Photographing GRIZZLY BEARS 😱 in Montana & Wyoming with my Sigma 150-600
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- Опубліковано 23 лис 2020
- Encountering GRIZZLY BEARS while hiking in Glacier National Park, Montana... it's kind of scary! In this video, I talk about my experience encountering and photographing four grizzly bears in Wyoming and Montana.
Grizzly bear #1: Killed an elk in Yellowstone National Park, was across from the river and highly photographed
Grizzly bear #2 was off of the Hidden Lake Trail near Logan Pass in Glacier National Park.
Grizzly bear #3 was along the Highline Trail in Montana.
Grizzly bear #4 was also along the Highline Trail... and that encounter was WAY too close for comfort.
Always make sure to have bear spray when hiking in these areas.
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Hope you enjoyed this photography adventure! #1 thing is to always be safe and careful out there. No photo is more important than your life.
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I enjoyed your photos. Thanks for sharing. I've always wanted to get into wildlife photography. Thanks again.
Thank you very much for sharing, God bless and stay safe, ray from queens, ny
You guys should have sprayed the bear though. He was definitely acting predatory if he snuck up. The bear knows you're there way before you see the bear. They have a better nose than a bloodhound. A little shot of bear spray would make him think twice about approaching hikers. When a deterrent is used properly it can keep you and the bear out of trouble.
(TLC)..Don't go chasing grizzly bears
Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to
I know that you're gonna have it your way or nothing at all
But I think you're moving too fast
Well one day you're not going to be so lucky and you'll be lunch and scat.
You should never feel ashamed of what you have, whenever you are around other photographers and their gear. You are a great photographer.
says ?
@@Sunshinesniles What do you mean by “says” ? I had posted this to give her some encouragement.
If your looking to start some shit, do it in someone else’s post.
Encouragement is priceless. As long as its beneficial to do well.
@@kylenelson9755 I'm not sure what your talking about .could you please remind me. I'm so sorry if I said anything upsetting at all
If your referring to my post saying says?
That wasn't to you or anyone about a photographer. It was about the dog with big ears. Before you swear at me ease check what your talking about. if your so concerned about encouraging people. Maybe your words can hurt as well as help
2:19 I notice some photographers feel this way. I think there'll always be a better photo than the one you're seeing. The photos you take are always special because you create them yourself. I never care if others' photos are better than mine. My photos are special to me because I was there at the scene and I created a memory.
I have had two encounter's with bear spray. False sense of security. Good to have but if bear wants you, means nothing. Kills me that people think the wild is a just a zoo.
You bet, only thing I want with me is a shotgun loaded with Deer Slugs and a holstered 44mag. Otherwise, no hikey in bear country.
@@dictator9849 you are a very smart man!
@@dictator9849 The 12 gauge weighs more than bear spray and is more difficult to carry (even a 44 mag. weighs more than bear spray!) on a long hike. How close is the bear before you fire (could be a bluff charge?)? Without practice shooting at objects bounding towards you at 35 mph, you might only wound the bear. Hence studies of bear spray vs large caliber firearms claim bear spray is a better deterrent. I wonder how they proved this? Wouldn't a charging bear's momentum carry him right through a cloud of bear spray?
@@kiYAKER741 Weight of your weapons should be a non-issue. Sure, they are heavier than the spray, but after all you’re in a dangerous situation that in my mind, outweighs the need for more exertion. After all, hunters do it all the time (carry the extra weight). As to missing, you would have pretty good odds of hitting a charging object if you can remember this, …………aim low like a foot to 1,.5 feet off the ground of the charging animal. This is true for bear spray too. Biggest mistake people make is shooting over the head of the charging target. Secondly, your greatest chance of mortally wounding or stopping a Grizzly charge is with the shotgun or a rifle with a .375 or .400 round. The chest holstered .44 (in my case anyway) is most likely a last resort. Your chances of brining down a charging Grizzly bear with a handgun are pretty low unless you’re a decent marksmen. If you miss with the shotgun, pretty good odds the mauling has started and your day took a very bad turn. Hopefully you would then have the chance while your being eaten to pull the .44 mag out and shoot him/her at point blank range. As far as a bluff charge goes, I don’t really know what to say about that other than I myself (just speaking for myself) am not going to wait and see. It’s not worth the chance. With a black bear it might be different.
Bear spray is VERY effective and can prevent attacks or shorten the duration of the attack. This isn't even a question. And handguns are also highly effective against bears in an attack. Google "AmmoLand" and "bear attacks" and you'll see the most comprehensive collection of bear attacks where a sidearm was used with actual sourced facts and numbers. Get your stuff together son and educate yourself.
Great stuff Nicole. Very gutsy, walking along those icy sheer drops. Oh and of course dealing with a grizzly :-).
Thank you Andrew! It was probably my most memorable day of the year. Hope all is well!
@@NicoleGlass I can understand that Nicole. Rare moments with wildlife enrich our lives, especially when there is an element of danger :-). All good over here thanks. Keeping busy and so far out of trouble. I hope November is treating you well also.
What an exciting and frightening video. I was on the edge of my seat throughout! I'm very relieved that you were not on the menu. That hike looks as deadly as a close-up grizzly encounter too. You are very brave. The scenery was so beautiful. I think your photographs and video of the grizzly bears are very good. I feel that you have been too hard on yourself. It's a 10 out of 10 from me.
I'm glad you shared your photos. They're just as good as your more professional photos because they carry a story with them. 🥰Thanks for sharing! 🙂
I enjoyed this so much! We were just there and didn't get to see a grizzly so I thank you for sharing! Great story and glad you are safe!
Thank you for telling us about your experience. You did good on the trail and your pictures of the bear in the huckleberry field are amazing!
After seeing no bears at all when we went to Canada two years ago I became obsessed with bears, so when we got home I watched loads of bear videos on UA-cam. What I saw made me glad I didn’t see any in Canada! So I’m glad you got your photos after your scary encounter, even if you’re not entirely happy with them! You’re alive and that’s the main thing :)
Yeah actually I am more afraid now in hindsight than I was in the moment. I think adrenaline kicks in and keeps you focused on the "what to do" aspect, rather than the fear aspect.
Hey, Nicole! You got good pictures of the bear! It is indeed a scary situation to face a bear close, easy to imagine. I have never seen a bear in the wild here in Finland. Nice video!
Stunningly beautiful hiking trail. Was magical to watch this. Thank you! I'm glad you're both safe.
That was great, thank you for sharing, and all the photographs were great.
Wow, what a story! I enjoyed every minute of it and it kept me in suspense. You are an amazing story teller!
Aw thanks Silvia! :) Really appreciate that.
Great Video, even without the encounter video, your narration really gave the feel. Really nice...!!
Wow, amazing story! I'm loving all the videos about your photography adventures :)
Thank you so much! These take a lot longer to edit so I very much appreciate it:)
Great story and cool photos! Thanks for sharing!
So you went looking for grizzlies and then stopped in a berry patch and were surprised to see a grizzly? Got it
right
Right
I bet she would taste good, especially if she was just eating berries. Can you blame the big lunk?
Lol first time I ever ate huckleberries in my life and I get so much crap for it 🙈
@@NicoleGlass don’t ever eat the bears huckleberries again.
Love this story , keep on the good work , greetings from Sweden!!
Brilliant video. SOOOO glad you guys had bear-spray, I was beginning to think you might not. Oh, and I'm glad it's not just me that misses the best potential video because I just turned the camera off or it ran out of power. I am not normally suspicious but I make an exception when it comes to the video gremilins who wait for such moments!
that was inspiring Nicole. I have been to Glacier 3 times but never had that encounter before. That trail looked like it was gorgeous. Never been on that one but the scenery was magnificent. You made a good choice concerning the bad weather situation and with the bear encounters. Thank you for sharing that unique experience!
sometimes the coolest and in this case dangerous things that happen are when we are not expecting it to happen, and I love that. Pictures can never truly define the feeling of that moment no matter how good an image is.
Wow! Icy trail with heights and up close grizzly bears - that is a trail for the brave. Glad you made it out safe!
Thank you! Yes it was a scary trail for sure!
Very nice video, thanks for sharing 😁👍
The Montana photos are great, because of the story they tell. I have felt the same thing, that being one of a gang of photographers all congregated at a prime watching point is a second-rate experience. Finding you own wildlife, and maybe having it be usually too far away, but sometimes too close, that's the real magic.
I really enjoyed this hon. Well done.....I've been to glacier a score of visits since 1969
Including one on the trail at cut bank on the east side where two girls had been attacked by brownies and one killed....77
Man so many more folks these days....
I was there two years ago.....fog and rain are common at what I feel is our most scenic park
You're lovely....well done Nicole..I'm subscribing
Love the video and the photos 😊
What a story! And very well told 😀
Glad you survived to hike another day.
Thank you! I’m glad I survived too 😅
What a wonderful experience! You're a fantastic storyteller Nicole. I would love to get photos like that of a bear. We have quite a few here in Asturias but I've never got as close as that! Think you definitely did the right thing reaching for the bear spray instead of the camera initially! Subscribed!
How special being lucky enough to see two bears on one hike Nicole. Very pleased you all managed to get back down safely.
Thank you!! Yes, I couldn’t believe it. So rare for that to happen
I was there last year in Yellowstone and I was also able to catch that grizzly with its bull elk kill. It was an awesome experience but also humbling to see all those crazy expensive lens kits 😅
Awesome video! Glad y'all made it out unharmed
I enjoyed your Vidio and pictures!! Beautiful scenery and you are a good story teller. Your Vidio and pictures are special!
Great story, great shots!
The short intimate moments with wildlife are worth a million times more than the "Mass produced" moments. Newly Subscribed, keep up the great videos .
Great story, beautiful scenery, I love my new Sigma 150-600 lens !
Wow 😳 You sure are brave. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks! Well... I don’t know if brave is the right word. I didn’t exactly plan to encounter that bear 😅
Great vid Nicole....I dont know what was more dangerous....the dicey icey trail or the bear encounter...glad it worked out for you for sure....stay safe out there....!!
Thanks! I definitely would never do that hike in the snow again.
Fantastic photos. Fantastic experiences. Grizzlies are magnificent creatures, aren’t they? Thank you 🙏 for sharing your experiences. I was too scared to take that trail in Glacier. We watched grizzlies from the safety of the Lodge at Many Glacier Hotel. That was my thrill of a lifetime! 💜
I heard that lodge is fantastic! The East side of the park was closed when I went. Glad you got to see them safely!
Nicole I truly loved your video from start to finish! Don't ever put your equipment down or measure yourself up to other photographers. It's all about the moment that you capture with your eyes. You can't ever take that away or play it down. Totally love the story line as well as the cinema photography. I give you * BIG kudos* on the hiking up that mountain! You did the totally right thing and made the right call. Thank goodness it wasn't a mama bear with cubs! If you ever come to Florida I would love to take you and your boyfriend on a swamp walking tour. I also shared your video inside my bear album, we don't have Grizzlies but we have Florida Black Bears and have been getting awesome up close video footage using my trail cameras. Anyways, again keep up these amazing videos!
What a great story of your grizzly experience! Seriously, I enjoyed the photos you took--my favorite was the toothy grin of Grizzly#3! That was awesome! He seemed to be smiling!
Haha yeah it kind of looked like it...
Loved this vid. How super exciting. I agree 💯 that seeing so many photos of the same thing (in our area, a barred owl is being shared by 100s right now) I totally lose my motivation 😢 to even go shoot
Thank you!! Yes... it feels less special when you see those photos absolutely everywhere
Yes, the capabilities of modern cameras coupled with outstanding, affordable telephoto lenses, and storage devices with massive capacities enable the masses to capture stunning wildlife photos. It becomes more about being in the right place at the right time and shooting many, many shots. At nature photographer meetings I’ve heard three renowned pros emphasize two things: first, the only people who immediately begin judging photos by sharpness, noise, and other technical details are photo techies, and second, the essence of most wildlife photos is about the experience-the story you are telling. You seem overly concerned about technical details when you should just be more confident in sharing your experience and the story you are telling.
Thanks for sharing. You did a good job with the video. I greatly desire to photograph a grizzly bear in the wild. From a distance. Lol. I’m going to hidden lake trail, just as you did. Keep up the good work girl
Awesome 👍My favorite photos are the Montana set, because of your fun and exciting story telling. Let's do this again. Cheers
Thank you Thomas!! I had fun editing this together :) It was certainly a memorable day...
Really enjoyed this!
:D
I really enjoyed watching this thank you greetings from the UK
"what do you go for? The camera ? or the bearspray? " If you go for the camera you go on National Geographic, if you go for the bearspray you stay alive.... it's a matter of priorities ;)
Haha I guess so...
what a positive story about bear encounters. I went down the trail yesterday. I skipped the glacier overlook part of the hike as my legs started cramping. I walked out of the trial as the last person taking close to 4 hours on return with almost sunset and totally isolated. I feel incredibly lucky, after hearing about your experience! makes me rethink my life - what if I encountered a grizzly when i am limping and alone on the hike with a bear spray in hand. Thanks, Nicole !
It's such a beautiful place! But yes, I agree with you: I would not want to have an encounter like that alone!
Nice pictures with the story you have shared.
Thanks!
Who knew a frozen huckleberry field would save your life from a grizzly attack. It makes sense to me.
Found your channel whilst researching sigma 150-600 videos (reviews etc) and this one popped up too, must have been a wild experience - definitely want to be at the long end of the zoom for grizzlies! And also shows the lens is ok in those conditions too 👍
Wow- what an experience! You all are quite brave 😎
Awesome adventure and scenery the bears make that incredible. Love the freedom of being in touch with nature.
Thank you!! It definitely made me feel alive
All rightie then!!! I'm an avid hiker but when it comes to meeting up with a bear on the trail, watching your video is as close to one as I want to get. Especially since my small dog and I hike alone. Whew! So happy you came out of this in one piece. An Oregon nomad 🌲❤🐶😽❤🌲
I’d be so scared for small dogs!! And I definitely wouldn’t want to hike alone in bear country. I guess there’s a feeling of safety in numbers.
What a great story and experience. Enjoyed it very much.
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
Thanks for sharing. I shoot with the same lens as you and love it. And yes, I have put away my GoPro before the fun began. Thanks!
I really enjoyed this video. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for Sharing!
Going to yellowstone this year.
Have an amazing time!
Loved your narrated story. I was in Yellowstone to see the Grizzly on the river. Incredible. My camera battery had just died before I saw the bear. I do profesional video. What a great adventure you had. I really wanted to see a grizzly bear while I was there, and felt lucky to see this guy.
Oh noooo, I would’ve been so sad if my battery died! I’m glad you got to see it! We were both lucky that something so incredible coincided with our trips
Great job! Life changing experience!
Thank you!
I thought- I haven't heard from Nicole Glass for a while, looked your channel up and watched this! You were not far from where I live! I've been in this area for a quarter century and you've seen more grizzly bears than I have! Great shots of the mountains. Very tricky hiking when those trails ice up, any pool of water or moisture freezes and becomes dangerous.You made the right decision not to continue through. All it takes is one slip to ruin your weekend or your life. Great video. I liked the journalism angle of showing the crowd of photographers taking their bear photos with the incredible equipment they've lugged from the car to roadside. Thank you for posting! (Only 4,ooo subscribers to 30K!)
Really awesome video
Great footage and looked like an awesome trip!
Thank you! :)
She said that she was disappointed that the bear was looking down because it was eating, and I was like the hell, it's still way better than him staring at you and having you for the dinner.
Amazing experience. I’m super happy for you.
Thanks! ☺️
Thank you for that awesome story
Sure thing!
Very interesting! Thank you😁🐶
Have you seen all the amazing bear and wildlife images on Instagram etc. No image is worth risking your life for especially nowadays when very few people are even getting paid for wildlife photography. Stay safe
🤩 wow. What a hike‼️
I went to photo 📷 school in Missoula Montana. Experience of a lifetime. Just a note, you can rent any lens your heart ♥️ desires.
Kindred spirit sitting 🪑 in the cornfields of the Midwest feeling a road trip comin on strong. Stay safe, enjoy the journey.
Yo, great story! Glad everyone ended up being safe.
Thank you! Yeah, we were pretty lucky! Or unlucky. Depends on someone's perspective on it, haha.
Hey amazing footage!
Glad you liked it!
Very cool video!!!
Thank you very much!
love your videos:)
Glad you like them!
You guys did the right thing when it came to the last bear. we hiked to mount siyeh summit and yes to see two bears on the same hike in glacier is quite common. we saw 7 in the rock scree. my only recommendation is always make noise on the trail not just after you see one close to you. don’t whistle sounds like pray. also everyone in the group needs their own bear spray too often are people not standing right next to someone with bear spray and half the time the other hiker is in the direct spray zone or down wind. beautiful pictures. if you would ever like to get pictures of grizzly’s safely i’d be glad to take a group up to the siyeh pass trail. then up the scree slide to the bears flipping rocks looking for mountain months. happy trails
YOU have them and your LIFE! that is stil 4 more real photos than I have. GOOD FOR YOU
"Not the best photos"??? This is all amazing!
I think they’re great photos! And you’re safe! Congrats!
thank you!
Photos are great! And a great adventure!! Good for u
Gorgeous photos and awesome unforgettable story
Thanks so much! Definitely a story I won't forget :)
Super cool story! It reminded me of my own trip to Siberia this summer) Being one to one with nature and observing survival instincts raising in yourself
Siberia must be so interesting to visit! Did you encounter any cool wildlife?
@@NicoleGlass not really except for small roadens and beavers ;) I expected more danger from strangers that we could potentially meet on your way
One l love your camera work and thank you for all the scenery shots it’s so beautiful there, two wow why wouldn’t you put yours up l for one would have liked to have seen them, three lm so glad your alive and able to tell the tail of your grizzle episodes truely owesome l couldn’t an l know what you did is amazing but l couldn’t, thank you so much for your story and beautiful films
I love your content.
Great story! I'll be in that area next week... though I hope I don't have A Close Encounter of the Grizzly Kind. 🤞
Keep up the good work!
Thanks! Maybe they're hibernating now? I'm not sure of their hibernation timeline... but have a wonderful trip!!
Hey Nicole, I'm a little late to the party here! Just viewed 2 of your videos for 1st time. Great Video. I know you made the right decision grabbing bear spray and backing away. I'm pretty sure if that were me sitting there, I would have taken several shots 1st. It takes 3 seconds to put camera to eye, focus and fire off 10 or 20 frames. My belief is, better to get the shot that to regret it afterwards. June of 2020 my wife and I had a similar experience in Montana outside of Glacier with a griz. We were also hiking and while sitting against a pine tree having a snack a large griz walked up into a small pond 20 yards from us. It knew we were there. WE both laid flat on ground very quietly while I shot 50 photos of the griz tossing logs around in the pond. I got some amazing shots. We then backed away to a safe spot and left the area.
Your life is definitely more important than a good pic! I'm glad you all made it out okay.
Tha being said, those photos are incredible :D
Thanks so much! Yeah I wish I had better pictures but at least I have a story:)
@@NicoleGlass
1) You still have good photos
2) You have one hell of a -documented- story
3) You all got to walk away without using the bear spray
I see that as a big win!
We travel to Glacier National Park two or three times each year from Sandpoint, Idaho. However.... we did not go this year. In my younger days, I would carry a camera equipment backpack. Now, I only carry my Panasonic 1000, plus a small pocket camera. That's all I need anymore. Very nice adventure. Great work!
I travel to Sandpoint from Montana to get away from all of the people now..
@@mtguy234 Sandpoint has gone crazy. Too many people and housing has doubled. Do you have a website? I would love to see your photographs. Hi from Sandpoint, Idaho USA.
Awesome story.. New subscriber :)
Loved this video, especially the encounter. I am getting my 150-600 Sigma C today and am looking forward to get some good shots of whatever :)
Btw you guys also use Peak Design gear, does your 150-600mm fit in the Everyday Backpack?
Nice! Enjoy the lens! I have one Peak Design Everyday bag that it fits in yes, but I also put it in a smaller Amazon brand bag without any problems. It does take a lot of the bag’s space though.
Good job! Thanks
Great video! Bear spray has an effective range of 30 feet and longer with the premium stuff so you should have sprayed the grizz when it’s that close. I’m a Yellowstone Ecosystem bear and wildlife photographer and was actually in Hayden Valley when that grizzly was munching on the bull elk across the river. Making noise isn’t always the best approach when you’re photographing bears, in opposition to just hiking and no wanting to see any of these beautiful brutes. But getting them to know where you are is. Usually walking slow, watching where you are in relation to plant growth (berries), dead kills (animal carcasses), or sagebrush areas. Usually talking to a bear calmly is better than shouting and posing yourself as a threat. The huckleberry field should have been a red flag for encountering bears and I often try to find huckleberry or salmonberry fields to look for bears. Bears and wildlife often use hiking trails to navigate around just like we do. And you have a great lens; I regularly use a Sigma 150-500mm f/5-6.3 on my Sony a7iii and crop in a bit in Lightroom. Next time you come to Yellowstone, check out the Slough Creek Trail in the northeast section, which has numerous grizzlies. For grizzly and black bear knowledge when hiking or photography, read Stephen Herrero’s book Bear Attacks: Causes and Avoidance. And your work is awesome so keep it up!
Your photography was stunning of the area! Your story engaging too. I’m from Rockie Mts and your go pros were like being on the trails , so crisp I could smell the soil and hear the snow falling. Im so glad I stopped and took time …Substribed too ! Thank you
I was reading this and I farted and poop 💩 came out instead
Thanks for sharing.
No bears in the mediterranean island of Menorca. But we are proud of the brown bear population on the north-west of Spain.
All my life I did (and and I do) dream of visiting Montana and Wyoming.
Great story, thanks, I'll keep an eye on your work 👍🙏
Most definitely great choices. While you’re at it the badlands are worth a side jaunt.
@@majordeezee1659 I did visit the Badlands ....long ago! 👍
Love how at 0:45, she says "Four grizzly bears", and holds up three fingers. Too cute. :)
Bear 1: What a great opportunity to see a bear being a bear. How rare is it to have such an insight?
Bear 2: Looking down at the people on the trail and thinking "Naw, there's nothing down there I want to eat badly enough to walk all the way down there."
Bear 3: Lots of photographs of bears are too tight. They show lots of bear, but no context. I love that her photos show the setting around the bear as well.
Bear 4: People sometimes don't realize that bears don't want to expend energy any more than people do. They use trails just like we do. The bear obviously had no ill intent - it was just traveling to the berry patch.
Four bears in a couple of days -- stunning stuff. Thanks for sharing!
Good to see that you escaped unscathed, a fantastic encounter, I feel suitably jealous. Here in the UK the most dangerous animal, apart from humans, that you might encounter is a deer tick. A friend used to work as a park ranger in the middle of Australia and he sent me a letter saying that if a insect, spider or snake bite left you on your back for three days they described it as "non toxic". Obviously where the entire wildlife apart from the wombats, roos and koalas is determined to exterminate you, if you give it the slightest chance, your perspective of relative risk changes. As for me I will with my characteristic incredible bravery face the dangers of the mozzies and other biting insects in my local nature reserve in Dorset. Best Wishes.
I have watched three videos of this particular trail and ridge and in every single one of them the hikers came face to face with a grizzly. I can't believe this trail is a real place where this is allowed to occur. Seems like a disaster waiting to happen. The bears always seem to be right around a corner or right on the trail. Anyway thanks for sharing love the storytelling and imagery!
Love your video. What a great story👍 what time of the year did you go?
Late September! :)
Scary stuff , Glad all went well. Still you got some really nice images for sure. Beautiful area of the country. Remember of an incident in Wyoming when all they found of a hiker / photographer was his camera with pictures of a grizzly and her cubs. Also need to watch out for Mountain lions.
Thank you Donald! Yes... beautiful part of the country. I guess the chance of running into a grizzly is SO small. And somehow, it happened to me.
Epic landscapes and bears love it.
Thanks! 🐻🐻🐻
I live in Grizzly Country in Northern Alberta and it's always a joy to see a Grizzly, Black Bears not so much but I do enjoy the bears. Also, hitting rocks together does work at least the 2 times I used it! I spend much time looking for Grizzly Bears... Great stress relief is watching a Grizzly Bears...
really cool sightings
Do you usually handhold the Sigma 150-600? I’m so clumsy with tripods when hiking. The lens is heavy, but I find I like holding it best