History of the Teutonic Order and Knights (1192-1525) | HoP #3

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  • Last video we delved into the prehistory of Prussia in which the Deutschritter Orden, or Teutonic Order, colonized pre-Hohenzollern Prussia. Around 1192 this new order made its appearance in the Kingdom of Jerusalem. With their characteristic white mantles and horned helmets, the Knights of the Teutonic Order emerged as a powerful force in Medieval Europe, greatly influencing its course of history. Because interestingly enough the Teutonic Order never distinguished itself in the Holy Land. It remained a purely Germanic movement and would eventually shape the future of the German East. In this video we will look at the order’s background, its rituals and how it reached its zenith of power in Europe, only to eventually fall into decline.
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    The Teutonic Order, established around 1192, was quite different from the Templar Knights and Knights of St. John, other contemporary Catholic Military Orders. The initiative for the order didn’t come from the clergy or even from German knights, but from German burghers: merchants from Bremen and Lübeck, old cities of the Hanseatic League. As crusading knights were passing their settlements outside the city of Acre in the Kingdom of Jerusalem, it is said disease befell them. The merchants now took it upon themselves to build hospitals and dormitories in order to care for their sick. Pope Celestine III eventually granted them recognition as being a spiritual corporation in 1196. Pope Innocent confirmed this, under one condition: the corporation should become knightly, taking after the Templars. Furthermore, it should model its hospital rules after those of the Order of St John. As such, a new order was born.
    Whereas older orders such as the aforementioned two managed to accumulate much wealth, according to historian H.W. Koch the Teutonic Order didn’t. They hadn’t fought any famous battles in the Holy Land and thus hadn’t managed to accumulate much wealth. Paradoxically this meant that institutional corruption and decay didn’t affect the Teutonic Knights.
    Throughout its history, the order consisted of three main branches. Firstly, the German branch which was concentrated in south-west Germany. Secondly, there was a branch in Livonia, a region on the shores of the Baltic sea, and thirdly there was a Prussian branch with its centre at Marienburg. Eventually, the Prussian branch would become the centre of the entire Order, with Marienburg as its headquarters.
    Whereas initially, the order saw the Holy Land as its centre of missionary activity, early on in the 13th century the order began to focus itself more on eastern-central Europe. This change of their point of attention would greatly influence the history of the Order, and Europe as a whole.
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  • @Pavel-Geleznov
    @Pavel-Geleznov 4 роки тому +106

    for those who don't know: Teutonic Order still exist, HQ in Vienna

  • @HoH
    @HoH  4 роки тому +30

    Unfortunately my computer crashed last week. This video is recorded on an old laptop, so I could release a video. The quality is a little lower than usual because of that, but hopefully still doable. Thanks for watching & happy new year!

    • @gordybishop2375
      @gordybishop2375 4 роки тому +6

      House of History thank you for doing what you do spreading knowledge

    • @brianzulauf2974
      @brianzulauf2974 Рік тому +1

      nostalgia is a great thing

    • @Wolf-hh4rv
      @Wolf-hh4rv 6 місяців тому

      Could the knights leave the order? If you fell in love with a girl, could you leave to marry?

  • @realone4993
    @realone4993 3 роки тому +27

    It's cool to see how a single order of knights set up their own country and government.

  • @georgep.h.9607
    @georgep.h.9607 3 роки тому +35

    I love the narrator's delivery and personal remarks. Wow. Signed up to Patreon, look forward to watching the WW2 series, great work

    • @HoH
      @HoH  3 роки тому +6

      Welcome to the channel, thank you very much for your support!

  • @JPGoertz
    @JPGoertz Рік тому +5

    A very well narrated and excellent series on Prussia! Thank you!

  • @andrewjackbond9921
    @andrewjackbond9921 4 роки тому +11

    I like the Total War: Medieval menu at 0:11

    • @HoH
      @HoH  4 роки тому +2

      I have to be creative sometimes 😉

    • @Ki330rwin
      @Ki330rwin 3 роки тому +2

      @@HoH 10:43 seems like the 1257 AD mod of Mount and Blade Warband. Am i correct? :D

  • @borssuk88
    @borssuk88 3 роки тому +6

    Greetings from Olsztyn (Allenstein) in former East Prussia. Nice one, any chance of listing references in description? All the best.

  • @lydiak4524
    @lydiak4524 3 роки тому +8

    Very well done and delivered. I grew up in Oberschlesien before I moved to the US a very long time ago but I have always found it fascinating that there is so much animosity towards the Teutonic Order among the Polish people today. A grudge lasting for five hundred years? In a country that had so many wars and multiple reasons to hold grudges? Supposedly, the atrocities committed by the Order were numerous and are remembered to this day
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    • @overlord5068
      @overlord5068 3 роки тому +4

      The Teutons were Medieval Natzis. They massacred thousands of innocents

    • @lydiak4524
      @lydiak4524 3 роки тому +3

      @@overlord5068 I believe you're 100% correct.

    • @Vitalis94
      @Vitalis94 3 роки тому +13

      It's mostly due to historical narrative taught at schools. During communist era, they made the Teutons seem like the ancient, German enemy keen on destroying all Poles. It's obviously exxagerated, whilst Teutons surely were brutal, they didn't have to become Poland's enemy. Heck, in the initial phase of Prussian conquest, Polish contingents were helping the Order. And the relation between various dukes (later kingdom) in Poland were good.
      Only after the Teutonic takeover of Gdańsk Pommerania/Pommerelia, did the relations change completely. As they cut off Polish kingdom from it's vital sea connection, and had ambitions to take some more of their territory as well as dominate the region, they became the prime enemy of Poland. All the while being the ultra Catholic knightly order.
      It'a a wonder Poland didn't turn out Protestant later on, having to battle a Catholic enemy for so long.
      Nowadays, the historical narrative is a bit different, but still, the Teutons are a part of Polish national identity, most known from fictional novel written by Sienkiewicz, and it's movie adaptation.
      I would compare Polish relation to the Order to American views of Britain (historical enemy), one difference is, while nowadays Britain has been friendly to US for a long time now, the Teutons are seen as Proto-German, and because of the more recent, negative history with Germany (Prussian partitions, WW2), they are still equated as "The Enemy".

    • @overlord5068
      @overlord5068 3 роки тому +2

      @@Vitalis94 Thank you, sir

    • @lydiak4524
      @lydiak4524 3 роки тому +3

      @@Vitalis94 Excellent response - I truly appreciate people who know the history and who know what they're talking about. I believe originally, Teutonic knights were brought to Silesia (today, part of Poland) to fight the Mongols. Many Teutonic knights died at the Battle of Liegnitz (1241) alongside Prince Henry II of Silesia. Unfortunately, that part was forgotten.

  • @jontoddkoenig5677
    @jontoddkoenig5677 Рік тому +2

    As a descendant of numerous families which were members of the Baltischen Ritterschaften, dating back well into the 14th century, I would find a video explanation of how this organization of mainly German nobility (although there some families of Polish, Swedish, and even English origin) coexisted with the Tuetonic Knights, and eventually took control of the cities and regions of East Prussia (until the 20th century). Thanks!

  • @PersonalChaos
    @PersonalChaos 4 роки тому +8

    As I understood, the idea of the horned and other overtly ornamental helms within the Order is mostly a farb-ism. It's important to remember that these were monks, and an order with similar Hospitaller foundings as the Knights of St John. Excessively personal designs took their equipment would be frowned upon heavily in their society.
    The idea mainly came about from one famous Knight, who notably only adorned such headdress after departing the Order.

    • @overlord5068
      @overlord5068 3 роки тому +3

      Wtf are you saying. The Teutons has horns on their helmet due to their germanic race and culture

    • @hmvollbanane1259
      @hmvollbanane1259 2 роки тому +1

      Can't recall it off the top of my head but they specifically didn't have one of the rules the other big crussader orders had that pledged them to humility or being "poor" or something of the likes that prevented them from wearing insignia and personalized decorations which marked them out amongst other knights. As the teutonic knights didn't have that rule they in turn stood out among crusader orders by having said decorations. While the portrayal is most probably exaggerated the fact that they wore stuff like helm decorations became a characteristic marker for them

  • @melchiorclaromonte4570
    @melchiorclaromonte4570 3 роки тому +7

    At the time when Kulmland had been granted to Knights Masovian Conrad was nothing but a ruler of Masovia, the most prominent of Polish dukes was Henry the Bearded of Silesia spouse of St Hedwig.

  • @ThisisBarris
    @ThisisBarris 4 роки тому +13

    Great video man! Frankly, I only learned about the Teutonics a couple of years ago (from playing EU4). It's crazy how little they're discussed compared the crusaders.

    • @Vitalis94
      @Vitalis94 4 роки тому +14

      They are not that important to Western Europeans, historical studies there concentrate more on the Levantine crusaders, but to us, Eastern Europeans, and most notably Poland and most of the Baltic states, they are known to the wider public, due to nationalist narratives estabilished during Communist Era (Eternal German Enemy) and some movies ("The Teutonic Knights" movie was one of the biggest movies in Polish cinematography, for example).
      There is also a medieval fair and reenactment every year on July 15th in Grunwald, many tourists from not just Poland but neighbouring countries attend to it).
      So yeah, those guys are defenitely more known in the East, to the point that the mainstream public is at least aware of their existance.
      Personally, growing up just few kilometers from Grunwald, and going there every summer, seeing the knights fighting, reenactors living in the tents and brewing authentic, medieval beer, all that atmosphere, it wasn't hard to fall in love in Teutonic Orders history.
      I defenitelly recommend anyone to go to Grunwald if you happen to visit Poland in July, it's quite an experience.

  • @BeeWaifu
    @BeeWaifu 3 роки тому +4

    I keep looking around for the daily rituals of the Knights Teutonic, and I still can't find them. I guess I'll just use those by the Templars.

  • @yggdrasil9039
    @yggdrasil9039 4 роки тому +17

    Amazing that Henry Bolingbroke later Henry IV fought alongside the Teutonic Knights. Amazing! What a pity these Anglo-Franco-German alliances were not brought to mind during the 20th century.

    • @MichaelBrueckner
      @MichaelBrueckner Рік тому +1

      Late but not too late with the European Union. Unfortunately, Brexiters forgot about the spirit and remain in contempt of alliances.

  • @duckanimations6990
    @duckanimations6990 3 роки тому

    It’s summer break but I love knights so much I’m still going to watch this

  • @Back4Fungame
    @Back4Fungame Рік тому +1

    great as always

    • @Endgame707
      @Endgame707 Рік тому +1

      The Teutonic Knights Were Turkish 🇹🇷

    • @Back4Fungame
      @Back4Fungame Рік тому +1

      @@Endgame707 christlich-keuscher kebab

  • @southjerseyghost3500
    @southjerseyghost3500 3 роки тому +4

    How did it not distinguish itself in the holy land when it’s first capital was in Acre?..

  • @Vitalis94
    @Vitalis94 4 роки тому +13

    The photo you name as the Teutonic Order's hospital in Jerusalem is actually located in Malbork/Marienburg. You can easily see that the flora seen on the photo is nowhere to be found in Israel's climate. Also, it's a red brick building, wheras not only no Teutonic buildings of the remain in Jerusalem itself, but red brick architecture is a typical Northern German one.
    For all Teutonic zealotry, I've read somewhere that the Grand Masters allowed for some pagan rituals to be practicised in Sambia until 16th century, but can't find any source confirming it, but it isn't that impossible, after all, Sambia was the most densly populated region of Prussia, it's where the last speaker of the language died off, and paganism could've been practicised long after the conquest, but I'm not that sure about the Hochmeister's permission, need to verify that.
    The Teutons didn't appear out of nowhere in Poland, too, they first appeared in Silesia, and due to their presence there, Conrad was persuaded to invite them in the first place.
    Also, Mazovia never conquered any parts of Prussia besides maybe some forward forts at most. The relations between the Prussians and the Mazovians were focused on raids and counterraids.
    Conrad only requested aid from the Teutons because of the Prussian raid (a counterraid, at that, he marched into Prussia just before). Having Prussians raiding from the north, while his real ambitions were in the south and west (this was a period of decentralized Piast duchies in Poland, where various dukes fought amonst themselves for the supremacy, very GOT-like style) ment that he was very approving of the idea of some foreign monk-knights to secure his northern flank while he dealt with other Piasts. That's why his relations with the Order were so positive at first.
    A shame you didn't expand into Prussian uprisings, during one of them they were nearly expelled from the region. Plus, Herkus Monte's history is a very interesting one.
    But I understand that it's due to timing restrains it wasn't feasible.

  • @catheadoff
    @catheadoff 3 роки тому

    SUBSCRIBED!

  • @krzysztofr899
    @krzysztofr899 3 роки тому +4

    Konrad of Masovia wasn't duke of Poland. He was duke of Masovia. He dreamed to capture Krakow. He spent most of his life at war with Duke of Krakow Leszek the White.

  • @kaiushijima7060
    @kaiushijima7060 4 роки тому +5

    (^~^) Thank you for explaining "History of the Teutonic Order and Knights." It's a new knowledge for me because I have never learned about this part of the history at school in my country.
    I also wonder about (1) "History of Duchy of Courland (Kurland) and Semigallia : 1561-1795" and (2) "History of Grand Duchy of Lithuania before the Union of Lublin 1569." It seems Lithuanians were minority in Drand Duchy of Lithuania and their county's linga franca was "old Belarusian language ! ? @,@9." Not Lithuanian but old Belarusian language ! Wow....., I'm very confused ! !
    If you have a chance, would you make these history videos? I'm sorry for my bad English. Thank you very much. (^~^)

  • @siggiAg86
    @siggiAg86 3 роки тому

    Awesome - I love the history of Prussia!!

  • @HikmaHistory
    @HikmaHistory 4 роки тому +33

    Anybody else get the vybe that the Teutonic Knights were like the European Samurai's?

    • @franciscomm7675
      @franciscomm7675 4 роки тому +8

      Hikma History, yes. Also like the samurai, despite all the their codes of honor, they were often cruel, treacherous and greedy. Unlike their counterparts in the Levant, the teutons had the mission to convert the entire population prussia and the baltics to Christianity, regardless if they wanted to convert or not. That explains why they don’t have a good image, especially in the baltic countries.
      Nevertheless, the history of ancient prussia and the teutons is fascinating and i am glad that house of history is doing these videos

    • @Campanellaa
      @Campanellaa 4 роки тому +6

      Hum... nope... Samurai were never connected to any form of religion, neither colonisation (War against the Emishi was before the samurai cast system existed, and was much more politic, and far less religious and martial than the Teutonic knight occupation of Baltic lands).
      Also, beware, a lot of myth about samurai were build during the Meijing restoration to create a similarity with Europe nationalisme (as most Nationalist propaganda everywere tbh, it was kinda a trend during the 19th century). And Bushido was (re)build to look more like chivalry code, which in europe was created at the really end of medieval era and early renaissance... to paint early knight as more valorous and righteous than contemporary ones.
      I've got a podcast in french with martial artist and researcher about that subject : ua-cam.com/video/QUUek__bSf0/v-deo.html
      Also, samurai were not involved in any large conquest/colonisation except during the failed tentative to invade Korea.
      You could said that Samurai and European Nobility shared some ressemblance. Since they are an elite hereditary class centered around bound (feodality system), land owning, and martial culture. But there is also a lot of difference.
      And, since Teutonic Knight are nobility, in this narrow aspect they share a very tiny small similarity. Beside that, none at all.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 2 роки тому +1

    Hey some of these images came from the Total War game. Awesome.

  • @joecrill7234
    @joecrill7234 3 роки тому +1

    I would love to purchase one of those neat House of History mug {15 ounces}.

    • @HoH
      @HoH  3 роки тому +1

      Hi Joe, thank you for your comment. I recently opened a webshop where I sell mugs like that: houseofhistory.co/shop/ Please use the coupon code "historybonus5" for a discount.
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  • @Shinji_1943
    @Shinji_1943 4 роки тому +3

    Love your videos.

  • @JoeHynes284
    @JoeHynes284 4 роки тому +4

    gonna hit 20k followers this month!!!!!

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      @HoH  4 роки тому +3

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  • @duantorruellas716
    @duantorruellas716 2 роки тому

    Very nice .

  • @bryanb6931
    @bryanb6931 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you Sir, very informative !

  • @philjohnson1744
    @philjohnson1744 Рік тому

    Cisterntion monks were some of the most adept manipulators of water. They built great plumbing. Hence the term " Cistern"

  • @jonathandnix3692
    @jonathandnix3692 2 роки тому +1

    WWI Field Marshall Paul von Hindenburg supposedly was a direct descendant of a founding member of the Order. He sure looked the part.

  • @MrJlin1982
    @MrJlin1982 2 роки тому +1

    How about the trade in the order to other cities?

  • @reversehq8806
    @reversehq8806 4 роки тому +2

    Your Mic has bass

  • @DeadMouseRedband
    @DeadMouseRedband 2 роки тому +1

    I loved this video but have a question, are you Dutch? You pronounce some German names really Dutch and I was just wondering.

  • @maxdesorgher
    @maxdesorgher 2 роки тому

    Early 16th century the teutonic Knights via Norway/Denmark came to America. Also Lutherins from the Rhineland came to America - some went to Russia and during the reign of Catherine the Great emigrated to America (Lucky Valley - Gluckensthal). My family Oppenheimer 1605 to America and (Opps of Lucky Valley) and later State of Bavaria came also to America. There is among the history Knights legends and objects. It is possible the teutonic knights chose to change the rules of paternity.

  • @LamiNalchor
    @LamiNalchor 2 роки тому +1

    Considering this standard you would have to call almost all cultures or civilizations guilty of genocide.

  • @MrRetepyesmar
    @MrRetepyesmar 3 роки тому +1

    The Teutonic knight order held obviously different codes of honour and its missions were not exclusively focussed on retaining christianity in the holy lands. The Knights Templar , Knights Hospitaler and Knights of St John appear to focus on crusades (excursions) traveling to and from the Holy Lands and the Levant. These crusades were aimed at preserving Jerusalem as the source and influence of christianity. I assume these other Knight Orders were presumably sponsored and supported by Rome Vatican) and later on were aimed at controlling the rise of islam and preventing the settlement of Califates in Europe? It appears that even today Europe struggles to protect itself from an unstoppable flow of occidental and arab mauraders entering Europe ( immigrants) and from diluting christian values and undermining its established virtues.

  • @juliuszgodek6514
    @juliuszgodek6514 Рік тому

    I must say I enjoyed the Video, however I think there were many gross oversimplifications present in regards to the ethnic make up of the lands before the teutonic conquest. If the series is mostly focused on the country of Prussia, this is all well and good, however if the land of Prussia was also in its focus, then this is an oversight

    • @juliuszgodek6514
      @juliuszgodek6514 Рік тому

      I guess mostly talking about the Germanization of West Prussia and Pomerania which was occuring simultaneously without the orders influence. Danzig especially was a German-populated (an led) city when the Order took it and sack it

    • @juliuszgodek6514
      @juliuszgodek6514 Рік тому

      Also the Numbers at the Battle of Grunwald Where No Where near that - most likely 40 thousand Poles/Lithuanians and 25k Teutons

  • @frederickthegreatpodcast382
    @frederickthegreatpodcast382 4 роки тому +5

    Why were the Knights not able to write letters?

    • @HoH
      @HoH  4 роки тому +6

      A long story short: literacy rates from the 11th to 15th century in the HRE were below 5%. Electing a Grand Master probably had more to do with (the projection of) strength and organization, rather than literacy.
      blogs.qub.ac.uk/medievalforum/2015/08/19/literacy-and-print-in-early-modern-germany-and-england/

    • @dutchman7623
      @dutchman7623 3 роки тому

      @@HoH
      Nobility rated below 2% in those days, meaning that many of them could read and write, all within your 5%.
      Furthermore the merchant class in the Hanze were nobles or of noble descent, because they needed to be 'free men' to be merchants, to travel and most of all to do business.
      The Teutonic order was rich, because those who joined left their inheritance to the order.
      Strange myth that wealth was accumulated in the holy land, it was not!
      All orders got their wealth in Europe, not from stealing from poor Arabs.
      Seems to me the 'House of History' has read the wrong books!

    • @HoH
      @HoH  3 роки тому +1

      @@dutchman7623 Surely in absolute numbers more nobility could read and write compared to commoners. Never said that wasn't the case.
      Merchants didn't necessarily have to be of noble descent, actually. It was very well possible for 'commoners' to accumulate a fortune. It was a rare occasion, sure, but it certainly happened. Not everyone was a serf back then. There's a wide range between being 'unfree' and being a 'nobleman', namely the somewhat free commoners, guildmembers, merchants etc.
      I think I pretty clearly elaborated how the Teutonic Order grew in wealth and strength outside of the Holy Land, as it wasn't very significant over there.

  • @dannica2028
    @dannica2028 11 місяців тому

    Help Drffend Heal !Amen !
    Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam !Amen !

  • @sauvageaux
    @sauvageaux 2 роки тому +1

  • @hughsmith4464
    @hughsmith4464 3 роки тому +1

    The siege of Malta

    • @profkluk
      @profkluk 3 роки тому

      Yeah, that's fascinating topic (though it has little to do with Prussia or the Teutonic Order). I wrote a little article about it by the way: www.reddit.com/r/RHistory/comments/dg2i8q/the_great_siege_of_malta/

  • @johnnyforz
    @johnnyforz 3 роки тому +1

    Age of empires video lol

  • @patemplar43
    @patemplar43 4 роки тому +14

    Excellent video. Great content and very well spoken. However, the obligatory talk about "genocide" needs to be understood in the context of the times and the situation. The Pagan tribes were fierce warriors and very cruel. The genocide was two-sided. Same as the fighting in Holy Land. Both sides were guilty of cruelty. .. It is not always just the Christians who are guilty.

    • @HoH
      @HoH  4 роки тому +9

      Absolutely. If we place it in perspective it was a very brutal conquest, but not by unusual methods at the time

    • @patemplar43
      @patemplar43 4 роки тому +8

      @@HoH Well said sir... It was good to hear you mention Koch's book on Prussia. I thought I was the only guy on the planet who read the thing.

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 3 роки тому +2

      @@HoH They were invited to protect Polish christians from Prussian pagans that were making raids on Polish territory... First thing that they did when they showed up in Danzig was massacre of local Polish population(In 1308, the town was taken by Brandenburg and the Teutonic Knights restored order. Subsequently, the Knights took over control of the town. Primary sources record a massacre carried out by the Teutonic Knights against the local population, of 10,000 people, even in wikipedia you can find info about it...).
      pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historia_Polski_(do_1138)#/media/Plik:Polska_960_-_992.png
      Map of Mieszko I territory->beggining of Kingdom of Poland in X century.
      And you showing in your video some fabricated by Germans map where all the terrain that they took from its Polish host is some kind of uninhabited desert...
      They started history in this part of Europe with fat lies and was lying for centuries, for example in famous 1410 battle they got plenty of knigts from the west of Europe as they convinced them that they will be fighting with pagan Poland as according to them Poland(that started its history in 966 by becoming christian country) was not a christian country at all...
      Less than century later Germans started revolution against catholic church... Protestant reformation was the reason why for two centuries all over the Europe we got people burned alive because of wichhunt and false acusations and on top of that super bloody religion wars.
      They can't hide the genocide of Prussians as they first decimated them and then destroyed any sign of Prussians culture, before WW2 they even were happy to eradicate last Prussian names in Prussia.
      They were trying to do exactly the same in Poland from the beggining. For example in Polish-Teutonic War (1326-1332) they were murdering any Polish civilians and burning what ever they couldn't steal.
      They are not reporting all that horible things that they did in Prussia and its the same story like in case of WW2, the same behaviour the same people, the same language and even the same black crosses on the white background... its clearly only a coincidence that it was all looking so similar to XIV century and that now they are trying to show themself as the first victim of people that they elected in free democratic elections...
      "Absolutely. " biased video, no doubt that Germans gonna love it.

    • @user-jn1ts4wl1c
      @user-jn1ts4wl1c 3 роки тому +1

      @@Bialy_1 niqa providing link in smashed keyboard language. I cant 🤣

    • @retardcorpsman
      @retardcorpsman 2 роки тому

      Biały
      Hold on, but didnt the Pagans set captive knights on fire?
      2 separate sources from 2 separate eras claimed that Old Prussian tribesmen “roasted knights in their Armor as a sacrifice” and Lithuanian pagans often “dragged captive knights behind their horses or set them ablaze to burn”. These atrocities are too much of a coincidence to be considered a fake source or extravagant claims.
      If these sources are to be believed, then it is proof that this video isnt biased and that House of History’s claims that those subjugation methods were “usual of their time” is in-fact correct.
      Why? This is because Medieval armies at the time commonly committed massacres and extermination campaigns as an act of reprisal for a slight in the past. England commonly executed their captives, the Polish were not merciful to the Mongols, the Hungarians were bloodthirsty and the Swiss are perfect yet grim examples of this. In this case, the teutonic order is no different to these other kingdoms.
      This is not to say that the teutonic order’s actions are justified, of course they aren’t. In fact, sources point to the teutonic order being the most likely aggressor in their Lithuanian/Prussian conquests and that the atrocities committed by the Pagans were actually later acts of revenge against the order. However, it is sensible for the teutonic order to be as aggressive as they were in history knowing how vengeful their Mongol, Lithuanian and Prussian opponents were.
      So, who’s the justified “good guy” between Poland, Lithuania and the teutonic order during those baltic wars long ago? I am of the opinion that neither side were the “good guys” at all. Between all the teutonic order massacres, Lithuanian captive killings and Poland’s betrayal, all sides of the baltic crusades were frankly….screwed up.
      Sources:
      SEWARD, Desmond (1995). The monks of war : the military religious orders (Second, Revised ed.). England: Penguin Books. p. 100 $ p. 104 ISBN 0140195017.

  • @derruckkehrer7383
    @derruckkehrer7383 3 роки тому +7

    Very interested in this Order. I have a lot of German heritage and who knows, maybe someday I might join this Order. If not, I'd be fine just admiring their history while living in Germany.

    • @kaisertreu6276
      @kaisertreu6276 3 роки тому +3

      I mean, the order still exists, but it has no militaristic or knightly character anymore.

    • @gabbo7101
      @gabbo7101 3 роки тому +1

      @@linnylinhorst5102 That woiuld just be unrealistic for something of the modern day. The church no longer controls most of europe, nor is religious zeal as large as it was. Also, imperialism and aggressive expansionism is looked down upon in today's society. Also, a militant religious order, atleast now-a-days, would be scrutinised in modern europe, along with the church itself for forming such order. In the middle east, however, there are countless groups that are fueled little more then their religious zeal, fighting in the name of Allah.

    • @riograndedosulball248
      @riograndedosulball248 3 роки тому

      I also want to join them. I sent an email asking the order, about thrir pre-requisits once and they adressed me almost immediately. Basically i fit in every category required to become a Teutonic Knight, except having 1.500 Euros to pay the entry fee. Oof.
      Maybe someday...

    • @retardcorpsman
      @retardcorpsman 2 роки тому

      Rio Grande do Sul Ball
      I wouldnt recommend you to join the order, if their main entrance requirements is 1,500 euros.
      There’s plenty of more sincere and religious orders out there that can give you a more fulfilling spiritual experience completely free of charge. The order of St Francis might interest you.

  • @TelefonasT
    @TelefonasT 3 роки тому +4

    No way Lithuanian and Polish army was twice bigger than Teutonic army. The most accepted numbers by most historians are 39 000 on Lithuania and Poland, and 27 000 on Teutons. And I never read any study which says that they were 50.000 Teutons. There's ~13 studies/sources about numbers in grunwald, neither one mentions that number.

    • @HoH
      @HoH  3 роки тому +4

      You're most likely right. I believe I got that number from H.W. Koch's History of Prussia (pages 27-32). Unfortunately, I borrowed that book from my local library so I cannot verify for certain.
      After creating this video, I discovered Koch made multiple other mistakes, mainly about the ethnicity of the original Prussians and not differentiating between Balts and Slavs. Very regrettable because I thought his book about Prussian history was fascinating... but apparently not so.
      Of course, I should have caught out this mistake. But I am just one guy working on this channel 50-80 hours a week (with a lot of fulfilment and enjoyment, I should add!). Sometimes the amount of information and research blurs the big picture, and I am by no means an expert on the subject, which is exactly why I created a video about it: I simply wanted to learn and understand more about it.

  • @LCMM2150
    @LCMM2150 3 роки тому

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  • @heinzfischer2710
    @heinzfischer2710 2 роки тому

    Teutonic knights? Their name is "Deutscher Ritterorden", German knights
    order is the correct translation!
    Who are the Teutons? The Teutons were a Germanic tribe who before
    Cesar's time invaded northern Italy and were beaten. Since then there
    is no news about them! Heaven knows why English-speaking literature
    speaks of the Teutonic kights. The German knights order was founded
    during the 3rd crusade in Accra, and existed for centuries. But the
    Teutons appeared before Cesar, and then were never heard of again!

  • @davestylehenry
    @davestylehenry 3 роки тому +2

    2020 teutonic order is all about charity

  • @jay_alraj8628
    @jay_alraj8628 2 роки тому +1

    This is when they controlled Palestinian

  • @anetr1953
    @anetr1953 3 роки тому +1

    It is Malbork, not Marienburg

    • @riograndedosulball248
      @riograndedosulball248 3 роки тому +5

      It is Malbork... today, due to recent developments that had nothing to do with the order's history. To keep true to the theme it is right to call by the name it was known for most of it's history: Marienburg

  • @abdullahidahir9884
    @abdullahidahir9884 4 роки тому +10

    The Teutonic Knights were Cruel, It was absolutely terrible that they Exterminated the Old Prussians and their language and culture and replaced them with Germans.
    What a shame 😡

    • @Vitalis94
      @Vitalis94 4 роки тому +19

      They didn't exterminate them. Not by force. The initial conquest was bloody, sure, but Prussia was heavily forested, not that densly populated. The Prussians were slowly assimilated culturally, over the centuries, but never fully exterminated. Heck, Prussian language died off in early 1700s.

    • @gordybishop2375
      @gordybishop2375 4 роки тому +1

      So,,,they were like the Borg

    • @jerichonelson6956
      @jerichonelson6956 4 роки тому +5

      Shut up, Teutons are great, you biased brainwashed rat fowled dingus.

    • @RexOlafusVidulusMagnus
      @RexOlafusVidulusMagnus 3 роки тому +4

      @@jerichonelson6956 are yes, nice friendly monks. TODAY.
      In 1300-400s they were a bunch of greedy fucks.

    • @Boogeyyyman
      @Boogeyyyman 2 роки тому +1

      Teutonic knights conquered Prussians and assimilated them but didn't exterminate them. And Prussians themselves raid neighbors and captured their women and did a lot of awful stuff. I think from today's point of view none has the moral high ground.

  • @marcinterlecki6021
    @marcinterlecki6021 3 роки тому +2

    Christ. Can't you set simplest fact straight? ISSUE #1) - Casimir III married daughter of King of Lithuania ????? Please be informed that Lithuania was not a kingdom, and Casimir III The Great married a Lithuanian princess. ISSUE #2) No word about a massacre of Gdańsk / Danzig in 1308? And a reasons behind it? ISSUE #3) The heiress to the Crown of Poland, that married Jogaila, was in fact a crowned KING (sic!) of Poland. ISSUE #4) according to commonly accepted figures, at Grunwald it was not 2:1 for Poland-Lithuania, it was less that 3:2. ISSUE #5) There were no Prussia on the west bank of Vistula river (!!!) - the name is Pomerelia and it was Slavic until conquest of 1308/9. Low quality material all to all :(

    • @HoH
      @HoH  3 роки тому +6

      1) Yes, Casimir married the daughter of the Grand Duke of Lithuania.
      2) I only have so much time in a video.
      3) Okay? Not sure what the problem is.
      4) The sources I listed in the description are proper academic sources about this subject. So [citation needed] on your part. I've given mine.
      5) Okay? Not sure what the problem is.
      All in all pretty odd to call a video that builds on multiple academic sources about an incredibly complex subject 'low quality material'.
      Sure, I make mistakes and I generally acknowledge them. My sources certainly aren't perfect, but your criticism isn't exactly fair.

    • @marcinterlecki6021
      @marcinterlecki6021 3 роки тому +1

      @@HoH The problem is that errors you've made, possible except numbers for Grunwald, are crucial ones. 1) Lithuania was not a kingdom as it was the state run by pagan Lithuania elite (although with majority of people being Orthodox) - it was in fact the main reason behind having The Order up there in the first place, wasn't it? 2) Takeover of Gdansk and subsequent conquest of Pomerelia is crucial as The Order for the first time openly attacked Christian state (Poland), murdered christian citizens of Gdańsk (mostly Polish / Kashubian, but surprisingly - also German settlers invited to the city before). The Order got excommunicated for that, although briefly (politics is stronger than moral rules I guess) 3) Jadwiga was official ruler of Kingdom of Poland, Jogaila was just a co-ruler. husband of his wife, so to speak. It was only the death of Jadwiga (while giving the birth to their first child) when Jogaila took the whole power. 4) The sources you've listed in the description (quoting) : "Sources:
      Photos, paintings and imagery: Public Domain, Wikicommons". Yeah, rock-solid. 5) The problem is also crucial in fact. Pomerelia was never under Old Prussians control, it was Slavic / Polish / Kashubian since beginning of it's tracked history (997 AD), grabbed by The Order only in 1308/1309. So applying the name Prussia (or West Prussia) to this land was really just The Order PR bs.
      Oh - and one more absurd (from your other video) - Albrecht, the last Grand Master of The Order, could not 'decide to crown himself as a duke' of secular state. He needed to be granted this permission by his sovereign, the king of Poland, Sigismund The Old. Who happened to be his uncle (you seem to miss this 'detail'?).
      Also, one more obvious thing - the opposition against oppressive Teutonic rule was older than Prussian Union. You may check the Lizard Union, or story of the German mayor of Gdańsk, Conrad Letzkau, murdered by The Order in 1411. And the opposition was not limited to Prussian / Pomerelian cities - after Grunwald defeat, number of bishops turned to Jagiello for protection against The Order....

    • @georgep.h.9607
      @georgep.h.9607 3 роки тому +5

      Make your own video and make sure to correct all of the author’s mistakes. If I find any mistakes in your own work, I will come down on you. Like a Teutonic knight’s mace on an infidel’s head. So make it good. Cheers

    • @marcinterlecki6021
      @marcinterlecki6021 3 роки тому +1

      @@georgep.h.9607 Talker ... so maybe use your faulty mace on House of History's head ... it clearly deserves some wakening ...

    • @RexOlafusVidulusMagnus
      @RexOlafusVidulusMagnus 3 роки тому +2

      Chill the fuck out or wpierdol

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    @judahchrist7741 3 роки тому +2

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  • @overlord5068
    @overlord5068 3 роки тому +2

    Why do you lie?