be talked about. People need to know it exists and it still happens. I’m from the UK too by the way… so yeah it does happen… even these days sadly…
This is what I thought was going to happen and I’m very much looking forward to it! The one thing I hope though is that they don’t turn JP into a bully, even for a short time because his character has been dragged through the mud enough this last year. I am intrigued by this storyline though! Kind of hoping the end twist is JP saving Carter from himself as I’m assuming he’s a self loathing closeted gay man who’s had abuse in his own past
LB BL OA I’m thinking the exact same thing about John Paul saving Carter from this or maybe James will considering he’s been through this with his Father Mac. I also have a feeling that the writers might turn John Paul into a bully like they did with Ste. But who knows?????
It's incredible JP hasn't done something more drastic by now, considering the way his life has panned out since he was 18/19. Most people could not endure so much trauma. And iirc quite a few Hollyoaks characters have either left the village, self-destructed or topped themselves over less. He must be very resilient and almost delusionally hopeful that things will one day stop being so horrible for him.
Oh my OA I KNEW IT I knew he was homophobic and he wants revenge on John Paul this is sick! This is giving me similar vibes to when Ste was groomed to join that Far Right group Carter is sick in the head if he even thinks for one second that he can change someone’s sexuality. Unless if maybe he’s like this because he doesn’t want revenge on John Paul’s Family maybe he was with a Male and that why his Wife divorced him because their Daughter caught him cheating on his Ex-Wife with a Male and she got full custody of her and they both moved to the village. Maybe if Freya finds out what her Father’s really trying to do to Dillon, john Paul and Lucas then maybe Freya will bring up his Ex-Boyfriend’s name and she’ll try convince him to put a stop to to all of this. I know this is gonna get dragged on and People will start complaining and everything but still that’s the way how soaps go. This is so dumb of Carter I hope he’ll change. 😟🤞🏻
@ChelseyLinden. My comment yesterday on this episode clip was. Maybe just maybe Carter is secretly gay but went through therapy and was converted into believing he's straight and not gay. But he thinks he's going to convert John Paul into being straight. What's next is Carter going to drag Sally into it I hope Tony finds out about this. Because Tony would be angry because his son Harry was gay plus last I check wasn't Hollyoaks village made up of alot of gays and non binary and transgender people. So Carter picked the wrong village to mess with. Does anyone feel that Carter had anything to do with that attack on John Paul
@@a.l.y.a.m.e.d486 OA I did think at first that that homophobic attack was because of Freya but I was wrong maybe it was because of Carter. I think you’re right though maybe Carter is secretly Gay.
we have to remember John Paul is in a very vulnerable spot concerning his sexuality, too. he was recently hatecrimed so of course he’s probably experiencing thoughts of wishing he wasn’t gay. so unfortunate.
There are times, nice as he is, that John Paul really pisses me off - he is a perpetual victim. He seems to want to drop his boxers to any man who has problems and will transfer their problems to him.
jwsm2 I was thinking the same thing about having Craig being brought back to the village and have him remember their love for each other when they were Teenagers.
They really put John Paul threw the wringer everytime. OMG if Craig came back, he sure as hell would get John Paul out of that group. I hope James or Ste can talk some sense into John Paul.
I don't agree with conversation therapy cuss of the horror stories. I believe that if you're religious person then going solo would be a healthy option then this stuff. But that whatever a person chooses that is between them and their own beliefs.
For some, homosexual thoughts are really bad because they can never accept having those haunting thoughts in them. Not everyone needs to come to terms with something that goes against their nature.
No. There is nothing wrong with being gay. It is just a part of who a person is. Carter is wrong and disgusting for doing what he does. John Paul is gay and that's whonhe is and that should be accepted.
Trying to be controversial for the show's ratings because after 28 years the storylines have gotten stale. Watched it for all this time, it started on my birthday 😂 it's definitely time for a new scriptwriter
@@vah1761Although this storyline is probably going to upset gay 🏳️🌈 viewers of Hollyoaks as American Dee commented, it is actually very important for the scriptwriters to tackle such a storyline, as this has always been the show's strong point. Hollyoaks has always been good as tackling important issues and back when Lysette Anthony was still in the show she praised the writers for the awareness the storylines generate. At least it isn't a repeat storyline as I remember when Hannah Ashworth suffered from anorexia and then they repeated the same storyline with Jason Roscoe, Celine McQueen and her sister Cleo, and then with Imran Mallik. It's the same with the amount of heroin addiction storyline they did. Originally Lucy Benson was the only addict the show had and they did the same storyline with Sasha Valentine and her boyfriend Fletch, as well as with Ste Hay and Donna - Marie Quinn. The mental health storyline with Charlie Dean has already been done with Jake Dean, Kathy Barnes, Cindy Cunningham, Newt and Diane Hutchinson. The amount of storylines repeating is getting repetitive so it maybe not so much time for new scriptwriter but maybe time for a better executive producer as Lucy Allen is finally leaving.
The dialogue on this show has become so didactic and stagey, not like anything that everyday people would realistically say. It wasn't this badly-written and hard to believe, even ten years ago.
It's too bad Carter is a "baddie" character. David Ames is a brilliant actor (he was great in Holby CIty), and I would've loved to see him in a long-term role in Hollyoaks. That being said, he's killing it as Carter, because I really hate this character!
So first JP was sexually assaulted by a student, then he got abused and coerced by a police officer, turned to alcohol, lost his career, got attacked, and now he's getting conversion therapy. Poor JP can't catch a break!
EyebrowDimension No one’s ever once caught a break in Salem or the village.
He is the definition of deserves better lol
@@mushkrose6736 Exactly Mushk. 😂
@@mushkrose6736 Hopefully they'll make him happy afterwards! Otherwise, it's just torture. 😅
@@eyebrowdimension I hope he will too for once.
Wow, I genuinely feel chills watching this storyline already! I'm so glad Hollyoaks is exploring this horrible world & I look forward to learning more. I hope Ste is able to rescue his friend, son & Dillon & that Carter gets what he truly deserves.
HiveMistress & Her Guinea Pig Maybe there’s something to this to why Carter’s doing this. Maybe he used to be Gay but then he went to conversion therapy and he still knows deep down that he’s Gay but he’s fighting it.
This storyline with carter is ironic because the actors gay in real life his character is cruel trying to change someone’s orientation when it can’t probably be changed so annoying
can't john paul just have a good storyline for once
ScouserGirl 2015 OA since when has anyone ever gotten a good storyline in Salem or the village????? 😔
I know, they don't give that man a break.
It's like Whitney in eastenders, poor girl hasn't had a break since the character was introduced.
JP has a good storyline to join a group where one can talk about their feeling is a very good thing.
I loved his first Major Storyline accidentally falling in love with his bestmate painfully hiding his love until he confessed which made Craig begin to feel differently about him which led to them eventual having a very passionate fiery on off love affair I preferred his attitude I liked his confidence how he would stick up for himself and his family he took on both Sonny and Justin when they hit his love I also liked him being a DJ and liked when he would hit his punching bag usually when he was mad with Craig I still believe his first ending was his best finally getting to kiss his love in public and leaving together to start a life together he never looked happier.
The tension is hella thick with this storyline already, I’m looking forward to something on this show for the first time in months 😅
I could tell the second Garrett heard JPs story he felt awful and he realised that this manipulation of JP is an act of revenge on Carters part. It makes you wonder.. Is Freya perhaps a lesbian too and her father attempted conversion therapy with her? Her parents seperated over it but once her mother died it resumed under Carters care. Freya falling for Hunter was nothing more than psychological. They could go very dark with this... For now trying to change John Paul so that he will no longer be attacked and as an act of malice is disgusting.
Carter is also likely gay that’s trying to prove you can be an “Ex gay” he’ll probably end up falling for John Paul he’s probably already slept with Garrett
I know who killed Frya mother it was Silce Blissa
Imgent Silce Blissa could meet Carter that would be great
@@ryno1509 OA I was thinking the exact same thing.
My prediction for this storyline is Goldie will find the truth about Carter. She’ll try to convince John Paul but he won’t listen because Carter manipulated him to believing being gay is wrong and took advantage of his vulnerability Golide will have to turn to Freya, Dillon, Ste and James for help.
Ashtonthompson8838 WD hmmm interesting 🤔
The hate crime thing is going to drive him to not want to be gay
I knew they were leading up to a conversion therapy stories I put it together ages ago
David Ames is incredible in this. Fantastic to see a gay actor playing a character that’s 100 miles away from the person he is-the character being a homophobic cult-ish psychopath. It’s brave of him to do. And to think, Adam lambert says an actor can only play a character that’s the same sexual orientation as themselves. What utter tripe! Well done david 🙂
I wasn't sure about Ames initially, but wow, he's really showing what a superb actor he is, as there's zero inclination to think of Dominic Copeland in these scenes. It's a total 180.
If you think about it--who better to play a role driven by villainous insidious homophobia than someone who's probably (sadly) directly experienced it as a victim?
Watching this is heartbreaking 💔 i only see this ending badly for poor JP it’s amazing hollyoakes is bringing awareness even though it’s tough to watch
Why can’t we make John Paul happy for once? Why do they always hurt him? Let’s give him a friend to really help him break the cycle
Well I would love his first love to return Craig but it would have to be a recast so the next best thing would be Spike. Spike was a DJ that he met at Jacqui wedding to Alec fake marriage they hang out and John-Paul asks if he has a girlfriend Spike I'm gay they soon start dating John-Paul forgives Craig for beating him up and sleeps with new boyfriend Spike only for Craig to come knocking John-Paul cheats on Spike and dumped him rather abruptly Spike stayed around and hoped John-Paul would take him back but John-Paul loved Craig and would rather sleep with Craig whilst he was with Sarah then having exclusive relationship with him if Spike returned he could be a friend to John-Paul and maybe John-Paul could fall for him for real
It'd be nice if John Paul and Garrett couldn't resist and had a thing going and Carter got jealous and had to reconsider his entire existence.
Vanessa Millwood OA now that would be impressive!!!!! 😃
YESSSS PLS
@@veritasvanburen_ 😄
That hugathon was something else. Gareth felt something alright. No wonder John Paul was practically skipping when he left. 😄 Let me stop. Ain't no way in hell this conversion therapy group is going to stay standing. Not when sweetheart John Paul has entered the chat, pulling at all the members' heartstrings. 😍 Whatever happens though, I'm excited!
Woah this is getting deep very very quick. No holding back with this storyline huh
I didnt see that coming and i thought JP being in a group where he could talk was a good should have known it was too good to be true.
I knew carter was 😈 Justice for john paul he deserves better storylines He deserves ❤ and happiness
Well he already got his happy ending getting to leave with the man he had loved so deeply for so long
I can't believe this still goes on in this day and age.....
i really don't know how to feel about a conversion therapy storyline in 2023
why?
It still happens- it just isn’t spoken about… I went through it myself for a while in a religious group- videos intended to shame me, being told that I am a sin and need to repent my sexuality and keep praying for it to be taken from me or learn to ignore it and do my duty by becoming a wife and mother even though neither of those things were what I wanted. I was even coerced into dating a man over 10 years my senior… sorry if this triggers anyone but it needs to be said that these things unfortunately do still happen and it should be known. I’m doing much better now- left the religious group altogether now and I’ve learned to fully accept myself for who I am… it needs to be talked about. People need to know it exists and it still happens. I’m from the UK too by the way… so yeah it does happen… even these days sadly…
I've seen Gareth in another short gay movie . Beautiful
This is what I thought was going to happen and I’m very much looking forward to it! The one thing I hope though is that they don’t turn JP into a bully, even for a short time because his character has been dragged through the mud enough this last year. I am intrigued by this storyline though! Kind of hoping the end twist is JP saving Carter from himself as I’m assuming he’s a self loathing closeted gay man who’s had abuse in his own past
LB BL OA I’m thinking the exact same thing about John Paul saving Carter from this or maybe James will considering he’s been through this with his Father Mac. I also have a feeling that the writers might turn John Paul into a bully like they did with Ste. But who knows?????
They gonna groom John Paul Ste and lucas
@@joshwatson6347 OA actually they’re gonna groom Dillon, John Paul and Lucas.
Ye spoilers say it
Saw this coming
It's incredible JP hasn't done something more drastic by now, considering the way his life has panned out since he was 18/19. Most people could not endure so much trauma. And iirc quite a few Hollyoaks characters have either left the village, self-destructed or topped themselves over less. He must be very resilient and almost delusionally hopeful that things will one day stop being so horrible for him.
drama do really pulls rating higher, stale relationship people were not so keen watching it.
Oh my OA I KNEW IT I knew he was homophobic and he wants revenge on John Paul this is sick! This is giving me similar vibes to when Ste was groomed to join that Far Right group Carter is sick in the head if he even thinks for one second that he can change someone’s sexuality. Unless if maybe he’s like this because he doesn’t want revenge on John Paul’s Family maybe he was with a Male and that why his Wife divorced him because their Daughter caught him cheating on his Ex-Wife with a Male and she got full custody of her and they both moved to the village. Maybe if Freya finds out what her Father’s really trying to do to Dillon, john Paul and Lucas then maybe Freya will bring up his Ex-Boyfriend’s name and she’ll try convince him to put a stop to to all of this. I know this is gonna get dragged on and People will start complaining and everything but still that’s the way how soaps go. This is so dumb of Carter I hope he’ll change. 😟🤞🏻
This horrible situation, of Carter's agenda, plans John Paul back into Straight person. That anonymous and ridiculous
@ChelseyLinden. My comment yesterday on this episode clip was. Maybe just maybe Carter is secretly gay but went through therapy and was converted into believing he's straight and not gay. But he thinks he's going to convert John Paul into being straight. What's next is Carter going to drag Sally into it I hope Tony finds out about this. Because Tony would be angry because his son Harry was gay plus last I check wasn't Hollyoaks village made up of alot of gays and non binary and transgender people. So Carter picked the wrong village to mess with. Does anyone feel that Carter had anything to do with that attack on John Paul
@@a.l.y.a.m.e.d486 OA I did think at first that that homophobic attack was because of Freya but I was wrong maybe it was because of Carter. I think you’re right though maybe Carter is secretly Gay.
we have to remember John Paul is in a very vulnerable spot concerning his sexuality, too. he was recently hatecrimed so of course he’s probably experiencing thoughts of wishing he wasn’t gay. so unfortunate.
@@s0urpatchkiddo OA I hope he won’t. 😟🤞🏻
There are times, nice as he is, that John Paul really pisses me off - he is a perpetual victim. He seems to want to drop his boxers to any man who has problems and will transfer their problems to him.
Poor John Paul can't catch a break this conversion story is bs.Bring Craig back to Hollyoaks and have them together again.
jwsm2 I was thinking the same thing about having Craig being brought back to the village and have him remember their love for each other when they were Teenagers.
They really put John Paul threw the wringer everytime. OMG if Craig came back, he sure as hell would get John Paul out of that group. I hope James or Ste can talk some sense into John Paul.
@@a.l.y.a.m.e.d486 OA or maybe Freya and James can talk some sense into Carter Aly.
@@ChelseyLinden I'm hoping Freya will be help I also hope she's not homophobic.
its conversion therapy
Mikey Birchall I hope Goldie will turn to Freya for help with this when she finds out what Carter’s really doing. What do you think?????
I'm sure I've seen this somewhere before 🤔🤗
K W OA they reuploaded it from yesterday and posted it today K W. 😒
@@ChelseyLindendid you miss the joke Chelsey? 🫣
@@KW-ro5ow OA sorry I couldn’t tell if it was a joke K W. 🫢
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What’s this storyline about
It's a conversion therapy storyline......
@@beccacostelloe04so a homophobic storyline
@@scarletyoung6053pretty much!!! 😕
Is he recording him ....😢
I don't agree with conversation therapy cuss of the horror stories. I believe that if you're religious person then going solo would be a healthy option then this stuff. But that whatever a person chooses that is between them and their own beliefs.
I can tell its gonna be another far right storyline
John Paul is going clear with L Ron Hubbard (Carter).
Carter has a bit of a Demon Headmaster vibe when his intentions come to life
Who was the “abusive relationship” with?
Ohhhh he's one of them is he?
Lovely can't hollyoaks high ever have a good head teacher first lorie now thus guy
I love watching hollyoaks xx
About time we get a new villain in the village.
Why did Garrett feel guilty? What did he do?
Carter is so cool!
I can't wait for John Paul VS the cult.
John Paul can never catch a break
For some, homosexual thoughts are really bad because they can never accept having those haunting thoughts in them. Not everyone needs to come to terms with something that goes against their nature.
Omg! No way an anti gay group, that’s so wrong
W carter purify this village😊
No. There is nothing wrong with being gay. It is just a part of who a person is. Carter is wrong and disgusting for doing what he does. John Paul is gay and that's whonhe is and that should be accepted.
Great conversion therapy...being hugged by 20 men all at the same time...sounds more like heaven to me.
Not gay conversation! This is going to hurt way too many people. Wtf are the writers doing?
Trying to be controversial for the show's ratings because after 28 years the storylines have gotten stale. Watched it for all this time, it started on my birthday 😂 it's definitely time for a new scriptwriter
@@vah1761Although this storyline is probably going to upset gay 🏳️🌈 viewers of Hollyoaks as American Dee commented, it is actually very important for the scriptwriters to tackle such a storyline, as this has always been the show's strong point. Hollyoaks has always been good as tackling important issues and back when Lysette Anthony was still in the show she praised the writers for the awareness the storylines generate. At least it isn't a repeat storyline as I remember when Hannah Ashworth suffered from anorexia and then they repeated the same storyline with Jason Roscoe, Celine McQueen and her sister Cleo, and then with Imran Mallik. It's the same with the amount of heroin addiction storyline they did. Originally Lucy Benson was the only addict the show had and they did the same storyline with Sasha Valentine and her boyfriend Fletch, as well as with Ste Hay and Donna - Marie Quinn. The mental health storyline with Charlie Dean has already been done with Jake Dean, Kathy Barnes, Cindy Cunningham, Newt and Diane Hutchinson. The amount of storylines repeating is getting repetitive so it maybe not so much time for new scriptwriter but maybe time for a better executive producer as Lucy Allen is finally leaving.
um...those kinda groups, with the men all hugging on each other, ..do not happen.
The dialogue on this show has become so didactic and stagey, not like anything that everyday people would realistically say. It wasn't this badly-written and hard to believe, even ten years ago.
It's too bad Carter is a "baddie" character. David Ames is a brilliant actor (he was great in Holby CIty), and I would've loved to see him in a long-term role in Hollyoaks. That being said, he's killing it as Carter, because I really hate this character!
I believe Carter is a gay cult leader.
Yes you are right Carter is gay in real life
Hopefully Carter and his group can help JP.
You're kidding, right?
It's a support group, right?@@zanthus7
What, help him force himself to be straight when he's not!!!! Are you for real 🙄🙄🙄
Ryan Je OA ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! This group is for something that can turn him from being Gay to Straight! Are you homophobic????? 🤨
For real, let's be honest. Being Gay is incredibly wrong.
Seriously who decided jp was the trauma and punching bag of hollyoaks
This storyline is crap he's GAY give him a break NOT this for his own mental health and viewers also
2:42 WD he needs to stand up for himself!#Hollyoaks #All4 🙄
upcoming storyline with for Dillon Ray and Lucas Hay. And Carter to manipulate Lucas.
Remove Your lmpure Thoughts Hollyoaks: James- & Ste
JP needs to go
Imgent Warren Fox could meet Carter that would be great
Carter is evil
Woiieee Why'd Gareth's voice have to be so heavy though? Sir, stop. 😳🌶️🔥🪭
The guy who played dominic from holby is so creepy narcissistic and self righteous
Remove Your lmpure Thoughts Hollyoaks: James- & Ste
Remove Your lmpure Thoughts Hollyoaks: James- & Ste