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@@BenDaresAll Volleyball doesnt have any major appearances after that. The only time she appears after episode 4 is in "Everything is fine" and even then it's at the green house. So hydro kinda had the right to skip that.
@@Dxuser5 Hydro labelled other eps as filler but the Volleyball ep is an big step change, even if it's for another character. At the very least, Hydro should have acknowledged it.
@@9catzvr378 it was explained in Now We're Falling Apart that colonizing or invading planets kills planets. And also there's a presentation in Your Mother and Mine of how many planets White colonized.
@@9catzvr378 I will say it again, this show throws so much crap your way that you start to think about it, then it throws this drama arc, then you forget all that you were thinking about and start thinking about the arc
15:52 Is the most interesting concept in the entirety of this show. Steven realizes that no matter what awful things he does, he has the power to fix them, so it doesn't matter, and he will never have to learn. That sounds like the origin of a damn supervillain, and a remarkable one at that.
@@breadleymcthicc5444 for real and I bet pink diamond/rose would be that character that’s like what happened to you as if she didn’t cause this or something
@@Gemeuax the show kinda is about generational trauma lol. "But she only hurt you because I hurt her, just like how I hurt Yellow and Blue and everyone in the entire universe." - White Diamond on generational trauma
I related a lot to Steven this season. I helped raise my siblings, went to war, and was lost when all was said and done. I felt if I wasn't useful to anyone, I was a waste of life. From the beginning of the season, I recognized what he was going through. The desire for a semblance of normality with others you love, without endless shame. The sadness circlejerk at the end was peak awful, though. I didn't enjoy the message left for anyone like him.
So you’re saying you related to the series, the way Steven felt from the beginning till the end, but you’re saying you didn’t like the ending right? I think the show did an amazing job at closing Steven Universe’s universe. Steven Universe Future was my favorite season, more than the first five Steven Universe, even though the beginning felt like filler I’m pretty sure that for someone who has gone through a similar experience would understand the need for those moments in the beginning. I honestly liked the ending, don’t get me wrong, saying a hug fixes everything is wrong, but they didn’t try to say that, the hug was just a representation of their love for him, he felt like they didn’t need him anymore, and he felt that if he was useless then he had no purpose, and he thought of himself as a monster for not being able to cope with his trauma, but when they hugged, it screamed at him saying, “we love you unconditionally” that didn’t fix anything though, afterwards he started going to therapy, and went to go find himself. Even though I liked the ending, I still believe though that we have our own right to like or dislike the series, but we gotta remember that it’s not about us, this is what Rebecca Sugar wanted, and it’s her show, so we should be thankful and not criticize her.
@@josephcienfuegos5016the main problem with Steven universe future is that the writing was significantly wrose than both the movie and the other seasons like i get it,you want people to learn about mental health but I'm you can't do that if your rushing the plot,making both the lesson and the series garbage..i generally love Steven universe but this was embarrassing...even SONIC 06 had better writing that this show and that game came out in two thousand and six🤦i would at least ended the series with a cliffhanger rather than a badly written show
@@piretiris8223 still a lot of characters shouldn't been a thing at all as well as the lore. People are going to be interested in those things so if your not not going to explore those interesting things and characters don't put it in your story at all.
I don't know man, alot of the problems you see in this aren't really problems, they're really just irks I guess. For example, steven growing a beard is kind of directly tied to his he feels mentally. In one episode back, his body changed because of how he felt how old he was. He felt he was growing during his training with jasper, that's most likely why he started to look older. And him "shaving" is due to him reverting back to his younger self because he's shouldering yet again, alot of guilt. I just rewatched the entire show, it's pretty easy to catch on to alot of things when you remember it like the back of your hand.
Yeah! And the “he randomly projected his dream on the TV!? Random new power bad” like its the combination of 2 different concepts! 1) gems can alter TV signals, we see that with lapis in S1 and peridot in S2. We even see a similarity in the diamond fight/garnets wedding where steven like projected into the gem state or wtvr and said “we’re family” 2)Stevens mental state affects his powers. From when he felt old and he became old, when greg lied about his leg healing and steven was no longer confident and then couldn’t heal for a time. So when you combine those, it means bad feelings get projected onto the tv! Hell even in the og show pearl projected her dreams into a hologram! It takes remembering the bare minimum of the show to understand that lmao
He says there isn't an overarching plot but there actually is in most episodes: In the second one he tries to help everyone but fails, which causes him to think he is losing his ability to resolve everything and makes him rethink his purpose The roller rink portrays his inability to make real human friends and makes him realise that he isn't like a normal human at all and can't relate to them, cutting off a part of himself Cactus Steven shows him losing his friends and having a fear of losing new ones, so he starts planting but makes a living plant which he confines that he is losing faith in the people but it says it to those people and forces him to face his trauma Overall there is an actual overarching plot but instead of making it blatantly obvious there is one, it makes it way more subtle, each episode sneakily slipping in signs of different trauma and PTSD, and it also uses things that he learnt in his childhood to emphasize this. He rarely ever used to help himself and only helped others, that being his goal throughout all his time, but when there is no one to help he has no goal, and starts to feel empty, and the show shows that in different ways as he realizes he can't help people and starts to have his childhood trauma start making this sense of despair much worse, and this starts slowly effecting his mental and ( I think that the body swelling and stuff is actually representing when you are having a negative impact on your body) physical health, and no one around him helps, and some make it worse, which leads to him feeling alone and like he can't confinde in anyone which makes him feel even more depressed. And this is really shown as he begins to lose faith in the people around him and he begins to isolate himself, Cactus Steven emphasizes his fear of confindeing which is honestly just sad as he keeps all this stress and loneliness bottled up. Gosh, sorry I made this into an essay without even going into the ending episodes and saying about them, it was supposed to be short but I got carried away :-)
Let me point out that we had an episode in season 1 where steven uncontrollably changes his age based on his mindset. Guess that answers the beard growth with Jasper
@@pascalfernandes6957tbh still even if he’s not supposed to be silly and everyone’s knows that IT STILL SUCKS it was hella boring everyone is so emotional over dumb things and they barely mention the plot of him losing sanity since they keep switching up why he is going insane. It was also hella cringey
@@pascalfernandes6957 ‘stevens *silly* issues’ ayo dont call someones emotions silly, emotions are emotions. i know stevens a fictional character but people can actually relate to his emotions
The best use of filler episodes ever. It's so cool that the theme of this is that Steven is meant to save everyone, and then realizes that the happily ever after never really came. He repressed all of this build up of trauma and saving he alone had to do for everyone around him just because he was unlucky enough to have his mothers gem. She wasn't bad either, it's just frustrating that he has to deal with what she started, and had to be there in it's core from start to finish instead of being a human kid who enjoyed life..hence why he goes to college at the end.
The plot of the show is to clearly be a more adult and serious look on the effects of trauma and the ways that it hides in your mind and body. Steven's growths are a subconscious aspect of his trauma showing through his body. The show is attempting to use character, and character design in order to show the dangers of trauma and what it can do to a person if left unchecked. Steven shattering Jasper is something that is fixable because it demonstrates the idea that people with trauma will mask their negative behavior, whether that's self-destructive or harmful to others, with righting their wrongs as they make them before anyone can see the true damage they're doing to themselves or others. If there is an aspect of this series you don't understand as to why the creators did what they did, the most likely reason is to show character. Why does Steven think that proposing to Connie? Because he's insecure about who he is, so he relies on someone else to do the heavy lifting. This is a pretty common tactic among people in general, not just those with ptsd or mental illnesses. The way Connie's mother talks about trauma is one of the most accurate and realistic portraits I have seen. And there is probably better, but when she talks about how Steven's body is reacting to minor circumstances as if it's the end of thr world - I personally really connected with that. I saw myself in that phrasing. It's brilliant they were able to take such an extreme topic and display it in a way that makes it for anyone of any age an easy time to understand.
Me to in future when he got back to normal or maybe while being a kaiju he could maybe had talked to her or rose and this time from the heart and not fake
Sardonicus this, like half of Rose’s whole point as a character is that she doesn’t get to come back and fix everything, everyone else has to deal with it on their own
Pov : steven universe future doesnt have a plot, it just shows what happened after he saved the world. He helped everyone but no one bothered to help him.
THANK YOU. People claim they watched SUF but they don't understand this VERY SIMPLE AND CLEAR concept, and then proceed to blame the show and its makers.
Can’t agree more, This show is pretty much an interlude. I feel like this video is a little petty. The way the show is explained by him seems heavily in bad faith.
18:52 nah, hug can help someone. Its not going to cure people 100% but hugs can give some happy and safe feelings for a moment, that's more than enough for me
Yes you have a point, But it is more like a power of friendship because White Diamond clearly states that the pink monster is no longer Steven, But like any mindless beast in each cartoon/movies. But it would be more logical for white Diamond to say, Steven is still there/conscious, But he's a mindless beast/corrupted gem. But that is all I got to make it hype/good
and that's why i love the hug thing because the whole corrupted steven thing is just a massive mental breakdown from all the built up stress from his life and the hug doesn't cure him 100% it just helps him calm down and realize that he ISNT okay. he even mentions how he goes to therapy in the final episode
i feel like at the end with the "group hug thingy" steven started crying because he realized how many people were supportive and cared for him. As we know he felt like everyone saw him in his past self. When he saw that everyone HE cared about were finally listening to him, it made him feel better in a way. Sometimes you just need to feel seen or heard or just have a good cry. NO HATE BTW
Steven universe future was not bad I think it was just aimed for a older audience than the first show also it was supposed to be a ending to the show I liked it a lot tbh
I mean, I didn't like future either, but a lot of this just felt so... nitpicky. Like yeah, future sucked, but it didn't suck because Steven "shaved" after shattering Jasper.
There is actually going to be a steven universe 2. Were steven is an adult and after a couple of episodes he meets the gems and also the world is halfed his dad died I dont know where is lapis but peridot and bismut what also there. Other gems started to become corrupted again. The diamonds look different and spinel..... she is again so evil so mean. And at the last episode of steven universe 2. He has kids and a family so... (spoiler alert). Also I dont know were connie is!? And pink diamond is back... she wasn't actually shattered. She has amnesia.. but I cant tell you the rest... steven universe 2. Probably coming ate December or next year
@@thexylophone There is actually going to be a steven universe 2. Were steven is an adult and after a couple of episodes he meets the gems and also the world is halfed his dad died I dont know where is lapis but peridot and bismut what also there. Other gems started to become corrupted again. The diamonds look different and spinel..... she is again so evil so mean. And at the last episode of steven universe 2. He has kids and a family so... (spoiler alert). Also I dont know were connie is!? And pink diamond is back... she wasn't actually shattered. She has amnesia.. but I cant tell you the rest... steven universe 2. Probably coming ate December or next year
@@dragonempress8367 There is actually going to be a steven universe 2. Were steven is an adult and after a couple of episodes he meets the gems and also the world is halfed his dad died I dont know where is lapis but peridot and bismut what also there. Other gems started to become corrupted again. The diamonds look different and spinel..... she is again so evil so mean. And at the last episode of steven universe 2. He has kids and a family so... (spoiler alert). Also I dont know were connie is!? And pink diamond is back... she wasn't actually shattered. She has amnesia.. but I cant tell you the rest... steven universe 2. Probably coming ate December or next year
Steven's proposal to Connie seemed like a desperate attempt to prevent Connie form leaving him. He did not think about how a life changing decision like that could affect her future, and I think that shows how broken on the inside Steven was.
I hated how Steven treated Connie in Future and he never apologises for it or acknowledges he mistreated her. *"I CANNOT BE AROUND YOU RIGHT NOW!!!"* - is toxic as hell.
@@PlanetZoidstar simply putting my opinion, I disagree. He’s sacrificed himself for Connie and her response was to make him feel bad and steal Lion. He needed help, she didn’t, and whenever she got upset, he felt bad. She was pretty awful to him, actually. Maybe I’m biased, but he shouldn’t apologize for not being mentally okay when he’s been through so much trauma AND he had to fix other people’s problems 24/7 from a young age. I don’t think I should apologize when I have breakdowns, so he shouldn’t either.
@@dreamt0wn739 Not being mentally okay is no excuse for treating someone horribly. That is a toxic mindset that can be used to excuse abuse. But I agree in that instance you gave Connie was in the wrong. Even if the show refuses to acknowledge it.
@@PlanetZoidstar thing is, he didn’t treat anyone horribly. He needed support, he was confused, he didn’t understand that he probably just needed the extra care, and tried to push people away so they didn’t help him. He was in a really bad state of confusion and stress, so I believe he was not wrong for ‘being toxic’ And honestly, more often than not, I see any human emotions that people don’t want to deal with whether they’re anger, sadness, grief, depression, anxious, or any other ‘negative’ emotions or behaviors mislabeled as toxic. If someone’s angry, and someone else doesn’t agree with why they’re angry, they’re toxic. If someone needs any emotional accommodations, toxic. Idk, it’s not a fair label. I know the difference between abuse and not being nice to someone, and that’s on having gone through mental abuse, physical abuse, and other stuff. That’s just my opinion based on my experiences.
@@dreamt0wn739 Thing is, Steven did mistreat Connie in Future. He tried to pressure her into marrying him out of the blue, and when he didn't get the answer he felt entitled to he threw a pity party and Garnet had to comfort him. That's toxic entitled behaviour to expect the person you care about will just say "yes" and then having a hissy fit when they say "no". Then when she shows up and is clearly worried that he's having a meltdown, he screams in her face for her to leave. I've had emotional breakdowns before but I never let that make me scream in the faces of the people I care about and care about me. The fact Steven never apologises for that is especially toxic and it's never brought up again. It's okay to be angry, but it's not okay to take that anger out on other people. You are allowed to have moments of weakness, vulnerability and stress, but the moment you start taking it out on the people around you, you're the problem. It doesn't help that this all started when Steven tried to pressure Connie into marrying him and her turning him down is part of why he breaks down later at the hospital. I am sorry that you've had to deal with similarly stressful and anxious times before, but it seems you're just trying to justify that it's okay to use that as an excuse to hurt people. That you are not ultimately responsible for how you process your problems or who you lash out at because of them. You take issue with Connie feeling betrayed and leaving, but when it's Steven who is feeling hurt, suddenly he's innocent in all of this. Connie never meant to hurt Steven by rejecting his proposal, she was 14 and clearly far too young for such a commitment. Depending on where Beach City is, Steven was likely too young, and you need parental consent regardless. It was a dumb idea born from his selfish entitlement and fear of her going away, he wanted to shackle himself to Connie at all times and take away her right to privacy. That is what makes his meltdown later toxic.
I hate how it was advertised as a continuation to the movie but ended up being about Steven struggling with mental health and turning pink. It had so many opportunities to answer unanswered mysteries but didn't even give us an answer to why Steven turned pink which was basically the whole story of the steven universe future series. I wish they just made the movie the finale
I've experienced trauma and I have to say that what Steven goes through in SU:Future is showing it's audience the steps of denial, fear, anger and self harm that people go through. If I'd been writing the show then Lapis Lazuli would have been the one who fixed Steven, not Jasper. She understood the condition better than anyone. A.G.
9:59 I feel like they really wanted a scene that mirrored the first episode, but to show how much Steven’s mental health has deteriorated, but they couldn’t figure out an idea past jasper coming back from being SHATTERED, which completely removes any consequences it might’ve once had
The handling of Jasper makes me so mad. She got all this buildup outside the show in interviews as a tragic, traumatized figure, then she just gets stuck as the show’s punching bag.
Honestly, THE CRYSTAL GEMS are the reason Steven didn't have a childhood (school, medical, ect.) It is not Greg's fault, his own son was kinda wrongfully kidnapped after the loss of his alien wife. Then said kidnappers refused to even have Greg in Steve's life most of the time or in the house that should be his too. Its pretty depressing Greg didn't get to be a father or watch his son grow on an intimate level and thats NOT his fault.
Steven wasn’t kidnapped by the gems? Unless you’re talking about that one episode but Greg got Steven back. Steven only started living with the gems around right before season one of Steven universe started
@@SerperiorChaos I mean... did he actually or was he literally raised as if he was her replacement and savior of the Gems? He literally didn't even have a friend his own age until Connie. Just, no.
@@stevengosnell7034 Cool. Their whole shtick was probably cus Steven had enough time as a human from ages 1-12 so once he was old enough, it was time for him to discover his Gem side of things. If you still think it's immoral, then ok. His life is weird af anyways.
this took longer to make. probably because you didn't pay attention to the MEANING of SUF XD or just didn't pay attention to all the trauma poor steven went through in the show.
I honestly would have preferred it if Jasper STAYED shattered. Imagine, a gem that didn't want to bow to Steven's wishes, even when everyone around her, has, she has a refusal to change her ways. Then, when Steven comes to her for help, she helps in a way that Steven never dreamed of. Then, in a duel, Steven shatters her. A gem that Steven wanted to get better, one of the only loose ends that he himself wanted to redeem...gone. Steven would have to live with this, The fact that he shattered someone would make his mental illness much worse.
I agree with this. Jasper didn’t really do much for the plot after fragments so her staying shattered would’ve made it less anticlimactic since the whole point of shattering is dying and not coming back
@@justinran1693 I wishbit at least retained the impact. Like she stayed "dead" until the very end of the show or so.ething and then they figure out to try the diamond essence or whatever. Still would be fine if the stayed dead though.
Adding on to this, the idea of shattering set consequences in the show. It helped form tension and a real sense of danger Then they started fixing shattered gems and the sense of danger was gone. The show lost it's consequences If that makes sense
Idk, it'd be really impactful, but they would have had to go a lot bigger with the finale for Steven feeling okay with himself after permanently murdering someone to feel right. Idk if they could make it feel right, that's something he really should feel terrible about. And there'd be a lot of people hating on the show for turning Steven into an irredeemable monster or whatever. Having Jasper come back and call Steven "my diamond" was great imo, it played into his fears and was such an "oh shit" moment.
Honestly I loved it because that's reality you dont always get your high-school sweetheart and they break your heart and sometimes you don't figure yourself out and live in a van your whole life like Steven's dead beat father who was clearly broken to losing his love to basically child birth, but you know what? Everyone did love him and sometimes family, friends and lovers are the cause of your ptsd and that takes time and growing and forgiveness to do. I would love to see them make another season where he travels and finds himself and explores out on his own path.
OK I agree with you mostly. But Greg is far from a deadbeat. Why do you think he lives in a van most of the series? quite literally most of the money he makes from his car washing job pays for Steven's house and bills. And courts aren't forcing him to do that he does so because he wants to. The reason why he does not live with Steven is because he's partially afraid of him and partially afraid of the crystal gems. Plus he had lived by a parenting philosophy of not wanting To be in your kids face all the time. That being said he lives just down the street from Steven and they hang out all the time. In fact Greg is probably Stevens closest human friend. Sorry to go off on a tangent but after all the Peter Griffin's and Homer Simpson's Stan Smiths and Hank Hills, Greg is so refreshing as one of the only cartoon dads I've ever seen that is actually a good father even if he doesn't have his life together.
as someone who suffers from c-ptsd (this show came out not too long after i got diagnosed), i actually liked how they did this show. the whole “nothing happens” episodes where steven freaks out over minor inconveniences shows how his brain is wired to think that every problem could possibly be the end of the world bc in the past that’s how it was. he doesn’t know how to cope in a world where nothing is going on. also him seeing people gems that looked like his mom reminds me of how often times i see certain people in others/think i see certain people out of the corner of my eye and yeah it’s pretty intense. anyways i get how it can seem boring and disappointing, but i really appreciate how it shows c-ptsd (no matter how simply) and what it can do to your brain. great video btw! i like seeing other people’s perspectives!
Thank you for sharing your opinion! I personally also think it's good at showing other certain things that I can connect to my own experiences with mental illness including my depression which can get swept under the rug because "you're too young what could you possibly be sad about" but its awesome seeing other peoples thoughts on the show because of how mental health centered it is.
watching the whole SUF, i can really appreciate the boring-ness of the last season. If you pay close attention to details, steven is always finding someone to help or finding something to get busy with. As we may know, steven has c-ptsd and these can be subtle. I think of this as some coping mechanism steven has for his traumas. If i’m to be asked, the last season isn’t disappointing, it really shows a lot
exactly. suf wasnt meant to be like su the movie, it was about the long lasting effects of what steven experienced throughout the franchise. the first few episodes had nothing going on because it was meant to let us see into Steven's psyche and witness it going down a slippery slope. it's not everyone's cup of tea and it doesnt help that it was cut short by the execs .
I agree whole heartedly. I wanted to see why its bad from someone elses perspective but i can't see eye to eye. Skip certain parts in my life and this was a great euphemistic representation of myself and what trauma does to a person. Which i like when a show or game explores after their characters experience events that would be traumatic to certain people. Why i like SUF so much
I just think this is a season for the people who want more of the characters living life. This isnt a season for the people who want big over arching plot points.
Yeah, they TRIED to pull some plot ideas like introducing new villains, that, however, meant less than a grass blade. They could just *not* do so if what you said was the case, but they did. And it turned out so attrocious.
@@Ajepeajlwwjdmaoweeow I don’t think those villains were supposed to be more than a grass blade. SUF just isn’t told in the typical hero vs villain epic story. It’s rather a more realistic slice of life, which emulates how the beginning of the series was like. We already had our great story in the original series, and Rebecca Sugar said herself that they told the story that they wanted to tell. SUF isn’t a SU season 6, it’s a slice of life spin off that shows a different side to the world of SU.
I think you're misunderstanding that steven universe wasn't really about continuing with what happened in the movie and the original show but rather showing that he had serious shit wrong with him and he needed help and to learn how to fix it, even the episode you mentioned as a "filler episode" with rainbow quartz and sunstone wasn't actually a filler episode because it still dealt with that theme of figuring out how to cope with things and finding out how to manage everything because he realized he couldn't do everything like people expected of him and that episode with spinel, the whole point of that episode was to show that he and everyone finally realize that they couldn't just depend on steven because he also had problems but they couldn't help him because they all got their help *from him* and he couldn't exactly talk to himself because he didn't know how to help himself and in the episode after that steven is denying everything *on purpose* because he didn't properly learn how to cope with things, I'm gonna put a link to a video that I think really helps explain why he didn't ever learn how to actually deal with things (ua-cam.com/video/4_vveDpuk14/v-deo.html)
We were supposed to get a Rhodonite backstory, but Rebecca thought it didn't fit with the plot. Yes Rebecca "A Very Special Episode" DEFINITELY fits with the plot.
I’m sure they could’ve squeezed it in Little Graduation. Instead of Steven talking to Jenny, he could’ve talked to Rhodonite. Maybe saying how everyone was looking forward, but he was looking back and transitioning it into her backstory, even if brief.
@@buddygibson1207 That is not a valid reason. Rebecca had time to plan out her episodes. Remember that they take multiple long hiatus. Steven Universe Future is filled with bad writing and she could've paced her episodes properly.
They did Jasper so damn dirty. For years I was waiting for Jasper to make a big comeback, for her to get a redemption arc as great as Peridot's. But in the end, she didn't change at all. If she did get better, that would have happened off-screen, which is incredibly stupid. The final season ruined the entire show to me and completely shat on my fav character.
+Tiktoktree-It's pretty clear the writers don't like Jasper very much and probably only brought her back because the fans were begging for it. And honestly, I didn't want Jasper to get the FRIENDSHIP treatment but how she was handled wasn't that stellar either. She's still angry all the time, and they don't really do anything with that. You get the implication that she's lost, confused, doesn't know what to do anymore now that she knows that Pink Diamond is Rose. Her creator, her "mother" is her greatest enemy and caused her greatest suffering. All the pain she ever suffered through. And with The Diamonds dismantling the Empire, Jasper is no longer required to be the "perfect Quartz" solider either. So what can she do? Who can she be now? And the show doesn't really do anything with that. At all. Steven's way of approaching her and trying to help her is to. .. feed into her nasty temper. . .Okay. . .Why? Steven taking lessons from Jasper has potential but they never do anything with it. And she makes him so mad that he straight up kills her. . .And when he magically revives her back to life, she develops Stockholms and swears absolute loyalty to "her Diamond." And that's the last you see of her until the last episode. It's IMPLIED she got better, off screen, because she's at Little Homeworld now. When at the beginning of the season, she refused to live among the other Gems and wanted to be by herself. And when Steven tells her he's leaving, she gets so upset that she knocks a hole in the wall. So she will miss him. But given that the last time Steven saw her, he straight up killed her, you can't see anything but a disturbing Stockholms where she wants to please Steven and do whatever he wants. Steven was the one who asked her to come join Little Homeworld. And there's no indication she came there for any reason other than because it's what Steven wanted. She swears undying fealty to him and telling her that he's leaving is only going to upend and traumatize her even more. And she's proven to be so violent, unstable, and unable to live with others that there's no indication she's not a constant danger to all the Gems around her. He just leaves and expects the Crystal Gems to pick up the mess.
@@feraflauna3238I would say the writers don't dislike Jasper and that they wanted to bring Jasper back and to use her for something and they did but really main thing that I wished that happened was that they showed Jasper interact more with some other gems at the end of future. well now Jasper is just doing her own thing pretty neutral. Steven tried to get her to leave at that point to not be dependent on him but stockholm syndrome? steven didn't really capture Jasper or anything that's more likely if anything lapis may have developed that or jasper with lapis but Jasper was glad that there was someone stronger then her who she can serve was all as that's what her job was so she didn't develop Stockholm for Steven with Jasper she still seems neutral I feel like she may try to interact with some more gems but that should have been shown on screen really.
@@ohno4192 Sure, but some of those interpretations are going to be just inaccurate. The video essayist shared a fair few of takes that are just ones I personally disagree with, but still have validity. But for example he said it's bad writing that Steven says that everything he's going through currently is his own fault because he doesn't learn from his mistakes is a misinterpretation of the scene, because earlier in the show Connie's mom said that his body was reacting negatively to trauma. This is a misinterpretation because the video essayist thought Steven saying this meant the writers just CHANGED why Steven's having these reactions, when in reality Steven saying this is supposed to show that he's having an emotional meltdown and isn't thinking rationally. This isn't a difference of opinion or something subjective, this is just flat out misreading the scene, and dubbing it a bad scene because of that doesn't feel valid.
@JUSTAMEME ! Hydro's more than welcome to not like the show, but I'm allowed to point out that he misunderstood the point of a lot of scenes in the show
My problem is with the group hug and how he said “all your problems can be solved with a freakin group hug”, All his problems weren’t solved, that just helped him calm down in the moment, it takes him getting therapy and spending time on himself for him to actually get begter
@@Robtop-ml4sv Or because we don't need to. We know he is getting therapy, and it's talked about naturally, destigmatized. And because there were no longer time ?
Seriously, I know this is stupid, but part of me had a theory that when Steven left at the end of home world bound, he wanted to go somewhere to just be alone. And he would need to pick a place that no one really knew about. A far away place that no one would think to look for him at. And once he left his sandal at home world, I took this as hope that my theory would come true. I felt like the diamonds would go to Earth sooner and ask the gems where Steven was. Together, they would brainstorm something like “He’d want to go someplace where he can be alone. A place where no one would think to come to.” And then Spinel would realize where he was and say to everyone that she thinks she knows where he is. Then the diamonds would offer to go with her and she would quietly say that she has to do this alone. And then, she would take the warp to the garden. Once she got there, she would experience a mixture of emotions, almost wanting to turn back as the trauma returns to her. But then, (and this would be a great moment to show her character development of not only moving on but also letting things go which is completely unlike how she started ((being the clingiest gem I can think of)), she would remember that she was free from all of that trauma thanks to Steven. And she would inhale and then walk around until she found steven crying. Spinel would say his name out loud. Steven would look up at her, mostly sad but also surprised that she came for him, even tho this was the last place that she wanted to be. And together, they would talk and figure the rest out together. This would be a much better storyline because not only does it give Spinel massive character development, but it also would be a great follow up to the movie so at least 1 episode of the series would be worth the wait to watch. Thank you if you’ve read all this :)
I disagree heavily with your view on this season and honestly it sounds like all you want is explosions and drama throughout every episode please correct me if I'm wrong😶😐😐
remember on Mr.Greg where Greg and Steven where singing about what they could do with the money and Greg says:"I could pay your college" and Steven sorta says: "I'm with the gems,i don't have to",they just erased this fact like Greg wanted to give him a chance and he was like "Nah,i'm good" and then he's all like "iT'S yOuR fAuLt,i cOuLd hAvE gOtTeN tO sChOoL",also Greg didn't had much money so he couldn't pay a school for Steven even if he wanted to,i think he wanted
eh....I think before he could pay for school for steven just never did. as for college....that could still happen and may happen at some point that was just what steven said back then. also doens't change what he said about the doctor's either
When the movie was coming out, me and my sister were so excited but then we heard they swtiched it to a musical we were really losing hope for the movie that itd be bad but it was actually way better then we expected
Ok first of all, Greg's reaction to Steven by saying "I'm proud of you" is surprisingly in character for him, which is exactly why Steven starts to have static in his ears and muting Greg out because that exact attitude is what he blames Greg for. So I found it hauntingly perfect the way it played out because Steven already started to blame Greg, but this just adds fuel to the already burning fire. Also Spinel changing is kinda validated due to her being exposed to the Diamonds who provided her with superficial benefits such as makeovers (Yellow), substances, I mean literal dopamine drugs (Blue) and letting it out on someone else (White)
Still doesnt matter, spinel if anything should grow to be smart, and not idiotic when it comes to others feelings, ESPECIALLY when Steven mirrors the desperateness that spinel has expressed. She has absolutely no right to do Steven like that, she became a hypocrite and absolutely oblivious towards steven. She means well of course but I don't think spinel should've "sang" to him, she should've actually helped him by giving her own personalized advice, or at least SYMPATHY.
@@pastelsploosh8914 Okay but Gems take far longer to change and mature than humans, especially an emotionally stunted/traumatized overgrown toddler (Spinel) who is now living with beings whose emotional maturity does not far greatly exceed her own (the diamonds)
@@emilyjones6875 if you use that logic and apply it to SU:F (which is a year probably from the movie) then her reverting to her old self is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE. taken your logic being that gems take much longer to mature and to grow and spinel growing with diamonds (who are absolutely not similar to pink in any possible way, being immature and bratty when she was still with pink) she should've matured at least a TINY bit from her interactions with the diamonds, and still be going through abandonment issues and not being ignorant to the problems steven is facing. If you take it as a human level of growth then it might be possible with the powers (for example: blue diamonds clouds) to account. But even that, empathy is never shown in spinel at all, and she shouldn't be oblivious since steven specifically asked how she moved on. Stevens change song might be motivation, but she needs a hella wake up call when it comes to personal space and look around the room when it specifically comes to abandonment and how she treats others. Her treating steven with kisses and hugs while comedic would be unrealistic.
@@pastelsploosh8914 Seriously, they made spineless stupid and uncooperative and unable to help, even though out of everyone in the series she should understand and be able to help steven
@@cbell1446 compared to the movie and the show, the show made her look so displeasing to look at. The movie made her look semi consistent throughout the movie, while in the show she has eyelashes, longer face, and overall look absolutely stiff. I think thats an artistic nitpick but either way, even for me, i knew that her art style declined when the show was aired, everyone else did not have the same problem except spinel.
@@Raya-ir4tm She gets good ideas and has no clue of how to execute any of them or have them naturally flow together, but she is good at making filler about unimportant background characters
10:48 He didn’t shave…his aging power. During his time of training, he felt powerful, which made him feel older. But once he killed jasper, he went back to normal(for whatever reason). Being able to control his age was one of his first powers introduced :3
In case you didn't notice, rebecca sugar no longer writes or storyboards or approves any of the episodes anymore, she is still a GENIUS, the new writers are the monkes. (if you need more proof, the last one she directed was the movie, which is... AMAZING!!!)
@@thejawajester9975 Even in regular Steven universe, there was too much filler for the amount of time taken between each new set of episodes. Don't go away for a year and come back with filler. That's disrespectful.
My theory: This show was rushed, and cartoon network tried to flush out the good things in the show for various reasons. Something happened. Someone did something. I don't know what it is, but something happened-
Actually this is 100% true in the second art book of the series Rebecca reveal that the series was canceled during the production of ruby and sapphire’s wedding so that’s why the original series ending felt rushed but Cartoon Network decided to greenlight the movie and because the movie was greenlight cartoon network was like "if this movie happens then we'll give your more show because movie promotes show"
It would have been better if the season would be mainly about Spinel. Like after she was taken by the diamonds, they should have shown how Spinel was trying to adjust right after what she did to Steven and his friends and his planet. For example at episode one, Spinel struggles on having a short temper and gets mad at the diamonds for not having time to play with her or reminding her about pink, much like that. Then on episode two, she calls Steven for help so that he could help her to control her emotions and apologize to the diamonds, and the end of the first plot. Then on episode three, there would be an antagonist whether it would be Black diamond or Red diamond or Emerald etc, who was just selfish and greedy for power like most villains does and so on. Hope you like my idea after I recently rewatched the movie and repeat to the point when Spinel showed up then skip the Cringy parts and only watched the scene of her and her song especially the drift away that I listened overnight. And Spinel should always appear in all episodes without absences like in season 6 or Future. Where there's only two episodes that Spinel appeared.
I was pretty ticked off that we didn’t get any pink pearl and spinel scenes or white mentioning pink pearl and how she regretted her actions Edit: holy shit i forgot i made this and it kinda blew up, and I didn’t know they didn’t have time. And im explaining that white and pink pearl having a one on one talking about pink or steven talking to white about pink, seeking more about his mother.
White talking about Pink Pearl satisfactorily would require developing her from her reluctance to call other gems equals to "being a voice for the Little Gem." If you ask me, she might not even regret it.
The one thing about the end that gives me some “oh that makes sense” is the fact that a lot of people who goes thru trauma ( obviously not as extreme as Steven) will most times blame them selves making the line about not learning and being a monster actually reflect how many people also respond to Trauma like PTSD
Don’t Give Rebecca Sugar the crap that this was a bad show. It didn’t Run with with Rebecca Directing. When the movie was finished Cartoon Network was like “YES WE NEED MORE STORIES AFTER THE MOVIE” and Rebecca did NOTHING all she did was Give the idea at SDCC 2019 and Cartoon Network just pretended Rebecca was in charge. That’s why the Written SO DIFFERENT
As someone who seriously relates to Spinel’s struggles and views and such, the ending of the movie was so wonderful. It made me feel like it’s ok that I’m not always stable, and that even if I’m not perfect I’m deserving of love. Spinel’s appearance in Steven Universe Future was like a slap to the face. It was so invalidating because all her development at the end of the movie was just *thrown away.*
Eris Cook How was her development “thrown away”? She was only acting the way she did in the movie because she was basically lashing out at whatever she could, and by the end of the movie she basically gotten what she actually wanted, which was affection and loyal companionship, since the Diamonds basically adopt her. So why *WOULDN’T* she act the way she does in Future? She never actually hated being the friendly goofball she was before, in fact she has hinted numerous times throughout the movie that she hated the way she was acting, so it was clear that what she wanted in the end was to have fun with others again instead of being a broken lunatic that wants to destroy everything. Which is a desire that’s *fulfilled now.* Unlike Pink, the Diamonds show no signs of wanting to discard her so she has what she wants. And while she triggered Steven that’s not because she’s “stupid” or out of character. He asked her how she stopped being vengeful and she responds by singing back his advice about making a change, basically communicating that his advice helped her, which annoyed him but she didn’t realize that because she lacks social skills and grace in that area, something the movie had shown repeatedly to have issues with, I mean she literally invaded Steven’s personal space and was shown to be rather clingy. And what happened wasn’t even her fault, he’s not in a good place right now and by this point all of the Diamonds have unintentionally triggered him in some way, but Steven isn’t really communicating what he is going through so obviously they aren’t going to magically understand what he needs right now. They don’t know how to handle this situation. And it’s likely that she did learn from what happened with Pink and isn’t as gullible as she was before, but there’s obviously not much ways to show that since, again, she has companions who enjoy her company now and won’t discard her on a whim. Her development wasn’t thrown away, you just didn’t understand her character.
Ryan Carson Spinel is heavily BPD coded, and clearly severely traumatized. I know from experience those things aren’t something you can just get over in a couple months or even a couple of years. No matter what desire has been fulfilled, the trauma and disorder are still there. It’s honestly kind of insulting that it’s played off as Spinel just being a clingy and toxic person who magically gets better the moment she get love. The abandonment issues never leave. The anger never leaves. The constant need to push others away before they hurt you never leaves. People with *severe* mental illnesses like BPD, or even trauma can’t always control the way they act, and they certainly can’t control the way they feel. Serious therapy is needed. The reason a lot of people relate to her is because of that. She didn’t instantly get better at the end of the movie just like I will never fully recover. It hurt to have that stripped away.
Ryan Carson Also, also, please don’t use the word lunatic when referring to her behavior. She’s coded with a serious mental disorder whether Rebecca meant to code her like that or not. People with the disorder aren’t fully in control of their feelings, and disregarding their actions as just being a lunatic is horrible. I’m working on getting a diagnosis myself. You don’t know what kind of hell it is to deal with.
One of my least favorite things about Future, besides the finale, is the fact that Steven tried to murder White Diamond in cold blood and it never gets mentioned again. You can't just attempt to murder the leader of the gem empire and pretend it never fucking happened.
He didn’t try to murder white, he was trying to injure himself or more specifically his gem (or Rose, /Pink) for everything she’s put him through. He’s able to control people with he’s extremely emotional so when he started controlling white it was just a reflection of his own emotional state, being anger towards the life Rose/Pink left for him
The worst episodes of Steven in to the future are #1 Stevens father Greg not meeting with his parents and Steven not to get to know them. #2 Sadie not apologizing to her mom and keeping a distance between her and her mom and not even apologizing to her mom and I know your mom can be embarrassing but still she’s still her mom and you just can’t keep people away.
I actually have to say, as a parent, Greg telling Steven he's proud is just his unconditional love shining through. He swore he wouldn't be a controlling dictator like his parents. He's expressing to Steven that even at his very, very worst, he loves him and that he'll always be a safe place. It's one of the very few Future moments I admire.
Loving your child doesn't mean that you should be "proud" of everything they do, especially when they nearly just killed you in a rage. But as the other person replied, I feel that only works if greg actually raised steven, which he didn't. He was barely around and didn't even know the danger that steven was getting into until like the end of season 2 or season 3. Even afterwards, he let his underage child go fight alien overlords instead of fighting harder to keep him away from danger after steven ran from him and got abducted the first time.
no, greg definitely should've just apologized for never being like a real human father to steven, steven could have gone to school and the doctor if greg let him. Yeah he needed to save the universe but his father still should have been with him more. especially since he basically had no mother and 3 siblings that never understood human feelings
In "Fragments", steven looks like he has aged because he also has the ability to change his age based on his emotions. But what makes it worse, is that the only time this power was used, WAS IN THE FIRST SEASON!!!! AND IT WAS NEVER BROUGHT UP AGAIN UNTIL NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cant see any useful situations that he could use that,he can just change his body age its not like he gets a massive boost of power using that ability
I liked Steven Universe Future . I think there was a lot of meaningful plot. Yes, there was no outright globe-threatening danger Steven and the Crystal Gems have band together against, instead, I think the show was a lot more psychological as Steven deals with the trauma of his childhood. You can see this in the opening sequence - white diamond is shown as more open and happy, yet her specter still haunts the intro. Each of the episodes address trauma in some way, sometimes taking multiple episodes to express the ramifications of the arc. For example, episode 4 deals with "Volleyball's" literal trauma due to the violence she experienced with Pink Diamond manifested in a wound on her face. As Steven and Pearl help "Volleyball," not only does Pearl and Volleyball reconcile some of their hardships with Pink, but Steven heals some of the complex relationship he has with his mother, Rose. With Greg, we see his own trauma considering the way his parents raised him and his subsequent inability to discipline Steven in episode 15--- his eyes strained in his optimistic, carefree parenting as the sound of the episode drowns out with Steven feeling stuck with the knowledge that his father is unable to help him. I think they even addressed this in the show. At one point, somebody (i forget who) gives the advice that you need conflict in order to keep a story going. The show obviously doesn't do this, and instead turns to a new mode of storytelling, something which might bore viewers. I didn't really like Steven Universe Future's depiction of Homeworld, yet I think this was purposeful. There's a flattening of all the characters in Homeworld, including Spinel, because they're not really his family, but instead are Pink's. Additionally, White's confession is laughably bad, because Rebecca wants us to know White is not redeemed. The diamonds' existence in Steven's life, while technically his family, are like the distant inlaws trying to make a change but not really well liked still due to the aura of bs they've spouted, and are really more abstractly tied to his mom than Steven. And the show has a great solution to the intense episodes long buildup of Steven's inner monster. Instead of a 10 second hug solving all of his problems, Steven has to get away from beach city and start his new (young adult) life. He turns away from the epicenter of his past, and his mom's past, and all the Crystal Gems' past, and looks toward the future. Thankyou for the video. It's really well made got me thinking about the show, so thankyou.
@@dreamdesk7258 Nah. I may be in minority, but I never liked Connie. There were a few too many times she was wrong in the original series, and she never apologized to Steven or anyone else. So to me, Connie was just as fallible as everyone else, if not more so.
It's a children's show. I like it anyways it's one of the few shows that actually knows how to talk about mature issues in a honest way. That's better than most shows that either don't talk about it or if they do it's always fixed in a happy way that isn't real and the character go back to normal like they aren't affected at all. I think that aspect is very underappreciated since that is a bigger issue in media where everything is put in this happily ever after way when that's not how the real world work at all. I think it's a pioneer in that way
@@jg3825 I get what you're trying to say, but it's sort of contradictory. As you said you prefer when shows don't talk about it only to solve it in a happy way where everything goes back to normal? That's literally what happens in SU:F. The whole PTSD thing? I know they say Steven has a therapist now, but the entire handling of PTSD was honestly disgusting. (I would know, I've been diagnosed and treated for it myself. ) I would prefer a show not talk about mature subjects if they can't resolve them in a mature way, otherwise you muddy the water even further regarding whatever subject you're trying to handle. I'm sorry if this comes across as rude, that was not my intention.
@@julianasohmer6176 While I agree with you, I knew about SU:F to be cut by cartoon network and their development of the plot as well. If it's fast or just not clear enough, while it's a kids show and there's mental illnesses in the plot, more time with CN would be enough to do it better than they did.
There's kind of been a trend of shows that delve into mental health issues as they get older, and it's not always compelling because it's usually a cover up in a live action show for a writing team/showrunner changing and the budget and cast getting smaller. It gets frustrating when cast and budgets got bigger, but the shows feel like they lost focus. 11 minutes at a time and animation is not always the right format to tell mental health stories. Animation depression worked for Bojack Horseman and mental health and wackiness can go together like Crazy Ex Girlfriend (but both those shows had viewers drop off at the end and left the zeitgeist mostly forgotten). Young Justice had a season long depression arc in S3 and kind of repeated the arc in S4 which made those shows feel like it was circling the drain. House and Castle did something similar, though like a lot of late series TV, lost a big chunk of the main cast and budget and writers and showrunners changed with Jodi Whittaker and Peter Capaldi Doctor's in Doctor Who when the shows forgot how to be fun instead of broody or depressing. I think the main think is, by doing what a lot of other shows are already doing, what the news media is also doing, what DCEU is doing, you lost the sense of subversive counter-culture that gave Steven Universe it's identity in the first place. Everyone is on a spectrum of love and sexual identity and sexual attraction in the show and Steven was upbeat despite having a lot of emotional baggage and the show let the viewer sit back and soak it all in while also telling us to remember love. What other show was surface level this simple and subsurface this complex? Maybe Crazy Ex Girlfriend, but not many. So it changed a lot and lost it's identity when it stopped being covertly complex and started to be overtly complex (which is telling not showing and also when you explain jokes and ideas, they're always less special and nuanced). Breaking the show don't tell rule that lead to a deeper understanding was maybe not the best idea. Plus music did go downhill, and music was a big part of the character.
I think the reason that Steven looks different after training with Jasper is that it was established in season 1 that Steven could change his appearance based on his emotions/state of mind. So he obviously felt much older and stronger when he was with Jasper, but once he shattered her he felt weak, and like he couldn't escape Pink Diamond, no matter how hard he tried
show: things were rushed because we ran out of time/were limited :( also show: *adds way too many filler episodes* edit: oops nvm lol he mentioned that
@Stalls for what future was about (being steven's own mental issues and tackling some stuff that was left over in the original show) rose buds I wouldn't count as that does focus on somethign unanswered int he original series. same with bluebird. snow day was technically more so focused on steven's own issues really. why so blue is focusing on how gems react to the new era 3 of gems and how things have changed under the diamond authority which was interesting/ A very special episdode? was none of that and was obviously filler
@Stalls eh...aquamarne and topaz wouldn't really get along anymore remember? it's nice that eyeball and aquamarine got a annswer as to what happened to them as this was kinda like part of what this epilogue series would do really and yeah their question did get answered as they did appear in future and it's clear there just gonna spend time just going around being annoying and wanting revenge against steven.the purpose of showing how different gems would react? true but this time it shows a different kind of gem being more lapisis and how unlike jasper who is more neutral now those lapisis just wanna cause more destruction
Oh a child? Preferring what he’s used to? How unheard of! And how, pray tell, would he ever get through college if he never went to school in the first place? What his sats scores will just appear?
He literally did that in Future to White..>When White was in his mind he ended up Controlling her instead using his mind gem powers....Also in Escapism he used it to become the watermelon which saved their lifes
Steven: *crying that the gems won't reach to him and trying to understand his problems* The gems: *reaching out to him when they feel concerned and want to try understanding his problems* Steven: *telling them to leave him* The gems: *leave him be* Steven: *disappointed monster roar*
@@MrVaiza that's more of a feeling of being helpless,and if you fell 10 times but 1 time someone caught you,that doesn't mean you will trust the person to catch you again. If you understand what i'm trying to say
I understand what you mean about Spinel. I personally like her when the movie was released. And also I also hated the fact that she was in her goofy appearance to how she was before 6,000 years ago, and also me personally I liked when she was always so angry sometimes and always so snappy. 💙💜
You know i feel like the Regular Show series finale WORKED was because they had the guts to kill off a major character. No other major cartoon series finale had the the guts do that. or has since. Death is more impactful.
16:23 you're wrong on that one mate. That's EXAAAAAACTLY how someone with PTSD sounds: he thinks the trauma is his fault, and hes a worse person because of it.
Fr. When a person is feeling extremely overwhelmed they also experience a lot of crazy mood swings shifting from blaming everyone around them for their situation to blaming themselves for everything
All the commenters saying how SUF is a terrible example of how trauma actually works are so wrong and clearly have never suffered trauma themselves. That was actually, really realistic.
I feel like pearl and bismuth and pearl and volleyball episodes were very important to show pearl’s development around the loss of rose, but I do agree that a lot of the episodes should have mattered at the end of the plot. I honestly wish that Steven and pearl actually had a talk about it.
I am confused on why Spinel didn't say shit in the finale when they were all hugging Steven. Spinel is probably the closest gem to have a similar experience as Steven yet she didn't say anything? Smh. Future was terrible.
I don't want to sound like a jerk, okay But watching this video made me think about one thing "Do y'all even understand anything at this point?" because it doesn't take a genius to understand the points of the show: 1. It's about Steven being a human 2. It's about the future of everyone in the show after season 5 3. This isn't the final season, just a limited sequel spinoff 4. It talks about trauma and realistic issues (something that many shows wouldn't dare to talk about) 5. I feel like y'all can't accept characters for being themselves or for expressing themselves the realistic way. In my perspective, this limited sequel spinoff opened my eyes into things in the original show. It showed me how trauma affected Steven and his life, and it also showed us the original show in another perspective and how people did change. Also, just a reminder that NOT every good show is a protagonist having to fight an antagonist for a whole season or something And no offense at all after all I said, but I CAN'T WATCH THIS VIDEO OR YOUR REASONING WITHOUT CRINGING OUT Do you want me to say something else ???
@@GamerGamerGamer77777 You're right. All of this video is complaining there's no villain in future and how there isn't an overarching plot because there isn't a new villain. Oh and blatant misrepresentation and disregard of what future and the main show setup as rules of the universe and character motivation
I feel like this happened SU crew: “hey we’re going end the show” CN: “no” SU crew: “ok how about another season?” CN: “and a movie” SU crew: “ok fine a movie too” CN: “and a rushed miniseries” SU crew: *”W h a t”*
i disagree with most of this video besides your point at 16:15 . That was literally so random what tf was steven talking abt i feel like they just ripped that out of there as$ to give steven a monologue, like i guess it could make sense? But i feel like something could be more fitting instead of "I'm a fraud." That doesn't seem like the problem steven is going through.
Don’t forget to add that Steven almsot killed people multiple times, attempting to kill all his friends in that shrinking force field, jasper, almost killed his dad by ripping the steering wheel off the car, and possessing white diamonds into smashing her head into a column.
ranking the episodes: 20. a very special episode 19. why so blue 18. rose buds 17. in dreams 16. bluebird 15. mr universe 14. bismuth casual 13. snow day 12. everything’s fine 11. prickly pair 10. the future 9. guidance 8. i am my monster 7. together forever 6. little homeschool 5. homeworld bound 4. little graduation 3. growing pains 2. fragments 1. volleyball
Hey, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. this is my only video that's done this well so if you could check out my channel if you enjoyed that would mean the world to me :)
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@@Hydroshott Yeah, the Volleyball two Pearls ep was significant and answers Steven's problem, in a way.
@@BenDaresAll Volleyball doesnt have any major appearances after that. The only time she appears after episode 4 is in "Everything is fine" and even then it's at the green house. So hydro kinda had the right to skip that.
@@Dxuser5 Hydro labelled other eps as filler but the Volleyball ep is an big step change, even if it's for another character. At the very least, Hydro should have acknowledged it.
@@BenDaresAll yeah but... nothing really changes
To be honest, White's crying made me laugh so hard because she murdered trillions of life forms and felt such sorrow for Steven.
Wait when was it revealed she killed many-
@@9catzvr378 it was explained in Now We're Falling Apart that colonizing or invading planets kills planets. And also there's a presentation in Your Mother and Mine of how many planets White colonized.
@@SeanAlegator oh yeah I can’t believe I forgot about that-
@@9catzvr378 I will say it again, this show throws so much crap your way that you start to think about it, then it throws this drama arc, then you forget all that you were thinking about and start thinking about the arc
@@oefest5252 what the-
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steven was having a mental breakdown in every episode that wasn't a flashback though
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15:52 Is the most interesting concept in the entirety of this show. Steven realizes that no matter what awful things he does, he has the power to fix them, so it doesn't matter, and he will never have to learn.
That sounds like the origin of a damn supervillain, and a remarkable one at that.
I kinda want Steven Universe to be about generational trauma. I want the villain to be Steven.
@@Gemeuax Steven'd be a great villain.
@@breadleymcthicc5444 yep, even better then what they did to White Diamond
@@breadleymcthicc5444 for real and I bet pink diamond/rose would be that character that’s like what happened to you as if she didn’t cause this or something
@@Gemeuax the show kinda is about generational trauma lol.
"But she only hurt you because I hurt her, just like how I hurt Yellow and Blue and everyone in the entire universe." - White Diamond on generational trauma
I related a lot to Steven this season. I helped raise my siblings, went to war, and was lost when all was said and done. I felt if I wasn't useful to anyone, I was a waste of life. From the beginning of the season, I recognized what he was going through. The desire for a semblance of normality with others you love, without endless shame. The sadness circlejerk at the end was peak awful, though. I didn't enjoy the message left for anyone like him.
but it is steven universe, if it was any other show, then ok, ita the purpose of the show, but is a continuation of the damn steven universe
So you’re saying you related to the series, the way Steven felt from the beginning till the end, but you’re saying you didn’t like the ending right? I think the show did an amazing job at closing Steven Universe’s universe. Steven Universe Future was my favorite season, more than the first five Steven Universe, even though the beginning felt like filler I’m pretty sure that for someone who has gone through a similar experience would understand the need for those moments in the beginning. I honestly liked the ending, don’t get me wrong, saying a hug fixes everything is wrong, but they didn’t try to say that, the hug was just a representation of their love for him, he felt like they didn’t need him anymore, and he felt that if he was useless then he had no purpose, and he thought of himself as a monster for not being able to cope with his trauma, but when they hugged, it screamed at him saying, “we love you unconditionally” that didn’t fix anything though, afterwards he started going to therapy, and went to go find himself. Even though I liked the ending, I still believe though that we have our own right to like or dislike the series, but we gotta remember that it’s not about us, this is what Rebecca Sugar wanted, and it’s her show, so we should be thankful and not criticize her.
The last things I say on my last comment were for the creator of the video, you never spoke bad of the show, I’m sorry for implying you did
@@josephcienfuegos5016the main problem with Steven universe future is that the writing was significantly wrose than both the movie and the other seasons like i get it,you want people to learn about mental health but I'm you can't do that if your rushing the plot,making both the lesson and the series garbage..i generally love Steven universe but this was embarrassing...even SONIC 06 had better writing that this show and that game came out in two thousand and six🤦i would at least ended the series with a cliffhanger rather than a badly written show
Steven: **stabs greg**
Greg: *im proud of you*
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Thank you for this comment
wait what when did this happen
As a whole I fell like spinel is meant to be a one time character for the movie and future shows that.
She shouldn't have been canon in the show
@@piretiris8223 a lot of characters shouldn't have been. This whole diamond and homeworld stuff shouldn't have been a thing in the first place.
Only in the movie
@@piretiris8223 still a lot of characters shouldn't been a thing at all as well as the lore. People are going to be interested in those things so if your not not going to explore those interesting things and characters don't put it in your story at all.
Blazingblue Dimensional animations ???
I don't know man, alot of the problems you see in this aren't really problems, they're really just irks I guess. For example, steven growing a beard is kind of directly tied to his he feels mentally. In one episode back, his body changed because of how he felt how old he was. He felt he was growing during his training with jasper, that's most likely why he started to look older. And him "shaving" is due to him reverting back to his younger self because he's shouldering yet again, alot of guilt. I just rewatched the entire show, it's pretty easy to catch on to alot of things when you remember it like the back of your hand.
Bro it's his opinion for god sake. So shush
@@louisb.1443Their just explaining about how he was wrong? 😭
@@louisb.1443Jesus we need to realize when there's a difference between being wrong and an opinion
@@beingbored7617 FOR REALL
Yeah! And the “he randomly projected his dream on the TV!? Random new power bad” like its the combination of 2 different concepts! 1) gems can alter TV signals, we see that with lapis in S1 and peridot in S2. We even see a similarity in the diamond fight/garnets wedding where steven like projected into the gem state or wtvr and said “we’re family” 2)Stevens mental state affects his powers. From when he felt old and he became old, when greg lied about his leg healing and steven was no longer confident and then couldn’t heal for a time. So when you combine those, it means bad feelings get projected onto the tv! Hell even in the og show pearl projected her dreams into a hologram! It takes remembering the bare minimum of the show to understand that lmao
He says there isn't an overarching plot but there actually is in most episodes:
In the second one he tries to help everyone but fails, which causes him to think he is losing his ability to resolve everything and makes him rethink his purpose
The roller rink portrays his inability to make real human friends and makes him realise that he isn't like a normal human at all and can't relate to them, cutting off a part of himself
Cactus Steven shows him losing his friends and having a fear of losing new ones, so he starts planting but makes a living plant which he confines that he is losing faith in the people but it says it to those people and forces him to face his trauma
Overall there is an actual overarching plot but instead of making it blatantly obvious there is one, it makes it way more subtle, each episode sneakily slipping in signs of different trauma and PTSD, and it also uses things that he learnt in his childhood to emphasize this. He rarely ever used to help himself and only helped others, that being his goal throughout all his time, but when there is no one to help he has no goal, and starts to feel empty, and the show shows that in different ways as he realizes he can't help people and starts to have his childhood trauma start making this sense of despair much worse, and this starts slowly effecting his mental and ( I think that the body swelling and stuff is actually representing when you are having a negative impact on your body) physical health, and no one around him helps, and some make it worse, which leads to him feeling alone and like he can't confinde in anyone which makes him feel even more depressed. And this is really shown as he begins to lose faith in the people around him and he begins to isolate himself, Cactus Steven emphasizes his fear of confindeing which is honestly just sad as he keeps all this stress and loneliness bottled up.
Gosh, sorry I made this into an essay without even going into the ending episodes and saying about them, it was supposed to be short but I got carried away :-)
oh my gosh you’re observant 😭 /pos
This is so well written! I totally agree with your points! Excellent insight
He summone the fandom(you)
Oh hey! Leafy pfp xd
Exactly! See you get it!
Let me point out that we had an episode in season 1 where steven uncontrollably changes his age based on his mindset. Guess that answers the beard growth with Jasper
Yes, that is correct. Finally someone pointed it out.
When I first saw that episode I almost lost it, cause I almost witnessed a child dying
Oh yeah! Thanks for this
@Poopyhead facts ong 😭
@@Robtop-ml4sv (almost every episode of steven universe)
The overarching plot is Steven slowly losing his sanity and going insane because he doesn't talk about his emotions.
Yep its clear thes characters act like this becaus to theme its just one if Stevens silly lssues and Steven Gießen WTF
@@pascalfernandes6957tbh still even if he’s not supposed to be silly and everyone’s knows that IT STILL SUCKS it was hella boring everyone is so emotional over dumb things and they barely mention the plot of him losing sanity since they keep switching up why he is going insane. It was also hella cringey
So, it's like Joker/Cruella. 😐
@@pascalfernandes6957 ‘stevens *silly* issues’ ayo dont call someones emotions silly, emotions are emotions. i know stevens a fictional character but people can actually relate to his emotions
@@bla_nkyt4978 switching up? it's not just one reason! it's all of them combined! are you serious right now?
The best use of filler episodes ever. It's so cool that the theme of this is that Steven is meant to save everyone, and then realizes that the happily ever after never really came. He repressed all of this build up of trauma and saving he alone had to do for everyone around him just because he was unlucky enough to have his mothers gem. She wasn't bad either, it's just frustrating that he has to deal with what she started, and had to be there in it's core from start to finish instead of being a human kid who enjoyed life..hence why he goes to college at the end.
The plot of the show is to clearly be a more adult and serious look on the effects of trauma and the ways that it hides in your mind and body. Steven's growths are a subconscious aspect of his trauma showing through his body. The show is attempting to use character, and character design in order to show the dangers of trauma and what it can do to a person if left unchecked. Steven shattering Jasper is something that is fixable because it demonstrates the idea that people with trauma will mask their negative behavior, whether that's self-destructive or harmful to others, with righting their wrongs as they make them before anyone can see the true damage they're doing to themselves or others. If there is an aspect of this series you don't understand as to why the creators did what they did, the most likely reason is to show character. Why does Steven think that proposing to Connie? Because he's insecure about who he is, so he relies on someone else to do the heavy lifting. This is a pretty common tactic among people in general, not just those with ptsd or mental illnesses. The way Connie's mother talks about trauma is one of the most accurate and realistic portraits I have seen. And there is probably better, but when she talks about how Steven's body is reacting to minor circumstances as if it's the end of thr world - I personally really connected with that. I saw myself in that phrasing. It's brilliant they were able to take such an extreme topic and display it in a way that makes it for anyone of any age an easy time to understand.
yeah but that took place in like 5 of the episodes and it kinda ruined the rest of the show too
The only thing I wanted after the movie was Steven and Pink finally having a direct heart to heart talk in person somehow
I think that was an alternate scene in the movie that was changed
Hydroshot I honestly hope not, one of the better things that they did was keeping Rose dead
Me to in future when he got back to normal or maybe while being a kaiju he could maybe had talked to her or rose and this time from the heart and not fake
Sardonicus this, like half of Rose’s whole point as a character is that she doesn’t get to come back and fix everything, everyone else has to deal with it on their own
@Sardonicus f up with me😍😍😍
Pov : steven universe future doesnt have a plot, it just shows what happened after he saved the world. He helped everyone but no one bothered to help him.
*all around me are familiar faces.*
@@mayphan9779 huh😂
@@benlambert2561 yep
THANK YOU. People claim they watched SUF but they don't understand this VERY SIMPLE AND CLEAR concept, and then proceed to blame the show and its makers.
Can’t agree more, This show is pretty much an interlude. I feel like this video is a little petty. The way the show is explained by him seems heavily in bad faith.
18:52 nah, hug can help someone. Its not going to cure people 100% but hugs can give some happy and safe feelings for a moment, that's more than enough for me
Yes you have a point, But it is more like a power of friendship because White Diamond clearly states that the pink monster is no longer Steven, But like any mindless beast in each cartoon/movies. But it would be more logical for white Diamond to say, Steven is still there/conscious, But he's a mindless beast/corrupted gem. But that is all I got to make it hype/good
and that's why i love the hug thing because the whole corrupted steven thing is just a massive mental breakdown from all the built up stress from his life and the hug doesn't cure him 100% it just helps him calm down and realize that he ISNT okay. he even mentions how he goes to therapy in the final episode
i feel like at the end with the "group hug thingy" steven started crying because he realized how many people were supportive and cared for him. As we know he felt like everyone saw him in his past self. When he saw that everyone HE cared about were finally listening to him, it made him feel better in a way. Sometimes you just need to feel seen or heard or just have a good cry. NO HATE BTW
Tbh steven universe future gave me a "I'm not mad, just disappointed" feeling
Why Tho same
I think we all put SU on such a high pedestal we missed the major mistakes
@@queenperrytheplatypus458 do you mean,, pedestal?
Sh H Yep. Whoops. Autocorrect
Which is worse
No one here will have a good time now that we all know.. *Spinel is still standing. Wait for Pink to return. Still standing there* *_all alone_*
You know I was having a good day .You know what I have know?*Tears*
That is actually sad.
Buddha has nothing to do with this lol
To be honest, I'd go down a path of insanity if I was left in a garden for 6000 years
Don't even try to convince me that she didn't at least once to get some Wendy's 😒
Steven universe future was not bad I think it was just aimed for a older audience than the first show also it was supposed to be a ending to the show I liked it a lot tbh
Also in the first show Steven changed age multiple times bc of him thinking he was old and he looked like that in the episode
I mean, I didn't like future either, but a lot of this just felt so... nitpicky. Like yeah, future sucked, but it didn't suck because Steven "shaved" after shattering Jasper.
*[Oh stars, here we go again]*
CJ says it better-
@@thexylophone yeah
There is actually going to be a steven universe 2. Were steven is an adult and after a couple of episodes he meets the gems and also the world is halfed his dad died I dont know where is lapis but peridot and bismut what also there. Other gems started to become corrupted again. The diamonds look different and spinel..... she is again so evil so mean. And at the last episode of steven universe 2. He has kids and a family so... (spoiler alert). Also I dont know were connie is!? And pink diamond is back... she wasn't actually shattered. She has amnesia.. but I cant tell you the rest... steven universe 2. Probably coming ate December or next year
@@thexylophone There is actually going to be a steven universe 2. Were steven is an adult and after a couple of episodes he meets the gems and also the world is halfed his dad died I dont know where is lapis but peridot and bismut what also there. Other gems started to become corrupted again. The diamonds look different and spinel..... she is again so evil so mean. And at the last episode of steven universe 2. He has kids and a family so... (spoiler alert). Also I dont know were connie is!? And pink diamond is back... she wasn't actually shattered. She has amnesia.. but I cant tell you the rest... steven universe 2. Probably coming ate December or next year
@@dragonempress8367 There is actually going to be a steven universe 2. Were steven is an adult and after a couple of episodes he meets the gems and also the world is halfed his dad died I dont know where is lapis but peridot and bismut what also there. Other gems started to become corrupted again. The diamonds look different and spinel..... she is again so evil so mean. And at the last episode of steven universe 2. He has kids and a family so... (spoiler alert). Also I dont know were connie is!? And pink diamond is back... she wasn't actually shattered. She has amnesia.. but I cant tell you the rest... steven universe 2. Probably coming ate December or next year
Steven's proposal to Connie seemed like a desperate attempt to prevent Connie form leaving him. He did not think about how a life changing decision like that could affect her future, and I think that shows how broken on the inside Steven was.
I hated how Steven treated Connie in Future and he never apologises for it or acknowledges he mistreated her.
*"I CANNOT BE AROUND YOU RIGHT NOW!!!"* - is toxic as hell.
@@PlanetZoidstar simply putting my opinion, I disagree. He’s sacrificed himself for Connie and her response was to make him feel bad and steal Lion. He needed help, she didn’t, and whenever she got upset, he felt bad. She was pretty awful to him, actually. Maybe I’m biased, but he shouldn’t apologize for not being mentally okay when he’s been through so much trauma AND he had to fix other people’s problems 24/7 from a young age. I don’t think I should apologize when I have breakdowns, so he shouldn’t either.
@@dreamt0wn739 Not being mentally okay is no excuse for treating someone horribly. That is a toxic mindset that can be used to excuse abuse.
But I agree in that instance you gave Connie was in the wrong. Even if the show refuses to acknowledge it.
@@PlanetZoidstar thing is, he didn’t treat anyone horribly. He needed support, he was confused, he didn’t understand that he probably just needed the extra care, and tried to push people away so they didn’t help him. He was in a really bad state of confusion and stress, so I believe he was not wrong for ‘being toxic’
And honestly, more often than not, I see any human emotions that people don’t want to deal with whether they’re anger, sadness, grief, depression, anxious, or any other ‘negative’ emotions or behaviors mislabeled as toxic. If someone’s angry, and someone else doesn’t agree with why they’re angry, they’re toxic. If someone needs any emotional accommodations, toxic. Idk, it’s not a fair label. I know the difference between abuse and not being nice to someone, and that’s on having gone through mental abuse, physical abuse, and other stuff. That’s just my opinion based on my experiences.
@@dreamt0wn739 Thing is, Steven did mistreat Connie in Future. He tried to pressure her into marrying him out of the blue, and when he didn't get the answer he felt entitled to he threw a pity party and Garnet had to comfort him. That's toxic entitled behaviour to expect the person you care about will just say "yes" and then having a hissy fit when they say "no". Then when she shows up and is clearly worried that he's having a meltdown, he screams in her face for her to leave. I've had emotional breakdowns before but I never let that make me scream in the faces of the people I care about and care about me. The fact Steven never apologises for that is especially toxic and it's never brought up again.
It's okay to be angry, but it's not okay to take that anger out on other people. You are allowed to have moments of weakness, vulnerability and stress, but the moment you start taking it out on the people around you, you're the problem. It doesn't help that this all started when Steven tried to pressure Connie into marrying him and her turning him down is part of why he breaks down later at the hospital.
I am sorry that you've had to deal with similarly stressful and anxious times before, but it seems you're just trying to justify that it's okay to use that as an excuse to hurt people. That you are not ultimately responsible for how you process your problems or who you lash out at because of them. You take issue with Connie feeling betrayed and leaving, but when it's Steven who is feeling hurt, suddenly he's innocent in all of this.
Connie never meant to hurt Steven by rejecting his proposal, she was 14 and clearly far too young for such a commitment. Depending on where Beach City is, Steven was likely too young, and you need parental consent regardless. It was a dumb idea born from his selfish entitlement and fear of her going away, he wanted to shackle himself to Connie at all times and take away her right to privacy. That is what makes his meltdown later toxic.
I hate how it was advertised as a continuation to the movie but ended up being about Steven struggling with mental health and turning pink. It had so many opportunities to answer unanswered mysteries but didn't even give us an answer to why Steven turned pink which was basically the whole story of the steven universe future series. I wish they just made the movie the finale
Funny fact: Steven is 2 years older than Connie. He was 16 and she was 14.
💀
Ruby convinced Steven to ask Connie to marry him this isn’t really Steven’s fault lol
Meh. I’ve seen worse gaps and Steven and Connie’s relationship got weird as hell in SU Future.
When I saw Spinel it's like she went from 1080p to 144p
Well, that's one way to describe it
Same I hated the way they downgraded her
@@klourdes6068 X2
@@klourdes6068 they had a lower budget
Btw before anyone comes for me this was a joke
the best character here was lion.
no one will ever change my opinion.
nothing will change my opinion
lion is the best
Yes
You words are so true
agreed
y e s
true
I've experienced trauma and I have to say that what Steven goes through in SU:Future is showing it's audience the steps of denial, fear, anger and self harm that people go through. If I'd been writing the show then Lapis Lazuli would have been the one who fixed Steven, not Jasper. She understood the condition better than anyone.
A.G.
9:59 I feel like they really wanted a scene that mirrored the first episode, but to show how much Steven’s mental health has deteriorated, but they couldn’t figure out an idea past jasper coming back from being SHATTERED, which completely removes any consequences it might’ve once had
The handling of Jasper makes me so mad. She got all this buildup outside the show in interviews as a tragic, traumatized figure, then she just gets stuck as the show’s punching bag.
Yeah
Basically, she's the person other characters vent their anger out on (like Lapis or Steven) and that's sad
Sans undertale rants about lesbian rocks for nearly 25 minutes
Incredible
(jokes aside good video)
Thanks
LMAO LESBIAN ROCKS
Lol
So I’m not the only one
Rose/ Pink was the only non lesbian 😹
Honestly, THE CRYSTAL GEMS are the reason Steven didn't have a childhood (school, medical, ect.) It is not Greg's fault, his own son was kinda wrongfully kidnapped after the loss of his alien wife. Then said kidnappers refused to even have Greg in Steve's life most of the time or in the house that should be his too. Its pretty depressing Greg didn't get to be a father or watch his son grow on an intimate level and thats NOT his fault.
Steven wasn’t kidnapped by the gems? Unless you’re talking about that one episode but Greg got Steven back. Steven only started living with the gems around right before season one of Steven universe started
Didn't Steven choose to follow his mom's footsteps?
@@SerperiorChaos I mean... did he actually or was he literally raised as if he was her replacement and savior of the Gems? He literally didn't even have a friend his own age until Connie. Just, no.
@@stevengosnell7034 Cool. Their whole shtick was probably cus Steven had enough time as a human from ages 1-12 so once he was old enough, it was time for him to discover his Gem side of things. If you still think it's immoral, then ok. His life is weird af anyways.
@@SerperiorChaos it's not really immoral just bad fucking writing.
this took longer to make. probably because you didn't pay attention to the MEANING of SUF XD or just didn't pay attention to all the trauma poor steven went through in the show.
this is 2 years old😭
Nah this review is so not good man
Spinel is one of my favorite gems too. I makes me wonder if she's not fully recovered and she's on blues happy clouds which fans joke is drugs
Yeah Spinel is my favorite and thinking about that makes me sad :(
Question for Honeybee News, what did you do with Stevens electric toothbrush
@@nekopiitou f me up... NOWW
@@nekopiitou just a joke...
@spinel :'0 🥺💕
I honestly would have preferred it if Jasper STAYED shattered.
Imagine, a gem that didn't want to bow to Steven's wishes, even when everyone around her, has, she has a refusal to change her ways.
Then, when Steven comes to her for help, she helps in a way that Steven never dreamed of.
Then, in a duel, Steven shatters her. A gem that Steven wanted to get better, one of the only loose ends that he himself wanted to redeem...gone.
Steven would have to live with this, The fact that he shattered someone would make his mental illness much worse.
I agree with this. Jasper didn’t really do much for the plot after fragments so her staying shattered would’ve made it less anticlimactic since the whole point of shattering is dying and not coming back
@@justinran1693 I wishbit at least retained the impact. Like she stayed "dead" until the very end of the show or so.ething and then they figure out to try the diamond essence or whatever. Still would be fine if the stayed dead though.
Adding on to this, the idea of shattering set consequences in the show. It helped form tension and a real sense of danger
Then they started fixing shattered gems and the sense of danger was gone. The show lost it's consequences
If that makes sense
@@spinglefork It does! Jasper either should've stayed shattered permanently or until the very end so it at least kept its impact on Steven.
Idk, it'd be really impactful, but they would have had to go a lot bigger with the finale for Steven feeling okay with himself after permanently murdering someone to feel right. Idk if they could make it feel right, that's something he really should feel terrible about. And there'd be a lot of people hating on the show for turning Steven into an irredeemable monster or whatever. Having Jasper come back and call Steven "my diamond" was great imo, it played into his fears and was such an "oh shit" moment.
"Problem can be solved by hugging"
I never been in a hug a lot and maybe a hug can make me feel better and burst me in tears while im having a bad day
Same
Honestly I loved it because that's reality you dont always get your high-school sweetheart and they break your heart and sometimes you don't figure yourself out and live in a van your whole life like Steven's dead beat father who was clearly broken to losing his love to basically child birth, but you know what? Everyone did love him and sometimes family, friends and lovers are the cause of your ptsd and that takes time and growing and forgiveness to do. I would love to see them make another season where he travels and finds himself and explores out on his own path.
OK I agree with you mostly. But Greg is far from a deadbeat. Why do you think he lives in a van most of the series? quite literally most of the money he makes from his car washing job pays for Steven's house and bills. And courts aren't forcing him to do that he does so because he wants to. The reason why he does not live with Steven is because he's partially afraid of him and partially afraid of the crystal gems. Plus he had lived by a parenting philosophy of not wanting To be in your kids face all the time. That being said he lives just down the street from Steven and they hang out all the time. In fact Greg is probably Stevens closest human friend. Sorry to go off on a tangent but after all the Peter Griffin's and Homer Simpson's Stan Smiths and Hank Hills, Greg is so refreshing as one of the only cartoon dads I've ever seen that is actually a good father even if he doesn't have his life together.
as someone who suffers from c-ptsd (this show came out not too long after i got diagnosed), i actually liked how they did this show. the whole “nothing happens” episodes where steven freaks out over minor inconveniences shows how his brain is wired to think that every problem could possibly be the end of the world bc in the past that’s how it was. he doesn’t know how to cope in a world where nothing is going on. also him seeing people gems that looked like his mom reminds me of how often times i see certain people in others/think i see certain people out of the corner of my eye and yeah it’s pretty intense. anyways i get how it can seem boring and disappointing, but i really appreciate how it shows c-ptsd (no matter how simply) and what it can do to your brain. great video btw! i like seeing other people’s perspectives!
Yeah but its pretty irritating to waych especially after all the bullshit that goes down in the show and movie
Thank you for sharing your opinion! I personally also think it's good at showing other certain things that I can connect to my own experiences with mental illness including my depression which can get swept under the rug because "you're too young what could you possibly be sad about" but its awesome seeing other peoples thoughts on the show because of how mental health centered it is.
watching the whole SUF, i can really appreciate the boring-ness of the last season. If you pay close attention to details, steven is always finding someone to help or finding something to get busy with. As we may know, steven has c-ptsd and these can be subtle. I think of this as some coping mechanism steven has for his traumas. If i’m to be asked, the last season isn’t disappointing, it really shows a lot
exactly. suf wasnt meant to be like su the movie, it was about the long lasting effects of what steven experienced throughout the franchise. the first few episodes had nothing going on because it was meant to let us see into Steven's psyche and witness it going down a slippery slope. it's not everyone's cup of tea and it doesnt help that it was cut short by the execs .
I agree whole heartedly. I wanted to see why its bad from someone elses perspective but i can't see eye to eye. Skip certain parts in my life and this was a great euphemistic representation of myself and what trauma does to a person. Which i like when a show or game explores after their characters experience events that would be traumatic to certain people. Why i like SUF so much
I just think this is a season for the people who want more of the characters living life. This isnt a season for the people who want big over arching plot points.
We couldn’t have both apparently
Yeah, they TRIED to pull some plot ideas like introducing new villains, that, however, meant less than a grass blade. They could just *not* do so if what you said was the case, but they did. And it turned out so attrocious.
@@Ajepeajlwwjdmaoweeow I don’t think those villains were supposed to be more than a grass blade. SUF just isn’t told in the typical hero vs villain epic story. It’s rather a more realistic slice of life, which emulates how the beginning of the series was like. We already had our great story in the original series, and Rebecca Sugar said herself that they told the story that they wanted to tell. SUF isn’t a SU season 6, it’s a slice of life spin off that shows a different side to the world of SU.
Your unconditional love for Spinel already won me over to watch this entire video.
I think you're misunderstanding that steven universe wasn't really about continuing with what happened in the movie and the original show but rather showing that he had serious shit wrong with him and he needed help and to learn how to fix it, even the episode you mentioned as a "filler episode" with rainbow quartz and sunstone wasn't actually a filler episode because it still dealt with that theme of figuring out how to cope with things and finding out how to manage everything because he realized he couldn't do everything like people expected of him and that episode with spinel, the whole point of that episode was to show that he and everyone finally realize that they couldn't just depend on steven because he also had problems but they couldn't help him because they all got their help *from him* and he couldn't exactly talk to himself because he didn't know how to help himself and in the episode after that steven is denying everything *on purpose* because he didn't properly learn how to cope with things, I'm gonna put a link to a video that I think really helps explain why he didn't ever learn how to actually deal with things (ua-cam.com/video/4_vveDpuk14/v-deo.html)
We were supposed to get a Rhodonite backstory, but Rebecca thought it didn't fit with the plot. Yes Rebecca "A Very Special Episode" DEFINITELY fits with the plot.
A very special episode should’ve been at least one backstory of a gem
I mean she was being rushed to finish the show
I’m sure they could’ve squeezed it in Little Graduation. Instead of Steven talking to Jenny, he could’ve talked to Rhodonite. Maybe saying how everyone was looking forward, but he was looking back and transitioning it into her backstory, even if brief.
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@@buddygibson1207 That is not a valid reason. Rebecca had time to plan out her episodes. Remember that they take multiple long hiatus. Steven Universe Future is filled with bad writing and she could've paced her episodes properly.
They did Jasper so damn dirty. For years I was waiting for Jasper to make a big comeback, for her to get a redemption arc as great as Peridot's. But in the end, she didn't change at all. If she did get better, that would have happened off-screen, which is incredibly stupid. The final season ruined the entire show to me and completely shat on my fav character.
+Tiktoktree-It's pretty clear the writers don't like Jasper very much and probably only brought her back because the fans were begging for it. And honestly, I didn't want Jasper to get the FRIENDSHIP treatment but how she was handled wasn't that stellar either. She's still angry all the time, and they don't really do anything with that. You get the implication that she's lost, confused, doesn't know what to do anymore now that she knows that Pink Diamond is Rose. Her creator, her "mother" is her greatest enemy and caused her greatest suffering. All the pain she ever suffered through. And with The Diamonds dismantling the Empire, Jasper is no longer required to be the "perfect Quartz" solider either. So what can she do? Who can she be now?
And the show doesn't really do anything with that. At all. Steven's way of approaching her and trying to help her is to. .. feed into her nasty temper. . .Okay. . .Why? Steven taking lessons from Jasper has potential but they never do anything with it. And she makes him so mad that he straight up kills her. . .And when he magically revives her back to life, she develops Stockholms and swears absolute loyalty to "her Diamond."
And that's the last you see of her until the last episode. It's IMPLIED she got better, off screen, because she's at Little Homeworld now. When at the beginning of the season, she refused to live among the other Gems and wanted to be by herself. And when Steven tells her he's leaving, she gets so upset that she knocks a hole in the wall. So she will miss him. But given that the last time Steven saw her, he straight up killed her, you can't see anything but a disturbing Stockholms where she wants to please Steven and do whatever he wants.
Steven was the one who asked her to come join Little Homeworld. And there's no indication she came there for any reason other than because it's what Steven wanted. She swears undying fealty to him and telling her that he's leaving is only going to upend and traumatize her even more. And she's proven to be so violent, unstable, and unable to live with others that there's no indication she's not a constant danger to all the Gems around her. He just leaves and expects the Crystal Gems to pick up the mess.
@@feraflauna3238 bruh she was my favorite too 😭
eh....I felt like she should have intereacted more with atleast someone at the end but she is more neutral and less hostile to others at least
@@feraflauna3238I would say the writers don't dislike Jasper and that they wanted to bring Jasper back and to use her for something and they did but really main thing that I wished that happened was that they showed Jasper interact more with some other gems at the end of future.
well now Jasper is just doing her own thing pretty neutral.
Steven tried to get her to leave at that point to not be dependent on him but stockholm syndrome? steven didn't really capture Jasper or anything that's more likely if anything lapis may have developed that or jasper with lapis but Jasper was glad that there was someone stronger then her who she can serve was all as that's what her job was so she didn't develop Stockholm for Steven
with Jasper she still seems neutral I feel like she may try to interact with some more gems but that should have been shown on screen really.
Same
Your lack of media literacy is honestly kind of impressive, you misinterpret almost every single thing in this show
@JUSTAMEME ! whatever you say boss
Aren't people suppose to interpret things differently? Or are we all suppose to think the same?
@@ohno4192 Sure, but some of those interpretations are going to be just inaccurate. The video essayist shared a fair few of takes that are just ones I personally disagree with, but still have validity.
But for example he said it's bad writing that Steven says that everything he's going through currently is his own fault because he doesn't learn from his mistakes is a misinterpretation of the scene, because earlier in the show Connie's mom said that his body was reacting negatively to trauma. This is a misinterpretation because the video essayist thought Steven saying this meant the writers just CHANGED why Steven's having these reactions, when in reality Steven saying this is supposed to show that he's having an emotional meltdown and isn't thinking rationally. This isn't a difference of opinion or something subjective, this is just flat out misreading the scene, and dubbing it a bad scene because of that doesn't feel valid.
@JUSTAMEME ! Hydro's more than welcome to not like the show, but I'm allowed to point out that he misunderstood the point of a lot of scenes in the show
@JUSTAMEME ! half the shit the dude said in the video was straight up false you idiot LMAOOO
Man really said Steven universe future didn't have good music
My problem is with the group hug and how he said “all your problems can be solved with a freakin group hug”,
All his problems weren’t solved, that just helped him calm down in the moment, it takes him getting therapy and spending time on himself for him to actually get begter
That's exactly what I thought after that was said
He did get therapy tho. But it was only a mention so yeah disappointing as fuck. I thought at least they were gonna show him getting therapy
Yeah he got therapy offscreen, cause the audience doesn’t want him to see him get better
@@Robtop-ml4sv Or because we don't need to. We know he is getting therapy, and it's talked about naturally, destigmatized. And because there were no longer time ?
@@imnogood5016 It would've been good for character progression though
White Diamond looked into his thoughts and said-
ÆUGH
ÆUGH ÆUGH 😂😂😂😂😂😂
ÆUGH ÆUGH ÆUGH ÆUGH
Rebecca: mans steven crazy
Lapis: This plan sucks
Is this the now dead pufferfish sound?
Coolhedgeboi ÆUGH yep 👍
Seriously, I know this is stupid, but part of me had a theory that when Steven left at the end of home world bound, he wanted to go somewhere to just be alone. And he would need to pick a place that no one really knew about. A far away place that no one would think to look for him at. And once he left his sandal at home world, I took this as hope that my theory would come true. I felt like the diamonds would go to Earth sooner and ask the gems where Steven was. Together, they would brainstorm something like
“He’d want to go someplace where he can be alone. A place where no one would think to come to.”
And then Spinel would realize where he was and say to everyone that she thinks she knows where he is. Then the diamonds would offer to go with her and she would quietly say that she has to do this alone. And then, she would take the warp to the garden. Once she got there, she would experience a mixture of emotions, almost wanting to turn back as the trauma returns to her. But then, (and this would be a great moment to show her character development of not only moving on but also letting things go which is completely unlike how she started ((being the clingiest gem I can think of)), she would remember that she was free from all of that trauma thanks to Steven. And she would inhale and then walk around until she found steven crying. Spinel would say his name out loud. Steven would look up at her, mostly sad but also surprised that she came for him, even tho this was the last place that she wanted to be. And together, they would talk and figure the rest out together. This would be a much better storyline because not only does it give Spinel massive character development, but it also would be a great follow up to the movie so at least 1 episode of the series would be worth the wait to watch.
Thank you if you’ve read all this :)
I disagree heavily with your view on this season and honestly it sounds like all you want is explosions and drama throughout every episode please correct me if I'm wrong😶😐😐
My theory is that Jasper stayed shattered and everything after that bathroom scene is just Steven having a mental breakdown from killing someone.
he just like went insane and went into a deep sleep forever lmao
Shit..
Ooo! Kinda like SUF Rewritten by KiwiQueen13, except in the rewrite everything is real.
A better ending honestly
Then how do you explain what happened later?
remember on Mr.Greg where Greg and Steven where singing about what they could do with the money and Greg says:"I could pay your college" and Steven sorta says: "I'm with the gems,i don't have to",they just erased this fact like Greg wanted to give him a chance and he was like "Nah,i'm good" and then he's all like "iT'S yOuR fAuLt,i cOuLd hAvE gOtTeN tO sChOoL",also Greg didn't had much money so he couldn't pay a school for Steven even if he wanted to,i think he wanted
PREACH PREACH PREACH
eh....I think before he could pay for school for steven just never did. as for college....that could still happen and may happen at some point that was just what steven said back then. also doens't change what he said about the doctor's either
I think that was more of Steven wanting someone to blame other than himself for his childhood.
the thing is greg even said “i could buy you all the finest courses online”. n steven changes the subject to going on a trip with the money instead.
Greg is rich
how it feels to enjoy steven universe future without some 20 minutes documentary screaming at yo ear that it is bad because of stevens face hair
When the movie was coming out, me and my sister were so excited but then we heard they swtiched it to a musical we were really losing hope for the movie that itd be bad but it was actually way better then we expected
Ok first of all, Greg's reaction to Steven by saying "I'm proud of you" is surprisingly in character for him, which is exactly why Steven starts to have static in his ears and muting Greg out because that exact attitude is what he blames Greg for. So I found it hauntingly perfect the way it played out because Steven already started to blame Greg, but this just adds fuel to the already burning fire.
Also Spinel changing is kinda validated due to her being exposed to the Diamonds who provided her with superficial benefits such as makeovers (Yellow), substances, I mean literal dopamine drugs (Blue) and letting it out on someone else (White)
Still doesnt matter, spinel if anything should grow to be smart, and not idiotic when it comes to others feelings, ESPECIALLY when Steven mirrors the desperateness that spinel has expressed. She has absolutely no right to do Steven like that, she became a hypocrite and absolutely oblivious towards steven. She means well of course but I don't think spinel should've "sang" to him, she should've actually helped him by giving her own personalized advice, or at least SYMPATHY.
@@pastelsploosh8914 Okay but Gems take far longer to change and mature than humans, especially an emotionally stunted/traumatized overgrown toddler (Spinel) who is now living with beings whose emotional maturity does not far greatly exceed her own (the diamonds)
@@emilyjones6875 if you use that logic and apply it to SU:F (which is a year probably from the movie) then her reverting to her old self is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE. taken your logic being that gems take much longer to mature and to grow and spinel growing with diamonds (who are absolutely not similar to pink in any possible way, being immature and bratty when she was still with pink) she should've matured at least a TINY bit from her interactions with the diamonds, and still be going through abandonment issues and not being ignorant to the problems steven is facing. If you take it as a human level of growth then it might be possible with the powers (for example: blue diamonds clouds) to account. But even that, empathy is never shown in spinel at all, and she shouldn't be oblivious since steven specifically asked how she moved on.
Stevens change song might be motivation, but she needs a hella wake up call when it comes to personal space and look around the room when it specifically comes to abandonment and how she treats others. Her treating steven with kisses and hugs while comedic would be unrealistic.
@@pastelsploosh8914 Seriously, they made spineless stupid and uncooperative and unable to help, even though out of everyone in the series she should understand and be able to help steven
@@cbell1446 compared to the movie and the show, the show made her look so displeasing to look at. The movie made her look semi consistent throughout the movie, while in the show she has eyelashes, longer face, and overall look absolutely stiff. I think thats an artistic nitpick but either way, even for me, i knew that her art style declined when the show was aired, everyone else did not have the same problem except spinel.
I swear every second is just Rebecca Sugar punishing us for even thinking about wanting an epilogue series
*Oh cheese REBECCA WHY*
Renaldo is what the crew thinks of us actually.
I hope she gets started on the epilogue bismuth. Get it.
@@Raya-ir4tm She gets good ideas and has no clue of how to execute any of them or have them naturally flow together, but she is good at making filler about unimportant background characters
10:48
He didn’t shave…his aging power. During his time of training, he felt powerful, which made him feel older. But once he killed jasper, he went back to normal(for whatever reason). Being able to control his age was one of his first powers introduced :3
In case you didn't notice, rebecca sugar no longer writes or storyboards or approves any of the episodes anymore, she is still a GENIUS, the new writers are the monkes. (if you need more proof, the last one she directed was the movie, which is... AMAZING!!!)
No she isn't.
@@bybybythewaywayway2006 3:39, look at who wrote and storyboarded the episode, is rebecca sugar there, no
@@thejawajester9975 she still sucks.
@@thejawajester9975 Even in regular Steven universe, there was too much filler for the amount of time taken between each new set of episodes. Don't go away for a year and come back with filler. That's disrespectful.
My theory:
This show was rushed, and cartoon network tried to flush out the good things in the show for various reasons. Something happened. Someone did something. I don't know what it is, but something happened-
well that one it is true but even when rushed, you gotta be coherent about it
Nah that's not a theory that's literally what happens.
@@zannis5441, it’s coherent enough, just pacing is off
Actually this is 100% true in the second art book of the series Rebecca reveal that the series was canceled during the production of ruby and sapphire’s wedding so that’s why the original series ending felt rushed but Cartoon Network decided to greenlight the movie and because the movie was greenlight cartoon network was like "if this movie happens then we'll give your more show because movie promotes show"
@@chaotic5245 jeeeesus cartoon network just makes weird things worse
Steven: *Almost kills his dad*
Greg: I'm proud of you
Me: *claps slowly
Edit: wow 842 likes...
Greg is proud that his own son almost killed him?
Wow, Greg. Just..wow.
Welp, Greg didn't had the gem to almost kill his dad.
Steven never killed his own father stop making comments like this
@@metropcsuser3077 We were saying he *almost* did kill him, not he did.
Hmmmm
It would have been better if the season would be mainly about Spinel. Like after she was taken by the diamonds, they should have shown how Spinel was trying to adjust right after what she did to Steven and his friends and his planet. For example at episode one, Spinel
struggles on having a short temper and gets mad at the diamonds for not having time to play with her or reminding her about pink, much like that. Then on episode two, she calls Steven for help so that he could help her to control her emotions and apologize to the diamonds, and the end of the first plot. Then on episode three, there would be an antagonist whether it would be
Black diamond or Red diamond or Emerald etc, who was just selfish and greedy for power like most villains does and so on.
Hope you like my idea after I recently rewatched the movie and repeat to the point when Spinel showed up then skip the
Cringy parts and only watched the scene of her and her song especially the drift away that I listened overnight.
And Spinel should always appear in all episodes without absences like in season 6 or Future. Where there's only two episodes that Spinel appeared.
i gotta be real this is a horrible take
I’m terrified for what the fandom is gonna do to you.
same
Now when you mentioned it,spinel did not have her tears,how did you spot that!?
@@boopywoofy I have eyes of steel
Understandable
@@Hydroshott 👁👄👁 the eyes of steel
I was pretty ticked off that we didn’t get any pink pearl and spinel scenes or white mentioning pink pearl and how she regretted her actions
Edit: holy shit i forgot i made this and it kinda blew up, and I didn’t know they didn’t have time. And im explaining that white and pink pearl having a one on one talking about pink or steven talking to white about pink, seeking more about his mother.
White talking about Pink Pearl satisfactorily would require developing her from her reluctance to call other gems equals to "being a voice for the Little Gem." If you ask me, she might not even regret it.
Srzly this is awesome
Honestly pink pearl was in like what ONE episode?? And somewhat or somehow dissapeared afterwards like nothing happened
They didn’t have anymore time if they could they would have, they only had 20 episodes given
yeah... like Steven suffered becuse of her be a bit more sensitive guys!
The one thing about the end that gives me some “oh that makes sense” is the fact that a lot of people who goes thru trauma ( obviously not as extreme as Steven) will most times blame them selves making the line about not learning and being a monster actually reflect how many people also respond to Trauma like PTSD
Don’t Give Rebecca Sugar the crap that this was a bad show. It didn’t Run with with Rebecca Directing. When the movie was finished Cartoon Network was like “YES WE NEED MORE STORIES AFTER THE MOVIE” and Rebecca did NOTHING all she did was Give the idea at SDCC 2019 and Cartoon Network just pretended Rebecca was in charge. That’s why the Written SO DIFFERENT
As someone who seriously relates to Spinel’s struggles and views and such, the ending of the movie was so wonderful. It made me feel like it’s ok that I’m not always stable, and that even if I’m not perfect I’m deserving of love. Spinel’s appearance in Steven Universe Future was like a slap to the face. It was so invalidating because all her development at the end of the movie was just *thrown away.*
Eris Cook How was her development “thrown away”? She was only acting the way she did in the movie because she was basically lashing out at whatever she could, and by the end of the movie she basically gotten what she actually wanted, which was affection and loyal companionship, since the Diamonds basically adopt her. So why *WOULDN’T* she act the way she does in Future? She never actually hated being the friendly goofball she was before, in fact she has hinted numerous times throughout the movie that she hated the way she was acting, so it was clear that what she wanted in the end was to have fun with others again instead of being a broken lunatic that wants to destroy everything. Which is a desire that’s *fulfilled now.* Unlike Pink, the Diamonds show no signs of wanting to discard her so she has what she wants. And while she triggered Steven that’s not because she’s “stupid” or out of character. He asked her how she stopped being vengeful and she responds by singing back his advice about making a change, basically communicating that his advice helped her, which annoyed him but she didn’t realize that because she lacks social skills and grace in that area, something the movie had shown repeatedly to have issues with, I mean she literally invaded Steven’s personal space and was shown to be rather clingy. And what happened wasn’t even her fault, he’s not in a good place right now and by this point all of the Diamonds have unintentionally triggered him in some way, but Steven isn’t really communicating what he is going through so obviously they aren’t going to magically understand what he needs right now. They don’t know how to handle this situation. And it’s likely that she did learn from what happened with Pink and isn’t as gullible as she was before, but there’s obviously not much ways to show that since, again, she has companions who enjoy her company now and won’t discard her on a whim. Her development wasn’t thrown away, you just didn’t understand her character.
Ryan Carson Spinel is heavily BPD coded, and clearly severely traumatized. I know from experience those things aren’t something you can just get over in a couple months or even a couple of years. No matter what desire has been fulfilled, the trauma and disorder are still there. It’s honestly kind of insulting that it’s played off as Spinel just being a clingy and toxic person who magically gets better the moment she get love. The abandonment issues never leave. The anger never leaves. The constant need to push others away before they hurt you never leaves. People with *severe* mental illnesses like BPD, or even trauma can’t always control the way they act, and they certainly can’t control the way they feel. Serious therapy is needed. The reason a lot of people relate to her is because of that. She didn’t instantly get better at the end of the movie just like I will never fully recover. It hurt to have that stripped away.
Also, I didn’t say anything about it, but Rebecca has proven to be pretty ableist when it comes to Spinel.
Ryan Carson Also, also, please don’t use the word lunatic when referring to her behavior. She’s coded with a serious mental disorder whether Rebecca meant to code her like that or not. People with the disorder aren’t fully in control of their feelings, and disregarding their actions as just being a lunatic is horrible. I’m working on getting a diagnosis myself. You don’t know what kind of hell it is to deal with.
One of my least favorite things about Future, besides the finale, is the fact that Steven tried to murder White Diamond in cold blood and it never gets mentioned again.
You can't just attempt to murder the leader of the gem empire and pretend it never fucking happened.
Yeah that kinda made me mad 💀
They should’ve just stopped at the movie tbh
He didn’t try to murder white, he was trying to injure himself or more specifically his gem (or Rose,
/Pink) for everything she’s put him through. He’s able to control people with he’s extremely emotional so when he started controlling white it was just a reflection of his own emotional state, being anger towards the life Rose/Pink left for him
Yeah, I actually agree, tbh 💀
I can't believe I've sat here and listened to sans's long lost cousin rant on about Steve universe future for 23:24 minutes straight
The worst episodes of Steven in to the future are #1 Stevens father Greg not meeting with his parents and Steven not to get to know them.
#2 Sadie not apologizing to her mom and keeping a distance between her and her mom and not even apologizing to her mom and I know your mom can be embarrassing but still she’s still her mom and you just can’t keep people away.
I actually have to say, as a parent, Greg telling Steven he's proud is just his unconditional love shining through. He swore he wouldn't be a controlling dictator like his parents. He's expressing to Steven that even at his very, very worst, he loves him and that he'll always be a safe place. It's one of the very few Future moments I admire.
He didnt even raise him though. He probably could have lived in the gem house with everyone. Or at least parked his van there
Loving your child doesn't mean that you should be "proud" of everything they do, especially when they nearly just killed you in a rage. But as the other person replied, I feel that only works if greg actually raised steven, which he didn't. He was barely around and didn't even know the danger that steven was getting into until like the end of season 2 or season 3. Even afterwards, he let his underage child go fight alien overlords instead of fighting harder to keep him away from danger after steven ran from him and got abducted the first time.
no, greg definitely should've just apologized for never being like a real human father to steven, steven could have gone to school and the doctor if greg let him. Yeah he needed to save the universe but his father still should have been with him more. especially since he basically had no mother and 3 siblings that never understood human feelings
@@luvazalea_ bro it's not that deep the cartoon is fake
@@wisp1740 what do you even mean. The show literally says all of that.
In "Fragments", steven looks like he has aged because he also has the ability to change his age based on his emotions. But what makes it worse, is that the only time this power was used, WAS IN THE FIRST SEASON!!!! AND IT WAS NEVER BROUGHT UP AGAIN UNTIL NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was kinda in the second season in an irrelevant episode so in conclusion...
It's just as stupid
I mean technically it’s an irrelevant power
I cant see any useful situations that he could use that,he can just change his body age its not like he gets a massive boost of power using that ability
I liked Steven Universe Future . I think there was a lot of meaningful plot. Yes, there was no outright globe-threatening danger Steven and the Crystal Gems have band together against, instead, I think the show was a lot more psychological as Steven deals with the trauma of his childhood. You can see this in the opening sequence - white diamond is shown as more open and happy, yet her specter still haunts the intro. Each of the episodes address trauma in some way, sometimes taking multiple episodes to express the ramifications of the arc. For example, episode 4 deals with "Volleyball's" literal trauma due to the violence she experienced with Pink Diamond manifested in a wound on her face. As Steven and Pearl help "Volleyball," not only does Pearl and Volleyball reconcile some of their hardships with Pink, but Steven heals some of the complex relationship he has with his mother, Rose. With Greg, we see his own trauma considering the way his parents raised him and his subsequent inability to discipline Steven in episode 15--- his eyes strained in his optimistic, carefree parenting as the sound of the episode drowns out with Steven feeling stuck with the knowledge that his father is unable to help him.
I think they even addressed this in the show. At one point, somebody (i forget who) gives the advice that you need conflict in order to keep a story going. The show obviously doesn't do this, and instead turns to a new mode of storytelling, something which might bore viewers.
I didn't really like Steven Universe Future's depiction of Homeworld, yet I think this was purposeful. There's a flattening of all the characters in Homeworld, including Spinel, because they're not really his family, but instead are Pink's. Additionally, White's confession is laughably bad, because Rebecca wants us to know White is not redeemed. The diamonds' existence in Steven's life, while technically his family, are like the distant inlaws trying to make a change but not really well liked still due to the aura of bs they've spouted, and are really more abstractly tied to his mom than Steven.
And the show has a great solution to the intense episodes long buildup of Steven's inner monster. Instead of a 10 second hug solving all of his problems, Steven has to get away from beach city and start his new (young adult) life. He turns away from the epicenter of his past, and his mom's past, and all the Crystal Gems' past, and looks toward the future.
Thankyou for the video. It's really well made got me thinking about the show, so thankyou.
bless you
You forgot to mention
connie's speech is just her saying "yeah it is all of your fault I'm the only good person here"
fr💀
She ain’t wrong
Like she isn’t wrong tho
she didnt even say she was the only good person lol
@@dreamdesk7258 Nah. I may be in minority, but I never liked Connie. There were a few too many times she was wrong in the original series, and she never apologized to Steven or anyone else. So to me, Connie was just as fallible as everyone else, if not more so.
Steven universe wants to talk about mature topics, but they never execute them in mature ways.
Well said
It's a children's show. I like it anyways it's one of the few shows that actually knows how to talk about mature issues in a honest way. That's better than most shows that either don't talk about it or if they do it's always fixed in a happy way that isn't real and the character go back to normal like they aren't affected at all. I think that aspect is very underappreciated since that is a bigger issue in media where everything is put in this happily ever after way when that's not how the real world work at all. I think it's a pioneer in that way
@@jg3825 I get what you're trying to say, but it's sort of contradictory. As you said you prefer when shows don't talk about it only to solve it in a happy way where everything goes back to normal? That's literally what happens in SU:F. The whole PTSD thing? I know they say Steven has a therapist now, but the entire handling of PTSD was honestly disgusting. (I would know, I've been diagnosed and treated for it myself. ) I would prefer a show not talk about mature subjects if they can't resolve them in a mature way, otherwise you muddy the water even further regarding whatever subject you're trying to handle. I'm sorry if this comes across as rude, that was not my intention.
@@julianasohmer6176 it's a kids show bro. you are supposed to chew down the information for them. 5 year olds watch this stuff
@@julianasohmer6176 While I agree with you, I knew about SU:F to be cut by cartoon network and their development of the plot as well.
If it's fast or just not clear enough, while it's a kids show and there's mental illnesses in the plot, more time with CN would be enough to do it better than they did.
There's kind of been a trend of shows that delve into mental health issues as they get older, and it's not always compelling because it's usually a cover up in a live action show for a writing team/showrunner changing and the budget and cast getting smaller.
It gets frustrating when cast and budgets got bigger, but the shows feel like they lost focus. 11 minutes at a time and animation is not always the right format to tell mental health stories. Animation depression worked for Bojack Horseman and mental health and wackiness can go together like Crazy Ex Girlfriend (but both those shows had viewers drop off at the end and left the zeitgeist mostly forgotten).
Young Justice had a season long depression arc in S3 and kind of repeated the arc in S4 which made those shows feel like it was circling the drain. House and Castle did something similar, though like a lot of late series TV, lost a big chunk of the main cast and budget and writers and showrunners changed with Jodi Whittaker and Peter Capaldi Doctor's in Doctor Who when the shows forgot how to be fun instead of broody or depressing.
I think the main think is, by doing what a lot of other shows are already doing, what the news media is also doing, what DCEU is doing, you lost the sense of subversive counter-culture that gave Steven Universe it's identity in the first place.
Everyone is on a spectrum of love and sexual identity and sexual attraction in the show and Steven was upbeat despite having a lot of emotional baggage and the show let the viewer sit back and soak it all in while also telling us to remember love.
What other show was surface level this simple and subsurface this complex? Maybe Crazy Ex Girlfriend, but not many.
So it changed a lot and lost it's identity when it stopped being covertly complex and started to be overtly complex (which is telling not showing and also when you explain jokes and ideas, they're always less special and nuanced). Breaking the show don't tell rule that lead to a deeper understanding was maybe not the best idea. Plus music did go downhill, and music was a big part of the character.
dude forgets that steven universe future was addressing his trauma and leading up to it
I think the reason that Steven looks different after training with Jasper is that it was established in season 1 that Steven could change his appearance based on his emotions/state of mind. So he obviously felt much older and stronger when he was with Jasper, but once he shattered her he felt weak, and like he couldn't escape Pink Diamond, no matter how hard he tried
nice point
show: things were rushed because we ran out of time/were limited :(
also show: *adds way too many filler episodes*
edit: oops nvm lol he mentioned that
eh...weren't much filler really...I can think of atleast 1 episode but....eh
@@xavierazhar8744 since the plot was mainly about steven's own mental health it really did. songs weren't that bad either
@Stalls for what future was about (being steven's own mental issues and tackling some stuff that was left over in the original show) rose buds I wouldn't count as that does focus on somethign unanswered int he original series. same with bluebird. snow day was technically more so focused on steven's own issues really. why so blue is focusing on how gems react to the new era 3 of gems and how things have changed under the diamond authority which was interesting/ A very special episdode? was none of that and was obviously filler
Xavier Azhar Don’t blame Rebecca Sugar for Cartoon Networks apathy and sabotage
@Stalls eh...aquamarne and topaz wouldn't really get along anymore remember? it's nice that eyeball and aquamarine got a annswer as to what happened to them as this was kinda like part of what this epilogue series would do really and yeah their question did get answered as they did appear in future and it's clear there just gonna spend time just going around being annoying and wanting revenge against steven.the purpose of showing how different gems would react? true but this time it shows a different kind of gem being more lapisis and how unlike jasper who is more neutral now those lapisis just wanna cause more destruction
Steven: being mad that he didn't go to school
In that one episode:
Greg:🎶i can get you to collage🎶
Steven: but IM always with the gems
Oh a child? Preferring what he’s used to? How unheard of! And how, pray tell, would he ever get through college if he never went to school in the first place? What his sats scores will just appear?
Nice video, great points and I can see where you are coming from
Ya’ll remember that power that Steven had that made him able to go in another gem’s mind? WE LITERALLY NEVER SEE THAT POWER AGAIN
What season was that on???
@@KrazyKaoMar season 3
He literally did that in Future to White..>When White was in his mind he ended up Controlling her instead using his mind gem powers....Also in Escapism he used it to become the watermelon which saved their lifes
@@tyronjanuary263 actually for white that was more so I reversal of white's own power really
YEAH I DON’T REMEMBER HOW PINK HAD IT
Steven: *crying that the gems won't reach to him and trying to understand his problems*
The gems: *reaching out to him when they feel concerned and want to try understanding his problems*
Steven: *telling them to leave him*
The gems: *leave him be*
Steven: *disappointed monster roar*
THANK GOODNESS someone else noticed
Thats mental problems for ya “i don’t need help” kinda bull
@@MrVaiza I never laughed so hard when some people actually commented that Rebecca Sugar did such a good job on showing how mental problems work. 😂
@@MrVaiza that's more of a feeling of being helpless,and if you fell 10 times but 1 time someone caught you,that doesn't mean you will trust the person to catch you again.
If you understand what i'm trying to say
@@egon2499 well i mean,people related to how it was done,so it wasn't that bad.
I understand what you mean about Spinel. I personally like her when the movie was released. And also I also hated the fact that she was in her goofy appearance to how she was before 6,000 years ago, and also me personally I liked when she was always so angry sometimes and always so snappy. 💙💜
Also the hug wasn’t meant to fix all his problems it was just meant to get him out of his corrupted form
You know i feel like the Regular Show series finale WORKED was because they had the guts to kill off a major character. No other major cartoon series finale had the the guts do that. or has since. Death is more impactful.
i liked regular show soo much
Or Samurai Jack. That one also had a big finale.
Arkan NOA wait who died?
Elle Pops
DrSharkBoy 😦😐 ok
16:23 you're wrong on that one mate. That's EXAAAAAACTLY how someone with PTSD sounds: he thinks the trauma is his fault, and hes a worse person because of it.
Fr. When a person is feeling extremely overwhelmed they also experience a lot of crazy mood swings shifting from blaming everyone around them for their situation to blaming themselves for everything
All the commenters saying how SUF is a terrible example of how trauma actually works are so wrong and clearly have never suffered trauma themselves. That was actually, really realistic.
i'm watching this video and losing my braincells
@@imnogood5016 from my understanding, trauma is different for everyone, so… different perspectives?
Trauma is different for everyone so....
*It confuses me on how Spinel did the math on how much poison it would take to kill earth's life.*
*Also that is a really accurate Steven voice.*
I feel like pearl and bismuth and pearl and volleyball episodes were very important to show pearl’s development around the loss of rose, but I do agree that a lot of the episodes should have mattered at the end of the plot. I honestly wish that Steven and pearl actually had a talk about it.
I am confused on why Spinel didn't say shit in the finale when they were all hugging Steven. Spinel is probably the closest gem to have a similar experience as Steven yet she didn't say anything? Smh. Future was terrible.
And i also think Bismuth and Lapis should of said something too especially Lapis since she also has those experience too.
This
THIS
I wanted Spinel to pay it forwards
eh...she did follow him to earth to help him out though. her own issues really weren't the same though.still wouldn't call future terrible
One word. Writers. Terrible, shitty writers that don’t know the meaning of good writing.
Spinel is not a deep character, yes, she suffered but not in such a complex way as to give her a plot
You know, watching spinel in both films gave me this vibe:
Spinel in the SU movie: 1080p 60fps
Spinel in SU Future: 144p 10fps
makes me sad :/
Always has been.
@@stevenquartzuniverse6526 thats not your full name
@@stevenquartzuniverse6526 your full name is Steven Quartz Cutiepie Demayo Diamond Universe.
@@seanratcliffmusic And so what, a lot of cartoons have great animations and action scenes even if doesn't have movie budget.
Not only that, she looks ASTRONOMICALLY better in the movie too. They changed her measures and it makes her look much worse...what a waste honestly.
I don't want to sound like a jerk, okay
But watching this video made me think about one thing
"Do y'all even understand anything at this point?"
because it doesn't take a genius to understand the points of the show:
1. It's about Steven being a human
2. It's about the future of everyone in the show after season 5
3. This isn't the final season, just a limited sequel spinoff
4. It talks about trauma and realistic issues (something that many shows wouldn't dare to talk about)
5. I feel like y'all can't accept characters for being themselves or for expressing themselves the realistic way.
In my perspective, this limited sequel spinoff opened my eyes into things in the original show. It showed me how trauma affected Steven and his life, and it also showed us the original show in another perspective and how people did change.
Also, just a reminder that NOT every good show is a protagonist having to fight an antagonist for a whole season or something
And no offense at all after all I said, but I CAN'T WATCH THIS VIDEO OR YOUR REASONING WITHOUT CRINGING OUT
Do you want me to say something else ???
"she acts like shes on drugs"
blue's clouds are pretty much drugs so your not wrong
Future's overarching plot is that steven is suffering with his trauma and ptsd, not every show needs to have a villain to physically fight
yeah trauma that was never shown in the actual show and no one is saying that we need a villain
@@GamerGamerGamer77777 Half of this video is complaining about how future didn't have a villain
@@SquirtleEatsAll actually it isn't how about you watch again without being biased towards the show
@@GamerGamerGamer77777 You're right. All of this video is complaining there's no villain in future and how there isn't an overarching plot because there isn't a new villain.
Oh and blatant misrepresentation and disregard of what future and the main show setup as rules of the universe and character motivation
@@SquirtleEatsAll ua-cam.com/video/iGvo9VhW2tk/v-deo.html it's a video you shoul watch
I feel like this happened
SU crew: “hey we’re going end the show”
CN: “no”
SU crew: “ok how about another season?”
CN: “and a movie”
SU crew: “ok fine a movie too”
CN: “and a rushed miniseries”
SU crew: *”W h a t”*
screw u
It was actually the other way around. The crewniverse wanted to do more for Future, but Cartoon Network rushed them about finishing it.
Child Meat
No I think they wanted to end on the movie but they had to do future
The roblox Freak
Shiver me timber’s I’m so sad
@@SomeGuyOnYT Oh, okay. I was just going with what I heard. Thank you for correcting me ^^
i disagree with most of this video besides your point at 16:15 . That was literally so random what tf was steven talking abt i feel like they just ripped that out of there as$ to give steven a monologue, like i guess it could make sense? But i feel like something could be more fitting instead of "I'm a fraud." That doesn't seem like the problem steven is going through.
your dissappointment with steven universe future is the same as my disappointment watching this video
Don’t forget to add that Steven almsot killed people multiple times, attempting to kill all his friends in that shrinking force field, jasper, almost killed his dad by ripping the steering wheel off the car, and possessing white diamonds into smashing her head into a column.
I remember being excited for Future after watching the movie, now I'm sad that Future ended up being bad
I feel your pain
@@Hydroshott Thanks
I feel you bro
@@bizzah6524 From a bro to another bro, thanks
@@bizzah6524 I'm really gonna start thanking anyone that replies to my comment now aren't I
(Not like a fandom Ian way but like) bro said “that makes no sense” in a world where the galaxy has intercosmic democracy 💀💀💀
ranking the episodes:
20. a very special episode
19. why so blue
18. rose buds
17. in dreams
16. bluebird
15. mr universe
14. bismuth casual
13. snow day
12. everything’s fine
11. prickly pair
10. the future
9. guidance
8. i am my monster
7. together forever
6. little homeschool
5. homeworld bound
4. little graduation
3. growing pains
2. fragments
1. volleyball