Stanley #4 - Hand Tool Restoration
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- Опубліковано 23 жов 2021
- One of the main woodworking tools I have been wanting for my home workshop, a proper old school, England made, Stanley Bailey No. 4 Hand Plane. This gem was not in the most beat up condition, but it's storage location and some interesting rust meant this restoration was going to be interesting. It seems to have seen some use but turns out to be a great find.
This restore gave me a chance to get crack out the shellac, do a bit of polishing, and see just why these are some of the best hand planes you can get. - Навчання та стиль
It probably shouldn’t be so pleasing to watch good tools being restored and used again… yet, here we are. I love how you explain all the components and offer a bit of the history of the design. Nicely done!
Wow, thank you! I am having a hard time with my current piece, but encouraging words give me the push to keep going. Thank you 😀
You always do a very informative video and you restorations are sensitive and very precise. This is yet another excellent example!
Thank you very much!
Excellent video, thanks! Very informative, and as someone who finds all those 4x speed UA-cam videos unwatchable, I very much appreciate the care you gave to actual honest-to-goodness video editing.
Glad it was helpful! It is more of a skill I have built when I started the channel, but I think I am getting on top of it.
This is so good! Cool and explaining things in an interesting way!
Glad you think so! Thanks for watching!
Looks like a Stanley Baily type 15, manufactured from 1931 to 1932.
It basically is, but the ones from England were the same style/moulds but made later after the war. That's why the are hard to age.
Very cool. I like learning about the tool as well seeing how it's made and how to restore.
Well done.
Thanks heaps!
Great video! I really enjoyed watching this. The commentary about each part was fantastic and the end result was perfect. Cheers!
Thanks for the feedback!
Hi buddy, i loved this restoration, you did a good job 👏👏👏👍👍👍🤝🙂
Thanks heaps. Anything you would do differently?
I'm a big fan of plane restorations and I liked this one. I would have done many things differently but the end result looks great and works, which are the main things!
I especially love that you re-established a gloss finish on the handles, so many people go on about "keeping things original" and then see no contradiction with slapping on one or two coats of BLO on the wood (which might be nice for feel in their books but looks like crud IMHO).
Thanks for the awesome feedback!
I tried my hand on restoring plane similar to that but it was so brittle and it broke - you did a marvelous job!
Thanks heaps. They are such a handy tool, especially when you can use one instead of sanding. So expensive for a good example though!
@@RestorationEndeavours I agree and also kind of a art piece in its own right I think...
This is perfect. I've been given the same sort of No 4 Stanley plane I want to bring back to useable condition. One side of the baseplate is cracked, so it will need some expertise TLC from a professional engineering place down the road, the handle I've already repaired as it had also broken into to parts (easily glued and clamped). There are plenty of UA-cams with fancy gadgetry I don't have to bring back old tools to pristine condition - but all I want is a solid working tool. Thanks for the tips.
They are just so handy to have, and fairly straight forward with enough elbow grease. The engineering shop should be able to braze it back together and then get them to square it up on a milling machine. Just make sure you find a good machine oil or paste wax for it when it is done!
@@RestorationEndeavours Thanks! I wouldn't have thought about having it squared up. Good idea.
super
Thanks again!
Type 19 on wards
You asked about dating UK-made planes? Unfortunately all the of type studies for the American planes don't apply :-( They start as copies of type 16s and then all bets are off.
The best accumulation of info about this I've seen has been on one of the UK woodworking forums, and scraping up what I remember most of the key details that distinguish age are specific combinations of:
wood, resin or plastic handles
brass or aluminium handle nuts
cast or riveted pressed steel Y-yoke, and if cast whether plated, painted or bare cast iron
frog mounting surfaces on the body casting (split into two in later ones)
the shape of the top of the iron - flat, round or rounded corners
and for the larger sizes, whether they include strengthening ribs or not.
For your plane _assuming no substitute parts_ the painted Y-yoke along with the wood handles, brass nuts and the flat-topped iron point to a later date than you were thinking, possibly late 60s.
BTW two important details about the British planes is that basically they were never japanned, and the handles weren't finished in shellac. UK-made planes (as opposed to UK-assembled) were I believe always painted. As for the handle finish, nobody seems to know if it was lacquer ("cellulosic finish" in the catalogues) or varnish, or whether it started as lacquer and eventually became varnish. Not that it really matters 99% of the time when it has become brittle and cracked LOL
Great info. I found some of these things but not others. It's a shame there isn't better info around like the US planes. Still works a treat, though we have had crazy humidity lately and it's already started to re-rust despite copious oiling.
@@RestorationEndeavours Sorry to hear about the rust returning! I know you can have _really_ high humidity there (I grew up in the sub-tropics so I sympathise, believe me!)
In the UK and Ireland it's always damp so we have to be constantly vigilant about rust prevention. I think you'll find it very useful to try paste wax. Wax always has the edge over oil since you can leave more of it on the surface (without it being slippery or a dust magnet). From my comparisons wax is just better at excluding water vapour than oil anyway, and it being a solid at room temperature is a massive advantage in terms of it staying where you put it.
I have tools that I've restored (many de-rusted in vinegar no less!) 4, 5 and even 6 years ago that I waxed then and haven't added any more protection to since and almost all have stayed completely rust free. The few spots of returning rust I sometimes get I put down to active rust remaining in pits on the surface, and once or twice missed areas when I was applying the wax.
Thanks for the tip. I'll have to look I to some. Sounds like the way to go.
I think your plane is a type 16 manufactured between 1933 and 1941.
It is not a type 15 as mentioned in a previous comment. Look closely at the rear edge of the body to see the raised rib. There is a raised rib at the front as well but it is often difficult to see. It is usually viewable at the edges where the front edge meets the sides.
Yeah I see what you are saying, but it's still hard to tell with the UK made planes. Thanks for the info though!