IDRIVEACLASSIC reviews: Peugeot 205 (Roland Garros edition)
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2021
- Today's video is on the Peugeot 205 and we've got the Roland Garros special edition to brighten up your Sunday!
Today's video is sponsored by Adrian Flux
If you're hard of hearing, the walk around text is below
The Peugeot 205 is definitely a classic - it’s a car which definitely doesn’t fit that mid century, chrome bumper stereotype classic but is definitely one of those cars which even non car people think of when they think of the 80s/90s heyday of hot hatches.
From first car memories to the car your family member or neighbour drove and you secretly wished was yours; the 205 was even only a few years ago, a cheaper starter classic, but is now commanding prices which mean even a project is a considered purchase.
But unlike many of the coveted classics you get in and realise are just a romanticised hype, the 205 feels far more promising even it’s provenance.
It was made from 1983 to 1998 and was not only crowned car of the decade by Car Magazine in 1990, it also won What Car’s car of the year in 1984 - a mere 12 months after launch.
The 205 was an interesting change of tune for Peugeot. As discussed in the Citroen video, Peugeot was the sensible older brother and really did the whole big saloon thing very well and even though they had the smaller 104, it wasn’t a patch on the 205 for the memorability and iconic status.
But as we talked about when we did the Peugeot video last year, Peugeot in the late 70s took over Chrysler’s European division which meant that they then had the expertise to create a super mini to be reckoned with and as soon as the takeover was complete, they began the plan for the 205.
Earlier cars used the X engine which had been used in the 104, but as production continued they moved over to the TU series.
Look, there is so much to say on these 205s so to try and cover the history in one video feels like I’m underselling it, so I thought I’d tell you a little more about the special edition we’re testing today - or we’ll be here all day!
So this car is a later 205 and therefore has the TU engine in and the engine we’re testing today is standard and is the 1360cc and is a manual 5 speed - which I believe was the only option, or certainly the only option listed on the brochure for this Roland Garros special edition.
The fuel consumption, when driven sensibly which is almost impossible to do in a 205, is not too dissimilar to the Sunny we took out last week.
We are predicted when driving at around 56mph to be achieving 54 miles per gallon, 40 miles per gallon at 75 miles per hour and around town is about 32.8 miles per gallon.
The speeds given sound a bit strange until of course you factor in that tests were done in kilometres and it’s been converted into miles per hour for the UK brochure I’ve got handy.
Whilst the fuel consumption is the better end of average for the era, the speed is where you start to see the fun in these 205s. We’re promised a rather hair raising 110 miles per hour and a 0 to 60 of 10.6 seconds.
The suspension is independent to front using MacPherson struts with anti-roll bar and hydraulic shock absorbers and to the rear, it’s independent of course, using trailing arms with torsion bars and anti-roll bar.
Brakes on this are split circuit with pressure limiting valve and it is disc at front, drum at rear and servo assisted.
These special editions seemed to have everything as standard, including the sun roof and the now upgraded stereo, which at the time would’ve been a digital stereo/radio stereo cassette with four speakers.
The Roland Garros special edition was far more commonplace on the continent but there were only 150 right hand drive models ever made - making this a super rare example for the channel.
Roland Garros was one of the most famous early French aviators, who also lent his name to the stadium in Paris which is home to the French open championships, the French equivalent of Wimbledon.
Like Wimbledon, the French Open is a highly regarded summer event and a place everyone who is everyone wants to attend and be seen to be attending and it was this feeling of attainment that Peugeot wanted to emulate with the special edition
The interior and finish is so different to your standard 205 and the body is finished in metallic green found nowhere else in the Peugeot range and the special colour scheme was carried through, as you’ll see on the walk around today, with the front and rear bumpers and front and rear lower panels and tail gate panel.
It was also sold with dished alloys as standard and double pinstripe coach lines to add a bit of pizazz, or as the marketing material says, a touch of refined style.
The interior is special too and you’ll note the leather and cloth seats are made to the high standard they claim, because despite high mileage, they still look in reasonably fine condition.
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Steph you put so much *time* and hard *work* in those videos while i struggle to find energy and motivation for every single task during the last months. Your /POSITIVE VIBES/ are well appreciated. Thx 🌈🌻🌟
Agreed. Steph is the best! She really makes informative and fun videos. I always lean a lot!
My fathers last car before he passed away was 205 gti 1,6❤️
😍🍀Uh that tasty GREEN! And the wheels... everything is so very '90s. Love, love, love it!💚
I remember sitting in one of these as a kid, brand new and on display in our local Peugeot dealership showroom around 1989! I loved the colour combinations even then and the new car smell. My parents bought a used 309, although years later I had a 205 GTX which I loved!
I’ve got the convertible version (in pieces!) in my garage!
There were 450 hard tops and 150 cabrios in RHD, so still pretty rare, and not many of them left now (especially the cabrio).
I remember driving an 1984 205 diesel in 1986 The performance was outstandingly good for that era, together with the fuel consumption figures!
I drove a 1985 205 diesel in 1996. The roof lining was gone, passenger side window winder was broken, steering rack had dangerous play and it was so much marking its territory that I had to top up oil and then check diesel level. Not only the XUD engine was very frugal, it was one of the toughest in a small car, I got it fired up at -15 degrees.
The XUD7 turbo was seriously quick
What a lovely car! A friend at Uni had a 205 GTI 1990 with 130 hp! That was really fast! Once in the snowy winter he said I could take it to a lecture and I stupidly accepted! Low profile summer tyres and snow is not a good combination, drove so carefully being terrified of crashing the car!
I had a ‘93 205 Si in Australia- 1.6 4 speed auto with AC - great car to drive with power steer and soaked up our brittle road surfaces with aplomb despite rear torsion beam - build quality wasn’t great as flimsy plastics and lots of rattles and performance on 91RON unleaded not great yet despite b pillar stress cracks these cars were the closest thing to an Alfasud for the ‘90s 👍
To think new drivers today don't even consider anything like this and pay monthly for a bloated box with an aux input
This probably has an AUX input. LOL. Even as original.
Aux input? How old school, its bluetooth everything now 😁
@@pit_stop77 Yeah aux was commonplase in early/mid 90's before CD became standard in cars then for some reason they stopped putting them in.
@@pit_stop77 I thought it was all about the smartphone mirroring now😫😂
@@rimmersbryggeri both my 2008 Ford and 2011 Volvo have AUX input. Very conveniently coupled to an aftermarket Bluetooth receiver but an AUX input none the less.
I had a 205 GTi and a 1.4 - The 1.4 broke down at the side of the road on my way to pick up another car about 15 years ago, some random nice chap drove me the rest of the way so I just gave him the 205 as thanks, as I was pretty much just getting scrap value as a trade in. He obviously got it running, as it was still on the road up until three years ago! Still have a big soft spot for them, but finding a decent one these days is not easy. Also astoundingly easy to break in to, as I found out when I locked myself out and managed to quickly get in with no tools!
Brilliant cars. Drove them for over 15 years. Incredibly relaxed steering, even on the motorway for hours and hours. Better than many bigger cars.
Watching from Australia. Just started the video. This one's going to be a winner.
Lovely little car! The 205 is probably the best car of that class ever made, in my eyes anyway. It doesn't leave any boxes unticked.
renault 5
205 is a beautiful car from a design aesthetic. Full of charm too 😊
Aww my late mum had a few 205s in her days as a District Nurse, takes me back. 'rev counters proper push me over the edge' I laughed very loudly at that! Great vid for a Sunday morning x
The TU5 renamed EC5 is still in production.
It's used in the Peugeot 301 and Citroën C-Elysée
We haven't gotten Peugeots here in several decades, so I didn't learn about the 205 until later (found some old CAR magazine in my closet from the last owner and I think LJK Setright was waxing poetic about it). I thought that it was a handsome car, especially from the 80's, a time I didn't much like styling wise. That example looks stunning; I wish I could drive it! I also remember seeing a green Peugeot 306 three door while doing some fieldwork in Italy; I remember thinking that it was a subtly attractive car, and after a month I lamented that I couldn't get one back home in America. Peugeot has styled some gorgeous cars through the years, such that I wish Setright was still around to write about them.
My favourite car in the world our family have so much history with a 205. They make me so happy and i feel closer to my grandma when I sit in one, that's why I'll always have one in my life.
To imagine I could have bought a Roland Garros when I was shopping for a new car a few years back, if only I knew what these really were!
I still have a 1985 spanish-built GT, with the old 1442cc Simca engine and bonnet bulge to fit the taller engine. 96.000km on the clock. It is so much fun to drive! Even if it is a bit nose-heavy, because the Simca engine is heavier that the TUs.
I remember the commercial for this. It was talking about the colours being derived from the colours you would see in the roland garros stadium. The red from the gravel etc.
Love it! I’ve always wanted a 250 Roland Garros. I had a 206 Roland Garros and it was great. I had one of the immobilisers that this had on one of my cars 😃
Nice rare version of a car that "saved" Peugeot. Yet disappearing fast from our Dutch roads. 5speed is excellent and saving petrol
Drove once a Citroen Visa 14TRS. Fast and Nice cars
With good roadholding and
comfortabele. Motor will take
many miles more.
Absolutely adore this channel. Keep up the good work!!
I remember as a kid, a member of staff in the kids home had one. A 205 Style, she actually didn’t like it. She loved the way it looked, but much preferred her Nissan Micra. She traded it in in less than a year. I drove a 205 CTi back in 2001, other had one.
Peugeot spent really much attention to details. I love that. The 306 and 806 came as a "Eden Park" which had interesting headrests.
205 was a saviour for Peugeot,still looks crisp and modern and you still see the odd one on the road,just like the 106 and 405 too!Keep it up Steph,Enjoy your videos immensly
Peugeot got it absolutely right with the 205 , it looks better than most small cars today.
My Auntie had a 205 as her first car in the mid nineties when she learned to drive at the age of 46. It was a 1.0 XE. The most basic model they did. It didn’t even have head rests! But that little car took us from Portsmouth to Newcastle a few times and she would commute to London in it constantly. It was a bullet proof and very comfortable little car.
My first car was a 205 and my second car was 205 1.9 Gti. Great little cars!
My uncle had one of these brand new back in the day. Beautiful small car, so well equipped and comfortable, I loved the colour. Fantastic to see this one. He later had a 206 Roland Garros. Thanks for brining back happy memories of times past. Great review as always Steph
Love my 205. Not been without a 205 GTi since the early 90s. love your reviews x
I love the way you roll through the gears on this car the gear shift and exhaust note sound superb keep it up love the hot hatch segments that you do
Another great review Steph. I love the 205.
I'm actually crying, I love these cars so much and my last one was a miami blue gti and it was stolen and crashed then scraped. It destroyed me, it was my forever car and ill never get another because there to expensive. I'm broken with out one. Might be silly feeling like this but every one has their car that they love and don't want anything else, well this is my one. Upsets not the word. It makes me feel complete, happy. Now it makes me feel like crap. Miss you car.
Cracking review Steph, you are right, my mum and dads neighbour had a diesel 205 which he used for his job as a courier.
I've got a 1.4 205 as pretty much a daily driver. It's the third 205 I've owned since 2005. I've been driving for 45 years and have owned and driven dozens of cars. I can't think of anything I'd rather have for my purposes. There's still a fair number on the road where I live. They don't rust and, as you say, they're pretty easy to get spares for; not that I've ever needed many.
Thanks for the video Stef.
I always liked the 205. One of my favourite European cars. And, you nailed you review again Steph. I'm always in awe of your knowledge, enthusiasm and brilliant presenting style. Get yourself on the TV and reach out to the many people who can't see the internet!
The 205 is by far the prettiest designs ever. Period. Such an simple yet elegant and coherent styling exercise. Fabulous video Steph!
Great cars! A friend had a Roland Garros Edition a few years ago. Very informative video!
Gotta hand it to you Steph. You do get the best cars! The ones that we all have memories of.
Keep doing what you do x.
I owned 2 of them, one with Simca engine and the other with TU and they were both reliable and economical. The seats are great and the steering and handling are on another level. The only thing close on steering would have been the Metro and the Rover Mini.
This Roland Garros was like a baby executive car inside. So glad that you liked it Steph. I would have another tomorrow without hesitation. Great video and you drove it the way it was meant to be driven, fast. Excellent.
Metro probably beats it for steering feel, (as well as interior space), but the little Pug beats Metro in most other respects
For context.
I was a a child at the time this launched…I remember the first few years they were made.
I was just old enough to get the impression this was a “new’ model….and was ahead of things like the Ford fiesta….even the re-modelled mk2. More refined, more modern…..and more expensive….although it was a small European car, it was somewhat aspirational for a while. I knew the higher prices of the 1.4 would make it unaffordable for a while.
The only 205 for sale here in Au today is a 1994 205 GTi Classic Manual with 112,000 miles.
They want £20,000 for it.. 🥺 It's #9 of 30 apparently.
I saw that too. Could have picked them up for 10 grand in the early 2000s. And all the 306 GTI6s seem to have been quietly stashed away somewhere... soon to appear for 30K+ plus no doubt.
Where are you ?
@@julienbee3467 Au
@@CathodeRayNipplez there's still many 205 in France. I love the Indiana, Roland Garros, XS and Gentry
They were good cars. Never owned one myself but I did drive a friend's 205GT a few times in the 1990s. My first car was a Renault 5.
“Pocket of space” makes me laugh - you mean compartment? Really nice review and car Steph.
Great review Steph, thoroughly enjoyed it. I worked with a Peugeot dealership for 15 years from 1987 onwards and the 205 was an extremely popular car. I never owned one (I preferred the larger Peugeot’s) but my dad owned 3 diesel ones. The TU series engine was introduced to the 205 in late 1987 (the AX was the first car it was fitted to, in 1986) in time for the ‘88 model year, replacing the old laid back ‘suitcase’ Douvrin engines which had been carried over from the 104. At the same time the new dashboard was introduced and we could tell without even looking under the bonnet (if it was a Petrol car) what series of engine it would be. The 205 was on sale in the UK until 1996, a remarkable 12/13 years, unthinkable today. I really would love one now, we had some great times working with these back then.
Great memories of the 205. My Mum owned one at the time I passed my test in 1992. So it was the first car I drove on a regular basis. My first solo drive was in a 205 so it holds a special place for me! I remember it being a lovely little car. So easy to drive but with character. And I've always loved the styling, especially the rear. It's on my list of cars I'd love to own together with the Allegro, Citroen CX, Opel Monza and Saab 900. Maybe one day 😂
I must have had about ten 205s back in the day, one after another, all diesels except a 1.9GTi, a CTi and a Roland Garros cabriolet. They were as cheap as chips and I drove them all into the ground until they went for scrap. Shame really, looking back; they were great little cars.
Hi Steph. I have been waiting sooo long for you to drive a 205. I used to work for peugeot in the 90's and had one as a demo. FYI the card on the chain going into the dashboard is a factory add on immobiliser. That was an absolutely fantastic presented video. They were so driveable and you could chuck them them around. The 1.4 was the pick of the bunch. Quick enough to get out of trouble and have some fun without the need for a licence loser the GTI.
Gotta love the different versions Peugeot did back then that even though sometimes they weren't more than just a color scheme or different interior.
Never drove the 205 but i own the big brother 309 and its so amazing to drive as well (gear change is awesome).
Loving the video steph remember them back in 1990s as a school boy always wanted a roland garos they also did a 106 306 and later the 206 .. which i always liked in my lates teens early 20s hope your well
Nice review, Steph!
Hi Steph, you really did this car proud. What a cracking vehicle, and in such lovely condition. I've never heard of this edition, but how smart it looks with that cream leather interior. I hope you got back 'sans speeding ticket' and I'm already looking forward to your next video :-) X X
Brilliant as always
Yeah, 205s are awesome! I have an ‘94 1.1 myself. it’s 7 years older than I am, but still makes sense as a daily soon-to-be classic. It just ticks all the boxes: looks, costs, luggage space, and comfort.
And even with 60 hp, it is still a joy to bomb down a winding road!
Had a 205 myself, nippy and fun to drive. Great little car.
The 205 is a definite modern classic. It was great be it a 1.0 XE or a 1.9GTi. Great little cars. I remember them fondly.
Smashing little car, a credit to the owner. These cars were built when Peugeot made their own shock absorbers rather than bought in ones, and they got them spot on. The 205 was pretty rust resistant too; in all my years as a mechanic/MOT tester I don't remember any serious rot. The mechanics are strong, but won't tolerate too much neglect. Try one with worn gear linkages, it's like hunt the gear! Thanks for another cracking video. Makes me feel old, as I can remember these cars when new!
Was so excited to see this!! The Peugeot 205 Roland Garros were my most favourite one after the GTi and the XS 😁😁😁😁😁😁
My Nan had that outfit as well as most others you wear. Someone at work had one of those and it was immaculate.
My pal had a 106 Roland Garros back in the day, unusual little car, loved the GTi too 👍
Wow - this 205 is in lovely condition - doesn't look like its done all those miles and must have been cherished by its owners.
My mum had a 205 Roland Garros, H2VHC - fond memories indeed. Should never have got rid of it.
I had a CTI back in the day and electric windows were an option even on that. I remember these as being a real cut above the usual special editions with all the equipment they had and unique exterior and leather colour. A Renault 5 Monaco is the only car I can think of with the same ethos in that sized vehicle. Great video Steph, thank you
I passed my driving test in my instrutors peugeot 205 back in 1990 .I had a 205 basic model and they used the 205 as pool cars at the factory I worked at back then I have had a Roland garros edition of the peugeot 206 nice spec .
I love the 205 what a great example to. steph what a great video keep them coming cheers
One of the best small cars imo, i so badly wanted a diesel 205 but never got to own one as they held their prices so well i could not afford one. Closest i did get was a talbot horizon diesel.
I had a 205 after I passed my driving test in 1996. Fantastic cars and a great success for Peugeot. The diesel used to drive for miles on a gallon of fuel.
That is an absolutely gorgeous shade of green.
TU engine is still in models as later as a Peugeot 207!
Think it went in the 106 too
A design classic. The revised dashboard in this is a vast improvement. Nice looking special edition.
Matt or Furious Driving reviewed a 205 Gentry 1.9 Auto last year.
Great little cars. Probably one of the few Peugeots I'd own
Really nice example this one...the 205 along with VW Golf set the style that is still with us today.
Great video!
That 205 really has got all bells and whistles. My quite base 205 XL really is at the opposite end of the range. (Absolutely love that little car)
Nearly everything is different, the only things that are the same are the main body, lights, gear lever, column stalks, ashtray and dash structure.
Everything else is an optional extra it seems.
Lovely car. I remember taking the Roland Garros for a test drive and thinking what a great car. Maybe one day you could compare this car with the 205 1.9?
i’m getting one of these passed down soon, can’t wait
Absolutely brilliant I absolutely love the interiors of old cars I don’t now what it is they look like they were built to last and built so that they were sturdy now a days they’re a load of plastic or cheap materials and just awful to look at. Bring back the old days 😁
I had a 1.9 GTI for years. Lovely little cars. No THP nightmares, no stupid 3 cylinders, to bad Peugeot lost it.
7:46 Steph without mentioning shows the fabulous headroom this car has...
When you first showed the interior, I thought, "Wow, they must have restored the seats" so when you said they were original, I was blown away
Very nice car. The 205 was always fun to drive, and yes, the GTi was the all-time great hot hatch. Even the smaller engined models were pretty good. Nice one Steph.
Another enjoyable video, thank you. Off topic question, sorry if covered elsewhere but how do you shoot the rear video inside the cars you review? They seem rock solid thats all, without all the vibration I would expect.
There are two 205's still being used as daily drivers in my street, Great review too Steph. Ps, What clown put a thumbs down for this review??? Steph does a great job on ALL her reviews
Old pugs are great! New ones have no chance to compete with the oldies
I love it
I learned to drive on a 205. I really enjoyed driving it and subconsciously, I think it's the reason why I've bought so many Peugeots in my life...
I think they got it just right with the 205 Steph Perfect little car , I had a 309 Goodwood and the plastic in that did leave a lot to be desired to be fair, fast tho at the time great to see nice vid 👍
The 1360 in those (XS et al) used to go like the clappers. I remember driving my friends one up Haldon hill in top gear, 4 of us in it and it was pulling like a train.
i remember this little hatchback with 1.9 engine, GTI version, very good car
I lived in Felixstowe in the late 80's, I was an American Expat and remember a lot of these cars having a manual choke and putting oil in the carb.
I drove a 1985 Mini Brilliant little car only once getting on the motorway I was always looking for that fifth gear.
The one vehicle that always gave a chuckle was driving those diesel powered Bedford Trucks that drove occasionally as part of my job they could be temperamental on cold mornings and not exactly the fastest vehicles.
I'm a big fan of small cars, I don't really like big trucks and SUV's that are popular here in the USA where I live now.
I learnt to drive in one of these. Great car to drive with great visibility.
Great video , lovely car .
Really enjoyed your video one of the few things that's helping me through lockdown! Peugout 205 is a great car. However for me i feel the metro has more character/ i prefer the engine noise but the quality is better on the 205.
Lovely review 👍 I have 206cc s16 and it feels the same! Lot's of comprising but it's car in which you have fun to drive to kind of nowhere! Like drive it to drive! For experience only
Just viewed a car review on car sos, amazing these video's filmed with 360° cameras.
Beautiful Car you could put this back in the showroom congratulations to the owner.
Nice one Steph thank you (:
Ps you got this dash on the top range STDT, GTi and 1.4 GT latter on.
Would so have one over a new one as this is from an era we're they were just better. Awesome video. You have driven so great cars ok some I would never want to own but were good cars just had a rep for being uncool.
Great video and looking great to. 🙂
The ignition key had a card chained to it, is that the security card? Nice car and video.
I'm feeling' the hair Stef!
I always fancied owning one but never did. I drove a 205 hire van back in the early 90’s whilst doing work experience with the marketing team at Camelot Theme park. Sadly I only got to drive it a couple of times as someone wrote it off. I also remember a friend of mine having the automatic version that he got on the motability scheme.