Lindsey Vonn to Mikaela Shiffrin: My door is always open
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- World-champion skier Lindsey Vonn says that there are some serious trials facing US ski racing, including how it treats its athletes. She wants to help with the recruitment of young talent, but acknowledges that funding may be a difficult hurdle. Vonn also talks about her challenging relationship with fellow skiing phenom Mikaela Shiffrin. Vonn criticizes Shiffrin’s leadership style, and questions Outside Magazine’s claim that Shiffrin is the world’s greatest.
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Why do I admire Ms Shiffrin even more after this interview?
Because she has a ton of class and she's a winner of the highest order.
LV has always struggled to give credit to others or accept blame. With all the wins she never seemed truly happy. When she didn't win she seldom offered congratulations to those who beat her and often times came up with excuses for why her run wasn't fair. Lindsey wants to relegate Mikaela's talent to slalom and clearly feels threatened that her mantel of GOAT could be short lived. Meanwhile when LV was at the same point in her career that Mikaela is now she had a total of 13 WC victories compared to Mikaela's 66 victories. Of those 13, 10 were downhill, 2 SG, 1 combined, so pretty much a speed skier. Mikaela has 6 wins in speed and 11 in GS to go along with 43 slalom. The numbers speak for themselves, Mikaela is a far more well rounded skier who is taking speed wins despite her heavy focus on technical events. I think every time Lindsey opens her mouth she probably makes herself feel worse.
This all said I hope Mikaela stays away from DH. It always lead to a path of terrible crashed and body destruction. As a avoid skier and lover of Killington VT I have been fortunate enough to witness Mikaela's greatness on the FIS tour the last few years.
Comparing apples to oranges over the winners podium is part of the supremacists ego each has to ski their run in the place of their placement and under the conditions handed to them .They're all great skiers LV just fell more pushing her envelope . And now it's over for lv and as she reflects the saddest words are what might have been.
I worked at the hotel they were staying at for the races at Aspen and Vonn was always on her own and not fraternising with the other skiers whereas Shiffrin was talking to everyone who came up to her and actually hanging out with her teammates
I really loved Lindsey and I still do lot but the fact that she tries to narrow Mikaela's talent down to just being the "greatest SLALOM skier" is a bit unfair to say in my opinion. Yes, she does not have as many World Cup wins yet but with her 66 wins she is quite close (to Lindsey's 82), has won in all five disciplines such as Lindsey already (just more in SL and GS and Linds in DH and SG), has more Gold medals in World Champs and Olympics than her and is still very young. I understand Lindsey that she was upset as this article apparently came out while she was still skiing but once again: it would be unfair to narrow Mikaela's talent down to just being a great SLALOM skier as that's clearly not all.
Mikaela is now tied with Lindsey's 82.
Mikaela probably is the best rounded American skier since Bode Miller, which also was great (in his own unique way) at every discipline. Lindsey has always been more of a speed skier, though she did participate in all of them too.
Just to inform, a whole-day ticket in Europe (especially in Alps) definitelly doesn't cost 15€ 😅
As someone that doesn't know either of these ladies personally, take what I say with a grain of salt. Lindsey strikes me as someone that would take any opportunity to compete if she thought she was able. Mikaela, on the other hand, seems to be very measured with regard to both her physical and mental state. If she has doubts about her readiness, she will not compete. Both approaches are valid. However, I believe Mikaela's approach, to this point, has been best. I think her self-awareness has served her well, and she should stick with that.
Jealousy is an ugly thing.
She’s Lindsey Vonn. She’s jealous of a girl no ones heard of? Come on
@@jerretkirouac7038 No one's heard of... when Mikaela Shiffrin's one of the biggest starts in women's sports.
These are some great comments from Lindsey on Mikaela and the state of US Ski Team. As a past USSA/FIS ski racer I know how important mental strength is for a sport like this. Having a clear mind with your own gameplan at the forefront is critical. Others' opinions and thoughts can easily mislead you from what your plan is. Mikaela has the recipe for success dialed, why should she want to be influenced by others who are not as successful? To Lindsey's point on being a leader and helping others is something else. It would be awesome if the US had a team of all Mikaela caliber athletes, she could be sharing more with the team to bring others up. And I think that's what Lindsey had wanted with her. On the state of the team I can definitely agree moving up the ranks in the USSA and FIS program was very challenging and often felt unobtainable. College athletes often go overlooked as the college programs are separate from the USSA. Cost is another issue that in my case ultimately ended my pursuit. Having enough opportunity and exposure to see the fastest racers is huge. Having the US team members at regional events like the Lutsen spring series was inspirational. If the team is not seeing up any upcoming athletes they need to remove as many hurdles as possible to pave the way for future stars.
This made Lindsey look bad.. jealous, did she call herself a goat? Sad really...
Bull shit! Lindsey is the Best of All Time. As of right now. What skiing rock have you been living under? Lindsey is the winningest woman snow skier of all time, in all the world, since snow skiing stated. That is the GOAT my friend. It's sad you don't know Lindsey is just stating what is fact.
@@igoski1582 Mikaela is tied with Lindsay right now with 82. She was pretty salty about it.
Lindsey says it perfectly here- Shiffrin is the winningest slalom skier of all time, but not the overall g.o.a.t. (Vonn 82 world cup wins, Shiffrin 67, both have 3 olympic medals, Vonn has 8 world championship medals to Shiffrin's 7).
Is it that hard for a reporter to add the words slalom, downhill or overall instead of lumping it together? Vonn and Shiffrin's w.c. wins are almost the exact opposite across the 4 disciplines: DH, SuperG, GS, and Slalom. Vonn had 66 Downhill wins but only 2 slalom, Shiffrin has 43 slalom and only 2 downhill.
If you've skied a downhill course versus slalom course or just seen it on TV, you can see the difference in technique is probably as big a difference in technique as between running a marathon versus running the 100 meter hurdles! If talking about runners, no one would lump every track distance and discipline together and then pick one 'greatest runner of all time'!
sports media need to show skiing and these female athletes respect, don't try to create a rivalry that didn't exist and lump them together- separately they are each the g.o.a.t. for their area of specialty.
Vonn's great, but Miki's so much more down to earth and is elegant to watch.
Vonn is bitter about Shiffrin as always.
@Coach Nosebutter Thats quite obviuos.
@@regiment589 if she acknowledged her she's not bitter. she's just correcting what's supposed to be said. media, just like what she said, manipulates some of the stuff.
@@melkadyo Shiffrin is way ahead of Vonn at the same age. Vonn cant stand it at all.
@@regiment589 again whatever their status were if she acknowledged it then it means there is respect. If she doesnt like it privately thats a different talk. Would she rather not say she is not good?
@@melkadyo Vonn just said obvious thing - Shiffrin is the best slalom skier ever. But shes so bitter about her she couldnt say more.
You both are the best. ♥
I gotta agree with the comments here. Why go out of your way to disrespect Mikaela Shiffrin? Besides being the best skier in the world the past 5 years, Mikaela has been the classiest skier. She always goes out of her way to congratulate her opponents when they beat her. Always. She has never publicly uttered a bad word about anyone. Never. Vonn simply cannot deal with the fact that Mikaela will almost certainly end her career with more wins than she has. She claimed that Outdoor Mag calling Mikaela the best ever didn’t bother her, but she then said it was disrespectful, tweeted about it, and relegated Mikaela to being merely the best slalom skier ever. I feel sorry for Vonn that she’s so insecure and bitter about her place in skiing history. Vonn is one of the best skiers ever. She’s definitely on the Mount Rushmore of skiers. She’s undoubtedly the toughest and most fearless skier ever. It’s impossible not to admire her tenacity, courage, and abilities, but it’s unfortunate that she is so insecure about her place in history. Is Joe Montana bitter that Tom Brady won two more superbowls? The truth is that Mikaela has the same level of talent as Vonn, but unlike Vonn she is way better at managing the risks. Which is why Mikaela has suffered no major injury in her career and has won more races much more quickly than Vonn. Think about NFL QBs would can run. And think about the ones who had the best and longest careers. Is it the guy who ran with reckless abandon and head first into the teeth of the defense or the guy who picked his spots and always slid feet first. How about hockey? His much longer and better would Eric Lindross have been if he left the forechecking and aggressive play to enforcers? Bully for Lyndsey for skiing with reckless abandon, but she has only herself to blame for many if not most of her injuries. But I am officially done caring about Lyndsey Vonn. I have better things to do than to care about such a poor sport who needlessly felt the need to trash Mikaela Shiffrin.
Right on!
Vonn complains about the media, yet decision after decision she’s made has kept her in the spotlight because she can’t live without the attention. She’s just a slightly less trashy version of Hope Solo. Shiffrin should stay far far far away from the train wreck of a person that Vonn is. Look at the social media of Shiffrin vs. Vonn and tell me which one lives a better life. It ain’t Vonn. She’s obsessed with herself and it’s frankly just sad.
yes, she is wright. On the US skiing is way more expensive than Europe. That is the main reason the UE is developing so many good skiers!
Loving this Lindsey Vonn interview so far. Great job as always Graham.
Vonn was a fierce competitor. Mikeala is a strong competitor with huge natural talent. If given another year or two Mikeala would definitely be the worlds best all around ski racer of all time. Sounds like she doesnt have her head in the game though from all the hardships and BS from the CV . That would be a tragedy if Mikeala quit the tour. Maybe if Mikeala watches this interview it will piss her off enough to get back into ski racing 110%. Cmon Mikeala Destroy the competition. Take no prisoners . Your the only one that can do it.
that didn't age well, Mikeala is never that great on speed event!
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My guess is China rigged her skis to fail so an American wouldnt win. HAHAHA. Seriously I dont think Mikeala has ever dnf,ed twice in a row in her career. Very odd.
Lindsey is a national--and international--resource. I was training at Mt Hood one summer back in the 90s when my Palmer lift-ride partner started chatting me up. Turned out to be Lindsey's father, Mr Kildow. It was easy to tell that he was extremely proud of Lindsey. I said "wow, your daughter is on her way to the ski team!" (Lindsey as a teen-ager was already showing her talent.) He said something like "yeah, looks like it, but we'll see." And we did! ☺️
Sorry, as awesome as Lindsey is, Milkala will blow Ingamar’record away before too long. All hail Mikaela.
It DID look that way for a while - yet all the other skiers studied how she was winning by such large margins and adopted the ways -
just as we pieced this together by studying racers from Stein Eriksen to Jean-claude Killy to Bernard Knauss, and of course the great I. Stenmark!
Waaaaa! They said she was best and I was still getting hurt all the time. Waaaaa! I offered her my help but she didn’t take it. Waaaaa! She’s not the best I’M THE BEST!!!!!!! Waaaaa!!!
She is spot on. Just because somebody owns an event, that doesn’t make them the worlds greatest skier implying over all! The press does a lot of disservice to people. It divides rather than unite. Lindsey is second to none and just as talented in her own specialty.
Mikaela 82, in few days and maybe this season Stenmark 86 will be history
What 150 Dollars a ticket??? I feel robbed when I have to fork out 50 Euros here in Europe.
I just looked up a Day Pass in Big Sky for December 25 - $194. Absolutely outrageous.
in Vail it is over $200 a day. skiing is literally dying sport in America. the median age of a skier is getting older and older every year because of the crazy wealth gap that exists in America. most Americans are quite poor while the rich sit around and collect interest of the poor people all day.
@@GSAirTherapy That is without a doubt, unconstitutional.
Well she does have a point as they both specialized in different disciplines.
Just running across this today when Mikaela won a downhill and inching closer to 4th all around globe. LV had 4 also. I read LV book and seems she has major issues getting along with teammates but seems to say it's them and not her. Anyway LV a great champion but this is a cringy bad look
The big reason the US ski team is not getting enough good talent is simply money. Ski racing is generally a sport of the rich or at the very least well off. Yes I know there have been few outliers. Just how it is and I don't see that ever changing. The cost of a day ski ticket is insane, fortunately season passes make it doable. I have the ski virus so not skiing is not an option but it has put a strain on my relationships. My present wife gets it.
@Elhesh Just the cost of bikes is expensive. I am a recreational rider and it’s easy to spend a few grand on a bikes or a grand in wheels. I can’t imagine how much it cost for racing. You have to live it and as I said for me skiing is not an option. Neither is mountain biking or backpacking. I have to be outside. Take care
@Elhesh Thanks for sharing your experience. Your friends and you must have been very good riders. You did get to live it though. Great experience I am sure.
There are two great impostors in life WINNING AND LOSING.
- Rudyard Kipling
Shiffrin is a better all round woman skier and she does not have a big ego like Vonn. Just my opinion. She also has a better personality advertisers are looking for. The reason we don’t have a lot of women great women’s skiers on the team is the sport is ridiculous expensive. You need to have wealthy parents or sponsors. The cost for lift tickets, coaches, training time, travel and equipment. The team travels to Chile or New Zealand during summer months. Only a few kids can do this. The sport is more supported by countries and fans in Europe. It is a dangerous sport and there are a lot of knee injuries.
She’s lost. Sad.
Well these two ladies are both extraordinary in many ways, but in two ways in particular, namely that they are both extremely talented and successful, and they are both fiercely competitive and ambitious, and who wouldn’t be if you had the kind of rare talent they each have? But, they’re both changing all the time and have changed since this interview as Lindsey is becoming more famous for other things besides her skiing and Mikaela has transitioned to a more independent lifestyle without losing much of her former ambition and desire to perfect her skills, although she provided has lost some, I mean, come on, how could you not be she’ll shocked by whatever happened, still she’s so phenomenal that she’s still in one piece even after all that and is still going really strong so she’s not likely to just stop pursuing her fame and fortune unless she becomes a fan of Elvis Presley and decides that she no longer wants fame and fortune, right? How’s that supposed to happen?
Great ...
There do seem to be any number of US lady racers who would likely benefit from Lindsey Vonn's coaching / advice in the speed events especially. It sounds a bit like Lindsey wants to be a part of the USST in some form. It seems the team should grab her. Logic says the winningest US ski racer ever should be able to help the people coming after her.
Please, PLEASE ask Ms. Vonn if she might try going at Speed Skiing -
It is far simpler and safer than a World Cup downhill course, and with runs under 10 seconds long not as nearly demanding -
then she could be...
'THE Fastest Skier in the World' (and fastest non-powered human on earth) - if she can top 160mph that is.
Also men and women use the same course and same equip., and she/we would like that.
I don't think she's bitter though that's initially what I thought. I think some of it is that it still kind of hurts to even think about ski racing right now because for the first time in her life she's not only not in it but not going back. Also, when she said that the media sensationalizes things she wasn't trying to say that Mikeala is overrated. What she was saying is that Mikeala is the best slalom skier ever right now because she is. But she isn't the greatest of all time, yet. That doesn't mean she won't respect the crap out of her when she does become the GOAT. Is Lindsey still struggling with the fact that she got that close? Probably. When you have a childhood dream and you want it so bad and you get so close it hurts. At the same time I remember when Abby Wambach did that Gatorade commercial and she was saying "Forget me. Forget I ever existed", it was about not letting it stop with her. I think Lindsey was trying to be careful about how she worded her answer. So they aren't that close, big deal. I think Lindsey sort of takes personally the fact that Mikeala kind of shuts herself off with her own team of people. Lindsey herself used to do that and found out that support from your teammates can really help. When you're young and successful, you don't always see both sides of the coin. On one hand Shiffrin is an amazing elite athlete and her system works for her and that's great. At the same time, while ski racing is very much individualized, you also are a team. Lindsey was trying to be a supportive teammate. Plus Lindsey initially started out skiing slalom. She switched over to speed. It's very difficult to be successful across all disciplines. That's why most people focus on one or the other. Lindsey is one of the few people that has won races across all disciplines.
Mikaela is now tied with Lindsay's 82. Mikaela did it in 231 and it took Lindsay 395. Mikaela is 27 and Lindsay got to 82 at age 33.
awesome. I think you maybe don't have a clear view of how exceptionally you have your stuff together. Glad you're working with US Skiiing BTW, like I said once, lots of people do consulting without knowing what they're talking about, so someone who does, -really- know is a gem.
So funny to hear Vonn if not tear down then minimize another woman. Shame shame on her.
This whole thing is absolutely ridiculous!! Lindsey has her talents and Mikaela hers! No one unless your an athlete yourself should be judging what other people say because you have NO IDEA how they truly feel and whats its like!! Especially after spending your entire life devoted to a sport!!!
Who the hell wants to be called a goat, LV is deserves of a much better title than that.
MS is the greatest skier who ever lived. Compare age and wins and the answer is obivous. Vonns is just jealous.
It would be awesome to see her coach.
It is a bit easier to win in big numbers in slalom than in the speed disciplines.
Lindsey Vonn is officially a jerk: You just don't do that, ever! People used to say that she was just mean, butch, and how things would end up with her; as now it's all a reality! Not only do you not ever do that, you especially don't do that now! When someone is the best skier; you praise it! Unsportsmanlike conduct at best; a horrific monster either way!
LV has a hole that no one can fill.
Wha-Wha-Wha!
Resent and Bitterness is the tone here. she has yet
to see that the choices she made outside ski racing
impacted her inside and made who she is today. so sad...
what choices? not being mean just genuinely curious what your talking about
Well...for one dissing her own country and president Trump while SKIING ON A USA TEAM.
There ya go.
Is LV bitter? Yes I think so, but mostly at being unable to achieve her goals. Listening to her I think about interviews with all sorts of other GOAT contenders - Jordan, Woods, Brady, Nadal, Federer..... They all have sounded like jerks to me. Even some of the more recent interviews with Ms Shiffren were not very flattering. I chalk it up to a character trait that allows them to excel, but also makes it difficult for them to find peace and purpose within themselves. Lendl and McEnroe, Navratilova, .... It's easy to find examples of jerks in the GOAT pantheon. I also realize that most of my examples come from individual sports. There's a pattern here...
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I was a fan of Vonn when my Janica Kostelic has retired, but i dont like her any more, look Federer, Nadal and Djokovic this guys never be sad words that Vonn sad, Vonn is bitter without any reason, she be always be queen of downhill but she has not be for long best skiers ever that will be Mikaela Shiffrin and i love it, she say that she is best ever, that the most popular sportman in the World in last 15 years Roger Federer dont be say never because he has respect to Nadal, Djokovic and what Federer and Djokovic say about Nadal suceses at Roland Garros that he is only king for now because he is Emperor of clay and Roland Garros, that is sport Rafa will never sad he is a goat because he mayby will have 1 or 2 most slam of Federer and Djokovic, Vonn is not the good sportsman i live for the day when Mikaela passes Vonn, shame sking is very dangerous sport and what Mikaela pass after losses his father, she will won overall title last year but she stay with her mum, Mikaela deserve this because we all now that she is better than Vonn
2 great sportswomen. Mikaela is going to break a whole lotta records. Maybe she has better EPO than Lindsay.......... i don't know.But we look at their sports achievements and think their super human......... which they both are not. Just the over-achieving mentality of all these athletes will take its toll. We only watch the highlight reels of their lives and pass judgement.
Shiffrin will never have the impact on the sport that Vonn has regardless of how many records or wins she wracks up. Vonn's personality is relatable, we felt her emotions, we felt like we were winning with her. They are different people, both excellent skiers but Vonn's personality and approach to the sport were significantly more entertaining to watch and we all felt like rooting for her. Vonn skis like it means everything to her, she throws her whole self into it. Shiffrin is more technical and reserved, doesn;t ski when she's not sure she will win, doesn't take big risks, and that's made her successful but I want to watch someone who is fired up, who struggles and comes back from lows to be on top again, who takes risks. Vonn is who I grew up looking up to because of that struggle and that fire.
WHAT A JOKE! Get over yourself! Calling your self a G.O.A.T! Really. Not based on the stats.
Her stats are better than Shiffrin's and she didn't call herself the GOAT she just said that Shiffrin is not the GOAT which is true by the stats.
@@loon3111I feel so much smarter now! Thanks! Anything else you want to clear up for me or educate me on? Fact is the content on this page is sub-par!
@@donarmstrong4166 Don, buddy, why are you so jumpy? Are you happy being this uptight and aggressive? You should take a you day and just pamper yourself, maybe get a massage, a facial and go find your zen.
@@loon3111 give me a break...you and Lindsey must suffer from the same problems...
Sking is very unobtainable for a great many people in the U.S.
many have been priced right out. I love skiing but I wouldn’t pay the lift ticket prices today the are outrageous.
this is not how you cultivate talent.
wishing she would go out quietly, less bathtub porn, less me me me, we don't care about her latest boy friends, just ski and crash, or be quiet pls, ms. me me. you were once a great skier. we all remember.
Sampras, Federer ......
Elles sont mariés !!!...
Satire: Is she a LGTB? They are competitors, why leave the door open?
It goes downwards for USA...as you speak! 🤣
Wasn't it good..?
/BEN, Sweden
Mikaela has likely not slept around as much.
If you can't fault a woman's talent and dedication, go for the old sexist double standard and cast aspersions on her sexual proclivity. Male sports personalities never have to put up with that sort of crap.
wow way to slut shame one of the greatest athletes of all time. now that you're done here, why don't you go say the same about lionel messi or rafael nadal or lebron james. you wont will you
@@deaddoll1361 male sports personalities arent as valued for their appearance. if lindsey vonn was homely do you think she would be 1/10th as famous? no.
No matter how many wins Mikaela gets she ll never be like Vonn.... neither will have impact on sport loke Vonn had
Shiffrin races slalom. LV races downhill. Going 80+ mph with 200+ cm skis at over 4x the distance takes way more skill and training. Why do you think Shiffrin started racing the easy DH on circuit? She doesn’t want the same asterisk next to her name the Stenmark has.
No my friend Shiffrin and Vonn ski in all 5 disciplines, Roland Garros is as a Wimbledon is mayor, what you think what major of this 2 is harder to win, Roland Garros is most hardest to win slam but all 4 are majors 7 round in the best of 5, slam is slam, all tennis players in the world they biggest dream is win major not to be nomber 1 in the World list, if one day 1 player only win in 1 slam 21 major he is a goat, in tennis my favorit slam is Roland Garros but in ski downhill but win is a win, and if you dont now that first 2 disciplines was slalom and Downhill, like in tennis 2 most popular slams a Wimbledon and Roland Garros, in this 2 sports most speed courts and more slowest court are most prestige, but win is a win Nadal 20 Federer 20,and i think this comentar from Vonn is awful, i have argument that i say that a best female skiers is Janica Kostelic 3 gold and 1 silver on only 1 olimpic game, than again 2 medals from olimpic 1 gold 1 silver, 3 overall titles and in last season of her she win in all 5 disciplines in one year and she has retiried at age 24 because she is from country where i live but no ho will have more wins she would be a goat, end of story
I didn’t know that Serbia allowed women to ski.
@@yulmp2 i am not for Serbia but Novak is a great human being, but of big 3 my favorit is Rafa because i cant belive that 13 Roland garros