What Killed Rome's Democracy

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  • @JackRackam
    @JackRackam  10 днів тому +125

    Hey, if you liked this video and want to spend more time obsessively thinking about the Roman Empire, check out these other videos!
    The Empire crashes and burns as soon as Augustus dies: ua-cam.com/video/UBfWzZiYxsI/v-deo.html
    Augustus' rival in the East goes on adventures with Cleopatra: ua-cam.com/video/EZYjOz7vzrk/v-deo.html
    Caesar and Pompey's civil war appears in this (very old) video: ua-cam.com/video/2GuglnMJdfc/v-deo.html
    Crassus and his firefighter cartel makes an appearance here: ua-cam.com/video/mpyux9pZO6c/v-deo.html
    This May I'll be showing a group of you around Japan, and the waitlist is still open! You'll be notified as soon as a spot becomes available, and it's the best way to learn about our next trip before anyone else! trovatrip.com/trip/asia/japan/japan-with-jack-rackam-may-2025

    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 10 днів тому +2

      Hello Jack! HUGE FAN! Love your content 😊😊😊

    • @Poni5
      @Poni5 10 днів тому

      Just wanted to say hi
      Recently got your channel recommended and then the rest of your videos and have now watched them.
      Keep up the good work!

    • @davidcoquelle3081
      @davidcoquelle3081 10 днів тому

      It was not a democracy

    • @hillbillypowpow
      @hillbillypowpow 10 днів тому

      ​@@davidcoquelle3081 why not?

    • @heck3143
      @heck3143 10 днів тому +6

      @JackRackam I really wanted to watch it, but I was put off immediately by the AI art at the start.
      It feels like you're better than that, plus the art style was kinda like bad mobile games and had Augustus looking like offbrand Jake Gyllenhaal. Felt like an intro I'd see on a channel with 20 subs that started a week ago, not an established respectable channel. You are better than that.

  • @Shaman42069
    @Shaman42069 10 днів тому +1081

    The fact that Rome ever became so powerful and remained relatively stable for so long with all this political chaos going on is nothing but amazing

    • @Elijah.Ben.BENJAMIN54
      @Elijah.Ben.BENJAMIN54 10 днів тому +56

      But it ended in the end like any evil empire.

    • @cyberninjazero5659
      @cyberninjazero5659 10 днів тому +43

      Like the old saying goes. There's a lot of ruin in a nation

    • @NACBEAST
      @NACBEAST 10 днів тому +142

      The thing to keep in mind is that all of this political chaos was mostly centered around *Rome* itself. A lot of stupid stuff can go on in the capitol so long as it doesn't spill out into the rest of the Empire. When it started to do so, that's when the problems started to get really severe.

    • @LiquidLucidLuke
      @LiquidLucidLuke 10 днів тому +48

      Definitely not looking in America's direction while reading that comment, nope not at all

    • @tylerdurden3722
      @tylerdurden3722 10 днів тому

      ​​@@Elijah.Ben.BENJAMIN54 Rome didn't start out evil.
      Rome was once the definition of incorruptable. During that period, Rome's most respected Hero's were individuals who resisted the temptations of the things that corrupt.
      It was common to find high politicians plowing their own fields, with their own hands, on their farm...during that era.
      It was common for politicians and diplomats to be unbribable during that era.
      And it was in this era that Rome went from a pipsweek to a superpower...then they had a war with Hannibal and ironically this caused the long slow end of Rome

  • @NewtypeCommander
    @NewtypeCommander 10 днів тому +774

    You know, the more one studies about Rome, the more one is left with a paradoxical array of emotions: impressed by its lofty institutions and ideals, simultaneously disgusted by its corruption and brutality, then shocked that this entity (in one form or another) lasted from the Classical Era all the way to the late Medieval period, and left finally wondering, "How?! How did they last for so long?"

    • @LookToWindward
      @LookToWindward 10 днів тому +104

      Rome actually began in the Pre-Classical Era. Yes, it's absolutely astounding it lasted so long.

    • @derpidius6306
      @derpidius6306 10 днів тому +70

      reminds me of WH40K's imperium of man in a way, the emperor's dream of imperium everlasting has been dead ever since the horus heresy, an in-universe civil war which after the fact the imperium has known nothing but corruption and stagnation. yet in spite of all that is against it, its kept alive by the bottom line of people toiling away to keep it going, and the fact that people were still trying to keep the failed imperium going is reason enough to keep trying
      Rome was a clusterfuck FAR before its collapse, but throughout its expansive history there were always people who in spite of how imperfect and flawed Rome was, really did want to keep it thriving and it is these people that allowed it to survive for over a thousand years

    • @ElBandito
      @ElBandito 10 днів тому

      Proper organization. They recorded everything, created infrastructures and laws that would work for centuries. It took some real messed up rulers to break down everything with their silly civil wars.

    • @wildfire9280
      @wildfire9280 10 днів тому +25

      @@derpidius6306 Honestly, I get the sense the failures of 40K’s Imperium far outdoes actual empires.

    • @AliYunusAKIN
      @AliYunusAKIN 10 днів тому

      rome, ottoman empire and colonial empires all were loot/pillage economies when their conquests and expansions stopped they gradually lost their hegemony.

  • @QwertiusMaximus
    @QwertiusMaximus 10 днів тому +364

    Senate: "We are a Republic!"
    Augustus: "I am altering the Republic. Pray I don't alter it any further."

    • @eldorados_lost_searcher
      @eldorados_lost_searcher 10 днів тому +19

      Senate: Surely you aren't declaring yourself a king!? We still pretend to not like that.
      Augustus: No, no, no. I'm no king, I'm simply a citizen, like yourselves. However, I *am* to be considered the first among equals. Does that sound reasonable, Agrippa?
      Agrippa, sharpening a dagger: Perfectly reasonable, First Citizen.

    • @robertortiz-wilson1588
      @robertortiz-wilson1588 10 днів тому +4

      Always an Empire. Was still a Republic, just different.

    • @xzardas541
      @xzardas541 3 дні тому

      @@eldorados_lost_searcher Sounds like modern democracy with less extra steps.

  • @cgt3704
    @cgt3704 10 днів тому +636

    Octavian: "I love Democracy. I love the Republic"
    *1 civil war later*
    Augustus: "The Republic will ge reorganised into the First Roman Empire".

    • @hansonlee5847
      @hansonlee5847 10 днів тому +26

      I think you should replace Caesar with Cicero. Caesar was the one who wanted to be dictator for life

    • @KaiHung-wv3ul
      @KaiHung-wv3ul 10 днів тому +25

      “For a safe and secure…society!”

    • @KaiHung-wv3ul
      @KaiHung-wv3ul 10 днів тому +7

      @ That part was supposed to be ironic.

    • @mjbull5156
      @mjbull5156 10 днів тому +15

      Except Octavian did his utmost to avoid publicly saying Rome was an empire (in the modern sense).

    • @cgt3704
      @cgt3704 10 днів тому

      @@hansonlee5847 Caesar tried to hide his dicatorial role by showing himself as the hero of the Republic.

  • @ZemanTheMighty
    @ZemanTheMighty 10 днів тому +270

    So when Tony Soprano said “you’re looking at em” in reference to the descendants of the Romans he was correct in more than one way.

    • @tylerdurden3722
      @tylerdurden3722 10 днів тому +27

      The Sicilians are descendants of Greeks (and Cartheginians).
      When Rome was still a vassal of the Etruscans, Sicilian city states was already ruled by ruthless mob bosses called Tyrants.
      In fact, the word Tyrant used to mean a ruler who obtained power illegally. The Greek city states of ancient Sicily is the reasan Tyrant now means cruel ruler.

    • @XavianBrightly
      @XavianBrightly 10 днів тому +20

      @@tylerdurden3722 Tony wasnt sicilian, you are thinking of the Godfather

    • @MCKevin289
      @MCKevin289 10 днів тому +20

      @@XavianBrightly
      He was Neapolitan if I remember correctly. I actually grew up around where his actor grew up. His hometown has a bunch of stuff named after him.

    • @budakbaongsiah
      @budakbaongsiah 10 днів тому

      just like what they said, the biggest curse God gave the Romans, turning them into Italians

  • @QwertiusMaximus
    @QwertiusMaximus 10 днів тому +520

    Augustus made them an offer they couldn't refuse.

    • @georgeorwell8501
      @georgeorwell8501 10 днів тому +23

      That’s a nice senate you have there….shame if something happened to it…

    • @freigombert
      @freigombert 10 днів тому +7

      Roman Senate, whatever happened there...

    • @YTenjoyerJ
      @YTenjoyerJ 10 днів тому +4

      He compromised

    • @mirai5850
      @mirai5850 10 днів тому +6

      Lepidus spent 20 years in North Africa cooking grilled cheese on the radiator

    • @lego501stTrigger
      @lego501stTrigger 10 днів тому +7

      You ever hear about the Chinese Emperor? He made them an offer they couldn't understand

  • @sirenbreakfast
    @sirenbreakfast 10 днів тому +221

    3:38 "You see, killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they reached their limit and shut down."

  • @enoughothis
    @enoughothis 10 днів тому +157

    Augustus was very careful to consolidate his power over decades. For most of his career his was merely Rome's First Citizen.

    • @filiptang113
      @filiptang113 10 днів тому

      Yes, but clearly just a formality. It’s kind of like all those countries were their president gets 102% of the vote, even if they claim to be republics, they are de facto monarchies.

    • @shryggur
      @shryggur 10 днів тому

      The dude invented Democratic backsliding millenia before our current wannabe dictators

  • @jackjohnson40
    @jackjohnson40 10 днів тому +24

    In all the videos I have ever watched about Rome, this was the most accurate and best explained 15 minutes. Respect.

  • @remimk
    @remimk 10 днів тому +31

    "Sulla Passed laws to prevent anyone from following in his footsteps, and after Caesar followed in his foot steps he passed laws"

  • @Gefdragoon
    @Gefdragoon 10 днів тому +62

    I genuinely think that this is the best video to introduce this channel with. It's decently funny, and the story of Rome is a very easy one to make interesting. I'm hesitant to call this the best one overall, but it's a good introduction, both to Roman history and the channel. Keep it up, Jack.

  • @kevster99410
    @kevster99410 9 днів тому +7

    Italians: "Why does everyone assume we're all gangsters? That's just a stereotype with no basis in history!"
    Italian history:

  • @Wra7hofAchilles
    @Wra7hofAchilles 10 днів тому +39

    Minor Point: But when the Second Triumvirate "carved up" the Republic Lepidus had Africa AND Hispania. Though at the time the division occurred the war was still raging and though he had Africa in name, in reality it was still controlled by Sextus Pompey and his allies.
    We often overlook and forget about Lepidus but at the time he was seen as a major figure and Octavian was the junior and seen as tertiary to both Antony and Lepidus.

  • @tuomosalo2029
    @tuomosalo2029 10 днів тому +142

    Last time I was this early, Rome was still a democracy.

    • @ElBandito
      @ElBandito 10 днів тому

      As MAGAtards would say: "It was never a democracy, but a republic."

    • @Agent-XI
      @Agent-XI 10 днів тому

      Same

    • @Leo-ok3uj
      @Leo-ok3uj 10 днів тому +11

      So…
      Never?

    • @adamk.7177
      @adamk.7177 10 днів тому +4

      Last time I was this early, America was too

    • @Dogmeat1950
      @Dogmeat1950 10 днів тому +9

      You mean a Republic? Rome was never a Democracy. That was Greece

  • @thenutella8846
    @thenutella8846 10 днів тому +15

    I'm so glad none of the stuff in the video could be similar and foretelling to our modern day socio/economic/political situations in various countries across the world....

  • @OsirisLord
    @OsirisLord 9 днів тому +89

    I really hate the use of AI at 00:15. That doesn't look anything like Augustus and what is going on with his sword? Why do all of the men have beards when Romans famously looked down on beards as being barbaric?

    • @marmite4314
      @marmite4314 8 днів тому +10

      Agreed.

    • @nico-san6902
      @nico-san6902 8 днів тому +4

      Puts to show how much this channel cares about historical accuracy

    • @heck3143
      @heck3143 7 днів тому +10

      Genuinely made me not watch the rest of the video and made me see Jack in a totally different light.
      Any random picture of an Augustus statue would have worked and been *better*. Unnecessary and gross.

    • @N0TYALC
      @N0TYALC 7 днів тому +7

      There were way too many bearded emperors to make the blanket claim that "Romans looked down on beards". Marcus Aurelius, Hadrian, Diocletian, Aurelian, and dozens more had beards. You meant to say that the Roman aristocracy disliked beards during the republic and early empire.

    • @OsirisLord
      @OsirisLord 7 днів тому +4

      @N0TYALC during this period, yes? Hadrian was the first bearded emperor and he lived almost two hundred years after Augustus.

  • @morbidiusgrandestofthegran91
    @morbidiusgrandestofthegran91 10 днів тому +9

    Now THIS is the kind of Rome content that's way too underrepresented! Love this!

  • @whitehawk4099
    @whitehawk4099 4 дні тому +8

    You're telling me that Italians had issues with gangs?

  • @g00dbyemisterA
    @g00dbyemisterA 10 днів тому +75

    kinda surprised the "he would be just as good invading the atlantic ocean" didnt give us a prompt to a video on caligula (given how he declared war on the sea once)

    • @loganicfilms1388
      @loganicfilms1388 10 днів тому +1

      He already made one I think.

    • @g00dbyemisterA
      @g00dbyemisterA 10 днів тому +2

      @ i know, he annotates the video with videos related to what he just said, hence “invade ocean” could annotate to caligula

    • @loganicfilms1388
      @loganicfilms1388 10 днів тому

      @ fair

    • @JustinCage56
      @JustinCage56 9 днів тому +1

      That probably never happened. Some have suggested that he forced his army to pick seashells/attack the ocean as punishment for not wanting to sail to Britain (the winds were too harsh for the journey)

  • @keegandecker4080
    @keegandecker4080 10 днів тому +18

    I shouted out “who killed democracy?” When after all, it was you and me.

  • @argent32
    @argent32 10 днів тому +16

    Two videos this month involving Scipio Africanus from my favorite history UA-camrs?! Hell yeah!

  • @g-trainproductions
    @g-trainproductions 10 днів тому +32

    I do like the recent re-contextualization of seeing Roman generals more as the warlords they were, as emphasized by videos like this or the ones by Tribunate. Feels like a de-mythologizing of history and how we should analyze all states and civilizations. The whole narrative of “great” aristocratic men serving the state out of a higher purpose really feels like it’s blatantly based in the propaganda those same men or their admirers left behind

    • @OsirisLord
      @OsirisLord 9 днів тому +2

      Yes that's correct and in fact we should be paying attention to how the story of Rome played out vis a vis massive wealth inequality being used to seize power and destroy democracy because right now the wealth inequality in the US is on par with the wealth inequality in France right before the Revolution.

    • @TheNapster153
      @TheNapster153 9 днів тому +2

      @@OsirisLord Which can also be argued to be the same wealth inequality to be suffered in Rome.
      It seems that history's endless waltz continues to play tribute to each tune before.

  • @RIB555
    @RIB555 10 днів тому +61

    Holy shit that “At least we’re not actors” line hits so hard when you know about Plato and his feelings towards theatre lol
    Another conesseuir of dramaturgy I see

    • @OsirisLord
      @OsirisLord 9 днів тому +1

      Let me guess, Plato hated theater?

    • @RIB555
      @RIB555 8 днів тому +1

      @@OsirisLord Pretty much.
      He thought very lowly of it. The "at least we're not actors" line is a reference to a dialogue between Plato and a famous actor, in which Plato essentially gets the actor to admit that Actors know very little, less than women or slaves. His opinion of theatre was far from stellar, that is for certain.

  • @Action35
    @Action35 10 днів тому +4

    I've made it so quick to anew upload after binging old episode when I discovered this channel! Hurrah!

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 10 днів тому +16

    YAY! More rome videos! Suggestion: Please consider covering CONSTANTINE the Great

  • @Anders_Lund
    @Anders_Lund 10 днів тому +12

    "There is always room in the family." Just don't let Livia know that you are going to be the next head of the family...

  • @CARL_093
    @CARL_093 10 днів тому +8

    For me, it's
    combination of internal and external factors, including corruption, economic problems, and foreign invasion

  • @IRezinI
    @IRezinI 10 днів тому +1

    I love how you help me learn and laugh lol ur sense of humor is awesome!

  • @NewGuy2534
    @NewGuy2534 10 днів тому +4

    Hannibal: Attacks Rome with Elephants.
    Pyrus: First time?

  • @nonnayerbusiness7704
    @nonnayerbusiness7704 10 днів тому +23

    What a timely and relevant video.

  • @CG-yq2xy
    @CG-yq2xy 10 днів тому +3

    Cassius negotiating with Augustus be like:
    "Your uncle Julius, whatever happened there......"

  • @RanadielMarius
    @RanadielMarius 10 днів тому +19

    "Compared to how rich the east was, the west was by far the worse half," hey don't forget about Lepidus like that! He was... there? I think?

    • @Ashadow700
      @Ashadow700 9 днів тому +4

      That's Lepidus' entire legacy, even to the few people who recognize the name: "He was... there? I think?" xD

  • @jacksonabroad
    @jacksonabroad 10 днів тому +2

    If there was any justice in the Tuberverse, Jack would have 5 million subs. His writing and production quality is untouchable.

  • @dangalfthedruid
    @dangalfthedruid 10 днів тому +47

    8:10 Ain’t that just the way? The obscenely-rich going ballistic at the prospect of losing the tiniest fraction of their wealth, even if it would benefit them and the whole nation in the long run. It’s frustrating to see Americans prop up these types of people as heroes or visionaries, when all they really are much of the time is insecure kids who got lucky at the casino.

    • @tylerdurden3722
      @tylerdurden3722 10 днів тому +3

      The story has more to it.
      The Gracchi brothers abused their power of Veto to the point that it broke Rome.
      And Rome basically had no extravagantly rich people, until politicians used war to become extravagantly rich.

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy 10 днів тому +7

      ​@@tylerdurden3722The Gracci brothers only did that because they genuinely wanted to push land reforms one way or another, and considering everything that happened after their deaths, it's coear they were the most well-intentioned actors of the later Republic.

    • @emilianohermosilla3996
      @emilianohermosilla3996 10 днів тому +7

      Time to apply some gilded age policies, man. It’s not like we don’t know the solutions, they were just camouflaged with empty buzzwords through time “that’s communist!” when asking for efficient usage of taxes and a well working education system, for example. Thanks Reagan 🥴🥴🥴

    • @commisaryarreck3974
      @commisaryarreck3974 10 днів тому +1

      @@MrGksarathy
      "The ends justify the means"?
      Quite easy to romanticize the actions of a tyrant if he dies before he can actually do harm
      Or in this case 2 petty tyrants fighting a gang of petty tyrants

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy 10 днів тому +6

      @@commisaryarreck3974 In their defense, the entire system was stacked against actual reform for the common people, so they had to play dirty to do anything. Were the consequences ideal? No, but they were at least to some extent trying to do the right thing.

  • @ellethegreat1
    @ellethegreat1 9 днів тому +6

    With the new Oversimplified vid, and then this video both being uploaded in the same week that my semester starts. I am literally taking a class called "History of the Roman Empire", I feel like I am being watched. How did ya'll know?

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 10 днів тому +5

    Thanks For this! You always make My day

  • @ladysamxoxo
    @ladysamxoxo 10 днів тому +12

    Just the video I needed right now, Jack you are a GEM

  • @TheMedicatedArtist
    @TheMedicatedArtist 10 днів тому +155

    0:12 Please tell me that isn’t AI art, because it looks A LOT like AI art…

    • @heck3143
      @heck3143 10 днів тому +59

      Yeah that annoyed me too. Made it feel like he stolen the start of his video.
      Though with the art style ig it was stolen from shitty mobile games?

    • @frenzalrhomb6919
      @frenzalrhomb6919 10 днів тому +10

      Alright, here goes "that isn't AI art." There you go, feeling better now?

    • @jeanpierdavidvegachoque6947
      @jeanpierdavidvegachoque6947 10 днів тому +9

      no cambia nada

    • @frenzalrhomb6919
      @frenzalrhomb6919 10 днів тому +3

      @@jeanpierdavidvegachoque6947
      I was just thinking the same thing!

    • @markointhesky
      @markointhesky 10 днів тому +40

      Such a weird place to use it too, he can absolutely make a panning shot of Caesar and a few other prominent Romans for an intro

  • @kalkuttadrop6371
    @kalkuttadrop6371 7 днів тому +2

    Suggestion for a video: Germany from late 1932 to late 1934. The consolidation period. The final struggle between the Weimar Republic, Monarchists, Old Conservatives, the last of the communists, and you know who. More specifically the period from the parliamentary win in late 1932 to the death of Hindenburg and sacking of Von Papen's powerbase in mid-late 1934. A story of how Papen and Hidenburg's gamble failed in the worst possible way, how you know who became THE ONLY GUY and not just THE GUY, and how for a brief period Germany's flag was actually the old red white black tricolor again(seriously, 1933-1935, it was the old tricolor)

  • @ilovemesomme
    @ilovemesomme 10 днів тому +9

    Caesar loved Clodius like a brother in law.

  • @ElBandito
    @ElBandito 10 днів тому +22

    Rome was doing the "trickle down" trick way before others.

    • @7ElevenTruther
      @7ElevenTruther 10 днів тому

      At least rome tried to give the disenfranchised pleb masses welfare and free entertainment so they wouldn't all starve and or rebel lol

    • @temuguntur_amgalan1639
      @temuguntur_amgalan1639 10 днів тому +1

      Never thought it that way but it seems true

    • @Willie5000
      @Willie5000 10 днів тому +2

      And it worked just as well back then. Which is to say not at all.

    • @tylerdurden3722
      @tylerdurden3722 10 днів тому +1

      Rome didn't do trickle down.
      They paid workers absolutely nothing...because the workers on these large corporate farms were vast multitudes of slaves.

    • @ElBandito
      @ElBandito 10 днів тому

      @@tylerdurden3722 I meant how their elites promised vast riches for Rome and went onto these conquering sprees but the loot gets eaten by the generals and the politicians, thus the average Roman citizen didn't get anything out of the booty.

  • @ScarletRebel96
    @ScarletRebel96 10 днів тому +13

    It was ME Barry!!!!

  • @jyanbei
    @jyanbei 10 днів тому +14

    0:48 all things considered, this isn't exactly too off from today's society (USA). Almost par for the course

    • @JOGA_Wills
      @JOGA_Wills 10 днів тому +3

      Besides the firemen, everything else applies today

    • @kitcutting
      @kitcutting 10 днів тому

      You could draw an incredible amount of parallels between the Roman Empire and the USA. This is not news

    • @jyanbei
      @jyanbei 10 днів тому +1

      @kitcutting dunno almost like most major Western civilizations have tried emulating Rome in the past 2000 years.

    • @commisaryarreck3974
      @commisaryarreck3974 10 днів тому

      @@JOGA_Wills
      Honestly at this point private firemen would probably be better then the public option

  • @edisonlima4647
    @edisonlima4647 5 днів тому

    Thanks, G.U.R.P.S rpg, and specially G.U.R.P.S. Rome, you might have been an rpg system that was way better as a read than as a system, but you taught us kids of the 90s SO MUCH RANDOM HISTORY you shaped our obsessions!

  • @MalikF15
    @MalikF15 10 днів тому +7

    This video timed perfectly for Oversimplified video on the way

  • @bladepeterson778
    @bladepeterson778 10 днів тому +1

    what a fun way to reframe looking at this period of Rome's history!

  • @john2432
    @john2432 10 днів тому +4

    Great timing btw

  • @Breakfast_of_Champions
    @Breakfast_of_Champions 10 днів тому +62

    Rome had elections, of the rich and by the rich. The Democracy they destroyed in Greece had participation, no silly elections.

    • @Xalerdane
      @Xalerdane 10 днів тому +9

      Well, participation by land-owning men.

    • @Breakfast_of_Champions
      @Breakfast_of_Champions 10 днів тому +11

      @@Xalerdane It's the modern nonsense claiming that citizen rights equals democracy. It's about who calls the shots.

    • @Argos-xb8ek
      @Argos-xb8ek 10 днів тому +1

      ​@Breakfast_of_Champions That's what it's all about everyone.

    • @jordanhurst6555
      @jordanhurst6555 5 днів тому

      Lmao

    • @Little-rb6rb
      @Little-rb6rb 3 дні тому

      echolalia

  • @mrfoxgamer4202
    @mrfoxgamer4202 10 днів тому +18

    When i was last time this early Romulus and Remus were still fed by shewolf!

  • @cancerino666
    @cancerino666 6 днів тому +3

    6:30 as usual, the problems start with economic inequality

  • @michaelmartens2576
    @michaelmartens2576 10 днів тому

    Ngl, this is an amazing video!! Thanks once again!!

  • @HaikabaWatermelon
    @HaikabaWatermelon 3 дні тому +2

    Roman politics should be their own genre of drama 😂

  • @MedIsman-vj1np
    @MedIsman-vj1np 5 днів тому +1

    Everybody is a Gangster until Don
    Octivius arrive

  • @brutusthebear9050
    @brutusthebear9050 9 днів тому +1

    Here is why Rome lasted so long. Despite how unfair the laws often seemed, Rome was the first to implement a code of law that was above the government. Even if not perfect, many of the bad parts were even more prevalent outside of Rome.

  • @jackiecooper9439
    @jackiecooper9439 10 днів тому +2

    That was an interesting way to look at the end of the Roman Republic

  • @vastcarter
    @vastcarter 8 днів тому +1

    Wonderful timing

  • @MarkusAldawn
    @MarkusAldawn 10 днів тому +2

    If Jack Rackham finishes explaining how Rome imploded before I get to the cinema, I have missed the start of Sonic 3. Welp, at least it's good power walking entertainment.

  • @CliffCardi
    @CliffCardi 10 днів тому +7

    1:09 🤓 erm, actually, that was the king’s son.

  • @tagalongtoourpast
    @tagalongtoourpast 9 днів тому

    One of my very favorites!! Thanks for another Jack Rackam gem!

  • @prettypic444
    @prettypic444 9 днів тому +2

    It’s gotta be hard to do street ballet in a toga

  • @jefffrederick258
    @jefffrederick258 8 днів тому

    I’m subscribed and have notifications turned on. How did I miss this?

  • @mariomint7856
    @mariomint7856 10 днів тому +1

    This video came at the perfect time when I start rewatching the HBO rome show.

  • @MrKingHyena
    @MrKingHyena 9 днів тому +5

    as a long time fan of the channel "ive been thinking about the roman empire again" reads like a threat in the best way

    • @OsirisLord
      @OsirisLord 9 днів тому +3

      I still want that Germanicus fan fic.

  • @Runeinc
    @Runeinc 10 днів тому +1

    And this is why I play the miniature war game, Gangs of Rome.

  • @TrippyToons
    @TrippyToons 8 днів тому

    You did great like always! I have a question. What do you think alien music would sound like?

  • @Gennaropacchiano
    @Gennaropacchiano 10 днів тому +3

    The whole thing about the army being autonomus from the central government and mostly acting on it's own reminds me of the Japanese army during WW2

  • @starkilr101
    @starkilr101 5 днів тому +1

    Democracy leads to tyranny. Mind blown.

  • @theawesomeman9821
    @theawesomeman9821 10 днів тому

    Brutus: "In the name of the Senate, you're under arrest!"
    Octavian: "I am the Senate!"

  • @grogery1570
    @grogery1570 10 днів тому +2

    After watching this my question isn't why did the Roman Empire collapse, it is why did it take so long?

  • @darklordmalthric3633
    @darklordmalthric3633 10 днів тому +3

    Can you cover general Sulla? The guy who did everything that Caesar did but first.

  • @eskewroberts7663
    @eskewroberts7663 10 днів тому

    I swear, every UA-cam who makes a video on early Rome are quick to say "I ain't hear no bell"
    but, tbf, that was Rome's whole vibe

  • @cheydinal5401
    @cheydinal5401 10 днів тому +25

    The last "Don Augustus" line was definitely on some level inspired by certain events that unfolded in the last 2 months and 17 days

    • @fierylightning3422
      @fierylightning3422 10 днів тому +8

      Except the certain individual you’re referencing got into power by popular vote; not by military coup

    • @commisaryarreck3974
      @commisaryarreck3974 10 днів тому

      @@fierylightning3422
      But cheeto is bad!
      Should've voted for the guy that gave himself, his family, his cronies and everyone else pre-emptive pardons for any and all past, current and future crimes comitted including treason
      It's almost as if putting forwards the worst candidates possible backfired somehow

  • @buiuzinhocaradesapo
    @buiuzinhocaradesapo 10 днів тому +3

    Al Capone's ancestor, El Cappuccino

  • @erinaltstadt4234
    @erinaltstadt4234 10 днів тому

    Thank you, this was very interesting

  • @Borderose
    @Borderose 10 днів тому +24

    "The government is gangs."
    Yeah, Jack. Always has been. The government, roughly described, is supposed to be the one gang (or violence organization) we grant legitimacy to. If it ceases to be the only game in town that means it's kinda failing.

    • @dr.nosborn6330
      @dr.nosborn6330 10 днів тому

      True
      By definition is the gangest of the gangs. The one that holds the hegemony on violence. Withdrew it that and you have Haiti (poor Haitians, can't catch a break)

    • @OsirisLord
      @OsirisLord 9 днів тому

      See Haiti

  • @eligoldman9200
    @eligoldman9200 10 днів тому +1

    Roman society was run by patroon and client relationships. Having power was basically who you know. Every single person was eager to serve someone powerful in hopes that he’ll be your patron give you an allowance and make your family wealthy. Therefor mafia state seems about right.

  • @holstorrsceadus1990
    @holstorrsceadus1990 10 днів тому +5

    Hey bud, where ya been?

  • @AmericanCrusader222
    @AmericanCrusader222 9 днів тому

    “I’ve been thinking about the Roman Empire” is so fucking real

  • @martinconway8174
    @martinconway8174 10 днів тому

    Best episode yet

  • @bcvetkov8534
    @bcvetkov8534 9 днів тому +4

    Just a friendly reminder that Augustus was so popular by the end of the civil war with Antony. That people started actively harassing his political "opponents" that were "running" against him on their own. He openly ran for every senatorial office in the Republic and won them handily repeatedly. I need to stress that Augustus ' rule was so well liked by the Roman citizenry at large that it undid the entire legacy and legitimacy of the Republic for the last 400 years in about a decade. That's how dysfunctional the Senate was by the end. No one not even Cicero or Cato could've saved it from someone like Octavian or even Julius Caesar.
    Saying Rome was one big gang isn't really true tbh and it oversimplifies historical events a lot but thats Rackham's thing and he makes funny and well made entertaining videos that I definitely appreciate. Anyway thanks for reading this have a great day guys.

    • @darth_nihilus_
      @darth_nihilus_ 8 днів тому +2

      Cato was the only one who truly was responsible for the great Roman civil war.

    • @orrorsaness5942
      @orrorsaness5942 8 днів тому +1

      @@darth_nihilus_fair

  • @Virgil191
    @Virgil191 9 днів тому

    Rome surviving as long as it did is one of the most absurd feats in history

  • @jmace2424
    @jmace2424 8 днів тому

    Consuls being elected for 1 year only was easily the biggest flaw in the Roman system.

  • @superraegun2649
    @superraegun2649 7 днів тому

    So, Augustus didn't fix Rome's violence and corruption, he won.

  • @DavidGonzalez-jh6eh
    @DavidGonzalez-jh6eh 10 днів тому

    Fry: What killed ancient Rome?
    Big Brain: MEEEE!

  • @shinjinobrave
    @shinjinobrave 10 днів тому +3

    Sextus Tarquinius was a prince, not a king

  • @ender7278
    @ender7278 10 днів тому

    I'm literally learning about this in class right now.

  • @qetiogusliriope7436
    @qetiogusliriope7436 8 днів тому

    I will send this to my son to tell him Italians will never change.

  • @brandonprendergast7806
    @brandonprendergast7806 10 днів тому +3

    "The pinnacle of western civilization" no dude it was ancient Mexico and it's capital was ancient Chicago

  • @strudeel
    @strudeel 8 днів тому +1

    1:08 It wasn’t the king, it was his son Sextus Tarquinius.

  • @umbryinite1587
    @umbryinite1587 3 дні тому +1

    This is exactly how people will look back at America

    • @Little-rb6rb
      @Little-rb6rb 3 дні тому +2

      no, because america had industrialization, so the yeomen who lost their smallholdings to the planter elite could actually go somewhere and do something

  • @legateelizabeth
    @legateelizabeth 8 днів тому +5

    Jack, I love your narration, your summary style, your topic choices, I just…
    The use of AI art bugs me. Like, morally and quality-wise.
    Your pivot animation style is unique, and it’s fun! If doing it means you have to use AI to _this_ degree? I’d legitimately prefer a black screen or using squares like historia civilis or something. It’s a blight on your otherwise wonderful library.
    Sorry, I know this comment doesn’t matter and won’t change anything, but this video’s AI art felt particularly AI-y and more prevalent than usual.

  • @Warmaker01
    @Warmaker01 10 днів тому +1

    The political murder, violence surrounding the Gracchi Brothers was IMO, the first stumble on the slippery slope. The Roman Republic slipped and fell there and would eventually meet its end. Roman politics had always been ultra-competitive. But never to the point of resorting to murder.
    Jack, you also failed to mention the murders Sulla did when his army marched on Rome. There's an actual civil war going on between Sulla and Marius. As dictator, Sulla tries to make it harder for someone else to do what he just did. But it no longer mattered. He showed that it was now perfectly acceptable to take an army and march on Rome, slaughter your rivals. Everyone else took notes and learned from that.
    I also want to add that there was an earlier Social War when the Latin cities that helped Rome for so long rebelled because they were not getting the rewards. They had shown faithfulness during the Second Punic War. When Hannibal was crushing Roman armies left and right in Italy, the Latin cities for most parts stayed loyal, which confused the hell out of Hannibal. When the Roman Republic expanded into unforeseen heights after that war, the Latin cities were a major reason why. For every 1 man Rome sent to war, the Latin cities sent 3. For every Roman Legion there were a handful of Allied Legions that were trained and fought as the Romans.
    When the Latin cities wanted a better share and Roman citizenship, they were denied. A rebellion brewed up and armies that once saw each other as allies in war were now killing each other. Romans were attacking and sacking cities of people they once called allies.
    And they were getting rich while bloodying their hands, too. Sulla was one of the major leaders in the Social War.
    The Social War also IMO, was a big reason why the later Roman civil wars were so easy to happen. Killing friends and allies, people they called comrades, was already an easy thing to do.
    The Roman Republic was doomed long before Augustus and Julius Caesar.

    • @commisaryarreck3974
      @commisaryarreck3974 10 днів тому

      Oh no, no it wasn't
      Their blatant abuse of the veto to break the system and leave no room was the first stumble. Their murder after was the consequences of their own actions. They ground the state to a halt and it's breaking point. Disregarding the honor system that allowed it to function

  • @sahilhossian8212
    @sahilhossian8212 8 днів тому +1

    Lore of What Killed Rome's Democracy momentum 100

  • @thenewmase
    @thenewmase 10 днів тому

    Great time to post this

  • @svon1
    @svon1 10 днів тому +1

    had that exact thought couple of years back :D .... Italia it seems has not changed that much over the past 2,5 Millennia

  • @theawesomeman9821
    @theawesomeman9821 10 днів тому

    I used to study Athens and Rome from civics and I learned that:
    1)A direct democracy like Athens is chaotic in its nature and because most people are ignorant, it usually ends up reverting to less democratic methods to keep society functioning.
    2) A representative democracy like Rome, only works as long as various parties put aside self interests and are willing to compromise with one another instead of being partisan.

    • @mrsupremegascon
      @mrsupremegascon 9 днів тому

      The first point isn't true today in the West. Most people are very much literate.
      The issue with the current political elite, is that they act and treat people as if were a illeterate mob from the 1900s, and wonder why they vote for more populist politician who treat them better.
      Direct democracies like in Switzerland is the best political system.

  • @cooperhedger
    @cooperhedger 9 днів тому

    This may have been the most confusing educational video I have ever watched.

  • @mra4521
    @mra4521 10 днів тому +1

    13:30 this is why only Brian Blessed could play Augustus. And why Augustus was a monster.

  • @burtan2000
    @burtan2000 9 днів тому +1

    You act like the armies weren't gangs before Augustus.
    I'm sorry but wasn't Gaul conquered by Caesar's army? Not Rome's legions. Caesar's legions.
    If they were Rome's, they wouldn't have followed him over the Rubicon