Fun thing me and my friends discovered with her, is she uses her 3 into Nox and Nox immediately hop into her ally, Brigitte CANNOT escape, meaning, you can teleport to the fountain with Brigitte, very unlikely to happen, but funny nonetheless
I was playing her yesterday and they had a jorm solo, i dashed into him and as soon as i did he ulted so i wouldn't kill him and i couldn't get out so he took me to his tier 2 tower. I just dashed out of the tower but our solo laner was like well that was an interaction lol.
Just saying, if you are good with Thor, he counters her hard very hard. She is not hard to shut down, Ganesha put her down in the back line as well. If you can cancel her 1 you are good into her
Yeah I played 10 games with her yesterday just testing things and the only game I lost out of the 10 had a Ganesh Thor and Hel that completely shut me down whenever I would try to do anything
@@the_uhhh_merica ganesha and thor do that to anyone but even less to manan because she has an op passive that you build with some attack speed. she is pretty busted you just haven't realized it
A big thing to note for her lifesteal build, the passive counts as a single target ability, so you do get full lifesteal from it. It can give her quite a hefty amount of burst healing if she's able to proc several passives in a row.
I noticed that while doing jungle camps, with a full lifesteal build I was basically full healing off of 1 or 2 jungle camps no matter how low my health would be when I started the camp.
I find Bancrofts and Typhons are good on her, Tabuti has great synergy with her passive, and she appreciates Chronos Pendant for a bit more CDR, and last item is a flex item. bancrofts usually being upgraded to the Nimble glyph. Magi’s is a good last item, so is Magus, so is Divine, so is Telkhines for purely dealing more damage with autos, or Poly for the one auto after an ability. I personally think she has more than enough attack speed without the rings though, I think between Nimble Bancrofts and Eye of the Jungle she has plenty of attack speed.
Oh yeah Tahuti point is a good one. Maybe that should be somewhere in the build. So much to fit in. I could see Tahuti in place of doom orb tho. Lose the MS for useful synergy and a glyph potentially.
my build for Maman is Eye, into tahuti, demonic, bancrofts, typhons, poly. gives insane power, attack speed, lifesteal. her farm is good enough that you can get tahuti with first back.
Protector Coin Nimble Bancroft Chronos Deso Flex item typically antiheal, poly, or reaver Granted in casuals went 48/9/15 in an hour 10 game. Got a few Quadra and trips because she can just ignore most ults by dashing into enemies.
I didnt play her that much in conquest but ive been having good success with this: - vamp (sacrificial), chronos, deso, typhons, vancroft(had poli before here but i didnt like that id didnt proc multiple times off the 1),tahuti as per matchups. you have a hard time vs insta stuns like rat or thor, the rest you dont have a lot of issues
Passive triggers tablet and reaver. A full book build is honestly the best thing on her i mean i'm crossing 100k dmg every game that goes over 45 min and here is why. First of all dashing into someone when you leave you'll always land an auto coming out so that's an easy polyproc. If you AA cancel that with the 2 they'll have 4 stacks on them already so when you 1 now the passive will proc on them 3 times so now you proced tablet and reaver 6 times 3 times off the passive and 3 times off of her kit and you smacked them with a reaver proc. I'm killing cap mitigation and magical prots lvl 20 hercs in under 3 seconds i honestly don't think there is a better tank nuking god in the game rn.
@@andyydote Vamporic shroud with book -1 and bao recipe as a start with pots. Tablet, thoth, poly, reaver, sell recipe for typhoons sell starter for calamitous rod of tahuti it's cap % pen,double book procs which shreds tanks getting reaver proced 6 times and tablet proced 6 times, ton of power and double lifesteal.
I have a mouse with a num pad, I have it duplicating the number row so I can use my thumb for abilities, quick casting is destructive and it also makes it so you can move to the right and aim your ult at the same time
Poseidon I've discovered, is a very annoying counter, because his whirlpool shuts down your escape option and then he just summons a kraken on you and if you aren't one shotted already, you're very low on health.
Would you consider doing a video or giving your thoughts on interactions with her dash? There are some crazy interactions I’ve had. I’ve read she’s supposed to be untargetable while possessing a player. However, I lost a joust game the other day from a Heimdall ulting me out of his teammate while I was possessing them pretty much all game.
First ever game on her with some random build i put together i dropped 26 or 27 kills i don't remember exactly. We lost tho cause my teammates decided to go through a lobotomy before queueing.
I’ve been really liking elleons AO build on her. Eye->protector, rod of Tahuti, telekhines, Bancroft -> nimble, typhons, poly. You get enough power to use her passive well, and also you end up with like 2.3 attack speed with nimble kinda stupid
@@kriegaone3658 the glyphed Bancroft is for the power and attack speed to be paired with typhons and it gives lifesteal. Edit: Not to say cyclopean isn't good for 1's in a perfect 1v1 the extra 8% makes a big difference, but in an actual conquest, or arena. Killing two in 12 seconds full then full healing of 1 minion wave or jungle camp is a little bit better.
Problem wiht pure dps character like maman is that she had to do an insane amount of dmg to be reliable If she does dmg comparable to gods like thor she wont be playable because she just has a stun and a really small knockup so she is low on utility Dont get me wrong tho she is broken right now she does so much dmg, one shots with even using ult
I think she shouldnt be able to 3 into cc immune enemies. If she didn't have the second dash it would be fine cause you could run under tower or something but its such a free escape for so much with little to no counter play only counter picks.
exactly as I've said. I really hope her 3 gets nerfed to shit, there's no counter play besides using a Thor ult and going into your titan room, you can't beads/aegis, cant cleanse it with anything, can't even damage her which I feel you should be able to do but it's a 50% mitigation if allies attack at you. I'd take any form of counter play against her 3 no matter what it is it's just oppressive and nooby at the moment
It's quite hard on ping but honestly I wouldn't worry about using only 5 fuel each time. You won't ever need 20 cancels in one fight or even for farming really. The cooldown is so low that using a bit more fuel is sometimes better actually.
@@enchanter967 she is cc immune because you can't target her, ares is just an AoE effect around him that's probably coded differently and hi rez did (or maybe didnt) know about this interaction with her dash and ares ult
My friend i usually play with usually jungles and i go mid so he played her more yesterday, but he just wasn't doing good with her but none where he just fucked everyone up so i was thinking maybe she's not that crazy... but he just sucks with her or something 😂😂😂 first game i played her i was 9 and 0 at 10 mins and they surrendered lol.
But it is punishable… she might be able to dash out of you, just take her into the middle of your team.. run away from her team.. if your by yourself and not around a tower or phoenix, whelp… but she always dashing away from you when it’s done you can just aegis the damage then when she dashed out use your movement ability and get away…
@billionbagdreams it doesn't matter if it is or isn't, hi rez is lazy and should've hard coded it to not hide inside of people who aegis or beads it, it should also be cleansable because it's a pretty busted ability and she will win 99% of 1v1s because of it
This has by far been the most toxic character release. People throwing hissy fits cause you don’t build her like they do, they didn’t get to play her so they troll the match, dodging matches in lobby for the same reason, enemy smashing their face into her. MOBAs have always been toxic, but something diff is in the smite community. I went ability power instead of AA speed first day release & my solo raged their mind out. Then got his buddies to F6 the match.
I feel like it I'm the only who doesn't think she's "broken" (People keep using this word incorrectly) Release Shiva was "broken" not this. She does mad damage, yeah. But her movement is mediocre, the Maman player actually needs to be good, and she had to throw her body in to get stuff done. I'd rather deal with a good Maman than a good Ao Kuang
the dash is the most annoying thing in the game, should be able to beads it and receive only the 1 initial hit, should be able to aegis it, should be cleansable if you dont prebeads, a good way to counter it *would* be to jump into your tower or into your allies but nope she gets a 50 unit dash, she should just pop out of them instead of a full on dash, making her more risky.
to add to this the 1 is knock up immune which is crazy to me, lance is my favorite god and i play him a good amount and to just be so hard countered with the knock immunity, easy stun, and the 3 feels bad after he just got a pretty good buff. make the 1 not knock up immune 🙏🙏
A big downside to her dash is that if she dashes into a god with a long ult (Arachne, Rattaskr, Thor) She stays for the entire duration, even after dealing her damage. So you can basically take maman for a walk into your titan/foutain and she can do nothing about it. Its pretty funny
Yeah that's why I suggested Chronos can be a good option. But her cooldowns are low by default and with Deso, Power Pot and Blue totem you have 30% in the late game. It's a sacrifice for other stuff like lifesteal and item passives. Depends how you like to play really.
@@isaacvitela5131 I was guan with 2 magical d items and she had rod and tier 2 deso and she attacked me and almost killed me with just 1 set of abilities both of us were the same level
Please let’s stop the rants on the gods for atleast the first month I’m sick of just seeing gods release to be non existent after the first month cause they get nerfed so hard
she's so busted she needs a nerf, I haven't been playing for years like others might have but I've seen a lot of God releases and I don't remember them being as oppressive as maman especially with that 3
You really take away the coolness of it being rum when you call it fuel. The ability involves her drinking the rum, blowing fire and smashing the bottle.
Not more than any other Assassin that uses autos tho. AA cancelers like Thor or full AA Asassins like Baka/Kali eat more shit from that than she does. It is a really strong and underrated ability tho.
@@nicholasarias this mf responded💜🧐idk if you knew what I meant you hit that bish when while she kit dumps the mid Jung or whoever there getting away not like besides the ult her dmg isn’t crazy for a launch date you get me
@@ChefHorus I know what you mean, xing is good counter play. I feel like she’s better to build ability based than AA based so far. Look the goat replied to ur comment as well, like I said in general, xing is good counter play to peel off aa based assassins from ur back line. You can root with ur 2 grab with ultimate and shit on aa with 1.
Fun thing me and my friends discovered with her, is she uses her 3 into Nox and Nox immediately hop into her ally, Brigitte CANNOT escape, meaning, you can teleport to the fountain with Brigitte, very unlikely to happen, but funny nonetheless
And if you dash into a thor ulting, you cant escape until the reaches the ground 😂
I was playing her yesterday and they had a jorm solo, i dashed into him and as soon as i did he ulted so i wouldn't kill him and i couldn't get out so he took me to his tier 2 tower. I just dashed out of the tower but our solo laner was like well that was an interaction lol.
Same with Marti and camazots
I immediately had the thought of what happens if you dash into Nox who dashes into Chernobog, who dashes into a wall, so this is helpful
It’s the same with jorm when I dashed into him he ulted any I couldn’t leave till ult finished
Just saying, if you are good with Thor, he counters her hard very hard. She is not hard to shut down, Ganesha put her down in the back line as well. If you can cancel her 1 you are good into her
Yeah I played 10 games with her yesterday just testing things and the only game I lost out of the 10 had a Ganesh Thor and Hel that completely shut me down whenever I would try to do anything
@@haydenvandenoudenaller8626 yep they make it almost impossible to get damage or the stun off
Yeah she’s strong but not insanely broken. But of course if a god isn’t completely awful on release everyone whines about it being broken.
@@AJ_Ol yep, she’s a great counter movement and she should be treated as such
@@the_uhhh_merica ganesha and thor do that to anyone but even less to manan because she has an op passive that you build with some attack speed. she is pretty busted you just haven't realized it
Due to the way the spikes work based on missing health, you can't ignore Rod of Tahuti. It's a core item on her imo.
A big thing to note for her lifesteal build, the passive counts as a single target ability, so you do get full lifesteal from it. It can give her quite a hefty amount of burst healing if she's able to proc several passives in a row.
I noticed that while doing jungle camps, with a full lifesteal build I was basically full healing off of 1 or 2 jungle camps no matter how low my health would be when I started the camp.
Soul gem early goes crazy
I like the synergy with myrddin. The mark, plus the extra damage from the item passive is pretty crazy.
FYI the dash does not grant CC immunity while inside another player. If Ares ults you he will pull you out of himself and stun you.
Tsukuyomi ult will hit you if his beams hit you before you dash into him. Looks super weird
thank you for the guide haven't played smite in a minute and I was curious on how she worked.
I find Bancrofts and Typhons are good on her, Tabuti has great synergy with her passive, and she appreciates Chronos Pendant for a bit more CDR, and last item is a flex item. bancrofts usually being upgraded to the Nimble glyph. Magi’s is a good last item, so is Magus, so is Divine, so is Telkhines for purely dealing more damage with autos, or Poly for the one auto after an ability. I personally think she has more than enough attack speed without the rings though, I think between Nimble Bancrofts and Eye of the Jungle she has plenty of attack speed.
Oh yeah Tahuti point is a good one. Maybe that should be somewhere in the build. So much to fit in. I could see Tahuti in place of doom orb tho. Lose the MS for useful synergy and a glyph potentially.
@@Inters3ct my name Jeff.
I’ve been digging the build I made for her, Pendulum of Ages>Book of Thoth>Spear of Deso>Soul Gem>Typhons Fang>Perfected Rod
I like the build but i see poly doing much more than soulgem
my build for Maman is Eye, into tahuti, demonic, bancrofts, typhons, poly. gives insane power, attack speed, lifesteal.
her farm is good enough that you can get tahuti with first back.
She’s gonna be my new main for a lil while lol so I’ll probably refer back to this vid a couple times as I’m learning. Thanks for the tips!
Protector
Coin
Nimble Bancroft
Chronos
Deso
Flex item typically antiheal, poly, or reaver
Granted in casuals went 48/9/15 in an hour 10 game. Got a few Quadra and trips because she can just ignore most ults by dashing into enemies.
Don't see the point of rushing Coin, and skipping typhons in a build with bancrofts
@kriegaone3658 get stacking early and I don't have typhons in mine.
So far building her attack speed is just so fun like doom, demonic, telekines is so fun
I didnt play her that much in conquest but ive been having good success with this:
- vamp (sacrificial), chronos, deso, typhons, vancroft(had poli before here but i didnt like that id didnt proc multiple times off the 1),tahuti
as per matchups. you have a hard time vs insta stuns like rat or thor, the rest you dont have a lot of issues
9:56 Thanks for this tip because the canceling felt pretty bad to me when I first started playing her.
Passive triggers tablet and reaver. A full book build is honestly the best thing on her i mean i'm crossing 100k dmg every game that goes over 45 min and here is why. First of all dashing into someone when you leave you'll always land an auto coming out so that's an easy polyproc. If you AA cancel that with the 2 they'll have 4 stacks on them already so when you 1 now the passive will proc on them 3 times so now you proced tablet and reaver 6 times 3 times off the passive and 3 times off of her kit and you smacked them with a reaver proc. I'm killing cap mitigation and magical prots lvl 20 hercs in under 3 seconds i honestly don't think there is a better tank nuking god in the game rn.
What do you build her
The burst build was nasty when testing thanks to how easy it is to auto cancel her basic
@@andyydote Vamporic shroud with book -1 and bao recipe as a start with pots. Tablet, thoth, poly, reaver, sell recipe for typhoons sell starter for calamitous rod of tahuti it's cap % pen,double book procs which shreds tanks getting reaver proced 6 times and tablet proced 6 times, ton of power and double lifesteal.
awesome video, i watched all of it. good job.
I also watched all of it and I agree.
I have a mouse with a num pad, I have it duplicating the number row so I can use my thumb for abilities, quick casting is destructive and it also makes it so you can move to the right and aim your ult at the same time
Poseidon I've discovered, is a very annoying counter, because his whirlpool shuts down your escape option and then he just summons a kraken on you and if you aren't one shotted already, you're very low on health.
Much needed playing and learning simultaneously 😂 drop the build first 10 seconds please❤
Would you consider doing a video or giving your thoughts on interactions with her dash?
There are some crazy interactions I’ve had. I’ve read she’s supposed to be untargetable while possessing a player.
However, I lost a joust game the other day from a Heimdall ulting me out of his teammate while I was possessing them pretty much all game.
First ever game on her with some random build i put together i dropped 26 or 27 kills i don't remember exactly. We lost tho cause my teammates decided to go through a lobotomy before queueing.
Tahuti, archmage, magus, Thoth, divine, (reaver/soul gem).
You 1shot almost any squishy with 2-3 alone
I've been liking building a bunch of life steal or going like half attack speed.
I’ve been really liking elleons AO build on her. Eye->protector, rod of Tahuti, telekhines, Bancroft -> nimble, typhons, poly. You get enough power to use her passive well, and also you end up with like 2.3 attack speed with nimble kinda stupid
Also rod is good with her passive I think
It's the build I've had the best games with, I haven't lost a game with her yet
cyclopean is just better than nimblecroft
@@kriegaone3658 the glyphed Bancroft is for the power and attack speed to be paired with typhons and it gives lifesteal.
Edit: Not to say cyclopean isn't good for 1's in a perfect 1v1 the extra 8% makes a big difference, but in an actual conquest, or arena. Killing two in 12 seconds full then full healing of 1 minion wave or jungle camp is a little bit better.
@@kriegaone3658 cyclopean is a garbage item
Thank you
"you AND YOUR TEAMMATES deal 5% increased damage to this target"
thanks, once her numbers are more in line she'll be a great god.
I need to know, can you 3 into a nox, who 3's into a ally for a ult like Thanos.
Could you do a video on Fenrir if you havent already?
I love being inside Susano
I think she is OP. Her ult is crazy strong too. It never feels bad to use.
Problem wiht pure dps character like maman is that she had to do an insane amount of dmg to be reliable
If she does dmg comparable to gods like thor she wont be playable because she just has a stun and a really small knockup so she is low on utility
Dont get me wrong tho she is broken right now she does so much dmg, one shots with even using ult
I think she shouldnt be able to 3 into cc immune enemies. If she didn't have the second dash it would be fine cause you could run under tower or something but its such a free escape for so much with little to no counter play only counter picks.
exactly as I've said. I really hope her 3 gets nerfed to shit, there's no counter play besides using a Thor ult and going into your titan room, you can't beads/aegis, cant cleanse it with anything, can't even damage her which I feel you should be able to do but it's a 50% mitigation if allies attack at you. I'd take any form of counter play against her 3 no matter what it is it's just oppressive and nooby at the moment
@@imgonnacreambronze
is it just me who can’t cancel her 1 fast? it at minimum uses like 10 fuel for me canceling it fast seems really weird.
It's quite hard on ping but honestly I wouldn't worry about using only 5 fuel each time. You won't ever need 20 cancels in one fight or even for farming really. The cooldown is so low that using a bit more fuel is sometimes better actually.
Ahhhh okay, I felt like I was missing out not being able to cancel fast. And thanks for the response ur awesome@@Inters3ct
Wait go do you not get tahuti? She does more damage the lower health plus tahuti.... would that not be busted?
Sustain is more viable since you are going in headfirst and the lifestyle will make your fight easier to survive.
I went 16/2 first game after watching this
Not a duel player but I imagine she'd be good for duel
If she lifesteals off her passive she is unboxable.
I stacked cyclone ring with poly and was slapping people
I pulled her out of my teamate with ares ult is this a glitch or can I actually just pull her out of people
Ya you can she's not cc immune in that sense
@@enchanter967 alr thanks just thought it was a funny interaction
@@enchanter967 she is cc immune because you can't target her, ares is just an AoE effect around him that's probably coded differently and hi rez did (or maybe didnt) know about this interaction with her dash and ares ult
@@imgonnacream that's why I said she's not cc immune "in that sense" ... I'm not dumb lol
My friend i usually play with usually jungles and i go mid so he played her more yesterday, but he just wasn't doing good with her but none where he just fucked everyone up so i was thinking maybe she's not that crazy... but he just sucks with her or something 😂😂😂 first game i played her i was 9 and 0 at 10 mins and they surrendered lol.
If they halved the passive damage she would probably still be fine
But it is punishable… she might be able to dash out of you, just take her into the middle of your team.. run away from her team.. if your by yourself and not around a tower or phoenix, whelp… but she always dashing away from you when it’s done you can just aegis the damage then when she dashed out use your movement ability and get away…
@@tylerorlowski3147 having to rely on aegis for basic skill isnt a good argument
Ya if they ate standing still and doing nothing back u easy get a tripple hit....
Brigitte should definitely not be able to 3 into CC immune gods...
Her 3 isnt CC. Simply a dash. Aegis immunes damage tho
@billionbagdreams it doesn't matter if it is or isn't, hi rez is lazy and should've hard coded it to not hide inside of people who aegis or beads it, it should also be cleansable because it's a pretty busted ability and she will win 99% of 1v1s because of it
@@BLBGDR I'm saying that being possessed by Brigitte should count as a CC.
Eye Doom orb deso poly magus typhons
Poly
This has by far been the most toxic character release.
People throwing hissy fits cause you don’t build her like they do, they didn’t get to play her so they troll the match, dodging matches in lobby for the same reason, enemy smashing their face into her.
MOBAs have always been toxic, but something diff is in the smite community.
I went ability power instead of AA speed first day release & my solo raged their mind out. Then got his buddies to F6 the match.
Change messes her up lmao
I feel like it I'm the only who doesn't think she's "broken" (People keep using this word incorrectly)
Release Shiva was "broken" not this. She does mad damage, yeah. But her movement is mediocre, the Maman player actually needs to be good, and she had to throw her body in to get stuff done. I'd rather deal with a good Maman than a good Ao Kuang
Passive makes tank madam OP
Not really but she's decent as a tank with lifesteal builds
Just gonna wait a week to player when the popularity dies down
the dash is the most annoying thing in the game, should be able to beads it and receive only the 1 initial hit, should be able to aegis it, should be cleansable if you dont prebeads, a good way to counter it *would* be to jump into your tower or into your allies but nope she gets a 50 unit dash, she should just pop out of them instead of a full on dash, making her more risky.
to add to this the 1 is knock up immune which is crazy to me, lance is my favorite god and i play him a good amount and to just be so hard countered with the knock immunity, easy stun, and the 3 feels bad after he just got a pretty good buff. make the 1 not knock up immune 🙏🙏
A big downside to her dash is that if she dashes into a god with a long ult (Arachne, Rattaskr, Thor) She stays for the entire duration, even after dealing her damage. So you can basically take maman for a walk into your titan/foutain and she can do nothing about it. Its pretty funny
Yes i think some counter play would be nice but it basically makes it impossible to catch a apollo ult or thor ult with her.
@@runebeargames899 ive seen that and it was pretty funny, she should pop out and die of fall damage
Cringy take
Pop out of him, pause
Shes super broken!!! No idea how to build her...
Ngl dont like the lack of cdr
Yeah that's why I suggested Chronos can be a good option. But her cooldowns are low by default and with Deso, Power Pot and Blue totem you have 30% in the late game. It's a sacrifice for other stuff like lifesteal and item passives. Depends how you like to play really.
Not even a little broken lol
1st comment🎉
She does WAY to much damage, the passive will be needed hard I think
The snake procs 3 times, and if you fire that at close range, it melts you like crazy
@@isaacvitela5131 I was guan with 2 magical d items and she had rod and tier 2 deso and she attacked me and almost killed me with just 1 set of abilities both of us were the same level
She’s like a glass cannon bacchus
All good bacchus' are glass cannon bacchus.
I personally am not impressed by this god. Seems poorly put together not very thought out
Please let’s stop the rants on the gods for atleast the first month I’m sick of just seeing gods release to be non existent after the first month cause they get nerfed so hard
she's so busted she needs a nerf, I haven't been playing for years like others might have but I've seen a lot of God releases and I don't remember them being as oppressive as maman especially with that 3
You really take away the coolness of it being rum when you call it fuel. The ability involves her drinking the rum, blowing fire and smashing the bottle.
Oh no he said the fun is all gone now because of what a UA-camr said :(
Ridiculous nitpick
@@AJ_Ol So all resources are called fuel then? It calls it rum in the description and you’re like “nah everything’s FUEL!!!!”
This gotta be bait for sure
It's cause the precedent of this mechanic is set by Pele.
Xing tian 1 really shits on her dmg
And poly on her kinda sucks early rod kinda slaps tho
Xing 1 shits on auto attacks in general
Not more than any other Assassin that uses autos tho. AA cancelers like Thor or full AA Asassins like Baka/Kali eat more shit from that than she does. It is a really strong and underrated ability tho.
@@nicholasarias this mf responded💜🧐idk if you knew what I meant you hit that bish when while she kit dumps the mid Jung or whoever there getting away not like besides the ult her dmg isn’t crazy for a launch date you get me
@@ChefHorus I know what you mean, xing is good counter play. I feel like she’s better to build ability based than AA based so far. Look the goat replied to ur comment as well, like I said in general, xing is good counter play to peel off aa based assassins from ur back line. You can root with ur 2 grab with ultimate and shit on aa with 1.