Thank you for making these videos, nobody that casually plays has time to figure this crap out and this is extremely helpful. Please just keep knocking out these short to the point videos of what you test with the results, it is amazing content.
You are, as for now, providing the best content for star citizen. It´s not for nothing, that you´ve reached more then 11k subscribers by now. keep it up, love your work!
Hey Foxy, I got mugged at Brios while trying to sell weevil eggs (lucky I decided to do it in small batches). Returned in my Eclipse and popped a Connie Andro. Guy was totally unaware he had an S9 torpedo incoming. For some reason I decided to loiter above Brios, so when he returned in a Gladius (he had a crimestat for shooting me in the back twice) I got him a second time with another S9. Stealth torpedoing is back in the game!
I think it would be interesting to see a Retalliator beeing "stealthy". I know it's a big ship but if it's signature can be lower than the torpedo locking range.... it could be interesting.
@@TheFiendish138 I used to run a Tally with full Stealth A in previous patches, but prefer Mil A for the durability of taking occasional hits during an ERT. In the current patch 3.23 a Tally can approach to 10km before NPCs react, and certain ships have their detection range restored, so you detect and fire torps at Hercules and Carracks at 30km. 15km for Hammerheads and the 890 Jump (which I find weird as it’s such a late ship with its EM/IR signature) and within 10km for the Redeemer.
Always use best server.... even then it's still 5 minutes. If the last couple of years haven't been obvious..... only streamers and UA-camrs get their own personal dedicated server that's super stable. The rest of us useless cash paying players get the scraps.
It was pretty bad the first 3 days of the live patch, but I've been getting gradually better performance since then. I can get 30-45 min play sessions in.
I'm pretty thrilled about this. It's caused me to pull my once beloved Sabre out of mothballs and take her out for bounties again. Even with two powerplants I wasn't detected until a second or two before I got guns on target, and by then I was WELL too close for them to use missiles at all. I thought it was a fluke so I did a few more missions and same thing. Then I took my Military A ranked MKII F7A out and did more bounties, I was detected from way, WAY farther out and of course had missiles flung at me. Absolutely love there's a reason to take the Sabre out again. Also love the idea of unequipping one powerplant. It'll work great until engineering comes online, then it may be a better idea to keep both powerplants in case one is disabled or destroyed.
Did you mean to end the video there? :D Its good to see some components really making a difference and stealth is finally becoming a thing... and a powerful thing at that!!
Last time stealth was an option I had a 100i and I found it worked very well slipping past players. Of course back then you could fly past at 1km/s and shoot people.
There’s no point flying an Eclipse within 5km of a target, as that’s the minimum range of the S9 torpedoes. I bought a lot of components before the last AUEC wipe, so I run Stealth A with my Eclipse, Pisces C8R/C8X, M50 and Razer EX (my Talon, Sabre n Ghost didn’t survive the wipe) Basically, when I don’t want to be detected. Oh I love the white BIS paint, had a friend loan me the paint once, now I run meridian
For those who are confused: When he says "stealth reduction" he means "emissions reduction" which is a stealth *buff.* And for "stealth addition" he means "emissions increase" which is a stealth *nerf.*
I'd find it kinda funny/interesting to see how a Nomad performs as a stealth ship Could run it as a smuggler/blockade runner to resup friendlies during Jumptown-like situations
Do you know if cross section is picked up passively in SC? Obviously, IR and EM should be passively picked up, but CS should be detected only with an active radar ping. I just don’t know what they have coded right now.
please can you do an "unofficial" stealth ship on all the medium sized multi-role (pirate friendly) ships pretty please! I'm trying to find the perfect ship that can sneak in, pack a punch and then grab all the loot and scurry away :)
we need a sabre raven type ship available to get. it’s dumb that the only EMP version of the sabre is restricted to a freebie given away with optane drives from forever ago lol
Yeah, Intel doesn't care about that at all. The promo is way over, so intel could just allow CiG to release it for everyone. Especially since you can't buy Optanes with Sabres anymore, at least officially. It wouldn't hurt Intel at all. But yeah as said. They just don't care and CiG doesn't want to break the contract with Intel.
most limiting factor of both those ships are gonna be the Cross sections, the C1 and A1 head on is about 5k but about 24k ish on side and top profiles, so unless you plan to cut a ton of your components (and purchase stealth ones for the core minimum) for a head on ordenance strike, it's really not worth it, as anyone slightly off head on of either ship will see you from a very long distance away
infact i just checked and 5.8k is the minimum you can really get, and that's only when facing directly head on with only missiles/bombs, and stealth QD, PP & Cooling
Ya, it didn't make sense for a starter ship like the Mustang to have a stealth bonus. I really like stealth gameplay, but don't want to give up stuff like cargo and a bed. So I'll probably see how stealthy I can make my Avenger Titan. I am curious about the upcoming Crusader Intrepid. I am sure it'll be worse, but how worse.
Personally I believe the Periguin should be stealthy, maybe not full stealth. But its chassis is a stealth one, so it should get a little stealth. (Maybe the -20 the firebird had origonally.)
@@FalconDS9 so you don't think party markers work. Or maybe the ability to turn off stealth mode. Or how about the fact that the advertisement for it hints that it is stealthy. You dont activate stealth because you don't want allys to see you, stealth of for those who are not so friendly. If they didn't want this to be stealthy, then why did they choose a chasis known for stealth?
I get it some stealth ships are meaningful. Like eclipse/firebird have nuke ability, or prowler stealthy troop dropping, or even razor that serves as a premium escape pod. But what's the meaning of stealth dogfighters? You gain no advantage being stealth, you need those guns, shields and coolers. (Raven included. Its emp don't do significant dmg and itself can't really dogfight)
there are great advantage with stealth ships, in PvE, in this video it showed so many time, you can use your guns in stealth range while your enemy will not be able to see you. in PvP, usually the first one shot will gain the advantage.
@@cpt_foxyloxy I get your idea, but dogfighters need dogfight, right? You'll often need to power off a lot things like shield to be undetectable at ~2km. But only few guns that fits on a fighter can actually snipe. So my point is, stealth is rather ineffective if you end up fighting close(raven and dogfighters), its strength lies in range and burst damage.
Yes, but for Cross Section, there are three values and it depends on the angle you face your enemy, so here is a video for understanding Cross Section:ua-cam.com/video/-RVwb8xofgw/v-deo.html
Sure the Eclipse is the stealth bomber, but what if I wanted to multiply it by 3? How would a stealth Tali do? Edit: Played with it in SP viewer. Kinda lame, gets limited by cross section at 4700, but that should be good enough for mid range torp throwing.
well.. there is no button to dissable a power plant with the new MFDs.. maybe when the full engineering system is in the game, the resource management MFD is currently not even active.
The rocket kills have nothing to do with the stealth. Rockets are currently broken many times and cant be defended. NPCS even dont react to them. As soon as you lock a player he will get a notification that someone has locked in and he will be aware of you.
The prowler had a bit of a work over a couple of patches ago. It flies like a heavy fighter now and packs a decent punch. Its back to being a good ship
could be realy easy.. the moment a stealth ship starts shooting, its signature shout skyrocket. but thats currently not happening. firing a weapon changes nothing and thats clearly not the final state.
@@GW2Vids1 ya.. and not every older player got the time to watch a video thats longer then 10mins. we just want the information with the least amount of chitchat as possible. or we want a short brake and watch something funny.. before going back to being an adult...
@@FalconDS9 Did you watch it until the end? It breaks suddenly so I asked him if he can only make 15min videos because his account is probably not verified.
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Thank you for making these videos, nobody that casually plays has time to figure this crap out and this is extremely helpful. Please just keep knocking out these short to the point videos of what you test with the results, it is amazing content.
Thank you!
You are, as for now, providing the best content for star citizen. It´s not for nothing, that you´ve reached more then 11k subscribers by now. keep it up, love your work!
Thank you so much!
Hey Foxy, I got mugged at Brios while trying to sell weevil eggs (lucky I decided to do it in small batches). Returned in my Eclipse and popped a Connie Andro. Guy was totally unaware he had an S9 torpedo incoming.
For some reason I decided to loiter above Brios, so when he returned in a Gladius (he had a crimestat for shooting me in the back twice) I got him a second time with another S9.
Stealth torpedoing is back in the game!
Awesome to know! Good job defending
I love my prowler. Hope it makes the next video!
I think it would be interesting to see a Retalliator beeing "stealthy". I know it's a big ship but if it's signature can be lower than the torpedo locking range.... it could be interesting.
You can do it with freelancer mis it can goes 5km distance and launch 15km, nice ship for pirate to kill big ships parts now (u can aim parts :P)
That would be fun
@@TheFiendish138 I used to run a Tally with full Stealth A in previous patches, but prefer Mil A for the durability of taking occasional hits during an ERT. In the current patch 3.23 a Tally can approach to 10km before NPCs react, and certain ships have their detection range restored, so you detect and fire torps at Hercules and Carracks at 30km. 15km for Hammerheads and the 890 Jump (which I find weird as it’s such a late ship with its EM/IR signature) and within 10km for the Redeemer.
My Ships for the unofficial Stealth ship list: Stealth 135i, Stealth Nomad, Stealth Cutter, Stealth Vulture, Stealth Prospector. Thank you
Noted, thx!
Really love your videos, bud just sound such a happy person. Instantly smile when I watch
How are you even playing. I can't stay on a stable server for more than 5 minutes
Same
Don't choose us server try other
Always use best server.... even then it's still 5 minutes. If the last couple of years haven't been obvious..... only streamers and UA-camrs get their own personal dedicated server that's super stable. The rest of us useless cash paying players get the scraps.
@cs4mo how about tricking them into thinking that you're a youtuber
It was pretty bad the first 3 days of the live patch, but I've been getting gradually better performance since then. I can get 30-45 min play sessions in.
I'm pretty thrilled about this. It's caused me to pull my once beloved Sabre out of mothballs and take her out for bounties again. Even with two powerplants I wasn't detected until a second or two before I got guns on target, and by then I was WELL too close for them to use missiles at all. I thought it was a fluke so I did a few more missions and same thing. Then I took my Military A ranked MKII F7A out and did more bounties, I was detected from way, WAY farther out and of course had missiles flung at me.
Absolutely love there's a reason to take the Sabre out again.
Also love the idea of unequipping one powerplant. It'll work great until engineering comes online, then it may be a better idea to keep both powerplants in case one is disabled or destroyed.
Glad you are having fun with these stealth ships, yeah when engineering comes, thing will definitely change again.
I'm really enjoying this Stealth route you've been taking us on. Very interesting!
I'm very happy your channel is growing citizen it's well deserved. o7
Thank you very much!
Did you mean to end the video there? :D Its good to see some components really making a difference and stealth is finally becoming a thing... and a powerful thing at that!!
Sooo...I own a Razor EX.. but... I stealth'd a Vutlure..
why? to avoid detection while salvaging :)
Also a Titan Avenger just because
That's actually a good idea, as the Vulture just doesn't have much to defend itself with.
How much lower did you get your signature?
Great info, keep it coming 🤘
Last time stealth was an option I had a 100i and I found it worked very well slipping past players. Of course back then you could fly past at 1km/s and shoot people.
Great videos, we need to find the best stealth cargo ship now. 135c might be a good candidate.
There’s no point flying an Eclipse within 5km of a target, as that’s the minimum range of the S9 torpedoes.
I bought a lot of components before the last AUEC wipe, so I run Stealth A with my Eclipse, Pisces C8R/C8X, M50 and Razer EX (my Talon, Sabre n Ghost didn’t survive the wipe) Basically, when I don’t want to be detected.
Oh I love the white BIS paint, had a friend loan me the paint once, now I run meridian
100%
For those who are confused: When he says "stealth reduction" he means "emissions reduction" which is a stealth *buff.*
And for "stealth addition" he means "emissions increase" which is a stealth *nerf.*
I'd find it kinda funny/interesting to see how a Nomad performs as a stealth ship
Could run it as a smuggler/blockade runner to resup friendlies during Jumptown-like situations
Will do
Cutlass blue I think would be a good choice for a stealth capability of a non-stealth ship
Will check that out
Do you know if cross section is picked up passively in SC? Obviously, IR and EM should be passively picked up, but CS should be detected only with an active radar ping. I just don’t know what they have coded right now.
That is definitely worth a video to test out, thx for the suggestion.
please can you do an "unofficial" stealth ship on all the medium sized multi-role (pirate friendly) ships pretty please! I'm trying to find the perfect ship that can sneak in, pack a punch and then grab all the loot and scurry away :)
Will do
We are gonna need so many terrapins surrounding fleets scanning for these stealth ships
Going to need the Terrapins scanning ingame first..
Or just one Polaris with size 4 radar wahahahaa
@@SpaceDad42 i gues thats just a 100% radar? so stealth still works.. its not like it would magically add signature to the targets...
Could you check out the stealth on the 400i? I know its meant to have a smaller cross section than ships for its size
Challenge for you Foxy. Can you emp a ship without it even knowing your there ?
Thanks for the great content :)
That would be awesome. How near can a Raven go?
Good question, let's find out soon
The Razor EX is insane. With stuff turned off the EM Range is just 579 !!
Yeah, but it is also restricted by the minimum cross section
thanks for the video, at least I realise I'm not into firebird gameplay
Ship signatures are important.
But what about radar/scout ships?
Do they have better detection range than a hammerhead?
Active or passive?
Is overheating not a thing right now? In the last patch, if my cooler capacity didn't meet my power output, my IR would skyrocket.
only half of the power management system is online right now.. coolers and life support are not doing anything for the moment.
MY SABRE!
awesome work, stealth arrow maybe?
Got it
Would love if you could test the 2 talons
Try the Nomad, becomes a steslth drop ship for a ROC, Cyclone, or similar or smaller vehicle.
Good idea
First!
I love stealth ships
My name in game is Stealth_Equinox
Can’t wait to sneak up on people with my Eclipse and boop some snoots
we need a sabre raven type ship available to get. it’s dumb that the only EMP version of the sabre is restricted to a freebie given away with optane drives from forever ago lol
Yeah, Intel doesn't care about that at all. The promo is way over, so intel could just allow CiG to release it for everyone. Especially since you can't buy Optanes with Sabres anymore, at least officially. It wouldn't hurt Intel at all. But yeah as said. They just don't care and CiG doesn't want to break the contract with Intel.
Big question. Can you make a stealth spirit a1 bomber and/or is there any use for a stealth c1?
most limiting factor of both those ships are gonna be the Cross sections, the C1 and A1 head on is about 5k but about 24k ish on side and top profiles, so unless you plan to cut a ton of your components (and purchase stealth ones for the core minimum) for a head on ordenance strike, it's really not worth it, as anyone slightly off head on of either ship will see you from a very long distance away
infact i just checked and 5.8k is the minimum you can really get, and that's only when facing directly head on with only missiles/bombs, and stealth QD, PP & Cooling
Stealth Defender please. Would be great
Ya, it didn't make sense for a starter ship like the Mustang to have a stealth bonus. I really like stealth gameplay, but don't want to give up stuff like cargo and a bed. So I'll probably see how stealthy I can make my Avenger Titan. I am curious about the upcoming Crusader Intrepid. I am sure it'll be worse, but how worse.
Vanguard Sentinel. Only variant that has neutral stealth modifiers.
Personally I believe the Periguin should be stealthy, maybe not full stealth. But its chassis is a stealth one, so it should get a little stealth. (Maybe the -20 the firebird had origonally.)
thats the racer, isnt it? i think you want to be seen as a racer, how could the race track tell your position otherwise?
@@FalconDS9 so you don't think party markers work. Or maybe the ability to turn off stealth mode.
Or how about the fact that the advertisement for it hints that it is stealthy.
You dont activate stealth because you don't want allys to see you, stealth of for those who are not so friendly. If they didn't want this to be stealthy, then why did they choose a chasis known for stealth?
I get it some stealth ships are meaningful. Like eclipse/firebird have nuke ability, or prowler stealthy troop dropping, or even razor that serves as a premium escape pod. But what's the meaning of stealth dogfighters? You gain no advantage being stealth, you need those guns, shields and coolers. (Raven included. Its emp don't do significant dmg and itself can't really dogfight)
there are great advantage with stealth ships, in PvE, in this video it showed so many time, you can use your guns in stealth range while your enemy will not be able to see you. in PvP, usually the first one shot will gain the advantage.
@@cpt_foxyloxy I get your idea, but dogfighters need dogfight, right? You'll often need to power off a lot things like shield to be undetectable at ~2km. But only few guns that fits on a fighter can actually snipe.
So my point is, stealth is rather ineffective if you end up fighting close(raven and dogfighters), its strength lies in range and burst damage.
@@cpt_foxyloxyyes. And take 50 years to do so with lower power and generally worse armaments than proper fighter.
I am new to stealth gameplay, just to clarify, your detection range is basically the highest of those 3 Values (in km) right?
Yes, but for Cross Section, there are three values and it depends on the angle you face your enemy, so here is a video for understanding Cross Section:ua-cam.com/video/-RVwb8xofgw/v-deo.html
Sure the Eclipse is the stealth bomber, but what if I wanted to multiply it by 3? How would a stealth Tali do? Edit: Played with it in SP viewer. Kinda lame, gets limited by cross section at 4700, but that should be good enough for mid range torp throwing.
Can you make a stealth Medical Pisces? 🙂
SPviewer do it in 1 min
Will do, and something you can't see from the SPviewer, so stay tuned.
Suggestion for non official stealth ships: mirai fury, origin 125A, origin 85x
Will do
how many missles does the sabre firebird hold now before I buy it did they nerf the count ?
24 now
@@cpt_foxyloxy thanks
Signature reduction*
"Stealth reduction" implies a nerf to their stealth.
Stealth ship the reclaimer 😆
I'd love to, but unfortunately, we don't have any size 3 or size 4 stealth components, only size 1 and size 2.
I have a Razor EX, will that be given the treatment?
yes, check the part.2 of this video, link is in the description
How did you pull out 2 Sabre's in the hanger? It's not even an Aeroview hanger, so there's even less space
Check this post
ua-cam.com/channels/lH_ArGI6v6iHKKOpvqMZWw.htmlcommunity?lb=UgkxJXKiWwYjRl1rj1vTnOSYy3-UjBotTIPx
More more more! Razer EX! Talon! please?
Can you make a video about MSR?
Could you do a 135c stealth?
yes
Really want to know stealth capabilities of the vanguard series.
Will do
All the Cutters!
Please.
Will do
Firebird loadout please?
Stealth Retaliator
@cpt_foxyloxy Why not just disable one of the power plants in the items? Wouldn't that work? And enable when shit hits the fan.
well.. there is no button to dissable a power plant with the new MFDs.. maybe when the full engineering system is in the game, the resource management MFD is currently not even active.
The eclipse should be the most stealth
I'd like to see the msr
Thanks for the suggestion, but unfortunately there is not size 3 stealth components, and the MSR does have a size 3 shield which can't be stealth-ed.
@cpt_foxyloxy cool that's for the update.. all these changes to components got me confused
Let see a stealth Reclaimer … would love to sneak up and disintegrate my target with the “claw” 😉
Foxy try the titan!
got it
The rocket kills have nothing to do with the stealth. Rockets are currently broken many times and cant be defended. NPCS even dont react to them. As soon as you lock a player he will get a notification that someone has locked in and he will be aware of you.
How do you follow the torpedos with their own cam?
This video will help you
ua-cam.com/video/XNjUX4scsiE/v-deo.html
@@cpt_foxyloxythanks Cap! Trying to figure out why my retaliator can’t hit ANYTHING
@@patrickguerriero5425 sometimes the torps are bugged, try swap them to Typhoon 9, you can buy at A18, dumpers
I think the eclipse is good like that, you can't really even do anything with it..
I wonder how this works with another player. I mean torpedos/missles. Does the player know the missle is coming?
As soon as you radar lock or missile lock players, they will get notified if they are paying attention.
Check the stealth razor pls, ta.
Do a 315p as Stealth ship, plz
will do
i'm upset the Delta, one of the smallest ships, isn't stealth anymore (?!)
I would like a stealth shuttle. C8X
Will do
how did you even manage to get out of your hangar since they are bugged across the entire game?
Looks wise i really like the prowler always wanted one but sadly it flies like a brick swimms.
The prowler had a bit of a work over a couple of patches ago. It flies like a heavy fighter now and packs a decent punch. Its back to being a good ship
Oh, some good news! Thx
You don't need to be nimble like a Viper when your job is to sneak up on a target and deploy boarding troops. 😃
Zeus mk2 cl
Stealth always seems so cheesy in games.... I hope CIG can keep it somewhat reasonable for pvp
could be realy easy.. the moment a stealth ship starts shooting, its signature shout skyrocket. but thats currently not happening. firing a weapon changes nothing and thats clearly not the final state.
@@FalconDS9 that is a very reasonable suggestion at least for energy weapons for increasing the IRs
gg
add f8c pls
definitely for that one
@@cpt_foxyloxy i see the vid. you rock. watching it now
o7
Is it possible that you dont know how to make longer videos than 15min?
its possible that most viewers dont even have the attention span for a video longer then 15mins.. that's why tiktok was so successful
@@FalconDS9 We are not TikTok users, the average SC player is way older.
@@GW2Vids1 ya.. and not every older player got the time to watch a video thats longer then 10mins. we just want the information with the least amount of chitchat as possible. or we want a short brake and watch something funny.. before going back to being an adult...
@@FalconDS9 Did you watch it until the end? It breaks suddenly so I asked him if he can only make 15min videos because his account is probably not verified.
@@GW2Vids1 I think you should start making your own SC videos instead of spreading salt on other channels.
Wow they fixed stealth 😂 why not fix something in the game like bounty’s so stealth can actually be used they have fixed something pointless
not even the AI can cope with how bad master modes is.. combat just looks so bad now in SC =( so so sad. love your vids