I don't think in 3 I've ever not gotten True Demon, just because every playthrough I start out going "Well maybe I'll see what Reason I get this time" but then I just have to do all the side-content, and doing all of it locks you into True Demon anyway.
the SECOND she started saying "i think i get this game, i got over the initial hump pretty quick" i began eagerly awaiting the minotaur fight and it was great
I need to finish Strange Journey, but Asura keeps kicking my ass. The way my choices have worked out so far, I'm currently on the path for Law, but Neutral is still on the table I think, depending on when the ending lock is
1:09:55 Watching this moment during the stream - where you discovered that (contrary to how SMT3 and SMT5 had primed you with regards to alignment) more choices affected your alignment than whether you chose to work with Jonathan or Walter - was such a treat.
@@arciks11Although those 2 games makes checking your alignment easy, since demons will return to the COMP and refuse to be resummoned if you’re of the opposite alignment, and some equipment can only be equipped by certain alignment. The challenge is keeping your alignment as what you want, since a lot of things affect your alignment. For example, killing law/chaos demons push you toward the opposite alignment, and recruiting law/chaos demons push you toward their alignment.
Creepy fact here: 1:04:00 Garote Was widelly used during the Brazilian Military Dictatorship period, and the fact that the game actually depicts a black boy being hunged by this torture device, could be a reference to Robson Silveira, wich was one of the victims of this contraption, and his death would eventually become the motivation from where the "Movimento Negro unificado" (MNU) or "Unified Black movement" (UBM) in english would be created.
SMT games seem like the most difficult series to localize of all time. So much nuanced philosophical dialogue and so much that requires cultural context. SMT4 really is a feat, even with some of the weirder localized stuff on the peripheral, most of the main things seems well presented, especially the choices.
If I got in MegaTen late through Persona 5 Royal, SMT IV really solidified my love for the series! I went out of my way to get all four endings, do all the sidequests, beat all the friends, challenge all the DLC bosses and complete my compendium. Truly this was an experience, one I hope everyone gets to experience during their life, despite how cynical this game can be. I'm glad you got to experience it too! 😄
it is almost entirely because of Crystal that i bought, played, and obsessively ranted about this game from around Christmas to now. I am beyond help. I am thoroughly obsessed with SMT 4
This and SMT 4 Apocalypse are my favorite SMT games. A lot of people talk about how good three is but I really like the character writing in 4 and in the spin off. You get to spent way more time with the cast which really benefits the games story a lot. You get to see why the alignment characters make their choices. Great stuff.
Not only that, but i love the gameplay, too. The battles are quick, but aggresive and brutal, you really got to squish your demons for all they are worth.
>makes generally chaos aligned choices. >gets told she's neutral by a Boss. >Chooses Chaos Route during the final alignment choice. >gets Law route. Like, not even Neutral, straight up Law. How far into Law route was she? Doesn't the final choice give you 10 "points" into Law or Chaos to determine your route?
This vid do not show all the question also not all question answer hold same value. Like saying you know issacar will net you +1 while deny it will give you -5.
Also the ending is not decided only by the questions, it 'lso matter which demons you fuse since some follow the law alignment and others the chaos one, maybe she fused a lot of law demons pushing her to that ending
That’s entirely superstition, demons used have absolutely no affect on your alignment score, the only things that affect alignment are: story events (some are dialogue choices, others are simply forced I.e. killing the Minotaur gives I believe -5 alignment) and specific side quests (pretty much any side quests that gives a dialogue option). The neutral route also requires certain side quests to be completed in order to get it as well.
I’m really hoping you check out the Devil Survivor duology next. It’s that perfect mix between Persona and Mainline SMT. The characters are really enjoyable.
@calebgoodman3028 well Stephen has changed a lot since smt 1 In smt 1 he was basically a desperate, human scientist, in amt iv he's an extradimensional being who's lived for thousands of years and crossed various universes.
Ever since watching the streams I’ve been waiting for this to drop. Your playthrough (as well as watching it on my own time) personally made this my favorite so far (tied with Strange Journey). Much love!
Glad you enjoyed your time with SMT IV! Amazing game, may I recommend play devil survivor? It’s a strategy RPG x Megaten and has one of my favourite stories in the series. It’s peak SMT and I’d really think you’d enjoy it.
The fact that I just watched the entire video in one sit even that I alredy beaten the game 3 times with all the endings means alot.. I am so much in love with smt4 so I like watching people experience it for the first time, I was locked with law in my first walkthrough btw
Yeah but getting the neutral ending naturally is next to impossible especially since the game screws you at the 11th hour if you are balanced True Neutral at the final choice between Law and Chaos where picking either side tips the scales instantly
@@2la84me yeah definitely. I somehow lucked into it on my first playthrough with going max chaos throughout the majority of the game and then choosing the law option on the last alignment choice with the white but legitimately going for it would be super tough
That's kinda what ruined the experience for me, I wanted the neutral ending and was stressed the entire time trying to calculate if I would get it or not. I hate how dumb the alignment points are.
Always so happy to see this game get coverage and to see other people enjoying it. Definitely in my top 5 favorite games of all time. I played it when it came out when I was like 14, and not only did it introduce me to megaten, but it also just made me start to question a lot more things in the world. And of it course it kicked my ass and took my lunch money
I didnt even know how to get the neutral/"true" ending to this game for years when I played without looking anything up, and getting the Law ending when I swear I was leaning Chaos is absolutely a mood.
SMT 4 stablished a new standard for the series storywise, I felt so upseted when they came back to the same simple formula of the oldest games in SMT 5 :/
Nah bro, I've played every mainline SMT game, V has the worst story and main characters in the franchise and it isn't even particularly close. Unless you count IV A If you do... It's still the worst, but it does at least have competition.
@@halowaffle25Best gameplay though, which was confusing. Based on how Atlus was completely silent about that game until release, I'm guessing they really had no idea what they wanted to write.
My local gamestop (ebgames in Canada) had a promo where if you bought Fe awakening and SMT IV they would give you a 20 dollar eshop card. I didnt wanna miss out and already was sold on FE so I picked this game up and had a blast. Never beat it because i got lost lmao Also iirc when you die they gave you the choice of using your play coins (the ones on 3DS you earn as you walk) which helped when I didnt want to use my spare macca
Oh man. I love SMTIV. It was my first SMT game and I have such good memories of this game. I'm glad you liked this game as well. Oh man I need to replay this game again.
This video alone was alone was enough to make me subscribe. Your editing is really good, and I like the vibes you give off. SMTIV being one of my favorite games of all time certainly helps. Based CrystAAHHL is based.
right and some guides just tell you to avoid all those challenge quests (i ended up doing almost all except the hunter tournament prelims whoops. I also surprisingly actually answered almost every forced choice except one correctly, where I said "I dont know" side note I told the ikebukuro woman i was a human and have spared people in every moral choice in challenge quests so I think Im heading toward the law path. I'll check back when my alignment lock happens.$
I hope the people that started with SMTV that are now going back to the older SMT games realize how much better the story telling was in previous games. I liked 5 but it for sure was missing the weight that the story in 4 had.
Hmm I started w SMTV and although the story was better in this game, I liked the story just fine still in V. I guess it just comes down to personal preference.
@@hommefataltaeminmy guess is that people wanted more ‘involved’ characters- like you dont spend a lot of alone time with the law and chaos heroes, travel with them and get to know them. In smtV the guys are there, but they’re not your friends- not really tbh. Though i looove smtV and look forward to 6.
@abaque24 SMT 5 was a fantastic game, but the characters were definitely weak compared to the characters in 4 and even 4A (for the most part anyways cough cough Nozomi) The story in 5 was good too, but the fact it basically takes a backseat outside of vague hints towards what the main conflict even is until youre almost at the end of the game wasnt handled the best. Still a must play though
Glad you enjoyed the game as much as you did, it's easily my favourite mainline Megaten game tied with Strange Journey. If we're talking spin off series as well then Devil Survivor is an absolute gem as well.
0:08 Eli, Eli, Lema Sabachthani is a film directed by Shinji Aoyama. Eloi Eloi Lama Sabachthani is what Jesus said on the cross - "my lord, my lord, why have you forsaken me?"
As someone who enjoyed SMT Nocturne, I completely agree with you. The characters and alignments in that game were not well developed. They never gave me reason enough to care about which side I would pick to fight for. Meanwhile, SMTIV did the complete opposite. You are together with your allies from the very beginning, and traveling with them you get to know their personalities so much better, and you have enough time to establish a connection with them. One of my most memorable moments in the SMT series was when I had to fight and kill Isabeu, who didnt agree with the path I had chosen. I remember very well the feeling I felt of not wanting to kill her but being forced by the game to do so, as if I was having my decisions tested. Honestly, even now years later thinking about it it still hits me, and moments like that are exactly what makes me love the SMT more than other jrpgs.
If you like SMT IV's scheme of writing, you'll probably like SMT SJ Redux. People tend to overlook it in favor of the mainline SMT games and Devil Survivor, but it's massively underrated. It's very plot dense, but the main issue is that it hasn't been localized yet.
@@TactlessGuy Localization is translation plus tweaking dialogue to be more natural and to better fit the target language. Dubbing is not necessarily part of this process. Still one of the best RPG remakes ever though.
If you liked SMT IV this much, I strongly recommend giving the first Devil Survivor a try. Personally I think it has the best thought out endings in the whole series, and the modern day setting improves the story telling and characterization a lot.
wow, this makes me wanna play smt4. I like how wild some of these designs of the demons are, the story is cool and this looks fun! I wonder if Atlus will remake this someday.
Found this video out of the blue, and gotta say, you're 100% right why SMT IV is great. The community is visceral sometimes, but like any other, just ignore them.
I actually loved the way SMT 3 portrayed the cast, they seem to go on their own journey just like you yourself & it felt more natural than any other cast of other jrpgs where they're stuck like a glue to the protagonist, sure some of the scenes where they show up could've used some more dialogue where they talk more about their differences but overall they did a really good job IMO. SMT 4 took a more traditional route akin to the way SMT 1 & it executed it really well but personally 3 will always have a special place in my heart.
Currently on my 3rd run of SMT IV, going Chaos route this time. After watching this and playing for the first time, I can indeed confirm: Luck build best build (love the vid)
Me: Huh, that guy in the wheelchair kinda looks like Stephen Haw- Atlus: Any resemblance to real persons living or dead is purely coincidental Me: But... Atlus: PURELY COINCIDENTAL
I have played 26 Shin Megami Tensei games.Mainline,spin offs anything that has the Shin Megami Tensei on the title.SMT IV is by far my favourite.And the soundtrack of this games is a masterpiece
If you plant to play SMT IV Apocalypse, then remember this: When you or your demon got the Sick status debuff, every attack coming at you will always hit you, 100%
if i'm not remembering wrongly, to reach the neutral ending, you have to answer all questions with the first answer until the event of the caves of decisions and avoiding a room in ikebukuro where answering a girl's question will give you 10 points in alignment. also isabeau best girl.
It actually doesn't matter what you say at any point per se. Your alignment starts at 0 and every single decision decision after is + (law) or - (chaos) points. Most decisions are only +/- 1 point, with a few of the more extreme decisions being 5 points. the ones right before you get locked into a route are the most extreme at 10 points. You are considered neutral anytime your points are between +/- 8. The unfortunate result of this is that if you are neutral going into the final alignment decision (and have played the whole game neutrally) its frequently not possible to actually get the neutral route, as any value between -2 and +2 will result in you getting locked into an alignment no mater what (example: if you managed to perfectly balance all decisions to reach this point at 0, "destroy" makes you chaos with -10 and "preserve" makes you law with +10). The most popular guide does recommend always choosing the first dialogue option before going to the reactor with jonathan, then using the latter portion of the game balancing out, but that guide also marks the exact value of every decision, meaning you can say whatever you want so long as you are at least +/-3 by the final question.
It's also highly reccomended that you avoid one questline in particular where you fight in an arena. Sparing or killing your opponents results in your alignment fluctuating wildly.
I’m so glad I got to see this video, I ended up getting the Neutral route (And blindly without a guide, lmao) but holy fuck the Law route is just as cool too? Awesome!
So you helped the demons instead of the Ashura Kai, took all chaos options in the Passage of Ethics, took Walter's route, and yet SOMEHOW, you got Law? How even?
I highly suggest you upload all the other endings, specially the Neutral/Isabeau ending, when I got that one, I just had massive shivers. ALSO there's secret fiends that you can hunt, but the only way to find them all is being on the Neutral route with Isabeau, but its a massive headache, they have a 1/256 chance of spawning on certain locations and are insanely hard. I hunted them all myself, red rider still gives me ptsd, I uploaded my attempts on my channel btw lol. SMT IV is my fav RPG ever, I even got a 3DS just for it and in total I must have around 600 hours on it (emulation + 300 hours on my 3ds)
I've only played this game through once so far. I keep hearing about how hard it is to get the neutral ending without a guide, but I must have lucked out, since I got the neutral ending without any guide. Either luck or by complete accident, I was just answering questions as I felt I would have in real life.
As a person who also found Nocturne very lacking, I appreciate that we have similar perspectives (my favorite SMT game is Strange Journey Redux though).
Hey, Crystahl! Somebody probably already told you, but Isabeau's manga is an actual manga you can read! It's called Rose of Versailles, it's a romance manga, and it's even pretty good!
there's also smt4 apocalypse, a game made for those who didn't lie ANY of SMT4's endings so...we'll see what ya think of it. Stephen's interestng cause he's a character from the first SMT game. I'm not sure if i should extrapolate more about him just in case it spils anythng about him in other games or if you somehow end up playing the first game.
Getting the ending you didn't want is the most smt4 thing you could do to be honest
I don't think in 3 I've ever not gotten True Demon, just because every playthrough I start out going "Well maybe I'll see what Reason I get this time" but then I just have to do all the side-content, and doing all of it locks you into True Demon anyway.
@@JackgarPrime Just don't go to the last room of the Amala Labyrinth
@@leweirdmat6168 But it's RIGHT THERE!
@@JackgarPrime I thought you could beat Metatron without having to do TDE?
@@leweirdmat6168 you can, you just have to not take the elevator after the 5th Kalpa.
The stumble into the White ending was hilarious, she somehow did and didn't read what she was doing, 10/10 playthrough.
What else is new with her?
I did the white ending on purpose because I was too far in to do the neutral one
@@LasikisalSame here.
@@djoshawott2850 lmao
Funniest part of the black samurai spoiling Isabeau is that it's a real manga so someone out there got actually spoiled irl lol
That's truly evil
the SECOND she started saying "i think i get this game, i got over the initial hump pretty quick" i began eagerly awaiting the minotaur fight and it was great
“Demons are apparently easier to control than your friends”
-CrystAAHHL 2023
Demon with a contract is loyal, no doubt so she is correct lol.
"Mastema seems like such a cool character"
Laughs in Strange Journey
I need to finish Strange Journey, but Asura keeps kicking my ass. The way my choices have worked out so far, I'm currently on the path for Law, but Neutral is still on the table I think, depending on when the ending lock is
Pinche juego injusto
@@4KDolbyDigitalBest strategy for his is fighting him solo, that's how i beat him
@@4KDolbyDigital
Fight him solo with equipment that buffs you while enraged. Single greatest moment in the game for me.
@@mythosinfinite6736 When will Asura learn that his actions have consequences!?
1:09:55
Watching this moment during the stream - where you discovered that (contrary to how SMT3 and SMT5 had primed you with regards to alignment) more choices affected your alignment than whether you chose to work with Jonathan or Walter - was such a treat.
SMT 1 and SMT 2 say hi.
@@arciks11Although those 2 games makes checking your alignment easy, since demons will return to the COMP and refuse to be resummoned if you’re of the opposite alignment, and some equipment can only be equipped by certain alignment. The challenge is keeping your alignment as what you want, since a lot of things affect your alignment. For example, killing law/chaos demons push you toward the opposite alignment, and recruiting law/chaos demons push you toward their alignment.
Creepy fact here: 1:04:00 Garote Was widelly used during the Brazilian Military Dictatorship period, and the fact that the game actually depicts a black boy being hunged by this torture device, could be a reference to Robson Silveira, wich was one of the victims of this contraption, and his death would eventually become the motivation from where the "Movimento Negro unificado" (MNU) or "Unified Black movement" (UBM) in english would be created.
SMT games seem like the most difficult series to localize of all time. So much nuanced philosophical dialogue and so much that requires cultural context. SMT4 really is a feat, even with some of the weirder localized stuff on the peripheral, most of the main things seems well presented, especially the choices.
If I got in MegaTen late through Persona 5 Royal, SMT IV really solidified my love for the series! I went out of my way to get all four endings, do all the sidequests, beat all the friends, challenge all the DLC bosses and complete my compendium.
Truly this was an experience, one I hope everyone gets to experience during their life, despite how cynical this game can be.
I'm glad you got to experience it too! 😄
I also went all in tho I actually played this at launch myself I would lose my mind if they made a rerelease for the 30th
it got me into the franchise almost 11 years ago and after playing so many megaten games I still hold it as my favorite game of all time
This was my first SMT game. That tutorial as a newcomer was fucking brutal.
it is almost entirely because of Crystal that i bought, played, and obsessively ranted about this game from around Christmas to now. I am beyond help. I am thoroughly obsessed with SMT 4
SMT 4: You can not sleep
Persona 5: You must sleep
2 sides of the same coin.
This and SMT 4 Apocalypse are my favorite SMT games. A lot of people talk about how good three is but I really like the character writing in 4 and in the spin off. You get to spent way more time with the cast which really benefits the games story a lot. You get to see why the alignment characters make their choices. Great stuff.
Not only that, but i love the gameplay, too. The battles are quick, but aggresive and brutal, you really got to squish your demons for all they are worth.
>makes generally chaos aligned choices.
>gets told she's neutral by a Boss.
>Chooses Chaos Route during the final alignment choice.
>gets Law route.
Like, not even Neutral, straight up Law. How far into Law route was she? Doesn't the final choice give you 10 "points" into Law or Chaos to determine your route?
This vid do not show all the question also not all question answer hold same value. Like saying you know issacar will net you +1 while deny it will give you -5.
Also the ending is not decided only by the questions, it 'lso matter which demons you fuse since some follow the law alignment and others the chaos one, maybe she fused a lot of law demons pushing her to that ending
That’s entirely superstition, demons used have absolutely no affect on your alignment score, the only things that affect alignment are: story events (some are dialogue choices, others are simply forced I.e. killing the Minotaur gives I believe -5 alignment) and specific side quests (pretty much any side quests that gives a dialogue option). The neutral route also requires certain side quests to be completed in order to get it as well.
@@chibify5861i think the demons aliagnment only mattered in the old smt games so i think thats why they might be getting confused
I’m really hoping you check out the Devil Survivor duology next. It’s that perfect mix between Persona and Mainline SMT. The characters are really enjoyable.
Ah, you seem familiar
Also, the dungeons are dope.
Daichi best boi
@@SYMgenshin he is just hornier Atsuro though
@@armandostockvideos8386 I think you’ve got the wrong game. Devil Survivor is the tactics game. There are no dungeons.
Flynn: Hey Walter, can I join you to get the Chaos Ending?
Walter: Ya sure
*Actually destroys the Yamato Reactor like a boss*
White Ending Time
The game that got me into the SMT series, never looked back. Really hoping they can get this kind of writing back for whatever the next game is.
Eh
"How do you just like create a kingdom on top of another kingdom?"
That is the question that us who have played Dark Souls 2 ask to this day.
hearing her speculate on who stephen is is so fun. Given he was a key character in SMT 1 lmao
@calebgoodman3028 well Stephen has changed a lot since smt 1
In smt 1 he was basically a desperate, human scientist, in amt iv he's an extradimensional being who's lived for thousands of years and crossed various universes.
the confidence swings in this game are real *smirk*
Congratulations on completing the quest
So glad you enjoyed my favorite game! As much as I love smt 3 and 5 the characters in 4 blow them all out of the water!
Ever since watching the streams I’ve been waiting for this to drop. Your playthrough (as well as watching it on my own time) personally made this my favorite so far (tied with Strange Journey).
Much love!
Glad you enjoyed your time with SMT IV! Amazing game, may I recommend play devil survivor? It’s a strategy RPG x Megaten and has one of my favourite stories in the series. It’s peak SMT and I’d really think you’d enjoy it.
20:30 "Sees Walter as her partner" Ha ha she's in danger.
The fact that I just watched the entire video in one sit even that I alredy beaten the game 3 times with all the endings means alot..
I am so much in love with smt4 so I like watching people experience it for the first time, I was locked with law in my first walkthrough btw
If you ever get the neutral ending, I’d love to see your reaction to it
Yeah but getting the neutral ending naturally is next to impossible especially since the game screws you at the 11th hour if you are balanced True Neutral at the final choice between Law and Chaos where picking either side tips the scales instantly
@@2la84me yeah definitely. I somehow lucked into it on my first playthrough with going max chaos throughout the majority of the game and then choosing the law option on the last alignment choice with the white but legitimately going for it would be super tough
@@2la84me and that's why there's a guide for it.
That's kinda what ruined the experience for me, I wanted the neutral ending and was stressed the entire time trying to calculate if I would get it or not. I hate how dumb the alignment points are.
It's part if why I enjoyed 4A a lot more
This was so fun to watch, shout out to Deena for the amazing edit
Always so happy to see this game get coverage and to see other people enjoying it. Definitely in my top 5 favorite games of all time.
I played it when it came out when I was like 14, and not only did it introduce me to megaten, but it also just made me start to question a lot more things in the world. And of it course it kicked my ass and took my lunch money
this and DDS are my favorite games in the franchise. so so so good
Fellow DDS lover! Strange Journey is also high up there for me.
Issacar: Please, make yourself a magnificent samuari...*dies*
LOOKS LIKE THE QUEST IS GOING WELL!
....Whut?
I didnt even know how to get the neutral/"true" ending to this game for years when I played without looking anything up, and getting the Law ending when I swear I was leaning Chaos is absolutely a mood.
SMT 4 stablished a new standard for the series storywise, I felt so upseted when they came back to the same simple formula of the oldest games in SMT 5 :/
Heres hoping SMT VI will have more of a storytelling device like SMT IV does cause SMT V storytelling is abyssmal
Nah bro, I've played every mainline SMT game, V has the worst story and main characters in the franchise and it isn't even particularly close. Unless you count IV A
If you do... It's still the worst, but it does at least have competition.
@@halowaffle25Best gameplay though, which was confusing. Based on how Atlus was completely silent about that game until release, I'm guessing they really had no idea what they wanted to write.
@@halowaffle25SmtV is the best game to play so who cares
@@jacopom.7477eh... Kinduva reductive thinking, oh well
My local gamestop (ebgames in Canada) had a promo where if you bought Fe awakening and SMT IV they would give you a 20 dollar eshop card. I didnt wanna miss out and already was sold on FE so I picked this game up and had a blast. Never beat it because i got lost lmao
Also iirc when you die they gave you the choice of using your play coins (the ones on 3DS you earn as you walk) which helped when I didnt want to use my spare macca
Oh man. I love SMTIV. It was my first SMT game and I have such good memories of this game.
I'm glad you liked this game as well. Oh man I need to replay this game again.
SMT IV is my favorite SMT game I am glad you enjoyed it can't wait to see the vIdeo on IV apocalypse too (of those streams gets turned into a video)
Mastema IS a cool character......in Strange Journey wich i hope she plays at some point
This video alone was alone was enough to make me subscribe. Your editing is really good, and I like the vibes you give off. SMTIV being one of my favorite games of all time certainly helps.
Based CrystAAHHL is based.
The neutral route is SO GOOD in this game, it's a shame that it's basically impossible to get without following a guide for the choices
right and some guides just tell you to avoid all those challenge quests (i ended up doing almost all except the hunter tournament prelims whoops. I also surprisingly actually answered almost every forced choice except one correctly, where I said "I dont know"
side note I told the ikebukuro woman i was a human and have spared people in every moral choice in challenge quests so I think Im heading toward the law path. I'll check back when my alignment lock happens.$
the range is -8 -to +8 and the final choice is -10 to +10 so if you're -1 to +1 before that, you get locked out of neutral
God, minotaurs design is so fucking sick
7:32 YEAHHH glad it’s catching on outside of rtgame that was so youtube of you crystal
I still remember hating the infection/illness status...
But loving how they actually tell you what a skill will change into.
I hope the people that started with SMTV that are now going back to the older SMT games realize how much better the story telling was in previous games. I liked 5 but it for sure was missing the weight that the story in 4 had.
Hmm I started w SMTV and although the story was better in this game, I liked the story just fine still in V. I guess it just comes down to personal preference.
@@hommefataltaeminmy guess is that people wanted more ‘involved’ characters- like you dont spend a lot of alone time with the law and chaos heroes, travel with them and get to know them. In smtV the guys are there, but they’re not your friends- not really tbh. Though i looove smtV and look forward to 6.
@abaque24 SMT 5 was a fantastic game, but the characters were definitely weak compared to the characters in 4 and even 4A (for the most part anyways cough cough Nozomi)
The story in 5 was good too, but the fact it basically takes a backseat outside of vague hints towards what the main conflict even is until youre almost at the end of the game wasnt handled the best. Still a must play though
@@MoochMoment i do love smtV
Glad you enjoyed the game as much as you did, it's easily my favourite mainline Megaten game tied with Strange Journey. If we're talking spin off series as well then Devil Survivor is an absolute gem as well.
Your reaction to every choice you had in this game was literally just: 😳😳😳
0:08 Eli, Eli, Lema Sabachthani is a film directed by Shinji Aoyama. Eloi Eloi Lama Sabachthani is what Jesus said on the cross - "my lord, my lord, why have you forsaken me?"
I really loved watching the streams of this game, highlight being the absolutely highest tier of MOSS gaming I've seen,
This "kingdom above a city" concept was really interesting to me, reminded me of Ankh-Morphok, Dark Souls, and that New York video lmao.
i think the thing i liked the most was the party thinking tokyo was weird and unclean when in reality THEY were the outsiders
This has the hardest neutral route to follow. Needs a guide just to know what you want before you want it!
As someone who enjoyed SMT Nocturne, I completely agree with you. The characters and alignments in that game were not well developed. They never gave me reason enough to care about which side I would pick to fight for.
Meanwhile, SMTIV did the complete opposite. You are together with your allies from the very beginning, and traveling with them you get to know their personalities so much better, and you have enough time to establish a connection with them. One of my most memorable moments in the SMT series was when I had to fight and kill Isabeu, who didnt agree with the path I had chosen.
I remember very well the feeling I felt of not wanting to kill her but being forced by the game to do so, as if I was having my decisions tested. Honestly, even now years later thinking about it it still hits me, and moments like that are exactly what makes me love the SMT more than other jrpgs.
If you like SMT IV's scheme of writing, you'll probably like SMT SJ Redux. People tend to overlook it in favor of the mainline SMT games and Devil Survivor, but it's massively underrated. It's very plot dense, but the main issue is that it hasn't been localized yet.
It HAS been localized and released outside of Japan. Just not dubbed.
@@voraito I thought localized includes dubbing? Otherwise it's just translated.
@@TactlessGuy Localization is translation plus tweaking dialogue to be more natural and to better fit the target language. Dubbing is not necessarily part of this process. Still one of the best RPG remakes ever though.
Vanilla SJ*
@@funninoriginal6054 Nah, new SMT fans will probably like redux more.
If you liked SMT IV this much, I strongly recommend giving the first Devil Survivor a try. Personally I think it has the best thought out endings in the whole series, and the modern day setting improves the story telling and characterization a lot.
I'm gonna cackle once she starts playing 4A. And "that" DLC which gives you some background about Mikado. If you know, you know. 😏
wow, this makes me wanna play smt4. I like how wild some of these designs of the demons are, the story is cool and this looks fun! I wonder if Atlus will remake this someday.
@@calebgoodman3028yarrgh tis the time to be a pirate
59:48, hell yeah, looking like an MMORPG character that just started out and has been playing for like 2 days and is eager to show off their hat.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one startled by that introduction "UHHHNNHHHHHH!!!!"
Relax man ; I'm 4 minutes into the game.
Hell yes! The game is super atmospheric.
Found this video out of the blue, and gotta say, you're 100% right why SMT IV is great. The community is visceral sometimes, but like any other, just ignore them.
I actually loved the way SMT 3 portrayed the cast, they seem to go on their own journey just like you yourself & it felt more natural than any other cast of other jrpgs where they're stuck like a glue to the protagonist, sure some of the scenes where they show up could've used some more dialogue where they talk more about their differences but overall they did a really good job IMO.
SMT 4 took a more traditional route akin to the way SMT 1 & it executed it really well but personally 3 will always have a special place in my heart.
Smt IV and Smt strange journey have the best stories in the mainline series imho
Currently on my 3rd run of SMT IV, going Chaos route this time. After watching this and playing for the first time, I can indeed confirm:
Luck build best build (love the vid)
Me: Huh, that guy in the wheelchair kinda looks like Stephen Haw-
Atlus: Any resemblance to real persons living or dead is purely coincidental
Me: But...
Atlus: PURELY COINCIDENTAL
This game was so freakin sick. Thanks for the vid, i got to relive it
little girl: please won't you revive me?
crystaahhl/flynn: no.
little girl: bich what the fuck???
and revived she was not
I have played 26 Shin Megami Tensei games.Mainline,spin offs anything that has the Shin Megami Tensei on the title.SMT IV is by far my favourite.And the soundtrack of this games is a masterpiece
Every time Crystaahhl gets a Demons weakness wrong, Fuuka laughs at her in Oracle: lose all SP
If you plant to play SMT IV Apocalypse, then remember this:
When you or your demon got the Sick status debuff, every attack coming at you will always hit you, 100%
That's exactly it. I suffered through the Minotaur like everyone else and now I enjoy watching others struggle like I did.
if i'm not remembering wrongly, to reach the neutral ending, you have to answer all questions with the first answer until the event of the caves of decisions and avoiding a room in ikebukuro where answering a girl's question will give you 10 points in alignment. also isabeau best girl.
You don't _have_ to do it that way, but it's probably the easiest method if you're actively aiming for it.
@@simonO712 yes, i simply didn't write properly. i only remember doing so in my play after i read a post somewhere.
It actually doesn't matter what you say at any point per se. Your alignment starts at 0 and every single decision decision after is + (law) or - (chaos) points. Most decisions are only +/- 1 point, with a few of the more extreme decisions being 5 points. the ones right before you get locked into a route are the most extreme at 10 points. You are considered neutral anytime your points are between +/- 8. The unfortunate result of this is that if you are neutral going into the final alignment decision (and have played the whole game neutrally) its frequently not possible to actually get the neutral route, as any value between -2 and +2 will result in you getting locked into an alignment no mater what (example: if you managed to perfectly balance all decisions to reach this point at 0, "destroy" makes you chaos with -10 and "preserve" makes you law with +10). The most popular guide does recommend always choosing the first dialogue option before going to the reactor with jonathan, then using the latter portion of the game balancing out, but that guide also marks the exact value of every decision, meaning you can say whatever you want so long as you are at least +/-3 by the final question.
It's also highly reccomended that you avoid one questline in particular where you fight in an arena. Sparing or killing your opponents results in your alignment fluctuating wildly.
@@conspiracypanda1200 thanks for all the memories, it was a few years ago after all, don't remember all of it now.
I recently got SMTIV and this stream is helping me progress you are the real
Mvp Crystal
0:42 Law route foreshadowing lol
I’m so glad I got to see this video, I ended up getting the Neutral route (And blindly without a guide, lmao) but holy fuck the Law route is just as cool too? Awesome!
Consider playing the Digital Devil Saga duology! Very great games with some of the better stories in SMT
So you helped the demons instead of the Ashura Kai, took all chaos options in the Passage of Ethics, took Walter's route, and yet SOMEHOW, you got Law? How even?
I highly suggest you upload all the other endings, specially the Neutral/Isabeau ending, when I got that one, I just had massive shivers. ALSO there's secret fiends that you can hunt, but the only way to find them all is being on the Neutral route with Isabeau, but its a massive headache, they have a 1/256 chance of spawning on certain locations and are insanely hard. I hunted them all myself, red rider still gives me ptsd, I uploaded my attempts on my channel btw lol.
SMT IV is my fav RPG ever, I even got a 3DS just for it and in total I must have around 600 hours on it (emulation + 300 hours on my 3ds)
I love that content creators are adapting the term “UA-cam” after the rtgame video.
"Are you consulting your demons?"
"Yes, Burroughs."
*Discussing with Chat.*
I love Liam O Brien for playing Akihiko, but I HATE him as Navarre.
But Charon’s always disappointed in you, that’s why they want to speak to the manager
I'm still waiting for the Marsh/Crystal crossover
42:12 Crystaahhl lived long enough to BECOME the Mothman.
Getting destroyed in Naruku is a right of passage for smt4, lol
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!
The game that is just one long bop
Really enjoying watching this and reliving the first time smt 4 experience
"We're just like assassins at this point for hire."
On the bright(?) side, now you really have become Akechi.
I just beat smt 4, managed to get Neutral so seeing the other sides of the coin is interesting
27:40 this whole reveal was what got me properly hooked in. Glad I was borderline forced into buying this game, it's truly a next level RPG
I love this game so much!! Definitely my personal favorite in the series.
Devil survivor is still may favorite after playing 4, the characters and settings worked so well together
Hell yeah! Smt4 is a blast to play, the right amount of dificulty and storytelling.
I've only played this game through once so far. I keep hearing about how hard it is to get the neutral ending without a guide, but I must have lucked out, since I got the neutral ending without any guide. Either luck or by complete accident, I was just answering questions as I felt I would have in real life.
As a person who also found Nocturne very lacking, I appreciate that we have similar perspectives (my favorite SMT game is Strange Journey Redux though).
Hey, Crystahl! Somebody probably already told you, but Isabeau's manga is an actual manga you can read! It's called Rose of Versailles, it's a romance manga, and it's even pretty good!
there's also smt4 apocalypse, a game made for those who didn't lie ANY of SMT4's endings so...we'll see what ya think of it.
Stephen's interestng cause he's a character from the first SMT game. I'm not sure if i should extrapolate more about him just in case it spils anythng about him in other games or if you somehow end up playing the first game.
What in the *UA-cam*
It's spreading, and I couldn't b3 happier for dan
I love Burroughs.
But no amount of love can get me to 100% this game.
i'm so glad you understand how special smt iv is
Can't wait for when you get to Strange Journey aka Suffering The Game
It's real great! :D