The Champ 1931 (Ending scene) Classic
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- This is a scene from the ending
of the original movie The Champ.
This movie won 2 oscars.
1 for actor Wallace Beery, and 1 for Best Writing, Original Story
Frances Marion .
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Nothing like little Ricky Schroder's performance in the 1979 version. Absolutely stellar.
He stole the entire movie from some of the greatest actors and actresses at the time. He deserved an Oscar. I didn’t watch this movie for 30 years because I could never watch it twice because it was just so sad and Ricky Schroeder did an incredible job.
Jackie Cooper said that after the scene ended he was still in the moment he went to hug Wallace. Well Wallace pushed him away and said get off me kid. Now that’s acting.
wait, is that the same Jackie Cooper that played Perry White in Superman?...Wow
@@ihategoogle6066 yes
They did psychological abuse in Schroeder to get him to cry
Then Wallace saw Ricky Schroder and said “Now THAT’S acting”
@@brendaechols5929 Now that's dedication.....everything for the movie right?
I don't understand why anyone would feel the need to remake this film. It is perfect. Classic. It's Jackie Cooper in peak form. This movie is the champ!
The remake has a gorgeous score by Dave Grusin.
I grew up with the 1979 remake, but this is no less heartbreaking. Both of these versions will HURT you.
more tears in the 2nd one this was they said better but who knows
Ricky Schroeder did an awesome job
Someone can do their doctoral dissertation on how many hearts Jackie Cooper has brutally ripped out with this performance.
Jackie Cooper is basically the adult of the relationship throughout the film until this scene. He's basically letting all of the "kid temper tantrum" out after his father's death. In the remake, he's not his father's caretaker in the same way, which changes the story significantly.
They made him think they had just shot his dog in this scene
Little guy is crying because he thinks his best furry friend had just been gunned down
That makes it so much more sad.
Hollowwsstory what
@Veterano 1525 Actually that is just Hollywood lore and its amazing how things get jumbled - that did NOT happen here with Jackie Cooper. There was the legend that director Vincent Minelli told Margaret O'Brien her dog had died to get her to cry on camera for Meet me In St. Louis but O'Brien stated that was all made up by the press.
MJ He wrote about it in his autobiography. Your google search did you no favors, kiddo. Any geezer like myself knows about Jackie Coopers account of that scene. Have you never heard of the book, "Please don't shoot my dog, mister"?!....
@@47Prosteam who the fuck on earth has actually heard of that book
that was a different movie that movie was Skippy not the champ
So sad, he just watched champ die in front of him, and the performance he delivered is absolutely breath taking.
Then when he sees his mom.
It gets me every time.
I don't know how anyone can say anything bad about this.
Lol bad thing is they dragged his real dog off set and acted like they shot it to get a reaction
i love this movie
yes indeed
the old movies were wonderful
Saw this movie for the first time recently and was blown away! This scene has stayed with me - Cooper was amazing in this movie! So much emotion and facial expression for such a young actor.
I love old movies! Yes he was awesome..
Jackie Cooper, I think, did the very best he could with less than stellar dialogue, blocking, and performances from the other people here. His character also spends most of the movie acting as the "adult" figure taking care of his own father, that it makes perfect sense he should break down like a child when he loses him. It's a very good performance in a mostly misguided scene.
There might be different criteria today than there was deadens ago as to what makes good or bad dialogue. Surely it is subjective and may have a lot to do with people of today not having the same perspectives or tastes as previous generations. Or it could be said to be a matter of having lower standards of what makes a good movie and what makes good acting. The original "The Champ" is considered a classic which is a very automatic thing because it was made during what is considered to be Hollywood's golden age and early heyday. The remake of the 1970s actually was considered to be something that was done because at the time certain well known movies of the previous three decades were being re-made and put into a more modern context.
@@obscurelyvague You know that jackie cooper wasn't acting right? He thought his dog was dead that is why he was crying in the end. He deserved the award.
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It's about an emotional connection, forget about dialogue, (not everyone talks like Shakespeare) how did it make you feel?
The purpose of a movie is to feel emotion.
And this one delivers quite well.
Then he grew up to work at The Daily Planet.
I saw this on TCM with my dad back on new years day weekend in 2020 from coming home from work and I catch the ending.it made me cry uncontrollable.i tried to hold the tears back.but when the kid keep saying I want the champ.over and over again I ran to the bathroom trying to keep myself from crying.
Every time I watch this! One of the👌scenes to make me 😢 !
I think all three versions were great and products of their time. Jackie Cooper did great acting for a child in the 1931 version, in the 1953 remake starring Red Skeleton and Tim Considine as "Dink", that ending was heartbreaking too, but the 1979 version with The Champ dying and Rick Schroeder walking to Faye Dunaway and just embracing her while crying and not saying a word was powerful. All three versions were great in my humble opinion.
That kid is one of The Little Rascals He did okay I think Ricky Schroder Nailed it If Ricky Schroder didn't make you cry In the champ then there's something wrong with you
I didn't cry but didn't cry, but i got a sad and depressing feeling in my heart, which was still because i was sad. Sometimes, if I'm sad, end up exsperrssing it in different ways other than crying. I definitely feel sadness for the character, though.
I don't get why people are saying this one is better or the '79 version was better. They're both great! Just different. Acting standards have changed dramatically. (pun intended) Remember, this was only two year after movies had become "talkies" and in silent movies overacting was the norm. I think both these kids were excellent actors.
Well said!
Amen
I personally feel like there was replication of actual human emotions. I feel like this was a believable performance. Maybe because Hollywood was just starting to get experienced in that era. I still respect older movies, though, because those actors and actresses paved the way. However, i think the 1979 version felt real. The 1979 version makes me wanto cry.
Wallace Beery and Jackie Cooper hated each others guts......and were forced to make four films together
Ricky Shroeders "Performance" seemed just that...but Cooper's acting came off the way a real life circumstance would...a child his age would not thoroughly connect with death.. especially sudden death...their reaction would be "un-thought out" and "sporadic" just like this...While heartfelt, Rick Schroeders version was a played out Hallmark performance making for great cinema. Here we get what real life tends to produce...not always clear..but nonetheless Transparent.
I'm I the only one that shed a tear?
Jackie cooper was amazing
Probably. Good as Jackie was Schroder did it much better. Of course he had the benefit of working with Zeffirelli and watching this one and seeing what went wrong.
No
Yep
Most likely. You wanna cry then watch the 79 version with Ricky Schroeder.
Jackie Cooper did great.. but Ricky Schroeder took this role to another level.
I didn't think it got sad till the part where he said the champ is dead mama then that's when he really starting crying
What a fantastic movie.
it makes me cry i bought this movie in french today
Jackie Cooper was great! Especially for this this time. Ricky of course KILLS YOU, But Jackie will always be great!
Oh come on now! 🤭
fantastic old movies
I love the 79 one 😍
He did do a better job on crying in skippy then he did on this one and Skippy was the one where his uncle said go shoot his dog.
If the 70's version can be used as a psychological experiment to judge what depressed people will cry at than this version could be used to see what depressed people will laugh at
Douglas Doyle Give me a break, dude. This is 1931.
Yeah speaks wonders that during a depression they couldn't relate that on screen and honestly it's a joke just settle down and let it die a death if you didn't find it a good one
This ending still breaks my heart. It’s so fucking soul crushing.
I cry every time.
Movies like this should never die.
To be honest I think that this movie is pathetic compared to the remake it's kind of even more pathetic that it's the original you would think of be the opposite way around They seem like a kid that got his ball taken away instead of having really motions like losing someone you love where's the remake of the capture that emotions perfectly in the fact in almost feels like the remake as more of a classic than the original which makes no sense for it to feel that way they really dropped the ball on making a good movie with the original but luckily we got the remake
“Ain’t you proud of your old man now?”
I honestly have no clue if the 1979 or this version is better? I know Jackie cooper was way more iconic but the boy in 1979 was a lot younger yet still was amazing.
He suffered so much,hollywood is so dark
I love Jackie Cooper he's an our gang classic 💜💜💕👍I can't find this full movie what happen did he have a heart attack?
Ooh, Jon Voight's a remake... Nice one =)
I feel bad for that kid
Dink Purcell looks distraught when the Champ died
Among my all-time favorites. Early Talkies were real deal ART. Fuck modern Hollywood!
Cool
I should have watch this first before Ricky Schroeder. I wanted to cry and laugh.
I don't know. Usually remakes don't prevail, but in my eyes the remake of this film does. As adorable as jackie cooper is here, I'm not at all taken in by this. Too melodramatic. Not real like Ricky Schroder makes it.
briansky10 yeah but in the end it's still not as acclaimed as the original.
but the 70s version is more remembered.
There seems to be a generational divide.
Actually this was not acting. The director told the kid that if he didnt perform he would shoot his dog. Since the kid never did perform they took the dog out of sight and shot a gun to make him think they shot it. When he says "I want the champ" he is reffering to his dog
@@danbam3411
I see this version mentioned, never even knew there was a remake.
RIP Jackie Coogan
O remake consegue vencer fácil este original de 31 com muita facilidade e só o final do de 79 já é muito superior
Wow is this movie really from 1931? So old. All the actors must be dead?
Jackie Cooper as the little guy was the last of all the cast who died in 2011.
So, yes, everyone is dead.
@@JohanLebbing wow.
I hope this movie comes on HBO Max
am leaning towards the remake being better.
En esa escena le dijeron q habian disparado a su perro por eso lloró tan bien
😢
Only 4 year prior they introduced sound into cinema so it is only normal actors are overly expressive.
The Champ that speaks perfectly just before dying, the two men nodding when they understand he's dead...
Overall good acting but too theatrical, with too extrem mood changes, as was used in those days.
1979 finale is an Oscar winning performance (he did get the Golden Globe though)
Classic
The remake was so much better. I always cry at the end scene. I was laughing at this one...
Do bad things and bad things will target you who gives a shit. This one is obviously a classic.
Hah funny this end part wasn't acting, he was actually crying since he thought he dog was just shot.
Right the remake was alot sadder and better acting...this one sounds like he is throwing a tantrum.kinda funny😂 but still a classic🙌
@@patsnation1278 he is throwing a tantrum. He was basically playing the adult throughout the film but when his dad died, he literally threw a tantrum like a child for the first time in his life. Brilliant.
Who played drinks mother
Urban Legend: A stage hand killed a puppy to get Jackie Cooper to cry for this scene.
No, the director told him his dog had been shot, to make him cry. He cried for hours and had to be sedated eventually. It's in his autobiography.
@@wurstbrat. You're sure that's not the 1979 version?
It wasn't necessary to respond all the consoles
These growup are so dum telling him he gone on a little trip the champ just resting at least in the 1979 one Jackie told T.J he's gone
Yeah you can't sugarcoat this type of thing. It's a really hard thing to tell a child that their parent is gone but it has to be done in a careful sort of manner. I mean kids have to learn about the hard truth about death of a loved one. You begin life by being born but your time eventually comes and you have to say goodbye. It's the hard truth but it's part of life.
2:21
If I was his friend and his dismisses me like he did dude at 3:05 I would've helped him meet the champ....on god
Filmed in Tijuana
So much talking for a ding man
Rickey schroder was better.
This original version is way too cheesy and not believable but then again it was the times and the acting….the 79 version seems way better…this kid is the only one that nailed it here
Not to point the racism in this scene, but you can't help but notice how Jessie Scott was pushed away after his lines. Like, move on.
Huh? Racism? Gtfo. Idiot.
The black-and-white once a classic but this movie is so old that the color one is a classic now and I have to say this performance compared to the colored 1 usually the remakes are not that good but the remake it so much better it makes this performance look like garbage am I the only 1 who thinks this I mean the emotions in this version don't seem as real it seems like he looks like a kid who only had in ball taken away not a kid Who lost someone very close to him where is the color version the emotions were way more real you could fill the kid's pain if anything that should have been the movie that was in black-and-white not this one it's pretty crazy that the original Falls in to the remakes shadow instead of the other way around the remake falling into the originals shadow
The 1979 movie was better. Ricky Schroders was better
Not a useful comment.
Jackie Cooper looks a little like Ricky Schroder, but as an actor....hmmmmmm......well....
I liked him as Perry White though.
Franco Zeffirelli version is too much better and amazing..this is not!""!
jadp1979 That's why it won academy awards right? Nope. the remake is all right but this one is the true classic. You can still feel the emotion and sadness behind it.
Keep in mind this was 1931.
Daniel Medina I understand...but the boy in Zeffirelli version makes me cry and I feel so moving...I don´t feel the same with this kid
jadp1979 yeah everyone knows that for sure haha. This was 1931 so don't be surprised it's different. Still a better movie though.
it may be better, but damn this one doesn't do the final scene justice like the remake does. The remake was even said as the saddest scene in cinema according to psychological tests.
Memorex996 Yeah I know it's crazy to see how far as them using it in experiments.
Overacting much?
They couldn’t get the kid to cry, so they took his dog a shot him behind the set, then forced him to do the lines. Then after, they showed they didn’t actually shoot the dog.
@@lucasmadariaga9889 i saw the tiktok too that's why i'm here 💀
Not very convincing the remake is way better.
Funniest scene ever.
this one is no way near as sad ad jon voyeds virsion 1979 one gets me evry time i watch it no effence this film has shit actors