If you haven't already had it done, ask your dealer to do the update to the a/c system. It is a major change in the way the air circulates. I believe they tested it in 2021 and was released shortly after. My neighbor had his 4710 done with the test kit and it seemed to help, but he ended up trading it before the hottest part of the summer. I have been running a TM1200 since 2019 and it has been a great machine. It has only needed two repairs. The needle fell off the pressure gauge last fall and the heim joints failed on the transport lift cylinder. I believe that to be directly related to carrying the mower in the up position a bit more than what was intended. The red transport bar is essential. Enjoy watching your videos. I'm not sure why I like to watch folks cut hay when I'm not cutting hay, but I do!
Hi Chris ... Always awesome to see a new video from you! I've never been able to put my finger why, but there is something mesmerizing about videos of a hay train raking and rolling round bales ... That was an awesome sequence you posted. And thanks for all the info. Regarding def fluid, my NH had a defective def fluid sensor that the dealer replaced. It got progressively worse until the tractor wouldn't even start! Since then I never store def above 70 degrees, and I only buy def fluid that has been manufactured in the last 6 months. Blue def is the only brand I can find that publishes its manufacture date (albeit you have to decipher the code). I haven't had problems since.
Nice baler setup! Never seen one with a rake. I also tested our tm1400 i have jd 6420 with 120hp no problem even in thick grass, i can drive 12-15km/h. Our fields are just way smaller than yours :D
A service bulletin came out from Massey regarding the def fluid sensor. If you continue to have the def issue the dealer should come out to replace the sensor. My 4710 had the same issue and after the sensor was replaced I have not had the issue. I was told the tolerances on the sensor were changed. What speed do you bale at and what type of bailer.
Man I’ve been looking at the tm1200. To me that’s the sucky part is having to mow. I have a 9’ Kuhn and the tm1200 would almost cut my time in half. My Vermeer plugs every once in awhile. I replaced the pickup teeth and that helped but it will do it on long stem grass like Johnson grass because it tends hang on the hay saver wheels. I’m about ready to go to a wide pickup baler.
It’s a whole new game going to a wider cut. It really does cut your time down tremendously. I hear ya on the baler. I have the same issues with the New Holland
I have said it before but I'll say it again, It's always a treat to see a new video from you! I would have never have dreamed the 4710 would pull that cutter in economy PTO. Whats the reason for running it in EPTO? I would think that is just putting more load on the tractor and that's why the coolant temp is getting that hot? I have never seen mine get to the hash mark just to the left of the half way hash pulling a 12' bat wing. I feel between that cutter and then running the baler with the rake you need a bigger tractor possibly? Maybe a 6712 or 6713? I had a couple issues on my 4710 with the same DEF quality code and noticed it was only when I filled the tank up completely full, up into the filler neck full. I quit doing that and have't had that code come back in almost 2 years ago. I know after treatment systems inside and out and it doesn't make sense to me. Coincidence? Possibly but it might be worth a shot.
Yeah I’d love to get into a bigger tractor but I’m just not there yet. I really need to add a second tractor which was my goal this year but I had to go a different route. I run the 4710 in Economy because it’s better on fuel. It runs about 1500 rpm’s vs 2000. Temps seem to be the same in normal vs eco. I’ve gotten in to some really thick grass this year and the economy couldn’t handle it. My current bale count is 963 rolled on about 200 acres and the 4710/Tm1200 has cut every bit of it.
Probably an old batch that expired... that brand is EXPENSIVE. All government juice needs to be the same makeup of urea to water or it will throw a fit. Cheap or expensive, it should all be the same... biggest is how long has it been sitting on the shelf and if in a hot or cool environment.
@@farming4g I agree it should all be the same and I thought old on the shelf too. This was a couple years ago when def was doing its supply shortage. Kinda funny the first time I had an error it was with the peak platinum stupid expensive stuff haha. At least 5 different jugs of peak gave me an error for quality. 1200 hrs later never a problem with any other brand. So there’s something to it, maybe it’s just the price point keeps it on the shelf longer.
There's a valve right under the cab at the front on the passenger side that cuts the hot water from circulating through the air conditioning if you didn't already know about it, it seems to help
Man we’ve both came a long ways since our Workmaster! Started following you then, Workmaster 75 and a John Deere 430, now a T5 100 and a Kuhn 2160
Yes sir we have!
If you haven't already had it done, ask your dealer to do the update to the a/c system. It is a major change in the way the air circulates. I believe they tested it in 2021 and was released shortly after. My neighbor had his 4710 done with the test kit and it seemed to help, but he ended up trading it before the hottest part of the summer.
I have been running a TM1200 since 2019 and it has been a great machine. It has only needed two repairs. The needle fell off the pressure gauge last fall and the heim joints failed on the transport lift cylinder. I believe that to be directly related to carrying the mower in the up position a bit more than what was intended. The red transport bar is essential.
Enjoy watching your videos. I'm not sure why I like to watch folks cut hay when I'm not cutting hay, but I do!
Hi Chris ... Always awesome to see a new video from you! I've never been able to put my finger why, but there is something mesmerizing about videos of a hay train raking and rolling round bales ... That was an awesome sequence you posted. And thanks for all the info. Regarding def fluid, my NH had a defective def fluid sensor that the dealer replaced. It got progressively worse until the tractor wouldn't even start! Since then I never store def above 70 degrees, and I only buy def fluid that has been manufactured in the last 6 months. Blue def is the only brand I can find that publishes its manufacture date (albeit you have to decipher the code). I haven't had problems since.
That's a really nice setup, Chris.
Very impressive, didn't know a 100hp tractor could that.
Nice baler setup! Never seen one with a rake. I also tested our tm1400 i have jd 6420 with 120hp no problem even in thick grass, i can drive 12-15km/h. Our fields are just way smaller than yours :D
Holy smoke your flyin
A service bulletin came out from Massey regarding the def fluid sensor. If you continue to have the def issue the dealer should come out to replace the sensor. My 4710 had the same issue and after the sensor was replaced I have not had the issue. I was told the tolerances on the sensor were changed. What speed do you bale at and what type of bailer.
Good to know thank you.
New Holland RB450U
Between 4 and 8mph
Do you mind sharing where you found the used TM1200 at that price id love to buy a new one but 52k is tough to do right now. Thanks
I found it out of Nebraska from a dealer. It is a 2013 model
Man I’ve been looking at the tm1200. To me that’s the sucky part is having to mow. I have a 9’ Kuhn and the tm1200 would almost cut my time in half. My Vermeer plugs every once in awhile. I replaced the pickup teeth and that helped but it will do it on long stem grass like Johnson grass because it tends hang on the hay saver wheels. I’m about ready to go to a wide pickup baler.
It’s a whole new game going to a wider cut. It really does cut your time down tremendously. I hear ya on the baler. I have the same issues with the New Holland
I have said it before but I'll say it again, It's always a treat to see a new video from you!
I would have never have dreamed the 4710 would pull that cutter in economy PTO. Whats the reason for running it in EPTO? I would think that is just putting more load on the tractor and that's why the coolant temp is getting that hot? I have never seen mine get to the hash mark just to the left of the half way hash pulling a 12' bat wing. I feel between that cutter and then running the baler with the rake you need a bigger tractor possibly? Maybe a 6712 or 6713?
I had a couple issues on my 4710 with the same DEF quality code and noticed it was only when I filled the tank up completely full, up into the filler neck full. I quit doing that and have't had that code come back in almost 2 years ago. I know after treatment systems inside and out and it doesn't make sense to me. Coincidence? Possibly but it might be worth a shot.
Yeah I’d love to get into a bigger tractor but I’m just not there yet. I really need to add a second tractor which was my goal this year but I had to go a different route.
I run the 4710 in Economy because it’s better on fuel. It runs about 1500 rpm’s vs 2000. Temps seem to be the same in normal vs eco. I’ve gotten in to some really thick grass this year and the economy couldn’t handle it. My current bale count is 963 rolled on about 200 acres and the 4710/Tm1200 has cut every bit of it.
I’ve had a few def quality warnings on mine also it’s only been with the peak brand blue def, I don’t buy it anymore.
Probably an old batch that expired... that brand is EXPENSIVE.
All government juice needs to be the same makeup of urea to water or it will throw a fit. Cheap or expensive, it should all be the same... biggest is how long has it been sitting on the shelf and if in a hot or cool environment.
@@farming4g I agree it should all be the same and I thought old on the shelf too. This was a couple years ago when def was doing its supply shortage. Kinda funny the first time I had an error it was with the peak platinum stupid expensive stuff haha. At least 5 different jugs of peak gave me an error for quality. 1200 hrs later never a problem with any other brand. So there’s something to it, maybe it’s just the price point keeps it on the shelf longer.
There's a valve right under the cab at the front on the passenger side that cuts the hot water from circulating through the air conditioning if you didn't already know about it, it seems to help
Thank you