I dont believe I could fly and observe this incredible landscape at the same time. My eyes are taking in more information than my brain can process. This place is absolutely beyond any words I can use to describe. How lucky you are to live in this utopia.
Beeindruckend, einfach nur beeindruckend. Sowohl der klasse Helicopter als auch die wunderschöne Schweiz, bzw. die unfassbaren Alpen. Super Video, ganz besonders weil ohne durchgehende Musikuntermalung.👍Vielen Dank fürs Teilen!🙂
.... would have been nice to be able to hear the instructor's comments via the intercom for the duration of this flight ... might have given more insight to what was going on ....
The biggest problem with being a heli pilot is the economy of fuel. If you can get people who will pay more than your fuel, sure. Otherwise you are stuck in a loop where you have to supply villages like a bush pilot. Although the craft is cool to learn, it might not be worth it to do economically.... no matter how much I want to after learning the lingo.
Seems like the yaw string froze over in a tangled-up position at around 17:55. It hardly moved after that until shortly before the first landing... If nothing it could serve as an excuse for the rather twitchy flying at higher altitudes as keeping the nose steady into the wind might have been a bit more challenging than normal :) Anyway, awesome video! Gotta do a trial flight someday, too - growing a bit tired of wearing my VR goggles and repeatedly cursing at X-Plane for struggling to keep my FPS steady :)
Waren 40 Minuten. Konnte den Cyclic, den Collective und die Pedale selbst bedienen. Halt je nach Flugsituation, Start und Landung hat der Fluglehrer übernommen.
This question is coming from a fixed wing pilot so bear with me, but I noticed the airspeeds dropping pretty low as you ascended around the valley peaks of the mountain region on your return leg. I know you are at around 800 hp on this incredible ship, but wouldn't it be better to have gone with a twin engine variant. If not, could you help me understand why? Thanks much.
A twin engine helicopter is more expensive and therefore costs more. Also the power to weight ratio is much worse with a twin engine helicopter. In a twin engine helicopter, you loose more lift/power due to the greater weight than you gain through more horsepower. So the single engine H125 (AS350) is the first choice in mountainous regions.
@@Mrfabulous7 Ooooh. Okay. That makes sense. So I would have to assume from that - twin engine applications would be best used for heavy loads then? Or simply for redundancy
@@MainbusfailTwin engine only for redundancy and some bigger heavier helicopters for which no sufficent single engine exists. AS350 single engine can lift more weight than it's twin engine variant the AS355. Single engine = better power to weight ratio = better hot and high performance = you can fly higher and climb faster and you can lift more weight, also at sealevel.
Ja, viele Hubschrauberfirmen bieten "Schnupperflüge" an, welche du wie ein Rundflug auch buchen kannst. Voraussetzung ist "nur", dass man bei "normaler" physischer und psychischer Gesundheit ist. Die Flugminuten können auch an eine angehende Pilotenausbildung angerechnet werden. :)
Hmm, the most powerful civil single engine helicopter is the Agusta 119 with the P&WC PT6B-37A engine with 747 kW (1002 hp) The most powerful civil single engine helicopter is Allison C30 equipped the MD530F with a weight/power ratio of 1:1. (686 kg to 630 hp) Even the MD600N with the Allison C47M engine (840 hp, empty weight only 853 kg!) is way stronger than a B3e. Not to be forget is the B407 (1201 kg ew) And as far as I can remember, the latest AS350B3e (EW 1274 kg) has the Ariel 2D implemented from the EC130B4 (632kW /859 hp T/O Performance ) while the 130B4 (EW 1461 kg) got a engine upgrade to T2 (710 kW / 965 hp T/O Performance). On the other hand, the wide cabin is not only heavy but also the Fenestron less powerful in thin air (H&H environment) than the regular AS350 T/R. So, the most powerful single engine Eurocopter/Airbus helicopter weight/ratio might indeed be the AS350B3e with a basic empty weight of 165 kg less than the EC130. But that has to be determined with the actual weight sheet on your RFM. But I’m happy that you love flying helicopter and had the opportunity for a mountain flight with Swisscopter.
Thank you for pointing it out. I like constructive critic like this. I must admit it was more a thing for an interesting title. I was thinking about it, if I can use it, it shoudn't be clickbait. I was looking at the term „most powerful“ not in the way of pure engine power and not pure power to weight ratio (which is much more telling as the engine power), but more in terms of „hot and high“ performance. When we look at aerial work in mountainous countries, or even rescues, they use H125s. In Switzerland and Austria it is like this and also in Nepal, in the Everest-Region. For Everest rescues they only use B3s, (now called H125) and no single B407 or Agusta A119 or MD600. I know about one B407 which is also used for sling load work in Switzerland. But as you stated, for a specific case you have to check the performance charts in your RFM. And I know in thin air also the type of the airfoil and the efficiency of the turbine in thin air matters. I didn't check all the RFMs of every helicopter, but would bet that today the H125 performs best in thin air, at least in the class of small single engine helicopters. At least, I think I can leave the title like that even when it isn't true in terms of engine performance and is also a bit spongy orherwise. But we have to mention my favorite helicopter the SA315B Lama which was the high altitude king. I wish I could see a test at h&h conditions together with the H125. When you check the charts and ask pilots who have flown both types at high altitude and under high temeperatures they state, that over 4000 meters the Lama outperforms still today a modern H125 in terms of lifting capacity. But only this parameter, it is slower, noisier, consumes more fuel and so on. But as it looks, it lifts more. I know about a pilots statement who has flown concrete to a construction side at 3900 meters. In cool conditions the Lama and the H125 both lifted the same weight, but on a warm summer day the Lama could lift more weight. I really would like to know if the tables have turned, with the newest upgrades of the H125 but would guess they haven't. Because the Arriel 2D engine is still the same with the same characteristics in thin air, and also the airfoils are the same and so on. I think to beat the Lama, they have to design and develop a chopper especially for this purpose, the same as it was the case with the Lama. The Lama is slow, really slow, but beats them all in terms of lifting capacity in thin air. Most modern helicopters are also very heavy e.g. H130… The Lama weighs only 1100 kg with a 880 hp turbine reduced to 550 hp, but you have this power guaranteed available up to 13123 ft (4000 m) density altitude. Only from 4000 meters density altitude you are allowed to pull the maximum allowable pitch of the main rotor blades….
@@Mrfabulous7 If you need h&h for sling load, nothing outperformes a K-Max… Nevertheless, the Lama is „The icon oh alpine Helicopters! But yes, it’s old… I’d really love to see a sling competition between the B3e and the 600N. With equal power and 400 kg less EW… They are all great machines. Safe flying.
@@akkseljohansson3601 Yes of course they are. I also would book a place in the first row to see such a comparison. 😃🙌🏼 We can check such things through the RFMs but we do also know, that some machines can perform e.g. at higher altiutes than they are certified, so we can't compare under extreme situations. If you say now no one would do this, check Airbus Helicopters website, they make advertising with a rescue at 7800 meters (25590 ft) which is not allowed by the manufacture, it's unbelievable for me. I think it's great that someone has risked his life for antoher one, and made it even if it wasn't covered by the insurance, and was illegal. But I think it's not fair that a manufacturer use this achievement for marketing purposes, because if the pilot had failed, he would maybe loose his license and the manufacturer would highlight the fact, that the pilot didn't stick to the rules, and the company wouldn't appreciate it, but this is life.
This is simply not correct. The 530F or FF is limited to to max continuous of 350hp with a transmission limit of 425hp for 5 mins. It does not matter how powerful the turbine is ‘on paper’. Basic c20b turbines with enhanced wheels can theoretically produce more than 650HP. What matters is the rating of the components and the subsequent performance figures. For example, the B3 can HOGE with 1,000kg at 3,800m (12,500ft) the 530F can HOGE at 3,300 (11,000ft) with 700kg. In the real world, the B3 is a monster and I’m a huge 500 fan. Your title is correct. The B3 would be no competition for a 600n lifting. I doubt you would find a pilot brave enough to sling load a 600n. There is a reason they are no longer made.
I am not familiar with the legislation on this subject here in Switzerland, as I am not a pilot myself. But I think below 12000 ft you don't need by law and the pilots work every day at high altitudes and much people do live at higher altitudes in the mountains and it doesn't feel so high for most of us. But yes I know, there lies the danger. You can suffer hypoxia effects without recognizing it. On this flight we were only for short periods above 12000 ft, max. near 13000 I think, but only for a minute or so. 😊
Please don’t write insanities about powers if you don’t know about helicopters.. there plenty of single engine helicopters more powerful than the B3 !! Bell 214, Kaman Kmax, AW119…
952 shp (710 kW) (There are some single engine choppers with some more horsepower but the H125 has in high altitude environment the best over all performance, that's the resaon I titled the video the way I did.)
@@Mrfabulous7 stunning. A turbojet--that is a lot of power from a lightweight engine. This vehicle has to be extremely light weight and a lot of power. I wonder how high a helicopter can fly? I thank you for sharing this.
@@Gumshrud1 The official altitude record, that still stands today is: 12'442 m (40'820 ft) reached by Jean Boulet with an SA315B Lama in 1972. The unofficial record is 12'954 m (42'500 ft) reached by Fred North with an AS350 B2 in 2002 (The AS350 B2 was a former, less powerful variant of the H125 in this video.). Landing and Takeoff on Mount Everest: 8'848 m (29'028 ft) flown by Didier Desalle with an AS350 B3 in 2005. This records are flown at low weight and low fuel, with more fuel and passengers or cargo you can't go so high and helicopters don't have a pressurized cabin, so you would have to carry with you and use oxygen bottles. Many helicopter types can't get that high like the H125 (former designation AS350) and the SA315B Lama, but the H125 is the altitude specialist today and the SA315B Lama was specially built for hot and high tasks and was the number one choice in mountainous countries in the past.
Not fans of helicopters or aviation eh? You drown out all the interesting stuff from the very beginning by overlaying LOUD MUSAC. Well I have great alpine helicopter scenery of my own , so I cold not rate this video lower than I do. Terrible.
If you ain't got nuttin' good to say, do oneself a favor and don't say anything. You'll be respected. It is easy to be critical, it is difficult to be creative.
I dont believe I could fly and observe this incredible landscape at the same time. My eyes are taking in more information than my brain can process. This place is absolutely beyond any words I can use to describe. How lucky you are to live in this utopia.
I agree.
Absolutely beautifl, I love the H125 (AS350). Thank you for the flight!!!! My only wish is that I was also in the cockpit, fly safe forever!!!!
Beautiful terrain. Thank you for the tour.
Beeindruckend, einfach nur beeindruckend. Sowohl der klasse Helicopter als auch die wunderschöne Schweiz, bzw. die unfassbaren Alpen. Super Video, ganz besonders weil ohne durchgehende Musikuntermalung.👍Vielen Dank fürs Teilen!🙂
The views are breathtaking ❤️
Super gmacht. Super Video Danke
.... would have been nice to be able to hear the instructor's comments via the intercom for the duration of this flight ... might have given more insight to what was going on ....
Bring back the Bell 214B...
this beauty of those 'wrinkles' on the Earths crust. well are overwhelming.
an impressive video.
You took me on a quality virtual excursion I've never experience before. Quite Impressive.
I love the B 2 A-star. Smooth flying aircraft 👍
its a B3
Fantastic! Very Nice 👏👏👏
Incredible view
THE SOUND
just great!!!!!!!!!!
The biggest problem with being a heli pilot is the economy of fuel. If you can get people who will pay more than your fuel, sure. Otherwise you are stuck in a loop where you have to supply villages like a bush pilot.
Although the craft is cool to learn, it might not be worth it to do economically.... no matter how much I want to after learning the lingo.
Seems like the yaw string froze over in a tangled-up position at around 17:55. It hardly moved after that until shortly before the first landing... If nothing it could serve as an excuse for the rather twitchy flying at higher altitudes as keeping the nose steady into the wind might have been a bit more challenging than normal :)
Anyway, awesome video! Gotta do a trial flight someday, too - growing a bit tired of wearing my VR goggles and repeatedly cursing at X-Plane for struggling to keep my FPS steady :)
The flying was sometimes a bit twitchy because there were quite strong winds and turbulence.
Magnífico 👏 👏 👏
1:30 hey mrfabulous. Where can I buy this red crew jacket? The best ever! Please let me know. Thanks
The pilot of the helicopter company wore it. If you want to know it, you have to ask Swiss Helicopter: www.swisshelicopter.ch 😊
Waren das 30 Minuten? Wollte das auch mal machen. Dürfest Du da schon selber den Pitch bedienen?
Waren 40 Minuten. Konnte den Cyclic, den Collective und die Pedale selbst bedienen. Halt je nach Flugsituation, Start und Landung hat der Fluglehrer übernommen.
Kann ich übrigens nur empfehlen auch mal zu machen. ;)
👌 👌 👌 love it!!
Da hätte ich auch mal Bock drauf....
This question is coming from a fixed wing pilot so bear with me, but I noticed the airspeeds dropping pretty low as you ascended around the valley peaks of the mountain region on your return leg. I know you are at around 800 hp on this incredible ship, but wouldn't it be better to have gone with a twin engine variant. If not, could you help me understand why? Thanks much.
A twin engine helicopter is more expensive and therefore costs more. Also the power to weight ratio is much worse with a twin engine helicopter. In a twin engine helicopter, you loose more lift/power due to the greater weight than you gain through more horsepower. So the single engine H125 (AS350) is the first choice in mountainous regions.
@@Mrfabulous7 Ooooh. Okay. That makes sense. So I would have to assume from that - twin engine applications would be best used for heavy loads then? Or simply for redundancy
@@MainbusfailTwin engine only for redundancy and some bigger heavier helicopters for which no sufficent single engine exists. AS350 single engine can lift more weight than it's twin engine variant the AS355. Single engine = better power to weight ratio = better hot and high performance = you can fly higher and climb faster and you can lift more weight, also at sealevel.
... kann man das einfach "buchen" oder wie läuft dat?
Ja, viele Hubschrauberfirmen bieten "Schnupperflüge" an, welche du wie ein Rundflug auch buchen kannst. Voraussetzung ist "nur", dass man bei "normaler" physischer und psychischer Gesundheit ist. Die Flugminuten können auch an eine angehende Pilotenausbildung angerechnet werden. :)
Only one engine. You hope it keeps going.
probably the best engine
Top! 😀
Bell 214B- 2950 HP.
Hmm, the most powerful civil single engine helicopter is the Agusta 119 with the P&WC PT6B-37A engine with 747 kW (1002 hp)
The most powerful civil single engine helicopter is Allison C30 equipped the MD530F with a weight/power ratio of 1:1. (686 kg to 630 hp)
Even the MD600N with the Allison C47M engine (840 hp, empty weight only 853 kg!) is way stronger than a B3e.
Not to be forget is the B407 (1201 kg ew)
And as far as I can remember, the latest AS350B3e (EW 1274 kg) has the Ariel 2D implemented from the EC130B4 (632kW /859 hp T/O Performance ) while the 130B4 (EW 1461 kg) got a engine upgrade to T2 (710 kW / 965 hp T/O Performance).
On the other hand, the wide cabin is not only heavy but also the Fenestron less powerful in thin air (H&H environment) than the regular AS350 T/R.
So, the most powerful single engine Eurocopter/Airbus helicopter weight/ratio might indeed be the AS350B3e with a basic empty weight of 165 kg less than the EC130.
But that has to be determined with the actual weight sheet on your RFM.
But I’m happy that you love flying helicopter and had the opportunity for a mountain flight with Swisscopter.
Thank you for pointing it out. I like constructive critic like this. I must admit it was more a thing for an interesting title. I was thinking about it, if I can use it, it shoudn't be clickbait. I was looking at the term „most powerful“ not in the way of pure engine power and not pure power to weight ratio (which is much more telling as the engine power), but more in terms of „hot and high“ performance. When we look at aerial work in mountainous countries, or even rescues, they use H125s. In Switzerland and Austria it is like this and also in Nepal, in the Everest-Region. For Everest rescues they only use B3s, (now called H125) and no single B407 or Agusta A119 or MD600.
I know about one B407 which is also used for sling load work in Switzerland.
But as you stated, for a specific case you have to check the performance charts in your RFM.
And I know in thin air also the type of the airfoil and the efficiency of the turbine in thin air matters.
I didn't check all the RFMs of every helicopter, but would bet that today the H125 performs best in thin air, at least in the class of small single engine helicopters.
At least, I think I can leave the title like that even when it isn't true in terms of engine performance and is also a bit spongy orherwise.
But we have to mention my favorite helicopter the SA315B Lama which was the high altitude king.
I wish I could see a test at h&h conditions together with the H125. When you check the charts and ask pilots who have flown both types at high altitude and under high temeperatures they state, that over 4000 meters the Lama outperforms still today a modern H125 in terms of lifting capacity. But only this parameter, it is slower, noisier, consumes more fuel and so on. But as it looks, it lifts more. I know about a pilots statement who has flown concrete to a construction side at 3900 meters. In cool conditions the Lama and the H125 both lifted the same weight, but on a warm summer day the Lama could lift more weight.
I really would like to know if the tables have turned, with the newest upgrades of the H125 but would guess they haven't. Because the Arriel 2D engine is still the same with the same characteristics in thin air, and also the airfoils are the same and so on. I think to beat the Lama, they have to design and develop a chopper especially for this purpose, the same as it was the case with the Lama. The Lama is slow, really slow, but beats them all in terms of lifting capacity in thin air. Most modern helicopters are also very heavy e.g. H130… The Lama weighs only 1100 kg with a 880 hp turbine reduced to 550 hp, but you have this power guaranteed available up to 13123 ft (4000 m) density altitude. Only from 4000 meters density altitude you are allowed to pull the maximum allowable pitch of the main rotor blades….
@@Mrfabulous7 If you need h&h for sling load, nothing outperformes a K-Max…
Nevertheless, the Lama is „The icon oh alpine Helicopters! But yes, it’s old…
I’d really love to see a sling competition between the B3e and the 600N. With equal power and 400 kg less EW…
They are all great machines.
Safe flying.
@@akkseljohansson3601 Yes of course they are. I also would book a place in the first row to see such a comparison. 😃🙌🏼
We can check such things through the RFMs but we do also know, that some machines can perform e.g. at higher altiutes than they are certified, so we can't compare under extreme situations. If you say now no one would do this, check Airbus Helicopters website, they make advertising with a rescue at 7800 meters (25590 ft) which is not allowed by the manufacture, it's unbelievable for me. I think it's great that someone has risked his life for antoher one, and made it even if it wasn't covered by the insurance, and was illegal. But I think it's not fair that a manufacturer use this achievement for marketing purposes, because if the pilot had failed, he would maybe loose his license and the manufacturer would highlight the fact, that the pilot didn't stick to the rules, and the company wouldn't appreciate it, but this is life.
u found the good stuff. the numbers speak volumes.
This is simply not correct. The 530F or FF is limited to to max continuous of 350hp with a transmission limit of 425hp for 5 mins. It does not matter how powerful the turbine is ‘on paper’. Basic c20b turbines with enhanced wheels can theoretically produce more than 650HP. What matters is the rating of the components and the subsequent performance figures. For example, the B3 can HOGE with 1,000kg at 3,800m (12,500ft) the 530F can HOGE at 3,300 (11,000ft) with 700kg. In the real world, the B3 is a monster and I’m a huge 500 fan. Your title is correct. The B3 would be no competition for a 600n lifting. I doubt you would find a pilot brave enough to sling load a 600n. There is a reason they are no longer made.
Excuse my ignorance but did you not need oxygen at that altitude?
I am not familiar with the legislation on this subject here in Switzerland, as I am not a pilot myself. But I think below 12000 ft you don't need by law and the pilots work every day at high altitudes and much people do live at higher altitudes in the mountains and it doesn't feel so high for most of us. But yes I know, there lies the danger. You can suffer hypoxia effects without recognizing it. On this flight we were only for short periods above 12000 ft, max. near 13000 I think, but only for a minute or so. 😊
I don't know the nomenclature. I presume shaft HP is similar to Brake HP in automobiles. geared up to 2,700 HP. Taxable HP 878.
no
@@naughtyUphillboy THis is so impressive I try to understamd the logistics.
@@Gumshrud1 ☺
@@Gumshrud1 ☺
This is Robinson R44 territory 😛
Please don’t write insanities about powers if you don’t know about helicopters.. there plenty of single engine helicopters more powerful than the B3 !!
Bell 214, Kaman Kmax, AW119…
Hay un sonido extraño 😔
War das ein Schulungsflug?
Das war ein Schnupperflug.
how much horsepower?
952 shp (710 kW) (There are some single engine choppers with some more horsepower but the H125 has in high altitude environment the best over all performance, that's the resaon I titled the video the way I did.)
@@Mrfabulous7 stunning. A turbojet--that is a lot of power from a lightweight engine. This vehicle has to be extremely light weight and a lot of power.
I wonder how high a helicopter can fly?
I thank you for sharing this.
@@Gumshrud1 The official altitude record, that still stands today is: 12'442 m (40'820 ft) reached by Jean Boulet with an SA315B Lama in 1972.
The unofficial record is 12'954 m (42'500 ft) reached by Fred North with an AS350 B2 in 2002 (The AS350 B2 was a former, less powerful variant of the H125 in this video.).
Landing and Takeoff on Mount Everest: 8'848 m (29'028 ft) flown by Didier Desalle with an AS350 B3 in 2005.
This records are flown at low weight and low fuel, with more fuel and passengers or cargo you can't go so high and helicopters don't have a pressurized cabin, so you would have to carry with you and use oxygen bottles.
Many helicopter types can't get that high like the H125 (former designation AS350) and the SA315B Lama, but the H125 is the altitude specialist today and the SA315B Lama was specially built for hot and high tasks and was the number one choice in mountainous countries in the past.
@@Mrfabulous7 TY so much. I love these statistics.
You're welcome!
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Shut the music off!
Breathtaking views ruined by idiotic music. 🙄
Not fans of helicopters or aviation eh? You drown out all the interesting stuff from the very beginning by overlaying LOUD MUSAC. Well I have great alpine helicopter scenery of my own , so I cold not rate this video lower than I do. Terrible.
Woow, only in the beginning, no music later on. But okay it's your opinion.
Wtf dude, go and seek for a therapist
turn sound down and put on a good Tull song like, 'Michael Collins, Jeffery, and me.'
If you ain't got nuttin' good to say, do oneself a favor and don't say anything. You'll be respected.
It is easy to be critical, it is difficult to be creative.
I respectfully disagree.