Everything Wrong With Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald

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  • Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald is straight-up bonkers. And not in a good or fun way. Many, many sins. And a weird Bonus Round!
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  • @SeriusSim
    @SeriusSim 5 років тому +2685

    Biggest sin is claiming you'd somehow need a spell to make London all cloudy and grey, while it's actually the default UK weather.

    • @TheVergile
      @TheVergile 5 років тому +47

      and now you know why

    • @SphincterOfDoom
      @SphincterOfDoom 4 роки тому +13

      Unless he removed it to see the view he liked, and returned it to normal after.

    • @armadillolover99
      @armadillolover99 4 роки тому +7

      TheVergile I already knew why, it’s because of Dementor Breeding (people who read the books will know what I’m talking about)

    • @samuelwilson8070
      @samuelwilson8070 4 роки тому +2

      Should've added 50 sins for needed 30 minutes to explain the movie lore IN THE MOVIE because its way to complex and impossible to follow without watching it 8 times, and its so bad that would be considered mental torture

    • @no1chopperstan
      @no1chopperstan 4 роки тому +2

      samuel wilson lol please don’t ever read a song of ice and fire

  • @bsgfan1
    @bsgfan1 5 років тому +2389

    The problem is that the films’ overarching plot has become muddled. It should have either been strictly about Newt’s adventures or a prequel series about Grindelwald, not both.

    • @Bim2403
      @Bim2403 5 років тому +118

      bsgfan1 yeah I expect more beast taming and stuff but we got this mess instead

    • @serenityfirefly-1873
      @serenityfirefly-1873 5 років тому +140

      It's because they want to have their cake and eat it by keeping Oscar-winning Eddie Redmayne in the lead role, despite the fact he's playing a zoologist with no personal connection to Grindelwald or Dumbledore, other than being his former student.

    • @AC-eu1rx
      @AC-eu1rx 5 років тому +1

      @@Bim2403 Yeah same

    • @SeraphimCramer
      @SeraphimCramer 5 років тому +170

      They should've done Fantastic Beasts as a TV series. Could've had a new beast every episode, & the focus could've been cleanly on Newt rather than shoehorning him in as the main character in a story that's not at all about him.

    • @htgbookworm
      @htgbookworm 5 років тому +51

      It's almost like they only did this for the money...

  • @rustydaboyrobot
    @rustydaboyrobot 5 років тому +5189

    One sin you missed: Mcgonagall showing up before she was born. 😁

    • @Ganychan
      @Ganychan 5 років тому +424

      HUGE SIN. Though in the context of the movies it isn't, because it doesn't contradict any on-screen cannon. The whole Aurelius thing is also bullcrap.

    • @salzkuuu
      @salzkuuu 5 років тому +166

      How did JK okay that? Like she was involved with the script right?

    • @chimeforest
      @chimeforest 5 років тому +471

      @@salzkuuu She wasn't just involved with the script, she wrote it..

    • @malkore2
      @malkore2 5 років тому +54

      The Aurelius thing could be revealed in a later movie as to why Dumbledore doesn't mention him at all.

    • @shekharpandey5246
      @shekharpandey5246 5 років тому +39

      No u are wrong. She had been born. Witches and wizards can live over 200 years.....

  • @4rs0n1sm
    @4rs0n1sm 5 років тому +6035

    You complain about albus sending newt after a powerful wizard like he didnt send an 11 y/o child after another powerful dark wizard

    • @harlihess4942
      @harlihess4942 5 років тому +475

      Long story short, Dumbledore is a dick

    • @SasukeUchiha723
      @SasukeUchiha723 5 років тому +80

      No wonder he has the name Brian...... I knew a brian who's a bigger dick!!

    • @lynneparks9247
      @lynneparks9247 5 років тому +177

      Yeah, and that's why he was tossed out a window by a friend.....

    • @fissilewhistle
      @fissilewhistle 5 років тому +67

      He didn’t “send” eleven year-old Harry after Voldemort, Harry just found him.

    • @MrMikado282
      @MrMikado282 5 років тому +148

      Newt yes, he's a zookeeper that shouldn't be involved in this. Potter unfortunately was born to be a protagonist due to "The Prophecy".

  • @alpergundogdu6729
    @alpergundogdu6729 5 років тому +3745

    Please add 50 sins for the fact that Grindelwald barely commited any crimes in the movie? :DD

    • @hidan407
      @hidan407 5 років тому +76

      Son of a bitch 🤔

    • @DoABarrelRol1l
      @DoABarrelRol1l 5 років тому +179

      I know.
      I was joking with my friends how I’ll count the number of crimes and compared it to the number of fantastic beasts to see which part of the title held more significance. Other than breaking out he committed like nothing.
      Is he even bad?

    • @PigreKo
      @PigreKo 5 років тому +155

      @@DoABarrelRol1l Well is homicide still a crime? Cause he killed a bunch of dudes and duderines; also, he attempted the genocide of Paris, which clearly is not that "legal" I believe.
      But yeah, we could say it is pretty strange to see so many magical beasts, and a movie named Magica BEasts, being mostly about wizard politicking and war. In all honesty, instead of this bullshit of Voldermort bis and his Wizard uber alles, I seriously would have loved a series about exploring and understanding and fighting mythological beasts, dragons, etc. They could even put Nagini in there in a more meaningful way. MEH.

    • @DoABarrelRol1l
      @DoABarrelRol1l 5 років тому +11

      Thats what I was hoping the series would be :-(

    • @steelblue58
      @steelblue58 5 років тому +24

      @@DoABarrelRol1l Gee, I dunno, was Charlie Manson bad? Hitler? Thulsa Doom? They were even more evil because they inspired others to kill for them, bringing in a higher body count than they ever could on their own. And better yet, without getting their hands dirty.

  • @TheCrash480
    @TheCrash480 5 років тому +419

    "I love it when wizards hold wands up to people's heads like it's a goddamn 9mm, those things work long range man!".
    Wands... or 9mms?

    • @Ari19904
      @Ari19904 5 років тому +2

      The Crash wands

    • @godfatherezio
      @godfatherezio 5 років тому +12

      Should have used "knife" instead of "9mm".

    • @jessiemayfield6749
      @jessiemayfield6749 3 роки тому +3

      It was funny tho, I wondered why they were getting so close

    • @kotyissocool
      @kotyissocool 3 роки тому +3

      Well I mean 9mm handguns have a smaller effective range than you’d think. Handguns are close quarters weapons, lots of factors affect a bullet’s trajectory, so even if you have perfect, deadeye aim you can miss if it’s windy or something and you didn’t take that into account

  • @s4m_1223
    @s4m_1223 5 років тому +3751

    This movie in a nutshell (Spoiler)
    Grindelwald: You’re a Dumbledore. Credence.
    Credence: I’m a what?

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 5 років тому +69

      It's a pity that we have to wait the entire movie for that out of left field revelation to come to light!

    • @panthera9151
      @panthera9151 5 років тому +87

      Also: Grindelwald wapes out WW2 from a skull hookah.

    • @Loveskelly-hr
      @Loveskelly-hr 5 років тому +51

      We also realise dumbeldore has the gays for Grindelwald

    • @s4m_1223
      @s4m_1223 5 років тому +53

      @@Loveskelly-hr I swear JK Rowling's starting to mess with Harry Potter lores.

    • @Brontosuchus
      @Brontosuchus 5 років тому +28

      A Dumbledore! But not a thumpin' good one, I'd wager.

  • @Kingdeathtrooper
    @Kingdeathtrooper 5 років тому +2824

    That wasn't him killing a mosquito, that was a magic barrier surrounding him that killed it

    • @Blanklet
      @Blanklet 5 років тому +256

      Yeah this guys stupid sometimes.

    • @tannermoen8675
      @tannermoen8675 5 років тому +85

      It was showinf the spells put around him to keep him in place

    • @ArchNemesis314
      @ArchNemesis314 5 років тому +191

      They straight up lie or omit plot points to make jokes.

    • @Nicholas_Chen_
      @Nicholas_Chen_ 5 років тому +114

      I don’t think these guys are paying much attention to the movie

    • @yeahkeen2905
      @yeahkeen2905 5 років тому +24

      The Pope Nutz that’s exactly the problem here.

  • @RowanArk
    @RowanArk 5 років тому +333

    Nagini and Leta were so much wasted potential. And I thought it would've been much cooler if Credence had been a nobody

    • @wolves600
      @wolves600 4 роки тому +15

      he could be lying to credence

    • @OscarDiaz-os9jf
      @OscarDiaz-os9jf 4 роки тому +6

      Who knows maybe nagini will have a better part in the next movie

    • @Marcel-qb9ge
      @Marcel-qb9ge 4 роки тому +3

      Wolves600Gaming, with how many twists there were it's possible, but it's a terrible idea to end a movie with a fake twist

    • @daphilakadong9914
      @daphilakadong9914 4 роки тому +3

      It's like the Star Wars sequels all over again.

    • @linadesmet3988
      @linadesmet3988 3 роки тому

      maybe newt and theseus have the same protection as harry because someone gave his life to save them.

  • @sweatynerd9030
    @sweatynerd9030 5 років тому +1245

    Dang, you didn’t talk about Queenie basically switching to the dark side at the end of the movie???

    • @Bim2403
      @Bim2403 5 років тому +40

      Sweaty Nerd because that was stupid

    • @3872864
      @3872864 5 років тому +22

      The movie needed a twist. You haters say its freaking boring so it needed some twists duh

    • @jessicapaone1436
      @jessicapaone1436 5 років тому +165

      @@3872864 That's not the problem. It had too many "twists" is the problem. The writers could care less about what happened, and so they just jammed too many unneccessary "twists" into a movie that had no plot. They ignored blatant characteristics of certain characteristics (Queenie), gave Newt an unnecessary assistant that was never mentioned before for no reason, shoved an entirely unnecessary misunderstanding between Newt and Tina before they even developed their relationship to be anything more than "hey I'll hit you up if I'm ever back in New York," and rendered the ending of the first movie completely obsolete (Jacob never lost his memories even though he was shown to have done so at the end of the first movie, Credence never died, and Grindlewald escaped prison six months after being captured). It makes it seem like the entire last movie was useless and it creates so many problems with Harry Potter canon and its timeline and such.

    • @htgbookworm
      @htgbookworm 5 років тому +117

      I feel like Tina and Queenie both turned into these stupider caricatures of themselves in this movie. Tina suddenly is incapable of holding a conversation, and Queenie, who can read minds, falls for the bait that the wizard Nazis will help her marry Jacob? Also Leta's character only exists for Newt to look sad about. The character development here sucks.

    • @Jenizz
      @Jenizz 5 років тому +13

      I actually loved that. It's a natural development tbh. She's not that bright and willing to follow someone so easily if s/he proposes a simple solution to a problem. :D

  • @GuessWho195
    @GuessWho195 5 років тому +413

    You sin Dumbledore for recruiting Newt for this job even though he's under qualified as if Dumbledore didn't task Hagrid with transporting Harry Potter AKA the saviour child AND with the retrieval of the philosopher's stone once they knew it was a target. This is 110% a thing Dumbledore would do.

    • @phineasevilrabbitoak
      @phineasevilrabbitoak 5 років тому +52

      I like to believe Dumbledore had a "Voldemort, plan B" lying around somewhere that relied entirely on the magical abilities of Hagrid, Dudley and Filch.

    • @cris-du5fp
      @cris-du5fp 5 років тому +7

      listen i agreebut dont go sinning hagrid hes pure

    • @SennaHawx
      @SennaHawx 5 років тому +12

      Hagrid is immune to most wizard spells and Dumbledore trusts him without a single shred of doubt.

    • @melodysymphonystar
      @melodysymphonystar 5 років тому +18

      If anything, that was the most in character thing of all the characters in the entire movie.

    • @sw9458
      @sw9458 5 років тому +8

      in the book it was meant to be sirus who was to collect Harry but he didn't want to endanger him so he gave Hagrid his flying bike to collect and deliver harry

  • @caitlynchitwood5005
    @caitlynchitwood5005 5 років тому +733

    The fact that Dumbledore was the Defense Against the Dark Arts professor instead of Transfiguration?

    • @edis9869
      @edis9869 5 років тому +30

      that could be excusable considering how hard it is to find a dark arts prof, so maybe he was switching over

    • @andrewpycke3255
      @andrewpycke3255 5 років тому +148

      Adhish oh
      There wasn’t an issue with filling the post of DATDA teacher until Voldemort came looking for the job years later.

    • @tiffprendergast
      @tiffprendergast 5 років тому +6

      Andrew Pycke yup

    • @Witch_King_Ken
      @Witch_King_Ken 5 років тому +18

      Or maybe because Dumbledore is badass and knows alot of defense against the dark arts spells.... Plus somehow magonagall is in this movie and is the most powerful person in transfiguration beside Dumbledore 🤦

    • @sw9458
      @sw9458 5 років тому +3

      yeah I thought that was stupid but it was WB way of justifying his abilities when fighting other then he's just OP

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 5 років тому +818

    They didn’t tell us where to find fantastic beasts, that’s a big sin

    • @TheReZisTLust
      @TheReZisTLust 5 років тому +3

      I actually know where it is iv seen the reference for it

    • @WAMTAT
      @WAMTAT 5 років тому +5

      They where in the suitcase.

    • @bjam27
      @bjam27 5 років тому

      @@WAMTAT Is it in the cupboard?

    • @tiffprendergast
      @tiffprendergast 5 років тому

      Trollolol no

    • @daisybtoes
      @daisybtoes 4 роки тому +3

      Oh, yes they do. The beasts either live in Newt's all- purpose suitcase or in the basement of his London house. There are loads of animals there, and Newt loves every one of them.

  • @bdletoast09
    @bdletoast09 5 років тому +562

    Grindelwald:
    Magic Barrier in place to prevent Grindelwald from moving: *kills mosquito*
    CinemaSins: "God Damnit Grindelwald"

    • @pnutz_2
      @pnutz_2 5 років тому +3

      he's like a human blue light

  • @SILVER-zf2hu
    @SILVER-zf2hu 5 років тому +690

    I haven't seen the film but I'm gonna assume the reason the alchemist was randomly in the film is cause he's Nicholas Flamel.

    • @npcx-mq6cr
      @npcx-mq6cr 5 років тому +17

      Same. 10 seconds of google saved 2 hours of my life.

    • @burnt_fuze2281
      @burnt_fuze2281 4 роки тому +16

      THINGS!! excitement??

    • @daisybtoes
      @daisybtoes 4 роки тому +14

      Of course! Flamel is also a great wizard, and I am glad he's in the story. He ties us into the first Harry Potter story.

    • @pyrosfolly5698
      @pyrosfolly5698 3 роки тому +3

      We even get to see the stone!

    • @enzozbestetti5992
      @enzozbestetti5992 3 роки тому

      Not only, but also

  • @boozeandbullets6997
    @boozeandbullets6997 5 років тому +514

    “Wingardian LevioSKIP!!!” 😂

  • @georgiemac1784
    @georgiemac1784 5 років тому +591

    I would take ten sins off for the jacob guy acting confused when they arrive at hogwarts. He's the best part of that franchise!

    • @SasukeUchiha723
      @SasukeUchiha723 5 років тому +65

      yeah, cause for muggles, hogwarts would just be seen as a ruined castle like in the last HP movie

    • @RossMacHattie
      @RossMacHattie 5 років тому +13

      He definitely is.

    • @tiaaaron3278
      @tiaaaron3278 5 років тому +5

      Best part is Dumbledore. This should have been his franchise.

    • @RossMacHattie
      @RossMacHattie 5 років тому +5

      @@tiaaaron3278 nah didn't like him in this film.

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 5 років тому +3

      Yes, say whatever you want about the state of the "Fantastic Beasts" films, Dan Fogler is clearly the best part of them!

  • @W1ll88
    @W1ll88 5 років тому +209

    Am I the only one who found the scene with Queeny going with Grindelwald an extreme 180? Like sure she didn't like the rules that they had to follow but that's just because she loved Jacob so much....the she leaves him? To go with the murdering dude who hates muggles?

    • @barboraklepalova3886
      @barboraklepalova3886 4 роки тому +28

      Andddd she used Love potion on Jacob. Someone else once used it on somebody and we all know how that ended.

    • @Arenuphis
      @Arenuphis 2 роки тому +10

      Yeah I have 0 clue why we're supposed to be attached to Queeny at all during or after this movie
      Besides any residual feelings after the last, really questionable, movie

    • @Aaron-un4jo
      @Aaron-un4jo 2 роки тому +5

      The idea was she was never allowed to associate with Muggles because of the rule… then she fell in love with a Muggle, to which she can’t marry or live a life due to the rule, so she’s joining the team that is looking to abolish said rule… I don’t think she left him I think she wants to end these rule and probably will pursue him once it’s gone. At least that’s what I understood from the film

    • @elizabethlee7520
      @elizabethlee7520 2 роки тому +1

      Same

    • @johncmoore416
      @johncmoore416 2 роки тому +2

      Perhaps she was hit with an off screen imperious curse.

  • @avatarofpaine
    @avatarofpaine 5 років тому +2537

    I wanted Fantastic Beasts movies not Harry potter prequel movies

    • @brentarellano46
      @brentarellano46 5 років тому +112

      Yes mate! Good to meet someone else with the same mindset.

    • @calebproductions1264
      @calebproductions1264 5 років тому +24

      I’ve never seen any of the Harry Potter movies.

    • @brentarellano46
      @brentarellano46 5 років тому +31

      @@calebproductions1264 didn't miss much lol

    • @IRMentat
      @IRMentat 5 років тому +27

      avatarofpaine yep, total waste of an intriguing setting.
      I like me some urban fantasy but this was total nonsense.

    • @philip5513
      @philip5513 5 років тому +164

      The main characters literally have nothing to do with Grindlewald and the major plot points of this film save for shoehorned romance. The main cast WAS very interesting and now Queenie is basically ruined and Newt and Tina have been reduced to a will they won't they. And at the same damn time, it's not EVEN a Harry Potter prequel film because J.K. can't remember her own damn continuity and lore!

  • @Ehh97
    @Ehh97 5 років тому +301

    This is one of those things where I'm like "Well I know its bad, but I wanna hear YOU say it."

    • @captainman6914
      @captainman6914 3 роки тому

      I mean after rewatching it along time later it's good but harry potter was way to good so it's gonna seem bad either way

    • @harrydrake4173
      @harrydrake4173 3 роки тому +2

      @@captainman6914 No

  • @KoKris420
    @KoKris420 5 років тому +636

    If Newt can magically recreate scenes, why didn't anyone do that when Peter blew up everyone and framed Sirus Black?

    • @Fredcat11
      @Fredcat11 4 роки тому +27

      Perhaps that considered illegal magic to be used. And it got banned after Newt was caught for this shit.

    • @Maxvr9999
      @Maxvr9999 4 роки тому +28

      @@Fredcat11 Shouldn't stop Bellatrix from using it in Mealfoy's mansion to identify they have captured Harry.

    • @Fredcat11
      @Fredcat11 4 роки тому +5

      @@Maxvr9999 True, and that's because she's a villain and she is an example of why that law was set up. Harry and his bubs don't use any Dark Magics, saving Hermione at several points and Harry himself when cast one straight out of the book in Year 6, I think.

    • @daisybtoes
      @daisybtoes 4 роки тому

      Because New t is a lot more powerful than Peter.

    • @adityabhalekar3506
      @adityabhalekar3506 3 роки тому

      because he was incredibly old and didn't care?

  • @safsren
    @safsren 5 років тому +803

    If Grindelwald isn't lying about who Credence is, then that's a HUGE problem with the HP books as Credence was born after Dumbledore's parents were dead

    • @3872864
      @3872864 5 років тому +10

      No dun agree there might be other Dumbledores out there :)

    • @mallios13
      @mallios13 5 років тому +100

      Given McGonagall, Rowling doesn't care anymore about these things.

    • @arachnesakura9375
      @arachnesakura9375 5 років тому +37

      @@3872864 may i remind you that Aberforth Dumbledore is still alive and kicking? Angry at the world and overly fond of goats but its possible he had to have had sex at some point with someone. Its possible their father had a brother as well.

    • @3872864
      @3872864 5 років тому +7

      @@arachnesakura9375 wow everyone's making me confused Imma make a family tree of the Dumbledores

    • @3872864
      @3872864 5 років тому +5

      @@mallios13 maybe she'll care about it in the next movie i kinda rant about the third movie last night and keep making flow charts about how the story should go and when will Newt and Tina become Newtina 😅 I'm really excited for the third movie maybe Rowling will make it better, there is a 3 year gap between the 2nd movie and the 3rd movie, so i guess she is gonna make it better.

  • @guyjackson2062
    @guyjackson2062 5 років тому +80

    In the Harry Potter stories the wizards go around wearing robes and quite a few of them seem to have no idea how actual Muggles dress, but in Fantastic Beasts they're all wearing regular suits. When and why did wizards lose their ability to blend in sartorially with the rest of society?

    • @deemee009
      @deemee009 2 роки тому

      Wow too true

    • @mush6681
      @mush6681 2 роки тому +6

      Thats USA wizarding world for you, in britian its the robes

    • @johncmoore416
      @johncmoore416 2 роки тому

      @@mush6681 buuuuuuuuut Dumbledore was wearing a suit and he is very Britishy

    • @mush6681
      @mush6681 2 роки тому +1

      @@johncmoore416 i mean almost every dada teacher had a suit on, lupin, quirrel, lockhart, mad eye (fake) moody

    • @johncmoore416
      @johncmoore416 2 роки тому

      @@mush6681 In the books, weren't the teachers required to wear robs of any color?

  • @abbywolffe4114
    @abbywolffe4114 4 роки тому +55

    I will say when Leta explained what her Boggart was and the flashback showed her baby brother slowly sinking in the white blanket, I did get chills because it's pretty horrifying to watch what you know is a baby drown, but that was the strongest emotion I felt watching this movie

  • @pokemonmaster0079
    @pokemonmaster0079 5 років тому +610

    This film suffers because it's just a huge 130-minute exposition dump for the next three films.

    • @definitelynottommywiseau3037
      @definitelynottommywiseau3037 5 років тому +1

      filler!

    • @SamTheMarioMan
      @SamTheMarioMan 5 років тому +17

      Oh yeah, I forgot that there are still 3 more of these. WHY are there 3 more of these? They got the blood pact back, they can destroy it and Dumbledore can have the big fight with Grindelwald in the next movie

    • @arturofernandez4058
      @arturofernandez4058 5 років тому +24

      @@SamTheMarioMan Because Warner is lagging behind Disney and the only franchise that ever came close to being a rival is Harry Potter. So they'll milk it for all their worth

    • @kumirapau-chan9880
      @kumirapau-chan9880 5 років тому +10

      *chokes* 3 FILMS ???? Wasn't it supposed to be just a trilogy ?!

    • @pokemonmaster0079
      @pokemonmaster0079 5 років тому +1

      @@kumirapau-chan9880 Nope. It's five films totally.

  • @tip4tip852
    @tip4tip852 5 років тому +866

    Can't believe you didn't give the scene with Professor McGonagall 100 sins!

    • @kaileealtman9630
      @kaileealtman9630 5 років тому +7

      The SuperCarlinBrothers made a video about that.

    • @MasterGeek-mk5ne
      @MasterGeek-mk5ne 5 років тому +17

      The Sin’s guys doesn’t care about the books, adaptations aren’t always 100% perfects.

    • @berrypop33
      @berrypop33 5 років тому +10

      @@MasterGeek-mk5ne but this also includes the movie series - McGonagall shouldn't be in this movie because she hasn't been born yet

    • @MasterGeek-mk5ne
      @MasterGeek-mk5ne 5 років тому +2

      Berry Pop well, that because this movie was a mess. A much darker and tramatic tone than the last movie, with useless plotlines that goes anywhere, a fucking prologue to another movie. This must be the worst movie from the Potterverse so far.

    • @SeraphimCramer
      @SeraphimCramer 5 років тому +4

      @@berrypop33 Yeah, but her age & how long she's been teaching at Hogwarts is never made clear in the movies, ergo if you only watch the movies, there's no reason you'd think anything was wrong with McGonagall being there.

  • @orangejuice1418
    @orangejuice1418 5 років тому +136

    0:09 this man just MEMED himself. CinemaSins has become self-aware. The End is nigh

    • @plushblueep
      @plushblueep 4 роки тому +9

      Jeremy has outdid himself.

    • @Gloomyraindrop
      @Gloomyraindrop 4 роки тому +5

      Maybe he was just mocking everyone that overuses that meme.

    • @carlwheezerofsouls3273
      @carlwheezerofsouls3273 3 роки тому

      the good news is, literally nobody can say “but jeremy, the intros are perfectly fine!” after he called them out like that

  • @luckyspurs
    @luckyspurs 5 років тому +16

    Never has a film written by one person given off more of a vibe of being written by 8 different people on different continents, without each other's email addresses.

  • @apocalimp2401
    @apocalimp2401 5 років тому +1477

    sin: literally nothing happened in this movie.

    • @Skypost4ever
      @Skypost4ever 5 років тому +57

      Bad guy escaped and found the kid he wants to use to kill Dumbledore, while newt goes to Paris and catches a "fantastic beast" with his friends (totally forgot their names) and then some sub plot about newts brother's fiance and then some other characters thrown in.

    • @ssapling3902
      @ssapling3902 5 років тому +50

      Hey, two babies were murdered. That's a lot.

    • @mikehu2451
      @mikehu2451 5 років тому +45

      @@Skypost4ever sin: two lines can explain the whole movie

    • @3872864
      @3872864 5 років тому +9

      A lot happened they explained a lot about Newt and Leta's childhood and explained what is Grindewald's motive and why he wants Credence... and at the end theres a twist that Grindewald says that Credence is a Dumbledore and we don't know if he's telling the truth or not. Yes something happened in this movie.

    • @ssapling3902
      @ssapling3902 5 років тому +37

      @@3872864 Yes, you said it yourself. They explained a lot. The whole movie was basically people talking about stuff and waiting for something to happen. 90% of the movie is just loads of exposition with barely any character development mixed in and serving entirely as setup for another movie.

  • @justtrash3349
    @justtrash3349 5 років тому +66

    Movie: *Has logo*
    CinemaSins: You have failed.

    • @TheBreezeakaEmma
      @TheBreezeakaEmma 5 років тому +8

      Movie: Well, this movie was created, and here's who did th-
      CinemaSins: HOW D A R E YOU

  • @emawesterfeld306
    @emawesterfeld306 5 років тому +464

    usually i’m somewhat defensive of the movies that cinemasins reviews,,,,
    but boy does this movie deserve it

    • @SilviaNight99
      @SilviaNight99 5 років тому +9

      This movie got no retracted sins and I'm not mad about it for once. This movie was basically filler for the next one. If the Characters didn't keep saying they were in Paris i would not have even known. Like there was just so much wrong here 😭

    • @OrphanHart
      @OrphanHart 5 років тому +7

      None of the videos are reviews. You've been defensive for no reason. It's entertainment, no different than when buddies watch a horror movie together and say out loud "I would've run away instead of going into that house" or "She could've called the cops". Just pointing stuff out for fun, not any serious analysis.

    • @emawesterfeld306
      @emawesterfeld306 5 років тому +1

      Bunny Rabbit yeah, i’ve realized that i wasn’t very clear in the original comment. i didn’t really mean review, i just couldn’t think of the right word and i was just trying to make a dumb comment about my annoyance with the film

    • @rissa1001
      @rissa1001 5 років тому +2

      But this movie is good tho😂😂

  • @definitelynottommywiseau3037
    @definitelynottommywiseau3037 5 років тому +486

    Say what you will about the first movie, but at least stuff happens in it. Barely nothing happens in this, just two hours of boring exposition and misunderstandings that go on forever.

    • @Nicholas_Chen_
      @Nicholas_Chen_ 5 років тому +10

      Hmm, the third act has a lot of things happening, so I won’t say this movie has nothing happening. The first two acts are just like collections of scenes from different storylines tho and I can see why people think that way

    • @astralaris8712
      @astralaris8712 5 років тому +7

      I mean, the first movie had its own storyline, the 2nd one just tries REALLY hard to be Harry Potter....

    • @Twillight1234
      @Twillight1234 5 років тому +7

      I just really miss some fantastic beasts and maybe some introduction to find them!

    • @sandymcneish7820
      @sandymcneish7820 5 років тому

      😵😵😵😵😵😠😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😲😵😵😵😵😠😵😵😱😡😠😵

    • @mr.stuffdoer8483
      @mr.stuffdoer8483 5 років тому +3

      Isn’t that Order of the Phoenix in a nutshell

  • @Nicamon
    @Nicamon 5 років тому +316

    No sins for the Mirror of Erised working *not* in the way the Mirror of Erised is supposed to work?

    • @XyntakLP
      @XyntakLP 5 років тому +21

      You have no idea what Dumbledore desires most so how can you say it's not working properly?

    • @Evelina_412
      @Evelina_412 5 років тому +110

      @@XyntakLP It shows you what you desire most. It's very literal. What it showed Dumbledore in the movie was a full flashback to how him and Grindelwald created the blood pact, which then later switched to an image of the current Grindelwald, with no Dumbledore in the reflection at all. What the movie was trying to say is that his biggest desire is Grindelwald, but if it stayed true to how the mirror is supposed to work, it would've showed Dumbledore a reflection of himself with Grindelwald, that's it. The flashback makes no sense.

    • @ethanjobson3817
      @ethanjobson3817 5 років тому +15

      How many things/people from the HP series were randomly shoehorned into this movie?

    • @leslieshE
      @leslieshE 5 років тому +31

      @@Evelina_412 Maybe what he desires is to just go back to that time when they had performed the pact. When they were still 'friends'. Because he misses that time. The blood pact must have taken place in a time where they were the closest and he misses that. Just speculations based on Rowling's comment about Dumbledore and Grindelwald being sexually involved back then.

    • @Nicamon
      @Nicamon 5 років тому +15

      @@leslieshE That's the point...these are just speculations. In"The Philosopher Stone"you didn't have to *speculate* on what the scenes of the Mirror meant:Harry *clearely* wanted to be with his parents,Ron *said* he was headboy and captain of the Quidditch team that won the cup,Quirrle *said* he wanted to get the Stone,we *saw* Harry getting the Stone...we *know* all this,we don't have to speculate about it because the vision was ambiguous.

  • @guibin
    @guibin 5 років тому +286

    Yeah, that opening scene was hard to watch.
    Why are ministry wizards wearing muggle suits at the ministry and Hogwarts?

    • @AntPDC
      @AntPDC 5 років тому +2

      Yeah. Beats me.

    • @ghedebaronsamedi
      @ghedebaronsamedi 5 років тому +30

      More like why does everybody wear Muggle clothing in this movie? Good job taking away the magic...

    • @elephant35e
      @elephant35e 5 років тому +7

      Maybe wizard fashion in the 1920s was different?

    • @guibin
      @guibin 5 років тому +17

      @@elephant35e Wizard fashion regressed from the 1920s to the 1990s then.

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 3 роки тому +1

      And wizards and witches are shit at blending in with Muggles so them wearing normal Muggle clothes makes even less sense.

  • @J2Holy
    @J2Holy 5 років тому +347

    Unnecessary prequels and where to find them

    • @jessebond4280
      @jessebond4280 4 роки тому +2

      @Krishna Ammini Yeah, but the "prequels" expand the world already established in the initial story (Harry Potter) so now anyone who watches this series for the first time in chronological order will have most of Harry Potter ruined for them.

    • @evlovesbooks
      @evlovesbooks 4 роки тому

      @@jessebond4280 How? What do they foreshadow?

    • @SA-vl9dr
      @SA-vl9dr 4 роки тому

      @@evlovesbooks Exactly

    • @evlovesbooks
      @evlovesbooks 4 роки тому +1

      @@SA-vl9dr Actually I can think of one thing, and that is that there is a person named dumbledore.

    • @SA-vl9dr
      @SA-vl9dr 4 роки тому

      @@evlovesbooks there is a school of magic called hogwarts
      And then the awe of seeing hogwarts in that scene of hpatss
      is lost

  • @krzysztofkotua2855
    @krzysztofkotua2855 5 років тому +83

    Also if they know Gridelwald is a skilled wizard who can impersonate other people can't they perform a simple Revelio spell on him twice a day just like Newt did at the end of the last movie?

    • @daisybtoes
      @daisybtoes 4 роки тому +1

      I don't think the MACUSA people know wheaTgrass was Grindelwald in disguise until the very end. Newt figured it out, and was able to take him on. Now do you see what Dumbledore sees in Newt?

  • @lorettadg6815
    @lorettadg6815 5 років тому +379

    Plus, McGonagal's appearance that f*cked up the entire HP timeline

    • @mallios13
      @mallios13 5 років тому +9

      We can pretend that wasn't her. She's not likely the only person with that name, and if magic is all genetics, clearly things would be very familial. There could be another female McGonagall working at Hogwarts who might be a distant cousin or aunt of Minvera's.

    • @jessicapaone1436
      @jessicapaone1436 5 років тому +20

      @@mallios13 Mcgonagall's a halfblood and her muggle parent is her father. Mcgonagall is also her maiden name because she kept it after she got married (according to Pottermore). Therefore, there is no possible way there could be another Minerva Mcgonagall could be at Hogwarts before our Minerva is born, because any others would be muggle or muggleborn (which are shown to not be able to get high ranking jobs [even teaching jobs] at this time period due to racism and the fear of muggles).

    • @mallios13
      @mallios13 5 років тому +3

      @@jessicapaone1436 Then... maybe, her dad was really a squib?
      Eh, whatever, the FB films aren't half as enjoyable as the HP movies.

    • @FulcanMal
      @FulcanMal 5 років тому +3

      Not a sin by Cinemasins standards. All of the contradictions occur in exterior sources to the films.

    • @mallios13
      @mallios13 5 років тому +3

      @@FulcanMal This is CinemaSins, where everything is made up and the sins don't matter.
      We can sin CS for even bothering to sin movies, and we can sin them for things out of their control. They're not consistent with the system themselves.

  • @neveanna13
    @neveanna13 5 років тому +621

    It really is such an awful film and I really liked the first movie, but this one is so bad it genuinely makes me angry

    • @jayzeld.simbulan4248
      @jayzeld.simbulan4248 5 років тому +46

      I can't believe how bad it is. I can't believe what i was watching lol nothing made sense. The characters were just kinda there but there's no substance whatsoever

    • @definitelynottommywiseau3037
      @definitelynottommywiseau3037 5 років тому +46

      it's just two hours of boring filler, endless amount of subplots, and uninteresting exposition that goes on forever.

    • @aheinz308
      @aheinz308 5 років тому +4

      it was honestly an ok movie but the CGI made it terrible.

    • @mindlessjellyfish8065
      @mindlessjellyfish8065 5 років тому +22

      A Heinz to me, the CGI was fine. Things that needed to look pretty, looked pretty. But the story is just all over the place. It feels like they had a solid plot line, but then tossed it into a blender and then used that as a movie instead.

    • @user-hl9ww3ml2m
      @user-hl9ww3ml2m 5 років тому +9

      That’s exactly how I felt. Loved the first one but this one is just awful

  • @matthewdavisson528
    @matthewdavisson528 5 років тому +133

    This was the first time in years that I saw Jonny Depp and did not think he was still playing Captain Jack Sparrow.

    • @comfortskr
      @comfortskr 4 роки тому +6

      Lol then you missed some of his roles

    • @xthefordx
      @xthefordx 2 роки тому +2

      you don't see many movies of his, do you?

  • @rebelvictorsofthecornucopi8670
    @rebelvictorsofthecornucopi8670 5 років тому +161

    “I thought slo mo with the character making a silly face was confined to animated kids movies”
    There is no escape...

    • @tobybartels8426
      @tobybartels8426 5 років тому +1

      Well, this *is* an animated kids' movie. It's not 100% animated (it's more like Roger Rabbit), but this was one of the animated characters, so ….

  • @colbyandbrennen3543
    @colbyandbrennen3543 5 років тому +1309

    Love Harry Potter universe but this movie felt like a mess

    • @danksarumanoflotr1
      @danksarumanoflotr1 5 років тому +44

      it was

    • @slyfox3460
      @slyfox3460 5 років тому +45

      it isn't even a part of the Harry Potter universe as far as I'm concerned

    • @dolopdieren
      @dolopdieren 5 років тому +6

      True. It is mostly a prequel for the upcoming film.

    • @emotrash1064
      @emotrash1064 5 років тому +8

      I can’t even watch this movie anymore cuz it makes me so mad

    • @EthanCruise
      @EthanCruise 5 років тому +6

      Be honest. This was shit!

  • @CulturalMarxist4985
    @CulturalMarxist4985 4 роки тому +30

    I was sort of hoping for the Fantastic Beasts spin offs not to focus on the larger story, but on Newt's travels across different countries, and encounters with new characters and creatures which would maybe gradually lead to the story with Grindelwald instead of going with it straight away with the exact same characters from the first movie.

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq 5 років тому +61

    Did anyone else find themselves distracted from the plot by Grindelwald's outlandish 80's punk rock getup? He looked more like he was the frontman of a tribute rock band, and not the leader of a wizardry revolution. He also reminded me of a candlestick, which is the last thing Johnny Depp should be compared to!😂

    • @hmax17
      @hmax17 5 років тому +7

      His eyes and cole slaw haircut were just awful. Also him as a human being/actor is pretty terrible

    • @TheYasmineFlower
      @TheYasmineFlower 5 років тому +2

      @@zqsay-6839 He allegedly beat his then-girlfriend, Amber Heard.

    • @F1ipf1up
      @F1ipf1up 5 років тому +6

      His outfit was outstandingly ugly. I still can't get over the contact lens that looked so immensely fake... This movie made him look so terrible. What you are saying sounds way too complementing in my oppinion :D

    • @hmax17
      @hmax17 5 років тому

      @@panthera9151 No, it didn't. They were equally abusive of one another. The new "evidence" is just from his side. She has new "evidence" as well.

    • @hmax17
      @hmax17 5 років тому

      @@zqsay-6839 There is proof and I'm not on either side. They are both horrible people that abused one another.

  • @soursyrup6065
    @soursyrup6065 5 років тому +177

    The first movie was great and held a lot of promise for a new franchise......
    its sequel, however, just killed all of that.

    • @LordTalax
      @LordTalax 5 років тому +7

      Great? First movie was pretty dull

    • @bipstymcbipste5641
      @bipstymcbipste5641 5 років тому +2

      @@LordTalax i enjoyed all of it.

    • @astralaris8712
      @astralaris8712 5 років тому +14

      It at least had its owns storyline, with all the beasts and the new Characters, the 2nd one just tries REALLY hard to be Harry Potter

    • @SilviaNight99
      @SilviaNight99 5 років тому

      And it fails because they didn't explain ANYTHING they were meant to in an intriguing way. Like they went more for theatrics and not ACTUAL explaining of things. The characters were out of character (except Newt and the new ones) and generally just standing there.
      I hope the 3rd one is better or i will be thoroughly upset.

    • @astralaris8712
      @astralaris8712 5 років тому +6

      @@SilviaNight99 The biggest problem i have with it, is that there are SO MANY MISTAKES.
      McGonagall in the FLASHBACK from Leta.
      Leta goes to Hogwarts (shes from france and grew up in America)
      Queenie thinks Grindelwald is good, she can READ MINDS.
      Just to name a few, very few to be exact xD
      And yes, Queenie beeing so absolutly out of character was terrible.....

  • @mysticraven3
    @mysticraven3 5 років тому +75

    don´t forget Newt and Dumbledore left everyone else on the bridge as they went into Hogwarts

  • @march_223
    @march_223 5 років тому +319

    Are we ignoring that Queenie essentially became Bill Cosby?

    • @mrcritical6751
      @mrcritical6751 5 років тому +11

      She already seemed kinda off in the first movie so it makes sense she went crazy

    • @mrcritical6751
      @mrcritical6751 5 років тому +33

      No it’s not what Queenie did in this movie crossed a line she let her own wants and desires outweigh Jacob’s, yes it would be better if they moved to the U.K. but issue is Jacob doesn’t want to move he has a business and he has family memories in NY and as much as moving to a country which allows Wizards and muggles to date would benefit their relationship Queenie magically Cosbying him crossed the line and revealed a side of Queenie’s personality that Jacob and everybody else didn’t like

    • @pnutz_2
      @pnutz_2 5 років тому +2

      @@mrcritical6751 carter was being sarcastic

    • @ms_scribbles
      @ms_scribbles 5 років тому +1

      @@pnutz_2 I really doubt it.

    • @nkirukaj2384
      @nkirukaj2384 5 років тому +13

      J Dee Carter the fuck are you talking about, it is very clear that the movie presents her actions as wrong

  • @sekaihatsu
    @sekaihatsu 5 років тому +175

    I thought Grindelwald's character was more complex and intriguing in the DH book with what Dumbledore said and didn't say about him, but then this movie happened.

    • @Bim2403
      @Bim2403 5 років тому +1

      Black Ninja me too, man, me too

    • @3872864
      @3872864 5 років тому

      @Black Ninja wow

    • @3872864
      @3872864 5 років тому

      @Black Ninja xD must be embarrassing when it ended and someone tells u to wake up. Or you woke up by urself? Meh, I watched it at home so i have nothing to fear.

  • @semanticsamuel936
    @semanticsamuel936 4 роки тому +26

    The 'bigger on the inside' thing is a great mystery of the Potterverse. I've long wondered why the Burrow was always supposed to be this decrepit, cramped structure when they own tents that are bigger than my house. I get that they can be poor in terms of their gold, but they could have all the space they need. Everybody could. Having it be a complicated spell doesn't work for me. Stuff might be complicated, but you can still learn to do it. Anyone can learn how to do something complicated and technical with practice, which is of course why they go to school to learn this stuff. I'm sure it's been retconned on Pottermore at some point.

  • @carlamitce443
    @carlamitce443 5 років тому +921

    I am so disappointed in this movie and the script makes me scared of The Cursed Child

    • @RahulPatel-og2ke
      @RahulPatel-og2ke 5 років тому +1

      Carl aM agic they’re making a Cursed Child movie?

    • @slikkepott
      @slikkepott 5 років тому +2

      @@RahulPatel-og2ke No they are not making a Cursed Chil movie. its a play

    • @Lady_Crispr
      @Lady_Crispr 5 років тому +25

      I don't know why Johnny Depp keeps getting put in movies. He hasn't made a good one since the first Pirate of the Caribbean.

    • @novaneskin
      @novaneskin 5 років тому

      I honestly want to see the cursed Child movie I haven't seen the book

    • @RahulPatel-og2ke
      @RahulPatel-og2ke 5 років тому +1

      CaLl_mE_bEnJI oh ok. I know it’s a play I thought they were making an additional movie

  • @lizzy6976
    @lizzy6976 5 років тому +175

    Not a single soul:
    CinemaSins: I can do memes too, ya know?

    • @lizzy6976
      @lizzy6976 5 років тому

      @@The-Average-Noob true

    • @memorra
      @memorra 5 років тому +3

      @@The-Average-Noob In a roundabout way he was sinning the meme rather than using it because people are constantly using that moronic meme in comments on his videos. He noticed and called their asses out on it and said "fuck you people". I think its called Irony or something.

  • @minerharry
    @minerharry 5 років тому +62

    0:20 I believe the mosquito’s purpose there is to show the security field around him, and that he never actually cast a spell there.

  • @Theninja114
    @Theninja114 5 років тому +171

    Not saying spells is a sign of power. Grindlewald and Dumbledore are on that level.

    • @nathanwilliams8404
      @nathanwilliams8404 5 років тому +8

      Hollow114 Like how the wizards of Africa who master and use the original forms of magic only have to use their hands to cast a spell.

    • @nickietee4170
      @nickietee4170 5 років тому +11

      I hear what you're saying, but one of the greatest wizards of all time still said it... that one dude, ummm... Voldemort. Not saying that you're wrong, but the whole thing (at least where avarda cadarvra (sp?) is concerned is inconsistent. Will also point out that in the movie, it was one of Grindlewald's minions who silently killed the baby.

    • @FrenkieWest32
      @FrenkieWest32 4 роки тому +2

      @@nickietee4170 Voldemort is not one of the most but the most powerful as far as I know.

    • @OscarDiaz-os9jf
      @OscarDiaz-os9jf 4 роки тому +4

      @@FrenkieWest32 he was the most dangerous dark wizard not most powerful his power was reinforced by his intelligence and his loyal supporters

    • @FrenkieWest32
      @FrenkieWest32 4 роки тому +1

      @@OscarDiaz-os9jf thanks jk Rowling. I'm not convinced

  • @colmoe
    @colmoe 5 років тому +48

    So we got guys blowing air blasts, we got guys firing fire blasts, we got guys walking through stone walls, hell we got a finale with a duel featuring a insane bad character shooting massive blue fire blasts and the good character countering with regular (orange/yellow) colored smaller blasts,
    All we need is someone shooting water and then something something avatar will save the world
    EDIT: There is apparently a water based spell, thanks replier.
    Oh wait wrong series

    • @tayjaytesla1142
      @tayjaytesla1142 5 років тому +3

      Add half a dozen world breakers, 3 mad gods and a talking skeleton and you got Skullduggery Pleasant

    • @guibin
      @guibin 5 років тому +2

      In the book, there is literally a spell that shoots water out of your wand. Dumbledore manipulates water when he dueled Voldemort in the 5th movie.

  • @dakotaneelys7728
    @dakotaneelys7728 5 років тому +62

    "Newt has a horned-up redhead in his office and all he can think about doing is getting HIMSELF wet." Lmao perfect!

  • @imjessietr29
    @imjessietr29 5 років тому +130

    Newt was picked by Dumbledore precisely because unlike more powerful wizards, Newt doesn't give a shit about power. Grindy doesn't have any power over him.

    • @harshivpatel6238
      @harshivpatel6238 5 років тому +27

      like Hagrid, lacks essential skills but gets the job done somehow.

    • @loganabshier8819
      @loganabshier8819 5 років тому +10

      This movie wasn’t great (just a cash grab) but these sins kinda suck if you look at the overal series.

    • @Just_A_Random_Person_908
      @Just_A_Random_Person_908 5 років тому +1

      Harshiv Patel I mean I guess you're right.

    • @rissa1001
      @rissa1001 5 років тому +1

      True plus newt is awesome!

  • @nicnl255
    @nicnl255 5 років тому +213

    The second sin seems wrong
    To me it looks like the mosquito was killed by a forcefield, not by the guy's magic

    • @mranimazing2190
      @mranimazing2190 5 років тому +22

      Shhh, let him have his tongue twister

  • @schrodingerscat3741
    @schrodingerscat3741 5 років тому +26

    "Tell me again why we need these long stretches of magical monster maintenance in this movie???"
    The real question is why we need anything else!

  • @geardog24
    @geardog24 5 років тому +205

    "Is there not a spell you can put on someone to make them stop talking?"
    Yes, it's called the mute button.

    • @scrutinous
      @scrutinous 5 років тому +23

      There's literally a Silencing Charm in the original series.

    • @Lotsolov4u
      @Lotsolov4u 5 років тому +19

      And snape invented one that sticks the tongue to the roof of the mouth. Harry used it on peeves

    • @100nitrog2
      @100nitrog2 5 років тому +3

      If I recall correctly, the spell, shown in the 5th book during a Charms lesson, is 'silencio' (I read the entire Harry Potter series to a disabled client over the past 6 months because it's one of his favorites). Which begs the question of how Spanish speaking wizards deal with that.

    • @heatherreagan8078
      @heatherreagan8078 5 років тому +4

      @@100nitrog2 I assume that they use a different word to do the spell. Or maybe it only works with intent and not simply saying the word in everyday conversation.

    • @pvshka
      @pvshka 5 років тому +1

      @@heatherreagan8078 people seem to forget non-verbal spellcasting is a thing.

  • @Hello--There
    @Hello--There 5 років тому +168

    No one:
    Absolutely no one:
    No one in the history of existence:
    Not a single multi-celled organism:
    CinemaSins: 35 SECONDS OF TWO LOGOS IS ENTIRELY TOO MANY LOGOS!!!

    • @jjjjjjjn__
      @jjjjjjjn__ 5 років тому +3

      HelloThere you just repeated a joke so haha I guess

    • @BaronVonBielski
      @BaronVonBielski 5 років тому

      Awesome! You repeated a really shitty joke!

  • @Noobahara
    @Noobahara 5 років тому +90

    1:28 - 1:43 Seriously so funny xD
    To be honest, if you had actually ended the vid, I think I would have died of laughter!

    • @dancrane3807
      @dancrane3807 4 роки тому +2

      And it really would be 20 minutes or less.

  • @akirashere6118
    @akirashere6118 5 років тому +311

    He used a meme in the beginning and I love it

    • @sr98851
      @sr98851 5 років тому +3

      What meme?

    • @gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179
      @gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179 5 років тому +33

      Nobody:
      Absolutely no one:
      Not a single soul in existence:
      Not a molecule in the vastness of space:
      Me: this one.

    • @aheinz308
      @aheinz308 5 років тому +12

      @@sr98851 your the one person who's socially unaware about everything

    • @shaderu3402
      @shaderu3402 5 років тому +5

      He’s becoming self-aware!

    • @Just_A_Random_Person_908
      @Just_A_Random_Person_908 5 років тому +1

      Gaetano De Paola Second Channel you tell him lol

  • @zeethanguo
    @zeethanguo 5 років тому +208

    Meanwhile in Hollywood, directors are waiting for the latest Cinemasins video to see what to do and what not to do.

    • @MrJorge3010
      @MrJorge3010 5 років тому +16

      if only :(

    • @MrTrueFury
      @MrTrueFury 5 років тому +4

      doubt

    • @The-Average-Noob
      @The-Average-Noob 5 років тому +5

      "He sinned the wall phasing Jim"
      "Good, lets put more of it in the next movie"

    • @SnorriSnibble
      @SnorriSnibble 5 років тому

      And then they do the exact opposite.

    • @takuansoho5836
      @takuansoho5836 5 років тому +2

      ... and then they snort a little Kilimandjaro made with cocaïne and say : " - Uuuh... What were we taking about ? Ah yes, money !"

  • @Green1Chaos
    @Green1Chaos 5 років тому +107

    Should be a sin that Newt Scamander's brother looks like Percy Weasley.

    • @htgbookworm
      @htgbookworm 5 років тому +14

      Surprised they didn't try and work that in, since apparently everyone is either a relative or younger version of someone from the original series.

    • @lunyf2165
      @lunyf2165 5 років тому +5

      glad someone else saw this too. I had the "why does Theseus look like Percy Weasley?"-moment within the first few seconds of seeing him

    • @melissablaine3164
      @melissablaine3164 4 роки тому

      Is it the same actor?

    • @samchaucer4875
      @samchaucer4875 4 роки тому +8

      @@melissablaine3164 No, Percy was portrayed by Chris Rankin and Theseus by Callum Turner. But yeah, they're kinda the same type of guy.

    • @tsuumee4545
      @tsuumee4545 4 роки тому +3

      That's exactly what I thought! I knew it wasn't the same actor but he looked so familiar

  • @tetsujin_144
    @tetsujin_144 5 років тому +34

    0:37: "He's very persuasive. So we removed his tongue."
    "Is there not a spell you can use to stop someone from talking?"
    Yes, there is, and it works by removing their tongue. :)

    • @Swiftbow
      @Swiftbow 5 років тому +8

      No, "Silencio" also does it without medieval torture techniques.

    • @tayjaytesla1142
      @tayjaytesla1142 5 років тому

      If your gonna go that far kill the poor guy and be dome with it!

  • @athena5015
    @athena5015 5 років тому +148

    How do you go from as great a film as the original to *this* as the sequel? This movie had wayyy too many plot threads.
    Also, I know the Paris across the Thames from London thing is a joke, but it still made me angry.

    • @roar4767
      @roar4767 5 років тому +15

      21 hours ago?????

    • @jezreelphil8437
      @jezreelphil8437 5 років тому +12

      What sort of time travel magic do you use?

    • @radec5437
      @radec5437 5 років тому +6

      She Is a Witch! Prepare the holy flame! Deus vult ,XD

    • @szeth14
      @szeth14 5 років тому

      My small hope is that they understand that it sucked, and hopefully fix their mistakes in part 3.... Teeny tiny hope. Still love the original though

    • @iBlewupthemoon98
      @iBlewupthemoon98 5 років тому +4

      It feels like they originally wanted Fantastic Beasts to be a standalone film, but then they shoehorned in Grindewald at the end for a sequel

  • @Jess-mh8uu
    @Jess-mh8uu 3 роки тому +24

    I’m okay with the first fantastic beats, but I never really wanted another movie unless it was about ONLY newt and fantastic beasts (how he communicates with creatures, how he tames them, and maybe more of his backstory in hogwarts. etc)

  • @thegrimknight6552
    @thegrimknight6552 5 років тому +125

    This is a major concern.
    Why aren't the bonus round sins multiplying like in the good ole days?

    • @Swiftbow
      @Swiftbow 5 років тому +6

      As I recall, bonus rounds have been additive and/or multiplicative. It's at their whim.

    • @memorra
      @memorra 5 років тому

      Yeah I was disappointed it didn't reach at least 5,000 sins due to the bonus round. Oh well.

  • @TheCrimsonS4ge
    @TheCrimsonS4ge 5 років тому +26

    That blue fire was modified FiendFyre, a super hard, super lethal spell that is easy to cast, but damn near impossible to control. Imagine FiendFyre as being the same as a nuclear reactor, pretty easy to start up, but if you lose control, shit hits the fan, which is why when Grindelwald left it got crazy, because he wasn’t there to keep it in check anymore. It always takes the form of a animal (hence the dragon). It’s super hard to control which is why seeming him control and manipulate it to his liking that well is really fucking impressive which speaks volumes as to how powerful grindelwald is. Although it should have been clearly explained in the movie exactly what was going on. Only die hard Harry Potter fans would have any clue as to what was going on.

    • @dilospino
      @dilospino 5 років тому +4

      It isn't fiendfyre, the spell is called Protego diabolica

  • @squidsquiddly5970
    @squidsquiddly5970 5 років тому +36

    Voldemort "I will take decades to harness the illusive ability of Immortality!!!!! Killing dozens in the process, using ancient unknown objects and literally boiling my re-birthed body into a fetus!
    Wahaha!!
    Old dude "I studied alchemy a few years and can not ever die as is customary... "Everyone in the room yawns and goes about their day."

    • @SpectralKnight
      @SpectralKnight 5 років тому +7

      Well the philosopher's/ sorcerer's stone that he made was a target for Voldemort. And Flamel is so fragile from drinking the elixir that keeps him immortal (the stone is an ingredient) a good push down the stairs would scatter him to the winds

    • @daisybtoes
      @daisybtoes 4 роки тому

      Well, old Flamel clearly has arthritic hands. That gets a chuckle from me since I have arthritic feet!

    • @carlwheezerofsouls3273
      @carlwheezerofsouls3273 3 роки тому

      @@daisybtoes you should be glad you dont do most of your work with your feet, arthritic hands suck ASS as far as im aware.

    • @Boogeyyyman
      @Boogeyyyman 2 роки тому

      It's not the same. Flamel can die easily and will go to afterlife if he gets murdered. He just won't die by natural death. Voldemort was basically immortal. His soul was earthbound due to being fractured in Horcruxes. And for the case one of his physical bodies was destroyed he had developed spells to create a new one.

  • @RaptorJesus.
    @RaptorJesus. 5 років тому +201

    4:57 you really went for "birdshadowing" and not "Fawkeshadowing"? XD

    • @tobybartels8426
      @tobybartels8426 5 років тому

      That would work better with a British accent.

    • @ZombieWilfred
      @ZombieWilfred 5 років тому +1

      Uh... Yeah, because it was foreshadowing Credence's phoenix. Fawkes is Dumbledore's phoenix and is not seen in this movie. XD Also, you can't really foreshadow something that we've seen before.

    • @owenchafer1083
      @owenchafer1083 5 років тому +6

      I think fawkespostion is better.

    • @ZombieWilfred
      @ZombieWilfred 5 років тому +2

      @@owenchafer1083 Again, no Fawkes in the movie, so I'd go with "phoenixposition..." 😁

    • @owenchafer1083
      @owenchafer1083 5 років тому +1

      @@ZombieWilfred Damm. I guess yours works as well though.

  • @waynepettry1730
    @waynepettry1730 5 років тому +139

    Opening scene, the bug is killed by a shield preventing anything from coming into contact with him, not his own magic
    Edit: also, it's pretty well established that you can't transport someone else really far without using horses, broom, portkey, etc

    • @Lia-uf1ir
      @Lia-uf1ir 5 років тому +8

      Well, you can't blame a non-Harry-Potter-fan for not knowing These Things...

    • @dasea
      @dasea 5 років тому +13

      Do you mean in the movie? In the Harry Potter books i mean portkey would be spot on. Side along apparition floo network whole host of ways to transport people. The only reason Harry was transported other ways in the books was due to being underage and at times the ministry of magic itself being the people who manage such things and being the people they were actively hiding from.

    • @lydiajoyce1902
      @lydiajoyce1902 5 років тому +3

      What about apparition?

    • @harshivpatel6238
      @harshivpatel6238 5 років тому +11

      portkeys across 7 continents in book 4

    • @knaengt
      @knaengt 5 років тому

      Wayne Pettry but then again - Dear ol’ JK once stated that a powerfull wizard can be able to use spectral transference across countries.
      But also in this very movie we saw Newt and Jacob travel damn far!

  • @AndreiFierbinteanu
    @AndreiFierbinteanu 5 років тому +21

    0:22 I don't think Grindelwald murders the mosquito there. I think it's supposed to show there's also a magical barrier around him, it's not just the jail cell to keep him from moving.

    • @Tk-nf2xd
      @Tk-nf2xd 2 роки тому

      I think so to
      Also it would be not enough to protect it, im mean its Grindelwald

  • @timebender25
    @timebender25 5 років тому +11

    "Is there not a spell you can use to get someone to stop talking?" 0:35
    There are a few, langlock springs to mind first, which sticks the target's tongue to the roof of their mouth. There's also others, just a creative application of the silencing charm to make a person so quiet they're basically mute.
    I know no one legitimately asked, but yeah.

  • @sr98851
    @sr98851 5 років тому +61

    They do have a silencing charm right? Like silencio or something

    • @GiftedContractor
      @GiftedContractor 5 років тому +7

      Yeah I presumed it was supposed to make a point about how cruel the american ministry is to its criminals. They don't have Dementors so they have to be more creative.

    • @semanticsamuel936
      @semanticsamuel936 5 років тому +2

      Tonne Tongue Toffee could work too, and been funny.

    • @marcuschen2779
      @marcuschen2779 5 років тому +5

      @Epic charon_gaming nope. According to the book, Hermione used it on an death eater in the battle in the ministry

    • @sabrinaschell4938
      @sabrinaschell4938 5 років тому +2

      @Epic charon_gaming Voldemort used it on the whole crowd at the Battle of Hogwarts in the seventh book.

    • @charlidacatio3555
      @charlidacatio3555 5 років тому

      It’s Muffulo that’s the spell

  • @c4g3dB34st
    @c4g3dB34st 3 роки тому +12

    JK Rowling really went gaga at the storyline of this series. Good Lord she finished Harry Potter while she was still sane

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 3 роки тому +1

      Since she keeps retconning stuff about the series through Pottermore and Twitter nor really.

  • @ventimybeloved
    @ventimybeloved 5 років тому +89

    "Now theyre acting like ross and rachel after they were on a break" AJSKZNSKDK

    • @TheEsdaniel
      @TheEsdaniel 5 років тому +1

      They were on a BREAK !!!

  • @lukellama7210
    @lukellama7210 5 років тому +769

    Love Harry Potter but my god this movie sucked

    • @LuciferXFallen290
      @LuciferXFallen290 5 років тому +27

      That's because J.K.Rowling knows shit about movie script writing 😁

    • @Megaproductions302
      @Megaproductions302 5 років тому +39

      LukeLlama it was messy yes but I don’t think all of it sucked. It’s visually gorgeous and the acting is great for the most part. And that speech by Grindelwald was bone chilling.

    • @ThisAdamGuy
      @ThisAdamGuy 5 років тому +21

      @@LuciferXFallen290 considering the massive plotholes between the books and the Fantastic Beasts movies that she doesn't even seem to notice, and the somewhat conservativism of the books compared to the politics she pushes now, I'm legitimately starting to wonder if she had the books ghostwritten.

    • @mentallyilldarkjeroid5378
      @mentallyilldarkjeroid5378 5 років тому +3

      The books were written by intelligence agencies. JK Rowling is just the Masonic face of it. Charles Giuliani talks about it on Renegade Broadcasting. Too much of an agenda in Harry Potter books, selling the attractiveness of secret societies to kids along with the concept of going off to school where the government raises you instead of your family. People need to buy up my James Grider novels on Etsy like "Impact" and "Dance of Death."

    • @LuciferXFallen290
      @LuciferXFallen290 5 років тому

      @@ThisAdamGuy Guess we'll never know

  • @paigetwitchell6433
    @paigetwitchell6433 4 роки тому +21

    Hold up, if a Phoenix appears to any Dumbledore in need, is Harry a Dumbledore? Fawkes appeared to Harry in the Chamber of Secrets

    • @marielarodriguezureta836
      @marielarodriguezureta836 2 роки тому +7

      I know I'm late,but Fawkes showed up because Harry was saying he was an ally to Dumbledore,and he too was in a time of need. Dumbledore himself says something along the lines of "You must have shown true loyalty to me in the Chamber for Fawkes to show up".

  • @greygalah
    @greygalah 5 років тому +9

    You missed the sin of Queenie's character flip, which made the Mother of Dragon's "i'm crazy now" seem believable.

    • @Kevo_-qu2wo
      @Kevo_-qu2wo 5 років тому +3

      And the fact that she, a character who can read minds, can't tell Grindewald is lying to her.

  • @kwaobi5806
    @kwaobi5806 5 років тому +52

    When are we getting Quidditch through the Ages?? That's a movie I'd wanna see.

    • @ThisAdamGuy
      @ThisAdamGuy 5 років тому +25

      And then it turns out to be about the Order of the Phoenix fighting Voldemort with hardly and Quidditch.

    • @saimcheeda93
      @saimcheeda93 5 років тому +22

      And then JK Rowling will reveal years later on Twitter that the Seeker was gay

    • @JohnGoetzGaming
      @JohnGoetzGaming 5 років тому +9

      Because only the snitch matters in 99.9% of the games

    • @kwaobi5806
      @kwaobi5806 5 років тому +1

      @@JohnGoetzGaming true but I wouldn't mind watching the Chudley Cannons epic return to glory

  • @imperialsarcasm
    @imperialsarcasm 5 років тому +68

    No one:
    Absolutely no one at all:
    J.K. Rowling: *publishes a random work taking place in the same universe that everyone said goodbye to years ago*

  • @Sereomontis
    @Sereomontis 5 років тому +25

    Ok... Well the very first sin (that isn't the logos) is you sinning that Grindelwald is killing a fly with some kind of magic instead of his hands.
    That's just not true. The people who imprisoned him have put some kind of field around him. The fly hit that field and got incinerated.
    I thought that was obvious, but apparently not.

    • @KidSnivy69
      @KidSnivy69 5 років тому

      Who cares? This movie is shit.

  • @morganpetts9608
    @morganpetts9608 5 років тому +67

    the alchemist is immortal because he's the philosopher's stone guy from the first book

    • @thoughtsofaleo2916
      @thoughtsofaleo2916 5 років тому +11

      Natalie Petts I don’t think the immortal thing was the sin, but the ex machina crystal ball Flamel had.

    • @willc236
      @willc236 5 років тому +29

      Yea, but what he said was “I’m an alchemist, so I am immortal” suggesting that all alchemists in the wizarding universe are just immortal for some reason. He should have said “I created the sorcerer’s stone, which makes me immortal”

    • @yougosquishnow
      @yougosquishnow 5 років тому

      Flammel

    • @jasonwhyttes1679
      @jasonwhyttes1679 5 років тому +12

      @@willc236 The point is, its lazy writing, like most of the movie.

    • @AnInkStick
      @AnInkStick 5 років тому +4

      Will C PHILOPSPHERS STONE.
      It is the actual name, as it was an object in mythology...phweee apologies that still annoys me.

  • @dankruew8641
    @dankruew8641 5 років тому +74

    You forgot that Dumbledore actually taught Transfiguration, not Defence Against the Dark Arts

    • @DigiDestined13
      @DigiDestined13 4 роки тому +4

      That was never stated in the films, so no, he didn't.

    • @declaenwainwright7091
      @declaenwainwright7091 4 роки тому +6

      @@DigiDestined13 It was legit stated in the books you dummy

    • @DigiDestined13
      @DigiDestined13 4 роки тому +8

      @@declaenwainwright7091 BOOKS DON'T MATTER IN A CINEMASINS VIDEO YOU DUMMY.

    • @justsomeunicornwithinterne6490
      @justsomeunicornwithinterne6490 4 роки тому +6

      DigiDestined13 bro, it still matters

    • @pato6738
      @pato6738 4 роки тому

      @@justsomeunicornwithinterne6490 it doesn´t

  • @kingezekiel6358
    @kingezekiel6358 5 років тому +27

    This movie is a good example of what happens when you let a book writer write a movie script.

    • @melvinshaw7574
      @melvinshaw7574 5 років тому +1

      You would think we'd have learned our lesson after Stephen King's _Maximum Overdrive_ but apparently not.

    • @kingezekiel6358
      @kingezekiel6358 5 років тому +1

      @@melvinshaw7574 i dont know this move but ye lol

    • @moneypool9997
      @moneypool9997 5 років тому

      I’d agree except she also wrote the Harry Potter’s scripts with the screenwriters and had final say for those films.

    • @Megaproductions302
      @Megaproductions302 5 років тому +2

      King Ezekiel Suzanne Collins had involvement in the Hunger Games films and those did pretty well. George Martin’s involvement in GOT is what made the series good until the show no longer had material and let two idiots do the writing. So that statement isn’t always true.

    • @ThisAdamGuy
      @ThisAdamGuy 5 років тому +2

      I don't think even that explains it. There are massive plot holes between the books and the new movies that Rowling has no excuse for letting through. I know she'll make some excuse on Pottermore later, but seriously, screw Pottermore. You don't get to change canon after the book/movie is released on a freaking website.

  • @carlamitce443
    @carlamitce443 5 років тому +10

    They did Queenie‘s character dirty, can’t change my mind! She was so pure in the first movie!

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 5 років тому +2

      Agreed, even though the movie tries to play Queenie drugging Jacob for laughs, it just felt eerily uncomfortable. Chances are that if that scenario involved a man bewitching his girlfriend into marrying him, the uproar would be aplenty!😣😮

  • @JayHog1992
    @JayHog1992 5 років тому +17

    The fact he memes himself with the intro joke won me over.

  • @realRatRat
    @realRatRat 5 років тому +40

    0:28
    1. Molly Weasley
    2. would you NOT use powers all the time if you could?

  • @chaoslord_craylos6669
    @chaoslord_craylos6669 5 років тому +50

    The reason they didn't say Avada Kadavra is because powerful wizards do not need to say the incantations. This is a known fact, shown in the fight of Voldemort against Dumbledore

    • @SpectralKnight
      @SpectralKnight 5 років тому +3

      Yeah but it has a chance of going awry when you don't so most people don't bother with complex stuff because they might accidentally blow themselves up or another random thing

    • @SpectralKnight
      @SpectralKnight 5 років тому +2

      It's also mentioned in the movies. And yeah apparently it can fail if you don't concentrate enough and insert random magical effect happens instead.

    • @chaoslord_craylos6669
      @chaoslord_craylos6669 5 років тому

      @@SpectralKnight I see, thank you. But still, it is possible. Just really hard. Meaning, someone as skilled as Grindelwald would have no problem doing it.

    • @muscles4817
      @muscles4817 5 років тому +1

      @@chaoslord_craylos6669 I'm pretty sure it wasn't Grindelwald who cast it either on the parents or the infant.

    • @SpectralKnight
      @SpectralKnight 5 років тому

      @@muscles4817 was it Bellatrix then? That would be something an insane person would do...

  • @DawnAQ
    @DawnAQ 5 років тому +91

    Wait, you’re saying a niffler montage is a bad thing!?! Heck, I want more nifflers! Have you SEEN those things?

    • @daisybtoes
      @daisybtoes 4 роки тому +1

      They are adorable furballs. We have five cats in my house, and believe me, they can get into as much mischief as any niffler. But I still love our cats, no matter how bad they are, how many atrocities they commit. It's much the same with mufflers.

    • @daisybtoes
      @daisybtoes 4 роки тому +1

      Typo: "...much the same with nifflers."

    • @Jess-mh8uu
      @Jess-mh8uu 3 роки тому +3

      I’m not a big fan of animals, but I would glady take in a niffler, the creatures in the Harry Potter/fantastic beasts universe are extraordinary

  • @owenchafer1083
    @owenchafer1083 5 років тому +31

    1. The force field, in the beginning, is used to contain him, it is not his own magic.
    2. Silent casting(Using a spell without the words) is a thing.
    3. The alchemist is Nicholas Flamel, the guy who created the philosophers stone in the first book/movie and is immortal because of it.

    • @yaerwang2509
      @yaerwang2509 4 роки тому +1

      Oh, you mean non-verbal spells?

  • @jennali9800
    @jennali9800 5 років тому +222

    I know this movie was objectively pretty bad, but I did genuinely enjoy it.
    Nice video as always :D

    • @markelcrawford8258
      @markelcrawford8258 5 років тому +10

      Irina Blitz yea I found it enjoyable too

    • @adrianb5735
      @adrianb5735 5 років тому +8

      I enjoyed it too

    • @mmarciac4879
      @mmarciac4879 5 років тому +22

      I think it's a really good example of, "Good characters can carry a bad plot, but bad characters can't carry a good plot".

    • @mxzephyr
      @mxzephyr 5 років тому +7

      I went to see it in the theater with my friends and enjoyed it as well.

    • @beribyuns
      @beribyuns 5 років тому +6

      I mean I did enjoy it, but when I saw it, I was just kinda confused half the time

  • @tommysadler1033
    @tommysadler1033 5 років тому +46

    The close ups are clever because they're awkward, so they convey how awkward Newt feels in social situations like that.

    • @taps03
      @taps03 5 років тому +9

      Tommy Sadler I guess but it was too awkward for me personally

  • @fatnuts5085
    @fatnuts5085 5 років тому +77

    Can we sin CinemaSins for that “meme” at the beginning

    • @emc246
      @emc246 5 років тому +6

      Yes, yes we can.
      *Ding*

    • @eternal2202
      @eternal2202 5 років тому +1

      yes

    • @sinisterwombat3128
      @sinisterwombat3128 5 років тому

      Yeah i mean what is this? a markiplier let's play?

    • @dukeofwisdom9118
      @dukeofwisdom9118 5 років тому

      No video is without sin not even the everything wrong with series

  • @FathersLoveWithoutEnd
    @FathersLoveWithoutEnd 5 років тому +21

    Honestly, this deserves way more than 20 minutes.

  • @almythical1096
    @almythical1096 4 роки тому +7

    0:00 every time I hear the *Everything Wrong With* sound drop, I get anxious knowing a movie I liked is gonna get ripped a new one.

  • @pixelbomb97
    @pixelbomb97 5 років тому +72

    Later CinemaSins will reveal on Twitter that Jeremy was actually gay for Newt and that's why he said he liked him as a character

    • @zoharsarig9474
      @zoharsarig9474 5 років тому +3

      Wouldn’t be surprised... have you SEEN Eddie Redmayne?!?

    • @waterspray5743
      @waterspray5743 5 років тому +3

      No, JK Rowling will do the honors.

    • @mr.farrowsclass6592
      @mr.farrowsclass6592 5 років тому

      I'm sure Micheal Bay rolling around in the billion dollars he made per transformers sequel doesn't lose any sleep because internet critique shows hate his work.

    • @enderlegasov
      @enderlegasov 5 років тому

      But his college girlfriend...

  • @douglassanchez6034
    @douglassanchez6034 5 років тому +54

    I call it, Captain Marvel for thursday.

  • @Tacobell1384
    @Tacobell1384 5 років тому +24

    So if dumbledore says that a Phoenix will come to any dumbledore that needs it and Faux dumbledore' pet Phoenix came to Harry in the chamber of secrets does that make Harry a dumbledore?

    • @daisybtoes
      @daisybtoes 4 роки тому +3

      This is one of the ways we know that a monstrous liar like Grindelwald is just feeding BS to a gullible, naive young man like Credence. He wants to make Credence fear and hate Dumbledore so that he can be tricked into doing Grindelwald's dirty work for him. The Phoenix story is a red herring.

    • @nizarfakhreifakh172
      @nizarfakhreifakh172 3 роки тому +10

      Or dumbledore sent his phoenix to harry

    • @_.Vanessa._
      @_.Vanessa._ 3 роки тому +4

      @@nizarfakhreifakh172 didn’t the Phoenix came to Harry because he was loyal to dumbledore in the chamber of secrets

    • @carlwheezerofsouls3273
      @carlwheezerofsouls3273 3 роки тому +2

      “will come to any dumbledore that needs it” now im just imagining a room full of large bearded men, all calmly asking harry some questions.

  • @tienattwater9878
    @tienattwater9878 5 років тому +26

    nobody:
    absolutely nobody:
    literally not a single person ever:
    not a single molecule in the history of existance
    J.K Rowling: *you are now gay*

    • @pnutz_2
      @pnutz_2 5 років тому +3

      "did you know that hagrid and dudley were in a secret lesbian relationship?"