Ross Dellenger: The Issue For Florida State Is Where Would They Go If They Get Out
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Ross Dellenger, Yahoo Sports joins 365 Sports to discuss his thoughts on the news from the ACC Conference, his thoughts on the changing landscape of college football, his thoughts on Deion Sander’s Comments to a reporter earlier today, and more.
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FSU game is just 14 days 🏈🏈🏈
They will end up in one of the power 2
@@roderickhogan4566 Eventually. I’d be surprised if they didn’t.
They are going to the B!2. B10 has absolutely no interest and never has. SEC doesn't need them for any reason, they have FL market, they don't need 2 teams from the same states
@@grobble8954lol fsu and clemson bring more views than uf or sc
@@grobble8954why go from one crap conference to another one?
@@mikeschaeffer7262 They will have no choice.
This is navigated right into my Head
First and foremost MAJOR CORRECTION - ESPN does not have an OPT OUT of the ACC Agreement because the contract ENDS as of June 30, 2027. ESPN had an option to OP IN or extend the ACC Agreement to June 30, 2036 which expired in 2021 without extending the agreement. Then in Auguest 2021 Phillips of the ACC granted ESPN a new option to extend the contract to ESPN (without the membership approval. So that option is likely not legal. It has an end date of Feb 1, 2025. Ross should have corrected you because he has admitted he his aware of the difference. So please report accurately that the ESPN option must be exercised as opposed to doing nothiing and the ESPN/ACC Agreement expires on June 30, 2027. Thank you.
The opt in seems to be legal so I expect espn to extend until 2,036. They have no incentive to let the contract expire if it’s such a good deal for espn as fsu is alleging.
@@willn851 Why would they opt in to 2036? We don't even know what the playoff will look like in 2026. ESPN is not committing to a non-power 2 conference for 2 years longer than they are even committed to the SEC.
With everything else in college athletics changing, nearly yearly it seems like, I find it hard to believe the ACC (of all things) will be the one conference that the networks want to keep the unhappy teams inside the conference for.
@@willn851 Terms of the ACC agreement released were redacted for public viewing regarding the ESPN "option to extend to 2036" However, court and attorneys for FSU have seen the agreement in it's entirety. According to attorney complaint the option was granted to ESPN to extend was made by the ACC unilaterally without a vote from member institutions and is therefore null. We'll probably know pretty soon if FSU and Clemson give notice of their intent to leave the ACC in August.
@@willn851 ESPN does, not only is the option invalid, but the definition of "Conference Institution" requires a university is a member of the conference. Therefore if FSU and Clemson (possibly more) leave then ESPN must continue to pay the ACC the same amount (as the ACC added members) but would not have ad revenue generation without the 'cash cows.' Thus ESPN loses revenues and possibly loses profit and even could have losses.
So excited ! For This video
What choice do they have? It's simple... but somehow getting lost here, is the FACT that FSU, and ALL the teams in the ACC, cannot compete on a national level with the current financial disparity. And the ACC conference, who suddenly wants to "fight to the end"... to what? Hold all the teams hostage to die a slow financial death??? It's easy for the haters to hate on FSU, but they are just trying to survive, what would ANYONE do in their position?
Work on an amicable departure without harming the chances of a move to a better situation.
You and other FSU fans constantly prove its conceits. It's not the only ACC school that matters. It's not the only ACC school that sees the risks from the revenue gap. FSU's strategy is not the only one that makes sense.
LOVE U SO MUCH!!!
Not a fan of Deion the coach and how he is running his program; but he is right in this instance.
Nobody should use the word "bolstered"?
Great video
stunning video
No one is looking at the big picture all being blinded by the shiny lights and the cash
If you sit back and look at it
You have the ACC. Solid Southern Conference. Then if you expand up the coast and take the teams of the old big East football Conf add the service academy's with UMass and UConn , Delaware, Liberty , you have all the major east coast media markets and traditional rivals that you can have a true north South conference split .with both fan bases eager to see the bragging rights It will take awhile for some northern teams to catch up but the potential money is thier
All it takes is a plan
Right now it's just a disaster no one in the East cares about the conferences out west or south . It's one bland homogenous mess waiting to implode on itself
Far too dilutive for a Tier 1. Far too large for a Tier 2.
lol FSU pulled an SDSU. LOLOLOLOL
The MAC might be interested.
Just fresh video , buddy
There is ZERO chance FSU or Clemson get more money to stay in the ACC. To do so would require a vote by the ACC member schools, which the majority would vote NO.
you're just so amazing
Dont have a dog in this fight. But the idea that FSU has nowhere to go is beyond ignorant.
They could go to the big 12
Once this case is done,the smoke will clear
@@Giddygooncavethe B12 couldn't keep Oklahoma & Texas why would FSU go somewhere that couldn't keep the last big dogs in? FSU needs to be making the same or comparable money to the B1G & SEC schools or it's not gonna happen Purdue, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Rutgers etc etc should in no universe be making more money than FSU & Clem period
@@GiddygooncaveNot at all.
They are going to pay 100's of millions to make a move to the B12...lol
Great Episode!
We'll take good officials instead of money.
The lawsuit needs to be settled first... they will end up in the SEC.
Seeing as the SEC and ESPN have a pro rata clause and the fact anymore teams would cause the SEC to go to 9 conferences games means this would be very costly for ESPN.
@@troywest7045but they would make it up with the huge increase in viewership
@@SurferRC Yeah, I'm not so sure about that, besides does UF want them in the conference? Does ESPN and the SEC want them after all the mud slinging since FSU was snubbed last year? Honestly, I have no idea, just spit ballin here. I actually think they will end up in the B1G myself, I see them and another school taking the same deal Washington and Oregon got last year, but that's just my prediction.
@@troywest7045UF no longer gets a say since they voted in Texas and OU. It’s what dictator Sankey wants. None of the conferences will take on FSU without a renegotiation of the TV contract. That was the one and ONLY reason Texas and OU were allowed in.
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Now, I wonder how Florida State and Clemson are going to handle this public humiliation between the other power four conferences.
@@dfausti66 🤣
People need to stop pairing CLEMSON with FSU on these matters. CLEMSON has a far different strategy.
FSU is going to get a settlement that will make both parties happy. Now, everyone who wants to leave will now leave.
That's wishful thinking. The ACC wouldn't settle for an amount that anyone in the ACC can match and decide to leave.
That kind of thinking you have is the same reason the PAC-12 is gone. I hope the ACC completely dissolves and the Super League with relegations begins.
No chance unfortunately
@kaioh187 I'm assuming you're not a business major, because you're not taking a few things into consideration. Just take your personal feelings out of it, and think about what the ACC would do to help themselves in this situation. Then, vice versa with FSU.
The super league you want with relegation is more wishful thinking. Wishful... meaning and idea without a plan.
I have a bachelor’s degree in business and now with big money in college sports things are changing. I know the mediation means a settlement is coming. Jim Phillips knows the boot is coming for him if he does not say the ACC will fight to the end. ESPN knows that the ACC does not bring the money like the SEC and Big 10. I believe ESPN will not renew the ACC Network after 2027. All I want to know is where will all of the schools go when the ACC dissolves. The other reason I believe that ESPN will not renew the ACC agreement after 2027 ends is to save money when ESPN goes to a streaming only media away from traditional television.
Do you really thing FSU would do this if they did not have a place
Yes. FSU thought it would get an SEC and/or B1G invite. It was mistaken.
You are more fun than anyone, Such a lovely video
I love you
FSU will either be stuck in the ACC (due to an expensive buyout) or take partial shares wherever they end up. Or they can try to go independent and attempt to challenge ND for that easy playoff spot.
Going independent is not that simple. Besides the media deal and possible revenue shortfall against their ACC revenue, whose is FSU going to be able to schedule as an independent? ND atleast has the benefit of 5 gauranteed ACC opponents.
Is anyone from the ACC going to schedule FSU when they leave? The SEC may move to 9 conference games and with all but UConn/ & ND remaining as independents, there will be significantly fewer options for FSU to schedule P4 schools.
@reverend_wintondupree This is going to be long, I apologize in advance.
Yes, going independent will be difficult. That's a last resort option if they don't want partial shares until the next round of media contracts.
ND already set the formula for how to go about being independent. Partner with a network, and the network could depend on where FSU would ultimately want to end up. CBS is the best bet at this moment. They used to have 1st pick of the SEC games they wanted. They lost that. Now they're battling for B1G games. NBC has ND and battling for B1G games. Copy their formula. Enter into an agreement with the B1G or the SEC if that's where they want to go after the next round of media rights. It's a win/win for both. High profile games all around. You'll be able to schedule Florida, Miami, & Clemson off the top. You'll be able to schedule any ACC teams that wanted to leave a well. That, plus a 5 game agreement with the conference you'll eventually be joining. I'm thinking NC will be willing to schedule, as well as any team in need of a big game. UCF will crawl over broken glass to be on FSU's schedule. That's potentially 9 big games (5 agreement games + FL + Clem + MIA + UCF). I, as an LSU man, would LOVE a get back game against FSU. Or an annual game, we already play Florida every year. USF & Florida Atlantic wouldn't mind either. But if you want max dollars, the Big12 needs high profile games since they don't have premier team in the conference anymore. Utah, K-State, Kansas... here and there would be down for a match-up. Texas Tech no longer has Texas... you can aim to do what nobody has done, and try to have a P5 only schedule. The options are plentiful if you get the scheduling agreement with the SEC or B1G. Worst case, the Big12 will definitely be down for an agreement. As long as you get the green light from the P2, they're golden. You may have to make the Big12 believe that they are a legitimate option. Or keep it at 9 good games, and schedule FAU & USF along with 1 cupcake. And rotate the G5 opponents.
In my personal opinion, a schedule agreement will be easier with the SEC. Simply because not every SEC member has an annual P5 OOC game. Only UGA, FL, KY, & USC have one. So, a scheduling agreement will give other teams the same headache Florida gets on a rotation. But I might be biased.
That buyout may be nothing due to now the contract being moot.
@reverend_wintondupree perhaps FSU could negotiate a similar ACC Notre Dame like scheduling deal ? Not sure the ACC would go for that, but that could be a one foot still in compromise position
Sorry bringing Harbaugh back after what he did is ludicrous beyond belief. His coaching, while great for the outcomes, has now brought more distrust and shame on a great program with a great history until the cheating scandal. If FSU did stay in the ACC, for some reason, the officiating would have to improve and be more fair. FSU has lost a number of games due to bad calls by the refs. Enough to the point that the conference would have to hire seeing referees, as opposed to the blind pigs they have now. Not calling the refs pigs but even a blind pig finds an acorn occasionally, so does even an ACC ref make a good call.
All together now, let's sing "Like a bad neighbor, Florida State is there..."
Durrrrr me Ross me no think good. Me just propaganda peice with no credit. Durrrr
Just leave already. The ACC doesn't want you and nobody else does either.
Bingo * You make me float up like I’m on millions of bubbles
I don't want FSU in the Big 12. They will just be Texas 2.0. also, we already have Utah...we don't need another Utah.
We'll see if Utah can be tamed, we've seen that nonsense before with WVU, and UCF likewise has seen the light. Would rather not deal with another Texas, but then there are really only a small handful of schools that really have that kind of clout. FSU is not in that class. Not even close. Nor is Utah, for that matter. But I agree I don't really want MORE of that garbage.
Don't worry FSU isn't going anywhere near the Big 12, the people running this show have everything under control.
@@xfacta334 I agree they will probably not be going to the BIG12. It could happen if the money was right and there could be room for a Big 3. FSU and Clemson (and maybe even TAMU even though people say I am crazy) would enhance the conference where it would be a legitimate rival to the Big 2. Lots of things would have to occur for it to happen but there is always a possibility. Why? Because it appears that TAMU is not happy with Texas being in their conference. So who knows.The Big12 has what to me is the absolute best commissioner of all the conferences. He is smart and innovative and always thinks of what is best for his conference. Given that, anything could happen in this crazy world of re-alignment.
No chance FSU goes there
FSU and Clemson have both garnered three national titles in the ACC. In short, things aren't broken so why would you try to fix it? Membership in the SEC or Big 10 would also have plenty of problems....that's if the SEC or Big 10 would even allow your schools to enter.
Money. They are not getting enough to be able to compete long term. ESecPN did this when when they valued "Their" conference to get more money then 2 of the 3 other conferences. It is both unfair and probably a violation of the Anti-Trust Act. If you don't have money you cannot stay competitive anymore.
They both will be going to one of those two conferences unless the ACC gives them $40,000,000 a year more which nobody but them would ever vote yes on. It is broken so.......... If they have to pay 150mill they'll make it back in the next 4 years so........... You sound uninformed or just plain dumb AF
B10
BIG12
The SEC needs to get off their Duff and bring in FSU and Clemson. It's ridiculous they are getting snubbed, They are the best 2 candidates for SEC expansion.
Just remember they pissed of the fan bases to the point that a lot of them want absolutely nothing to do with the SEspnC after "The Snub". I agree that FSU probably belongs in the SEspnC but hatred for the mouse is strong.
They add nothing for the SEC.
@@grobble8954fsu brings more viewership than any school outside of bama and uga! They want those eyeballs
@grobble8954 Correct, no $reason$ for SEC to take either FSU or CU.
@@christopherhooter1937 They don't actually increase the per team payout. Keep up Semihole, enjoy the B12