Nissan Takes the Tesla Approach with Its Integration on the Ariya

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  • Опубліковано 20 вер 2024

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  • @johnpoldo8817
    @johnpoldo8817 11 місяців тому +19

    Walker did an excellent job describing his experiences. Jordan is so articulate and a pleasure to hear. Easy to see why he is a director at Munro.

  • @stephanematis
    @stephanematis 11 місяців тому +10

    Excellent duo and great sense that Jordan wants Walker to lead with his observations. Mentoring 101 right here.

  • @pxidr
    @pxidr 11 місяців тому +31

    That EESM drivetrain was initially developped by Renault in the Zoe, the exact same powertrain is also used in the Renault Megane Etech.
    Cool thing it's that enables 22kW AC charging, they use the windings of the motor stator as chokes for AC/DC conversion

    • @negofol5278
      @negofol5278 11 місяців тому +6

      And introduced in 2011, so plenty of experience...

    • @денисбаженов-щ1б
      @денисбаженов-щ1б 11 місяців тому +4

      Really? I was thinking it was made by the Japanese? Zoe was so innovative back then....

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 11 місяців тому +1

      Spoilers , its very CRAPPY.

    • @pxidr
      @pxidr 11 місяців тому +6

      @@markplott4820 Not at all, it's very efficient and don't use rare earth magnets.

    • @Mabeylater293
      @Mabeylater293 11 місяців тому

      I knew their unreliable tentacles were all over this. Renault = Nissan = JUNK!!!!!! Renault has a history with turning Nissan into junk. DO NOT BUY!!!

  • @martinutr
    @martinutr 11 місяців тому +24

    Good to know that Nissan is still innovating. Too bad that the company didn’t go bigger into EVs after they introduced the LEAF. I know they released an electric version of their small utility van but it did not come to North America. Hopefully they will be able to get into the EV sector before it is too late.

    • @sajiantony7473
      @sajiantony7473 6 місяців тому

      It might have been due the internal tension they had for a while at the leadership level topped up with covid.

  • @b4804514
    @b4804514 11 місяців тому +76

    Guys I have to say driving a Tesla No buttons and knobs is luxury to me. Having it all in one place and with voice commands. The only thing i have to move is the drive selector. No start stop button, walk away lockup, camera security, best app software ever. I can find my car now every time. These are all luxury touches to me.

    • @PleeseCallMeDan
      @PleeseCallMeDan 11 місяців тому +12

      Found Elons account. That’s probably his next son’s name.

    • @lomed
      @lomed 11 місяців тому +5

      Agree

    • @abdulshabazz8597
      @abdulshabazz8597 11 місяців тому +4

      I agree as long as it's safe: the integrated turn-signal directional / indicators are still an issue for me. The concept of their operation seems half-baked and not as well thought out. If they intended its functionality to supplement their navigation workflow, such that the FSD package was informed of the driver's destination, they still should not have approved the change until after the level 5 FSD package was approved by regulators.

    • @douglasalanthompson
      @douglasalanthompson 11 місяців тому +10

      Not a fan of the minimalist. As a Buck Rodgers and Star Wars kid, need buttons.

    • @DoingthingswithDAN
      @DoingthingswithDAN 11 місяців тому +3

      Only issue I have with buttons is the amount of wiring and parts it requires for just 1 button. Take about 6 wires that have to reach a controller and 3 pieces of plastic not counting the actual electrical portion of the button itself. All that just to "partially" turn off traction control. Multiply that by 5 to 10 buttons turns into spaghetti behind the dash

  • @bondhuis
    @bondhuis 11 місяців тому +17

    Really nice and enjoyable presentation, and the two of you made a great duo.

    • @MunroLive
      @MunroLive  11 місяців тому +7

      Glad you think so!

  • @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
    @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 11 місяців тому +14

    🙋‍♂️THANKS JORDAN,WALKER, AND ALL THE REST OF THE MUNRO TEAM FOR SHARING THIS 🤗💚💚💚

    • @MunroLive
      @MunroLive  11 місяців тому +3

      Thanks for watching!

    • @xjdisuehd
      @xjdisuehd 11 місяців тому +2

      Forgot to thank Sandy for his guest appearance.

  • @lreidiii
    @lreidiii 11 місяців тому +16

    Great cameo appearance by Sandy!

    • @tomcrouchman
      @tomcrouchman 11 місяців тому +3

      He didn't want anything to do with this piece of crap.

    • @richardkule9384
      @richardkule9384 11 місяців тому

      He was looking for Cory.

    • @sajiantony7473
      @sajiantony7473 6 місяців тому

      @@tomcrouchman Too biased to Tesla despite all its flaws.

    • @TomCrouchman.
      @TomCrouchman. 5 місяців тому

      @@sajiantony7473 really? please explain? tesla is the world leader in EV's and no one is even close. Tesla will run away with the market. NO one has a chance. All cars sold in the western world will be Tesla inside just like Intel inside computers. Tesla has won the game already.

    • @ERIKM-ed9ef
      @ERIKM-ed9ef Місяць тому

      Hey at least Tesla replaced two of my AC compressors under warranty.

  • @americanrambler4972
    @americanrambler4972 10 місяців тому +4

    Dashboard storage boxes. What a novel 1940’s and 1950’s standard feature return.

  • @StubbyStan28
    @StubbyStan28 11 місяців тому +7

    I love my Ariya (Platinum+). If I don't think about the price my biggest issue is the software. E-step is fine but the lack of true one pedal is a miss. Funny thing is that the vehicle will come to a complete stop & resume during adaptive cruise control. Great video!

    • @handsofdoubt31
      @handsofdoubt31 11 місяців тому +4

      I was thinking the same. Just wait for the auto brake to kick in and there is your one pedal driving ;)

  • @paulaxford6754
    @paulaxford6754 11 місяців тому +10

    Perhaps less "vertically-successful" but Jordan is an excellent orator, and that's what counts here. Thanks lots for the video, guys! Will we have an underside video?

  • @richardbrice6535
    @richardbrice6535 11 місяців тому +5

    I met Chris and Julie in Trujillo Peru. They are driving the Ariya on their Pole to Pole adventure. Seems to be a very capable vehicle.

  • @alanrogers7090
    @alanrogers7090 11 місяців тому +5

    To my mind, Teslas aren't "simpler", they are Spartan. Nothing to get in the way to a driving experience besides a functional platform. Bling is extratranious. Dials and a multplicity of switches and knobs are not needed. There are many other cars inthe price point that offer those features, but they can't meet or match the efficiency and lower total cost of ownership and speed of charging that comes with a Tesla. Don't complain about the minimalist interior, embrace it. My one complaint, and it isn't just Tesla, is the use of "Piano Black" which is a fingerprint magnet.

  • @TerjeL
    @TerjeL 11 місяців тому +13

    Absolutely love this video.
    This two is solid together 👌

  • @bernesto2468
    @bernesto2468 11 місяців тому +6

    While they did not mention it the EESM motor eliminates the rare earth neodymium magnets which is a big cost adder and as they mentioned a supply chain constraint

    • @ClockworksOfGL
      @ClockworksOfGL 11 місяців тому +2

      It depends if the cost of the additional battery capacity isn’t overshadowed by the rare earth costs. Neodymium motors are almost always more efficient, which translates to less battery needed for the same range.

    • @Cosmycal
      @Cosmycal 10 місяців тому

      ​@@ClockworksOfGLCorrect, but batteries will get cheaper with time, rare earths not so much.

  • @EricP36
    @EricP36 11 місяців тому +3

    Great video guys! Thanks

    • @MunroLive
      @MunroLive  11 місяців тому +1

      Our pleasure!

  • @nononsenseBennett
    @nononsenseBennett 11 місяців тому +7

    I love Nissan products I've owned several Maxima's and recently acquired a 2000 Infiniti i30. Highly under rated in my opinion. Super reliable, durable and inexpensive repairs (which were few) I hope the Aryiya gets traction in the EV market.

    • @kitecattestecke2303
      @kitecattestecke2303 11 місяців тому +1

      It will for sure
      The cabin is nice and it is cheaper than Tesla. The tester said it is nice cabin to be in that says it all and it is front wheel drive which is very safe in winter snow/rain for daily driver

    • @ClockworksOfGL
      @ClockworksOfGL 11 місяців тому +5

      Nissan has been making junk for years. But with Carlos Ghosn gone, the Japanese are back to running the show and quality should hopefully improve.

  • @sajiantony7473
    @sajiantony7473 6 місяців тому +1

    As a Ariya Platinum user, I have to say Nissan's choice of materials to make the vehicle as light as possible is impressive.

  • @spankeyfish
    @spankeyfish 11 місяців тому +9

    A flaw in the 'bench' footwell design is that anything you put in the passenger footwell can potentially make its way to the pedals.

    • @StubbyStan28
      @StubbyStan28 11 місяців тому +4

      I've put over 12K miles in an Ariya and that has never happened to me.

    • @handsofdoubt31
      @handsofdoubt31 11 місяців тому +3

      @@StubbyStan28 Because we're not in the habit of leaving items randomly on the floor in our cars. I wouldn't do that in any car.

  • @atheron1776
    @atheron1776 11 місяців тому +12

    The single footwell in the front seems like a really bad idea. I don't think it is particularly uncommon for a driver to set things like shopping bags and purses on the passenger side floor. Doing so in this car could result in things rolling/sliding into the driver's side blocking pedal access.

    • @Cosmycal
      @Cosmycal 10 місяців тому

      Not a problem, if you want yo car order an accesory that adds an additional storage compartment that divides the footwell if you prefer it that way.

  • @airheart1
    @airheart1 11 місяців тому +20

    Visually.. nice design.. bang for the buck in tech, performance and efficiency in everything else compared to a model Y.. a mess. You want to spend more to get some visual design you prefer.. but less of everything else lol.. go for it. Considering the actual sales of these vs model Y.. I think most people prefer Tesla's approach of more for less. Yeah.. it comes with some sacrifices imbedded with simplicity for production.. but it comes with a LOT of better tech, efficiency in everything and performance. An EV of this size to have less space and no frunk vs the Y AND still cost more, is just inexcusable poor design.. way to go with the HVAC design though.. but why is everything else taking up so much more room than other vehicles? Tesla has frunks.. Ford has frunks.. even KIa and Hyundai have small frunks.. why does Nissan and so many others have 0 space? lol. Bad engineering. And being a front wheel drive EV.. bleh.. terrible idea.

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 11 місяців тому +8

      MODEL Y is a Better vehicle w/ MORE use cases than ARIYA.
      Model Y is more Efficient , LIGHTER weight , Longer Range .
      at least the ARIYA uses CCS , instead of DEAD Chademo , but Does not use Superior NACS.

    • @Lifecoach7Ra
      @Lifecoach7Ra 11 місяців тому +4

      At the price the Ariya e4orce 87 kWh costs in Switzerland I rather buy a Tesla Model Y or similar and also more advanced 800 Volts E-GMP cars from Koreans. Renault and Nissan are similar to the iD of Volkswagen, Skoda, Cupra and Audi - besides of the eTron GT costing three times as much - already outdated EV. BMW and Mercedes only partially competitive also costing double or triple the price with all in my Kia EV6 AWD has. Performance is great and I drive with an average of 16,7 kWh per 100 km since May 2022 when the Ariya should have been delivered. Communication with Nissan was very poor and the company seems to have big problems also for VIP customers owning a GTR - for electronics we had to go to a Hong Kong startup for some updated version in a 150‘000 USD car. So we do not think anymore that Nissan could survive with too expensive and mediocre products. Don’t get me wrong the Ariya is not a bad car if price would be down by 20‘000 USD😂

    • @Cosmycal
      @Cosmycal 10 місяців тому +1

      Wrong, there crates and box test on the Model Y and Ariya and they're pretty in line with the same cargo capacity, even with some box sizes the Ariya is capable of more cargo only with his trunk than a Model Y with trunk and frunk. So...

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 10 місяців тому

      @@Cosmycal - Aryia is LESS Efficient than model Y , and cant TOW 3500 lbs.
      Aryia is too HEAVY and has LESS range w/ Full Passengers + Cargo.
      TESLA model Y LR still BEST option.

  • @nanakowwalker-arthur8007
    @nanakowwalker-arthur8007 11 місяців тому +9

    I loved Jordan's sense of humor with his "vertically successful" quote 😅.
    I guess that makes him humanly successful 😉

  • @vwasson6725
    @vwasson6725 11 місяців тому +28

    Nice looking vehicle. Not enough bang for the buck though compared to Tesla. Making progress though.

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 11 місяців тому +13

      Nissan made huge Mistake with ARIYA .
      too Expensive & too Bloated.
      they , Should have just made the LEAF Better.

    • @handsofdoubt31
      @handsofdoubt31 11 місяців тому +1

      @@markplott4820 Depends on your perspective. If you're talking market share then maybe. But that doesn't make the Ariya a bad vehicle or a bad choice. Whilst I have nothing against Tesla as a company their cars are not for me. I want some physical buttons......I want indicator stalks. I also don't want to smack my knee on a central screen all the time. I wouldn't even consider trading my Ariya for a MY. Different cars for different tastes.

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 11 місяців тому

      @@handsofdoubt31 - just makes the ARYIIA less SAFE than any TESLA , with POOR sales.
      the LACK of Intergration , speaks Volumes.
      the R/N/M alliance wont LAST , they will be Absorbed.

  • @calholli
    @calholli 11 місяців тому +2

    For me, if it's not rubber, cloth, leather, wood or metal: then It's plastic. :)
    You can get into all the science of different materials, G10, carbon fiber, fiber glass, polycarbonate, resins, etc. but it's all essentially the same to me. So I always find it funny when people talk trash about "plastic", yet they can talk favorably about similar materials that are supposed to somehow be "premium", like carbon fiber. The subjective realm of aesthetics just gets kinda silly to me.

  • @nononsenseBennett
    @nononsenseBennett 11 місяців тому +8

    I often wonder about the brake light issue. Good idea.

    • @nihongobenkyoshimasu3190
      @nihongobenkyoshimasu3190 11 місяців тому +1

      On a Tesla, the 3D car image representation shows the tail lights on when they are activated.

  • @zroger73
    @zroger73 11 місяців тому +2

    Every time Jordan says "right" is like nails on a chalkboard to me. The word "right" appears 72 times in the transcript in 29 minutes!

    • @MunroLive
      @MunroLive  11 місяців тому +1

      I know, right.

    • @zroger73
      @zroger73 11 місяців тому

      @@MunroLive, I enjoy much of the information presented on this channel, but this habit/compulsion/characteristic of unnecessarily adding the word "right" is simply too distracting for me to be able to watch this entire video.

    • @jmarxful
      @jmarxful 5 місяців тому

      Right?

  • @steveallwine1443
    @steveallwine1443 11 місяців тому +2

    Is this a model with the ProPilot 2.0 system? I haven’t seen anyone take a close look at the engineering of how they stuffed the self driving computer behind the rear seat, along with a 2nd, dedicated 12v battery for that computer in the back.

  • @mike168168
    @mike168168 11 місяців тому +7

    Test drove the Ariya. The screen would show you the gas stations but not the chargers. Thought that was silly and the software needed more work.

    • @handsofdoubt31
      @handsofdoubt31 11 місяців тому +1

      The software is a little hit and miss. The satnav is definitely a miss. It's TomTom and basically rubbish. But android auto/apple play takes care of that :)

    • @kajko6868
      @kajko6868 11 місяців тому +1

      It was not activated in NissanConnect in that case.

    • @Cosmycal
      @Cosmycal 10 місяців тому

      My Ariya definitely shows chargers on road.

    • @handsofdoubt31
      @handsofdoubt31 10 місяців тому

      @@CosmycalI rarely use the native sat nav. But I had a play with it the other day and it was displaying charger locations

    • @sajiantony7473
      @sajiantony7473 6 місяців тому

      You're lying or drove a prototype.

  • @robpersons
    @robpersons 11 місяців тому +2

    Supper efficient review. You guys are really good together.

    • @MunroLive
      @MunroLive  11 місяців тому

      Thank you kindly!

  • @EricP36
    @EricP36 11 місяців тому +12

    Should’ve had a Sandy counter. He walked by at least 3 times!

    • @nickmcconnell1291
      @nickmcconnell1291 11 місяців тому

      We see now why Sandy can drink beer and not gain weight!

    • @townhouserenton1893
      @townhouserenton1893 10 місяців тому

      Sandy is channeling Hitchcock, doing cameo in every podcast from now on .

  • @DannyCzech
    @DannyCzech 11 місяців тому +5

    5:39 Sandy easter egg 😆

  • @harriettanthony7352
    @harriettanthony7352 11 місяців тому +4

    Hey 'kids" of this video[and out there} this writer and others can remember when the blower motor was in the engine bay till circa the 1970s. Then the car makers stuck it, no, make that buried it, under the dash. The reason, more money to repair the ^%$$@ thing when it failed. Even more money to repair if it leaked into the cabin. Its past time to put it where the Aryia has it.

  • @Indy_at_the_beach
    @Indy_at_the_beach 11 місяців тому +2

    Sandy walking in the background was like video Where's Waldo.

  • @ghostindamachine
    @ghostindamachine 11 місяців тому +1

    Superb walk through!

    • @MunroLive
      @MunroLive  11 місяців тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Kyzyl_Tuva
    @Kyzyl_Tuva 11 місяців тому +1

    Great job guys. Jordan’s videos are the best!

    • @MunroLive
      @MunroLive  11 місяців тому +1

      We agree!

    • @michaelahern3006
      @michaelahern3006 11 місяців тому +1

      So nice to get a good solid review from technically astute individuals. Very interesting, Thanks

  • @peternguyen2323
    @peternguyen2323 11 місяців тому +5

    Need to make the Sakura EV available in America to replace the Leaf model. Make it affordable at 18k to 22K and two body style. A mini people mover and a 2 doors extended cab mini pickup.

    • @NotNowLater
      @NotNowLater 11 місяців тому +2

      Taking a look at the Sakura which is a Japanese kei car but for such a low price with its major features. It would sell well here. Around $14,000 110 miles EPA, 80mph, its a four door people mover. Minimial styling in side but has what you need. Especially at the low price.

  • @Bay-Smidt
    @Bay-Smidt 10 місяців тому +2

    #Ariya 😎👍with #e4ORCE 🏆

  • @johnnyv5995
    @johnnyv5995 11 місяців тому +4

    Great job Gentlemen!

  • @dr-k1667
    @dr-k1667 11 місяців тому +8

    As long as the wheels stay on this time, I think many Nissan fans will be happy with this EV if they are brand conscious and brand loyal. If you look around though in this price and category... some will make a different choice. What is most important is that their is choice in the market and that Nissan has come to the party. I hope they will continue to improve and LISTEN to the feedback many customers and experts like this review has for them!

    • @StubbyStan28
      @StubbyStan28 11 місяців тому +6

      Toyota had the vehicle where the wheels fell off. That was the BZ4X.

    • @dr-k1667
      @dr-k1667 11 місяців тому

      Correct but at this point that is the bar that Nissan has to out due when it comes to a Japanese automaker bringing an EV to market that has to compete with Tesla. @@StubbyStan28

  • @lenimbery7038
    @lenimbery7038 11 місяців тому +6

    I like the full frame doors which make for much better wind noise avoidance...something Tesla should have done. Also it's a simpler design which I'm surprised that tesla ignored in this case

    • @GVGVIT
      @GVGVIT 11 місяців тому +1

      Full frame doors should not exist. They're fugly.

    • @lenimbery7038
      @lenimbery7038 11 місяців тому +5

      @@GVGVIT fugly but functionally superior

  • @gelisob
    @gelisob 11 місяців тому +4

    6:05 "what is your opinion on the buttons?"
    .. slides fingers over and activates stuff accidentally..
    nuff said? :D

  • @johnpoldo8817
    @johnpoldo8817 11 місяців тому +1

    When does a module become a monument? Does it require height? We have a large number of monuments under the hood. Automotive terminology surely is creative.

  • @JD-nw1jl
    @JD-nw1jl 11 місяців тому +1

    Would you please review / analyse the Subaru Solterra next?

  •  11 місяців тому +1

    5:39 wild Sandy sighting

  • @BlackBuck777
    @BlackBuck777 11 місяців тому +1

    I like this car. Some good points, some strange - a lot of wasted space in the front cabin, for sure.
    Looking at the "office", those "buttons" - when will manufacturers get it into their thick heads that physical buttons are really, really good?.
    When you're driving, especially at night, the last thing you need to be doing is checking which "tactile" piece of flat plastic you've hit. The location and/or feel of physical buttons is quickly learned and they then can be accessed accurately and without looking. Unless they're going to put more buttons on the steering wheel (as if the amount there already isn't confusing enough) this is a definite problem.
    Glad Walker brought up the brake light issue on my car I'm never 100% sure on regen whether or not the brake lights are on! Can be scary.

    • @sajiantony7473
      @sajiantony7473 6 місяців тому +1

      "a lot of wasted space in the front cabin" - that is my wife's favorite location for her handbag.

  • @etbadaboum
    @etbadaboum 11 місяців тому +1

    CMF EV is a great platform

  • @денисбаженов-щ1б
    @денисбаженов-щ1б 11 місяців тому +3

    Please tell more about the motor. I've heard MB also developed a new generation of EV motor not using rare Earth magnets. We don't know what China could decide in the future - controlling most of magnets supply.

  • @mattjenkins2244
    @mattjenkins2244 11 місяців тому +3

    Bring Walker back for the next one!

  • @freeaccess5905
    @freeaccess5905 11 місяців тому +2

    Nice to see Nissan innovations. Get tired of always hearing about Tesla this, Tesla that.... Also, switches and instrument panels are not "legacy" usage when they are intended to improve the driver experience and are more user friendly. Just because some designs are easier to build, doesn't mean they improve the driving experience.

  • @WANDERER0070
    @WANDERER0070 11 місяців тому +1

    Hey Nisan when is electric GTR comin ?

  • @davincisghost9228
    @davincisghost9228 11 місяців тому

    Interesting choices and a little bit flattering. Nice.

  • @meathead585
    @meathead585 11 місяців тому +1

    i believe the brake pedal moving away from you when you don't expect it is a Mercedes complaint as well.

  • @Top12Boardsport
    @Top12Boardsport 5 місяців тому

    Software, charging speed LFP, Superchargers, frunkspace, AP and Y is the clear winner.

  • @abdulshabazz8597
    @abdulshabazz8597 11 місяців тому +1

    The externally excitable magnetic is far from an energy efficient design. It could theoretically generate more flux than a Tesla motor of the same size if they can manage the thermals.

  • @gna89
    @gna89 11 місяців тому +3

    Nice video

  • @MechayaAlta
    @MechayaAlta 11 місяців тому

    I know it’s not the newest sexiest technology, but we love our frugal 2022 Nissan Leaf SV plus. It has a solid metal (no glass) roof, frame doors, blind spot monitor, real buttons, surround view camera, heat pump, one pedal drive and more. That and our 2023 Subaru Outback together cost about $63 K.

  • @danielgonzalezramos4933
    @danielgonzalezramos4933 4 місяці тому

    Will you guys be doing a teardown on this Ariya?

  • @godofdun
    @godofdun 11 місяців тому +3

    Was wondering if this was a glorified compliance car under the hood. Glad to see I was wrong! Really like much of what they did hear.

    • @cyclopsvision6370
      @cyclopsvision6370 11 місяців тому

      Nissan had the Leaf many year ago, they had lots of time to do R&D, and they designed a vehicle in 2023 that doesn't even have a frunk 🤦‍♂

    • @godofdun
      @godofdun 11 місяців тому +4

      @@cyclopsvision6370 My car has a frunk, I personally don't find it very useful. If others want it that's their business, I'd rather something where the front is smaller like Nissan did here so more space inside can be available.

    • @Cosmycal
      @Cosmycal 10 місяців тому

      ​@@godofdunSame

  • @Mercer1012
    @Mercer1012 4 дні тому

    God look at how wide that center camera is on the windshield!

  • @etbadaboum
    @etbadaboum 11 місяців тому +1

    Nissan has worked on EVs for more than ten years and it shows

  • @xbahn
    @xbahn 11 місяців тому +3

    It's great to see the marketing department participating in the development of these vehicles, and adding valuable features like the bootup jingle with their slogan and animation. Fast forward a couple more years and we'll get those backlit logos on the side of these cars like we have all been asking for.

  • @sausage5849
    @sausage5849 10 місяців тому

    Datsun incredible!

  • @edgarmuller6652
    @edgarmuller6652 11 місяців тому +3

    I hope that in the future more OEM’s would produce quality vehicles for reasonable price. 60K?

    • @javelinadad
      @javelinadad 11 місяців тому +2

      I did a quick search and the closest inventory to me (Houston area), none had an MSRP of even $50K. They were all in the 40's. So I don't know if I would peg these as $60k

  • @ChicagoBob123
    @ChicagoBob123 11 місяців тому +17

    Sad the Ariya charging speed is poor, acceleration is not EV like and the price is way too high for the range you get.

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 11 місяців тому +1

      MOST people charge overnight on 240v, not at FAST chargers.

    • @JT_771
      @JT_771 11 місяців тому

      @@markplott4820 While that is of course true, it hurts anyone that might use this vehicle for trips. This was Nissan's first shot to redeem themselves from the mess that is the Leaf. And while they did ok, it has some noteworthy shortcomings and certainly isn't worth the price being asked.

    • @cyclopsvision6370
      @cyclopsvision6370 11 місяців тому +1

      @@markplott4820 most people? who are these people you are referring to?

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 11 місяців тому

      @@cyclopsvision6370 - everyone with Homes.

    • @ChicagoBob123
      @ChicagoBob123 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@markplott4820 At that cost it should do everything. Charge fast for trips, don't you want to take your EV on a trip? Accelerate quick at all speeds. 0 to 60 included. Front wheel drive, being pulled, in an EV feels wrong. RWD in an EV, being pushed, feels right. We have not even got into battery preconditioning, trip planning and all the stuff needed for an EV to be a great machine. Nisan be the one most aware of all of this making the Leaf years ago. Then there is the cost.. Its too steep.

  • @Clark-Mills
    @Clark-Mills 11 місяців тому +1

    Battery thermal management yet? Maybe covered in a future video...

    • @MunroLive
      @MunroLive  11 місяців тому +2

      In a future video!

  • @negofol5278
    @negofol5278 11 місяців тому +1

    Testers report that, if the DC max charge power is not impressive, the recharging curve is unusually flat, making for a competitive recharging time...

    • @davidmenasco5743
      @davidmenasco5743 11 місяців тому

      Bjørn Nyland did all kinds of testing and reviews. He found it to be an ok EV.
      The basic version did around 11 hours on the 1,000 km Challenge. The Toyota bZ4x took 14 hours.

  • @jamescalbert4958
    @jamescalbert4958 10 місяців тому

    The moveable center console is a godsend for anyone 6'4"! I've got a permanent divot in my knee from my Leaf!

  • @bigdougscommentary5719
    @bigdougscommentary5719 11 місяців тому +4

    The manual hood strut screams luxury. Sarcasm if you missed it.

    • @jamesengland7461
      @jamesengland7461 11 місяців тому +2

      It's an ev. You nearly never need to open the hood

  • @Erwinhooi
    @Erwinhooi 11 місяців тому

    This car does have E-Pedal to regen to a full stop, not? at Ariya the button for it is at the center console...

  • @cyberoptic5757
    @cyberoptic5757 11 місяців тому +1

    How many times did Sandy walk past at the other side of the room?

  • @bigdougscommentary5719
    @bigdougscommentary5719 11 місяців тому +2

    What is the drag coefficient with that flat roof?

  • @Starship007
    @Starship007 11 місяців тому

    Glass roof of Tesla gives great head room in backseat

  • @V10PDTDI
    @V10PDTDI 11 місяців тому

    you guy's mentioned that the Nissan had more head room than the VW id4 go and check it out the rear leg room and cargo space is larger on the VW plus the heating system VW came out with that first on the ID3 open the hood on a id4 and you will see that the fan and cabin filter is under the hood but it might not be used as a crush component like the NISSAN plus the id4 is rear wheel drive when it has a single motor.

  • @Karl-Benny
    @Karl-Benny 11 місяців тому

    They Look Easy to Find

  • @PhillipStewartYYZ
    @PhillipStewartYYZ 10 місяців тому

    Sandy walks by at 5:13

  • @Gorgula
    @Gorgula 11 місяців тому +1

    Competition is coming™

  • @peteregan3862
    @peteregan3862 11 місяців тому

    I like the underhood packing concept even though the systems packaging is far more crude than Teslas. HVAC all together is good. inverters separated from motors which saves on casing. Inverter and motor can be upgraded separately. Could have two electronics packages HV and LV. The brakes could be bought inboard and mounted to the motor. There is less happening at the wheels and could have aero-covers both sides of the wheel.

  • @iseeyourschwarz8973
    @iseeyourschwarz8973 11 місяців тому +1

    It's funny, I have 2 EV's in my family and plenty of friends with model 3's/ Y's, and other than storing charging cables no-one uses their frunk. That said if you bought a truck EV I think you'd use it all the time for shopping, travel bags etc vs the bed

  • @raymondrynehart
    @raymondrynehart 11 місяців тому +1

    hope they get rid of the CHAdeMO connector, to let you know of how useless it is in Australia. looking at data, out of 83,000 EV's in Australia about 2150 are Nissan, so you can Imagin the unnecessary cost outside of tesla super charges that every charge point has a CHAdeMO connector included just in case a Nissan needs charging.

  • @DavidHRyall
    @DavidHRyall 11 місяців тому

    17:17 .....where did the phone go? Is he a Wizard?!?

  • @mebran1193
    @mebran1193 11 місяців тому +2

    So many little improvements during this transition

  • @markplott4820
    @markplott4820 11 місяців тому +3

    MUNRO live - Nissan ARYIA is built too Complex, that Power Center console is one of FIRST things to BREAKA.

  • @gazlives
    @gazlives 11 місяців тому +10

    they've somehow managed to make from under the hood look like an ICE vehicle including having the old fashioned mettle prop to hold up the hood.

    • @simson4t
      @simson4t 11 місяців тому +4

      Since there is no frunk, and no Engine oil to check, there is no reason to open the hood, except refilling the washer fluid. It's reasonable cost cutting to not use gas struts

    • @kitecattestecke2303
      @kitecattestecke2303 11 місяців тому

      ​@@simson4tno strut and fill hole for fluid would have be enough 😂
      No honestly the tester said it is a very nice cabin to be in so it is nice car😮

  • @juiceofsapho
    @juiceofsapho 11 місяців тому +1

    "Externally excited" or "electrically excited", whatever you call it, it is one of the earliest AC motor designs used in the industry, starting from the late 19th century. You can find many examples of these motors on the youtube (ie ua-cam.com/video/fNuI6keQXYA/v-deo.html).
    The advantage over PM AC (they are both synchronous machines), beside lower cost, is that the field can be modified depending on the working condition yielding better characteristics in some working conditions, but it has lower maximum efficiency since you need to apply some small power to generate the field.

  • @G09534
    @G09534 11 місяців тому

    Nissan and Renault are in an alliance so no surprise that you see this on Renault Zoe and Smart for 2 since Smart is done now also by Renault on Twingo platform

  • @ohhs7830
    @ohhs7830 11 місяців тому +2

    The buttons seem too small and close together on the bezel. Functionally grouping the buttons would be better instead of spreading them uniformly. I wonder what the body wind resistance is since that's such an important factor for an EV. A manual hood strut seems cheap for this trim level. Brake light indicator is a nice feature. I know it's a Press vehicle but missed the undercarriage view. Is no frunk important to EV buyers ? Overall good review, thank you for your time.

  • @AV-hx1bm
    @AV-hx1bm 11 місяців тому

    please do MG4 Trophy

  • @jamesbruce1183
    @jamesbruce1183 11 місяців тому

    That 12V battery looks huge. And is that a fuse box?

  • @timsteinkamp2245
    @timsteinkamp2245 4 місяці тому

    Kill two birds with one stone? What do you have against birds? Having a Tesla approach is fine but what about cost of repair? I don't own electric but have wondered about the brake light situation. It used to be if you didn't want to show brake lights you could downshift or even use emergency brakes. We may need three lights for accelerate, coast and brake.

  • @universeisundernoobligatio3283
    @universeisundernoobligatio3283 11 місяців тому

    It takes amps from the battery to excite the magnet less rotor, amps that are not available to drive the vehicle down the road.

  • @don.timeless4993
    @don.timeless4993 11 місяців тому +2

    focusing on making money at the expense of making good product is what will make some OEM go bankrupt. people are getting aware every day. externally excited motor means the motor will have brushes & that is not reliable. permanent magnets motor is reliable because they are brushless & less components

  • @Curbow5
    @Curbow5 11 місяців тому

    Was that Sandy at 5:13 doing a "Stan Lee"?

  • @surkhetvillager
    @surkhetvillager 11 місяців тому

    Hi Sandi!! 5:13

  • @markuswong
    @markuswong 11 місяців тому

    I thought that the most efficient heat pump designs were of the split type. Would Nissan's HVAC design imply a more severe range reduction when this car is operating in more extreme climates?

  • @michaels3003
    @michaels3003 5 місяців тому

    Monuments??? Like the Mount Trashmore?

  • @kimhunter9574
    @kimhunter9574 11 місяців тому

    I want one. In black

  • @MrQuay03
    @MrQuay03 11 місяців тому +1

    I would buy if these non-Tesla EVs are around $20k

  • @brunoheggli2888
    @brunoheggli2888 11 місяців тому +2

    Game over for Tesla!

    • @cyclopsvision6370
      @cyclopsvision6370 11 місяців тому

      It is game over, for Ariya, and the game didn't even start yet. It's 2023, and Nissan puts out this turd that doesn't even have AWD, and no frunk. That is just inexcusable.

    • @Cosmycal
      @Cosmycal 10 місяців тому

      ​@@cyclopsvision6370It does have an AWD variant, check your sources mate.

  • @averagerich8901
    @averagerich8901 11 місяців тому

    Was this before or after the recalls?

  • @mattkeefe3850
    @mattkeefe3850 11 місяців тому +2

    It is nice to see the depth of your bench Sandy and Cory!

    • @4literv6
      @4literv6 11 місяців тому +2

      Cory has been GONE from munro for months now and works as a director for lucid motors. 😏

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 11 місяців тому +2

      CORY is no longer @ MUNRO .
      Cory working for the SITH @ Looocid motors.