The villain suddenly going from "I hope my son is okay 😢" to "Y'KNOW WHAT KILL ALL OF SOCIETY 🤬🤬🤬" over the span of one night instead of how the irl shooter declined slowly into insanity is such a "14 year old writing a creepypasta" thing that it makes the entire game come off as a joke
Which also makes it feel a bit more disrespectful and insensitive to the real murders, which is kinda shit sorry if the intention was to laugh, just thought people would look into it
Honestly, as a wise game dev once said "Making a game based on real life murders is just really distasteful and just sad and messed up" and I totally agree with Scott Cawthon
Yeah like, Scott Cawthon might be a horribly misguided individual when it comes to politics, but he at least has the moral courtesy to not base his franchise on REAL murders. God damn...
I had never heard of the San Ysidro Massacre until today. It predates Columbine and yet it's apparently never brought up. For the common masses, the timeline for the plague for this kind of violence starts in 1999. And that's really sad. It took the same thing happening in a school to make a lasting impact on the public.
It's weird to think it happened 40 years back...But I first heard of it through Watchmojo's 2011 video of the deadliest mass shootings in the US and in the world. To this very day, The Las Vegas shooting is considered the worst in the world, having it be tied with the Norway bombing and camp shooting nearly 6 years prior to the Las Vegas massacre. To be honest, what peaked my interest into school shootings was a 2007 shooting that occurred somewhere in europe, and the weird thing is that I might have seen that person's youtube channel back in 2007 long before they were taken down, including the one where the shooter in 2007 had the photos of the school he toke but colored it over with the video software in red. But it wouldn't be until Rachael's Challenge, as well as the 2011 tsunami and earthquake incident in Japan, and watchmojo's video, that made me look into these shootings in the first place. To be honest, it's unfortunate how these tend to happen, especially at the school facilities. But I do think in my opinion, if you wish to stop shooters altogether, you might as well kill the shooters back before the individual has the chance to kill you in real life.
The thing is, basing horror off of real world tragedies or crimes isnt always a bad thing For example, Ad Infinitum is based on World War 1 and the horrors of war as well as the lingering trauma felt by those involved but its executed extremely well The original texas chainsaw massacre is an absolute classic of horror media and it was partially inspired by the real case of Ed Gein Don't even get me started about how many times Jack the Ripper has been used in all kinds of media for inspiration The issue here is just how poorly its handled and how ham fisted it comes across, especially with how it handles the shooter himself and lack of tact in handling the events of the crime Theres not enough of a barrier between the real crime and the game story as well (like how Texas Chainsaw took some light inspiration from Ed Gein but made no direct ties to him aside from the graphic nature of his crime) It just comes off as extremely disrespectful and like zero consideration was taken for the victims whatsoever
Honestly the jumpscares and the phone call were the only reasons I even never forget this game. Everything else is just sorta typical standard fnaf stuff
I have a theory: the phone calls are prerecorded, & Night 1's phone call takes place after the shooting, while 2, 3, & 4 all take place before the shooting. Edit: I've got something to add onto that theory: the people who were killed in the shooting now possess the animatronics (there's 6 animatronics & 6 victims of the shooting). With this in mind, not only do most of the phone calls take place before the shooting, but also all of the phone calls in general take place before Night 1. So they're all prerecorded, so they're basically voice messages. I dunno what the phone guy was thinking with these voice messages, but he must be deranged as fuck!
True because four sounds more like the previous guy because one talked about the shooting if you did hear closely about being fired, angry, and saying a threat.
It also worth noticing that there was some person along with team were planning to make full on Remastered version of Five nights at ronald by FreshDecimate. However it ended getting cancelled due to its internal instability as its been sitting in limbo and thus end the project.
@@GavinGoniwicha tho it sucks that the remastered was cancelled as it has so much potential as the remastered looks so good and its possible that they were planning on expanded and changing the story complely.
@@GavinGoniwicha hmmm... truth to be told, I wouldn't be that quick to crucify something like a remake/remaster, especially if it takes out the more "offensive" content.
@@TheProdigalKnight I suppose but at the same time considering the descriptions of the page hinted that the shooting element would've returned, I would personally think that little would be changed
@@jackweirdogamer1029probably better said that most people who play this game don’t remember. Plenty of people who grew up in the 80s are still alive 😂
@@Black072YT72 yeah tho, the coincidence is so accurate that it would've been considered sometime tho we all can agree that scott would definitively dislike these types of fangames
@@Black072YT72doesn’t matter. Look at Winnie the Pooh blood and honey, and the new Disney style shooting game based off of steamboat Willy. Artistic license, whether people like it or not. Keeps things interesting.
@@Black072YT72 truth to be told, Scott Cawthon doesn't really condone most horror games in general. I mean, have you seen the direction the current FNAF series has taken?
hearing that this horrific tragedy happened in san diego really hit me in a way. not from there, but from the neighboring state of arizona where san diego is a common vacation spot. grew up going there almost every summer, only having not been there 2 summers of my 2 decades of life. im really fond of the place, being an ocean lover growing up and a marine bio major now san diego has just always had a special place in my heart. rest in peace to everyone who died in that, i hope their families have found at least some peace since then.
Is John (our protagonist) phone guy? Does he commit the massacre? Did the first massacre even happen? If so, why aren't there any other mentions or details about it? Are the animatronics even possessed or haunted?
@@thegoldensuperior1863 The number of massacres is never explained. Though the one massacre mentioned on night one seems to have had six victims and there's six animatronics. But then the phone guy went and did the massacre on night 4, so...
@@walnzell9328it’s thought that the calls on the other nights were prerecorded, and that the first call is post-shooting, and the others are pre-shooting
@@speedymetal Despite the same voices, the caller from night 1 could've been someone else as he mentioned the other caller getting fired because the latter is the shooter
@@speedymetalso bro was like “imma shoot tf up this mcdonalods but before I do I’mma js leave a training tape for the next security guy cus I am deffffinitely gon kms after this.”
basing a fangame on REAL CASES is so insensitive (reminds me of that one bootleg mobile FNAF game that used A REAL MISSING WOMAN) this is why Five Nights with Mac Tonight is the goat when it comes to McDonald's themed fangames
Since you mentioned Dormitabis a little bit into the video and stated you didn’t want to play it due to its pedophilic content, I’d like to point out that there’s now a remastered version of Dormitabis (called - surprise surprise - Dormitabis Remastered) that completely rewrites the story to remove all pedophilic content. It also fixes up and adds to the game proper in countless ways to make the worst FNAF fangame into arguably one of the best.
@@GavinGoniwicha No problem!^^ I watched David Baron play it with Pastra in a vod and just from watching it, it’s INFINITELY better of an experience - I could tell just from how much he was enjoying it.
It's weird that there's two Fnaf fan games with real murders. Tho somehow this game dodge the bullet of controversy unlike the Five Nights at the Haunted House app
I watched the documentary 77 Minutes and it's one of the most graphic documentaries I've ever seen. If you do watch it, I will warn you that it does show videos/pictures of the crime scene and you do see dead bodies. Its vile that someone would use a crime that people died, especially children for a FNAF fangame
@GavinGoniwicha I had to look away at that part because it was so hard seeing dead bodies of children. I watched it last year and it's still fresh in my mind
This game doesn't make ANY sense Why are the animatronics alive pre-massacre? Why are they trying to kill us? Why does the phone guys voice sound so stale? Why did the dev decide to make a game based off a massacre?
Honestly, i think why the animatronics try to kill us is because maybe they are possesed by the victims of the Massarce by the manager and are confusing the night guard with the manager.
Years ago i watched the police footage of the aftermat. My heart broke at the sight of the inoccent people no longer living. I really feel sorry for the victims as i cannot imagine something like this happening to my when i was a child going to a burger king.
Jesus Christ, I somehow never realized the game was directly based on a mass shooting! It’s really disgusting that the developer would use a real life tragedy as the basis for a FNaF fangame of all things. I hope the developer realized how horrible this is.
First of all, making a game about a sh00ting whether based on real life or not should be handled gently, and based on what you've shown us, the developer didn't. What makes it worse is just how unbelieveable the phone guys decent into madness is, I think instead of Phone guy referencing another sh00ting in the first phone call he should have talked about how the resturant has been abandoned and how easily society gives up on 'broken' things. It could be used as a reference to the company abandoning the phone guy and his son in the time of need. Overall, I think we should have heard more about how awful Phone guys life is going, and in the custom night it the "Screw everything" end should have happened. I think it'd give the story enough time to build. Maybe instead of a general sh00ting, it should have been Phone guy claiming he'd rob a bank and at the end of the game you could hear a news report about the bank robbery and what ended up happening. You could even have a multiple ending thing with an in game mechanic where you can collect money each night in the cam systems and choose to donate it to Phone guy, it isn't enough but it gives him faith in humanity so he doesn't choose the wrong path. In the good ending, you could get a phone call from Phone guy where he tells you his son is getting better and that he appreciates your support through this tough time. Idk if this is a good idea or not but I like it personally lol.
If the game happens before the massacre, how can the animatronics move at night and kill you? Are they programmed by the Phone Guy, or possessed by his victims?
I remember researching this tragedy a while ago. What makes the real incident extra tragic and disturbing is that the perp called a mental health clinic for help shortly before the incident, as touched on later in the video. While he made his choice, it can make one wonder if a returned phone call and better mental health services in general could have pevented the tragedy.
Still not as bad as >Makes a FNAF theory vid > Equates it to a pizza hut shooting >Was really confident about it >Creator says he was way off the mark > Vids still up Absolute giga Chad move
I feel like a Remake with a reimagining of the game would have made it better Yea this game was based off a gun massacre and I guess it was very disrespectful but a remake to this Fnaf game would be better if a remake to Five nights at Ronald’s were to separate the games backstory from the actual massacre itself so it doesn’t feel Connected, then it would be better than the original game itself
This shooting happened when I was a little little kid, and it made me afraid to go to McDonald's for a while. Not sure how I feel about it being used as a subject for a game - I kinda agree with comments that compare it to a creepypasta trying to be edgy. But I don't think it was done out of maliciousness, just out of immaturity. It's callous & distasteful, especially considering the death toll & how many were young children, but I don't think it was done out of spite to victims/survivors.
it's a shame people do this to their games, honestly, you can make a really solid fucking game, if your story has shit like this, it instantly drives people away, that's why i don't fuck with Dormitabis or five nights at chuck & cheese (idk if fnacec has anything related to the shooting theory, but it really drives me away that it was made in a time where this theory was still decently popular)
also made me think of the chuck e cheese murders that people thought fnaf was based on in the beginning Five people were involved in a shooting at a Chuck E. Cheese's restaurant in Aurora, Colorado on December 14, 1993: Four employees: Were shot and killed One employee: Was seriously injured Nathan Dunlap: The 19-year-old perpetrator, a former employee of the restaurant, was frustrated about being fired five months prior to the shooting
While I think that Phone guy quoting James Huberty and the name similairties are damning evidences that this game might indeed be inspired from this specific incident, I think it's important to concider that workplaces are actually pretty common places for shootings to occur. According to the research conducted by The Violence Project, the most common places for someone who just got laid off to start a mass shooting is their former workplace and is more common for retail locations like restaurants and bars. Edit: Sorry for the Yapfest
I hate fnaf fan games that use real people’s death for there dumb robot story. Like that haunted mansion game that used Real pictures of missing people that were Killed. Or that fnaf vhs tape that used real missing kids
@@GavinGoniwicha The game was Five Nights at the Haunted House, a dodgy FNAF knock-off on the Google Play store. At the beginning of the game, two pictures of newspaper articles about missing people were shown. The people in question were 14 year old Suzanne Bombardier who was kidnapped and stabbed to death in 1980 and 24 year old Tammy Niver who went missing in 1993 and was murdered. It has now been delisted from the Google Play store, which I think is definitely for the best Not sure what the VHS tape was tho.
7:00 Dormitabus has always been a great game to me, I never knew about the developer until a few months ago by now though. I still love it though, cause of how exaggerated the game really gets, and the idea of it taking place in a purgatory after death. I have to separate the art from the artist, I can hate the artist, but love the art
@ and that’s perfectly fine, that’s horror. What’s not fine is the fact it’s based on what the creator apparently likes. Hence separating the art from the artist
@@accelgenesis1667 you say that as if horror games, hell, even just rated R games in general don’t have worse shit. Assassins creed alone has every type of death possible, suicide, child murder, etc. And guess what? People love those games. These are used in games all the time. How is Dormitibus any different?
Profit? Excuse me, but this is a FNaF fan game, you can't make money of it unless Scott says so and you have original characters And it's not for views or attention either, the game does not revolve around the San Ysidro massacre, and does not even try to fully detail it. The game is simply based on the idea of a McDonald's shooting, and the afformentioned one was the most 'popular', the only direct references being the name "Huberty", and the line "Society had it's chance". Or could you perhaps be talking about Gavin? I haven't noticed of the video is yet monetized (ads).
The thing is - with the first call, when he explains what happened - It was too blaintent - just "hey, you know this palce you are working. Well this one guy got peeved and sh0t everyone". I think if the creator needed to include a real world event, they should do it softly and over time- Maybe allude to something happening - like "the last Security Guard... he- well... there is a reason why we are now hiring again... you know why" - of course, the player does not - and so entices them to play further. Eventually through lore and these calls, revealing what the previous emplyee did. Either that or not base it on a real world event in the first place -
Why does the phone guy sound so casual mentioning the sh••tings and the fact that the robots are just alive for some reason. Anyways, his name better be Arthur.
I may play the devil's advocate here, but i'm not even surprised the fact that this game was made based of a real life murder 2015 was a time where the internet could do all sorts of stuff freely without any problems, and the developer probably was a edgy kid/teen making this game, kids always does dumb shit, hopefully they realized their mistake when they grown up, otherwise, it's interesting to know a video about this game recently
While the game is pretty similar to the shooting, I think we all know that the youtuber just made this video with the intention of getting as much views and money as possible since true cases or crimes are pretty trending here in youtube
Okay so for the audio that was from a broadcast it's actually from 2 different events one was from the colmbine shooting and the other I can't figure out the reason I remember the colmbine one was because my teacher showed us a documentary and had that specific news broadcast
In my opinion, there’s nothing wrong with using a real-life tragedy/crime for your story. This game is less The Girl Next Door (or if you squint enough Mouthwashing) and more American Horror Story, though.
I remember watching his playthrough as well, in fact, he was the first youtuber I watched play this game, then a few days to a week later, I watched Poiised play this game (I was 10 years old when I so happened to watch these videos, which was 8 years ago).
An American family believing they had a better chance at providing for themselves in Mexico is incredibly sad. Especially 1980s Mexico, which is when things were starting to rapidly deteriorate in Latin America.
I always found Five Nights at Ronald’s cringe and weird because of the goofy ah jumpscares, I always preferred FNwMT (five nights at Mac tonight) but I never knew this was based on a real story
Frankly, even though i believe if used correctly even the most heinous shit can be put in video games for the sake of world building (for example new vegas spells out in no uncertain terms that there are evil people pdffiles, grapists without the g, and even human traffickers (sometimes all 3) but the difference here is it spurs the player to kill the evil NPCs that partook in these actions as a from of vigilante justice) this stuff being in the game is just distasteful and definitely makes this game very disgusting its also antithetical to what scott's world building in his franchise (going back to dormidibus Scott has said in no uncertain terms that pdfilia has no place in this community)
who the hell shoots up a MC Donald's? i can an minimum understand (not saying its right) a school or government building. but if its somthing like a MC Donald's or just random people in the streets then your just announcing your not in the right and your an asshole. but then to have someone else make a game based on said event with said asshole? what the hell is he thinking?
It's hard to explain but the guy was just a sick, racist POS. He told his wife that he was "going hunting" when she saw him leaving the house with the gun
Can't forget the fact that they went to the same McDonald's hours earlier to eat some lunch. Then later after the massacre, his wife tried to sue McDonald's for making the food so bad that it caused him to shoot up the place. McDonald's reopened the place a few weeks later, but was quickly demolished due to so many people living in the area asking for it to be demolished since the tragedy, which was later demolished and built a college with a monument that reads off the names of the people who have died there.
Probably, but "when" is the question Oh, and I sincerely doubt those people are the real life people, cause c'mon, it doesn't make sense why the dev would do that, it's only 6 compared to 22 (and we can't figure out if there were two massacres or just one)
The villain suddenly going from "I hope my son is okay 😢" to "Y'KNOW WHAT KILL ALL OF SOCIETY 🤬🤬🤬" over the span of one night instead of how the irl shooter declined slowly into insanity is such a "14 year old writing a creepypasta" thing that it makes the entire game come off as a joke
Which also makes it feel a bit more disrespectful and insensitive to the real murders, which is kinda shit
sorry if the intention was to laugh, just thought people would look into it
My thoughts exactly... very distasteful
And people will get offended by it, regardless of how hilarious a "14 year old writing a creepypasta" is.
@@danius_huganius Nah I agree. It wouldn't be such a big problem if it wasn't so heavily inspired by the shooting
The Joker said that it takes „one bad day” though
Honestly, as a wise game dev once said "Making a game based on real life murders is just really distasteful and just sad and messed up" and I totally agree with Scott Cawthon
What if the developer was handling it more sensitively, instead of glorifying it beyond the point of sympathy.
@@TheProdigalKnight idk, maybe it would be okay
Yeah like, Scott Cawthon might be a horribly misguided individual when it comes to politics, but he at least has the moral courtesy to not base his franchise on REAL murders. God damn...
@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 Why did you see the need to bring in his politic views lmao
Such a backhanded compliment
Well fuck Jack Ketchum then, am I right?
I had never heard of the San Ysidro Massacre until today. It predates Columbine and yet it's apparently never brought up. For the common masses, the timeline for the plague for this kind of violence starts in 1999. And that's really sad. It took the same thing happening in a school to make a lasting impact on the public.
It's weird to think it happened 40 years back...But I first heard of it through Watchmojo's 2011 video of the deadliest mass shootings in the US and in the world. To this very day, The Las Vegas shooting is considered the worst in the world, having it be tied with the Norway bombing and camp shooting nearly 6 years prior to the Las Vegas massacre.
To be honest, what peaked my interest into school shootings was a 2007 shooting that occurred somewhere in europe, and the weird thing is that I might have seen that person's youtube channel back in 2007 long before they were taken down, including the one where the shooter in 2007 had the photos of the school he toke but colored it over with the video software in red. But it wouldn't be until Rachael's Challenge, as well as the 2011 tsunami and earthquake incident in Japan, and watchmojo's video, that made me look into these shootings in the first place.
To be honest, it's unfortunate how these tend to happen, especially at the school facilities. But I do think in my opinion, if you wish to stop shooters altogether, you might as well kill the shooters back before the individual has the chance to kill you in real life.
Multiple of my dads best friends were in that mcdonalds and killed that day, it’s weird to see that a game was made about it…
This game scared the hell out of me when I was younger especially the violent jumpscares 😭😭
same😭
That's gross, Also i recall one shitty fnaf mobile game that used REAL MISSING PEOPLE
Omg was it that fnaf moble game that had ghost in some mansion- 💀
@@zithandraharo7432 What was this Fnaf fan game called
@@zithandraharo7432 FnaHH (Haunted House is such a trash name)
Andiematronic covered that in a video
I still find it interesting how this game was one of the early fnaf fangames that was made on Unity instead of the usual Clickteam Engine.
The thing is, basing horror off of real world tragedies or crimes isnt always a bad thing
For example, Ad Infinitum is based on World War 1 and the horrors of war as well as the lingering trauma felt by those involved but its executed extremely well
The original texas chainsaw massacre is an absolute classic of horror media and it was partially inspired by the real case of Ed Gein
Don't even get me started about how many times Jack the Ripper has been used in all kinds of media for inspiration
The issue here is just how poorly its handled and how ham fisted it comes across, especially with how it handles the shooter himself and lack of tact in handling the events of the crime
Theres not enough of a barrier between the real crime and the game story as well (like how Texas Chainsaw took some light inspiration from Ed Gein but made no direct ties to him aside from the graphic nature of his crime)
It just comes off as extremely disrespectful and like zero consideration was taken for the victims whatsoever
Honestly the jumpscares and the phone call were the only reasons I even never forget this game. Everything else is just sorta typical standard fnaf stuff
I only remember this game because of the jumpscares and blasphemoushd
I have a theory: the phone calls are prerecorded, & Night 1's phone call takes place after the shooting, while 2, 3, & 4 all take place before the shooting.
Edit: I've got something to add onto that theory: the people who were killed in the shooting now possess the animatronics (there's 6 animatronics & 6 victims of the shooting). With this in mind, not only do most of the phone calls take place before the shooting, but also all of the phone calls in general take place before Night 1. So they're all prerecorded, so they're basically voice messages. I dunno what the phone guy was thinking with these voice messages, but he must be deranged as fuck!
Great theory!
when you put it that way it makes alot of sense now
True because four sounds more like the previous guy because one talked about the shooting if you did hear closely about being fired, angry, and saying a threat.
the night 1 call is probably also by a different person
@ obviously
It also worth noticing that there was some person along with team were planning to make full on Remastered version of Five nights at ronald by FreshDecimate. However it ended getting cancelled due to its internal instability as its been sitting in limbo and thus end the project.
Its probably for the best tbh
@@GavinGoniwicha tho it sucks that the remastered was cancelled as it has so much potential as the remastered looks so good and its possible that they were planning on expanded and changing the story complely.
@@GavinGoniwicha hmmm... truth to be told, I wouldn't be that quick to crucify something like a remake/remaster, especially if it takes out the more "offensive" content.
@@TheProdigalKnight I suppose but at the same time considering the descriptions of the page hinted that the shooting element would've returned, I would personally think that little would be changed
@@TheProdigalKnight just like with the dormintus remastered/remake did as well.
The game is memorable for the jumpscares, the gameplay, the visuals, AND for being based on the real life event
It’s Ahead Of It’s Time For Me.
Pretty sure no one really knows about the real life event so its not really that memorable.
@@jackweirdogamer1029probably better said that most people who play this game don’t remember. Plenty of people who grew up in the 80s are still alive 😂
11:58 bro is the joker😭
Nah, he's the Jerkler
Why is he the jonkler? is he stupid?
@@buzzcutinteractive it's time for Man!
@@TheProdigalKnight Man, Ham or gin?
@@buzzcutinteractive ...MAN! *dramatic music*
fangames that does those type of things are quite the disrespect to scott's view of fnaf as a whole
Matt patts fault for saying fnaf is based on a chuck e cheese shooting which probably the main reason this fan game was made
@@Black072YT72 yeah tho, the coincidence is so accurate that it would've been considered sometime
tho we all can agree that scott would definitively dislike these types of fangames
@@danius_huganius true scott wouldn't condone this
@@Black072YT72doesn’t matter. Look at Winnie the Pooh blood and honey, and the new Disney style shooting game based off of steamboat Willy. Artistic license, whether people like it or not. Keeps things interesting.
@@Black072YT72 truth to be told, Scott Cawthon doesn't really condone most horror games in general. I mean, have you seen the direction the current FNAF series has taken?
hearing that this horrific tragedy happened in san diego really hit me in a way. not from there, but from the neighboring state of arizona where san diego is a common vacation spot. grew up going there almost every summer, only having not been there 2 summers of my 2 decades of life. im really fond of the place, being an ocean lover growing up and a marine bio major now san diego has just always had a special place in my heart. rest in peace to everyone who died in that, i hope their families have found at least some peace since then.
The phone guy starts off by saying a massacre happened, then says he's been fired, then the massacre happens.
So the story isn't even good.
Is John (our protagonist) phone guy? Does he commit the massacre? Did the first massacre even happen? If so, why aren't there any other mentions or details about it? Are the animatronics even possessed or haunted?
@@thegoldensuperior1863 The number of massacres is never explained. Though the one massacre mentioned on night one seems to have had six victims and there's six animatronics. But then the phone guy went and did the massacre on night 4, so...
@@walnzell9328it’s thought that the calls on the other nights were prerecorded, and that the first call is post-shooting, and the others are pre-shooting
@@speedymetal Despite the same voices, the caller from night 1 could've been someone else as he mentioned the other caller getting fired because the latter is the shooter
@@speedymetalso bro was like “imma shoot tf up this mcdonalods but before I do I’mma js leave a training tape for the next security guy cus I am deffffinitely gon kms after this.”
basing a fangame on REAL CASES is so insensitive (reminds me of that one bootleg mobile FNAF game that used A REAL MISSING WOMAN)
this is why Five Nights with Mac Tonight is the goat when it comes to McDonald's themed fangames
ykl there was also a fnaf bootleg about a REAL dead woman who died in a fire it was disgusting..
@epic12lol yes that was the game i was referring to
i misremembered lolmao
@@epic12lol What was it called? Im like, genuinely interested now, this seems very concerning.
I think it’s very disrespectful too. Didn’t want to say because I think I’ll be shut up for thinking so.
@@buzzcutinteractiveLook up "five nights at haunted house"
I remember back when I watched The Game Salmon play it back when I watched his content. Wild that it was based off of a real massacre.
same
Since you mentioned Dormitabis a little bit into the video and stated you didn’t want to play it due to its pedophilic content, I’d like to point out that there’s now a remastered version of Dormitabis (called - surprise surprise - Dormitabis Remastered) that completely rewrites the story to remove all pedophilic content. It also fixes up and adds to the game proper in countless ways to make the worst FNAF fangame into arguably one of the best.
Might need to try this, thank you for telling me this as I didn't know this existed somehow.
@@GavinGoniwicha No problem!^^ I watched David Baron play it with Pastra in a vod and just from watching it, it’s INFINITELY better of an experience - I could tell just from how much he was enjoying it.
This fangame is probably awareness, though I'm not sure, all I know, is,
WHAT THE HELL WAS THIS GUY DOING
It's weird that there's two Fnaf fan games with real murders. Tho somehow this game dodge the bullet of controversy unlike the Five Nights at the Haunted House app
the difference is that this game doesn’t use the real faces and names of the deceased.
@@tjones9097 That's true
It feels like the guy who made this game watched game theories video on how FNAF is based on a real murder that happened in Chuck E. Cheese.
I didn't know it was based on an actual crime
same and its so dark but for the wrong reasons
0:21 is it just me or does this guy look like Donald Trump?
I think so
naww he ain't orange enough
@@Zoé_zoisiteee bruh that actually make me laugh 😂😂😂
Yes, But Without his orange spray tan
I hate that you said that because I immediately thought that when seeing him
I watched the documentary 77 Minutes and it's one of the most graphic documentaries I've ever seen. If you do watch it, I will warn you that it does show videos/pictures of the crime scene and you do see dead bodies. Its vile that someone would use a crime that people died, especially children for a FNAF fangame
Yep, watched it to research this video. Extremely saddening.
@GavinGoniwicha I had to look away at that part because it was so hard seeing dead bodies of children. I watched it last year and it's still fresh in my mind
I literally got a nightmare about this exact game, because of how the game visuals look and at the time I just thought it was an ordinary fangame
I remember watching a Rob Gavigan video on the McDonald sh**ting when I was a kid. Probably one of the most traumatic things I’ve ever watched.
This game doesn't make ANY sense
Why are the animatronics alive pre-massacre?
Why are they trying to kill us?
Why does the phone guys voice sound so stale?
Why did the dev decide to make a game based off a massacre?
Honestly, i think why the animatronics try to kill us is because maybe they are possesed by the victims of the Massarce by the manager and are confusing the night guard with the manager.
Years ago i watched the police footage of the aftermat. My heart broke at the sight of the inoccent people no longer living. I really feel sorry for the victims as i cannot imagine something like this happening to my when i was a child going to a burger king.
Jesus Christ, I somehow never realized the game was directly based on a mass shooting! It’s really disgusting that the developer would use a real life tragedy as the basis for a FNaF fangame of all things. I hope the developer realized how horrible this is.
Remember seeing dev updates on this game wen it was being made, seeing it crop up again now and hearing what it turned into is is
It's somthin alright
First of all, making a game about a sh00ting whether based on real life or not should be handled gently, and based on what you've shown us, the developer didn't.
What makes it worse is just how unbelieveable the phone guys decent into madness is, I think instead of Phone guy referencing another sh00ting in the first phone call he should have talked about how the resturant has been abandoned and how easily society gives up on 'broken' things. It could be used as a reference to the company abandoning the phone guy and his son in the time of need.
Overall, I think we should have heard more about how awful Phone guys life is going, and in the custom night it the "Screw everything" end should have happened. I think it'd give the story enough time to build.
Maybe instead of a general sh00ting, it should have been Phone guy claiming he'd rob a bank and at the end of the game you could hear a news report about the bank robbery and what ended up happening.
You could even have a multiple ending thing with an in game mechanic where you can collect money each night in the cam systems and choose to donate it to Phone guy, it isn't enough but it gives him faith in humanity so he doesn't choose the wrong path. In the good ending, you could get a phone call from Phone guy where he tells you his son is getting better and that he appreciates your support through this tough time. Idk if this is a good idea or not but I like it personally lol.
That escalated quickly 7:52
If the game happens before the massacre, how can the animatronics move at night and kill you? Are they programmed by the Phone Guy, or possessed by his victims?
I was confused too, would there really be two shootings at the same place or so? I don't know, doesn't click with me
My theory this happened after the massacre or It could have been a time loop
I can't believe this is how I find out one of the most infamous shootings in history happened on my birthday
I remember this game foundy but i didn’t know the back story
I swear I thought Gavin was showing clips of the creator until he said originality in quotes, and that’s when I realized he was showing his face
I never knew this was based on a real event, interesting video
I mean… FNaC (Five Nights at Candy’s) was a pretty good story… just not as true and violent as _this_
I remember researching this tragedy a while ago. What makes the real incident extra tragic and disturbing is that the perp called a mental health clinic for help shortly before the incident, as touched on later in the video. While he made his choice, it can make one wonder if a returned phone call and better mental health services in general could have pevented the tragedy.
Wasn't MatPat's first game theory on FNAF around this?
No he made tyat theory based on Nathan’s Dunlap murder
Close, it was based off of a Chuck E Cheese shooting instead of a McDonalds one.
if theas are based on real deaths, i'm surprised it hasn't been on a top 10 more controversial fnaf fan games thing
Still not as bad as
>Makes a FNAF theory vid
> Equates it to a pizza hut shooting
>Was really confident about it
>Creator says he was way off the mark
> Vids still up
Absolute giga Chad move
why did you use Carol of the bells as the music
Thinking the same thing🤨
The phone guy text feels so unnatural like its been written by ai
Yet, 9 Years Ago...
I feel like a Remake with a reimagining of the game would have made it better
Yea this game was based off a gun massacre and I guess it was very disrespectful but a remake to this Fnaf game would be better if a remake to Five nights at Ronald’s were to separate the games backstory from the actual massacre itself so it doesn’t feel Connected, then it would be better than the original game itself
This shooting happened when I was a little little kid, and it made me afraid to go to McDonald's for a while. Not sure how I feel about it being used as a subject for a game - I kinda agree with comments that compare it to a creepypasta trying to be edgy. But I don't think it was done out of maliciousness, just out of immaturity. It's callous & distasteful, especially considering the death toll & how many were young children, but I don't think it was done out of spite to victims/survivors.
It’s crazy how it’s based off of a real masccure
Masscure
Musketeers
Y'all it's massacre 😭😭😭
Making a game based off of such a brutal event; that’s just horrible
i love your choice of bg music for this video!!
Got here after released for 4 min oh and the thing this is based off is insanely disturbing💀😭
it's a shame people do this to their games, honestly, you can make a really solid fucking game, if your story has shit like this, it instantly drives people away, that's why i don't fuck with Dormitabis or five nights at chuck & cheese (idk if fnacec has anything related to the shooting theory, but it really drives me away that it was made in a time where this theory was still decently popular)
I remember a Spanish UA-camr who had the balls to theorize that FNWMT's lore was set after FNAR
jeez, thats a tad bit messed up to use a real life event in order for an old fnaf game to have a good story, but its a good plot i suppose.
im less shocked that theres a fnaf fan game based on a real life murder, but more that theres only one
also made me think of the chuck e cheese murders that people thought fnaf was based on in the beginning
Five people were involved in a shooting at a Chuck E. Cheese's restaurant in Aurora, Colorado on December 14, 1993:
Four employees: Were shot and killed
One employee: Was seriously injured
Nathan Dunlap: The 19-year-old perpetrator, a former employee of the restaurant, was frustrated about being fired five months prior to the shooting
While I think that Phone guy quoting James Huberty and the name similairties are damning evidences that this game might indeed be inspired from this specific incident, I think it's important to concider that workplaces are actually pretty common places for shootings to occur. According to the research conducted by The Violence Project, the most common places for someone who just got laid off to start a mass shooting is their former workplace and is more common for retail locations like restaurants and bars.
Edit: Sorry for the Yapfest
I envy his hair....
I thought this was about Five Nights With Mac Tonight.
That game definitely better than five nights at Ronald's
i got ptsd from a video i found from this sad massacre. i want to forget the video of the dead people.
Wait, I’m early? I thought this was an older video. That’s funny.
When i saw gavin gone I immediately thought of gavin's friend from rdr2 who keeps looking for gavin
I hate fnaf fan games that use real people’s death for there dumb robot story. Like that haunted mansion game that used Real pictures of missing people that were Killed. Or that fnaf vhs tape that used real missing kids
Yep, I hate it so much. What was the game and VHS tape?
Games can do based on a true story
@@GavinGoniwicha The game was Five Nights at the Haunted House, a dodgy FNAF knock-off on the Google Play store. At the beginning of the game, two pictures of newspaper articles about missing people were shown. The people in question were 14 year old Suzanne Bombardier who was kidnapped and stabbed to death in 1980 and 24 year old Tammy Niver who went missing in 1993 and was murdered. It has now been delisted from the Google Play store, which I think is definitely for the best
Not sure what the VHS tape was tho.
@@amymullins2992 here, here. I don't know why these people snap so hard when they see this stuff, just because it's in a "game about robots"
dude I'm in San Diego, that's crazy..
this game was actually scary back then, even if its based on a real thing, it just made things scarier 😭😭
19:05 SILENT HILL 2 REFERENCED?!?!
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Dormitabus has always been a great game to me, I never knew about the developer until a few months ago by now though. I still love it though, cause of how exaggerated the game really gets, and the idea of it taking place in a purgatory after death. I have to separate the art from the artist, I can hate the artist, but love the art
My brother in christ one of the scenes in the theatre minigame literally depict Garvey dragging a teen into the backroom to rape her.
@ and that’s perfectly fine, that’s horror. What’s not fine is the fact it’s based on what the creator apparently likes. Hence separating the art from the artist
@@isaiah5833 If you think that's perfectly fine then someone needs to check your hard drives.
@@accelgenesis1667 you say that as if horror games, hell, even just rated R games in general don’t have worse shit. Assassins creed alone has every type of death possible, suicide, child murder, etc.
And guess what? People love those games. These are used in games all the time. How is Dormitibus any different?
*Real people die*
Someone: How can I profit!? 🤑🫰
Profit? Excuse me, but this is a FNaF fan game, you can't make money of it unless Scott says so and you have original characters
And it's not for views or attention either, the game does not revolve around the San Ysidro massacre, and does not even try to fully detail it. The game is simply based on the idea of a McDonald's shooting, and the afformentioned one was the most 'popular', the only direct references being the name "Huberty", and the line "Society had it's chance".
Or could you perhaps be talking about Gavin? I haven't noticed of the video is yet monetized (ads).
Yeah, maybe I get what you mean now, my bad, perhaps
correction: how can i get attention from this
Ronald is the base of all my childhood trauma
The thing is - with the first call, when he explains what happened -
It was too blaintent - just "hey, you know this palce you are working. Well this one guy got peeved and sh0t everyone".
I think if the creator needed to include a real world event, they should do it softly and over time-
Maybe allude to something happening - like "the last Security Guard... he- well... there is a reason why we are now hiring again... you know why" - of course, the player does not - and so entices them to play further. Eventually through lore and these calls, revealing what the previous emplyee did.
Either that or not base it on a real world event in the first place -
"Society had its chance" goes hard
Why does the phone guy sound so casual mentioning the sh••tings and the fact that the robots are just alive for some reason. Anyways, his name better be Arthur.
This is way employer's need to be careful when firing.
I watched the documentary for it and oh boy I was not ready for it.......
where's the hamburger tho?
I may play the devil's advocate here, but i'm not even surprised the fact that this game was made based of a real life murder
2015 was a time where the internet could do all sorts of stuff freely without any problems, and the developer probably was a edgy kid/teen making this game, kids always does dumb shit, hopefully they realized their mistake when they grown up, otherwise, it's interesting to know a video about this game recently
While the game is pretty similar to the shooting, I think we all know that the youtuber just made this video with the intention of getting as much views and money as possible since true cases or crimes are pretty trending here in youtube
Did the creator admitted that he did made the fnaf fan game was made based on the real mascara?
i think this game would've been a classic if the murder wasn't based on a real one. the visuals are pretty poor but their still creepy in that way
When he censored shooting, I thought it was something else💀
Okay so for the audio that was from a broadcast it's actually from 2 different events one was from the colmbine shooting and the other I can't figure out the reason I remember the colmbine one was because my teacher showed us a documentary and had that specific news broadcast
In my opinion, there’s nothing wrong with using a real-life tragedy/crime for your story. This game is less The Girl Next Door (or if you squint enough Mouthwashing) and more American Horror Story, though.
How so?
If I may ask since I've never watched American Horror Story
@@ChaseDaOrk3767technically, the events of American horror story did happen, however, they are incredibly romanticised and changed up.
The voice acting could NOT save this game. I loved it when I was younger, not knowing what the undertones were!
I most definitely remember this game, I watched Yamimash playthrough. The Jumpscare is unforgettable
I remember watching his playthrough as well, in fact, he was the first youtuber I watched play this game, then a few days to a week later, I watched Poiised play this game (I was 10 years old when I so happened to watch these videos, which was 8 years ago).
This game is like a cheeseburger from McDonald’s, tasteless
WOAH, WHAT A BURN!
Not like they heat it well
I never even noticed that the phone call was this in the game
I've heard of this game before, and I knew it was the San Ysidro McDonald's Massacre of July 18th, 1984?
btw thats the same voice as the reporter of the incident so um yes. it is related 100%...
Hey, I'm a local around that area!
An American family believing they had a better chance at providing for themselves in Mexico is incredibly sad. Especially 1980s Mexico, which is when things were starting to rapidly deteriorate in Latin America.
I can’t find the song you used in video anywhere? What’s the name of it? The first segment!
I liked this video, was good!
I think the song "Sweet dreams are made of screams" a creepypasta fanmade song of "Sweet dreams are made of these"
What’s that music you’ve got in the background called?
not July 18th...
At this point if you die in 2024 your death will be put in a FNAF fan game
I always found Five Nights at Ronald’s cringe and weird because of the goofy ah jumpscares, I always preferred FNwMT (five nights at Mac tonight) but I never knew this was based on a real story
Frankly, even though i believe if used correctly even the most heinous shit can be put in video games for the sake of world building (for example new vegas spells out in no uncertain terms that there are evil people pdffiles, grapists without the g, and even human traffickers (sometimes all 3) but the difference here is it spurs the player to kill the evil NPCs that partook in these actions as a from of vigilante justice) this stuff being in the game is just distasteful and definitely makes this game very disgusting its also antithetical to what scott's world building in his franchise (going back to dormidibus Scott has said in no uncertain terms that pdfilia has no place in this community)
Soon there's going to be you killdozer the FNAF game your a security guard and you have to hold off a killdozer and San Diego tank rampage mode
who the hell shoots up a MC Donald's? i can an minimum understand (not saying its right) a school or government building. but if its somthing like a MC Donald's or just random people in the streets then your just announcing your not in the right and your an asshole. but then to have someone else make a game based on said event with said asshole? what the hell is he thinking?
It's hard to explain but the guy was just a sick, racist POS. He told his wife that he was "going hunting" when she saw him leaving the house with the gun
Can't forget the fact that they went to the same McDonald's hours earlier to eat some lunch. Then later after the massacre, his wife tried to sue McDonald's for making the food so bad that it caused him to shoot up the place. McDonald's reopened the place a few weeks later, but was quickly demolished due to so many people living in the area asking for it to be demolished since the tragedy, which was later demolished and built a college with a monument that reads off the names of the people who have died there.
I vaguely remember this game, especially since I was five when I came out so I don’t remember that much about it, but it is giving me nostalgia😊❤
this game was made 9 years ago who cares anymore people were edgy back then
hes not happy probally with his actions
Yeah, this is the internet, where you can make and show just about everything...
*Everything* 😶
@@thegoldensuperior1863 no hes edgy teenager back then
I believe that the animatronics in this game are possessed by the six dead people
Probably, but "when" is the question
Oh, and I sincerely doubt those people are the real life people, cause c'mon, it doesn't make sense why the dev would do that, it's only 6 compared to 22 (and we can't figure out if there were two massacres or just one)
is this about scomo shitting himself in a maccas?