First of all. 1. What was wrong with the BMAH? 2. New Talent system gives MORE choice. ALL of the old talent trees had cookie cutter builds. This does too, but most classes have 1, 2 or 3 tiers which are optional. 3. Wargames are welcome, nothing wrong with them. 4. Pandaren are good, I don't see any problems with them being in.
***** "MoP is by far the worst expansion yet if we go by sales and subscriptions." If you do that, you're an imbecile. The gameplay in MoP other than dailies was fun.There was so much stuff to do compared to other expansions. In WoD I'm bored out of my mind. In MoP, 5 Months in, there was already a big patch (5.1) with content, and 5.2 was on the horizon in the next couple of weeks.
During a blog they showed some art of the character Chen stormstout. Who was in Warcraft 3 and vanilla. People loved the look of a panda race. And blizzard decided to do it...
Also wrath forced people to do dailies aswell with locking the best enchants behind rep. Also wargames was more for PvP guilds to practice or do 3erd party tournaments... Dude no wonder he vanished. Bad danger dolen rip off
Tom MacJarrett yeah if you wanted to be a raider you had to do dailies allmost every expac :P as everyu expansion dalies has given something super important (except warlords, till we got tanana, cause that infanite runestone is super legit)
Michael Reed Just think about this...They made an ENTIRE expansion, based off of a side character in a bonus campaign in Warcraft 3. Why do you think people give little to no shit about them?
What about the good things about Mists of Pandaria? :P I see a lot of people talking about the bad things, but in my opinion MoP brought some good changes to WoW. We don't notice the positive aspects when we play, but compared to Cata for example, MoP is a much "cleaner" version. (with things such as the removal of useless spells etc) I think the talent tree was a good idea, although there was almost always a talent that stood out over the others. I think that where MoP messed up is with pvp power / resilience. I just don't understand why they had to give everybody a base 75% pvp resilience, instead of just balancing PvP/PvP damage. (which is probably easier said than done) As for the war games, I don't think we can complain about it, as it's an addition to the game, and can only be benificial (although few were the people that took advantage of that feature)
honestly I hated how forced lfr felt at the beginning of the xpac. even through most of throne of thunder. sure you could gain the said quest line items in normal and heroic, but lfr was a way to make sure you did all the bosses and got the most chances at gaining your sigil/secret/runestone. inb4 "lfr wasn't forced." my raid lead would ask people if they had done their lfrs for the week. it was a guild rule to atleast do your dailies for bonus rolls and do you lfrs based on how many things you could get to advance your character and your raid team.
Even though I enjoyed the quest line The daily pvp quest line and pretty much any other area they made this expansion they killed off with each spot with each patch adding a new place. That is what I hate wish they would just update those zones to acquire new stuff like gear and what not.
I'd say..... the dailies were the absolute worst part of the game for me. Once was plenty but, as you said, because it was the only real way to gain rep at the time I began to hate it. Everything else, though. I honestly thought the Pandas were made of pure badass. I'll never understand the Pandaren hate when we have wolves, cows, and even space goats! To me, it comes off as contradictory. The atmosphere and zones I really had no problem with, before this expansion was even released the developers said it was meant to be a break expansion before getting back into the serious story, so I think the whole continent, as well as the full experience reflected it really well.
I liked pandaren! I think their lore and themes were refreshingly different from the other races, like something really new was finally being added to the setting instead of the same old stuff being rehashed. I think a lot of the people who don't like them are the type of people who don't like anything that's cute or goofy or cartoonish in WoW, because they want to be cool badasses and having giant pandas walking around spoils it for them. Well, you got your expansion filled with massively muscled orcs tearing off their own body parts, covering everything with spikes and shouting about who's going to wreck who how hard for the sake of honor or vengeance or pride or whatever. How do you feel about that now? You need both ends of the spectrum, they balance each other out and provide a contrast that stops things becoming bland and samey. In any big multiplayer game especially, you can never have things really be serious or realistic, because the players will be running around ruining that with their shenanigans anyway. You have to embrace at least a bit of the silly stupidity, and take control of it.
DH Zones...REALLY wtf it had some very good zones, pet battles......really another great feature that took some boredom out of just grinding, BMAH this brought back some awesome items you can no longer gets, new talent tree most people who say that are people who have NO idea how to work the new talent tree or be versatile with it where u change a spec 3-6 times in a raid to give you a tactical advantage those a rose tinted glasses that people like everyone having the same talent tree 99% of the time was so much better if you have no fuckin brain.. 5 Scenarios was great...think they should have been a attunement honestly for the raids. 4 Pandaren race....really a class blizzard stated that thought about being in BC but could not work them in also they was in WC3 people who voted this are stupid. 3 PvP .....well this isn't any worse than WoD atm. 2. Daily Quest....eh they were ok lil too many but it could have been better 1 it was a stupid system.
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So players complain how dungeon finder is to easy and miss spaming trade chat looking for other players. but then now u complain how they did the opposite but with PvP in wargames.
wait you needet 12 seconds to kill them with a hunter. idk if this should be bad or good for MOP however nowdays in wod mages just junk down hp from 100-0 in under 6-10 seconds and this feels pretty retarded to me because they frostnova/deepfreeze you and your pretty much dead
I never understood the hate for the Pandaren. Back in WC3 I would love getting the Brewmaster as a hero and wanted to know more about the race.
First of all.
1. What was wrong with the BMAH?
2. New Talent system gives MORE choice. ALL of the old talent trees had cookie cutter builds. This does too, but most classes have 1, 2 or 3 tiers which are optional.
3. Wargames are welcome, nothing wrong with them.
4. Pandaren are good, I don't see any problems with them being in.
***** "MoP is by far the worst expansion yet if we go by sales and subscriptions."
If you do that, you're an imbecile. The gameplay in MoP other than dailies was fun.There was so much stuff to do compared to other expansions. In WoD I'm bored out of my mind. In MoP, 5 Months in, there was already a big patch (5.1) with content, and 5.2 was on the horizon in the next couple of weeks.
During a blog they showed some art of the character Chen stormstout. Who was in Warcraft 3 and vanilla. People loved the look of a panda race. And blizzard decided to do it...
Also wrath forced people to do dailies aswell with locking the best enchants behind rep. Also wargames was more for PvP guilds to practice or do 3erd party tournaments... Dude no wonder he vanished. Bad danger dolen rip off
Tom MacJarrett
You did if You were a raider worth your salt.
Tom MacJarrett yeah if you wanted to be a raider you had to do dailies allmost every expac :P as everyu expansion dalies has given something super important (except warlords, till we got tanana, cause that infanite runestone is super legit)
Number 4 hurts me... I love my panda den
every says that pandas should not be in warcraft but mant dont relise pandas have been in WoW lore since before many other races
We know, we don't care, they're awful...
Gabriel Gonçalves They're an easter egg, silly. BTW, loved MoP, but the panda starting zone was stupid (especially that horde one, oh gawd).
Michael Reed Just think about this...They made an ENTIRE expansion, based off of a side character in a bonus campaign in Warcraft 3. Why do you think people give little to no shit about them?
Vdogg2496 They were actually the April Fools joke in 2000, but everyone liked it
MissourHanzai Were they in one of the Blizzard games before WC3?
It's not that they were pandas. It's that they were overly animated and goofy.
ddosing and wintrading has always been around, but the balance issues were indeed ridiculous at the start of mop
Yeah they were around in Cata but still VERY present in MoP that I couldn't disinclude them
At least MoP had an endgame... *Cough**Cough* WoD...
after WoD almost all of these can be forgiven.
agree with you mate. exept the dailies.
+John Håvard Valebrokk how else do you want to get rep? grinding dungeons and mobs?
Sean Gannon dungeons with a bonus in the end
Says to bring skirmishes/war games and attunements/story stuff back in best features removed in earlier video, says the opposite here. Nice one mate
Yep says they want change then they say it sucks and go back to playing the 59th cod game same as he first .assholes for ya :D
meh people didn't like it but I found the zones to be a lot more colourful and interesting to be in than draenor
What about the good things about Mists of Pandaria? :P
I see a lot of people talking about the bad things, but in my opinion MoP brought some good changes to WoW.
We don't notice the positive aspects when we play, but compared to Cata for example, MoP is a much "cleaner" version. (with things such as the removal of useless spells etc)
I think the talent tree was a good idea, although there was almost always a talent that stood out over the others.
I think that where MoP messed up is with pvp power / resilience. I just don't understand why they had to give everybody a base 75% pvp resilience, instead of just balancing PvP/PvP damage. (which is probably easier said than done)
As for the war games, I don't think we can complain about it, as it's an addition to the game, and can only be benificial (although few were the people that took advantage of that feature)
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Indeed I had not seen it ;)
I Agree with all but Pandas kick ass and i know many wanted since vanilla wow.
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honestly I hated how forced lfr felt at the beginning of the xpac. even through most of throne of thunder. sure you could gain the said quest line items in normal and heroic, but lfr was a way to make sure you did all the bosses and got the most chances at gaining your sigil/secret/runestone. inb4 "lfr wasn't forced." my raid lead would ask people if they had done their lfrs for the week. it was a guild rule to atleast do your dailies for bonus rolls and do you lfrs based on how many things you could get to advance your character and your raid team.
Qq, c,
Even though I enjoyed the quest line The daily pvp quest line and pretty much any other area they made this expansion they killed off with each spot with each patch adding a new place. That is what I hate wish they would just update those zones to acquire new stuff like gear and what not.
I'd say..... the dailies were the absolute worst part of the game for me. Once was plenty but, as you said, because it was the only real way to gain rep at the time I began to hate it.
Everything else, though. I honestly thought the Pandas were made of pure badass. I'll never understand the Pandaren hate when we have wolves, cows, and even space goats! To me, it comes off as contradictory.
The atmosphere and zones I really had no problem with, before this expansion was even released the developers said it was meant to be a break expansion before getting back into the serious story, so I think the whole continent, as well as the full experience reflected it really well.
Maze4D
Also, the pandaren lifestyle of sleeping, drinking, and eating was awesome
Dailies have always been a way to get rep.. That's not a mop thing, it's a wow thing
I liked pandaren! I think their lore and themes were refreshingly different from the other races, like something really new was finally being added to the setting instead of the same old stuff being rehashed. I think a lot of the people who don't like them are the type of people who don't like anything that's cute or goofy or cartoonish in WoW, because they want to be cool badasses and having giant pandas walking around spoils it for them.
Well, you got your expansion filled with massively muscled orcs tearing off their own body parts, covering everything with spikes and shouting about who's going to wreck who how hard for the sake of honor or vengeance or pride or whatever. How do you feel about that now?
You need both ends of the spectrum, they balance each other out and provide a contrast that stops things becoming bland and samey. In any big multiplayer game especially, you can never have things really be serious or realistic, because the players will be running around ruining that with their shenanigans anyway. You have to embrace at least a bit of the silly stupidity, and take control of it.
Pandas ruined wow. Mop worst expac
I laughed throughout this entire video
I like old wow instead of mop and ect
our guild (organized chaos ) likes to use wargames we grooup up in a 5v5 and then we do 1v1s somtimes for prices.
DH Zones...REALLY wtf it had some very good zones, pet battles......really another great feature that took some boredom out of just grinding, BMAH this brought back some awesome items you can no longer gets, new talent tree most people who say that are people who have NO idea how to work the new talent tree or be versatile with it where u change a spec 3-6 times in a raid to give you a tactical advantage those a rose tinted glasses that people like everyone having the same talent tree 99% of the time was so much better if you have no fuckin brain..
5 Scenarios was great...think they should have been a attunement honestly for the raids.
4 Pandaren race....really a class blizzard stated that thought about being in BC but could not work them in also they was in WC3 people who voted this are stupid.
3 PvP .....well this isn't any worse than WoD atm.
2. Daily Quest....eh they were ok lil too many but it could have been better
1 it was a stupid system.
the only thing i liked about MoP was pet battles.... sure its a pokemon rip-off but still....
Yes, there are alot of things bad about MoP, but it was a great x-pac!
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the only bad thing about pandarens is the starting zone imo
So players complain how dungeon finder is to easy and miss spaming trade chat looking for other players. but then now u complain how they did the opposite but with PvP in wargames.
ye thinking of MOP leaves a realy bad taste in my mouth,like i smoked a pack and went to bed without washing my teeth
Pvp in mop was god awful, such a mess.
the only thing that pissed me off was the new talent tree yes goodbye customisation
there was no customization back then, 1% crit and stuff is not a choice because everyone else took that too
Agreed, before the change it was," have this spec, or you suck." Where's the customization there?
people just miss to click on something on every level up
i laughed this entire video from the moment you put MoP zones in dishonorable mentions...
wargame is nice ! its like a double duel with a friend vs 2 other friends ! its really nice idea and i lilke it
Quite supprised about nr 1. I've several friends who tend to group up and do wargames.
Based on the votes, it came in at #1 and by a long shot too
i actually liked Mist apart from Seige of Orgrimmar
Weren't wargames around in cata...? 3 years late to the party but...like?
PvP wasnt bad with classes... its was the cc. it ruined the game and im glad blizz is removing these (stares at warlock)
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I'm happy that this dd clone stopped with yt
top ranked arena players use war games allot
wait you needet 12 seconds to kill them with a hunter. idk if this should be bad or good for MOP however nowdays in wod mages just junk down hp from 100-0 in under 6-10 seconds and this feels pretty retarded to me because they frostnova/deepfreeze you and your pretty much dead
Only time i honestly used wargames was 2 play against ppl i didn't like :|
did he die?
XD I meant pandaren
5 mans... horrible!
tbh pvp is shit so it dossent realy matter
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