They Gone Now.....Right? // 8 Cubes: A Marvel SNAP Show

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • Welcome to the 8 Cubes Show featuring KMBest and myself, two of the best Marvel SNAP players in the world. We run down the eight most important topics in SNAP, in 30 minutes or less!
    This episode we look at the latest big OTA and ponder to ourselves, is it done? Are they gone now? Or are they.....
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 72

  • @Eldast89
    @Eldast89 3 місяці тому +16

    Let's go! Love that this is a two part podcast. Appreciate your calm attitude Lamby, nice counterpart to KM 😎

  • @ryugami
    @ryugami 3 місяці тому +3

    I would also advocate win-rate tracking for the "play to win" mentality. Either with a deck tracker, spreadsheet, or piece of paper, keeping track of your wins rate will help ease tilting and provide a clearer picture of your performance. The best CCG players in the world, doesn't matter the game, have between a 55-60% win rate. That means even if you are the best player on the planet, you will still lose 4 of your 10 games. It makes it a lot easier to shrug a loss off as "Eh, that was one of my 4".
    I think its hard to approach an activity where you lose almost half the time without the expectation that you are supposed to be performing at that level.

  • @Slidemaster729
    @Slidemaster729 3 місяці тому +2

    I'm currently in the top 5-6k infinite and trying to work my way up higher, and the discourse about tilting, playing to win, and being honest about the mistakes you make have been great. It's honestly nice just hearing that some of the top players in the world still misplay and need to evaluate what they did after games.
    I like a lot of Marvel Snap content from a number of creators, but I feel like the most valuable information I get on how to be a better player consistently comes from the two of you. Keep up the Great work!

    • @exdee__
      @exdee__ 3 місяці тому

      What deck have you had the most succes with?

  • @surreal382
    @surreal382 3 місяці тому

    These level up moments at the end of videos are really great for anyone trying to develop a healthy relationship with a competitive hobby. Love that yall are talking about this. 🎉

  • @SHAWNJX
    @SHAWNJX 3 місяці тому

    Just hit infinite today just wanted to say thank you. I was desperate and tilled the last couple of days trying to break into infinite coming close with loki but dropping back down after a few loses. I changed my approach and used the meta zoo deck with tech like cosmo and alioth and ranked up easily 🙏🏾

  • @partialartist
    @partialartist 3 місяці тому +1

    With hela, all that really needs to be run is Luke cage to replace one card and then I feel as if the deck is the exact same as before.

    • @DuckTheHeel
      @DuckTheHeel 3 місяці тому +1

      She doesn’t really even need cage. Your wasting a slot to save 6 power on a 40 power play

    • @skitril
      @skitril 3 місяці тому +1

      Agree with this. They should also be decreasing her base power by 3-4

  • @Oenolicious
    @Oenolicious 3 місяці тому +2

    I am curious about both of your thoughts on mobile versus PC. I find myself being much more mindful of my play when I am on my PC than when I am on my phone. I feel it focuses me.

    • @412rayray
      @412rayray 3 місяці тому

      Is that because you’re using the tracker while on pc?

  • @Kaisingsens
    @Kaisingsens 3 місяці тому +6

    Hela got a tiny slap on the wrist powerwise but also got a buff with her only real counter in Prof X being unplayable trash now so ultimately Hela got a better position in the meta because now we have nothing real to counter her.

    • @smartpatrick8690
      @smartpatrick8690 3 місяці тому

      Eh, now you can realistically go bigger than her. Also if she's ever a problem they can affect the negative affliction further

    • @Michelangebro
      @Michelangebro 3 місяці тому

      Goose, Cosmo, Mystique on either of those, Alioth, Leech, Storm into Legion, etc. There's plenty of counters to Hela.

    • @skitril
      @skitril 3 місяці тому

      Why is her base power still so high? 6/2 or 6/3 with the power reduction to the cards revived seems more reasonable..

    • @skitril
      @skitril 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Michelangebro goose doesn't really counter Hela.. they will just play in the other two lanes.
      Cosmo is a 1/3 in most cases and only works if you have priority.
      Playing both of these really decreases your ability to win lanes with points

    • @Michelangebro
      @Michelangebro 3 місяці тому

      ​@@skitrilBecause when you're dropping 80+ power on the boars with your On Reveal effect, shaving 2 points off her base power will do nothing to tame her.

  • @fizzypeaches5611
    @fizzypeaches5611 3 місяці тому +1

    I really enjoyed the last segment

  • @furymonger5395
    @furymonger5395 3 місяці тому +3

    So happy to play phoenix force again. Feels like people forgot how to play against since I gained like 200 snap points in top 3k.

  • @OPGrimmz
    @OPGrimmz 3 місяці тому

    Though it wouldn’t affect the modok hela , but if they can do cards discarded cards lose two power every turn after being discarded , it would hit the timings in other ways . Not a perfect solution but can add to it .

  • @An.Unsought.Thought
    @An.Unsought.Thought 3 місяці тому

    I will stubbornly keep playing Prof X. I combo him with Kingpin so that people don't want to just move cards into the location. But I also like to use other control cards.. Like Stegron. Plus I can Grand Master the Stegron and knock their cards out of my middle lane Prof X.

  • @PranavanathanYoganathan
    @PranavanathanYoganathan 3 місяці тому

    There are interesting prof x move deck possibilities, just trying to nail down the best 12.

  • @KennyOmegaTBBM
    @KennyOmegaTBBM 3 місяці тому

    The only ppl I've seen say sersi is bad is Cozy and Alex Coccia.

  • @geoplays99
    @geoplays99 3 місяці тому +2

    Really needed that play to win discussion this week, thanks guys

  • @TheBlott2319
    @TheBlott2319 3 місяці тому

    Destroy is REALLY strong in this meta.

  • @412rayray
    @412rayray 3 місяці тому +4

    The Hela nerf does nothing to her. She’s going to be a meta tyrant again once people start playing her. I really hope SD is quick to turn that new dial

  • @NeroTheMana
    @NeroTheMana 3 місяці тому

    While I think they killed Alioth (Seriously how many do you see out in the wild other than that deck that has galactus, destroyer, knull, ultron) I think prof x is even more dead. (I think most people are celebrating) 5/2 to me is worst storm.
    Also not touched but now the the strat is dead the cannonball nerf seemed unneeded.
    I'm not really using Red Hulk anymore. Shang Chi has returned lol

  • @alexnicholson925
    @alexnicholson925 3 місяці тому +1

    As a f2p prof x cannonball was the only deck I could make that was remotely competitive. I’m just getting stomped every with whatever deck I try.
    No nocturne, no Loki, no ahnilius, no sersi, no hope summers, no thanos, no Gilgamesh, no shaw, no jean grey, no x23, no knull, no phoenix force,
    So what exactly am I supposed to play….
    Game is not winnable for me anymore.

    • @SHAWNJX
      @SHAWNJX 3 місяці тому

      Get good and drop and give me 50

  • @danielbarron3096
    @danielbarron3096 3 місяці тому

    Is sersi worth the keys / tokens is a tricky question tho…

  • @reikiv3
    @reikiv3 3 місяці тому

    I played 2hrs of hela tribe(the only fun one imo) on Friday, and it feels so bad now.

    • @412rayray
      @412rayray 3 місяці тому

      Good! The Hela being played the better. Unfortunately that’s the only version of the deck this “nerf” affected

    • @reikiv3
      @reikiv3 3 місяці тому

      @412rayray You're why people just having fun leave.

    • @412rayray
      @412rayray 3 місяці тому

      @@reikiv3 what? ESL?

    • @reikiv3
      @reikiv3 3 місяці тому

      @@412rayray I'm gonna assume you're trying to harass me. And tell ya to walk.

    • @412rayray
      @412rayray 3 місяці тому

      @@reikiv3 huh? I legitimately didn’t understand what you said. I asked if you were ESL so that maybe I could help decipher the point you’re trying to make

  • @GiffyPooh
    @GiffyPooh 3 місяці тому

    Da 🐐🐐s

  • @Xuhtig
    @Xuhtig 3 місяці тому

    They're*

  • @dwilson284
    @dwilson284 Місяць тому

    You guys don't understand internet or gambling addiction. If you actually care about the topic of your closing segment, you would refer to SAMHSA's national help line. If you're reading this and addicted to this game...get help.

  • @darylli7790
    @darylli7790 3 місяці тому +1

    I think Hela should have been a -1 instead of a -2. The game now lacks a cheap deck that can seriously compete.

    • @412rayray
      @412rayray 3 місяці тому

      She should’ve started as a -4, it still would’ve been competitive

    • @darylli7790
      @darylli7790 3 місяці тому

      @@412rayray Competitive up to infinite but nowhere else.

    • @SalemSetto
      @SalemSetto 3 місяці тому +1

      away with hela completely tbh

    • @412rayray
      @412rayray 3 місяці тому

      @@darylli7790 I see 0 issue with this. Post infinite climbs should be more skill based and not so heavily reliant on bs rng (my opinion obviously)

  • @DuckTheHeel
    @DuckTheHeel 3 місяці тому

    The Hela hate is cringe. They nerfed her - she can win. Losing to Hela is a skill issue

  • @Thunderkeg
    @Thunderkeg 3 місяці тому

    Balancing for "fun" instead of power is a trash philosophy for losers who think that their idea of fun is more correct/valid/fun than everyone else's. Statistical outliers should be the *only* metric worth balancing over.

    • @mnbdy
      @mnbdy 3 місяці тому +4

      bro its a game?

  • @Xuhtig
    @Xuhtig 3 місяці тому

    14:10
    Wrong. Same reason nocturne is mid is why sersi is bad. Cards that lose you the game can never be considered great.

    • @loopingmoon1444
      @loopingmoon1444 3 місяці тому +1

      I love the confidence in being wrong😊

  • @An.Unsought.Thought
    @An.Unsought.Thought 3 місяці тому

    Hot Take: Sersi should not trigger On Reveal abilities of cards she upgrades to. I think she would be FAR better.

  • @BojanglesJabberJack
    @BojanglesJabberJack 3 місяці тому

    Captain Jean-Luc Picard : It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life.

  • @Mordrek
    @Mordrek 3 місяці тому +1

    the other day sersi lost me a game by turning my hood into beast on turn 6 and then i was mad, but yeah 2/3 - 3/4 of the time she's upside and thus is a good card, ppl (myself included) tend to remember more the bad than the good, like i won many games with sersi but i couldn't rly tell you on top of my head what she turned into what when she won me the game where the beast example i used is vivid in my memory right now.

    • @fouzwerg
      @fouzwerg 3 місяці тому

      I love sersi fails. Best is deathlock

  • @brandonstreet2351
    @brandonstreet2351 3 місяці тому

    Staying against Hela when you are dead was one of her high points, I feel like this nerf actually buffs that aspect, not sure it was enough to get rid of her.

  • @AvrgWes
    @AvrgWes 3 місяці тому

    Another great video from two awesome folks!

  • @אוריאיזנברג-ס4ו
    @אוריאיזנברג-ס4ו 3 місяці тому

    Yheeee I've been waiting for this

  • @tristanjohnson2902
    @tristanjohnson2902 3 місяці тому

    Idk if Ota is good yet. I'm playing Prof x in annihilus with lds, and it's just able to handle every situation. Also, annihilus prof just sounds cancerous to boot...

  • @eco-enjoyer
    @eco-enjoyer 3 місяці тому +1

    Lost me with the 'play to win' segment. This is not a game to play competitively at all. This game plays us more than we play it (World Forge anyone?). Play to kill time and enjoy your fav cards. F the ladder.

    • @dariodavis56
      @dariodavis56 3 місяці тому +3

      I mean your perfectly valid in having that opinion but saying u shouldn't play this game competitively at all is silly

    • @eco-enjoyer
      @eco-enjoyer 3 місяці тому

      @@dariodavis56 Playing this game 'competitively' is silly. It's just a randomized game, lol.

    • @showdowns1917
      @showdowns1917 3 місяці тому +2

      ''Don't tell me how to engage with the game. Here, this is how you are supposed to engage with the game''. xd

    • @chanzijun5247
      @chanzijun5247 3 місяці тому +1

      They are not advocating playing to win is the ONLY approach to the game. Their main point is if someone SAYS they only care about playing fun decks, they should adjust their mentality to not be too upset with the decks' low win rate. If they care a lot about win rate, then they will be better off to be honest about it and choose meta decks / find their subjective sweet spot between win rate and fun.

    • @eco-enjoyer
      @eco-enjoyer 3 місяці тому

      @@showdowns1917 Just trying to help you become a happier person. Because it's obvious how happy you are with your reply. The "competitive" part of the game is getting the wrong rise out of you. It makes you angry. Play for fun, drop the toxic emotes, and life gets better.