"Stalin! The Aral Sea is drying up." "But we have cotton." "Yeah, but we lost the Aral Sea fisheries." "But we have cotton." "The land left behind is all salty and worthless." "But we have cotton." "Also, there's old toxic waste residue." "But we have cotton." "The wind kicks up _enormous_ toxic dust storms, which endanger the lives of everyone living nearby!" "But we have cotton." "...Including the cotton, sir." "...Shit."
Here's a big cobra effect. When Mao Zedong's government won the Chinese Civil War, he wanted people to kill sparrows because they were eating all the crops. They killed the sparrows, but they didn't know that the sparrows also killed the bugs which were also eating the crops. So the crops actually were eaten faster and the bug population increased. Mao more like LMao
@@ZOOMPZ00mp .....interesting but I'm thinking to be a cobra effect that the sparrow population would have needed to increase..There aren't really any birds in China cos the Chinese killed and ate em all and ditto for Tibet after they invaded that peaceful country.
You should've mentioned that the north part of the Aral Sea in Kazakchstan is already partlialy restored because salt levels are normal again,several species of fish were stocked and fishing communities are being rebuild.
Why exactly doesn’t California pull water from the ocean? Desalinating water isn’t terrible hard- you boil it, let it evaporate, and re-condense as sterile salt-free water in another tank. Unlimited clean water with minimal environment effect (since the ocean is so big; just need to use lots of low-flow input pipes instead of one big high-flow pipe, so you don’t suck in creatures and plants and stuff), and all you need is a heat source, easily done with electricity or hydrogen-oxygen (which gives you even more clean water as a result) or a another clean energy. I just don’t understand California some times; don’t get me started on how they should just cut some permanent firebreaks across their forests to limit wildfires.
@@CapnSlipp Three problems with using desalinized ocean water: 1.) Present desalinization methods actually requires a very large amount of energy relative to the amount of fresh water it produces. So it would be replacing one ecological problem with another. Clean renewable energy is still way more expensive than fossil fuels, which is why all fossil-fuel plants have not already been replaced by renewable energy. No company is going to invest in a desalinization plant when it is more cost effective to just bring the water in on a truck. 2.) The resulting hyper-salty waste-water wreaks havoc on a large area surrounding the pipes where the water is returned to the ocean. No matter where you put the outlet, there will be an eco-zone that will be severely negatively impacted. 3.) The ocean is large but not infinite. The Aral Sea was the size of Ireland. So imaging a zone that large being effected over the decades. Short-sighted thinking by previous generations assumed that the Earth was large enough to absorb the waste that they were dumping into it without suffering serious consequences. Our generation is now paying a very high price on multiple fronts for that short-sighted thinking. Regarding firebreaks: 1.) Our forests are mostly on federal lands, which means that the US government manages them, not us. 2.) Preemptive fire breaks won't work. Fires are able to jump across six-lane concrete highways with shoulders and cleared vegetation. Which means that you would have to create gigantic swaths of cleared forests to even have a hope of them being effective. That alone would be an environmental nightmare. The only way to create such a large swath of cleared vegetation would be a controlled burn. Forest land tends to be mountainous, so trying to do it with chainsaws, trucks and bulldozers would take years. Vegetation would grow back behind you by the time you got any appreciable area cleared. Controlled burns can only be done under very particularly perfect conditions, and even then they sometimes get out of hand and start uncontrolled fires. If it's too hot, dry or windy, it's too dangerous. If it's too wet, it won't burn. And the burns do create an enormous amount of smoke which travels far, wreaking havoc on both wildlife and humans.
@@ValleySquirrel Your arguments are riddled with fallacies. The first being that all ecological problems are equivalent relative to human prosperity, a notion that is not only inherently false, but also consistently propagated by vastly uneducated pseudo-communists. The second is that brine is even remotely an issue when compared to severe drought in the top agricultural producing and most populated state, this is especially true when considering that there are a number of barren landscapes in California where biological life is already scarce (leading to a disconnect from the greater biome). Not to mention that brine can simply be left out to evaporate in the sun, the byproduct being a large quantity of sea salt easily able of being distributed by the government as part of a state initiative or sold to distributors through a partnership program. The third and undisputedly most ridiculous claim is implying that an "area" the size of Ireland with an average depth of 53 feet is even remotely comparable to the immense volume of the Oceans that have an average depth of nearly 2.5 miles. There is in no way, shape, or form a deficit in Sea water to desalinate/salinate as the sea level is currently in the process of rising. Meaning that not only is that completely false, but desalination will only aid the effort of mitigating sea level rise (even if negligible) and offsetting the dilution of salt in the ocean caused by fresh water ice melting. Outside of the large price tag, there is no foreseeable initiative that holds greater potential in combating the drought affected areas of California.
@@ValleySquirrel As far as the wildfires, there is not much that I really disagree with. I'm currently in the process of selling equipment to the state of California and eventually international governments (including Australia) that has shown to extinguish simulated wildfires at nearly 1,244,000 square feet per half hour (Assuming 10mph constant speed & three 5 minute adjustment periods): that is nearly ten fold the standard. The current development is using the same origami material science that was put in place by NASA in order to cross platform deploy it from the cargo hold of a 747 SuperTanker used by the state of California. This would be a game changer in terms of combating wildfires.
Back in the '60's and '70's when water-deprived California was fighting reluctant neighboring areas over water rights in the surroundings areas, their resistance was because they felt California is a desert; it will always be a desert; and if they draw water from the surrounding areas, those areas will become deserts. Snow cap is gone; mountain lakes have dried; Hoover dam depleted.
Does anyone else think this doesn't sound like a Cobra effect as described at the start of the video? They diverted water from the lake knowing it would harm the lake. That's just poor planning, not a cobra effect. A cobra effect would be trying to repair the lake and it causing people houses to flood or something along those lines.
I think the Cobra Effect comes into play where they were trying to turn a desert into usable land (by diverting water) and it caused a worse desert (one with toxic dust storms) to form.
You could easily argue that the cobra bounty was _also_ poor planning, because it was. "The cobra effect" is a subset of "poor planning," not something entirely separate.
Yeah, it doesn't really fit into the cobra effect category. But again we get to learn about two very important incidents happened in the history so I think it's fine.
Agree with csx fan Nothing was done so far to try and fix it. I was expecting to hear him say something like "they diverted the river back into the Aral but it was too late and that only made it worse"
Australia have been doing the same thing to the Murray-Darling river system - pulling so much water out to irrigate cotton and use for coal mining that the 16th longest river in the world is now just a dry river bed for much of its length.
@@LordAnublz I guess I'm used to a country where they publish the air quality and water quality and if it's over a limit, that beach is temporarily closed for swimming and the signs tell us exactly what the pollution is. Recently one beach had high e-coli - we thought it was sewage, but it was from dogs, not people.
Hey @RealLifeLore you probably won't see this, but I thought I'd share this with you. In my composition class at my university, we had to write a research paper on a social/environmental issue and provide potential solutions and thanks to your video, I wrote a 12 page paper on the Aral Sea Crisis and I got an A on it. So thank you so much for making this video. It truly inspired me!
They did ask me about it but I when I said leave the damn thing along and forget about cotton. They didn't listen. They pointed out we're loosing Lake Meade to run Las Vegas. I said yeah that's an old story. But I didn't deny it.
@@johnmacaroni105 This type of thing is not exclusive to either communism or capitalism, it's simply short sighted greed which is a universal human trait.
I was there, couple of years ago. I came out of car, and wind with dust blown in my face. All around me was desert. Then i saw metallic stairs, going down, 50 meters to place, which was once bed of the Aral sea. There was salt and dead shells and skelets of dead fish. Also, there were four or five rusty ships, decaying, sitting on sand. It was so sad...
@@ESSBrew I am not sure what you mean by California's largest lake, but the Salton Sea is slowly drying up as well. Partly because of efforts to reduce the amount of farm runoff from going into it, which by definition is probably polluted. The Salton Sea was formed accidentally when there was a serious flood on the Colorado River. With all of the great dams on the Colorado River that can never happen again.
I visited it in 1993 and had a coffee in a bar which used to be on the shore of the lake but was at that time 5 kilometres from the water. There were boats and a ship just lying on the sandy ground a few hundred metres from the bar. I knew it was a catastrophe then but I never thought it would completely disappear.
The average weight of a toyota corolla is about 1200 kg, and the aral sea was about 1100km^3 at its peak; considering that it lost about 80%, it had roughly 2,906,685,090,096,700 gallons at its peak and is likely less than 290,668,509,209,700 gallons of water now, so it lost about 2,616,016,580,887,000 gallons of water which is approximately 9,888,542,675,753,000 kilograms of water, so approximately 8,000,000,000,000 Toyota Corollas dried up.
That's the problem with a centrally planned economy. The central part is almost always clueless about local problems, and it doesn't give a damn about anything else other than quotas. Soviet Union and its ambitious agricultural plans ended up causing more famines than ever before, and the Soviet people had to stand in line for hours on end for a loaf of bread or a pound of meat by the 1980s.
Good thing capitalism doesnt turn big parts of the USA into a desert so they can have nice swimming pools and almond farms in California or Vegas! The capitalism part is almost always clueless about local problems, and it doesnt give a damn about anything else other than revenue.
@@LordAnublz As Kennedy once said, America isn't perfect, but at least we don't have to build walls to keep our people in. Or in case of modern day China, constantly surveil every aspect of the lives of over a billion people and censor words on the internet to keep people from rebelling against authoritarianism.
@@MeanMachine1992 I think the main problem is that the centrally planned economy of the Soviet Union was a complete dictatorship where nobody could say no to the higher-up's proposals. If such a centrally planned economy was governed democratically and all elected offices had vigorously enforced term limits, it would theoretically possess the best qualities of both worlds.
@@TheBestAround131 No, centrally planned economies just don't work because a handful of self-important elites don't know the nuances of the economy better than the markets and individuals that actually run it. Bureaucrats are worse at economics than businessmen, unsurprisingly.
Weird then that 90% of the Aral Sea's reduction came after there was no more "centrally planned economy". Take a look at satellite photos of the Aral Sea in 1989, and then take a look at satellite photos 10 years later. The vast majority of the draining came after the fall of the Soviet Union when rampant capitalist exploitation used the infrastructure built under the Soviets to rape the land, much like they did in every other segment of the post-Soviet economy.
In germany we have a nice word for the "Cobra-Effect". We call it "verschlimmbessern" and it is made by the words "verbessern" (improve) and "schlimmer" (worse).
Part of building a design is to take into account the affects the design poses on itself as well as its surroundings, this way you understand your weak points. Being an engineer requires more than just math and physics, you need foresight.
Jaden MacDonald well, Aral Sea situation damaged Kazakhstan more that Uzbekistan, bc Uzbekistan still has access for root of 2 main rivers that used to fed Aral Sea.
believe it or not most people in the world are not familiar with that statment, the usa is not the center of the world. Hate these type of people, not because of that particular comment but the fact that people only care about what happens in america and ignore everything else in the world.
@@adamender9092 All of the decisions were made by the state so no, exploiting the environment doesn't mean capitalism, communist states can also exploit the environment.
The decision was made by Stalin. Communism literally means no social classes and no state ownership. Communism in it's actual form has never actually existed on earth as a government. Any government that says it is communist does so, so that people believe they have equal say. Notive how all the places which are supposedly communist all have leaders.
@@Interitus1 Yeah you are right the USSR indeed wasnt a true communist state, as this has never been achieved, so yeah instead we could say socialist, the USSR was definitely socialist.
@@sotirissotergi nope, the Soviet Union was a fascist government and fascism is literally the end goal of the Capitalists in that it is their banks taking full control of the government's authority, the Soviet Union was literally the exact opposite of Socialism
"Stalin, we are diverting too much water from the Aral Sea and it is rapidly disappearing. What should we do?" "Get more water." "Exactly how are we supposed to do that?" "Simple. We release tons of carbon into our atmosphere, raising global temperature a few degrees. This will cause the polar icecaps to melt, raising sea levels..." "...and lake levels. You're brilliant, sir." "That is correct. There is no problem Stalin can't solve."
I have a question : Was Stalin really alive when Aral Sea started drying up ? 'Cause the majority of the people in the comments say that he was the reason it dried ; Directly/ Indirectly
Pranit Pawar Stalin died in 1953, the Aral Sea began to dry up a few years later. Diverting the rivers that fed the Aral Sea was part of Stalin’s plan to transform the desert into agricultural land.
This is actually very amazing that you bring this one up. I visited the Aral Sea last year and the whole story of it was so interesting that I always thought "Huh wonder why only a small amount of people know this, it is quite cool" Anyway thank you for making this video and informing people about this topic. Good video and keep it up with the good work.
This is definitely not cool who lived or live there and this is the standard result for Red Russia communist experiments like Aral Sea, Chernobyl zone and thouthands from small to huge size locations all over former russian colonies, some of these locations are hazardous to visit for the next dozens thousands years.
Stalin die in 1953. I just wanted you to have this information) And check some information. After him was Khrushchev, who canceled all the achievements and decisions of Stalin. And he died only in 1971.
@@johnreed188 I wouldn't say he cancelled all of them. There's this and the fact that they stayed in Central Europe until Gorbachev told the old Soviet puppets they weren't going to enforce communist tyranny for them anymore.
We could revert the waters back to the lake and clean up the waste and salt left on the dry bed but that would take millions of dollars to accomplish and will ruin the cotton industry
@@ashgreninja7521 they weren't just civilian cities they were home to military bases. Also we bombed them because we were at war with Japan and seeking to end said war. Anyways this has nothing to do with the topic being discussed.
@@NiteStorm324 really, you dont know about it? look it up homie, its really interesting, life there is impossible because of ammount of salt (basically everything gets burned because of salt), but somehow there are bacterias that managed to adopt life in the water,
That guy's not my idol, but he really is awfully solid. I find myself unable to accept only his stance on single-payer health care. (He's against it.) If only his thought were carefully studied by every government leader and every cabinet around the world.
@Mastodon1976 I notice things that I think he wraps up too neatly, but then he probably knows more about them than I do. On the whole I regard him not as the cleverest, but clever at any rate. I appreciate the many basic things he's got right, things which are under threat as each generation proves inferior to the one before. I guess I share some of his social values for the most part, and he articulates them fairly well, which does little to chill my regard for him. I think he has far more respect for others than any of his opposite counterparts who themselves never tire of demanding respect and who as a matter of fact seem to know nothing about it.
@@mitchtherighteous and you are truly really stupid because the comparison is with the Gulf of California fed by the colorado river, as the aral sea is fed by two rivers. Stealing the river is stealing the river. Like your empty channel so is your brain
Cobra Effect in Hawaii: Rats from the explorers ships infested the Island soon after discovery and with no natural predator the problem got worse and worse. Solution: Import Mongoose from India to control the Rat infestation. Cobra Effect: The Rats are diurnal and the Mongoose nocturnal. They coexisted peacefully. The result: Many rare species of birds native ONLY to the Hawaiian Islands were wiped out by the Mongoose. If you travel to Hawaii today you will see that metal bands are fastened around light poles and hydro poles to keep climbing animals from disturbing nesting birds.
Prince Krazie, I know, but "over half a century" sounded better when I was typing it out. And since 65 years IS over half a century, that's what I went with.
@@gordonmcintosh2655 how about being a welder and understanding at 900° Steel starts to bend and can no longer support its own weight. EXTRA SIDE NOTES: top off with burning carpet, furniture made of wood increases the temps over 2000 degrees and a BIG ass hole to supply all the oxygen its needs and you have a recipe for disaster.
@Marisa Nya - This shits hilarious! Another guilty liberal that blames the fossil fuel industry, that makes her life possible. How are you going to get your Starbucks slave labor coffee and Avocado Toast without transportation? How are you going to stay alive during the winter? You need to understand that Global Warming is a hoax. In the 70's climate alarmists said we were entering an ICE AGE because of the green house effect. They said the hole in the ozone layer would give us all skin cancer in the 80's. By the 90's, Al Gore declared no more polar ice, period, by 2012. And by 2016, the Earth was going to be so over populated that there would be mass starvation. All a pack of lies! So we are selfish because we dont live like its the 1800s? When cities had literal mountains of horse shit? Where people burned coal to stay warm? Natural gas is selfish indeed! Lol! FUCK! Some part of me feels sorry for you for not looking into any of this for yourself. You should. The AOC's and Bernies of the world want you to eat bugs, never use air travel, and live in cramped cities like animals. Meanwhile, they buzz around the world on private jets, lecturing the little people about 'how selfish they are'. Instead of getting WOKE try being AWAKE....
@Marisa Nya Sound like Greta Thumberg. You don't get this good convenient life for free. When the society and economy crumble and you don't know how to find food or know what to do, i am doubt that you think much of climate. Or maybe you would like to go and sleep in the jungle, facing the deceases, predator, live like a true animal that fully stick with nature and often get killed by it ? Anyway , don't go to full blindness to our nature like @cyberpimp up here. We know the problems and they are complicated. Don't let any child be like that Thumberg girl. They can live in safer , more civilized life but also aware of problem we are facing. Instead of just talking same topic with no good solution, learn and find the way to fix it, make a better life instead of crying out like little pussy :V That just pathetic, that kid have no idea of poor life and if she go and learn stuff, be a politician or scientist that would be more realistic method
I have a boardgame from 2004 about building railroads in the former USSR that still showed the Aral Sea. You could even buy a ferry across the Sea. Hard to believe even then that the Aral Sea was a mere shadow of what it was.
Exactly right. People think the communists were bad, today's psudo-communists, I mean every professors of social science and their students, are even worse. Especially those climate change fanatics, they are responsible for it.
His counterparts today, now that ISIL apparently is rooted out, are the Western stooges who say we can perfect humanity. All we have to do is take away all its rights, deluge it with commands, arrest and imprison the disobedient, and strike terror into the hearts of the rest. Like ISIL, but out of Yale and Berkeley. (E.g. no men, no women, no races, but it's all about race and there are really 100+ "genders".) Stalin, from hell, 2021: "Oh, these guys are _good. Really_ good."
@@seanleith5312 Yes. And it's the fanaticism that's the problem. But it's revealing to trace the roots. Among my most surprising finds of the past few years was a documentary commissioned by the NYT (I know!) in 2018, probably by some oldsters there who barely got away with it, or didn't. It's called Operation Infektion, running time approaching an hour but it goes by very quickly, well-produced and -written, cogently presented. It traces Western and especially American self-doubt and self-loathing back to an active campaign to foster them in the years before 1990. If you enjoy being surprised it could be your cup of tea. It's here on UA-cam. Go for the film, not the clips. (And it's probably still on the video section of the Times site.)
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You might want to update this video. The Aral or Ariel Sea is refilling thanks to restoration efforts. Might want to be more judicious with the term "WE", "we" didn't do it. The Soviets did.
@@stefanpigford6891 Yes, some yard ago Kazakhstan made a dam to separate the north part of the sea from the South, because the south was drying up faster. With the two lakes separated, the south kept drying while the north one slowly regenerated.
Too bad there are no plans for anything in the foreseeable future. The world is going into a prolonged deep economic depression. Nobody will see any sea over there. 👀
I seems like the Great Salt Lake in Utah was also much larger in the past. Looking at the satellite images of the salt flats in proximity to the lake it seems like the size of the lake was several times the size of what it is now.
I think the lake is a good metaphor for communism. They tried so hard to implement it, but in the end it was super inefficient and not worth it. Eventually it devastates the area that practices it and even after it's gone, it's still causing major problems.
@@greveeen Russia WAS communist (I'm from there), China is ran by the Communist Party of China, and Singapore's constitution specifically states that the government represents the workers. The definition of socialism is when the workers own the means of the production. Since Singapore owns pretty much all means of production within the country, it's easy to say they're market socialists.
@@freeman8128 Stalin had over 26 million of his comrades murdered, killed, maimed and tortured in the name of the Motherland. Its not just about natural resources such as a lake. Its much more than that. Its about human dignity and what is morally and spiritually right. Not Totalitarian governmental control. This type of reasoning is destroying America from within at the present moment with the promise of Utopia once again.
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Seize the means of production for Toyota Corollas and redirect to all Real Life Comrades
They really should let the Rivers Flow Freely again and then Open Hatcharys and Grow fish in the old fishing Communitys, after that they can open Fishing and bring back the lakes Economy. The Cotten isnt worth it anymore and they can find more efficient ways to water the crops.
Countries upstream of two rivers are Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. They do not suffer major damage from dried up Aral sea. It is difficult because of conflict of interests of Central Asian countries
What they should have done with the cobra program is to announce it's termination at some specific future date. That way the breeders would have been able to sell off their existing stock while having no incentive to breed additional snakes for future sale. Of course I say this with the benefit of hindsight so...
@@Burt1038 I thought the same thing. I assumed it was out of spite. Or that the British hated cobras but the Indians loved them or something. Because if you considered cobras bad, why would you release them instead of kill them unless it was out of spite or you liked them in the wild. It's "crying over spilt milk".
The aral sea now is one of those secondary-ish characters that has it’s own cult, I’m pretty sure that now, somewhere in the depths of the internet, there’s a legit gofundme from the aral cult to hire a necromancer, resurrect stalin, and crucify him right in the middle of the Aral desert for his sins
People have already left the planet geniuses have you been under a rock. Guess you haven’t heard of nasa. What do you expect people to heat their homes with vegan farts.
Yeah i know what you mean.. when ever i watch Star Trek i always feel like we're rather the mirror universe version than the one portrait... well the first time i saw Zefram Cochrane pull out the pump action shotgun i had to laugh so hard i nearly suffocated... While i'd rather like to lobby for the peaceful approach... like ST or idk .. maybe Macross... But at our current technological growth we probably need some thousand years until we eventually meet other friendly species out there ... until then they will probably have Sol under quarantine already...
Like Biden cares about the Afghan, Syrian and Palestnian kids being bombed in the name of isis and hamas. Like MBS cares about Yemeni men and women dying everyday. Like erdogan cares about the kurds.
Stalin's quotes like " Where there's a man there's a problem. No man, no problem." AND when presented w/ statistics that a million of his countrymen were murdered at his behest, he always responded with: "Kill a million more." That is the mindset of communist "leaders" like Mao Zedong and Joe Biden.
I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but the city dust storm video at 4:16 is actually Las Vegas, NV. The Carls Jr visible in the foreground is located at the intersection of St Louis Ave and Las Vegas Blvd. The video appears to be taken from one of the SLS Hotel towers (formerly the Sahara resort), located at Sahara & Las Vegas Blvd, towards the north. Downtown Las Vegas can be seen in the distance, with the Plaza Hotel and Golden Nugget clearly visible.
tanker2406, I'm Fine to use it as a reference, Not sure he was misreprenting, but as someone trained in Library and Information systems, then the author can put a subtitle, saying "This is an example of what it may have looked like - Las Vegas {year} {website address}." This stops any distraction from the original reason for the use of the picture, and credits where due if required.
the aral sea is like the story of the lorax a resource is overused and someone tries to stop it from being completely used up, but is too late, and its left to those afterwards to restore it
@@alperenbaser5595 Yep. The difference between a lake and a sea is that seas connect to the World Ocean, while the sea doesn't. When the Caspian Sea was named, it was so big that people thought that it was a sea. (And these get bigger, like the Mediterranean sea) It's not.
@@joedirt6212 socialism is basically gateway communism. Also, I'd like to clarify that I mean "is ours" becoming "was ours" perfectly summarizes communism.
They won't bother explaining it. This is how it works. Replace Stalin/Soviet/Russians/Putin/... Just look at the comments! Logic and propaganda results don't get along.
You're right, although the idea for it came from his 1948 Great Plan for the Transformation of Nature. Doesn't matter too much if it happened under Stalin, Khrushchev or Brezhnev's oversight, the point is that the Soviet Union was an absolutely horrible place.
"Stalin! The Aral Sea is drying up."
"But we have cotton."
"Yeah, but we lost the Aral Sea fisheries."
"But we have cotton."
"The land left behind is all salty and worthless."
"But we have cotton."
"Also, there's old toxic waste residue."
"But we have cotton."
"The wind kicks up _enormous_ toxic dust storms, which endanger the lives of everyone living nearby!"
"But we have cotton."
"...Including the cotton, sir."
"...Shit."
Wrong. Stalin would execute the dude for high treason after he says "Yeah, but we lost the Aral sea fish"
I guess he's talking to Stalin's ghost
Go to Gulag.
he was long dead before all this shit happened, but nice comment anyway
IGN 8/10 not in Russian
Here's a big cobra effect. When Mao Zedong's government won the Chinese Civil War, he wanted people to kill sparrows because they were eating all the crops. They killed the sparrows, but they didn't know that the sparrows also killed the bugs which were also eating the crops. So the crops actually were eaten faster and the bug population increased. Mao more like LMao
Yankees!!!!!!!!!
@@ZOOMPZ00mp .....interesting but I'm thinking to be a cobra effect that the sparrow population would have needed to increase..There aren't really any birds in China cos the Chinese killed and ate em all and ditto for Tibet after they invaded that peaceful country.
because communism does not believe in natural law, let alone God. They think they can do anything. They're not.
@@putikeswarasudarsono i'm sorry, what the fuck?
@@toxicatto6074 Why so surprised? That's very true - communism is naturally anti-nature and anti-morality. As a native Chinese, I can confirm that.
Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan: Hey where’s our lake?
Stalin: Gone, reduced to atoms.
You know its not a good thing about making jokes to this.
We are so ill-proven that all we can in much greater things. Is making everything worse.
Rogue Ascendant chill out
@@kirey5477
Stfu
logically interesting
you're right and I'm wrong but, no
Damn, 5th largest lake must be feeling pretty good.
It's now the fourth XD
And 6th and 7th and 8th and 9th and 10th
@@BornLiveandDieby the 11th must be really happy to be the top 10 now
Specifically Lakes Huron, Michigan, Tanganyika, Baikal, the Great Bear Lake, Lake Malawi and the Great Slave Lake.
@@edwardsmith3838 "Great Slave Lake" I wonder who named it like that
“Kindly let me help you,” says the monkey to the fish as he takes him out of the water and places him in a tree.
You mean, those damn Monkeys kickstarted evolution?
... I knew they are up to something!
@@DaroriDerEinzige 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
return to monke
this is so eloquent and also funny
@@DaroriDerEinzige lmao
Uzbekistan: Did you make cotton?
Stalin: Yes
Uzbekistan: What did it cost?
Stalin: Everything
The aral sea
Eyerything and also including the Cotton
@@bingitybong6518 what is this stupid meme ?
@@irondrugfreewhiteyouth2028 ifinity war
You know its not a good thing about making jokes to this.
We are so ill-proven that all we can in much greater things. Is making everything worse.
You should've mentioned that the north part of the Aral Sea in Kazakchstan is already partlialy restored because salt levels are normal again,several species of fish were stocked and fishing communities are being rebuild.
I'm glad I could finally get a video posted again on Saturday guys. I'll do my best to stick to Saturday uploads again from now on I promise!
Hey rll a quick question what's the name of the music at the beginning of the video? Would be glad if you would reply
It used to be Friday
@RealLifeLore thanks and great video
Let me touch you inappropriately.
@Abage bit of an old joke/meme you know that?
Remember this when California diverts water to the Los Angeles area.
Why exactly doesn’t California pull water from the ocean? Desalinating water isn’t terrible hard- you boil it, let it evaporate, and re-condense as sterile salt-free water in another tank. Unlimited clean water with minimal environment effect (since the ocean is so big; just need to use lots of low-flow input pipes instead of one big high-flow pipe, so you don’t suck in creatures and plants and stuff), and all you need is a heat source, easily done with electricity or hydrogen-oxygen (which gives you even more clean water as a result) or a another clean energy. I just don’t understand California some times; don’t get me started on how they should just cut some permanent firebreaks across their forests to limit wildfires.
@@CapnSlipp Three problems with using desalinized ocean water:
1.) Present desalinization methods actually requires a very large amount of energy relative to the amount of fresh water it produces. So it would be replacing one ecological problem with another. Clean renewable energy is still way more expensive than fossil fuels, which is why all fossil-fuel plants have not already been replaced by renewable energy. No company is going to invest in a desalinization plant when it is more cost effective to just bring the water in on a truck.
2.) The resulting hyper-salty waste-water wreaks havoc on a large area surrounding the pipes where the water is returned to the ocean. No matter where you put the outlet, there will be an eco-zone that will be severely negatively impacted.
3.) The ocean is large but not infinite. The Aral Sea was the size of Ireland. So imaging a zone that large being effected over the decades. Short-sighted thinking by previous generations assumed that the Earth was large enough to absorb the waste that they were dumping into it without suffering serious consequences. Our generation is now paying a very high price on multiple fronts for that short-sighted thinking.
Regarding firebreaks:
1.) Our forests are mostly on federal lands, which means that the US government manages them, not us.
2.) Preemptive fire breaks won't work.
Fires are able to jump across six-lane concrete highways with shoulders and cleared vegetation. Which means that you would have to create gigantic swaths of cleared forests to even have a hope of them being effective. That alone would be an environmental nightmare.
The only way to create such a large swath of cleared vegetation would be a controlled burn. Forest land tends to be mountainous, so trying to do it with chainsaws, trucks and bulldozers would take years. Vegetation would grow back behind you by the time you got any appreciable area cleared.
Controlled burns can only be done under very particularly perfect conditions, and even then they sometimes get out of hand and start uncontrolled fires. If it's too hot, dry or windy, it's too dangerous. If it's too wet, it won't burn. And the burns do create an enormous amount of smoke which travels far, wreaking havoc on both wildlife and humans.
@@ValleySquirrel Your arguments are riddled with fallacies. The first being that all ecological problems are equivalent relative to human prosperity, a notion that is not only inherently false, but also consistently propagated by vastly uneducated pseudo-communists.
The second is that brine is even remotely an issue when compared to severe drought in the top agricultural producing and most populated state, this is especially true when considering that there are a number of barren landscapes in California where biological life is already scarce (leading to a disconnect from the greater biome). Not to mention that brine can simply be left out to evaporate in the sun, the byproduct being a large quantity of sea salt easily able of being distributed by the government as part of a state initiative or sold to distributors through a partnership program.
The third and undisputedly most ridiculous claim is implying that an "area" the size of Ireland with an average depth of 53 feet is even remotely comparable to the immense volume of the Oceans that have an average depth of nearly 2.5 miles. There is in no way, shape, or form a deficit in Sea water to desalinate/salinate as the sea level is currently in the process of rising. Meaning that not only is that completely false, but desalination will only aid the effort of mitigating sea level rise (even if negligible) and offsetting the dilution of salt in the ocean caused by fresh water ice melting.
Outside of the large price tag, there is no foreseeable initiative that holds greater potential in combating the drought affected areas of California.
@@ValleySquirrel As far as the wildfires, there is not much that I really disagree with. I'm currently in the process of selling equipment to the state of California and eventually international governments (including Australia) that has shown to extinguish simulated wildfires at nearly 1,244,000 square feet per half hour (Assuming 10mph constant speed & three 5 minute adjustment periods): that is nearly ten fold the standard. The current development is using the same origami material science that was put in place by NASA in order to cross platform deploy it from the cargo hold of a 747 SuperTanker used by the state of California. This would be a game changer in terms of combating wildfires.
Back in the '60's and '70's when water-deprived California was fighting reluctant neighboring areas over water rights in the surroundings areas, their resistance was because they felt California is a desert; it will always be a desert; and if they draw water from the surrounding areas, those areas will become deserts. Snow cap is gone; mountain lakes have dried; Hoover dam depleted.
*RealLife:* Why Stalin destroyed the world's 4th largest lake in the world.
*Stalin:* >:(
*RealLife:* Why _we_ destroyed..
*Stalin:* :)
@Hakim Mohamad not communists, nobody from Yugoslavia even touched that lake :D
@Hakim Mohamad but you said that it wasn't we, humans, you say that communists aren't humans?
@Hakim Mohamad woah you take the joke too serious, chill dude
@@adminconsole4643 u made my day😂
@Hakim Mohamad you are first to post comment
Does anyone else think this doesn't sound like a Cobra effect as described at the start of the video? They diverted water from the lake knowing it would harm the lake. That's just poor planning, not a cobra effect. A cobra effect would be trying to repair the lake and it causing people houses to flood or something along those lines.
Yeah I agree, they just caused a problem, rather than making an existing one worse
I think the Cobra Effect comes into play where they were trying to turn a desert into usable land (by diverting water) and it caused a worse desert (one with toxic dust storms) to form.
You could easily argue that the cobra bounty was _also_ poor planning, because it was. "The cobra effect" is a subset of "poor planning," not something entirely separate.
Yeah, it doesn't really fit into the cobra effect category. But again we get to learn about two very important incidents happened in the history so I think it's fine.
Agree with csx fan
Nothing was done so far to try and fix it. I was expecting to hear him say something like "they diverted the river back into the Aral but it was too late and that only made it worse"
in soviet russia, you drown lake
In Soviet Russia, you don’t drown in lake, lake drowns by you.
Underrated comment.
In usa you get irradiated by lake
In soviet russia, you iradiate the lake
You did it dude. The Soviet Russia meme has actually just now reached it's cap. The meme is now actually dead. You win internet.
Yes, we can!
Australia have been doing the same thing to the Murray-Darling river system - pulling so much water out to irrigate cotton and use for coal mining that the 16th longest river in the world is now just a dry river bed for much of its length.
Glad to hear they didn't also dump toxic waste into it.
Still trying to figure out why Russians felt that was fine - eating fish from a toxins dump.
and in america we dried out tulare lake bc of cotton, and even had a civil war over cotton and enslaved people over cotton. cotton sucks balls
Thanx for letting us know this. Such information are hardly found on Google
@@FurnitureFan Easy, you just dont tell people.
What they gonna do? Buy a testing kit?
@@LordAnublz I guess I'm used to a country where they publish the air quality and water quality and if it's over a limit, that beach is temporarily closed for swimming and the signs tell us exactly what the pollution is. Recently one beach had high e-coli - we thought it was sewage, but it was from dogs, not people.
Hey @RealLifeLore you probably won't see this, but I thought I'd share this with you. In my composition class at my university, we had to write a research paper on a social/environmental issue and provide potential solutions and thanks to your video, I wrote a 12 page paper on the Aral Sea Crisis and I got an A on it. So thank you so much for making this video. It truly inspired me!
Your next Term Paper (-our American-): "ALAMO GORDO". Your Doctorate Degree: "CHENOBYL"
What was ur solution?
He won't see this,glad u know
Who is 'we'? I was not consulted on this.
In soviet union, there are no individuals. Its just *we*
@@rubifye4739 aaah yes komrade I forget zis. I will report for re edukation immediately.
@@dflatt1783 Are you speaking german comrade?
The human race
They did ask me about it but I when I said leave the damn thing along and forget about cotton. They didn't listen. They pointed out we're loosing Lake Meade to run Las Vegas. I said yeah that's an old story. But I didn't deny it.
If stalin used brilliant, it would still be the 4th largest lake
I got aids reading this
when i can get my model3？
5th*
3rd*
X Æ A-12 can recover it with elon in the future
If nature isn’t broken, don’t try to fix it.
Try explaining that to a Communist
@@johnmacaroni105 not just a commie also an sshole
@@johnmacaroni105 This type of thing is not exclusive to either communism or capitalism, it's simply short sighted greed which is a universal human trait.
Well Communists do love to put square pegs through round holes.
@@ddandymann people are professionals at making bad choices
5 times saltier... I don't even want to imagine how edgy the lake is
😂
...
Oh shit, dogbreath just insulted Dylan! Someone get the popcorn!
you will probably float here
Elvis Bisanovic you’ll float aswell
I was there, couple of years ago. I came out of car, and wind with dust blown in my face. All around me was desert. Then i saw metallic stairs, going down, 50 meters to place, which was once bed of the Aral sea. There was salt and dead shells and skelets of dead fish. Also, there were four or five rusty ships, decaying, sitting on sand. It was so sad...
Same thing happening to Californias largest lake.
@@ESSBrew I am not sure what you mean by California's largest lake, but the Salton Sea is slowly drying up as well. Partly because of efforts to reduce the amount of farm runoff from going into it, which by definition is probably polluted. The Salton Sea was formed accidentally when there was a
serious flood on the Colorado River. With all of the great dams on the Colorado River that can never happen again.
That’s what he meant
Aral Sea: exists
Stalin: hippity hoppity get off my property
Wis tick is no property comrade, is ours!
Our property*
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@@thecha4570 communism 100
Yeah it's wrong title for this video, it's uzbeks' fault. They let russian to invade their country and let them do what they want.
I visited it in 1993 and had a coffee in a bar which used to be on the shore of the lake but was at that time 5 kilometres from the water. There were boats and a ship just lying on the sandy ground a few hundred metres from the bar. I knew it was a catastrophe then but I never thought it would completely disappear.
Crazy to think about
The short answer is Stalin. The long answer is Joseph Stalin.
longer answer is Ioseb Besarionis dzе Jughashvili
The even longer answer is all industries that produce cotton-products.
too bad that piece of shit destroyed everything he touched
@@DonTaquitoABQ Too bad he didn't destroy himself.
@@threat3071 beat me to it
Thank you, Stalin! From people of Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan. We are diyng now, but it's OK, because once you had cotton in the desert!👍
Money at all costs!
This is no different than Stalin taking grain away from peasants to sell to other countries. Never mind the horrific starvation that followed.
@@Baltic_Hammer6162 Stalin hurt the soviet union more than Hitler.
@@tracklizard4018 Poor communism. It could have worked if the politicians weren't corrupt.
@@wdalbright communism ALWAYS fails
Can you give me a number as to how much water dried up? Preferably using Toyota Corollas as measurement
Can I have 1000 subs without posting any videos? Give *us* a number*
The average weight of a toyota corolla is about 1200 kg, and the aral sea was about 1100km^3 at its peak; considering that it lost about 80%, it had roughly 2,906,685,090,096,700 gallons at its peak and is likely less than 290,668,509,209,700 gallons of water now, so it lost about 2,616,016,580,887,000 gallons of water which is approximately 9,888,542,675,753,000 kilograms of water, so approximately 8,000,000,000,000 Toyota Corollas dried up.
@@nate1829 Thank you Nate, very cool
What's with the Toyota Corolla jokes on this vid🤔
I don't know why, but it sounds wildly American..
"We!?" That's a funny way to spell Stalin and his sycophants.
Exactly. "We" didn't do that. Put blame where it belongs.
The horrors of Soviet Capitalism are like a miniature version of the horrors of American Capitalism
@@xp7575 sure sure
Humans did this. Are you a human? Then "we" is correct
This! I read the title and thought, “WE?!? We? Who is we?” Anyway I guess it served it’s purpose to get me to click on the video.
Stalin should have used the brilliant :( what a shame
If he did, the world would have been *much* worse off.
He can't use Brilliant in every case cuz communist are ignorant illiterate
5:20 Soviet engineers should have used Brilliant.
They were just intellectual monsters. They think on only the present but not the future.
@@connordrake5713 No they're still preoccupied with wondering if a tree falls in the woods and no one is around,if it makes a noise.
RLL in 3018 will be like : Why we destroyed the fifth largest planet in the solar system
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
That would be earth actually
:(
Casual Sleeping Dragon Thats the point of the joke
Casual Sleeping Dragon that would be Uranus
That's the problem with a centrally planned economy. The central part is almost always clueless about local problems, and it doesn't give a damn about anything else other than quotas. Soviet Union and its ambitious agricultural plans ended up causing more famines than ever before, and the Soviet people had to stand in line for hours on end for a loaf of bread or a pound of meat by the 1980s.
Good thing capitalism doesnt turn big parts of the USA into a desert so they can have nice swimming pools and almond farms in California or Vegas!
The capitalism part is almost always clueless about local problems, and it doesnt give a damn about anything else other than revenue.
@@LordAnublz As Kennedy once said, America isn't perfect, but at least we don't have to build walls to keep our people in. Or in case of modern day China, constantly surveil every aspect of the lives of over a billion people and censor words on the internet to keep people from rebelling against authoritarianism.
@@MeanMachine1992 I think the main problem is that the centrally planned economy of the Soviet Union was a complete dictatorship where nobody could say no to the higher-up's proposals. If such a centrally planned economy was governed democratically and all elected offices had vigorously enforced term limits, it would theoretically possess the best qualities of both worlds.
@@TheBestAround131 No, centrally planned economies just don't work because a handful of self-important elites don't know the nuances of the economy better than the markets and individuals that actually run it. Bureaucrats are worse at economics than businessmen, unsurprisingly.
Weird then that 90% of the Aral Sea's reduction came after there was no more "centrally planned economy".
Take a look at satellite photos of the Aral Sea in 1989, and then take a look at satellite photos 10 years later. The vast majority of the draining came after the fall of the Soviet Union when rampant capitalist exploitation used the infrastructure built under the Soviets to rape the land, much like they did in every other segment of the post-Soviet economy.
The desert could be used as gulag 2.0
**OUR* desert
A huge capacity gulag u say? PERFECT
You mean Corrective Labour Settlements?
That was the official name of gulags.
@@pranishchhetri777 Do you mean *WORK FOR THE MOTHERLAND* ?
In germany we have a nice word for the "Cobra-Effect". We call it "verschlimmbessern" and it is made by the words "verbessern" (improve) and "schlimmer" (worse).
Asking a non-German speaker to pronounce verschlimmbessern is itself a verschlimmbessern.
I'm not a German speaker.
Versh-limm-beh-sern.
It's a verb, not a noun.
We see what you did there, *comrade*
Der Deponianer that's not a nice word for cobra effect. That's a long word for cobra effect
4:17- That's amazing that drying up a lake in Uzbekistan causes toxic dust storms in Las Vegas!!
LOL
Gota love stock footage
It was stalins plan for making texas commie. (Dust storm has communist drug in it)
I Smoke Sauce Las Vegas......isn't in Texas.
Frick
Part of building a design is to take into account the affects the design poses on itself as well as its surroundings, this way you understand your weak points. Being an engineer requires more than just math and physics, you need foresight.
We did it to make room for a new Toyota Corolla factory.
Lmao
The Real Germany faker
A Toyota AE86 Corolla Factory to make Animes
@@anggahartoto
*D I d S o m E o N e S a Y aE86?*
LONG LIVE THE DDR
Mr. Stalin... I don't feel so good...
The NuggetBacon STOP WITH THIS SHIT ASS MARVEL JOKE GOD
Mr. Stalin... *WE* don’t feel so good...
Noice Despacito Spider pic. Where may I get one?
The next president of Uzbekistan should run on "We're gonna build a lake, and Russia's gonna pay for it."
Sad but true.
Jaden MacDonald well, Aral Sea situation damaged Kazakhstan more that Uzbekistan, bc Uzbekistan still has access for root of 2 main rivers that used to fed Aral Sea.
believe it or not most people in the world are not familiar with that statment, the usa is not the center of the world. Hate these type of people, not because of that particular comment but the fact that people only care about what happens in america and ignore everything else in the world.
CaptainAhab117 With the break up of the Soviet Union, the Aral Sea is now Uzbekistan's problem, in the same way Chernobyl is Ukraine's.
MUGA!
"Capitalism is bad for the environment"
Communism: Hold my vodka"
What he was doing to the lake wash capitalism though
@@adamender9092 All of the decisions were made by the state so no, exploiting the environment doesn't mean capitalism, communist states can also exploit the environment.
The decision was made by Stalin. Communism literally means no social classes and no state ownership. Communism in it's actual form has never actually existed on earth as a government. Any government that says it is communist does so, so that people believe they have equal say. Notive how all the places which are supposedly communist all have leaders.
@@Interitus1 Yeah you are right the USSR indeed wasnt a true communist state, as this has never been achieved, so yeah instead we could say socialist, the USSR was definitely socialist.
@@sotirissotergi nope, the Soviet Union was a fascist government and fascism is literally the end goal of the Capitalists in that it is their banks taking full control of the government's authority, the Soviet Union was literally the exact opposite of Socialism
One of those ‘cobra’ clips is actually a harmless Californian Red Sided Garter Snake. They’re often kept as pets.
ok nerd
OK that's not an aral sea thing bruh go out delete your comment
Ahahahhaha I was wondering if anyone else noticed that. I'm glad I'm not the only one who did. I wonder why they used that snake for the close up lol
And that fishing clip is clearly from North America (US or Canada), which you can tell by the 1990's Ford F-Series pickup in the background.
Don't you just love how ignoramuses detest the knowledgable. Being envied is really satisfying.
Comrades! Let's destroy the lake!
Anyone who comments I see u everywhere can shut up it’s a way of life now
KKomrade
@@yxt8948 It took me a solid minute to figure out what you're saying.
Idiot Sandwich please translate for me
@@supahx1421 he says that everyone now says "i see you everywhere" to people that comment in every video
"why we destroyed" like bruh i was not involved😂
experiment 626 by we he means humans
Lilo and stitch best disney movie
But it was the Soviet Union so it’s we
knowing and doing nothing about it make you guilty, and don't tell me you didn't know, you know now and you still do nothing about it
@@Hewtz Law stoped transfering debts from dad to son hundreds of years ago just for some tards to bring it back
I learned about this in school and studied it for a while in History class. One of the most interesting thing I remember learning recently.
We destroyed it because we needed the water to grow those animal things
Furries?
I thought he was referring to humans? XD
Hey real life lore, I love your channel you teach me so many things every time you upload a video. Keep it up man.
Oh hi its you again xD
ColaMannen445 hello lol
Ryyse no I have seen him on his Instagram, and it’s obvious by his voice.
"Stalin, we are diverting too much water from the Aral Sea and it is rapidly disappearing. What should we do?"
"Get more water."
"Exactly how are we supposed to do that?"
"Simple. We release tons of carbon into our atmosphere, raising global temperature a few degrees. This will cause the polar icecaps to melt, raising sea levels..."
"...and lake levels. You're brilliant, sir."
"That is correct. There is no problem Stalin can't solve."
I have a question : Was Stalin really alive when Aral Sea started drying up ? 'Cause the majority of the people in the comments say that he was the reason it dried ; Directly/ Indirectly
Pranit Pawar Stalin died in 1953, the Aral Sea began to dry up a few years later. Diverting the rivers that fed the Aral Sea was part of Stalin’s plan to transform the desert into agricultural land.
@@xnetpc Thanks
Actually there was a plan to redirrect some sibirean rivers (Ob' and Enisey) to this region.
Stalin died ten years prior to Aral Sea starting to dry up
"We" !? Who's "we"? It was the Soviet regime that did it.
Nobody cared about it aswell so we have a part in it
We as humans
This was my same thought. This decision was extremely localized. Ain't no "We" in it!
@@cenewman007 it’s always us, as humans.
@@mave2789 Nah, the Euros can take 100% of that L. My people were chilling in harmony with mother nature.
Cobra effect?........ More commonly known as the Law of Unintended Consequences
Or colloquially, just politics.
*The Aral Sea has left the server*
*THE MAP HAS LOGGED OFF*
You know its not a good thing about making jokes to this.
We are so ill-proven that all we can in much greater things. Is making everything worse.
This is actually very amazing that you bring this one up. I visited the Aral Sea last year and the whole story of it was so interesting that I always thought "Huh wonder why only a small amount of people know this, it is quite cool" Anyway thank you for making this video and informing people about this topic. Good video and keep it up with the good work.
This is definitely not cool who lived or live there and this is the standard result for Red Russia communist experiments like Aral Sea, Chernobyl zone and thouthands from small to huge size locations all over former russian colonies, some of these locations are hazardous to visit for the next dozens thousands years.
cool is not the word i would use
your videos are allweys just unique.
Regardless that in the end you conected it some how with some adds.
Uzbekistan: Wait. Stalin, which lake did we destroy?
Stalin: The Aral Sea
Uzbekistan: And how much did it cost?
Stalin: The Aral Sea
R/technicallythetruth
And Uzbekistan continuing drying this lake.
what
Stalin die in 1953.
I just wanted you to have this information)
And check some information.
After him was Khrushchev, who canceled all the achievements and decisions of Stalin. And he died only in 1971.
@@johnreed188 I wouldn't say he cancelled all of them. There's this and the fact that they stayed in Central Europe until Gorbachev told the old Soviet puppets they weren't going to enforce communist tyranny for them anymore.
Hopefully we can revive the lake one day.
I doubt we could, unless we're willing to pay billions of dollars just to do so.
We could revert the waters back to the lake and clean up the waste and salt left on the dry bed but that would take millions of dollars to accomplish and will ruin the cotton industry
Or prevent the drying of others cough cough the dead sea
Every year I visit the dead sea I find the beach got bigger and the water level fell like 5 meters
The problem is how toxic now the area is.
Appropriate title
"Why did mother russia destroy *OUR* 4th largest lake"
Soviet Union and Russia is not the same
Random Pikachu what? What does that have to do with this?
@@ashgreninja7521 they weren't just civilian cities they were home to military bases. Also we bombed them because we were at war with Japan and seeking to end said war. Anyways this has nothing to do with the topic being discussed.
@@ashgreninja7521 Are you actually attempting to piss someone off? Or are you actually stupid?
@Michael Hoppmann You do realize there were more deaths related to the American fire bomb campaigns over mainland Japan correct?
They bring now more water into the Aral Sea and it’s becoming bigger again.
is there any source about this please?
Uzbekistan and Khazakstan hasn’t got any official plans for that, *source?*
Aral Sea : *Is 5x saltier*
Dead Sea : *_Are You Challenging me?_*
Whats a dead sea?
@@NiteStorm324 It's a sea of salt between jordania and israel
@@NiteStorm324 really, you dont know about it? look it up homie, its really interesting, life there is impossible because of ammount of salt (basically everything gets burned because of salt), but somehow there are bacterias that managed to adopt life in the water,
same stupid engineering, seems like the most countries dont want to keep their lakes
"There is nothing so good that politics can't make it bad and nothing so bad that politics can't make it worse." Thomas Sowell
@Mastodon1976 that’s politics in a nutshell.
That guy's not my idol, but he really is awfully solid. I find myself unable to accept only his stance on single-payer health care. (He's against it.)
If only his thought were carefully studied by every government leader and every cabinet around the world.
@Mastodon1976 I notice things that I think he wraps up too neatly, but then he probably knows more about them than I do. On the whole I regard him not as the cleverest, but clever at any rate.
I appreciate the many basic things he's got right, things which are under threat as each generation proves inferior to the one before. I guess I share some of his social values for the most part, and he articulates them fairly well, which does little to chill my regard for him.
I think he has far more respect for others than any of his opposite counterparts who themselves never tire of demanding respect and who as a matter of fact seem to know nothing about it.
Here here !!!!
@Mastodon1976 lol, MSNBC Lover.....talk about FOS!
You mean the Soviet Union destryoed that lake..
I came here to post this. I wouldnt even consider it a controversial statement because the Soviets are a dead empire.
no different than the Colorado river no longer going to the Cortez Sea, California Gulf.
@@richardschiller7803 comparing a river to the 4th largest body of water, that seems like a reasonable comparison.
@@mitchtherighteous and you are truly really stupid because the comparison is with the Gulf of California fed by the colorado river, as the aral sea is fed by two rivers. Stealing the river is stealing the river. Like your empty channel so is your brain
Must Americans jump at every opportunity to make themselves look like children.
Cobra Effect in Hawaii: Rats from the explorers ships infested the Island soon after discovery and with no natural predator the problem got worse and worse. Solution: Import Mongoose from India to control the Rat infestation. Cobra Effect: The Rats are diurnal and the Mongoose nocturnal. They coexisted peacefully. The result: Many rare species of birds native ONLY to the Hawaiian Islands were wiped out by the Mongoose. If you travel to Hawaii today you will see that metal bands are fastened around light poles and hydro poles to keep climbing animals from disturbing nesting birds.
Woop di doo, who would have guessed! It's Stalin's fault!
He's been dead for over half a century and the world is still cleaning up his mess. What a legacy....
@@rvoight92 65 years akchuali!
Prince Krazie, I know, but "over half a century" sounded better when I was typing it out. And since 65 years IS over half a century, that's what I went with.
That could be said about a lot of things
if it wasn't for stalins policies then you would live in a protectorate of germany right now
Title : why WE
Video: talks about stalin
Me : hmmm gotcha
I didn’t do anything to the lake!!
@imma p
Some people might now ask what you did for it :-P
liked your name hahaha
Ikr, tbh this the first time I’ve actually heard of this lake - wtf did I, or even anyone watching this, do? 😂
Sharing the burden: Communist style
I'm from Uzbekistan, where Aral Sea is situated in. So, the problem is so serious. It's becoming more serious the year by year.
Any news on the schemes to revive it? Would be fantastic to see it filling up again, although I don't know if this is even possible at this stage.
@@earthredalert by peeing In it
What if the canal is closed so the river can fill it up again?
@@lol-ih1tl oh ok tnx
@@lol-ih1tl That makes sense. So what's stopping them from removing the chemicals and rusted ships?
It feels like only the Dutch know how to bend nature to their will
The moral of this is that the USSR didn’t use Brilliant.
Lol
How about being more brilliant and comparing the melting point of steel to the temperature of burning jet fuel.
@@gordonmcintosh2655 how about being a welder and understanding at 900° Steel starts to bend and can no longer support its own weight. EXTRA SIDE NOTES: top off with burning carpet, furniture made of wood increases the temps over 2000 degrees and a BIG ass hole to supply all the oxygen its needs and you have a recipe for disaster.
Yet today there are people who wanna try that system out again.
It could happen in the U.S., the morons out west, would like nothing more, than to pipe water from the great lakes, which would , eventually drain it.
"We" = The Soviet Union
Fucking communists.
@@quisqueyanguy120 fk u
no we...
@Marisa Nya - This shits hilarious! Another guilty liberal that blames the fossil fuel industry, that makes her life possible. How are you going to get your Starbucks slave labor coffee and Avocado Toast without transportation? How are you going to stay alive during the winter?
You need to understand that Global Warming is a hoax. In the 70's climate alarmists said we were entering an ICE AGE because of the green house effect. They said the hole in the ozone layer would give us all skin cancer in the 80's. By the 90's, Al Gore declared no more polar ice, period, by 2012. And by 2016, the Earth was going to be so over populated that there would be mass starvation. All a pack of lies!
So we are selfish because we dont live like its the 1800s? When cities had literal mountains of horse shit? Where people burned coal to stay warm? Natural gas is selfish indeed! Lol! FUCK!
Some part of me feels sorry for you for not looking into any of this for yourself. You should. The AOC's and Bernies of the world want you to eat bugs, never use air travel, and live in cramped cities like animals. Meanwhile, they buzz around the world on private jets, lecturing the little people about 'how selfish they are'. Instead of getting WOKE try being AWAKE....
@Marisa Nya Sound like Greta Thumberg. You don't get this good convenient life for free. When the society and economy crumble and you don't know how to find food or know what to do, i am doubt that you think much of climate. Or maybe you would like to go and sleep in the jungle, facing the deceases, predator, live like a true animal that fully stick with nature and often get killed by it ?
Anyway , don't go to full blindness to our nature like @cyberpimp up here. We know the problems and they are complicated. Don't let any child be like that Thumberg girl. They can live in safer , more civilized life but also aware of problem we are facing. Instead of just talking same topic with no good solution, learn and find the way to fix it, make a better life instead of crying out like little pussy :V That just pathetic, that kid have no idea of poor life and if she go and learn stuff, be a politician or scientist that would be more realistic method
Last I heard Kazakhstan has made minor progress in filling the lake while Uzbekistan has faltered.
I have a boardgame from 2004 about building railroads in the former USSR that still showed the Aral Sea. You could even buy a ferry across the Sea. Hard to believe even then that the Aral Sea was a mere shadow of what it was.
"Stalin believe he could transform nature,"
*We are rulled by infinite stalins today
This is genuinely very well said.
Exactly right. People think the communists were bad, today's psudo-communists, I mean every professors of social science and their students, are even worse. Especially those climate change fanatics, they are responsible for it.
His counterparts today, now that ISIL apparently is rooted out, are the Western stooges who say we can perfect humanity. All we have to do is take away all its rights, deluge it with commands, arrest and imprison the disobedient, and strike terror into the hearts of the rest. Like ISIL, but out of Yale and Berkeley. (E.g. no men, no women, no races, but it's all about race and there are really 100+ "genders".) Stalin, from hell, 2021: "Oh, these guys are _good. Really_ good."
@@seanleith5312 Yes. And it's the fanaticism that's the problem.
But it's revealing to trace the roots. Among my most surprising finds of the past few years was a documentary commissioned by the NYT (I know!) in 2018, probably by some oldsters there who barely got away with it, or didn't. It's called Operation Infektion, running time approaching an hour but it goes by very quickly, well-produced and -written, cogently presented. It traces Western and especially American self-doubt and self-loathing back to an active campaign to foster them in the years before 1990. If you enjoy being surprised it could be your cup of tea.
It's here on UA-cam. Go for the film, not the clips. (And it's probably still on the video section of the Times site.)
Wat
Give this video a lake
GET OUT!
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@@ΔημήτριοςΧαντζόπουλος ur mom giey
You might want to update this video. The Aral or Ariel Sea is refilling thanks to restoration efforts. Might want to be more judicious with the term "WE", "we" didn't do it. The Soviets did.
Good to have updates on it ...
@@stefanpigford6891 Yes, some yard ago Kazakhstan made a dam to separate the north part of the sea from the South, because the south was drying up faster. With the two lakes separated, the south kept drying while the north one slowly regenerated.
Thom Fisher aral sea
But Thom Fisher,the Soviets didn't destroy the Aral sea,the Vikings did!(I like Oversimplified)
@@creepywas5249 Well contemporary Russia came from lands founded by Rurikovitch, who was a Viking.
Fucking Vikings!
Not just math and physics but understanding ecosystems and how we need to be a part of them and not work against them!!!!
I'd love to see a part 2 of this video, showing what plans are to save the Aral sea.
Too bad there are no plans for anything in the foreseeable future.
The world is going into a prolonged deep economic depression.
Nobody will see any sea over there. 👀
I seems like the Great Salt Lake in Utah was also much larger in the past. Looking at the satellite images of the salt flats in proximity to the lake it seems like the size of the lake was several times the size of what it is now.
Look up Western Interior Seaway half of the Western US was just a sea
@@bradthompson5383 We have nothing to do with it
I think the lake is a good metaphor for communism.
They tried so hard to implement it, but in the end it was super inefficient and not worth it. Eventually it devastates the area that practices it and even after it's gone, it's still causing major problems.
Magos Errant Malleator pretty much communism in a nutshell
That's quite a clever observation, actually.
Singapore, a socialist market economy, is richer than any capitalist country. Also, communism gives you Russia and China. Capitalism gives you Africa.
Xharles Hasxov singapore is Capitalistic, so are Russia and China. How misinformed are you?
@@greveeen Russia WAS communist (I'm from there), China is ran by the Communist Party of China, and Singapore's constitution specifically states that the government represents the workers. The definition of socialism is when the workers own the means of the production. Since Singapore owns pretty much all means of production within the country, it's easy to say they're market socialists.
I’m beginning to think this guy Stalin wasn’t a nice guy
he is a free Mason
The idea was not from Stalin but from his successor Nikita Krushchev.
Not your average friendly neighborhood commie
Commies are evil. Duh.
@@freeman8128 Stalin had over 26 million of his comrades murdered, killed, maimed and tortured in the name of the Motherland. Its not just about natural resources such as a lake. Its much more than that. Its about human dignity and what is morally and spiritually right. Not Totalitarian governmental control. This type of reasoning is destroying America from within at the present moment with the promise of Utopia once again.
Seize the means of production for Toyota Corollas and redirect to all Real Life Comrades
Just squeeze a tiddy and fill that lake back up in no time comrade!
ALL REAL LIFE COMRADES WILL HAVE TOYOTA COROLLA
They really should let the Rivers Flow Freely again and then Open Hatcharys and Grow fish in the old fishing Communitys, after that they can open Fishing and bring back the lakes Economy. The Cotten isnt worth it anymore and they can find more efficient ways to water the crops.
well the canals should have been covered arg all that evaporation, but now they just should be closed
Countries upstream of two rivers are Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. They do not suffer major damage from dried up Aral sea. It is difficult because of conflict of interests of Central Asian countries
This shouldn't have been titled "Why We Destroyed...". It should be "How Stalin Destroyed..."
How far left political ideas destroyed
What they should have done with the cobra program is to announce it's termination at some specific future date. That way the breeders would have been able to sell off their existing stock while having no incentive to breed additional snakes for future sale. Of course I say this with the benefit of hindsight so...
What i don't get is why they released the cobras. It would make more sense to just kill them. Then you might be able to sell the skins or meat.
@@Burt1038 I thought the same thing. I assumed it was out of spite. Or that the British hated cobras but the Indians loved them or something. Because if you considered cobras bad, why would you release them instead of kill them unless it was out of spite or you liked them in the wild. It's "crying over spilt milk".
Africa would want that water
It’s salt
I bless the rains down in Africa...
*If they want some salty water, they can drink my pee*
Kazakhstan would want that water.
The river nile exists
Man I miss that lake. It was the best lake
@USA#1 !! He said best, not largest.
You Americans..
It was yuge
What happened with the eastern river?
We have a great lake on the border with Canada. It's Superior
@@chatteyj it dried up too
Stalin: That's fine, keep going.
Only oversimplified fans will understand
Guys stalin in this video said its fine i know its not hitler
Oh yeah yeah, your name is what I was going to say
I'm an oversimplified fan
Which video
Zed Eon WW2 part 2
this enraged…
The aral sea now is one of those secondary-ish characters that has it’s own cult,
I’m pretty sure that now, somewhere in the depths of the internet, there’s a legit gofundme from the aral cult to hire a necromancer, resurrect stalin, and crucify him right in the middle of the Aral desert for his sins
To be fair, that guy did a lot of stuff worthy of a public execution.
@@TheBestAround131 correct
The worst "Cobra Effect"
was on Planet Earth.
If we ever get off this planet,
we'll be those resource
stealing aliens you always
see in movies.
Amen
You self-loathing pansy. Resources are needed for reproduction. Embrace your nature.
People have already left the planet geniuses have you been under a rock. Guess you haven’t heard of nasa. What do you expect people to heat their homes with vegan farts.
Yeah i know what you mean.. when ever i watch Star Trek i always feel like we're rather the mirror universe version than the one portrait... well the first time i saw Zefram Cochrane pull out the pump action shotgun i had to laugh so hard i nearly suffocated...
While i'd rather like to lobby for the peaceful approach... like ST or idk .. maybe Macross...
But at our current technological growth we probably need some thousand years until we eventually meet other friendly species out there ... until then they will probably have Sol under quarantine already...
"His people." Like Stalin cared about his or any people.
@Caligula your buddy
Like Biden cares about the Afghan, Syrian and Palestnian kids being bombed in the name of isis and hamas. Like MBS cares about Yemeni men and women dying everyday. Like erdogan cares about the kurds.
Stalin's quotes like " Where there's a man there's a problem. No man, no problem." AND when presented w/ statistics that a million of his countrymen were murdered at his behest, he always responded with: "Kill a million more." That is the mindset of communist "leaders" like Mao Zedong and Joe Biden.
@@alisajjad4591 no argument here
@@thetransmogrifer2522 the communists killed more people than the nazis in the 20th century. But we only hear about one side today.
Papa Stalin said lake was capitalist
Lake no longer exist
Loaded Taco Stalin did nothing wrong
He destroyed the lake
Stalin died in 1953. The canals weren't dug unti the 1960's. Obviously others played a role; however, using "we" in the title seems a tad odd.
I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but the city dust storm video at 4:16 is actually Las Vegas, NV. The Carls Jr visible in the foreground is located at the intersection of St Louis Ave and Las Vegas Blvd. The video appears to be taken from one of the SLS Hotel towers (formerly the Sahara resort), located at Sahara & Las Vegas Blvd, towards the north. Downtown Las Vegas can be seen in the distance, with the Plaza Hotel and Golden Nugget clearly visible.
I could go for a burger.
He was using it as reference to give you an example of what he was trying to get across
No he was misrepesenting facts to push a fake agenda. ajonate called him out on his bullshit
@@Uranium_Enjoyer
@@waldonowaldo8059 Shut up, what if there is no actual footage of these toxic storms, yet they exist?
tanker2406, I'm Fine to use it as a reference, Not sure he was misreprenting, but as someone trained in Library and Information systems, then the author can put a subtitle, saying "This is an example of what it may have looked like - Las Vegas {year} {website address}."
This stops any distraction from the original reason for the use of the picture, and credits where due if required.
Wait... Is it a sea or a lake?
It was a sea until it started to dry
it's called a sea because it's so much bigger than most lakes
A puddle
Neither...anymore.
Alexandre Man it’s a salt water lake.
Person in 2050: why did the coronavirus almost wipe out humanity
RLL: Well the short answer is Stalin
SonarGD Yep. That’s accurate, since Stalin elevated the Chinese Communist Party to Power.
@@davimello2420 wait omg
Chinese Communist Party=CCP
@@davimello2420 actually no, it's arguably the Japanese
wtf bros
There are other reasons, like you could go back millions of years, tbh lol
When you put "We" in the title. You put a whole lot of blame on me. I'm now feeling guilty for something I did not partake in
Was I the only one who felt a bit sad whistle watching this?
That whistle was an accident but I won't edit that out
i always feel sad whistle
@@ajnode I am not going to edit that
I am assuming you meant whilst, but I would like to think that whistle watching is something that exists too
Whistle watching
There are some who can feel ashamed of what our civilization has done, don't let that stop you from reflecting your true self though!
Damn I hope they manage to revive it. It saddens me to see stuff like this.
Sythicol they can’t
I was just leaning about this in class yesterday...
Now it’s in my recommended🤔🤔
FBI open up!
the aral sea is like the story of the lorax
a resource is overused and someone tries to stop it from being completely used up, but is too late, and its left to those afterwards to restore it
Stalin : Diverts rivers to grow cotton in Uzbekistan
*Lake dries up*
Stalin : Surprised Pikachu :o
Stalin was dead for two decades by the time anyone realised there was a problem. but i see your point
Because BOTH of the rivers were dammed.
Name: Aral Sea
*4th Largest lake in the world*
Seems legit
It used to be a sea cause of it's shear size but now that it is so small it is considered a lake
Considering that the largest lake in the world is called Caspian Sea, yes it's very legit.
@Jeremy G Caspian Sea ?
@@alperenbaser5595 Yep. The difference between a lake and a sea is that seas connect to the World Ocean, while the sea doesn't. When the Caspian Sea was named, it was so big that people thought that it was a sea. (And these get bigger, like the Mediterranean sea) It's not.
It is technically a lake since it's surrounded by land, but of course it's called a sea due to its water being salty.
I’m actually doing an entire project in school on the Aral Sea!
TitanicMegalodon how was it?
Everyone here in Uzbekistan does projects at school about the Aral sea
However nobody actually cares about people living next to it
Plagerism'd be soooo easy XD
lol i hope that project went well, without the plagerism XD
Project ended a year ago. Got a 98% grade. Not too shabby.
I've literally never heard of the "Cobra Effect".
Me either, and the disappearing lake doesn't even seem to fit the given example.
@hell I knew it as a perverse incentive, which more accurately fits the Aral example, I think
Soviet Union: This is *Our* water
Was*
@@RenerDeCastro yeah, that actually summarises communism in its entirety.
Kaleb Bruwer communism and socialism
@@joedirt6212 socialism is basically gateway communism.
Also, I'd like to clarify that I mean "is ours" becoming "was ours" perfectly summarizes communism.
Stalin died in 1953
Lake shit started in 1960
Explain pls
Karso he came back from the dead and told
Khrushchev to do it.
They won't bother explaining it. This is how it works. Replace Stalin/Soviet/Russians/Putin/... Just look at the comments! Logic and propaganda results don't get along.
You're right, although the idea for it came from his 1948 Great Plan for the Transformation of Nature. Doesn't matter too much if it happened under Stalin, Khrushchev or Brezhnev's oversight, the point is that the Soviet Union was an absolutely horrible place.
@@HappyNemo Гвинт ви
It was Stalin's plan. He just never lived to execute it. Is that so hard to understand?
Make a video of possible solutions! That would be great
The solution to this problem, is to destroy Uzbekistan's agricultural industry.