Esports Journalists With The WORST Takes About Conflict Of Interest
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2022
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BIGGEST INFLUENCERS IN THE CSGO SCENE TRY TO UNDERSTAND A COI CHALLENGE (IMPOSSIBLE!!) (FAILED!)
You'd never see so many people making these braindead arguments if the team in question wasn't a prominent North American team. I'm so sick of NA being treated like the Make-A-Wish kid of CS and handled with kid gloves whenever it comes to stuff like this, because it's NA and they apparently deserve separate privileges.
That striker thread is depressingly representative of disagreements in the online era.
"ah well, you just don't see my perspective of being factually wrong, agree to disagree"
beam me up.
Richard's true calling is to sit on the end of a premium rate hotline and give yes or no answers to questions about conflicts of interest.
HLTV has a direct interest in talking the seriousness of conflict of interest down since they like to do it themselves. Technically another conflict of interest 🤣
How does HLTV engage in conflict of interests issues?
Striker just embarrasses himself all the time, I genuinely feel bad for him to be so uneducated and furthermore just ignorant when people try to educate him.
the arrogance is unreal
Can you give me some examples? I don't watch hltv a lot but when I do he doesn't seem bad.
@@MCrelationz watch the video fam
@@lolilyminecraft good idea thanks
Maybe he is just a paid mouth? Let's hope that. Makes him a garbage human beeing but at least not stupid.
I have to admit 18:40 rly caught me off guard. The laugh is just to funny 😅
Being a fan of Party Astronauts I really wanted to see them play Carpe Diem because rivalry and fun haha, but you are right, this never should have been allowed to happen, when you brought up when people said "IBP would never throw" and that guy who wanted to control the scene it kicked me back to reality because I don't want Counter-Strike to be like this and I can see it happening with how little Valve care. I've seen people make fun of you that you were constantly retiring but I'm glad you make videos like these because you are right, if people like RyanAtDust2 and Striker lead the scene and fool people like me who thought "It's just fragadelphia and we all want to see PA play CD in an official" than I guess thats how it all spirals out of control. Thanks for kicking sense into me.
Arguing with idiots really does drain one's sanity when their takes are provably false but they retort with feelings not facts. Good stuff Ricardo
Striker just can't stop exposing himself publically, every single time this stuff happens
i cant believe Ryan of all people tried to dunk on Jason Lake. Thats like Kurt Rambis trying to dunk on Jordan
I was waiting for some coverage from you on this, and you haven't disappointed. Those talent need to hear it, the whole scene needs to hear it.
You can frame it like, if you remove the possibility of conflict of interest, that prevents people from questioning whether you deserve a victory. If you win a tournament legitimately where another team in your org also participated your opponents can still plausibly claim that you cheated. It's the same for employees of a company, you want to remove all possibility of liability, whether that means transferring departments so you don't have direct power over someone you have an out of work relationship with.
Loved the Willie (Grabher) throwback 🤣
Thanks for explaining conflict of interest in your previous video. Up until now I've thought of it as a term specifically for two teams, owned by the same party, facing each other. If I've understood it correctly it simply refers to conflicting or contrasting interests of a single party, which in all honesty makes sense based only on the wording. I guess I just got stuck in thinking of it as a term and not words.
Gosh, how many years have you been trying to explain this to them? How do people still not get it? Especially people whose jobs are to report on this shit?? Baffling. Excellent work as always sir, I'll gladly dive down the rabbit hole again.
I work for a company for which I'm also a customer and I can't even use the company's software to look at my own private account even though I can do so with other people. That's how you avoid conflicts, by making sure you only do what your job requires you to do and avoiding personal connections.
It's frustrating how sometimes I seem to see glimmers of hope for the CS scene getting cleaned up, but every time there's yet another fountain of shit just around the corner.
"2+2 is 4"
"Ye, but what if you do 2 * 100 * 5 / 25 / 100 / 5 * 25 + 2?"
"That's actually still 4, you just blew up the term and confused yourself. Just because you're confused by the thing you made up doesn't mean it's more nuanced than it actually is."
Cdeez nuts had me crying laughing for 20 minutes for fuck sake
More richard always bestest time
I've seen some stupid people in my time but I literally can't imagine how can the concept of a conflict of interest be such a mistery to anybody.
Great vid as always. See you again in 6 months when you inevitably have to explain this again.
24:30. This is really concerning. Once Richard is gone, these people are gonna be our "journalists" and "source of information".
striker not being able to grasp that the org wouldnt have to be in on it for a throw to happen is actually insane. what bubble is he living in... 🤡world
"No relation to Willy" that's a reference and a half
There'll be a "legislative body" to oversee this in the future for eSports.
I could feel my brain melting out of my ears watching the shit take machine work over time on this as a by stander.... God knows what you felt like.
Is there any other topic in the space that not only breeds such a lack of understanding of the term itself, but then allows all the culprits to willingly expose themselves thinking they've gone big brain on the topic?
Most of those hot takers didn't surprise me.....
Didn't you already do a video about this? You did? Please keep talking about it, I like to listen :)
Strikers takes are so arbitrary it makes my brain hurt. He basically states that some orgs should be allowed to have COI “because they will not do something bad and/or act on it”. Amazing, not even considering the org is but one stakeholder in the whole thing. As said the theoretical probability alone is reason enough to mitigate. This is not a hard thing to grasp, it’s common sense. And typically, IF something would happen, it’s the same people that would cry wolf and quickly change their stance.
Something people often miss in these debates is that when a potential conflict of interest exists it may lead to issues even if the people involved have no intention to act unfairly and may in fact not realise that they have. If you’re settling a dispute involving your partner you’re likely to subconsciously lean in favour of your partner without ever noticing you’re doing it and without coming in with any malicious intention and thereby give an unfair verdict despite trying to put aside your bias.
First bit gave me a dementia scare
They refuse to understand because it will validate Big Mean Richie Lew
I don't think Striker even thinks like this. I just think he likes not saying the truth and just says what's gonna help him the most.
EG has two teams no one bats an eye. Davenport university has 3 teams and everyone loses their minds!
Conflict of interest? No, I don't have one of those. I'm not interested in conflict at all!
4:36 big conflict of interest.
its not like the fucking Isthmian League Premier Division would allow a B-team to play in the same league as an A-squad of the same club either. Speaking about "tiers"
Love the callback to Willy Grabber :)
I wonder if the amount of bad takes is because no-one wants to think about their relationship with their favorite youtubers/streamers and the conflict of interest that exists when they promote the latest game or get involved in some crypro currency / gambling sites.
no relation to willy LMAO
Yes
Fuck me... Striker's takes continue to give me aneurysms. Does he genuinely not understand English?
Stupid question but why would a bookie even put a potentially compromised game on their pages? Isn't the whole point of matchfixing to exploit the odds? Meaning the bookie can only lose? What's for them to gain having these matches on?
Bookies never lose, the odds shift with the amounts invested, the money from people not in on the bet is moved to the people in on it and the bookies.
it's pretty known pro players are not the smartest bunch
lmao, they never learn
Maui has had a lot of weird takes throughout his career. He once said on stream he thinks Kevlar is overrated in cs, that people should play without it on force buys
Just getting rid of the bullet punch is worth the force buy.
This has to be an ugly point on snake and banter so we can see how far Maui has gotten with his thought experiment...maybe with Kassad as the guest 😜
So why hasn't Valve said anything? Seems like this is being ignored by all parties involved because the NA scene has been absorbed by Valorant with EG as one of the holdouts.
Sadly the trend of valve not caring about stuff like this going on in their own game's competitive scene continues. Unless player count drops dramatically or they stop making profit (directly/indirectly) from skins, valve will just never care about any of it since they probably adopt the mentality that "the best solution to most problems/controversies is to ignore it until it dies down". I'm not too sure if they do this with their other games but with csgo it certainly seems like the case so far
I'm gonna come clean, damage made us (rasta.) Throw all of our games against rasta.xd back at i37 etc. It had nothing to do with us being shit.
Officially just lost braincells reading those tweets. Anyone down to matchfix some games? As long as it isn't a major or perhaps Katowice/Cologne we should be alright.
This reminds me why I kind of think my generation and below is screwed up. 🙃
Great vid as always, such stupid takes from ppl with such a great platform as HLTV.
Whats with the names? Groomer and Graeber, esports finest, can't be real.
Still baffles my mind, time and time again, that you seem to be the only one (except thorin and maybe a handful of others) that just don't seem to have any sense about shit that is blindingly obvious. I used to love csgo back in 2014/15 but it's just so degraded now it's almost impossible to save. Ive not bet on it in like 3 years cos of you, u can't trust it.
One you spoil something once, u can't really gain that trust back
Ayooooo
already LUL just based on the title and the history of this channel
He’s called Striker because every time he gives his take, your palm with strike your forehead.
No one wants to listen to someone they hate. Even if you're right, which you are, people hate you, so they will dismiss everything you have to say. You need to get over it, mate.
And yet here we all are, listening to him. Weird how that works hmm 🤨
The idea that randoms would hate Richard and still love esports is hilarious. He is one of the most important people to the industry ever.