Hop may not end up being the most meta, but for sure will be super fun. Better get some more Secret boxes cus this will literally be insanely fun Also I believe Archaludon will be good there too to boost energies
Definitely will first be trying to use Archaludon ex to power up Hop's Zacian ex. It's a fantastic back up attacker and against single prize decks also.
Plus Iono's stadium gives a free electric Energy Retrieval each turn, so you can recover at least 2 from discard each turn to be played with Bellibolt.
You're leaving a fat no-energy liability in play. It works with dialga vstar because you're stealing a turn so you'd see more cards to prepare against stalling out the archaludons
@@ethandavis2373 yet a pure archaludon made top 8 in Japans Champions League. and you are using scoop up and turo to get it back to hand so you can use it again, while also being able to clear any attempt to stall it in active
Probably you are playing giant tree as your ace specs or else may be neo upper energy. But without rotom and forest seal stone setting up both mammo and pidgeot turn two could be tough so giant tree probably be the choice
Mamoswine with the stage 2s that they cheat themselves in, seem pretty powerful. Too bad we are losing Gengar but we still have Klinkling and Luxray that can do that. Plus having Pidgeot so you are searching for two cards every turn... It might be good.
I can see the mamoswine working with an infernape or blaziken ex line. With its ability + pidgeot ex + grand tree + both pidgey and swinub’s call for family attacks it would probably be pretty easy to manage 3 stage 2 lines. Kinda interesting how they’re bringing back buzzrock and trade zoroark, feels like early sun and moon again. Who knows, maybe we’ll get ultra beasts back in a little.
Prize retrieval is back! I can see exchange ticket played in lots of decks. Do a prize check, if anything is missing, play Ticket, especially if you already have what else you need out of your deck.
@Aimnoos I think you'll usually have searched out your other important cards before playing it. Not to say it *couldn't* screw you, but I think if you don't just play it willy nilly, it'll be an infrequent issue. Oh, and if Pokémon are your main concern, Dusk Ball seems pretty good with it?
My only problem with this hops deck is that retreat cost on Snorlax looks SUS AF, either you play switches or latias and by playing latias that bench space looks a little tight, Jamming Tower gonna go brrrrrr against this deck (Zacian, 2 Metang, Snorlax, Latias) it doesnt look that there is space for a draw cards/consistency/disruptive pokemon like cleffa, budew, Fez, etc...
Hops Snorlax is gonna be busted. Stadiums are bit tricky to set up reliably but tool should be easy. With the Hops band on it does 200dmg for 2 colorless as a single prizer. Maybe play with some curly wall Bouffalants and glass trumpets and should be no issue chaining and it may even tank a hit or two.
It's a decent backup attacker, especially since it'll actually do 230 with the stadium and tool in play (Snorlax's ability doesn't exclude itself). That said, the attack does 80 damage to itself, which isn't reduced by Curly Wall, so your opponent is realistically always going to KO it on their turn if they can attack (they only need to hit for 130 even with Curly Wall up), and it'll always kill itself with its second attack without healing.
Ah yeah curly wall not as good as I thought. I was thinking a single prizer deck just force them to KO your snorlax (or Cram) 6 times while you're a decent chance of OHKOing EXs. The 30+30dmg to the bench from Zacian could be a nice clean up job for something Snorlax can't quite OHKO
Straight up Buzzroc with the tools (literally Choice Band) and stadium damage boost, there is also Zoroark ex having the trade ability like Zoroark GX.
problem is the deck would be dead due to Iron throrns + dragapults will still be popular after rotation. And there are no canceling cologne to save you.
with risk running against Thorns that will be so rampant.. since the excellent card against it is rotated. no canceling cologne will save it once matched against Iron thorns + dragapult user which probably will be increasing even more.
@phoenixwulf6010 snorlax attack with just 2 energies potentially and cramorant with 0 so it shouldn't be too difficult. Soften them with zacian first attack and finish them with snorlax & cramorant.
Luxurious Cape or Hero's Cape + some kind of passive healing (e.g. Blessed Salt Garganacl...there's probably something better, though Radiant Tsareena is rotating) to hit 3 times per Electrode would be really funny. Not _good_...but funny.
@@pargustavsson712 I mean, if you run enough Pokémon or thin the rest of your deck enough, Dusk Ball isn't bad on its own. With Exchange Ticket and things like Iono giving you some knowledge about what's on the bottom of your deck...could be worth it.
Secret box will completely set you up for hop Pokemon also snorlax can do 230 for 2 energies on a single prized
Hop may not end up being the most meta, but for sure will be super fun. Better get some more Secret boxes cus this will literally be insanely fun
Also I believe Archaludon will be good there too to boost energies
i think it might be better with hyper aroma (assuming you are using dubwool and metang/archuladon)
Definitely will first be trying to use Archaludon ex to power up Hop's Zacian ex. It's a fantastic back up attacker and against single prize decks also.
Between generator and Iono’s Bellibolt you’ll be able to get energy attached pretty easily for the voltorb
Plus Iono's stadium gives a free electric Energy Retrieval each turn, so you can recover at least 2 from discard each turn to be played with Bellibolt.
@@shelby142wait I just realized that, maybe I can try that for both pawmot ex & luxray ex rather than use neo upper for both of them
@12:06 couldn't we also use Archuladon ex to accelerate energy?
You're leaving a fat no-energy liability in play. It works with dialga vstar because you're stealing a turn so you'd see more cards to prepare against stalling out the archaludons
@@AtlasRega Dialga will rotate out when this set comes in, so...
@@DarkAngelEU more reason that arch is bad. The only good partner for it rotates
@@ethandavis2373 yet a pure archaludon made top 8 in Japans Champions League. and you are using scoop up and turo to get it back to hand so you can use it again, while also being able to clear any attempt to stall it in active
@pargustavsson712 but in that deck, you're accelerating to itself, not another pokemon.
Well for mammoswine you can always play luxray and klinklang but yeah the two energy gonna be a problem
It has been ages since we had some form of consistent fighting energy acceleration. Pickaxe + academy maybe? Naah that sucks.
Blaziken ex.
Probably you are playing giant tree as your ace specs or else may be neo upper energy. But without rotom and forest seal stone setting up both mammo and pidgeot turn two could be tough so giant tree probably be the choice
Garchomp ex?
@@gabrielcastillo9745pickaxe is rotating tho
Mamoswine with the stage 2s that they cheat themselves in, seem pretty powerful.
Too bad we are losing Gengar but we still have Klinkling and Luxray that can do that. Plus having Pidgeot so you are searching for two cards every turn... It might be good.
Triple Gears Klinklang would've gone hard were it not rotating out. Would've solved the energy problem.
Mamoswine ex new target for Tatsugiri ex xD
I can see the mamoswine working with an infernape or blaziken ex line. With its ability + pidgeot ex + grand tree + both pidgey and swinub’s call for family attacks it would probably be pretty easy to manage 3 stage 2 lines.
Kinda interesting how they’re bringing back buzzrock and trade zoroark, feels like early sun and moon again. Who knows, maybe we’ll get ultra beasts back in a little.
Lusamine's Pokemon being ultra beast!?
@ damn you’re onto something
Secret box discard metal energy from hand, archaludon ex ability to set up zacian fully
Crispin is the new double energy
crispin isn’t as good if you are only using 1 energy type bc it has to search out two different types
@@jacobcollins7661
it's supposed to be used for Teras duh 😂😂😂😂
@@jacobcollins7661 why people keep bringing this up, isnt it obvious that crispin is made for multi energy types deck? everybody knows that
@ oh i assumed this was in reference to Mamoswine initially, might have been wrong mb if so
I started in sun and moon and buzzroc was my favorite deck, gonna be making this hop deck for sure!!
Prize retrieval is back! I can see exchange ticket played in lots of decks. Do a prize check, if anything is missing, play Ticket, especially if you already have what else you need out of your deck.
Problem is you might prize again an important card
@Aimnoos
Thats why they need to be a 3 off. But people play a lot of one offs and they are mad about this then? What? 😂😂😂😂
@@chaosinfernoid9008 its funny
@Aimnoos I think you'll usually have searched out your other important cards before playing it. Not to say it *couldn't* screw you, but I think if you don't just play it willy nilly, it'll be an infrequent issue.
Oh, and if Pokémon are your main concern, Dusk Ball seems pretty good with it?
Man, Hop themed decks will be very OP
Exchange ticket is basically a new heavy ball if used correctly
Hop's Dubwool is like Luxray GL lv X ability. Gunna see major play if boss orders rotates
My only problem with this hops deck is that retreat cost on Snorlax looks SUS AF, either you play switches or latias and by playing latias that bench space looks a little tight, Jamming Tower gonna go brrrrrr against this deck (Zacian, 2 Metang, Snorlax, Latias) it doesnt look that there is space for a draw cards/consistency/disruptive pokemon like cleffa, budew, Fez, etc...
Hope you are feeling better Azul!
cramorant/dusknoir sounds crazy
The buzzwole lycanrock comeback
Mamoswine Tatsugiri ex time with area zero babyyyyy!! Bad deck Friday type of deck.
Buzzroc is back
Hops Snorlax is gonna be busted. Stadiums are bit tricky to set up reliably but tool should be easy.
With the Hops band on it does 200dmg for 2 colorless as a single prizer.
Maybe play with some curly wall Bouffalants and glass trumpets and should be no issue chaining and it may even tank a hit or two.
It's a decent backup attacker, especially since it'll actually do 230 with the stadium and tool in play (Snorlax's ability doesn't exclude itself). That said, the attack does 80 damage to itself, which isn't reduced by Curly Wall, so your opponent is realistically always going to KO it on their turn if they can attack (they only need to hit for 130 even with Curly Wall up), and it'll always kill itself with its second attack without healing.
Ah yeah curly wall not as good as I thought.
I was thinking a single prizer deck just force them to KO your snorlax (or Cram) 6 times while you're a decent chance of OHKOing EXs.
The 30+30dmg to the bench from Zacian could be a nice clean up job for something Snorlax can't quite OHKO
I wonder if Neo would be worth it… Colress could find that and the stadium!!
😂😂😂 I thought the same thing. The rebirth of buzzrock 😂
Straight up Buzzroc with the tools (literally Choice Band) and stadium damage boost, there is also Zoroark ex having the trade ability like Zoroark GX.
Cram went from doing 110 for free to doing 240 for free thats nuts
cannot wait for the Iono pokémon
Good things swinub is 70hp or else it could be unplayable and slow hard to setup
Zacian is gonna be crazy. I think like buzzrock we don’t use the second attack that often it’s more about crazy poke damage. Does manaphy rotate?
Isn't Arch better than Metang?
That's what I was thinking
Arch is 2 prizes and can only attach to metal pokemon, meaning you can't take advantage of snorlax as easily as a single prize attacker
problem is the deck would be dead due to Iron throrns + dragapults will still be popular after rotation. And there are no canceling cologne to save you.
@phoenixwulf6010 totally forgot about thorns, yeah metang is absolutely the way to go
Surely we're going to get a Canceling Cologne replacement...right?
1:52 Funny thing is that even if DTE was still a thing, the issue is the Meowscarada wouldn't OHKO Charizard with it :| (160x2 = 320 :|)
Archaludon with Zacian ex is going to be so busted
Could run archaludon with Zacian as well
with risk running against Thorns that will be so rampant.. since the excellent card against it is rotated. no canceling cologne will save it once matched against Iron thorns + dragapult user which probably will be increasing even more.
@@phoenixwulf6010 iron thorn already exist and very few decks are running cologne, and when they do its usually for manaphy
@phoenixwulf6010 against thorns you can just go with the single prizers tbh
@@gianlucatozzi5337 they can't even charge the energy though. Archaludon is "EX" pokemon
@phoenixwulf6010 snorlax attack with just 2 energies potentially and cramorant with 0 so it shouldn't be too difficult. Soften them with zacian first attack and finish them with snorlax & cramorant.
Archaladon sets up zacian as well
Can’t wait for a Hop’s deck with no energy! Only relying on Zacian’s first attack and Cramorant’s.
Arcaludon + tool + hand attach is his big attack, not too hard to set up, arven = ultra ball and tool? this seems like will be a decent deck\
that hops engine looks need energy engine to make it fast hit or you can play only 1 prize hit hit with cramorant
mamo with tatsu ex if u just run nothing but stage 2s
energy would be an even bigger issue then
@@justinthompson7238 not with crisp pretty easy
Lol i have to ask, do you take intro inspiration from Crimsix’s youtube days?
I hope im not wrong!
Would secret box be the best ace spec rn for hops deck?
Who knows but secret box is already good
Raging bolt/bellibolt
Secret box is busted you do that and. Zacian is hitting 330 turn 2 with archaludon
If we get a good n’s pokemon other then zoroark. We will have Zoroark back
ARCHALADON FOR ZACIAN
i want a meme deck with iono's electrode and bravery charm
Bravery Charm only works on basic Pokemon sadly, you'd need Luxurious Cape or Hero's Cape and the like
@ ah im dumb
Luxurious Cape or Hero's Cape + some kind of passive healing (e.g. Blessed Salt Garganacl...there's probably something better, though Radiant Tsareena is rotating) to hit 3 times per Electrode would be really funny. Not _good_...but funny.
Since you're living or dying by coin flips, you might as well run Wonder Kiss Togekiss too.
@@shelby142 might as well run chansey and the new prize card changer atp
archaludon ex by zacian :3
My comment got shown at the end 🥵🥵🥵
The iono deck sounds kinda broken. We still have electric generator too, so that’s more energy that can be attached to your Pokémon.
Electric decks are already broken and they're just giving them more guns to work with
the biggest issue is that the amount of energy can brick you hand, miraidon already run into that issue sometimes
@@pargustavsson712 rip Radiant Greninja ✊️😔
@@pargustavsson712 rip Radiant Greninja ✊️😔
@@DarkAngelEU Well, the Iono stuff is at least parasitic, i.e. it only works with itself.
Hop's max elixir
Exchange Ticket +1 for Dusk Ball!
or just have an ultra ball ready, so you dont have to pray for a combo of cards
@@pargustavsson712 I mean, if you run enough Pokémon or thin the rest of your deck enough, Dusk Ball isn't bad on its own. With Exchange Ticket and things like Iono giving you some knowledge about what's on the bottom of your deck...could be worth it.
Mammoswine EX decks would probably benefit from it
Hop cards are outright stupid.
Stupid as him and i love it. Take this Loli Downtaker 😂😂😂