I've given up coffee for good now. Being Italian I grew up drinking espresso. Decades later even one espresso made me feel wired and affected my sleep. I'm much more chilled out now I'm coffee free. Hopefully my sleep will improve over time
In all Dr Tim’s interviews, I appreciate that he speaks to the quality and nuances of each study & adds some background on what is yet to be studied/ verified 👌
My mother's breakfast was Coffee. I am an Ethiopian who loves to used Coffee.My mother took her Coffee as a breakfast and She is healthier than others. Its advantage is its stimulation and increases your attentions ! Our mothers know how to roasting Coffee and they know it in its colors .
She's healthy bot because of the coffee but because she would eat less frequently. Coffee suppressed appetite and if consumed without sugar, would put a person in autophagy. Your mother would be even much healthier if she just skip the coffee and fast normally.
Coffee beans are from the carribbean that the one i use too as a child we roast an beat in a murta the shift the brew for tea some people mill it aswell
I am glad my country put a restriction on selling energy drinks to only those over 12 (should have been 14) because there is much more caffeine in those than a more expensive Coke. I shake my head at those young adults downing an energy drink as they puff on their vape.
As someone who grew up in the Caribbean, coffee was an everyday drink even as a child. My parents would roast there own coffee as the trees grew locally and roast the seeds. after they had theirs we the children were given a weaker version to drink. We would even help in the roasting process as kids by sucking on the sweet juicy pulps around the seeds before they were roasted. Growing up we did not make anything of it and up to this day it is still grown locally on the Island. Funny though, I guess it's me, but coffee does not keep me awake at all whatsoever. I could drink a litre now and fall asleep in the next 10 minutes lol. Great information Sirs
I started repairing coffee machines nearly 50 years ago and I started drinking at least 4 cups of ground coffee made from a 4 head leaver type coffee machine. Now I’m 83 years old and still drinking double shots from my Italian machine and if I missed my 7 PM coffee when I get back home I will make a coffee before I go to bed around 9 pm and I have no problem going to sleep in fact I sleep very very we’ll waking at 6 AM that’s been going on for all these years. My doctor can’t believe how well I am with no 83 years pain like other men. I live in Australia. Cheers Doug Mazonowicz.
Great, but someone with the same exact consumption probably has died at 35. I am not saying coffee is either good or bad just that one persons experience means nothing. Anecdotal experience is great but it is not statistically relevant. You cannot extrapolate to entire populations and it is impossible to determine causality and isolate from hundreds of factors.
This is a little surreal for me - I spent the lockdown advocating Tim as a trusted source of Covid info whilst binge watching James' videos on coffee to distract me... never thought I'd be watching them in a double bill on the same video 🙂
I would like to thank you for the content shared and for the incredible work that is being done. I'm Brazilian, I'm 37 years old and I've been drinking coffee since I was 6 or 7 years old, many children of my generation grew up consuming coffee. However, nowadays this is not common, my stepdaughter for example is 13 years old and does not consume coffee or soft drinks. I love having coffee in the morning or before going to the gym, in addition to enjoying the ritual that involves preparing the drink, I feel focused and in a good mood.
In Finland we got law that every worker that have 8 hours of work, should have two 12,5 minute 'kahvitauko' wich means literally coffee break. Of course we got morning coffee and coffee after each main food so it is common to drink coffee 5 times a day and typical coffee cup is 1-2 dl. Casual coffees like after sauna coffee or going to city is add to that. Commonly we first make one pan of coffee for quests and visitors so they can take few cups if they will and only after that we ask "do you wan't more?". I got expresso cups but they are for little kids. I think Finland must be good place to research issue of "coffee/caffine and health". Finnish coffee culture is also worth looking - it goes trough society. After a giving birth you got coffee and it is important part of funerals also.
I find that hard to believe. How do you get the fiber from the drink? We only consume the flavour (and effects) of coffee, not the actual bean. I'd like to see the studies of this.
@@MisterDibitybopty Because some fibre is water soluble. So it dissolves in the water, and then you drink it. I think pectin is another form of water soluble fibre. Not all fibre is "roughage," or insoluble fibre. 😁
A really great discussion! In the dark ages when I thought coffee was Nescafe, drinking it black was was a foul experience. Therefore, coffee had to be drunk with milk. Fast forward to my late 50s and I discovered high quality arabica beans, which, consumed black was an entirely different - and wonderful - experience. I discovered, in the light roast, such a complex symphony of flavours. I do remember that on opening a new jar of instant coffee that the smell was wonderful, and the taste a comparative let down. Now I have discovered coffee which tastes like it smells. Subscribed! BUT...which of you British guys spelled 'fibre' as 'fiber'? Hmm....?
Very informative and easy to listen to. And good to emphasise that we all need to monitor our own responses to coffee - which I love, but only mid/late morning. It's not one size fits all. Thanks very much for such clear explanations
Thoroughly enjoyed this insight into coffee. A real education, I thought an hour was going to be too long, but ended up going back to listen to the facts again. Thank you
Yes, Coffee is additive for many people. A person that drinks coffee every day when you are without it, you can get really bad headaches from caffeine loss, also you have issues with restless legs and anxiety until you consume your regular amount. It is not the same as drug addiction; but does affect you addictively
Not me at all. I have stopped drinking coffee abruptly... Never have I felt the need to grab it immediately or never have I felt my body not functioning without it. No headaches no craving... Nope. And I am a regular early morning black coffee drinker. Remember its the mindset not the food that needs to be in check.
Nice video. Had a healthy dose of fiber and a borderline dose of caffeine while listening to James and Tim. Quite a relief that Tim approves coffee, otherwise I would have had to find a way to stop trusting him
I like Renato's sense of humor. Almost stopped coffee this morning and substituted pushups, because I've been feeling old and thought maybe coffee was the reason. Watched the vid as reality check and decided my 80 years probably accounted for feeling old, so brewed a cup and feel - fine.
That's not only funny it is an accurate description of the way people evaluate heath information...jt Joey Tranchina, outreach worker & trainer of public health outreach workers former Executive Director of AIDS Prevention Action Network (20+ years) former CEO Hepatitis C Global Foundation
I just finished my 4th cup (32 oz) of coffee today, while watching this video. I usually french-press 4 cups (32 oz) each morning and drink that through lunch (but I don't eat breakfast or lunch, usually, each day). Since I only eat OMAD, I like that drinking coffee puts something on my stomach and kind of gives me that eating sensation. I've lately been interested in understanding the polyphenol aspect of coffee. The low-carb world (which I'm a part of ) seems to be pretty evenly split on the questions of whether coffee is good or bad for you. Just last week, I asked my GP about coffee consumption. She asked how much coffee I drank each day, and I replied four 8-oz cups; she responded, "That's too much. You need to cut back to one or two." I'm learning today that as long as I stay below 6 cups per day, I'm good. You're my new heros!!! Heck, maybe, I'll make another two cups of coffee, to get up to my new limit of 6 cups/day. :-)
I gave up all Caffeine because its terrible for the adrenal glands. I drink water when i wake up and i eat more fruit during the day. I've never felt better high energy, sleep amazingly just to name a few from a huge list of improvements. Edited to add I no longer have daily anxiety which I had experienced my whole life and more recently started getting low moods completely gone.
In the beginning of my coffee drinking experience (30-40 years of age) I couldn't have coffee without milk because of the bitter flavors. It wasn't until recently that I tried very fresh roasted, lighter roasted specialty grade coffees. The flavors of those coffees are so wonderful to me, that I very much prefer them without any type of additives. Kudos to excellent coffee roasters around the world, making people's lives just that little more enjoyable. 😀 👍
@@Ciguatera Each person is welcome to their opinion, and I used to share the same one as you. It wasn't until I realized that it was the overcooked and old coffee that tastes bad and isn't very healthy, that I thought maybe I was viewing things through a dimly colored lens.
I really like the quickfire questions format of these videos. It helps me remember the salient summary points before diving deeper into the more thorough explanations.
During the perk coffee era, it would be normal to add salt. Salt somehow reduced the bitterness of coffee according the going theory. I have tried salt in coffee and it works quite well, even filtered coffee if you had the misfortune of purchasing a brand/type of coffee which is bitter can be smoothed out with salt added.
@@armadillito I was also taught that caffeine strength is also determined by how long it is in contact with water. So espresso has less caffeine due to the short time pushed through the beans, however the old perk over the fire cowboy coffee is stronger since it takes so long to warm up and perk.
I'm Indonesian and coffee is widely consumed by us usually at night in here. For me, I drink two to five cups of arabica coffee here and I don't have any problem with sleep at all. I don't know whether my body metabolizes caffeine that fast or it's just my body get used to the caffeine in the coffee. I still got my 6-8 hour sleep and my blood pressure is normal (110~120/70~80) . So, It doesn't hinder my activity much, sometimes I drink it just for the taste of it (yes, arabica bean has a lot of notes flavor post-sipping or drinking). My favorite is Natural process and Honey, kinda like the fruity notes and that hints of acidity followed by pleasant after-taste that lasted in your mouth for several minutes~ Ah~~~ gonna brew one now.
What a really informative and and fascinating discussion. As a Decaff drinker I think I'm going to move back to non-decaff in search of new flavours/tastes, as caffine has never been a problem for me - I just thought decaff was better turns out its all personal preference and tolerance to caffine.
Wow! A fantastic summary far beyond just the health status of coffee thanks to two brilliant experts who are skilled at organizing their words off the cuff. Great job! Too bad you didn't talk about the very bad health effects of refined sugar added to coffee - so common in North America.
Is Coffee healthy? No. Because it cuts off people's natural response system. When you are tired, your body sends a signal to your brain, and you rest or sleep. Coffee hijacks the signal, and your brain doesn't get the signal, therefore you keeps going. Anyone has basic sense knows it is crazy to do that. I quit coffee 5 years ago, and I feel much healthier.
Super interesting episode. Coffee is great. Not much more is needed to be said, to be honest. Stress reduction from experiencing the scent of freshly ground coffee every morning is a benefit good enough that diminishes all potential drawbacks :)
Every person is unique and responds differently, as the scientist says. We can listen to our own body to work out if coffee is ok and in what quantity.
KAFFA region in Ethiopia is home to Coffee arabica, where coffee trees are found in the wild in tropical forests. The low altitude variety Robusta is also found in Harar region in the East of Ethiopia. The Ethiopian coffee tastes better than coffee from other countries. The soil type and it's organic management makes the difference. Coffee is the main export of Ethiopia. Currently Ardent coffee is doing good job in the community in Southern Ethiopia. Dr. Mesfin Amaha my colleague has researched and found coffee berry disease resistant varieties involving the wild varieties I mentioned above. The rest next.
Although I had known most of what you covered about coffee, it was still a pleasure listening to my favourite subject dissected by 2 experts! My favourite version of coffee is a variation of Turkish coffee which I make myself in a special pot on a hob and drink black with no sugar. A real treat! May I add that James has a very soothing voice!
I am Ethiopian, grew up drinking coffee(since three years old). It was ceremonial and blessing of the day started by cup of coffee. The day rounds up by another coffee, didn’t matter when it was, sometimes at midnight, and went to bed . It didn’t bothered any body at all. Coffee doesn’t bother if you are regular drinker. If you stay away from it, and come back to it, that is when it bothers.
Enjoyed the discussion and shared it with more than ten friends some are still working in coffee business, some studied and discovered CBD resistant varieties. Very well presented, I like the main title as well " Science and Nutrition". I am Dr. Eshetu Wondimagegne, Projects Coordinator for the Norfolk African Community Association Organic Allotments Project in Norwich UK. Strength 4 arabica coffee one cup in the morning with ground Cinamon and clove but black is my favourite, Ethiopia grows both Arabica and Robusta varieties. Good Health to all of you.
Having James in this conversation introduced me to this podcast, I love his youtube videos, this was a great listen, thanks for the amazing information! I'll sub for sure!
Sub and share! Its a shame that only 300,000 people have watched at this point. I was amazed to hear that a cup of coffee has more fiber that a glass of orange juice.
The part i was most intrigued by is 45:18. I've always felt like my bowl was stimulated from the moment i even smell the coffee as i grind it. Id love to learn more about how and why that happens. I often find my self (on my days off) running to the bathroom as my coffee cools.
I read that a goat herder noticed he’s goats nibbling on the berries on a bush’ that after eating the berries the goats started skipping about and being frisky. So he tried them and the rest is history 🤩🙏❤️🙏
I am new to ZOE and would like to say I have thoroughly enjoyed watching your videos and have learned a lot of what I suspected is true. Thank you and continue the good work.
Apparently there are up to 4 methods to decaffeinate coffee The Swiss Water decaf is a chemical-free decaf coffee that retains most of coffee's precious flavor and potent antioxidants, making it the healthiest decaffeinated coffee on the market. The lack of chemicals compared to the other popular methods also makes it a more earth-friendly option.
Turkish coffee is the best to me! I’m not Turkish but have been drinking it since I started to drink coffee (my parents made it the Turkish way, which still amazes me - why Lviv in Western Ukraine would make their coffee the Turkish way). And for me it definitely helps to that “digestive reaction” James and Tim were talking about. I am in a really bad mood if my morning routine was broken and I didn’t have my quiet time with 1 or 2 cups of my Turkish coffee. And I even travel with my coffee maker (and ground coffee since it has to be ground really finely) OR search for Turkish restaurants. The second best alternative is macchiato- as Tim says. Very interesting talk, thank you! Had no clue that coffee has fiber!
Of course I love coffee (55 years old) . I tried reducing my coffee consumption because of sleep issues. My new regiment , One regular coffee per day followed by decaffeinated for the rest of the day. I’m so happy decaffeinated coffee is tasting so good these days ! By watching UA-cam videos I’ve learned that the decaffeination process has been made safer now as well.
I was brought up in equatorial Africa and from a very early age I drank several cups of tea daily and as I got older, coffee. Water wasn’t drinkable unless it was boiled so it was a good way to rehydrate. Years later I was planning a pregnancy and decided to stop drinking so much coffee. Oh my goodness, I was so ill , vomiting and dizzy. The come down from the caffeine and coffee made me so ill ! Never again! Now I’ve got a Nespresso Vertuo machine. The pods declare how many mg of caffiene are in them so I can moderate my intake. Three cups, two before I can start my day (about 250 mg) and one stronger one at about 4 pm. In contrast, my son, who has attention deficit disorder and finds the stimulation of strong coffee calms him it’s surely better than amphetamines, which is all that medical science can offer. At nearly 55 I’ll be drinking coffee, black and strong, for the rest of my life.
I never drink coffee beyond 12pm, but from 7am to 12pm I drink 4to5 cups 2 of which are black coffee. I do think it is habbit forming but not a dangerous habbit as Tim said. I've found this discussion extremely helpful and interesting. I personally don't get palpations. But my sister who drinks decaff tea suffers alot with palpations and has made me wonder if this is why. Great informative conversation
@@judylloyd7901 Wow your correcting my spelling. This is a discussion about coffee ☕ NOT spelling or grammar. Seriously grow up Judy Lloyd. Have you never heard of a spelling mistake or predictive text. Shame on you for being so small minded to point something so trivial out, with the objective to embarrass another person. Did it make you feel omnipotent?
@@alysonhall5409 thank you! Its really a disgusting distraction and contributes nothing and wastes out brain power. Kind of the the journalist fact checkers.
You three work so well as presenters I think I would enjoy you three talking about biomechanical engineering just as much. But I hope you will do this again at some point. I know people look to the past & claim it was a golden age of television. That back at the start of TV people would give lecturers on philosophy etc, but I disagree. TV is just getting better & better over time because of the increased specialisation & the ease at which great conversations can be documented. At one time this would be a fun Conversation at a University in Central London seen by a hundred people or so. Now that it's recorded & I get to see it, in a bedroom in Oxford as I drink my last coffee if the night (I have ADHD I use amphetamine as way to chill down & focus) so for me Coffee is a wondrous bedtime drink! Hot, delicious & a great way to drink my magnesium, potassium & sodium chloride for the day. But it could be also being watched in a different right now (hi if your our there, hope you have a great life) by someone interested in the history of coffee 200 years after we are all dead, buried & recycled by the soil.
Fascinating. Two takeaways for me. Coffee is high in fibre, and coffee is not a diuretic. It's great to know that my favourite beverage is good for me.
I was interested and pleased to hear that the addition of milk to coffee does not lessen or interfere with the health benefits of coffee, because I have heard that the protein in milk binds with the polyphenols in coffee and stops them from being absorbed. Could anyone clarify that one way or the other.
As someone that goes to the gym and swims laps regularly. I thing having a coffee makes us think we are going to work better so then we do and not because of the caffeine itself. Realistically a good night sleep and hydration the day before is more noticeable in a workout.
I am studying lifestyle medicine at graduate level. During one of our assignments a year ago, we needed to choose some dietary change. I chose to give up coffee because i was having nocturia and it was disturbing my sleep. It took me several weeks to go through the detox of caffeine, i had severe headaches and tremors. Fast forward to the end of this year i have just completed the Complete Health Improvement Program （CHIP） and come to the realisation that the REASON coffee was affecting me was because i was not drinking enough clear fluids. Through CHIP I bumped that up from 600-800 mls a day to 2000 mls a day and all the symptoms of too much caffeine disappeared. My sleep is good, my nerves even and i can enjoy a coffee in the morning no problems PROVIDING I keep my liquids up to 2000mls a day.
I am South Indian close to Chikmagalore Sakleshpur coffee native of Karnataka. Started drinking Coffee from Malnad Region at the age of Two and going strong now as of Sixty Five years. Have had Arabica, with Chicory, Black coffee in Filter. So far Tasted Nescafe Sunrise Continental Annapurna Coffee day Bayar Suma etc. Day begin with a cup of tongue lingering hot coffee and end with tongue smothering cold coffee every day. Coffee I love it for next past births.
I use coffee therapeutically. I use a certified mold & mycotoxin free brand. I make a jar of coffee with a pinch of sea salt, and only take 3 tablespoons per day from it. It makes me feel motivated, relaxed, suppresses appetite (useful when stress makes one want to binge etc).
I had to give up drinking coffee at a fairly young age due to getting heart palpitations although I did not drink a lot & was mostly a tea drinker. I then used decaffeinated coffee just a few mugs a day but still mostly tea. Then suddenly after many, many years for some unknown reason I went completely off coffee although I have loads of packets of decaf granulated coffee refill packs in my cupboard. All I have fancied at home is tea for about 4 years. Why I don't know. If going out somewhere I would then sometimes have a coffee unless very thirsty.
High blood pressure and metabolic disorder here. Doctor says to drink up to 20oz. a day black. Actually recommends it. It helps me with my ADHD by allowing me to focus.
Loved this podcast, as with the rest of the series. Thank you to the whole Zoe team for providing such an engaging and informative resource. I was really interested in the information regarding the fibre content of coffee, and am keen to share that information but I have been unable to find a source to support it, can you tell me where this information has come from? Many thanks
It was great to have experts from different fields on a topic near and dear to my heart and my lips. I was also relieved to find out from Tim that milk doesn't stop you getting coffee's health benefits as I'm partial to it in my coffee. That said, I'm also starting to try better coffees and, as James suggested, they just taste better and don't need milk to be delicious. Thanks for an enjoyable and informative show.
I think coffee could be bad for the brain. My mom has been active her whole life, always read but I can see she is getting some kind of dementia or brain disease because you have a conversation and she'll be bringing up the same thing 5 minutes later. She use to to drink 2-4 cups a day. I also have problems with coffee, it makes me feel quite lethargic and I am quite forgetful myself. I've been drinking it for many years. Of course, my experiences of coffee doesn't represent the whole population but I think there needs to be better studies on coffee. It is essentially a drug that makes you feel alert and good, so that has to do some kind of damage in the long-term. Also, caffeine has a half life of 6 hours (so half of the caffeine is still in your system after 6 hours) so if you have it after midday, you will probably have less quality sleep which can cause a lot of problems to the body.
Very surprised you didn't discuss the relationship between coffee and acid reflux / heartburn. That's something I would have been interested to know more about and something that could potentially have a huge health impact for those who suffer from it...
This is one of those highly personal edge cases. Best thing to do is try it and see. Personally I find sticking to the higher quality lighter roasts, drinking it black, and never in the afternoon is fine. But instant coffee with milk is a bad time.
Yes .Millions around the world suffer with GERD. For them the advice from medical fraternity is dont drink coffee as it will increase acidity. What is the coffee experts opinion or research on that Important aspect where millions are deprived the pleasure of coffee drink.
I used to drink up to 5 cups instant 3n1 coffee mixes while working in a corporate. But in 2015, my doctor advised me to stop drinking coffee because I have GERD. Hard headed as I am, I still keep drinking coffee but 1 mug brewed coffee Barako from Batangas, Philippines.
I consume two cup of coffe a day without. No sugar . drink early morning. Add jaggery for sweatness. Ginger black pepper cardemen and little natural leafs.
Thank you for saying this. Every time he referred to espresso with an X in it I cringed a little. I also didn't like the way they talked to James. James Hoffman is an expert, he isn't an aficionado. The cutsiness and condescension were difficult to listen to.
@@ianallardyce4222 I found the guy hosting, the moderator, to be condescending. I don't know if it's because I have not seen him before but he kept making these little digs at James. It wasn't only the aficionado comment, he treated James as though he were some kind of cutesy fan of coffee rather than a professional who has spent years gaining his expertise. I know James Hoffman doesn't need me to defend him, but I had that impulse.
Used to make me cringe too, I would think "Grrr! Expresso is just the brand name of a software tool for constructing regular expressions!" Then I went to Italy. And France. Not sure why we changed it for English. Now it sounds fine to me either way.
In a short sense, I enjoyed the panelists, James Hoffman, Professor Tim Spector, and the host, for their incite into the wonderful world of coffee and what aspects of it we enjoy most of all. Speaking of too much milk or processed creamer in your coffee, I have found that I may as well be lactose intolerant to some small degree. I take antidepressants along with diabetic medication as a need for good mind and body health along with too much creamer in my coffee. The additives for coffee seem to block the medications benefits, and in doing so, have caused considerable weight gain. I understand that there may be some reason why the additives, such as milk, sugar, and other processed combinations cause your "gut" to block important enzymes as a digestive process, and this is a health issue to me. I have since then, quit using creamers in my coffee drinking it black, as they say, and found that I am loosing the 150 pounds that I have gained in the process. In conclusion, the information herein has enlightened my understanding of coffee as more of a health drink. I will also go further by reducing my caffeine intake by experimenting with decaffeinated coffee for decreasing my caffeine intake, and in doing so, continue my weight loss success. Thanks again to all for this presentation. Good luck and good health to you all.
We live in Brisbane Australia have a coffee tree in our back yard. It produces a lot of fruit. Last year we collected the berries, left them for 3 days to ferment, peeled them, dried them, removed the white crust, dried them again. Then divided them into 3 groups, and ran them through the air fryer for differing times based on Internet recommendations, we threw away the longest run - too burnt, we recooked the short cook batch (didn’t smell cooked enough). We were left with a handful of beans. We ground them, then tried to use them. I’ve had better tasting dish water. Clearly there is an art to roasting. But for us, for the amount of work and the unpredictable result, it’s probably just not worth it….
I love adding cinnamon and or allspice to my coffee pot. We tried adding to the coffee and that was ok, but i think its better in the pot or the cup itself. I love the quick questions and the summary
I too add cinnamon to my coffee grounds before making the coffee in my coffee maker. I also add green tea to the coffee also. Utilizing the dried leaves. leave
I buy sealed bags of coffee beans labeled as from coffee growing areas with my fingers crossed. I grind the roasted beans I purchase and boil the ground beans. I pour the boiling water through a fine screen without any paper filters. I let it cool and then pour it into 2 liter glass pitchers and store in the refrigerator. I avoid adding any milk to my coffee but I sure do use 40% to 100% cream, about 2 tablespoons to a liter.
I speak too fast, too much and I'm restless after a 2-3 cups of coffee, over time I can't sleep, can't put a thoughts together..Moreover I developed rosacea so as Dr Tim mentioned not good for everyone ;) I'm around 40 yrd started enjoy coffee in my teens. Still love taste and smell.
In the past, I used to drink a morning cup of Joe named Coffee that would sometimes give me heart palpitations as a side effect of the caffeine to my heart and bloodstream. So I did the following recipe in my later comment to share with your followers. The talking point is all your coffee MUST BE ORGANIC throughout your life for sure.
I have to drink decaf, even in the morning, as otherwise I stay awake all night and my heartbeat gets messed up. Yet I can drink any amount of strong leaf tea, even late in the evening, without any such effects. And in tea there is lots of caffeine too. A friend who is a professor of pharmacology explained to me that it is not actually the caffeine in coffee that has the bad effects on people like me but rather the combination of the caffeine and some of the thousand other chemical compounds that are in coffee. That would explain why caffeine in tea has no ill effects, i.e. tea doesn't contain those compounds that are in coffee and which act in combination with caffeine. Trouble is, science has not yet discovered which compounds are responsible (or hadn't the last time I discussed it with my pal) -- and maybe there are other factors particular to the individual, such as Tim Spector often talks about. I wonder whether any more is yet known about this. If science could discover which of the thousand or so compounds in coffee combines with the caffeine to produce bad effects on people like me, then maybe those compounds could be removed instead of removing the caffeine and decaf drinkers could have their caffeinated coffee back. That would be a whole new industry.
@@tea.andagoodbook Thanks for that interesting point. I have now read some of the recent studies of L-theanine. Someone should try adding it to coffee instead of removing the caffeine.
Regarding the different ways to brew your coffee and produce your cuppa, it seems off-putting to me that so many methods, particularly drip coffee makers, incorporate a lot of plastic components, which are heated and therefore seem prone to leaching plastic chemicals into your drink. Is this a justified concern?
I use an all metal kettle and a French press, plastic in contact with hot liquids is a big no for me, is it going to kill you? No, but it definitely can affect your hormones and may cause some other problems long term.
I’m sure I’ll get around to viewing this, but right now I’m simply going to respond to the question you ask in the video’s title : Is coffee healthy ? My immediate reply is, I NO LONGER CARE ! This 60-something has witnessed a decades-long YOYO-ing of opinion as to whether coffee/caffeine/green tea is GOOD or BAD for us, and I’m truly over it ! I think the last straw for me taking the studies seriously, was learning (later, by chance) that the findings for green tea having an anti-Cancer effect, were based on drinking TEN CUPS of it per day ! I’ve gone through many phases with both coffee and green tea through the years, and am quite comfortable with where I am now : An occasional consumer of both. No matter WHAT your latest studies say !
We have three coffee plants and once, and once only, we processed all the beans by hand. It is incredibly time consuming but was fun. We ended up with enough for one small cup each but tasted exactly like our usual brand.
I’m not an expert, but I think this might be due to the fact that coffee can cause reflux, so obviously not good for Barrett’s Oesophagus. I love my fresh coffee in the morning, but it gives me bad heartburn. I have a hiatus hernia and have suffered badly fro heartburn all my life. It was only during extensive investigations during my middle age that it was found that I had acid damage to my oesophagus.
Very helpful, I didn't realize there are so many health benefits in coffee. One in particular, that stands out is the fiber content. Besides the incredible taste of coffee, the antioxidants and polyphenols are what really keep coming back.
I’m sat in Ethiopia, in the highlands, drinking the finest Ethiopian coffee, with no sugar or milk, while listening to this great interview.
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That paints an envious picture. I'm sat here in my cold room in Scotland drinking a passable instant coffee.
I've given up coffee for good now. Being Italian I grew up drinking espresso. Decades later even one espresso made me feel wired and affected my sleep. I'm much more chilled out now I'm coffee free. Hopefully my sleep will improve over time
In all Dr Tim’s interviews, I appreciate that he speaks to the quality and nuances of each study & adds some background on what is yet to be studied/ verified 👌
My mother's breakfast was Coffee.
I am an Ethiopian who loves to used Coffee.My mother took her Coffee as a breakfast and She is healthier than others.
Its advantage is its stimulation and increases your attentions !
Our mothers know how to roasting Coffee and they know it in its colors .
She's healthy bot because of the coffee but because she would eat less frequently. Coffee suppressed appetite and if consumed without sugar, would put a person in autophagy.
Your mother would be even much healthier if she just skip the coffee and fast normally.
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Worlds collide. I've followed James and Tim separately for years. Now together on one conversation.
Coffee beans are from the carribbean that the one i use too as a child we roast an beat in a murta the shift the brew for tea some people mill it aswell
It’s funny when people worry about the caffeine in coffee for their kids, but let them consume Coke in an unlimited amount.
I am glad my country put a restriction on selling energy drinks to only those over 12 (should have been 14) because there is much more caffeine in those than a more expensive Coke. I shake my head at those young adults downing an energy drink as they puff on their vape.
@@snuffle2269 what country is that, mate?
@@snuffle2269 so parents buy it children drink it
That's what I say 😂
That's what I say 😂
As someone who grew up in the Caribbean, coffee was an everyday drink even as a child. My parents would roast there own coffee as the trees grew locally and roast the seeds. after they had theirs we the children were given a weaker version to drink. We would even help in the roasting process as kids by sucking on the sweet juicy pulps around the seeds before they were roasted. Growing up we did not make anything of it and up to this day it is still grown locally on the Island. Funny though, I guess it's me, but coffee does not keep me awake at all whatsoever. I could drink a litre now and fall asleep in the next 10 minutes lol. Great information Sirs
Caffeine might not affect you falling asleep but it could be affecting your quality of sleep!
Thanks for painting such a vivid scenario of your early family memories. Quite an enjoyable read.😊
Yeah, sometimes I can't get to sleep without having a cup of coffee. 🤪 As far as quality of sleep, how would you know which is better?
Poor little addict!
@@phil20_20 wear a sleep monitor (Fitbit, whoop etc) to bed and run experiments
I started repairing coffee machines nearly 50 years ago and I started drinking at least 4 cups of ground coffee made from a 4 head leaver type coffee machine. Now I’m 83 years old and still drinking double shots from my Italian machine and if I missed my 7 PM coffee when I get back home I will make a coffee before I go to bed around 9 pm and I have no problem going to sleep in fact I sleep very very we’ll waking at 6 AM that’s been going on for all these years. My doctor can’t believe how well I am with no 83 years pain like other men. I live in Australia. Cheers Doug Mazonowicz.
Excellent news! What works for you works.👍🏻
Likely, if anything, your coffee intake has made a significant contribution to your longevity, and brain function.
it's your genes
Great, but someone with the same exact consumption probably has died at 35. I am not saying coffee is either good or bad just that one persons experience means nothing.
Anecdotal experience is great but it is not statistically relevant. You cannot extrapolate to entire populations and it is impossible to determine causality and isolate from hundreds of factors.
WoW Doug - it's amazing you can do that. Lucky you ! It's obviously having no ill effect on you too. . . Toni from Australia also.
I wish we had footage of James' feed when Tim repeatedly said "eXpresso".
Great video anyway, thanks!
This is a little surreal for me - I spent the lockdown advocating Tim as a trusted source of Covid info whilst binge watching James' videos on coffee to distract me... never thought I'd be watching them in a double bill on the same video 🙂
I would like to thank you for the content shared and for the incredible work that is being done. I'm Brazilian, I'm 37 years old and I've been drinking coffee since I was 6 or 7 years old, many children of my generation grew up consuming coffee. However, nowadays this is not common, my stepdaughter for example is 13 years old and does not consume coffee or soft drinks. I love having coffee in the morning or before going to the gym, in addition to enjoying the ritual that involves preparing the drink, I feel focused and in a good mood.
This is hands down quality content I would seriously pay for to watch. Well done!
These three guys are so engaging and civilised. I enjoy all of these Zoe podcasts but this one is one of the best. Sending love to you all!
Expresso
In Finland we got law that every worker that have 8 hours of work, should have two 12,5 minute 'kahvitauko' wich means literally coffee break. Of course we got morning coffee and coffee after each main food so it is common to drink coffee 5 times a day and typical coffee cup is 1-2 dl. Casual coffees like after sauna coffee or going to city is add to that. Commonly we first make one pan of coffee for quests and visitors so they can take few cups if they will and only after that we ask "do you wan't more?". I got expresso cups but they are for little kids.
I think Finland must be good place to research issue of "coffee/caffine and health". Finnish coffee culture is also worth looking - it goes trough society. After a giving birth you got coffee and it is important part of funerals also.
I loved the conversation! The most SHOCKING thing I’ve learned today is that coffee is a significant source of fiber. 🤯
I find that hard to believe. How do you get the fiber from the drink? We only consume the flavour (and effects) of coffee, not the actual bean. I'd like to see the studies of this.
@@MisterDibitybopty Because some fibre is water soluble. So it dissolves in the water, and then you drink it. I think pectin is another form of water soluble fibre.
Not all fibre is "roughage," or insoluble fibre. 😁
@@judylloyd7901 Thanks Judy. I went google'ing after and read the same thing - TIL haha.
Is fiber needed or even good?
@@nunheadamerican6179 It makes your internet faster. Ok I'm leaving now.
A really great discussion! In the dark ages when I thought coffee was Nescafe, drinking it black was was a foul experience. Therefore, coffee had to be drunk with milk. Fast forward to my late 50s and I discovered high quality arabica beans, which, consumed black was an entirely different - and wonderful - experience. I discovered, in the light roast, such a complex symphony of flavours. I do remember that on opening a new jar of instant coffee that the smell was wonderful, and the taste a comparative let down. Now I have discovered coffee which tastes like it smells. Subscribed! BUT...which of you British guys spelled 'fibre' as 'fiber'? Hmm....?
nescafe azera is brilliant
Fiber is American only, it's not English.
Where do you buy your beans? Are they organic (no chemical pesticides)
@@Bob-jp7vl yes - I like it too 😊
Very informative and easy to listen to. And good to emphasise that we all need to monitor our own responses to coffee - which I love, but only mid/late morning. It's not one size fits all. Thanks very much for such clear explanations
Thoroughly enjoyed this insight into coffee. A real education, I thought an hour was going to be too long, but ended up going back to listen to the facts again. Thank you
Fact is: it tastes bad, is addictive and damages the heart.
Yes, Coffee is additive for many people. A person that drinks coffee every day when you are without it, you can get really bad headaches from caffeine loss, also you have issues with restless legs and anxiety until you consume your regular amount. It is not the same as drug addiction; but does affect you addictively
Thanks, because that's the only thing they didn't really address in the video. I do have those symptoms when I stop
Not me at all. I have stopped drinking coffee abruptly... Never have I felt the need to grab it immediately or never have I felt my body not functioning without it. No headaches no craving... Nope.
And I am a regular early morning black coffee drinker.
Remember its the mindset not the food that needs to be in check.
James Hoffman has this balance of enthusiam and nerding out to coffee, with his soothing voice mixed is why I am here!
Nice video. Had a healthy dose of fiber and a borderline dose of caffeine while listening to James and Tim. Quite a relief that Tim approves coffee, otherwise I would have had to find a way to stop trusting him
I like Renato's sense of humor. Almost stopped coffee this morning and substituted pushups, because I've been feeling old and thought maybe coffee was the reason. Watched the vid as reality check and decided my 80 years probably accounted for feeling old, so brewed a cup and feel - fine.
😂😂😂
That's not only funny it is an accurate description of the way people evaluate heath information...jt
Joey Tranchina, outreach worker & trainer of public health outreach workers
former Executive Director of AIDS Prevention Action Network (20+ years)
former CEO Hepatitis C Global Foundation
Lol!!
😂........same here bro
I just finished my 4th cup (32 oz) of coffee today, while watching this video. I usually french-press 4 cups (32 oz) each morning and drink that through lunch (but I don't eat breakfast or lunch, usually, each day). Since I only eat OMAD, I like that drinking coffee puts something on my stomach and kind of gives me that eating sensation. I've lately been interested in understanding the polyphenol aspect of coffee. The low-carb world (which I'm a part of ) seems to be pretty evenly split on the questions of whether coffee is good or bad for you. Just last week, I asked my GP about coffee consumption. She asked how much coffee I drank each day, and I replied four 8-oz cups; she responded, "That's too much. You need to cut back to one or two." I'm learning today that as long as I stay below 6 cups per day, I'm good. You're my new heros!!! Heck, maybe, I'll make another two cups of coffee, to get up to my new limit of 6 cups/day. :-)
I gave up all Caffeine because its terrible for the adrenal glands. I drink water when i wake up and i eat more fruit during the day. I've never felt better high energy, sleep amazingly just to name a few from a huge list of improvements. Edited to add I no longer have daily anxiety which I had experienced my whole life and more recently started getting low moods completely gone.
Thank you for this. I've been watching James Hoffman for a while, but it's great to see an explanation of the basics and the background.
What’s good about coffee is it makes you feel better😉
So do cigarettes for some people.
In the beginning of my coffee drinking experience (30-40 years of age) I couldn't have coffee without milk because of the bitter flavors. It wasn't until recently that I tried very fresh roasted, lighter roasted specialty grade coffees. The flavors of those coffees are so wonderful to me, that I very much prefer them without any type of additives.
Kudos to excellent coffee roasters around the world, making people's lives just that little more enjoyable. 😀 👍
Welcome to the unhealthy addict's world.
Coffee tastes disgusting and is addictive. Coffee should not be consumed.
@@Ciguatera Each person is welcome to their opinion, and I used to share the same one as you.
It wasn't until I realized that it was the overcooked and old coffee that tastes bad and isn't very healthy, that I thought maybe I was viewing things through a dimly colored lens.
@@GoTellJesusSaves caffeine is the stuff that's unhealthy. Old coffee tastes just nasty and fresh coffee doesn't taste much better.
Thank you for sharing this....I was reluctant to try without milk and sugar ...but now I will try your way with light roast and no additives.
@@melenelewis2955 try tea!
I really like the quickfire questions format of these videos. It helps me remember the salient summary points before diving deeper into the more thorough explanations.
During the perk coffee era, it would be normal to add salt. Salt somehow reduced the bitterness of coffee according the going theory. I have tried salt in coffee and it works quite well, even filtered coffee if you had the misfortune of purchasing a brand/type of coffee which is bitter can be smoothed out with salt added.
I think James has tested and discussed that on his channel.
@@armadillito I was also taught that caffeine strength is also determined by how long it is in contact with water. So espresso has less caffeine due to the short time pushed through the beans, however the old perk over the fire cowboy coffee is stronger since it takes so long to warm up and perk.
Thank you for I drink the commercial ground coffee black when I'm fasting and its so bitter. I'm going to try this.
@@ricknicholson5894 i have heard the same about brew time for tea.
I'm Indonesian and coffee is widely consumed by us usually at night in here. For me, I drink two to five cups of arabica coffee here and I don't have any problem with sleep at all. I don't know whether my body metabolizes caffeine that fast or it's just my body get used to the caffeine in the coffee. I still got my 6-8 hour sleep and my blood pressure is normal (110~120/70~80) . So, It doesn't hinder my activity much, sometimes I drink it just for the taste of it (yes, arabica bean has a lot of notes flavor post-sipping or drinking). My favorite is Natural process and Honey, kinda like the fruity notes and that hints of acidity followed by pleasant after-taste that lasted in your mouth for several minutes~ Ah~~~ gonna brew one now.
What a really informative and and fascinating discussion. As a Decaff drinker I think I'm going to move back to non-decaff in search of new flavours/tastes, as caffine has never been a problem for me - I just thought decaff was better turns out its all personal preference and tolerance to caffine.
Caffeine*
Wow! A fantastic summary far beyond just the health status of coffee thanks to two brilliant experts who are skilled at organizing their words off the cuff. Great job! Too bad you didn't talk about the very bad health effects of refined sugar added to coffee - so common in North America.
Yes too bad
Is Coffee healthy? No. Because it cuts off people's natural response system. When you are tired, your body sends a signal to your brain, and you rest or sleep. Coffee hijacks the signal, and your brain doesn't get the signal, therefore you keeps going. Anyone has basic sense knows it is crazy to do that. I quit coffee 5 years ago, and I feel much healthier.
I have heard from some health care advisors that cafe without sugar is good for health.
*Just a Bunch of BLah BLah BLah!!!*
*I Shut it down at 3-Mins.!!!!*
Very interesting, thank you! I would love to hear a similar discussion about tea as I am a tea addict ( but do enjoy one cup of coffee a day)
Super interesting episode.
Coffee is great. Not much more is needed to be said, to be honest. Stress reduction from experiencing the scent of freshly ground coffee every morning is a benefit good enough that diminishes all potential drawbacks :)
Coffee is a medicine not a tea it is good and bad that is my opinion
Thank you. I will be immediately upgrading my morning coffee routine. ☕️
Every person is unique and responds differently, as the scientist says. We can listen to our own body to work out if coffee is ok and in what quantity.
James sitting in front of a poster showing the 6 cultivated varieties of coffee: „Broadly speaking there‘s two varieties.“ :D Made my day!
KAFFA region in Ethiopia is home to Coffee arabica, where coffee trees are found in the wild in tropical forests. The low altitude variety Robusta is also found in Harar region in the East of Ethiopia. The Ethiopian coffee tastes better than coffee from other countries. The soil type and it's organic management makes the difference. Coffee is the main export of Ethiopia. Currently Ardent coffee is doing good job in the community in Southern Ethiopia. Dr. Mesfin Amaha my colleague has researched and found coffee berry disease resistant varieties involving the wild varieties I mentioned above. The rest next.
Although I had known most of what you covered about coffee, it was still a pleasure listening to my favourite subject dissected by 2 experts! My favourite version of coffee is a variation of Turkish coffee which I make myself in a special pot on a hob and drink black with no sugar. A real treat! May I add that James has a very soothing voice!
I am Ethiopian, grew up drinking coffee(since three years old). It was ceremonial and blessing of the day started by cup of coffee. The day rounds up by another coffee, didn’t matter when it was, sometimes at midnight, and went to bed . It didn’t bothered any body at all. Coffee doesn’t bother if you are regular drinker. If you stay away from it, and come back to it, that is when it bothers.
Enjoyed the discussion and shared it with more than ten friends some are still working in coffee business, some studied and discovered CBD resistant varieties. Very well presented, I like the main title as well " Science and Nutrition". I am Dr. Eshetu Wondimagegne, Projects Coordinator for the Norfolk African Community Association Organic Allotments Project in Norwich UK. Strength 4 arabica coffee one cup in the morning with ground Cinamon and clove but black is my favourite, Ethiopia grows both Arabica and Robusta varieties. Good Health to all of you.
Having James in this conversation introduced me to this podcast, I love his youtube videos, this was a great listen, thanks for the amazing information! I'll sub for sure!
Sub and share! Its a shame that only 300,000 people have watched at this point. I was amazed to hear that a cup of coffee has more fiber that a glass of orange juice.
The part i was most intrigued by is 45:18. I've always felt like my bowl was stimulated from the moment i even smell the coffee as i grind it. Id love to learn more about how and why that happens. I often find my self (on my days off) running to the bathroom as my coffee cools.
Pavlov's dog scenario. I think the body subconsciously relates the actions to emptying the bowels.
@spajic polisic ok. But dont be repetitive and redundant. Im sure you have more information to contribute.
I grew up drinking coffee as a child and still love it today. My favorite is organic Ethiopian coffee fresh ground with cinnamon and cacao nibs.
I read that a goat herder noticed he’s goats nibbling on the berries on a bush’ that after eating the berries the goats started skipping about and being frisky. So he tried them and the rest is history 🤩🙏❤️🙏
I am new to ZOE and would like to say I have thoroughly enjoyed watching your videos and have learned a lot of what I suspected is true. Thank you and continue the good work.
And please share. ZOE Rocks!
Apparently there are up to 4 methods to decaffeinate coffee
The Swiss Water decaf is a chemical-free decaf coffee that retains most of coffee's precious flavor and potent antioxidants, making it the healthiest decaffeinated coffee on the market. The lack of chemicals compared to the other popular methods also makes it a more earth-friendly option.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the swiss water method uses tons of water, which is very wasteful and cannot be easily reutilised
@@miles611 You are wrong. The caffeine is filtered from the water and the water reused.
@@daniel_moretti That's good to know, thanks for the correction!
Turkish coffee is the best to me! I’m not Turkish but have been drinking it since I started to drink coffee (my parents made it the Turkish way, which still amazes me - why Lviv in Western Ukraine would make their coffee the Turkish way). And for me it definitely helps to that “digestive reaction” James and Tim were talking about. I am in a really bad mood if my morning routine was broken and I didn’t have my quiet time with 1 or 2 cups of my Turkish coffee.
And I even travel with my coffee maker (and ground coffee since it has to be ground really finely) OR search for Turkish restaurants. The second best alternative is macchiato- as Tim says.
Very interesting talk, thank you!
Had no clue that coffee has fiber!
Of course I love coffee (55 years old) . I tried reducing my coffee consumption because of sleep issues. My new regiment , One regular coffee per day followed by decaffeinated for the rest of the day. I’m so happy decaffeinated coffee is tasting so good these days ! By watching UA-cam videos I’ve learned that the decaffeination process has been made safer now as well.
But
I was brought up in equatorial Africa and from a very early age I drank several cups of tea daily and as I got older, coffee. Water wasn’t drinkable unless it was boiled so it was a good way to rehydrate.
Years later I was planning a pregnancy and decided to stop drinking so much coffee. Oh my goodness, I was so ill , vomiting and dizzy. The come down from the caffeine and coffee made me so ill ! Never again!
Now I’ve got a Nespresso Vertuo machine. The pods declare how many mg of caffiene are in them so I can moderate my intake. Three cups, two before I can start my day (about 250 mg) and one stronger one at about 4 pm.
In contrast, my son, who has attention deficit disorder and finds the stimulation of strong coffee calms him it’s surely better than amphetamines, which is all that medical science can offer.
At nearly 55 I’ll be drinking coffee, black and strong, for the rest of my life.
Hey Kate, I also come down really hard from coffee too. I’ve just clocked up 3 weeks without a cup and I’ve been through hell.
I agree, coffee helps hyper children but some parents want the sympathy so ignore the help of coffee, prefer medsthat totally knock them out
I never drink coffee beyond 12pm, but from 7am to 12pm I drink 4to5 cups 2 of which are black coffee. I do think it is habbit forming but not a dangerous habbit as Tim said. I've found this discussion extremely helpful and interesting. I personally don't get palpations. But my sister who drinks decaff tea suffers alot with palpations and has made me wonder if this is why. Great informative conversation
Habit* a lot*
@@judylloyd7901 Wow your correcting my spelling. This is a discussion about coffee ☕ NOT spelling or grammar. Seriously grow up Judy Lloyd. Have you never heard of a spelling mistake or predictive text. Shame on you for being so small minded to point something so trivial out, with the objective to embarrass another person. Did it make you feel omnipotent?
@@alysonhall5409 thank you! Its really a disgusting distraction and contributes nothing and wastes out brain power. Kind of the the journalist fact checkers.
I believe it’s hobbit forming .. but then I have lowered my respiradal dose recently 😂
@@alysonhall5409 you’re ffs .. rather than watching these podcasts try learning some basic syntax
Admiration for Him for saying his previous research was rubbish. 6:05 We can all be wrong but in finding truth admitting our mistakes is trust worthy.
Thanks be to God .... something I love to drink that isn't bad for me and now I can up my fiber intake too
Coffee is the best drink in the world in every aspect. Nothing compares.
I quite agree, and the safest. You can't do better than a good cup of coffee.
You three work so well as presenters I think I would enjoy you three talking about biomechanical engineering just as much.
But I hope you will do this again at some point.
I know people look to the past & claim it was a golden age of television. That back at the start of TV people would give lecturers on philosophy etc, but I disagree. TV is just getting better & better over time because of the increased specialisation & the ease at which great conversations can be documented.
At one time this would be a fun Conversation at a University in Central London seen by a hundred people or so.
Now that it's recorded & I get to see it, in a bedroom in Oxford as I drink my last coffee if the night (I have ADHD I use amphetamine as way to chill down & focus) so for me Coffee is a wondrous bedtime drink! Hot, delicious & a great way to drink my magnesium, potassium & sodium chloride for the day.
But it could be also being watched in a different right now (hi if your our there, hope you have a great life) by someone interested in the history of coffee 200 years after we are all dead, buried & recycled by the soil.
Fascinating. Two takeaways for me. Coffee is high in fibre, and coffee is not a diuretic. It's great to know that my favourite beverage is good for me.
Don't forget the benefit to gut bacteria!
I beg to differ. Incontinence nurses tell patients to stop drinking it as it irritates the bladder.
I was interested and pleased to hear that the addition of milk to coffee does not lessen or interfere with the health benefits of coffee, because I have heard that the protein in milk binds with the polyphenols in coffee and stops them from being absorbed. Could anyone clarify that one way or the other.
Two of my most highly regarded experts in one video, excellent! Time for a Lac Duong
So glad you enjoyed it!
I cured my sons asthma with coffee when he was 7 years old
As someone that goes to the gym and swims laps regularly. I thing having a coffee makes us think we are going to work better so then we do and not because of the caffeine itself. Realistically a good night sleep and hydration the day before is more noticeable in a workout.
I am studying lifestyle medicine at graduate level. During one of our assignments a year ago, we needed to choose some dietary change. I chose to give up coffee because i was having nocturia and it was disturbing my sleep. It took me several weeks to go through the detox of caffeine, i had severe headaches and tremors. Fast forward to the end of this year i have just completed the Complete Health Improvement Program （CHIP） and come to the realisation that the REASON coffee was affecting me was because i was not drinking enough clear fluids. Through CHIP I bumped that up from 600-800 mls a day to 2000 mls a day and all the symptoms of too much caffeine disappeared. My sleep is good, my nerves even and i can enjoy a coffee in the morning no problems PROVIDING I keep my liquids up to 2000mls a day.
Drinking fresh ground, mokka pot decaf, using James's method, as I watch. Great video guys, cheers ☕️👍
Agree. Interesting vlog on coffee drinking that stimulated the discussion.
Wonderful! Enjoy ☕
His mocha pot method, or his drinking method? ;)
*schlurrp!*
This was very informative and easy to watch - thank you!
I am South Indian close to Chikmagalore Sakleshpur coffee native of Karnataka. Started drinking Coffee from Malnad Region at the age of Two and going strong now as of Sixty Five years. Have had Arabica, with Chicory, Black coffee in Filter. So far Tasted Nescafe Sunrise Continental Annapurna Coffee day Bayar Suma etc. Day begin with a cup of tongue lingering hot coffee and end with tongue smothering cold coffee every day. Coffee I love it for next past births.
I use coffee therapeutically. I use a certified mold & mycotoxin free brand. I make a jar of coffee with a pinch of sea salt, and only take 3 tablespoons per day from it. It makes me feel motivated, relaxed, suppresses appetite (useful when stress makes one want to binge etc).
I had to give up drinking coffee at a fairly young age due to getting heart palpitations although I did not drink a lot & was mostly a tea drinker. I then used decaffeinated coffee just a few mugs a day but still mostly tea. Then suddenly after many, many years for some unknown reason I went completely off coffee although I have loads of packets of decaf granulated coffee refill packs in my cupboard. All I have fancied at home is tea for about 4 years. Why I don't know. If going out somewhere I would then sometimes have a coffee unless very thirsty.
If youever get to florence you will want to try coffee there.
Great collaboration, both James and Tim also have some great literature on this subject and more :) Many of which I own, great reads :)
Good info! Thanks so much.
High blood pressure and metabolic disorder here. Doctor says to drink up to 20oz. a day black. Actually recommends it. It helps me with my ADHD by allowing me to focus.
Every "eXpresso" must've hurt James.
Scrolled a long way for this, coming as a JH subscriber.
Keep drinking coffee if you want too!
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He probably wants to eXcape.
Just kidding I got a lot out of this presentation.
Loved this podcast, as with the rest of the series. Thank you to the whole Zoe team for providing such an engaging and informative resource. I was really interested in the information regarding the fibre content of coffee, and am keen to share that information but I have been unable to find a source to support it, can you tell me where this information has come from? Many thanks
It was great to have experts from different fields on a topic near and dear to my heart and my lips. I was also relieved to find out from Tim that milk doesn't stop you getting coffee's health benefits as I'm partial to it in my coffee. That said, I'm also starting to try better coffees and, as James suggested, they just taste better and don't need milk to be delicious. Thanks for an enjoyable and informative show.
COFFEE DOESN'T AFFECT MY SLEEP,,I JUST LOVE IT BECAUSE I WAS BROUGHT UP DRINKING COFFEE...JUST LOVE IT
I think coffee could be bad for the brain. My mom has been active her whole life, always read but I can see she is getting some kind of dementia or brain disease because you have a conversation and she'll be bringing up the same thing 5 minutes later. She use to to drink 2-4 cups a day. I also have problems with coffee, it makes me feel quite lethargic and I am quite forgetful myself. I've been drinking it for many years. Of course, my experiences of coffee doesn't represent the whole population but I think there needs to be better studies on coffee. It is essentially a drug that makes you feel alert and good, so that has to do some kind of damage in the long-term. Also, caffeine has a half life of 6 hours (so half of the caffeine is still in your system after 6 hours) so if you have it after midday, you will probably have less quality sleep which can cause a lot of problems to the body.
There are a lot of published studies that suggest it probably prevents cognitive decline and Alzheimer's.
I take both coffee and tea. Coffee only in the am. And somedays i skip the coffee. I have to stop tea at 6 and am going to sleep a little after 10.
Very surprised you didn't discuss the relationship between coffee and acid reflux / heartburn. That's something I would have been interested to know more about and something that could potentially have a huge health impact for those who suffer from it...
This is one of those highly personal edge cases. Best thing to do is try it and see.
Personally I find sticking to the higher quality lighter roasts, drinking it black, and never in the afternoon is fine. But instant coffee with milk is a bad time.
I think it should be avoided
Yes .Millions around the world suffer with GERD. For them the advice from medical fraternity is dont drink coffee as it will increase acidity. What is the coffee experts opinion or research on that Important aspect where millions are deprived the pleasure of coffee drink.
@@jmarj1038 try putting a bit of cinnamon on your coffee it works for me.
I got rid of 50yrs of GERD when I cut the carbs in my diet
Since I gave up coffee I have improved my health drastically and everyone I know who has done so has also improved their health.
Did you give up black coffee?
Or coffee with milk and sugar?
Instant or freshly roasted/ground?
Wow I have been following both since the pandemic. Really nice surprise to see the combo!
Glad to hear it! Hope you enjoyed the episode :)
Wonderful podcast, I really enjoyed it.
I used to drink up to 5 cups instant 3n1 coffee mixes while working in a corporate. But in 2015, my doctor advised me to stop drinking coffee because I have GERD. Hard headed as I am, I still keep drinking coffee but 1 mug brewed coffee Barako from Batangas, Philippines.
I consume two cup of coffe a day without. No sugar . drink early morning. Add jaggery for sweatness. Ginger black pepper cardemen and little natural leafs.
Really informative and helpful blog for all coffee drinkers, and doubters, thank you for doing this :))
Great chat. But Tim... there is no 'X' in Espresso. 🙂
Thank you for saying this. Every time he referred to espresso with an X in it I cringed a little. I also didn't like the way they talked to James. James Hoffman is an expert, he isn't an aficionado. The cutsiness and condescension were difficult to listen to.
@@Kyarrix there's a funny Mitchell and Webb sketch where a guy shoots his colleague for saying Expresso. Lol
@@ianallardyce4222 I found the guy hosting, the moderator, to be condescending. I don't know if it's because I have not seen him before but he kept making these little digs at James. It wasn't only the aficionado comment, he treated James as though he were some kind of cutesy fan of coffee rather than a professional who has spent years gaining his expertise. I know James Hoffman doesn't need me to defend him, but I had that impulse.
@@Kyarrix agreed.
Used to make me cringe too, I would think "Grrr! Expresso is just the brand name of a software tool for constructing regular expressions!"
Then I went to Italy. And France. Not sure why we changed it for English. Now it sounds fine to me either way.
In a short sense, I enjoyed the panelists, James Hoffman, Professor Tim Spector, and the host, for their incite into the wonderful world of coffee and what aspects of it we enjoy most of all. Speaking of too much milk or processed creamer in your coffee, I have found that I may as well be lactose intolerant to some small degree. I take antidepressants along with diabetic medication as a need for good mind and body health along with too much creamer in my coffee. The additives for coffee seem to block the medications benefits, and in doing so, have caused considerable weight gain. I understand that there may be some reason why the additives, such as milk, sugar, and other processed combinations cause your "gut" to block important enzymes as a digestive process, and this is a health issue to me. I have since then, quit using creamers in my coffee drinking it black, as they say, and found that I am loosing the 150 pounds that I have gained in the process. In conclusion, the information herein has enlightened my understanding of coffee as more of a health drink. I will also go further by reducing my caffeine intake by experimenting with decaffeinated coffee for decreasing my caffeine intake, and in doing so, continue my weight loss success. Thanks again to all for this presentation. Good luck and good health to you all.
We live in Brisbane Australia have a coffee tree in our back yard. It produces a lot of fruit. Last year we collected the berries, left them for 3 days to ferment, peeled them, dried them, removed the white crust, dried them again. Then divided them into 3 groups, and ran them through the air fryer for differing times based on Internet recommendations, we threw away the longest run - too burnt, we recooked the short cook batch (didn’t smell cooked enough). We were left with a handful of beans. We ground them, then tried to use them. I’ve had better tasting dish water. Clearly there is an art to roasting. But for us, for the amount of work and the unpredictable result, it’s probably just not worth it….
I love adding cinnamon and or allspice to my coffee pot. We tried adding to the coffee and that was ok, but i think its better in the pot or the cup itself.
I love the quick questions and the summary
I too add cinnamon to my coffee grounds before making the coffee in my coffee maker. I also add green tea to the coffee also. Utilizing the dried leaves. leave
@@ingerboredickson1533 Green tea is so healthy. What an idea to add it to the grounds. Question is would the Old Man taste it?
I buy sealed bags of coffee beans labeled as from coffee growing areas with my fingers crossed. I grind the roasted beans I purchase and boil the ground beans. I pour the boiling water through a fine screen without any paper filters. I let it cool and then pour it into 2 liter glass pitchers and store in the refrigerator. I avoid adding any milk to my coffee but I sure do use 40% to 100% cream, about 2 tablespoons to a liter.
Watching this while sat on the loo, after just having had an aeropress, listening to James and Tim talk about the laxative effects of coffee.
Wonderful. We need lots of videos like this on diet topics. There is too much misinformation on diet out there.
Italians are experts on coffee. 😊
Conclusion: coffee is healthy and fine, both regular or decaf. No limits to drink it.
I speak too fast, too much and I'm restless after a 2-3 cups of coffee, over time I can't sleep, can't put a thoughts together..Moreover I developed rosacea so as Dr Tim mentioned not good for everyone ;) I'm around 40 yrd started enjoy coffee in my teens. Still love taste and smell.
I liked the answer that yes, coffee is healthy. Off to make another cup.
In the past, I used to drink a morning cup of Joe named Coffee that would sometimes give me heart palpitations as a side effect of the caffeine to my heart and bloodstream. So I did the following recipe in my later comment to share with your followers. The talking point is all your coffee MUST BE ORGANIC throughout your life for sure.
I have to drink decaf, even in the morning, as otherwise I stay awake all night and my heartbeat gets messed up. Yet I can drink any amount of strong leaf tea, even late in the evening, without any such effects. And in tea there is lots of caffeine too. A friend who is a professor of pharmacology explained to me that it is not actually the caffeine in coffee that has the bad effects on people like me but rather the combination of the caffeine and some of the thousand other chemical compounds that are in coffee. That would explain why caffeine in tea has no ill effects, i.e. tea doesn't contain those compounds that are in coffee and which act in combination with caffeine. Trouble is, science has not yet discovered which compounds are responsible (or hadn't the last time I discussed it with my pal) -- and maybe there are other factors particular to the individual, such as Tim Spector often talks about. I wonder whether any more is yet known about this. If science could discover which of the thousand or so compounds in coffee combines with the caffeine to produce bad effects on people like me, then maybe those compounds could be removed instead of removing the caffeine and decaf drinkers could have their caffeinated coffee back. That would be a whole new industry.
Interesting, me and you seem to share the same effects from coffee
So you are saying caffeine is not a stimulant abd decaf is. Fraud.
I did not say decaf is a stimulant, nor did I say caffeine is not a stimulant. Can you read?
Tea contain theanine, which mitigates the effects of caffeine by slowing and smoothing the caffeine spike.
@@tea.andagoodbook Thanks for that interesting point. I have now read some of the recent studies of L-theanine. Someone should try adding it to coffee instead of removing the caffeine.
James Hoffman is delightful to listen to. !
I need a cup of tea after watching this.... can you do an episode on tea in the future?
Green tea next please.
Regarding the different ways to brew your coffee and produce your cuppa, it seems off-putting to me that so many methods, particularly drip coffee makers, incorporate a lot of plastic components, which are heated and therefore seem prone to leaching plastic chemicals into your drink. Is this a justified concern?
Same. I trust iron/steel.
Yes. I use a ceramic filter and also have an all steel/brass espresso machine
I use an all metal kettle and a French press, plastic in contact with hot liquids is a big no for me, is it going to kill you? No, but it definitely can affect your hormones and may cause some other problems long term.
I’m sure I’ll get around to viewing this, but right now I’m simply going to respond to the question you ask in the video’s title : Is coffee healthy ? My immediate reply is, I NO LONGER CARE ! This 60-something has witnessed a decades-long YOYO-ing of opinion as to whether coffee/caffeine/green tea is GOOD or BAD for us, and I’m truly over it ! I think the last straw for me taking the studies seriously, was learning (later, by chance) that the findings for green tea having an anti-Cancer effect, were based on drinking TEN CUPS of it per day !
I’ve gone through many phases with both coffee and green tea through the years, and am quite comfortable with where I am now : An occasional consumer of both. No matter WHAT your latest studies say !
We have three coffee plants and once, and once only, we processed all the beans by hand. It is incredibly time consuming but was fun. We ended up with enough for one small cup each but tasted exactly like our usual brand.
Two of my gurus! (One for coffee the other for health.)
I use a little bit coffee for headache from time to time. It helps..🌍
Coffee is one of the things that is often recommended to avoid if you have Barrett's Oesophagus... Why is this?
I’m not an expert, but I think this might be due to the fact that coffee can cause reflux, so obviously not good for Barrett’s Oesophagus. I love my fresh coffee in the morning, but it gives me bad heartburn. I have a hiatus hernia and have suffered badly fro heartburn all my life. It was only during extensive investigations during my middle age that it was found that I had acid damage to my oesophagus.
Very helpful, I didn't realize there are so many health benefits in coffee. One in particular, that stands out is the fiber content. Besides the incredible taste of coffee, the antioxidants and polyphenols are what really keep coming back.