You did such an amazing job of communicating your experience. ❤ I completely agree with you about the gaps of the program. It's a great start for many people, but is not the "end all be all" for nervous system healing. I also appreciated that you said we all have different needs at different points in our journeys. The DNRS program is more of a "one size fits all" approach rather than an adaptable one. For me DNRS was the quickest progress I'd seen with my health, but I do wonder if it would have been that way if I had started it at my worst. I think the timing for me after doing 8 months of carnivore was really important (as I had already seen so much healing). I also encountered a point where I was hit with a wall of trauma and didn't know how to proceed. Thankfully I was able to incorporate outside resources to support. So I agree that trauma work is something that is a huge gap with DNRS. I'm so proud of you for sharing this, I know it must not have been easy! You've been through so much and it makes me so happy to see you continue to heal. You are glowing! ☀
Thank you so much ♥️♥️♥️ I really appreciate your encouragement and also you sharing you're experience as well. Anyone else reading or watching this feel free to share you're thoughts and experiences too!
I wanted to comment because I can tell you have healed a lot and your health has improved a lot just by this video. I remember watching your older videos, you can just tell by how you look and speak that you are getting better. I’m so glad and it gives me hope for myself im not as bad off as you were during your worst but I’m the worst I’ve ever been I’m recliner or bed bound most of the time no matter what I do it isn’t enough but your improvement gives me a lot of hope so I just wanted to let you know you gave me some hope thank you.
Thank you so much for leaving this comment, it is really encouraging to me!! It hurts my heart to hear where you are at the moment because I can relate, I hope you see healing too, don't give up hope and keep hanging in there!
I think it's really important to address the fact that sometimes you can't heal because the underlying cause hasn't actually been addressed, and simply trying to re-wire the brain, cannot heal every situation. In the case of, for example, tethered cord, you are still having spinal cord trauma unless you address the actual physical caudal traction. I had a very fatty filum terminale and it had caused a lot of injury to my spinal cord. I actually have a syrinx in my neck from the spinal cord traction. And if I had not actually had that traction released, no other forms of mental training would have gotten me out of that situation. Now, I still have ways to go with my healing, and of course hope that brain retraining and somatic excercises will help my healing mindset, but I know that in these circumstances it takes other types of treatment and therapies to help us get there. I still have PTSD and trauma to work through and I think there will always be that underlying fear of health declining again, despite treatment. I definitely think it's really important to address the trauma, and not to ignore it. I do think we should allow ourselves to recognize our human emotions and learn to overcome them. Healing is such a roller-coaster.
I always found avoiding trauma in any mindbody program is a big red flag. Sarno is one of the OGs of this work and he encouraged people to journal about EVERY trauma in their life until they process it then the pain and symptoms will heal.
Yes I agree, I don't think we can process what we avoid, and infact I believe it just shows up somewhere else if we avoid it, it demands to be processed in some way
I am so glad you found it relatable, I hope this video encourages other people. Thanks for leaving a comment, because I wasn't sure about sharing it :)
That will come in more details soon - sorry for the delay. The thigns that have helped the most are animal based nutrition, prolotherapy, endometriosis excission surgery, LDN and ketitofen (medication), trauma and emotional work :)
@ thank you. I’ve tried most medications and have reacted to them so that’s why I’m trying to figure out someone to work with or how to recover. Thank you 😊
-Thanks so much for sharing this! i feel like I only ever see “It’s amazing and cured me” videos so it’s nice to see a video like this. -I have severe ME/CFS and have never tried DNRS because the “don’t talk about symptoms” seems like denial and lack of radical acceptance, which seems ike it would be really harmful for my mental health? I have the exact same feelings about my medical trauma, and I feel like it would be impossible to regulate my nervous system without addressing the trauma. Other than the graded activity, what was it from the program that helped you in the beginning, especially with your sensory sensitivities? - If you could recommend something for someone who was as sick as you were as a teen, what would you recommend? -If you try Primal Trust, please share how it goes!!! :) I'm wondering if it has these same cons? From what I’ve heard about DNRS, I think it would be harmful for me, but I am interested in doing something structured to get my body into parasympathethic (I don't think I have the capacity to do a program like Primal Trust rn without getting PEM). -If you ever wanted to do a video, I’d love to hear about somatic practices and other nervous system regulation tools that you’ve found helpful!! :)
Exactly what happened to me. I didn’t do DNRS I did the lightning process. It led to a severe crash I never recovered from and severely harmed my mental health. In Harry Potter, harry calls Voldemort by its name because he isn’t scared. You must radically accept & confront the pain head on. I cannot emphasise how much this program harmed me. To anyone reading: your symptoms are valid. Toxic positivity won’t help. Gaslighting won’t help. There are people living with severe symptoms daily AND they are not in any way less than 💜💜💜 hugs to all
What concerns me about the DNRS programme is it taps into the Type A personality, because of the amount of work that needs to be done each and every day. That it can become a stress in itself to get all the 5 pillars done every day and if we don't manage that, we feel like a failure. Because as Type A's we are perfectionists and over work ourselves. There are some days where all 5 pillars can't be achieved or we simply don't want to do them, especially women with our hormonal cycles. We will naturally be more motivated some weeks of the month, others we simply want a break and rest from it all. How do these people on the DNRS commit and do their practice without fail every single day? I certainly can't.
I haven't yet started Primal Trust, I am looking to in the near future, but from looking at it and from speaking to people who have done both DNRS and PT, I would say its a MUCH more comprehensive program and incorporated both top down and bottom up approaches where as DNRS is purely just cognitive or "top down" :)
It's improved an incredible amount and improving more and more all the time, I still have a way to go though but it's the best it's been in 10 years :)
You did such an amazing job of communicating your experience. ❤ I completely agree with you about the gaps of the program. It's a great start for many people, but is not the "end all be all" for nervous system healing. I also appreciated that you said we all have different needs at different points in our journeys. The DNRS program is more of a "one size fits all" approach rather than an adaptable one.
For me DNRS was the quickest progress I'd seen with my health, but I do wonder if it would have been that way if I had started it at my worst. I think the timing for me after doing 8 months of carnivore was really important (as I had already seen so much healing). I also encountered a point where I was hit with a wall of trauma and didn't know how to proceed. Thankfully I was able to incorporate outside resources to support. So I agree that trauma work is something that is a huge gap with DNRS.
I'm so proud of you for sharing this, I know it must not have been easy! You've been through so much and it makes me so happy to see you continue to heal. You are glowing! ☀
Thank you so much ♥️♥️♥️ I really appreciate your encouragement and also you sharing you're experience as well. Anyone else reading or watching this feel free to share you're thoughts and experiences too!
I wanted to comment because I can tell you have healed a lot and your health has improved a lot just by this video. I remember watching your older videos, you can just tell by how you look and speak that you are getting better. I’m so glad and it gives me hope for myself im not as bad off as you were during your worst but I’m the worst I’ve ever been I’m recliner or bed bound most of the time no matter what I do it isn’t enough but your improvement gives me a lot of hope so I just wanted to let you know you gave me some hope thank you.
Thank you so much for leaving this comment, it is really encouraging to me!! It hurts my heart to hear where you are at the moment because I can relate, I hope you see healing too, don't give up hope and keep hanging in there!
I think it's really important to address the fact that sometimes you can't heal because the underlying cause hasn't actually been addressed, and simply trying to re-wire the brain, cannot heal every situation. In the case of, for example, tethered cord, you are still having spinal cord trauma unless you address the actual physical caudal traction. I had a very fatty filum terminale and it had caused a lot of injury to my spinal cord. I actually have a syrinx in my neck from the spinal cord traction. And if I had not actually had that traction released, no other forms of mental training would have gotten me out of that situation. Now, I still have ways to go with my healing, and of course hope that brain retraining and somatic excercises will help my healing mindset, but I know that in these circumstances it takes other types of treatment and therapies to help us get there. I still have PTSD and trauma to work through and I think there will always be that underlying fear of health declining again, despite treatment. I definitely think it's really important to address the trauma, and not to ignore it. I do think we should allow ourselves to recognize our human emotions and learn to overcome them. Healing is such a roller-coaster.
Thank You for sharing this!! It spoke to me on so many levels and helped release frustration and guilt that DNRS didn’t “fix” me.
I am so glad!!!
I always found avoiding trauma in any mindbody program is a big red flag. Sarno is one of the OGs of this work and he encouraged people to journal about EVERY trauma in their life until they process it then the pain and symptoms will heal.
Yes I agree, I don't think we can process what we avoid, and infact I believe it just shows up somewhere else if we avoid it, it demands to be processed in some way
Could you give me an example of how you process trauma? Ive heard people talk about it, but never heard an example...
Amazing video & very insightful. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Your courage and hard work is much appreciated 💛
Thank you so much! I realyl appreciate that!
Thank you for sharing your experience!
@@incurablyawesome2024 ❤️
amazing video thank you super helpful, I agree they make you feel its the ONLY way. you are on point with the gaps in the program
@@BrightGreen-k4k thanks so much for your encouragement 🎉
Thank you so much for sharing your experience, I found it really relatable. ❤
I am so glad you found it relatable, I hope this video encourages other people. Thanks for leaving a comment, because I wasn't sure about sharing it :)
Can you please share what you did to recover? Like doctors or programs? Thank you.
That will come in more details soon - sorry for the delay. The thigns that have helped the most are animal based nutrition, prolotherapy, endometriosis excission surgery, LDN and ketitofen (medication), trauma and emotional work :)
@ thank you. I’ve tried most medications and have reacted to them so that’s why I’m trying to figure out someone to work with or how to recover. Thank you 😊
You’r right Mel, for me it was good too, to add Tools of somatic practices 🌷☀️
I'm so glad it helped you at add tools of somatic practices, they're so helpful :)
-Thanks so much for sharing this! i feel like I only ever see “It’s amazing and cured me” videos so it’s nice to see a video like this.
-I have severe ME/CFS and have never tried DNRS because the “don’t talk about symptoms” seems like denial and lack of radical acceptance, which seems ike it would be really harmful for my mental health? I have the exact same feelings about my medical trauma, and I feel like it would be impossible to regulate my nervous system without addressing the trauma. Other than the graded activity, what was it from the program that helped you in the beginning, especially with your sensory sensitivities?
- If you could recommend something for someone who was as sick as you were as a teen, what would you recommend?
-If you try Primal Trust, please share how it goes!!! :) I'm wondering if it has these same cons? From what I’ve heard about DNRS, I think it would be harmful for me, but I am interested in doing something structured to get my body into parasympathethic (I don't think I have the capacity to do a program like Primal Trust rn without getting PEM).
-If you ever wanted to do a video, I’d love to hear about somatic practices and other nervous system regulation tools that you’ve found helpful!! :)
check out @sarahjacksoncoaching on IG or youtube, she has some resources that are very gentle and a good place to start :)
Exactly what happened to me. I didn’t do DNRS I did the lightning process. It led to a severe crash I never recovered from and severely harmed my mental health. In Harry Potter, harry calls Voldemort by its name because he isn’t scared. You must radically accept & confront the pain head on. I cannot emphasise how much this program harmed me.
To anyone reading: your symptoms are valid. Toxic positivity won’t help. Gaslighting won’t help. There are people living with severe symptoms daily AND they are not in any way less than 💜💜💜 hugs to all
@Butterflyintheskywhite maybe we don’t have stuff that works, fake hope isn’t the answer
@Butterflyintheskywhite you can get better for sure but drop things which don’t help
What concerns me about the DNRS programme is it taps into the Type A personality, because of the amount of work that needs to be done each and every day. That it can become a stress in itself to get all the 5 pillars done every day and if we don't manage that, we feel like a failure. Because as Type A's we are perfectionists and over work ourselves. There are some days where all 5 pillars can't be achieved or we simply don't want to do them, especially women with our hormonal cycles. We will naturally be more motivated some weeks of the month, others we simply want a break and rest from it all. How do these people on the DNRS commit and do their practice without fail every single day? I certainly can't.
yes I agree totally. I did do it everyday without fail for 4 years and I don't think that was the best
Sounds good I'm happy you're healing
Thanks so much!
Hey mel just curious... did prolotherapy work for you? And did you get posterior injections or the picl? Also did you do dextrose, prp, or stem?
Currently doing dextrose prolotherapy. More details to come :)
Can i ask your thoughts on primal trust? Do you think its a better option
I haven't yet started Primal Trust, I am looking to in the near future, but from looking at it and from speaking to people who have done both DNRS and PT, I would say its a MUCH more comprehensive program and incorporated both top down and bottom up approaches where as DNRS is purely just cognitive or "top down" :)
Is u remission of pots
POTS has improved a lot and is continuing to improve as of right now I do still struggle with symptoms but I am hopeful they'll continue to improve :)
@@iammellbell i am on Cusack protocol
I had pots year ago for two years symptoms have changed to chronic muscle pain
@@iammellbell how your pots improve
Is your neck now good
It's improved an incredible amount and improving more and more all the time, I still have a way to go though but it's the best it's been in 10 years :)
@@iammellbell r u on Cusack protocol