Honestly, as a wise game dev once said "Making a game based on real life murders is just really distasteful and just sad and messed up" and I totally agree with Scott Cawthon
Yeah like, Scott Cawthon might be a horribly misguided individual when it comes to politics, but he at least has the moral courtesy to not base his franchise on REAL murders. God damn...
The villain suddenly going from "I hope my son is okay 😢" to "Y'KNOW WHAT KILL ALL OF SOCIETY 🤬🤬🤬" over the span of one night instead of how the irl shooter declined slowly into insanity is such a "14 year old writing a creepypasta" thing that it makes the entire game come off as a joke
Which also makes it feel a bit more disrespectful and insensitive to the real murders, which is kinda shit sorry if the intention was to laugh, just thought people would look into it
I had never heard of the San Ysidro Massacre until today. It predates Columbine and yet it's apparently never brought up. For the common masses, the timeline for the plague for this kind of violence starts in 1999. And that's really sad. It took the same thing happening in a school to make a lasting impact on the public.
It's weird to think it happened 40 years back...But I first heard of it through Watchmojo's 2011 video of the deadliest mass shootings in the US and in the world. To this very day, The Las Vegas shooting is considered the worst in the world, having it be tied with the Norway bombing and camp shooting nearly 6 years prior to the Las Vegas massacre. To be honest, what peaked my interest into school shootings was a 2007 shooting that occurred somewhere in europe, and the weird thing is that I might have seen that person's youtube channel back in 2007 long before they were taken down, including the one where the shooter in 2007 had the photos of the school he toke but colored it over with the video software in red. But it wouldn't be until Rachael's Challenge, as well as the 2011 tsunami and earthquake incident in Japan, and watchmojo's video, that made me look into these shootings in the first place. To be honest, it's unfortunate how these tend to happen, especially at the school facilities. But I do think in my opinion, if you wish to stop shooters altogether, you might as well kill the shooters back before the individual has the chance to kill you in real life.
No the Hungerford massacre happened around the 70s or 80s and Dunblane and port Arthur happened weeks apart and the macas massacre happened and all of those predate 1999
The thing is, basing horror off of real world tragedies or crimes isnt always a bad thing For example, Ad Infinitum is based on World War 1 and the horrors of war as well as the lingering trauma felt by those involved but its executed extremely well The original texas chainsaw massacre is an absolute classic of horror media and it was partially inspired by the real case of Ed Gein Don't even get me started about how many times Jack the Ripper has been used in all kinds of media for inspiration The issue here is just how poorly its handled and how ham fisted it comes across, especially with how it handles the shooter himself and lack of tact in handling the events of the crime Theres not enough of a barrier between the real crime and the game story as well (like how Texas Chainsaw took some light inspiration from Ed Gein but made no direct ties to him aside from the graphic nature of his crime) It just comes off as extremely disrespectful and like zero consideration was taken for the victims whatsoever
THANK YOU!! I Was looking for a coment that says that since most are saying how these never work! It CAN end up working well but the creator of this game took everything about it and turned it into a badly written creepypasta that a 14 year old would write! While the shooter from the irl event slowly declined into insanity, the phone guy here is like "oh, my son's in the hospital i hope he's okay" and like 2-3 night later he's like "GRRRR SOCIETY HAD IT'S CHANGE (OMG HE SAID THE LINEEE) I'M KILLING EVERYONE NOW' which is disrespectful af to everyone involved: the family, the victims and the ones who actually died in this event. I wish all the victims the best and that this game goes to hell for how disrespectful it is to them.
Honestly the jumpscares and the phone call were the only reasons I even never forget this game. Everything else is just sorta typical standard fnaf stuff
I have a theory: the phone calls are prerecorded, & Night 1's phone call takes place after the shooting, while 2, 3, & 4 all take place before the shooting. Edit: I've got something to add onto that theory: the people who were killed in the shooting now possess the animatronics (there's 6 animatronics & 6 victims of the shooting). With this in mind, not only do most of the phone calls take place before the shooting, but also all of the phone calls in general take place before Night 1. So they're all prerecorded, so they're basically voice messages. I dunno what the phone guy was thinking with these voice messages, but he must be deranged as fuck!
True because four sounds more like the previous guy because one talked about the shooting if you did hear closely about being fired, angry, and saying a threat.
hearing that this horrific tragedy happened in san diego really hit me in a way. not from there, but from the neighboring state of arizona where san diego is a common vacation spot. grew up going there almost every summer, only having not been there 2 summers of my 2 decades of life. im really fond of the place, being an ocean lover growing up and a marine bio major now san diego has just always had a special place in my heart. rest in peace to everyone who died in that, i hope their families have found at least some peace since then.
It also worth noticing that there was some person along with team were planning to make full on Remastered version of Five nights at ronald by FreshDecimate. However it ended getting cancelled due to its internal instability as its been sitting in limbo and thus end the project.
@@GavinGone tho it sucks that the remastered was cancelled as it has so much potential as the remastered looks so good and its possible that they were planning on expanded and changing the story complely.
@BigTime-SkoomaDrinker I suppose but at the same time considering the descriptions of the page hinted that the shooting element would've returned, I would personally think that little would be changed
@@jackweirdogamer1029probably better said that most people who play this game don’t remember. Plenty of people who grew up in the 80s are still alive 😂
Since you mentioned Dormitabis a little bit into the video and stated you didn’t want to play it due to its pedophilic content, I’d like to point out that there’s now a remastered version of Dormitabis (called - surprise surprise - Dormitabis Remastered) that completely rewrites the story to remove all pedophilic content. It also fixes up and adds to the game proper in countless ways to make the worst FNAF fangame into arguably one of the best.
@@GavinGone No problem!^^ I watched David Baron play it with Pastra in a vod and just from watching it, it’s INFINITELY better of an experience - I could tell just from how much he was enjoying it.
@@Black072YT72 yeah tho, the coincidence is so accurate that it would've been considered sometime tho we all can agree that scott would definitively dislike these types of fangames
@@Black072YT72doesn’t matter. Look at Winnie the Pooh blood and honey, and the new Disney style shooting game based off of steamboat Willy. Artistic license, whether people like it or not. Keeps things interesting.
It's weird that there's two Fnaf fan games with real murders. Tho somehow this game dodge the bullet of controversy unlike the Five Nights at the Haunted House app
Is John (our protagonist) phone guy? Does he commit the massacre? Did the first massacre even happen? If so, why aren't there any other mentions or details about it? Are the animatronics even possessed or haunted?
@@thegoldensuperior1863 The number of massacres is never explained. Though the one massacre mentioned on night one seems to have had six victims and there's six animatronics. But then the phone guy went and did the massacre on night 4, so...
@@walnzell9328it’s thought that the calls on the other nights were prerecorded, and that the first call is post-shooting, and the others are pre-shooting
@@speedymetal Despite the same voices, the caller from night 1 could've been someone else as he mentioned the other caller getting fired because the latter is the shooter
@@speedymetalso bro was like “imma shoot tf up this mcdonalods but before I do I’mma js leave a training tape for the next security guy cus I am deffffinitely gon kms after this.”
I watched the documentary 77 Minutes and it's one of the most graphic documentaries I've ever seen. If you do watch it, I will warn you that it does show videos/pictures of the crime scene and you do see dead bodies. Its vile that someone would use a crime that people died, especially children for a FNAF fangame
@GavinGoniwicha I had to look away at that part because it was so hard seeing dead bodies of children. I watched it last year and it's still fresh in my mind
This shooting happened when I was a little little kid, and it made me afraid to go to McDonald's for a while. Not sure how I feel about it being used as a subject for a game - I kinda agree with comments that compare it to a creepypasta trying to be edgy. But I don't think it was done out of maliciousness, just out of immaturity. It's callous & distasteful, especially considering the death toll & how many were young children, but I don't think it was done out of spite to victims/survivors.
basing a fangame on REAL CASES is so insensitive (reminds me of that one bootleg mobile FNAF game that used A REAL MISSING WOMAN) this is why Five Nights with Mac Tonight is the goat when it comes to McDonald's themed fangames
This game doesn't make ANY sense Why are the animatronics alive pre-massacre? Why are they trying to kill us? Why does the phone guys voice sound so stale? Why did the dev decide to make a game based off a massacre?
Honestly, i think why the animatronics try to kill us is because maybe they are possesed by the victims of the Massarce by the manager and are confusing the night guard with the manager.
Years ago i watched the police footage of the aftermat. My heart broke at the sight of the inoccent people no longer living. I really feel sorry for the victims as i cannot imagine something like this happening to my when i was a child going to a burger king.
If the game happens before the massacre, how can the animatronics move at night and kill you? Are they programmed by the Phone Guy, or possessed by his victims?
I hate fnaf fan games that use real people’s death for there dumb robot story. Like that haunted mansion game that used Real pictures of missing people that were Killed. Or that fnaf vhs tape that used real missing kids
@@GavinGone The game was Five Nights at the Haunted House, a dodgy FNAF knock-off on the Google Play store. At the beginning of the game, two pictures of newspaper articles about missing people were shown. The people in question were 14 year old Suzanne Bombardier who was kidnapped and stabbed to death in 1980 and 24 year old Tammy Niver who went missing in 1993 and was murdered. It has now been delisted from the Google Play store, which I think is definitely for the best Not sure what the VHS tape was tho.
I remember researching this tragedy a while ago. What makes the real incident extra tragic and disturbing is that the perp called a mental health clinic for help shortly before the incident, as touched on later in the video. While he made his choice, it can make one wonder if a returned phone call and better mental health services in general could have pevented the tragedy.
That isn't necessarily the problem. it's how the real world tragedy was handled. you can't implement shit like this as if it were a creepypasta without consequence. Same issue with dormitabis. only reason the pedophilia aspect was implemented was to shock people. it has absolutely no good purpose for being in the story.
Bro............. The real life tragedy was handled very well in that game. It wasn't added to shock people because it's not very straight forward. That game doesn't show any shooting so this mean that it's not added there to shock people. Also this game may not be based on a real shooting. It may include stuff like shooting but this doesn't necessarily mean that it is based on a real life tragedy. Also why did you mention dormitabis? Dormitabis has nothing to do with any real life tragedy whatsoever. Anyway...... HAWK TUAH!!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️
Jesus Christ, I somehow never realized the game was directly based on a mass shooting! It’s really disgusting that the developer would use a real life tragedy as the basis for a FNaF fangame of all things. I hope the developer realized how horrible this is.
it's a shame people do this to their games, honestly, you can make a really solid fucking game, if your story has shit like this, it instantly drives people away, that's why i don't fuck with Dormitabis or five nights at chuck & cheese (idk if fnacec has anything related to the shooting theory, but it really drives me away that it was made in a time where this theory was still decently popular)
7:00 Dormitabus has always been a great game to me, I never knew about the developer until a few months ago by now though. I still love it though, cause of how exaggerated the game really gets, and the idea of it taking place in a purgatory after death. I have to separate the art from the artist, I can hate the artist, but love the art
@ and that’s perfectly fine, that’s horror. What’s not fine is the fact it’s based on what the creator apparently likes. Hence separating the art from the artist
@@accelgenesis1667 you say that as if horror games, hell, even just rated R games in general don’t have worse shit. Assassins creed alone has every type of death possible, suicide, child murder, etc. And guess what? People love those games. These are used in games all the time. How is Dormitibus any different?
The thing is - with the first call, when he explains what happened - It was too blaintent - just "hey, you know this palce you are working. Well this one guy got peeved and sh0t everyone". I think if the creator needed to include a real world event, they should do it softly and over time- Maybe allude to something happening - like "the last Security Guard... he- well... there is a reason why we are now hiring again... you know why" - of course, the player does not - and so entices them to play further. Eventually through lore and these calls, revealing what the previous emplyee did. Either that or not base it on a real world event in the first place -
While I think that Phone guy quoting James Huberty and the name similairties are damning evidences that this game might indeed be inspired from this specific incident, I think it's important to concider that workplaces are actually pretty common places for shootings to occur. According to the research conducted by The Violence Project, the most common places for someone who just got laid off to start a mass shooting is their former workplace and is more common for retail locations like restaurants and bars. Edit: Sorry for the Yapfest
also made me think of the chuck e cheese murders that people thought fnaf was based on in the beginning Five people were involved in a shooting at a Chuck E. Cheese's restaurant in Aurora, Colorado on December 14, 1993: Four employees: Were shot and killed One employee: Was seriously injured Nathan Dunlap: The 19-year-old perpetrator, a former employee of the restaurant, was frustrated about being fired five months prior to the shooting
I'm so tired of people using real life tragedies just to add edge to their fangame or anolog horrors 😭 Actual human people died! If you're gonna put real life tragedies in your works, at least do it respectfully and with the nuance it deserves! Using this shit as edge bait is disrespectful. 😭😭😭
I feel like a Remake with a reimagining of the game would have made it better Yea this game was based off a gun massacre and I guess it was very disrespectful but a remake to this Fnaf game would be better if a remake to Five nights at Ronald’s were to separate the games backstory from the actual massacre itself so it doesn’t feel Connected, then it would be better than the original game itself
Profit? Excuse me, but this is a FNaF fan game, you can't make money of it unless Scott says so and you have original characters And it's not for views or attention either, the game does not revolve around the San Ysidro massacre, and does not even try to fully detail it. The game is simply based on the idea of a McDonald's shooting, and the afformentioned one was the most 'popular', the only direct references being the name "Huberty", and the line "Society had it's chance". Or could you perhaps be talking about Gavin? I haven't noticed of the video is yet monetized (ads).
Why does the phone guy sound so casual mentioning the sh••tings and the fact that the robots are just alive for some reason. Anyways, his name better be Arthur.
I may play the devil's advocate here, but i'm not even surprised the fact that this game was made based of a real life murder 2015 was a time where the internet could do all sorts of stuff freely without any problems, and the developer probably was a edgy kid/teen making this game, kids always does dumb shit, hopefully they realized their mistake when they grown up, otherwise, it's interesting to know a video about this game recently
While the game is pretty similar to the shooting, I think we all know that the youtuber just made this video with the intention of getting as much views and money as possible since true cases or crimes are pretty trending here in youtube
Okay so for the audio that was from a broadcast it's actually from 2 different events one was from the colmbine shooting and the other I can't figure out the reason I remember the colmbine one was because my teacher showed us a documentary and had that specific news broadcast
I once had an idea to retake five nights at Chuck e Cheese and base the story off of that one shooting that happened there BUT I decided not to do that since that's just plain wrong
I always found Five Nights at Ronald’s cringe and weird because of the goofy ah jumpscares, I always preferred FNwMT (five nights at Mac tonight) but I never knew this was based on a real story
I remember watching his playthrough as well, in fact, he was the first youtuber I watched play this game, then a few days to a week later, I watched Poiised play this game (I was 10 years old when I so happened to watch these videos, which was 8 years ago).
Honestly, as a wise game dev once said "Making a game based on real life murders is just really distasteful and just sad and messed up" and I totally agree with Scott Cawthon
@BigTime-SkoomaDrinker idk, maybe it would be okay
Yeah like, Scott Cawthon might be a horribly misguided individual when it comes to politics, but he at least has the moral courtesy to not base his franchise on REAL murders. God damn...
@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 Why did you see the need to bring in his politic views lmao
Such a backhanded compliment
Well fuck Jack Ketchum then, am I right?
Isn’t FNAF partially based on the 1993 Aurora massacre?
The villain suddenly going from "I hope my son is okay 😢" to "Y'KNOW WHAT KILL ALL OF SOCIETY 🤬🤬🤬" over the span of one night instead of how the irl shooter declined slowly into insanity is such a "14 year old writing a creepypasta" thing that it makes the entire game come off as a joke
Which also makes it feel a bit more disrespectful and insensitive to the real murders, which is kinda shit
sorry if the intention was to laugh, just thought people would look into it
My thoughts exactly... very distasteful
@@danius_huganius Nah I agree. It wouldn't be such a big problem if it wasn't so heavily inspired by the shooting
The Joker said that it takes „one bad day” though
@BigTime-SkoomaDrinker we dont know what was happening in the villains life he could've just reached his breaking point
I had never heard of the San Ysidro Massacre until today. It predates Columbine and yet it's apparently never brought up. For the common masses, the timeline for the plague for this kind of violence starts in 1999. And that's really sad. It took the same thing happening in a school to make a lasting impact on the public.
It's weird to think it happened 40 years back...But I first heard of it through Watchmojo's 2011 video of the deadliest mass shootings in the US and in the world. To this very day, The Las Vegas shooting is considered the worst in the world, having it be tied with the Norway bombing and camp shooting nearly 6 years prior to the Las Vegas massacre.
To be honest, what peaked my interest into school shootings was a 2007 shooting that occurred somewhere in europe, and the weird thing is that I might have seen that person's youtube channel back in 2007 long before they were taken down, including the one where the shooter in 2007 had the photos of the school he toke but colored it over with the video software in red. But it wouldn't be until Rachael's Challenge, as well as the 2011 tsunami and earthquake incident in Japan, and watchmojo's video, that made me look into these shootings in the first place.
To be honest, it's unfortunate how these tend to happen, especially at the school facilities. But I do think in my opinion, if you wish to stop shooters altogether, you might as well kill the shooters back before the individual has the chance to kill you in real life.
Multiple of my dads best friends were in that mcdonalds and killed that day, it’s weird to see that a game was made about it…
No the Hungerford massacre happened around the 70s or 80s and Dunblane and port Arthur happened weeks apart and the macas massacre happened and all of those predate 1999
@@Pinkmen-ho3fz Well that's just sad.
This game scared the hell out of me when I was younger especially the violent jumpscares 😭😭
same😭
Me too, but now the jumpscares are kinda silly, like Wario’s
That's gross, Also i recall one shitty fnaf mobile game that used REAL MISSING PEOPLE
Omg was it that fnaf moble game that had ghost in some mansion- 💀
@@zithandraharo7432 What was this Fnaf fan game called
@@zithandraharo7432 FnaHH (Haunted House is such a trash name)
Andiematronic covered that in a video
andiematronic covered it like another comment said but I find it really shitty they didnt remove it after the video
I still find it interesting how this game was one of the early fnaf fangames that was made on Unity instead of the usual Clickteam Engine.
The thing is, basing horror off of real world tragedies or crimes isnt always a bad thing
For example, Ad Infinitum is based on World War 1 and the horrors of war as well as the lingering trauma felt by those involved but its executed extremely well
The original texas chainsaw massacre is an absolute classic of horror media and it was partially inspired by the real case of Ed Gein
Don't even get me started about how many times Jack the Ripper has been used in all kinds of media for inspiration
The issue here is just how poorly its handled and how ham fisted it comes across, especially with how it handles the shooter himself and lack of tact in handling the events of the crime
Theres not enough of a barrier between the real crime and the game story as well (like how Texas Chainsaw took some light inspiration from Ed Gein but made no direct ties to him aside from the graphic nature of his crime)
It just comes off as extremely disrespectful and like zero consideration was taken for the victims whatsoever
THANK YOU!! I Was looking for a coment that says that since most are saying how these never work! It CAN end up working well but the creator of this game took everything about it and turned it into a badly written creepypasta that a 14 year old would write! While the shooter from the irl event slowly declined into insanity, the phone guy here is like "oh, my son's in the hospital i hope he's okay" and like 2-3 night later he's like "GRRRR SOCIETY HAD IT'S CHANGE (OMG HE SAID THE LINEEE) I'M KILLING EVERYONE NOW' which is disrespectful af to everyone involved: the family, the victims and the ones who actually died in this event.
I wish all the victims the best and that this game goes to hell for how disrespectful it is to them.
Honestly the jumpscares and the phone call were the only reasons I even never forget this game. Everything else is just sorta typical standard fnaf stuff
I only remember this game because of the jumpscares and blasphemoushd
I have a theory: the phone calls are prerecorded, & Night 1's phone call takes place after the shooting, while 2, 3, & 4 all take place before the shooting.
Edit: I've got something to add onto that theory: the people who were killed in the shooting now possess the animatronics (there's 6 animatronics & 6 victims of the shooting). With this in mind, not only do most of the phone calls take place before the shooting, but also all of the phone calls in general take place before Night 1. So they're all prerecorded, so they're basically voice messages. I dunno what the phone guy was thinking with these voice messages, but he must be deranged as fuck!
Great theory!
when you put it that way it makes alot of sense now
True because four sounds more like the previous guy because one talked about the shooting if you did hear closely about being fired, angry, and saying a threat.
the night 1 call is probably also by a different person
@ obviously
hearing that this horrific tragedy happened in san diego really hit me in a way. not from there, but from the neighboring state of arizona where san diego is a common vacation spot. grew up going there almost every summer, only having not been there 2 summers of my 2 decades of life. im really fond of the place, being an ocean lover growing up and a marine bio major now san diego has just always had a special place in my heart. rest in peace to everyone who died in that, i hope their families have found at least some peace since then.
It also worth noticing that there was some person along with team were planning to make full on Remastered version of Five nights at ronald by FreshDecimate. However it ended getting cancelled due to its internal instability as its been sitting in limbo and thus end the project.
Its probably for the best tbh
@@GavinGone tho it sucks that the remastered was cancelled as it has so much potential as the remastered looks so good and its possible that they were planning on expanded and changing the story complely.
@BigTime-SkoomaDrinker I suppose but at the same time considering the descriptions of the page hinted that the shooting element would've returned, I would personally think that little would be changed
@TheProdigalKnight just like with the dormintus remastered/remake did as well.
The game is memorable for the jumpscares, the gameplay, the visuals, AND for being based on the real life event
It’s Ahead Of It’s Time For Me.
Pretty sure no one really knows about the real life event so its not really that memorable.
@@jackweirdogamer1029probably better said that most people who play this game don’t remember. Plenty of people who grew up in the 80s are still alive 😂
Since you mentioned Dormitabis a little bit into the video and stated you didn’t want to play it due to its pedophilic content, I’d like to point out that there’s now a remastered version of Dormitabis (called - surprise surprise - Dormitabis Remastered) that completely rewrites the story to remove all pedophilic content. It also fixes up and adds to the game proper in countless ways to make the worst FNAF fangame into arguably one of the best.
Might need to try this, thank you for telling me this as I didn't know this existed somehow.
@@GavinGone No problem!^^ I watched David Baron play it with Pastra in a vod and just from watching it, it’s INFINITELY better of an experience - I could tell just from how much he was enjoying it.
I myself played the remake and it's better than the edgy 2017 version
fangames that does those type of things are quite the disrespect to scott's view of fnaf as a whole
Matt patts fault for saying fnaf is based on a chuck e cheese shooting which probably the main reason this fan game was made
@@Black072YT72 yeah tho, the coincidence is so accurate that it would've been considered sometime
tho we all can agree that scott would definitively dislike these types of fangames
@@danius_huganius true scott wouldn't condone this
@@Black072YT72doesn’t matter. Look at Winnie the Pooh blood and honey, and the new Disney style shooting game based off of steamboat Willy. Artistic license, whether people like it or not. Keeps things interesting.
@BigTime-SkoomaDrinker scott involed kids getting offed in his games bro
11:58 bro is the joker😭
Nah, he's the Jerkler
Why is he the jonkler? is he stupid?
@BigTime-SkoomaDrinker Man, Ham or gin?
That aint the joker thats the jankler☠️
@ no i mean jankler
I remember back when I watched The Game Salmon play it back when I watched his content. Wild that it was based off of a real massacre.
same
It's weird that there's two Fnaf fan games with real murders. Tho somehow this game dodge the bullet of controversy unlike the Five Nights at the Haunted House app
the difference is that this game doesn’t use the real faces and names of the deceased.
@@tjones9097 That's true
The phone guy starts off by saying a massacre happened, then says he's been fired, then the massacre happens.
So the story isn't even good.
Is John (our protagonist) phone guy? Does he commit the massacre? Did the first massacre even happen? If so, why aren't there any other mentions or details about it? Are the animatronics even possessed or haunted?
@@thegoldensuperior1863 The number of massacres is never explained. Though the one massacre mentioned on night one seems to have had six victims and there's six animatronics. But then the phone guy went and did the massacre on night 4, so...
@@walnzell9328it’s thought that the calls on the other nights were prerecorded, and that the first call is post-shooting, and the others are pre-shooting
@@speedymetal Despite the same voices, the caller from night 1 could've been someone else as he mentioned the other caller getting fired because the latter is the shooter
@@speedymetalso bro was like “imma shoot tf up this mcdonalods but before I do I’mma js leave a training tape for the next security guy cus I am deffffinitely gon kms after this.”
It feels like the guy who made this game watched game theories video on how FNAF is based on a real murder that happened in Chuck E. Cheese.
I watched the documentary 77 Minutes and it's one of the most graphic documentaries I've ever seen. If you do watch it, I will warn you that it does show videos/pictures of the crime scene and you do see dead bodies. Its vile that someone would use a crime that people died, especially children for a FNAF fangame
Yep, watched it to research this video. Extremely saddening.
@GavinGoniwicha I had to look away at that part because it was so hard seeing dead bodies of children. I watched it last year and it's still fresh in my mind
This shooting happened when I was a little little kid, and it made me afraid to go to McDonald's for a while. Not sure how I feel about it being used as a subject for a game - I kinda agree with comments that compare it to a creepypasta trying to be edgy. But I don't think it was done out of maliciousness, just out of immaturity. It's callous & distasteful, especially considering the death toll & how many were young children, but I don't think it was done out of spite to victims/survivors.
This fangame is probably awareness, though I'm not sure, all I know, is,
WHAT THE HELL WAS THIS GUY DOING
This was made a long time ago where people thought it was cool and edgy
basing a fangame on REAL CASES is so insensitive (reminds me of that one bootleg mobile FNAF game that used A REAL MISSING WOMAN)
this is why Five Nights with Mac Tonight is the goat when it comes to McDonald's themed fangames
ykl there was also a fnaf bootleg about a REAL dead woman who died in a fire it was disgusting..
@epic12lol yes that was the game i was referring to
i misremembered lolmao
@@epic12lol What was it called? Im like, genuinely interested now, this seems very concerning.
I think it’s very disrespectful too. Didn’t want to say because I think I’ll be shut up for thinking so.
@@buzzcutinteractiveLook up "five nights at haunted house"
This game doesn't make ANY sense
Why are the animatronics alive pre-massacre?
Why are they trying to kill us?
Why does the phone guys voice sound so stale?
Why did the dev decide to make a game based off a massacre?
Honestly, i think why the animatronics try to kill us is because maybe they are possesed by the victims of the Massarce by the manager and are confusing the night guard with the manager.
ik the reason to the last one: FOR MONEYYYYYY (if the game's paid that is, i don't wanna bother checking whether it is or not)
@@eca2009 The game is for free on GameJolt
Years ago i watched the police footage of the aftermat. My heart broke at the sight of the inoccent people no longer living. I really feel sorry for the victims as i cannot imagine something like this happening to my when i was a child going to a burger king.
0:21 is it just me or does this guy look like Donald Trump?
I think so
naww he ain't orange enough
@@Zoé_zoisiteee bruh that actually make me laugh 😂😂😂
Yes, But Without his orange spray tan
I hate that you said that because I immediately thought that when seeing him
I didn't know it was based on an actual crime
same and its so dark but for the wrong reasons
I remember watching a Rob Gavigan video on the McDonald sh**ting when I was a kid. Probably one of the most traumatic things I’ve ever watched.
I literally got a nightmare about this exact game, because of how the game visuals look and at the time I just thought it was an ordinary fangame
I don't think it's just Distasteful.
It makes it sound like the Dev was Celebrating that kind of Psychopathy.
Like the Dev is Idolizing the Massacre
Can't hear it tbh
If the game happens before the massacre, how can the animatronics move at night and kill you? Are they programmed by the Phone Guy, or possessed by his victims?
I was confused too, would there really be two shootings at the same place or so? I don't know, doesn't click with me
My theory this happened after the massacre or It could have been a time loop
I can't believe this is how I find out one of the most infamous shootings in history happened on my birthday
I hate fnaf fan games that use real people’s death for there dumb robot story. Like that haunted mansion game that used Real pictures of missing people that were Killed. Or that fnaf vhs tape that used real missing kids
Yep, I hate it so much. What was the game and VHS tape?
Games can do based on a true story
@@GavinGone The game was Five Nights at the Haunted House, a dodgy FNAF knock-off on the Google Play store. At the beginning of the game, two pictures of newspaper articles about missing people were shown. The people in question were 14 year old Suzanne Bombardier who was kidnapped and stabbed to death in 1980 and 24 year old Tammy Niver who went missing in 1993 and was murdered. It has now been delisted from the Google Play store, which I think is definitely for the best
Not sure what the VHS tape was tho.
I remember researching this tragedy a while ago. What makes the real incident extra tragic and disturbing is that the perp called a mental health clinic for help shortly before the incident, as touched on later in the video. While he made his choice, it can make one wonder if a returned phone call and better mental health services in general could have pevented the tragedy.
Remember seeing dev updates on this game wen it was being made, seeing it crop up again now and hearing what it turned into is is
It's somthin alright
Bruh. I don’t care if society hurt you, you do not take it out on innocents.
thank you. innocent people don't deserve to be punished for something that they aren't even directly involved in.
if theas are based on real deaths, i'm surprised it hasn't been on a top 10 more controversial fnaf fan games thing
I don't think that making a game based on real life tragedies is a bad thing. I thing it is quite creative
That isn't necessarily the problem. it's how the real world tragedy was handled. you can't implement shit like this as if it were a creepypasta without consequence.
Same issue with dormitabis. only reason the pedophilia aspect was implemented was to shock people. it has absolutely no good purpose for being in the story.
Bro............. The real life tragedy was handled very well in that game. It wasn't added to shock people because it's not very straight forward. That game doesn't show any shooting so this mean that it's not added there to shock people. Also this game may not be based on a real shooting. It may include stuff like shooting but this doesn't necessarily mean that it is based on a real life tragedy. Also why did you mention dormitabis? Dormitabis has nothing to do with any real life tragedy whatsoever. Anyway...... HAWK TUAH!!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️
Jesus Christ, I somehow never realized the game was directly based on a mass shooting! It’s really disgusting that the developer would use a real life tragedy as the basis for a FNaF fangame of all things. I hope the developer realized how horrible this is.
I swear I thought Gavin was showing clips of the creator until he said originality in quotes, and that’s when I realized he was showing his face
I never knew this was based on a real event, interesting video
That escalated quickly 7:52
I remember this game foundy but i didn’t know the back story
i think this game would've been a classic if the murder wasn't based on a real one. the visuals are pretty poor but their still creepy in that way
i love your choice of bg music for this video!!
Man. I really liked this one. The graphics, the vibe, the jump scares, the atmosphere. I enjoyed it a lot
Making a horror game based off true crime is just gross.
The phone guy text feels so unnatural like its been written by ai
Yet, 9 Years Ago...
More like a 13 year old teenager tryna be cool and edgy, which checks out for its time
Wasn't MatPat's first game theory on FNAF around this?
No he made tyat theory based on Nathan’s Dunlap murder
Close, it was based off of a Chuck E Cheese shooting instead of a McDonalds one.
it's a shame people do this to their games, honestly, you can make a really solid fucking game, if your story has shit like this, it instantly drives people away, that's why i don't fuck with Dormitabis or five nights at chuck & cheese (idk if fnacec has anything related to the shooting theory, but it really drives me away that it was made in a time where this theory was still decently popular)
why did you use Carol of the bells as the music
Thinking the same thing🤨
I mean… FNaC (Five Nights at Candy’s) was a pretty good story… just not as true and violent as _this_
7:00
Dormitabus has always been a great game to me, I never knew about the developer until a few months ago by now though. I still love it though, cause of how exaggerated the game really gets, and the idea of it taking place in a purgatory after death. I have to separate the art from the artist, I can hate the artist, but love the art
My brother in christ one of the scenes in the theatre minigame literally depict Garvey dragging a teen into the backroom to rape her.
@ and that’s perfectly fine, that’s horror. What’s not fine is the fact it’s based on what the creator apparently likes. Hence separating the art from the artist
@@isaiah5833 If you think that's perfectly fine then someone needs to check your hard drives.
@@accelgenesis1667 you say that as if horror games, hell, even just rated R games in general don’t have worse shit. Assassins creed alone has every type of death possible, suicide, child murder, etc.
And guess what? People love those games. These are used in games all the time. How is Dormitibus any different?
The thing is - with the first call, when he explains what happened -
It was too blaintent - just "hey, you know this palce you are working. Well this one guy got peeved and sh0t everyone".
I think if the creator needed to include a real world event, they should do it softly and over time-
Maybe allude to something happening - like "the last Security Guard... he- well... there is a reason why we are now hiring again... you know why" - of course, the player does not - and so entices them to play further. Eventually through lore and these calls, revealing what the previous emplyee did.
Either that or not base it on a real world event in the first place -
The voice acting could NOT save this game. I loved it when I was younger, not knowing what the undertones were!
this game was actually scary back then, even if its based on a real thing, it just made things scarier 😭😭
It’s crazy how it’s based off of a real masccure
Masscure
Musketeers
Y'all it's massacre 😭😭😭
@liongamerroars*masakker
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im less shocked that theres a fnaf fan game based on a real life murder, but more that theres only one
I did not knew this at all many years ago I honestly thought this was a fnaf fan game many until this moment
2:35 I also didn’t knew that negative mc cheese existed also because of this video I see this game in a very different way
Ronald is the base of all my childhood trauma
While I think that Phone guy quoting James Huberty and the name similairties are damning evidences that this game might indeed be inspired from this specific incident, I think it's important to concider that workplaces are actually pretty common places for shootings to occur. According to the research conducted by The Violence Project, the most common places for someone who just got laid off to start a mass shooting is their former workplace and is more common for retail locations like restaurants and bars.
Edit: Sorry for the Yapfest
also made me think of the chuck e cheese murders that people thought fnaf was based on in the beginning
Five people were involved in a shooting at a Chuck E. Cheese's restaurant in Aurora, Colorado on December 14, 1993:
Four employees: Were shot and killed
One employee: Was seriously injured
Nathan Dunlap: The 19-year-old perpetrator, a former employee of the restaurant, was frustrated about being fired five months prior to the shooting
A rather ”Strange” fact about this game: In both the ending and randomly in the nights, River Twygdz Bed from Super Paper Mario can be heard.
oh that fnaf fan game, i always saw it in some jumpscars compilation video whatever it was back in like 2017 or something like that
Making a game based off of such a brutal event; that’s just horrible
When i saw gavin gone I immediately thought of gavin's friend from rdr2 who keeps looking for gavin
i got ptsd from a video i found from this sad massacre. i want to forget the video of the dead people.
I'm so tired of people using real life tragedies just to add edge to their fangame or anolog horrors 😭 Actual human people died! If you're gonna put real life tragedies in your works, at least do it respectfully and with the nuance it deserves! Using this shit as edge bait is disrespectful. 😭😭😭
jeez, thats a tad bit messed up to use a real life event in order for an old fnaf game to have a good story, but its a good plot i suppose.
When he censored shooting, I thought it was something else💀
I envy his hair....
I feel like a Remake with a reimagining of the game would have made it better
Yea this game was based off a gun massacre and I guess it was very disrespectful but a remake to this Fnaf game would be better if a remake to Five nights at Ronald’s were to separate the games backstory from the actual massacre itself so it doesn’t feel Connected, then it would be better than the original game itself
I remember a Spanish UA-camr who had the balls to theorize that FNWMT's lore was set after FNAR
"Society had its chance" goes hard
Seen Mcdonalds and thought this was about the homicide at my local McDonald's that got tore down
the phone guy thinks hes luigi mangione
I'm watching this at 6:00AM so I'm safe
I thought this was about Five Nights With Mac Tonight.
That game definitely better than five nights at Ronald's
*Real people die*
Someone: How can I profit!? 🤑🫰
Profit? Excuse me, but this is a FNaF fan game, you can't make money of it unless Scott says so and you have original characters
And it's not for views or attention either, the game does not revolve around the San Ysidro massacre, and does not even try to fully detail it. The game is simply based on the idea of a McDonald's shooting, and the afformentioned one was the most 'popular', the only direct references being the name "Huberty", and the line "Society had it's chance".
Or could you perhaps be talking about Gavin? I haven't noticed of the video is yet monetized (ads).
Yeah, maybe I get what you mean now, my bad, perhaps
correction: how can i get attention from this
btw thats the same voice as the reporter of the incident so um yes. it is related 100%...
Wait, I’m early? I thought this was an older video. That’s funny.
I've heard of this game before, and I knew it was the San Ysidro McDonald's Massacre of July 18th, 1984?
Five Nights at Ronald's Walked So Five Nights With Mac Tonight Should Run
I never even noticed that the phone call was this in the game
Did the creator admitted that he did made the fnaf fan game was made based on the real mascara?
Got here after released for 4 min oh and the thing this is based off is insanely disturbing💀😭
This is way employer's need to be careful when firing.
Why does the phone guy sound so casual mentioning the sh••tings and the fact that the robots are just alive for some reason. Anyways, his name better be Arthur.
I saw the bodies…”8 year old, mexican male”
The man says as he held up a white sheet with a small child lying dead with a pool of blood around him.
I may play the devil's advocate here, but i'm not even surprised the fact that this game was made based of a real life murder
2015 was a time where the internet could do all sorts of stuff freely without any problems, and the developer probably was a edgy kid/teen making this game, kids always does dumb shit, hopefully they realized their mistake when they grown up, otherwise, it's interesting to know a video about this game recently
While the game is pretty similar to the shooting, I think we all know that the youtuber just made this video with the intention of getting as much views and money as possible since true cases or crimes are pretty trending here in youtube
where's the hamburger tho?
Okay so for the audio that was from a broadcast it's actually from 2 different events one was from the colmbine shooting and the other I can't figure out the reason I remember the colmbine one was because my teacher showed us a documentary and had that specific news broadcast
I watched the documentary for it and oh boy I was not ready for it.......
I once had an idea to retake five nights at Chuck e Cheese and base the story off of that one shooting that happened there BUT I decided not to do that since that's just plain wrong
Bummer
I vaguely remember this game, especially since I was five when I came out so I don’t remember that much about it, but it is giving me nostalgia😊❤
I always found Five Nights at Ronald’s cringe and weird because of the goofy ah jumpscares, I always preferred FNwMT (five nights at Mac tonight) but I never knew this was based on a real story
Using real life tragedies can be used, if you know how to use it in a non-distasteful manner.
I most definitely remember this game, I watched Yamimash playthrough. The Jumpscare is unforgettable
I remember watching his playthrough as well, in fact, he was the first youtuber I watched play this game, then a few days to a week later, I watched Poiised play this game (I was 10 years old when I so happened to watch these videos, which was 8 years ago).
I thought I was on tv because I made a five nights at ronalds v i d e o
not July 18th...