nope. i’m literally at the bottom of the food chain and I get all of these benefits.. not for google i’m in the pharma world working in compliance thought I should add i’m
@@tristan6773 wow that's amazing. I guess there's some hope for me then. I'm planning to pursue the Data Analytics / Software Development certifications by Google / IBM. This is quite encouraging, thank you!
I’m a software eng. and it’s not as glamorous as it seems. The salary and lifestyle is fine but it’s so mentally strenuous and has no chill at times that it makes you want to become a Mormon farmer.
Extremely misleading. There is currently a large surplus of computer science graduates, especially for these big tech companies . The average software engineer acceptance rate is under 1%.. it’s easier to get into Harvard than any of these 200k+ tech companies, and unless your in the top 5-1% of software engineers you will not have a job anywhere as glamorous.
He's lying. I graduated with a bachelors and a masters in CS and 2 years part time Software Development experience. I didn't get a job for 4 months. No one was fighting to hire me and they only paid me 60K/year
Those kind of videos are the only reason I considered majoring in CS, the high salary. But funny they always never mention that the high salary is only the "best case scenario"
Straight up what I understand right now is. If you're right out of college. You'll likely have to settle with a startup or small company first and be making 65-70k compared to big companies paying 90-100k plus.
I’m a Junior working on my B.S in CS, located in Alabama, and honestly I’d rather $75k-$85k/yr right out of college here, and then work my way up within a few years; than to start out at $100k/yr in California or any of the bigger cities. I’d rather not have a $46k/yr cost of living just by myself somewhere else when I can live here in Alabama for $30k-$35k/yr. In the long run, I’ll be holding onto more of my assets every year by living down here in Birmingham AL. The high costs of living just outweigh the starting salaries anywhere else for me. I’m gonna start investing in real estate here in the Bham market around 2025-2026 (after this next recession is over), but I wish you all the best of luck!
I think Computer Science is slowly becoming like Mechanical Engineering in terms of both being versatile and hard to get an entry level job but still being a very marketable skill despite all that.
From life experience and everything I've learned over the years about job outlooks, etc.. Do electrical. You will always have that knowledge of the theory behind things and be very valuable. With computer engineering, you're going to have to dedicate a LOT of time keeping up to date with what's new. The market for anything computer related majors is going to be oversaturated very soon. That train has done already left the station. With any sort of economic downturn it will get a lot harder to find oportunities
What subjects are focused on in CS or subjects you need to be good at ik math is in there but is there any other,and is a CS degree good enough to earn you a decent paying job/career
@MikeProductions1000 honestly when you listed all those potential fields, I think that helped me lean towards electrical. Having the ability to almost do anything is awesome. Also, aerospace has been interesting me for some reason I have no idea why.
@@thepotato405 thank you bro, I appreciate that honestly. That is true, I feel like many people are already majoring in that field and I feel like even some have been coding since they were 6 years old. I got no chance against that. I want to build or design something. Coding is cool but maybe as a hobby or just a tool under my belt
Most of the people I graduated with made either low six-figure or very close like 90s first year, by 2 years in all of us are were at least upper six figures, and this is not even on the west coast. The friend making the most is 2 years experience with 380k/yr cash + stock options worth about about 100k/yr in Austin.
@@jasonmiller3011 by upper six figures I mean 160k+ cash comp with stock usually that means around 250k total comp.. 500k is obtainable at senior level, which generally takes around 7-10 years to reach, but I’ve seen extremely talented people reach it in just 5 years… a good friend of mine is making 380k cash + ~100k/year in stock and he only has 2.5 years of experience (Austin, TX), but he’s extremely talented and works at a level most people with only 2.5 years of experience do not work at.
You making it sound like it's easy and fact is even if you get this amount of money a lot of companies abuse progmers in the way that they have burnouts really fast
There's literally thousands of CS graduates every year in the US alone, and even more outside the US which can be a competition, you have to be insanely execeptional to even graze thise six figures job. And eventually the economy will realize how common that skills has became and then the salary will go down *hard*. It was the best degree to get if you graduate 20 years ago, nowadays it's a big gamble and risk
Lol. Average computer science graduates make the same as average engineering graduates. But because supply of CS degrees is becoming insane, this will shift CS salaries lower on average (and therefore below engineering because there is always a need for engineers). History still has engineers as making the most long-run money (since CS is new) and this may be the case on average still for the average in CS vs Engineering
Oh and don't forget the increased burnout in CS. If you think about it, you're just a smart blue-collar worker who is working for productivity based on other peoples' decision-making.
The thing that I hate is that everybody is saying how much money you can make but they are not saying anything about the taxes in those states or if that 200k - 300k a year are taxed or you can use that money
Yea you can. Im a mechanical engineering student and most of my friends are graduating with 75-90k starting salary, on track to 100+ in 2 years. C.S majors in cybersecurity, software engineering, or systems architecture will make much more than us. A friend of mine got his first job as a software engineer at Meta and started off making 190k salary before benefits/stocks/bonus
@@flying_salt yes, farming is not like what it used to be anymore it’s not the 1800’s thanks to these guys working in this boring job developing technology. So yeah IoT in farming is a thing, if you choose to do so.
While yes this is true (or i should say until 5 years ago was true) everyone else knows it's true. The amount of CS majors going through the pipeline is absolutely insane. Over a quarter of the kids at my university are there for CS and its not even a tech uni. There have been allot of rumblings lately that the job market is starting to show signs of buckling under the oversaturation. It was good if you got on the bandwagon early but it may be coming to its destination soon
@MikeProductions1000I'm a junior at my skl rn and when o graduate I'm looking at going into information tech or data analytics idk how much they pay but I'm not looking at becoming rich straight out of uni but a job that i won't struggle finding and pays well
Don't focus about the future. Focus on your academics first in college, pass your 2nd year, on to the next year, focus on 3rd year then focus on 4th year. Then talk about this. Ill tell you. Yes its bad. The job market is competitive. You are likely to start at helpdesk or support job. That's just the reality. You wont get into software dev or security at the first 5 years, you also wont get 6 figure salary right away. Its about experience and skills. Tho your degree will help. Finish your college, go on internships, maybe take some certs, be experienced, and it'll come.@@MiXDuDeZzTvSubhanZainBilal
You will struggle finding one. Tech jobs are so competitive and bad right now. Prepare to apply on 1000 companies and prepare to get rejected but don't give up. Also participate on internships. @@Billyyezzur
Nah, bro, those $2-300k right out of college days are over. I have a CS degree, and I have years of experience. Ain't nobody hiring anyone fresh out of college for that much.
Honestly, if you haven't already, look at job postings and see what they ask. It will focus your attention to what you like and don't like. It will also allow you to understand what skills you need, want to learn, or/and are in demand.
This is before the big layoffs and the tech recession. But yeah, there is such an oversupply of CS majors, that now average CS graduates will be less than average Engineering graduates because there will always be a need for engineers. And you can even be an engineer at FAANG if you wanted (and self-teach programming if you really want software). High level tech and engineering at FAANG will still pay much higher than average.
I want to know if this is Generally real or is it just for the a small portion of graduates in Computer Science. Seriously this look like a dream ! But I guess it would take A LOT of effort to achieve. (I know I’ll get no answers, just talking to myself again 🙃)
This only applies in the US and for certain cities (like SF and the rest of the bay) but definitely doable for regular folks like me and you. The industry is boomin right now, there is no better time to get in
Generally Real. But the job market in tech is so bad. Its so competitive, high demand and rare ones are the chosen one. Prepare to apply on 1000 companies. Its all about experience. Don't expect to have a 6 figure salary after graduating. Even a CS graduate starts at Helpdesk and Support jobs before going into software devs.
Meanwhile here I am a busting my balls ⚽️ ⚽️ truck driving in the stressful ports in the middle of a blizzard 🌨 🥶 Seriously considering a career change
Bro is AI engineering in demand in google because i am interested in studying computer science and choosing AI engineering. So, can a AI engineer be employed in Google company
@@spectre5982IT specializes in fixing and maintaining computers. Computer Scientists are the ones who create the software. So computer scientists definitely make more
IT is easier, combines both hardware and software and has math. CS is harder because its solely software development and is very very math heavy. Pick one you like.
The school matters, don't let anyone tell you otherwise because he's trying to gaslight you. In a big tech company one friend of mine recommended one of his friends to his employer and the employer didn't even want to see his friend's resume because he wasn't from a top tech school
@@gamera7206Yeah so on the other side of this. When looking for employees, experience and knowledge matter way more to us then what school you went to. What school you went to doesn’t make or break your chances
first
This is the best case scenario. The key is be a great software developer and not an average one.
That applies to literally every job in the world
nope. i’m literally at the bottom of the food chain and I get all of these benefits..
not for google
i’m in the pharma world working in compliance
thought I should add i’m
@@tristan6773 wow that's amazing. I guess there's some hope for me then. I'm planning to pursue the Data Analytics / Software Development certifications by Google / IBM. This is quite encouraging, thank you!
Honestly? You can be pretty average. If you can grind leetcode you can get a big N job and crack 200k.
Chat gpt will steal every overpaid IT jobs
He failed to mention that getting a job at Google is 10 times more difficult than getting accepted into Harvard
😭😭😭
Naah frr???
thats not quite right
Wait till he finds out what the cost of living does to your 6 figure salary in SF.
Tbf if youre going to live in SF for your job its almost never permanent
Live in your car for a whole year with that salary
its not that big of a difference
@@danialkamran7280 if it doesnt get broken into in SF
@@alexanderhall5702 Corporate employee only parking lot is the way to go. Shower and change clothes at the gym.
I’m a software eng. and it’s not as glamorous as it seems. The salary and lifestyle is fine but it’s so mentally strenuous and has no chill at times that it makes you want to become a Mormon farmer.
how did you become one? what college did you go to? what’s your major? how did you get a job?
still better than working construction
AI gonna automate lots of Software development tasks
Also these jobs were over hyped in COVID period
Now they are facing huge recession
the fact they give you this type of entertainment during workd so you can spend more hours inside the company
Hahaha agree, I am pivoting from architecture... self taught learner and my social life is nothing 🤣
Extremely misleading. There is currently a large surplus of computer science graduates, especially for these big tech companies . The average software engineer acceptance rate is under 1%.. it’s easier to get into Harvard than any of these 200k+ tech companies, and unless your in the top 5-1% of software engineers you will not have a job anywhere as glamorous.
This.
I wish he would stop spreading pop shit like this.
He's lying. I graduated with a bachelors and a masters in CS and 2 years part time Software Development experience. I didn't get a job for 4 months. No one was fighting to hire me and they only paid me 60K/year
They fcked u real good tho
What school though? If you got your degree from a top 10 school, you should be good
only?
Bro that’s a good entry level pay 😭
@@tstone9151 naahhh I went to a college in South Florida
They get paid well because the problems that they solve are really hard and about big cities the cost of living is very higher than a normal place
Why does this guy keep on fanboying for majoring in computer science, computer science is wayyy too saturated.
He’s the reason I chose this as a senior in high school and now I regret it 😂😂😂😂😂
And this is why tonnes of people are loosing their jobs cos people think they can just join big tech companies and work like this without consequences
*good software developers are making six figures
Those kind of videos are the only reason I considered majoring in CS, the high salary. But funny they always never mention that the high salary is only the "best case scenario"
Straight up what I understand right now is. If you're right out of college. You'll likely have to settle with a startup or small company first and be making 65-70k compared to big companies paying 90-100k plus.
I’m a Junior working on my B.S in CS, located in Alabama, and honestly I’d rather $75k-$85k/yr right out of college here, and then work my way up within a few years; than to start out at $100k/yr in California or any of the bigger cities. I’d rather not have a $46k/yr cost of living just by myself somewhere else when I can live here in Alabama for $30k-$35k/yr. In the long run, I’ll be holding onto more of my assets every year by living down here in Birmingham AL. The high costs of living just outweigh the starting salaries anywhere else for me. I’m gonna start investing in real estate here in the Bham market around 2025-2026 (after this next recession is over), but I wish you all the best of luck!
It might be a little difficult getting a job straight out of school right now but you will get one eventually
I think Computer Science is slowly becoming like Mechanical Engineering in terms of both being versatile and hard to get an entry level job but still being a very marketable skill despite all that.
Man I’m stuck between this and electrical and computer engineering. But I heard it’s just better to do the last 2 mentioned and self teach programming
Dude same im so stuck XD
From life experience and everything I've learned over the years about job outlooks, etc..
Do electrical. You will always have that knowledge of the theory behind things and be very valuable. With computer engineering, you're going to have to dedicate a LOT of time keeping up to date with what's new. The market for anything computer related majors is going to be oversaturated very soon. That train has done already left the station. With any sort of economic downturn it will get a lot harder to find oportunities
What subjects are focused on in CS or subjects you need to be good at ik math is in there but is there any other,and is a CS degree good enough to earn you a decent paying job/career
@MikeProductions1000 honestly when you listed all those potential fields, I think that helped me lean towards electrical. Having the ability to almost do anything is awesome. Also, aerospace has been interesting me for some reason I have no idea why.
@@thepotato405 thank you bro, I appreciate that honestly. That is true, I feel like many people are already majoring in that field and I feel like even some have been coding since they were 6 years old. I got no chance against that. I want to build or design something. Coding is cool but maybe as a hobby or just a tool under my belt
I just want a simple life lol. The money is what i need as well as that type of job.
Most of the people I graduated with made either low six-figure or very close like 90s first year, by 2 years in all of us are were at least upper six figures, and this is not even on the west coast. The friend making the most is 2 years experience with 380k/yr cash + stock options worth about about 100k/yr in Austin.
Hey man thanks for ur comment . I am in high school. By upper 6 figures u mean 500k+ ?
@@jasonmiller3011 by upper six figures I mean 160k+ cash comp with stock usually that means around 250k total comp.. 500k is obtainable at senior level, which generally takes around 7-10 years to reach, but I’ve seen extremely talented people reach it in just 5 years… a good friend of mine is making 380k cash + ~100k/year in stock and he only has 2.5 years of experience (Austin, TX), but he’s extremely talented and works at a level most people with only 2.5 years of experience do not work at.
@@briandyck8828 thanks man for reply
what the actual fuck damn
@@sab7591 what? Lol
You making it sound like it's easy and fact is even if you get this amount of money a lot of companies abuse progmers in the way that they have burnouts really fast
He is being sarcastic I think
There's literally thousands of CS graduates every year in the US alone, and even more outside the US which can be a competition, you have to be insanely execeptional to even graze thise six figures job. And eventually the economy will realize how common that skills has became and then the salary will go down *hard*. It was the best degree to get if you graduate 20 years ago, nowadays it's a big gamble and risk
what degree isn’t a gamble or risk? i’m genuinely asking as I want to know what to go into
@@fjxs The degree that has good future growth and small amount of competition to ensure you can Excel at it imo
@@floatytrouty bro didn’t answer the question.
@@fjxs How did that not answer the question
@@floatytrouty “what degree” proceeds to not say a degree.
Every stem major makes 6 figures. That's not the standard nowadays 😊
This use of easily exposes how far he is from being a technical
Lol. Average computer science graduates make the same as average engineering graduates. But because supply of CS degrees is becoming insane, this will shift CS salaries lower on average (and therefore below engineering because there is always a need for engineers). History still has engineers as making the most long-run money (since CS is new) and this may be the case on average still for the average in CS vs Engineering
Oh and don't forget the increased burnout in CS. If you think about it, you're just a smart blue-collar worker who is working for productivity based on other peoples' decision-making.
Fight tooth and nail to hire you????? People are sending out literally hundreds of applications before they get an offer
The thing that I hate is that everybody is saying how much money you can make but they are not saying anything about the taxes in those states or if that 200k - 300k a year are taxed or you can use that money
He said you could make 6 figures straight out of college within in a few years, wait what, haha
It's true, you can check out his playlist and interviews with people who have done the same thing. I'm also trying to get into Tech Sales
@@kenneth.bananola696how is it going bro
Yea you can. Im a mechanical engineering student and most of my friends are graduating with 75-90k starting salary, on track to 100+ in 2 years. C.S majors in cybersecurity, software engineering, or systems architecture will make much more than us.
A friend of mine got his first job as a software engineer at Meta and started off making 190k salary before benefits/stocks/bonus
@@samo6401 does being an information technology major give u the same benefits as a computer science major
@@samo6401Meta is like the epitome of a sad place to work, it’s like selling your soul
Not right now tho lol 😂
Yes good money, but boring as hell, hours just sitting on a computer
would you rather spend those hours in a corn field?
@@flying_salt yes, farming is not like what it used to be anymore it’s not the 1800’s thanks to these guys working in this boring job developing technology. So yeah IoT in farming is a thing, if you choose to do so.
@@flying_salt lol sounds like very racist buddy 😑
@@flying_salt they would both suck
Our human bodies were not made to be sitting for multiple hours straight
which is better software engineering, cyber security or AI in practicle feild bcz i don't want simple office work In Future!
Thing is if I’m willing to move to SF or Seattle right now I’ll have enough money to live in a tent for a few years assuming I get a raise. 🤣
While yes this is true (or i should say until 5 years ago was true) everyone else knows it's true. The amount of CS majors going through the pipeline is absolutely insane. Over a quarter of the kids at my university are there for CS and its not even a tech uni. There have been allot of rumblings lately that the job market is starting to show signs of buckling under the oversaturation.
It was good if you got on the bandwagon early but it may be coming to its destination soon
Is that bad news for students pursuing CS currently? (I’m currently in 2nd year)
@MikeProductions1000I'm a junior at my skl rn and when o graduate I'm looking at going into information tech or data analytics idk how much they pay but I'm not looking at becoming rich straight out of uni but a job that i won't struggle finding and pays well
Don't focus about the future. Focus on your academics first in college, pass your 2nd year, on to the next year, focus on 3rd year then focus on 4th year. Then talk about this.
Ill tell you. Yes its bad. The job market is competitive. You are likely to start at helpdesk or support job. That's just the reality. You wont get into software dev or security at the first 5 years, you also wont get 6 figure salary right away. Its about experience and skills.
Tho your degree will help. Finish your college, go on internships, maybe take some certs, be experienced, and it'll come.@@MiXDuDeZzTvSubhanZainBilal
You will struggle finding one. Tech jobs are so competitive and bad right now. Prepare to apply on 1000 companies and prepare to get rejected but don't give up. Also participate on internships. @@Billyyezzur
But what about the recent layoffs
Financed by Google
Unfortunately I am bad at programming
nothing you can’t learn, my friend
y just a glorified applied math degree
@@cameronh8745 Horrible take dude holy
@@cameronh8745following your logic that means a math degree isn't applied, in other words worthless, like a physics degree to engineering.
Tch Tch Tch . How they butter you up for failure . We need more reality checks
Nah, bro, those $2-300k right out of college days are over. I have a CS degree, and I have years of experience. Ain't nobody hiring anyone fresh out of college for that much.
Goals
Not easily look at the living costs thos video is hyped
What you are not saying is that it is not a piece of cake to get into companies like Google.
But not everyone has the skills nor the desire to be a software developer.
That’s generally why you don’t become a software developer
Save
False hope giver. Bro has no idea about anything.
Computer science is not software development
O have 3 words for u, outsource to India
i study science in high school but unfavourable circumstance i am doing my bachlor in business study what should i make my career is still unknow
yeah me2 i am studying sc and i looking forward to studying bussiness in uni
Honestly, if you haven't already, look at job postings and see what they ask. It will focus your attention to what you like and don't like. It will also allow you to understand what skills you need, want to learn, or/and are in demand.
For Real?
This is before the big layoffs and the tech recession. But yeah, there is such an oversupply of CS majors, that now average CS graduates will be less than average Engineering graduates because there will always be a need for engineers. And you can even be an engineer at FAANG if you wanted (and self-teach programming if you really want software). High level tech and engineering at FAANG will still pay much higher than average.
Golden cufs f that
but at what cost?
Most likely your sanity
I don’t know because AI is changing things
AI still cant do alot of stuff
AI wouldn't exist without computer science
Uhmm AI exist because CS Graduates are the one who's making them loool
@@Betelgeuse2142 it will progress in 2 years
I want to know if this is Generally real or is it just for the a small portion of graduates in Computer Science. Seriously this look like a dream ! But I guess it would take A LOT of effort to achieve. (I know I’ll get no answers, just talking to myself again 🙃)
This is a small portion. People who command those salaries work for big tech companies in big tech hubs. Those jobs are hard to get.
This only applies in the US and for certain cities (like SF and the rest of the bay) but definitely doable for regular folks like me and you. The industry is boomin right now, there is no better time to get in
These jobs are hard to get out of college, but swe can still make a lot in contrast to the us median salary
Generally Real. But the job market in tech is so bad. Its so competitive, high demand and rare ones are the chosen one. Prepare to apply on 1000 companies.
Its all about experience. Don't expect to have a 6 figure salary after graduating. Even a CS graduate starts at Helpdesk and Support jobs before going into software devs.
This is just delusional lmao
Chat gpt will steal all the highly overpaid IT jobs
Doubt it
How?
you do know chat gpt and AI's exist because of IT jobs and CS jobs right??
My bf just moved to Seattle and is making 250k with approx. 2 years experience, on the other hand it'll take me 10 years to get to where he is now.
Why is that?
@@emerymontrue short answer is bc I didn't major in CS, he did.
@@oliviacalton8477 If you don't mind me asking what do you do?
Save up money
Cause comp science is already become over saturated
Starting a Computer Science major in January. Can I get a "$" in the chat?
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Same
Meanwhile here I am a busting my balls ⚽️ ⚽️ truck driving in the stressful ports in the middle of a blizzard 🌨 🥶
Seriously considering a career change
It’s late
Comp science is over saturated and salaries will go down
@@Zyrock You’re right .. I think I’d rather just start my own business
@@PeaceNinja007 you prob can still do it, like accelerated program, but just wouldn’t be surprised if salaries dip
@@Zyrock Na it’s cool .. I don’t even want to do it anymore
Computer science vs cyber security what is the difference
Cyber bullying
Is this obtainable if I'm a mis major? Or do I most likely need a minor in CS?
Just learn programming and get projects under your belt, research the company and maybe get certs if you don’t have a CS degree
It is if you're gonna learn about it outside school. I graduated MIS but right now im a senior dev working like a CS Graduate.
This sounds like such a privileged lifestyle
Bro is AI engineering in demand in google because i am interested in studying computer science and choosing AI engineering. So, can a AI engineer be employed in Google company
Yea but you’ll need at least a masters or phd in cs
Does anyone know which make more and easier: computer science or IT
Cs.
@@thefrenchwolfe6809 but, like why though? isn’t IT an branch off Cs?
@@spectre5982IT specializes in fixing and maintaining computers. Computer Scientists are the ones who create the software. So computer scientists definitely make more
IT is easier, combines both hardware and software and has math.
CS is harder because its solely software development and is very very math heavy.
Pick one you like.
Both are branch of technology. But theyre both different. CS is under math, tech and science field. While IT is purely Tech.@@spectre5982
Seattle sucks arss 😂
You look good
Chatgpt?
Who coded chatgpt
@-p2349 that’s a valid point my guy 😂😂😂
They give you yoga or some gimmick like that. Then work you to the bone bruh
False. You will never have time to enjoy
If u have a salary u ar not rich
Does it matter the school or the lever of degree, like , masters of phd ?
Bachelors for most places
No.
The school matters, don't let anyone tell you otherwise because he's trying to gaslight you. In a big tech company one friend of mine recommended one of his friends to his employer and the employer didn't even want to see his friend's resume because he wasn't from a top tech school
@@gamera7206Yeah so on the other side of this. When looking for employees, experience and knowledge matter way more to us then what school you went to. What school you went to doesn’t make or break your chances
@@saveit4519 yeah ofc but we're talking about right out of school jobs or internships while attending the school
300000$ ...
um still searching for a job that offers 1000$ per month 💔🥲
Its not like you live in the US tho loool