The Brutal War Behind WoW's Latest Expansion
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
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The Nerubian's wouldn't have settled Azj-Kahet if they weren't driven from their homeland. Today, we tell that story: The War of the Spider, where Nerubians, The Lich King and Yogg-Saron fought for dominance over Northrend.
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I do hope when we go beneath northrend they remember about the giant ass snake creature we saw in gundrak.
Truly, that could be a really cool story.
Yoooo what about the giant snake bones in Desolace
@justinb7494 Yup and another dev added that it was merely there to look cool, nothing else to it.
It's still wild that it was Jesse Cox who asked about it. Friend of the late Total Biscuit (RIP), and fellow UA-camr.
@@NostraDavid2 No ones ever heard of these people.
Nerubians are one of the coolest races in the entirety of Warcraft. I love how despite being essentially creations of the old gods they broke away to follow their own path and build their own civilization. That’s just not something you see often!
our predecessors.
I love that they aren’t just “creepy spider monsters”. I mean they are that too, but also a civilization of great builders and scholars and ancient kings. The survivors are reasonable and cunning enough to side with us against the scourge and you can hear from the quest NPCs just how traumatic the War of the Spider was for them too, not unlike the humans and the high elves.
Anub’arak is still one of my favorite Warcraft characters. A tragic hero to his people, he was eventually killed and raised into undeath. Made a powerful lieutenant under the lich king, he was named traitor king by his people as he now fought against them against his will
and arthas is also a tragic hero to his people.
and neltharion is also a tragic hero to dragonkind before war of the scaleborn and war of the ancients.
@@patrikzotaj4528 arthas did nothing wrong…except for burning the boats maybe
Been playing WoW since Vanilla. I very much enjoyed this lore and its presentation. Well done.
"my might cannot be matched" still sends shivers down my spine.
It would be really nice to meet the friendly Nerubians again atleast during "The Last Titan"
Here is to hoping for the Nerubian player character models being real.
Yeah, I’d love to see them again. The Pits of Narjun area quest chains were too dang cool. I just hope if we really do have a chance to get playable nerubians because of this that they’ll look like they should, instead of being an entirely new and made up version of the nerubians.. Just like how everyone wanted existing playable dragon forms, rather than the Dracthyr.
@@thelittlestgiant I don't think an actual playable Dragon form would have been possible; if they did do that I think it would have looked very stupid and out of place. The Dracthyr are the best you could have probably gotten for a Dragon inspired playable race that actually fits in with all the animations and stuff. Also imagine having a literal playable dragon that can't fly in instances.
As for the Nerubians I don't see any reason as to why these would have similar problems, although I do think it would look kind of stupid as they'd be the only playable race that didn't primarily stand on two legs, so if they ever decided to do it, I think they would have to also add in more playable races that didn't primarily stand on two legs... Naga for one example.
@@shadow_ow2They could’ve done way better than Dracthyr though
@@shadow_ow2To be fair, Dragonkin already existed and would have been fine (although those boys are much too big to do all the flying dracthyr can do)
I remember doing the dungeons in WOTLK and wish I could explore. I can't wait to hang out with the spider people 😊
Ngl i LOVE how yiu changed from clickbait ( what is absolutely fine for me ) to some od the most quality thumbnails i ever saw on yt without any clickbait.
Awesome
I'm not sure where the "full Northrend revamp" is coming from, I took it to mean we were mostly focusing on Storm Peaks, Ulduar, and probably a couple new underground zones
great video bellular! never knew of the history of the nerubians and the old gods in northrend. I knew they both existed but really enjoyed how you explained it! saving this one for future reference!
Azj-Kahet could mirror Suramar.
A splinter faction could join our side especially since the nerubians were the only insect race abandoning the old gods.
yesss
That was great Michael, I never took the time to get into the lore when I quested back in wrath. Love these lore videos
remembering the visuals of Wrath makes me wish for an Nerubian expansion. I know we're getting a zone, but how creepy if we got an expansion where we descended into the spider filled depths and not come back up until the next expansion.But no, we'll get one zone for them, and then a kul tiran zone and whatever else. I'd rather they do one thing and do it well.
The nerubians are one of my favourite races. I actually predicted they would appear in the next expansion roughly a month before BlizzCon, citing the grey item from Zaralek and N'Zoth's whispers when we went back in time as proof. I predicted we would go back to Azjol-Nerub as a patch zone, a theory I felt more solidified by the War of the Scaleborn book that was in the Northrend area, and Iridikron's home of Harrowsdeep. I guess I was mainly right, but split in half in a way. Nerubians would be in the next expansion, but not in Northrend. Then it was confirmed we'd be going back to Northrend for The Last Titan. I wanna meet Seer Ixit and his group again!
yeah we will tell ixit about azj-kahet.
My character and ME. "Spiders... why'd did it have to be spiders?" *all over body shiver*
I am quite convinced that some of the new humanoid void-infused nerubians will become allies and they will assist in repopulating Azjol'Nerub
yeah because neferess refused to aid anub'arak against the scourge and lich king in war of the spider.
yeah because neferess refused to aid anub'arak against the scourge and lich king in war of the spider.
yes because azjol-nerub and azj-kahet are two nerubian empires and kingdoms.
Metzen’s lore never fails to impress! Really glad to see him back on the team
Thanks a lot for the wrap up!
I really like your storytelling. Please do more.
Love these lore videos you guys make! Thank you
Being incredibly ignorant on the lore of WoW, you going in-depth with this material really gets me excited in a special way.
Thanks for what you do!!
Really enjoyed the lore-based story time! Thank you! 😁👍🏻
Michael, love the content man. Lots of quantity, lots of quality. Every week, ton of work for you and your team. Thanks!
I’d say it’s safe to assume Azjol Nerub is going to be an older dungeon guest for M+
i think the nerubians where in azj-kahet sense the troll war when they got split up becouse a npc called kah'eht is form northrend and was sent there for backup but was denied and stuck there sense, and if anub'arak knew about them sense then they must've been a notable kingdom for a long time
A great dive into the lore!
I'm not sure if the nerubians in the war within are going to be the same nerubians that were in northrend. I was under the impression that they'd been there the entire time while the nerubians we know and love fled north before the sundering, because kalimdor was a super massive continent they would not have needed to use tunnels when it would have been faster to travel above ground to flee from the trolls. After the sundering if there were any tunnels they'd likely have been destroyed so its hard to believe they'd still exist for the modern day nerubians to use to head south.
8:43 random floating Draenei on the ceiling.
I hope they really go in depth on this war in this expansion because they barely mentioned it in WOTLK which was disappointing. Would love to see a flashback of Anub'arak leading the armies before he died and what he looked like back then.
"And he arrived using todays sponsor" - Does that confirm a Sargeras return, if the Legion is sponsoring UA-cam Videos?
Gotta get their message out to recruit new followers 🤣
13:07 "Mindlessly faced each other off" I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE DOG. Valid Word play with the two mobs that are fighting there.
With Ner'zul being opposed to the Lich King it would make sense for Yogg'Saron to aid him in his quest to combat the Legion who would seek the death of the Old Gods and their Void Lord masters.
Fantastic storytelling and great video!
16:10 fairly certain he means the frozen throne as it was the expac to wc3 reign of chaos...
im pretty damn sure we'll get playable nerubs in a later patch during TWW
Feels more like a Last Titan thing. We fight them in TWW, Ally with their rebels in Midnight, and then playable in Last Titan.
im worried that its technically impossible to make nerubian playable race
didnt they reveal a very humanoid model for them? @@rm-lv8ex but it might just be wishful thinking, i've always like the nerubs since the warcraft3 days
I don't remember helping any Nerubians with a clutch of eggs, did I miss some quests somewhere?
I do remember the NPC outide of the dungeon entrances of Azjol'nerub and An'Kehet that we did a few quests for. I always wondered why there was no reputation associated with that NPC. I love the nerubians and would have happily helped them out.
They don't need to make a bipedal model for a race. They can easily ignore the hooves, chitinous legs, and slithering bellies. They don't have to balance them for now. Just open it up for people to try, and for roleplayers, it might bring old players, and bring more new blood in.
great video man! ty
War Within will be the year of the Spider gf. Finally
What I don’t get timeline wise, how can the nerubians in the war within live in their capital city build on their old city, build on and older city, built on.. etc. if they just got there after the war of the spider?
Technically, removing the text that says they have been at war with the Arathi for hundreds of years may also mean that the war between the two parties has only recently developed.
OK, it's likely that they couldn't stand each other, but as far as I know, the Arathi already have enough to do with the monsters from the lake to intentionally open a second front now is rather unlikely
If the Nerubians were really survivors of the War of the Spiders, then it would also be very stupid to start a new war so soon afterwards, especially since they could only have had the bare minimum of resources at their disposal and I rather believe that they were split off from those in Northrend a long time ago
This is one of the coolest stories in the lore.
Always love the lore content, thank you!
Looking forward to more.
I thought that was a new skin for Warframe's Khora and I was like, "Wait, War Within doesn't have any Spider themes." Then I saw it was Bellular and was like, "Oh Warcraft."
tyr, odyn and ragnaros auto attacking each other looks so wierd 😅
Warcraft 3's expansion is actually called The Frozen Throne, but I'll give you a pass. Great video buddy! making me excited for the new expansion!
There were also Nerubians in the Island Expeditions right? Did we ever dealt with those?
yeah vorus'arak and his brood.
16:05 you mean Frozen Throne?
Hope Blizz includes some kind of arachnaphobia option for this expansion :/ My fiance has crippling arachnaphobia and I'd hate for her to miss this expansion
Waiting for the forgotten Horde race to finally be relevant again... And playable atlast.
I'm talking about the taunka, who joined during the WOTLK but were for some reason completely forgotten.
The visual design of Azjol Nerub in WotLK was one of the biggest disappointments I've ever had in WoW. It was too bright, too silly with those 2D spiderweb bridges, no sign of the War of the Spider, and felt nothing like ruins of an ancient civilization. And what a way to waste Anub'arak in the shortest 5-man ever.
Story binge lets go!
Nier Ubians are just the survivors of the War of the Spider that fled down and escaped, going deeper and spreading their web away from the surface claimed by Ner’zhul.
Nurubian please join horde
or maybe the arathi have been fighting the original nerubians, not the ones that defected from their masters ?
The Nerubians of Azj-Kahet had to leave the Nerubians of Northrend long before the War of the Spider.
"if it was centuries how did the nerubians get there" the centaur are from kalimdor but theres centaurs in the dragon isles idk man i
Ah yes, Warcraft 3's famous expansion: Wrath of the Lich King
The Nerubian vizier are so simular to Grand Empress Shek'zeer almost same model
It's the same skeleton. Not totally crazy considering they're not too distantly related.
I want Nerzhul to come back into the story somehow and get his revenge fully somehow
and arthas.
I'll be honest. When I saw the name of this video, I figured it was Danuser vs Metzen, not Lore. 🤣
You could say that it is the "War Within" wow's latest expansion
and so ... Nerubian or "drider" fal'dorei ?? (elves/troll spider drider ???)
Does anybody know what track is playing from 4:50 - 5:15?
it's one of the tracks that plays in Icecrown, i know that much
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The description of the war under icecrown citadel reeks of plot armor. Against an empire of thounsands of years comes this new power that lacks its major resources from latter on and it still won.
Damn good video
0:33 these animations 😂
Nerubian allied race confirmed
If only there was no shadowlands expansion
Tbh I think the long-term impact of SL will be good. Not only did it act as a wakeup call to transform WoW & blizz for the better, it gave us some neat stuff for the future.
For instance, Denathrius is an undeniably kickass villain & the SL lore for the Nathrezim fixes the creation of the scourge AND gives us possible fun stories in the future.
Love it! ❤
Great video, but damn you change your pronounciations with every sentence.
Sometimes you say scOrge, the next sentence you say scUrge (correct).
Then you say Azjol-neRUB like you're rubbing your elbow, then you say Azjol-nerUUB (correct).
I'm having flashbacks from the days of WoD when content creators left and right would say DrAYnor, when Metzen himself clearly pronounces it DRAH-nor.
Ew, northrend is getting the cata treatment? I hope we get Taunka and Tuskar allied races...
You actually made me feel a bit sorry for the Nerubians. They got shafted from all sides, including their own. Still hate them but even so...
Why do you hate them?
Spiders...@@2o3ief
This is part of that "peak lore" we're always talking about.
I FUCKING LOVE NERUBIANS WOOO
The trolls did a better job of fighting the aqir than the Night elves. Then we the players did even better, with less people 😂. By a group of elite strike team or “raiders”.
Shadowlands retconned a lot of this lore so it's completely inaccurate.
There was no connection between Yog Saron and Nerzhul as Nerzhul was simply working for the jailor against the void.
The Lich king didn't admire the Ziggurats or the architecture of the nerubians All of that architecture and ziggurats was taken from the shadowlands. It was just coincidence that it's similar to the nerubians. As just two examples.
It's premature to assume a lot of that. We don't know how the Nerubians broke away from Yogg-Saron, but we do know that Void has attacked the Shadowlands before. It's entirely possible that Maldraxxus played a role in the freeing of the Nerubians in revenge for that Void invasion. It would neatly tie together a lot of plot threads.
Wall Jazz :D
I like how you were able to tell the story of the lich king without even mentioning the jailer. Well done! Let make him non canon! Like it was all just a fever dream of Thrall.
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I still think this could be one of the changes that are part of the Seasons of Discovery. I mean the shadowy character we see in the game. With the special armor we get. Which wasnt there in the start. You could even see it as a sort of... Time altering thing. BEcause they Nerubians NEVER were in other places on Azeroth.. Only Northrend. We had the Aqir in Silithus.. We had the Klaxxi in Pandaria.. So where did the nerubians come from.. Int he area between the Kalimdor kontinent southern part.. And Pandaria.. Unless.. Time has changed a bit. A small group of Nerubians that didnt matter in the grand scheme, were told to go south. To the place they are now and build their empire. To build their strenght for one day. And that day is now.. In War Within. As it would make sense. Old gods are KNOWN for manipulating timelines. As we see in the story of how Broxigar came to end up in the past.. 10k years ago past. To the War of the ancients. That isnt an alternate timeline thing. But the real timeline. As we know that Broxigar never came back. But. His monument is on Argus. Meaning that the timeline has changed, even for a tiny bit. Maybe that could also be part of the reason why we had the Dawn of the infinites dungeon. As a sort of trick, to force us and the other bronze dragons to focus on those parts.. And not on what a certain Xalathat was doing. As in going back in time. And giving certain commands to the nerubians. "You will die anyway. So go do this".: They did. And now we have them there in War Within. Where things have changed a bit. In the background.. When nobody noticed. Not even the bronze dragons. And now we get the consequences of a small change in timeline. A new nerubian empire. That has had time and help to grow from a smal group on an expedition to Azjkhahet...And created an empire. Over many evolutions. But we will have to wait and see. Will be interesting to see.
The war whitin
Odyn has been imprisoned by Vyranoth..... something tells me we're gonna pay for that later on.
Michael, why do you have your coat on inside?
he has to hide his 5g vaccine injury from woke soy burgers
Maybe he chiwwy
Maybe he’s cold?
@@JamailvanWestering maybe its a fashion statement
you would not understand.
Dont give a shit. Lmk when I can see the brutality in the game.
Hmm, How do I say this coming from a wow enthusiast? Oh ya here… Yawn!!!
I didn't know people still give a damn about retail.
All your comments are on retail vids asking about people caring about retail 😂
@justinb7494 don't project your anger at me for your game being stagnate dog water.
@@yutyut1020You've made multiple very similar comments about this. There's no projecting here.
The most impressive part of this video is the fact that Blizzard seemingly acknowledged that they screwed up BEFORE it had an impact and they had to dance around it in the future.
I really do want to imagine its Metzen noticing something and telling the writers to smarten up and getting them to fix it.
Lmao
Rofl even