Norman Parker The description was actually changed after this video (see other comments talking about it) Other ads still say 250. It's also not even 160 amps. It's probably not even 125.
The welder welds well. You can also get it to tig. Does what it should . Small , light good looking. But you cant recomend it because it might pack up ?
Well I just looked, 98.90 for the machine. Delivery? Oh that's a cool 100.99 to the UK. I think I'll pass if its all the same to you. By the time I've put import duty and VAT on top, I'm too close to 300 for comfort.
I actually used a similar arc welder to rebuild a steel sailboat in the caribbean off of a generator while sitting in the water. One thing I can say, is it fits in your luggage, burns 3/32 great, and it works with the amperage turned way up. It was perfect for what we needed it for.
All we really need is a drill, some duct tape, copper pipe, and a hammer. We'll just turn it in to an induction cooler and pull that keg through it one beer at a time.
It seems to be pretty good for the money. It would be great for light duty / hobby use. I was quite impressed that it didn't go up in smoke during your 12 burnt rod test in a very hot room. Definitely a thumbs up from me. Thank you for the video!
To someone like you it may be novel and not work for long, but to the DIY person that just needs to do a quick light weld, without a lot of room in their garage it would be perfect!
Yeah, for $100 and no more than I would use it that little welder is just right. I don't weld anything that I need more than 125 amps anyway. You can weld thick steel with that if you do some beveling and pre-heat and prep.
Yep that’s why I got one. I had NO idea they were so small before seeing them on the shelf 😂 it wasn’t $98 but it wasn’t $980 either. Works great and it’s a WELDER that takes up about as much space in the toolbox as a good soldering station
@@TheLexiconDevils you can make your own with 2 power supplies from a micro wave oven and some heavy wire to replace the coils. These welders are really simple, best part, confined spacers,, up on the roof or ladder. Too easy. Sling it over shoulder and away you go. I used one to build a 20ft trailor, magic to get overhead or underneath. Don't even get tired carrying it around.
El Nigel I'm sure I'm only 5% of what he know in knowledge and practice but I dont have to be a pro to see a person with bias review ... a novelty was in his mind from the get go. Again why he did not show the weld or test the quality of the weld ... was it good enough.... will never know.
You're right. He has one of the smallest welders I've ever seen. And he made sure we knew how big his hands are. My guess is he drives a monster truck too. Yes, I'd say he has a very, very small welder indeed.
Seen even slightly smaller one at store. Was realistically rated 130amps and came complete with leads (really short),plug and warranty for price equal to near 50$. I'd say it can be really good for someone that has no welder at all and needs to fix a fence or something like that.
Никита Надеин his review was not fair , actually he had his mind made up before he decided to make this video. I think it works just fine for thin metal. I wouldn't be surprised if it works with a 220 car power inverter too.
My Dad's old stick welder was plug n play to change settings. Before that it was a forge, hammer, anvil, and tongs (that he made himself). A little machine like that would have been a miracle in those days. We're very spoiled.
Due to it being so very small I could see having that as an emergency backup rig that doesn't take up a lot of space. Just as long as you didn't need to weld anything very thick. I'd also like to see some kind of exact current reading taken externally via a clamp meter or something. I'm really surprised that you had to give up before the machine did. that type of result on the stress test is actually pretty impressive. Obviously it's not a serious machine for a professional but I like it. I'm no welder though.
I could see this being super useful in my line of work. We do a lot of breakdown work on coal wash plants and draglines. A lot of the repairs are to guards and handrails that have cracked from vibration. I’d rather have one of these in my tool bag than carry my tools and another case with a larger caddy welder. Our welders don’t last very long anyway with all the water and dust so the company buys el-cheapo machines for us so I’d happily give one of these a go.
The Fabrication Series we’ve looked into them, but they’re a lot bigger than most caddys on the local market, and they didn’t last long enough to justify the massive cost of them.
ItsDicko Well in your case it sounds like this machine would be ideal. You probably have good leads and just need the proper plug. I would suggest doing some tests yourself as to the quality of the welds. particularly for handrails, but it would definitely save you and your body from lugging around a heavy welder.
Welding Junkie yeah but I’m interested in it’s construction, do you get a switch mode power supply or a big transformer. Does it have decent protection circuitry or will it burn your house down as it overheats? Where did they cheap out on the board and components. For the price it might even make a decent power supply if you can hack it a little to adjust the voltage. Yeah it’s a piece of crap that won’t weld properly, but for its size and form factor it could have may potential uses, or at least be a better alternative than winding MOTs to do stick welding, provided that it’s safe.
I got one of those about a year ago ...been burning rods with it like crazy ever since ! It's even taken a 20 foot fall and the amp knob flew off somewhere but it still works lol !!!
I have a stick welder the size of a shoe box (smaller than your mini welder). I've had it for 20 years, paid £10 for it at a car boot sale, and it is the best stick welder I've worked with so far. I've taken it to motorcycle rallies, even welded up a broken cargo rack on someone's bike once. I've taken it to motorcycle rallies, even welded up a broken cargo rack on someone's bike once. Damn useful as a portable emergency carry with you welder. No internal amperage control, just a big external resistor spring with a plug in jumper U shaped rod. Great for welding tin cans together with a micro arc when alone without the need for a friend to operate the amperage control wheel if using a conventional full size welder. Pretty much start the arc on the thick starting plate and pull the jumper whilst steadily carrying the now micro arc over to the thin sheet metal. (I had a professional maritime welder demonstrate the trick by welding two tin cans open end to open end (without blowing a hole!!) whilst I operated the amperage control wheel on his stick welder way back in the early 1980's).
See what the thinnest metal you can weld with it is, looks like you can turn the power down really low. It might arc weld less than 1mm metal, it could be useful if it works.
I'm sure this would be a great welder for someone that does like hobby rc rock crawler chassis and all kinds of other low amp projects. The 1/2 amp dial might even work to someone's advantage.
I use this welder, it has 125 Amps max, shows the double on digital readout. But, for a 125 Amp welder, it is the best I ever had, the arc force regulation in it is absolutely top notch. For the all day use, it is just the best for the buck you can get. Only issue I had, the internal low Voltage power supply blew away after just 6 month of use, So, keep it as a lovely gadget you use some times. I just bought my second one a few days ago, just for fun
I travelled to a job welding a trailer frame completely empty handed once on the promise of them having an arc welder on site,arrived to find what looked like like not much more than a battery charger of similar size to this thing which would weld for about two minutes before thermally tripping for five minutes,it wasn't frustrating!
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AMAZING space saver! This is Ideal if one likes to travel and Baja and your in the middle of knowwhere using generator or inverter power. It'll get the job done and you can transport it in a fanny pack!! SICK!
I spent $200 for one that does 110 amps and that was 20 years ago. Still works to this day. Best $200 I ever spent. Unless you count that one trip to Reno.
It would probably work better with 6013 rods as the open circuit voltage is rather low. Could be a useful bit of kit to keep on a service vehicle. I keep a little Italian machine that I purchased back in the mid to late 90's that is almost as small but only claims to run to 95 amps it does not have a meter on it but as I tend to drive a welder by feel that is of no import at all, I did check with a clamp meter and it tops out at 110 amps not the 95 claimed.
What brought me to your channel is I am looking for something like this for my model building. So while not useful for the serious welder it appears to be a perfect fit for someone like me...;) Thanks for the review!
I have a Klutch ST80I (Northern Tool store brand) welder that is very similar to this except it actually works. I definitely stand behind it. Its inverter style, runs off of 110vac, only runs up to 75-80A but being inverter based it is more efficient than a transformer style welder and works well for most common applications. I also hooked up a power block and a valve style tig torch to it for a scratch start setup and it works flawlessly, featureless but flawless. I recommend them for a cheap, effective, very portable little welder.
at 98 dollars it should be a must "give" present to every guy/gal you know...hey honey we're going to the Andersons for dinner should we bring flowers, wine or a welder?... hey honey your nephew turning 12 what should we give him?... hey Mike from accounting going through a divorce you wanna pitch in for a cheer him up basket or give him this welder?...
Have it there ready with some cheap cables and when a neighbor or friend wants to barrow your welder, this is the one you want to lend. I have a couple of Hobart machines (Stick Inverter and a MIG) and those I don’t lend. Instead, I do the welding for free. Thanks for the review and take care Justin.
I would like to see you run some more sticks with a clamp meter measuring the amperage. also kind of curious to see the inside of it, especially after the torture test to see if any of the components look heat stressed or under rated.
I bought a 110/220 Hitbox arc welder just for shitz and giggles and was half impressed. It isn't something I would trust to use every day but it's a good little "rescue welder". Easy to pack and run off of the inverter in my truck. I can drive it anywhere on the ranch for a get the tractor home repair and always bring it on off road search and rescue call.
Amazed it cost you so much, I’ve just bought one for a third of that price! 😳 As such, I’m hoping the current anomaly isn’t standard, but I don’t do a lot of welding anyway, so I’m sure she’ll do what I need either way 😊 Great review though. Thanks.
I have the same machine , same low power problem until.......switch the rod polarity and its a whole new machine. I don't know if there marked wrong or if it has some funky output, but it will chew 1/8 rods and run larger no problems. If you still have it its worth a try.
LOL, Those eBay purchased turbos are no longer a good comparison. I remember when they would literally split is two, now I've seen some decent success stories from them. Good video either way.
Man, things have come a long way! They now sell a similar welder for $84, with the same beautiful case and an arc force adjustment, amperage adjustment, a copper ground clamp, 120v/220v plug adapters on the power cord.
The thing that makes this useless compared to the slightly larger SMAW welders is that this uses the high voltage plug while like the Harbor freight mini welders use a standard household 115/120V wall outlet. And it is actually more expensive than the Harbor Freight one, despite both being chinese.
Makes me wonder how he came to his conclusion. Something doesn't add up in the video. How does he know the current? How come it was fine with sticks and not good with tig? Surely the same? Personally I think he fried the circuit doing the stick test and once he went to tig the machine was already fried - shame he doesn't actually tell us more. For me I'm not subscribing. The channel is full of inaccuracies.
The way I understand it, there's a difference between duty cycle and thermal cut-out. Duty cycle is the mfgr suggestion so you don't eventually burn out the machine. SOME welders have a thermal cut out in case you forget about the duty cycle.
You haven't heard of the Power Weld, invented by Andrade. It was patented year 2000. It is smaller than that, and it is 2018 now, you should check it out
Hey man just watched this video and realised what the issue is straight away, your running it at half volts being that your in the states 120v mains so amps need to be double to compensate, here in aus being 240v mains the amps would read a little low because the machine is rated for 220v input. Nothing wrong with the machine but you will kill it running it at half it’s required volts like trying to run an 18v drill with a 9v battery
@@TheFabricatorSeries this guy is right.. that is your problem. In the states we have 2 hot legs that are 180 degrees out of phase. Each leg is 120 volts. When we combine this we say 240 but it really isn't. Over in China, my understanding, is the hot leg truly is 220 volts. Not two 110s put together. I hope I've explained this well enough.
You should know that typically welder machines that has 250 in its name actually can achieve barely 180 Amps (160 is most common case). It's because its schematics was designed by some engineers who can fix it easily and was able to tune it up to 250 Amps (using expensive electronic components and fine tuning). But in mass production they don't use expensive components (or even they don't use all needed components) and therefore machines must be tuned down a little to reliability improvement.
Just bought a 225 amp welder like this one. Having the same 1/2 amp trouble. Have it running on 240 volts like its supposed to. It checked out at half amps with a clamp on meter on 1 lead while welding. Works great and even has arc force setting which increases the amps when you hold a tight arc length and helps to keep rods from sticking. Has built in hot start too. I was very disappointed on the amperage, but when you start welding with it and it works very smooth. I have asked the seller to look into it and if I find out anything I will post it on here. I want to get to the bottom of false advertising or the technical reason why it half amps. By the way I paid $43 for it including shipping from a warehouse in the USA.
Have a similar "toaster" welder from another Chinese manufacturer. Amp output readings make perfect sense. Here in the US our grid is 2 phase L1/L2/G for 240V (L1/L2 each being 120V if connected L/N) or to updated code L1/L2/N/G. This buzz box was designed for overseas grid L/N/G for 220V +-15%. N should have same potential as G. The way you wired the 6-50P plug, L1 to one blade L2 to one blade and G to G, the welder is only seeing 120V and thus your readout is double what it is actually producing as it is running on half the volts. Works on our 2 phase grid but designed for single phase 220...so only works at half value. Try 120V plug and you will get the same results L1/N/G. Also be much safer this way! Only way to get full power would be to use a step-up transformer 120V to 220/240V. Adding cost and size of transformer makes this a GREAT field/truck 120V repair welder. Throw and go. Don't expect great shop performance...as we all saw.
What you're interpreting to be amps is more likely "power" or percentage of output capability expressed in decimal from an 8 bit encoded value (256). The actual upper and lower bound are probably mechanically limited or are interpreted from a poorly calibrated analog potentiometer - 254 was shown in this video.
Mr. Holmes you've gone way too far with that. They sell it like 250A welding machine. 4:58 even on the seller's page at AliExpress there're pictures of the machine with rubbed off sticker.
It's 40-60% duty cycle... Thus, it's 120 amps (constant), at 240 amps, at half-duty. It gains amps by doubling the voltage, which requires half the cycle of the power phase. The purpose is for smaller rods and more controls. Where the RAW power welders you are using, are for heavy duty, raw welding. I know it sounds misleading, but it is actually 240 amps, at half duty. If you pulsed your other welders at half-duty, the average would be the same. However, the pulses that manual raw welders use is 60-Hz to 240-Hz. These digital controlled welders run at cycles that are much higher. Thus, you have a high amp pulse, for longer, with a slower duty cycle pulse, enough to get it started on a burn, but not enough to continue to burn through the metal, on your machines. On this tiny machine, working with thinner rods and thinner metal, you will have the same results, where your raw welders would just blow holes in everything that this little welder can work easily with. It's about having the right tool for the right job. If you want to TIG aluminum foil, circuit-board contacts, jewelry-boxes and jewelry, you use the mini-welder. If you want to TIG a car, boat, or airplane, you use your TIG welders. If you want to TIG a tank, you use an industrial 480volt or 720volt TIG welding machine. So those same 240-amps result in higher watts. That is also why 100 amps on 110v is only half as powerful as 100 amps on 220v, because its "Watts", not "amps", that welds. 100a x 110v = 11000 watts. 100a x 220v = 22000 watts. (But these machines don't RUN on 110v and 220v, they are more like 10v and 20v, so the amps at the wall are 10a and 20a, respectively and the output is 100a x 10v = 1000 watts and 100a x 20v = 2000 watts, out of your welder.) Amps are irrelevant, unless the voltages are exactly the same. That's why you should be measuring "wattage", of the output, not at the wall. (Comparing wattage out, to wattage at the wall, tells you how efficient or inefficient a welder is. Just for the record, the mini welder is 40-60% more efficient than the larger raw welders, with the outputs being equal. EG, you save 40-60% in your electric bill... More, since raw welders draw power when idle and digital welders do not.)
I had one that was smaller in height (square from the front) slightly longer in length. I was an Italian Rossi. Stick / Tig. Welded amazingly even wet rod started & welded smooth as silk. Lent it to a friend … never got it back.
Well.... Let us face it..Does it work...Mmmmmm.....Yeahhh!!! good product, mmmmeeeehhh but if you consider that you are a welder and that is what you do for a living....It will do an awesome Key Chain!! you can use it a s a personal conversation piece as you make the mention... and yes like ducks don't swim well, don't fly well, don't walk well or snorkel well... but it actually does it!
I suspect what has actually happened with the display is the manufacturer is converting the potentiometer reading to an 8 bit value (0-255) which then gets displayed. This has the added value that they can then advertise a "more powerful unit"
I just got one of these labeled under the Minleaf name. Cirious about the display accuracy, I held a DC ammeter alongside one of the cables while Dad operated it. At 100, it gave a stuck-rod short 100A for a couple seconds before the current dropped to under 50A. Raising it to 150, we got 150A for a couple seconds again. Raising again to 250, we still got 150A shorted. Meanwhile, actual welding at 100 was reading (I think) under 50A while welding at 150 was reading under 100A. All of this was with a 3/32" rod. We didn't try any of this with 1/8" or bigger yet, it's cold out there ;) (wish we had a heated shop). More welding practice will come in the spring when Minnesota warms up again.
Exactly, and they always piss on the little guys toys. We are not building skyscrapers out back in the tool shed. These hobbyist machines are awesome for the price and in most cases the application. I'm building artwork, go carts, and bicycles these machines do the job everytime.
I dont build skyscrapers either. I never have. But a piece of junk is a piece of junk. If I see no value in it for even a hobbyist (which I once was), I'm gonna say it. It's really a piece of junk.
These things are normally used by a fitter because they are easy to carry around. They are used for tacking and really not used for a full blown weld. Miller and Lincoln have similar products but you hardly ever see anybody using these little nifty machines.
If youre a maintenance mechanic it's probably small enough to have on a tool cart as you go work around a shop just with some small 7018 rods (less spatter) and you can use it occasionally to help with simple welding needs and repairs? Im an industrial maintenance technician and i think itd be cool for some things maybe?
I saw guy assemble entire deck with roof and everything for caffe near building I lived. He had only grinder and this tiny welder and tube steel was quite big. I asked him about it and he told me it's usable and best thing for him is he can bring all tools with him on bicycle.
i have a older L175 mig but i am a full time RVer and i was on the road and got stuck needing this . my unit is way to big but some thing like this small that i can hid in a bay could really work
Honestly, when you said it goes to 250A, My first thought was "there's no way that little thing does 250A". The question remains however; How would you rate it if the display was actually accurate? Let's say the display maxed out at 125A, would you rate it as a reasonably decent welder for that amperage?
It has nothing to do with duty cycle. Duty cycle is how long you can run it at a specific load before you need to cool it down for a specific time. This machine doesn't reach the rated output, it only goes to about half. That is either blatantly misleading advertising or bad design..... maybe both.
That was exactly what I was thinking. Pretty much the rest of the world is 240V and there aren't even non-Asian instructions, so yeah, probably expecting 240V.
Wow dude I’m impressed! That little thing puts out 253hamps of pure welding fury! That’s about 125amps of regular welding power, the inferior to the very much superior hamp measured power.
Got one looks same as this one but rated at 160 amps have run it through ammeter using a shunt amps not far off about 10% low approx . Find it welds really well loads better than machine mart buzz box not exceeded duty cycle yet never seems to get very warm .Unlike old buzz box 2 or 3 rods and it cuts out ! not as good as big welding plant at work but very impressed with it
Well, you obviously have forgotten this is a DC inverter welder. DC inverter welders produce stable and deeper welding with much less ampers. That means instead of 100A on old welders, you would use 50A on DC inverter. Display will still show 100A because in the rod instruction you would have written those numbers. Those little inverters work great and for many, many years, as I know from the experience, but nobody planned to use them for TIG. So, quite bad review.
I m sure you are probably rite about the amperage. But give credit where credit is due . For the occasional or hobby welder it works exceptionally well. I've owned it now for over a year with no problems at all. It's cute, it's quite, it's cheap, it's energy efficient, and it gets the job done. It's highly portable, It even broke you down, lol. It got me too! I went thru about 3 lbs of rods before I gave up. It's usefulness Probably extends to sheet metal, exhaust pipe, maybe even hand rails in a multi-story building (portable) All in all where else can you buy a $100 welder (mine $88) that works at all. Even Batteries cost more than that. You bragged about being honest about review, which was everything but. The only problem I watched you have with it was doing something it wasn't designed or advertise to do. even that said I watch your videos because I hotrod and real hotrodding is about scrounging ,building, and buying cheap to go fast. Because anybody with deep pockets can go fast. I like to brag about how fast I went ,cheap. Thanks
You can drill a hole with a $150 Makita drill or with a $20 crappo drill. Take your pick, it’s your choice. But in a few yrs time, which one will still be drilling holes! Buy once, cry once.
S. White If I lived in the Philippines ... The average person makes 200 pesos per day. To feed their families plus other expenses. $100.00 dollars = 5.000 pesos My personal system was $3.500.00 plus. 1,865,500.00 Philippine Peso @ today's marker Most 3rd word country does average 200.00 their money per day $4.00 per day .... that will be 25 days of 100% savings plus shipping plus material .... I'll say about 50 days to have a novelty. Any questions? THIS VIDEO IS NOT EXCLUSIVE TO THE USA VIEWER. UA-cam is view worldwide in exception to China and some other countries where American ideology is sensor.
Well, I have been sitting in front of my computer for 2.5 hours now; would you please make a bad video so I can stop. LOL Your Series is the absolute Best. video quality and content are top notch. I take everything you say as correct, because I'm just a hobbyist, so don't screw up. haha. You are easy to listen to and watch , so don't change anything. Thank You Rick thumbs up
Great video, but I'll only say you need to plug it to a 240-110 transformer to make it work, looks like it is made in Hong Kong, they use 240v standards there and US is 110v . I think that's where you get the half amp problem
This right here. American 240 volt is not the same as Chinese 240. Our 240 is actually two 120 together but they are out of phase white each other. Over there and europe too they truly have 220 coming out of one hot leg.
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12 electrodes and it carried on so it does weld and does what it says.
It actually doesn't do what it says haha. That's the problem. 12 electrodes at an unknown amount of amps with an unknown amount of duty cycle means you'll never know what it will actually do. The amount of rods is actually irrelevant since just about any machine will burn without exceeding its duty cycle if you weld way below it.
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If you still have the welds cut them and see how far they penetrated then will know if it can weld.
12 3/32 even in an industrial setting that's good. I'm not sure what people are expecting. Most people are not building 1000 psi vessels or skyscrapers in there garages or small shops unless I'm missing something.
i like your video, w the lunch box welder. something i didn't hear u mention. Adding the additional leads, plus the jumper cable attachment. Creates amperage drop. For what the unit cost, i was impressed. though
Bought a similar one. But a a little bit bigger , Onex brand 250 amps declaration , has no screen that shows the amps btw. And I don't really care if it only goes to 125. It burns the metal away on max output . And it welds like a champ.
Mr. greens boat tanks and aluminium welding its chinglish .... its expected to fail at advertising like anything coming from China. But it works ... I'm getting one for sure.
Mine "Zohan" have 160A max. on information plate (even it show 253 units of "something" ) , burns well 2,5mm sticks . Current setting seems to be not linear , 210 units works well with 2,5mm stick , 253 quickly making hole in 5mm cold rolled steel and blows 2,5mm stick . Zohan is plugged to 230VAC . Probably will be limited on 120VAC (it was designed to china market voltage - 220V )
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Should've tried reading the description it's not 250 is 160
Norman Parker The description was actually changed after this video (see other comments talking about it) Other ads still say 250. It's also not even 160 amps. It's probably not even 125.
The welder welds well.
You can also get it to tig.
Does what it should .
Small , light good looking.
But you cant recomend it because it might pack up ?
Mind Freshener It was running on 220v, not 110. It's a 220v machine.
Well I just looked, 98.90 for the machine. Delivery? Oh that's a cool 100.99 to the UK.
I think I'll pass if its all the same to you. By the time I've put import duty and VAT on top, I'm too close to 300 for comfort.
I actually used a similar arc welder to rebuild a steel sailboat in the caribbean off of a generator while sitting in the water. One thing I can say, is it fits in your luggage, burns 3/32 great, and it works with the amperage turned way up. It was perfect for what we needed it for.
This is what I'm saying!
The half current thing seems common with these. I wish they'd just rate it as what it is. It still has use as a 100A welder.
Would love for you to tear one apart! They seem great, but i agree on the current thing. The companies are just trying to outdo themselves
It even can TIG. And yes, all of these use 1/2A as unit. I see this and similar others as a good deal for the hobbyst.
Agree. Works great on sheet metal. Wasn't meant to be a shop welder. Good for around the house/hobbyists stuff.
Good to keep in my truck. Gotten myself out of a bind before with that and a generator. So it has uses; not every welds day in and day out.
chinese amps, to get real divide by 2 or 3
A mini fridge won't hold a keg but you can still get a cold beer out of it!😁
Dam that statement is legit.
right!!
@Dirt Nap307 you can definitely fit a keg in a mini fridge. You just have to modify it.
All we really need is a drill, some duct tape, copper pipe, and a hammer.
We'll just turn it in to an induction cooler and pull that keg through it one beer at a time.
It seems to be pretty good for the money. It would be great for light duty / hobby use. I was quite impressed that it didn't go up in smoke during your 12 burnt rod test in a very hot room. Definitely a thumbs up from me. Thank you for the video!
To someone like you it may be novel and not work for long, but to the DIY person that just needs to do a quick light weld, without a lot of room in their garage it would be perfect!
Yeah, for $100 and no more than I would use it that little welder is just right. I don't weld anything that I need more than 125 amps anyway. You can weld thick steel with that if you do some beveling and pre-heat and prep.
It's exactly what I need! I'm about to embark on learning to Tig and I'd rather not spend $1000 just to learn.
works perfectly for me, gets a brief usage maybe once every couple of months...
Yep that’s why I got one. I had NO idea they were so small before seeing them on the shelf 😂 it wasn’t $98 but it wasn’t $980 either. Works great and it’s a WELDER that takes up about as much space in the toolbox as a good soldering station
@@TheLexiconDevils you can make your own with 2 power supplies from a micro wave oven and some heavy wire to replace the coils.
These welders are really simple, best part, confined spacers,, up on the roof or ladder. Too easy. Sling it over shoulder and away you go.
I used one to build a 20ft trailor, magic to get overhead or underneath. Don't even get tired carrying it around.
I’ve got one similar in my repair van, it takes up so little space and weight but it welds brilliantly.
From Dominican Republic, I'm going to the welding school and u can say that you have help me more than my school for sure. Thank you!
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I really think he was an ass.
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I'm sure I'm only 5% of what he know in knowledge and practice but I dont have to be a pro to see a person with bias review ... a novelty was in his mind from the get go. Again why he did not show the weld or test the quality of the weld ... was it good enough.... will never know.
You know what they say about a guy with a big phone and big hands don't ya? He has a tiny welder.
--cLAsic-- Quick wit. That was good.
Hahaa, it's about weld penetration, don't know if that one will do it....
lol low amperage.
Remember it's not the size of the fabricators welder, but how he lays a bead with all the amperage he's got.
You're right. He has one of the smallest welders I've ever seen. And he made sure we knew how big his hands are. My guess is he drives a monster truck too. Yes, I'd say he has a very, very small welder indeed.
Seen even slightly smaller one at store. Was realistically rated 130amps and came complete with leads (really short),plug and warranty for price equal to near 50$.
I'd say it can be really good for someone that has no welder at all and needs to fix a fence or something like that.
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his review was not fair , actually he had his mind made up before he decided to make this video.
I think it works just fine for thin metal. I wouldn't be surprised if it works with a 220 car power inverter too.
What store?? You have a name of it?
My Dad's old stick welder was plug n play to change settings. Before that it was a forge, hammer, anvil, and tongs (that he made himself). A little machine like that would have been a miracle in those days. We're very spoiled.
Due to it being so very small I could see having that as an emergency backup rig that doesn't take up a lot of space. Just as long as you didn't need to weld anything very thick. I'd also like to see some kind of exact current reading taken externally via a clamp meter or something. I'm really surprised that you had to give up before the machine did. that type of result on the stress test is actually pretty impressive.
Obviously it's not a serious machine for a professional but I like it. I'm no welder though.
I could see this being super useful in my line of work. We do a lot of breakdown work on coal wash plants and draglines. A lot of the repairs are to guards and handrails that have cracked from vibration. I’d rather have one of these in my tool bag than carry my tools and another case with a larger caddy welder. Our welders don’t last very long anyway with all the water and dust so the company buys el-cheapo machines for us so I’d happily give one of these a go.
ItsDicko Look into the Fronius Accupocket. It's perfect for just that type of work including the dust and water. Mine goes with me everywhere.
The Fabrication Series we’ve looked into them, but they’re a lot bigger than most caddys on the local market, and they didn’t last long enough to justify the massive cost of them.
ItsDicko Well in your case it sounds like this machine would be ideal. You probably have good leads and just need the proper plug. I would suggest doing some tests yourself as to the quality of the welds. particularly for handrails, but it would definitely save you and your body from lugging around a heavy welder.
@@TheFabricatorSeries Sweet Jesus, those are about $3000 list. Hardly comparable. You must be doing well off your UA-cam advertising bucks. :- )
@@insulglass lmao, you could trashed 30 of this little things and it will weld so much more sticks than accupocket with its 17 minutes continuous use
Send it to someone like AVE, to tear it apart and look at its guts!
Jack Eagan I think we can all tell the quality lol
Welding Junkie yeah but I’m interested in it’s construction, do you get a switch mode power supply or a big transformer. Does it have decent protection circuitry or will it burn your house down as it overheats? Where did they cheap out on the board and components. For the price it might even make a decent power supply if you can hack it a little to adjust the voltage. Yeah it’s a piece of crap that won’t weld properly, but for its size and form factor it could have may potential uses, or at least be a better alternative than winding MOTs to do stick welding, provided that it’s safe.
THIS
I second that. Ave can see what it is actually putting out and maybe why
Reno Simpson they both are cool, but Clive would do it better.
That is the cutest fire hazard I have ever seen!!!!
Cryingggggg 😂😂😂😂
Cool comment! The operator burned out before it did though, even under a sweltering day! Just sayin,
if you had to take your welder, climb a tower, plug in up there and weld something, you might grab this welder.
I got one of those about a year ago ...been burning rods with it like crazy ever since ! It's even taken a 20 foot fall and the amp knob flew off somewhere but it still works lol !!!
Reminds me of the old equalizer/amplifier for our car stereos back in the 80's
400 watts quadrophonic by Pyramid!
I have a stick welder the size of a shoe box (smaller than your mini welder). I've had it for 20 years, paid £10 for it at a car boot sale, and it is the best stick welder I've worked with so far. I've taken it to motorcycle rallies, even welded up a broken cargo rack on someone's bike once.
I've taken it to motorcycle rallies, even welded up a broken cargo rack on someone's bike once. Damn useful as a portable emergency carry with you welder.
No internal amperage control, just a big external resistor spring with a plug in jumper U shaped rod. Great for welding tin cans together with a micro arc when alone without the need for a friend to operate the amperage control wheel if using a conventional full size welder. Pretty much start the arc on the thick starting plate and pull the jumper whilst steadily carrying the now micro arc over to the thin sheet metal. (I had a professional maritime welder demonstrate the trick by welding two tin cans open end to open end (without blowing a hole!!) whilst I operated the amperage control wheel on his stick welder way back in the early 1980's).
See what the thinnest metal you can weld with it is, looks like you can turn the power down really low. It might arc weld less than 1mm metal, it could be useful if it works.
Oliver Taylor true
i`m welding with 18amp 1.3 and 1.6 all day.
that will be interesting to see.
I'm sure this would be a great welder for someone that does like hobby rc rock crawler chassis and all kinds of other low amp projects. The 1/2 amp dial might even work to someone's advantage.
@@DanielCardei Thats on regular steel, isnt it?
@@henryrollins9177 yep
I use this welder, it has 125 Amps max, shows the double on digital readout. But, for a 125 Amp welder, it is the best I ever had, the arc force regulation in it is absolutely top notch. For the all day use, it is just the best for the buck you can get. Only issue I had, the internal low Voltage power supply blew away after just 6 month of use, So, keep it as a lovely gadget you use some times. I just bought my second one a few days ago, just for fun
There is a valid use-case for this, for those of us with small shops but need a welder.
I travelled to a job welding a trailer frame completely empty handed once on the promise of them having an arc welder on site,arrived to find what looked like like not much more than a battery charger of similar size to this thing which would weld for about two minutes before thermally tripping for five minutes,it wasn't frustrating!
220 Vols needed :) And the Battery Clamp , there is no way this many amps will go trough .... Hook it up again ! Dont give up ! :) Dankeschoen !
First time viewer: subbed because there was no bs, no theatrics or drama and no "f" bombs. I'm not new to life or welding, just like to see new & potentially "interesting" things on you tube. Have a great day.
AMAZING space saver! This is Ideal if one likes to travel and Baja and your in the middle of knowwhere using generator or inverter power. It'll get the job done and you can transport it in a fanny pack!! SICK!
Exactly what i was thinking as well as those odd jobs at home
I keep one in my Jeep. Works great. Not what you'd use in a shop all day but broke down on the trail in the middle of nowhere....
Where do you get 240v broken down in the middle of nowhere ?
@@gurjindersingh199 dual battery set up. Instructions are in the box.
125 Amps for 99 bucks sounds like a good deal to me. It reminds me of the 3000w stereo amplifiers and 6000w speakers. Marketing takes over often.
Amps and speakers you had to read the fine print, they show the peak to peak output, which is more than double the RMS...
I spent $200 for one that does 110 amps and that was 20 years ago. Still works to this day. Best $200 I ever spent. Unless you count that one trip to Reno.
@@MrRatkilr I bought a Maxstar 150 back in the day, just under $1000, made that money back first weekend I owned it at the race track...
and the 10000mAh 18650 batteries that perfectly drive the 6000W stereos:)
I got one ,edon brand from china,same size but shoots out 350Amps, I used edon for years they are the best.
I paid maybe equivalent of 50 for it.
Thanks again for the creative hook up and thorough demo!!!!
It would probably work better with 6013 rods as the open circuit voltage is rather low. Could be a useful bit of kit to keep on a service vehicle. I keep a little Italian machine that I purchased back in the mid to late 90's that is almost as small but only claims to run to 95 amps it does not have a meter on it but as I tend to drive a welder by feel that is of no import at all, I did check with a clamp meter and it tops out at 110 amps not the 95 claimed.
What brought me to your channel is I am looking for something like this for my model building. So while not useful for the serious welder it appears to be a perfect fit for someone like me...;) Thanks for the review!
Just enough for home service repair gates and some repair steel stuff. Cheap light and good to travel for home service
I have a Klutch ST80I (Northern Tool store brand) welder that is very similar to this except it actually works. I definitely stand behind it. Its inverter style, runs off of 110vac, only runs up to 75-80A but being inverter based it is more efficient than a transformer style welder and works well for most common applications. I also hooked up a power block and a valve style tig torch to it for a scratch start setup and it works flawlessly, featureless but flawless. I recommend them for a cheap, effective, very portable little welder.
at 98 dollars it should be a must "give" present to every guy/gal you know...hey honey we're going to the Andersons for dinner should we bring flowers, wine or a welder?... hey honey your nephew turning 12 what should we give him?... hey Mike from accounting going through a divorce you wanna pitch in for a cheer him up basket or give him this welder?...
iPANZERSCHRECKu Fantastic idea
100$ gifs? You guys are generous! We become squimish at anything over 25$.
If it all goes wrong in any of the situations they can always fill up the tub plug it in and weld that pesky leaking pipe and end everyone's problems!
Have it there ready with some cheap cables and when a neighbor or friend wants to barrow your welder, this is the one you want to lend. I have a couple of Hobart machines (Stick Inverter and a MIG) and those I don’t lend. Instead, I do the welding for free. Thanks for the review and take care Justin.
I would like to see you run some more sticks with a clamp meter measuring the amperage. also kind of curious to see the inside of it, especially after the torture test to see if any of the components look heat stressed or under rated.
I bought a 110/220 Hitbox arc welder just for shitz and giggles and was half impressed. It isn't something I would trust to use every day but it's a good little "rescue welder". Easy to pack and run off of the inverter in my truck. I can drive it anywhere on the ranch for a get the tractor home repair and always bring it on off road search and rescue call.
Amazed it cost you so much, I’ve just bought one for a third of that price! 😳 As such, I’m hoping the current anomaly isn’t standard, but I don’t do a lot of welding anyway, so I’m sure she’ll do what I need either way 😊 Great review though. Thanks.
I have the same machine , same low power problem until.......switch the rod polarity and its a whole new machine. I don't know if there marked wrong or if
it has some funky output, but it will chew 1/8 rods and run larger no problems. If you still have it its worth a try.
Swarfman64 what do you mean switch the rod polarity exactly?
LOL, Those eBay purchased turbos are no longer a good comparison. I remember when they would literally split is two, now I've seen some decent success stories from them. Good video either way.
Man, things have come a long way! They now sell a similar welder for $84, with the same beautiful case and an arc force adjustment, amperage adjustment, a copper ground clamp, 120v/220v plug adapters on the power cord.
It's just pocket stick welder for small repairs. But it's cute! :D
The thing that makes this useless compared to the slightly larger SMAW welders is that this uses the high voltage plug while like the Harbor freight mini welders use a standard household 115/120V wall outlet. And it is actually more expensive than the Harbor Freight one, despite both being chinese.
You are my new Sensei! I now must go back for all the older vids.
could you put a clamp meter on the output lead and measure how much it's *actually putting out?
Merlin Zener my thoughts exactly.
I was thinking the same. Id rather see hard evidence of what exactly it is putting out than a guesstimate.
Merlin Zener, Yep, inductive amp meter (amp clamp) would tell the tale exactly, I’m kinda surprised he didn’t do that in the video...
Makes me wonder how he came to his conclusion. Something doesn't add up in the video. How does he know the current? How come it was fine with sticks and not good with tig? Surely the same?
Personally I think he fried the circuit doing the stick test and once he went to tig the machine was already fried - shame he doesn't actually tell us more.
For me I'm not subscribing. The channel is full of inaccuracies.
Every video ive watched ive never seen any body put an amp clamp on the welding lead
The way I understand it, there's a difference between duty cycle and thermal cut-out. Duty cycle is the mfgr suggestion so you don't eventually burn out the machine. SOME welders have a thermal cut out in case you forget about the duty cycle.
Well, here's your problem. Those were METRIC amps! ;-)
Amps, volts, and watts are METRIC units of measure. Always have been.
@@kooldoozer it was a joke.
r/woooosh
Right. Very funny
@@kooldoozer r/overyourhead
You haven't heard of the Power Weld, invented by Andrade. It was patented year 2000. It is smaller than that, and it is 2018 now, you should check it out
Hey man just watched this video and realised what the issue is straight away, your running it at half volts being that your in the states 120v mains so amps need to be double to compensate, here in aus being 240v mains the amps would read a little low because the machine is rated for 220v input.
Nothing wrong with the machine but you will kill it running it at half it’s required volts like trying to run an 18v drill with a 9v battery
You must have skipped the part where I added a 240v plug and said it's on 240v input.
@@TheFabricatorSeries this guy is right.. that is your problem. In the states we have 2 hot legs that are 180 degrees out of phase. Each leg is 120 volts. When we combine this we say 240 but it really isn't. Over in China, my understanding, is the hot leg truly is 220 volts. Not two 110s put together. I hope I've explained this well enough.
You should know that typically welder machines that has 250 in its name actually can achieve barely 180 Amps (160 is most common case). It's because its schematics was designed by some engineers who can fix it easily and was able to tune it up to 250 Amps (using expensive electronic components and fine tuning). But in mass production they don't use expensive components (or even they don't use all needed components) and therefore machines must be tuned down a little to reliability improvement.
It's a continuum transfuctioner!
Just bought a 225 amp welder like this one. Having the same 1/2 amp trouble. Have it running on 240 volts like its supposed to. It checked out at half amps with a clamp on meter on 1 lead while welding. Works great and even has arc force setting which increases the amps when you hold a tight arc length and helps to keep rods from sticking. Has built in hot start too. I was very disappointed on the amperage, but when you start welding with it and it works very smooth. I have asked the seller to look into it and if I find out anything I will post it on here. I want to get to the bottom of false advertising or the technical reason why it half amps. By the way I paid $43 for it including shipping from a warehouse in the USA.
GET THEM ON EBAY!! 75 bucks or best offer! 10 bucks shipping
Have a similar "toaster" welder from another Chinese manufacturer. Amp output readings make perfect sense. Here in the US our grid is 2 phase L1/L2/G for 240V (L1/L2 each being 120V if connected L/N) or to updated code L1/L2/N/G. This buzz box was designed for overseas grid L/N/G for 220V +-15%. N should have same potential as G. The way you wired the 6-50P plug, L1 to one blade L2 to one blade and G to G, the welder is only seeing 120V and thus your readout is double what it is actually producing as it is running on half the volts. Works on our 2 phase grid but designed for single phase 220...so only works at half value. Try 120V plug and you will get the same results L1/N/G. Also be much safer this way! Only way to get full power would be to use a step-up transformer 120V to 220/240V. Adding cost and size of transformer makes this a GREAT field/truck 120V repair welder. Throw and go. Don't expect great shop performance...as we all saw.
What you're interpreting to be amps is more likely "power" or percentage of output capability expressed in decimal from an 8 bit encoded value (256). The actual upper and lower bound are probably mechanically limited or are interpreted from a poorly calibrated analog potentiometer - 254 was shown in this video.
that actually may be it
Mr. Holmes you've gone way too far with that. They sell it like 250A welding machine. 4:58 even on the seller's page at AliExpress there're pictures of the machine with rubbed off sticker.
That welding machine is perfect for a tinkerer, around the homestead repairs, and for a kid to start on. Pretty decent for $100.
But 100 bucks gets ONLY the machine and nothing else. You'll be 400 into a machine that isn't worth it before you can lay down a bead.
That intro where he fades from the thumbnail was amazing
Actually those Ebay turbos have come a long way in the last couple years :)
William Zoom I agree. They aren't what they used to be. I know of a few brands that last more than a mile (a few years actually).
no they havent ur cars instantly worthless if you were that dumb
The Fabrication Series what brands)
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Emusa
It's 40-60% duty cycle... Thus, it's 120 amps (constant), at 240 amps, at half-duty. It gains amps by doubling the voltage, which requires half the cycle of the power phase. The purpose is for smaller rods and more controls. Where the RAW power welders you are using, are for heavy duty, raw welding. I know it sounds misleading, but it is actually 240 amps, at half duty. If you pulsed your other welders at half-duty, the average would be the same. However, the pulses that manual raw welders use is 60-Hz to 240-Hz. These digital controlled welders run at cycles that are much higher. Thus, you have a high amp pulse, for longer, with a slower duty cycle pulse, enough to get it started on a burn, but not enough to continue to burn through the metal, on your machines. On this tiny machine, working with thinner rods and thinner metal, you will have the same results, where your raw welders would just blow holes in everything that this little welder can work easily with.
It's about having the right tool for the right job.
If you want to TIG aluminum foil, circuit-board contacts, jewelry-boxes and jewelry, you use the mini-welder. If you want to TIG a car, boat, or airplane, you use your TIG welders. If you want to TIG a tank, you use an industrial 480volt or 720volt TIG welding machine. So those same 240-amps result in higher watts. That is also why 100 amps on 110v is only half as powerful as 100 amps on 220v, because its "Watts", not "amps", that welds. 100a x 110v = 11000 watts. 100a x 220v = 22000 watts. (But these machines don't RUN on 110v and 220v, they are more like 10v and 20v, so the amps at the wall are 10a and 20a, respectively and the output is 100a x 10v = 1000 watts and 100a x 20v = 2000 watts, out of your welder.)
Amps are irrelevant, unless the voltages are exactly the same. That's why you should be measuring "wattage", of the output, not at the wall. (Comparing wattage out, to wattage at the wall, tells you how efficient or inefficient a welder is. Just for the record, the mini welder is 40-60% more efficient than the larger raw welders, with the outputs being equal. EG, you save 40-60% in your electric bill... More, since raw welders draw power when idle and digital welders do not.)
"Junk or Not, I Gotta Have One"
regardless it went thru 12 rods and tired you out lol
Great Review. i Like, OLE!
I had one that was smaller in height (square from the front) slightly longer in length.
I was an Italian Rossi. Stick / Tig. Welded amazingly even wet rod started & welded smooth as silk.
Lent it to a friend … never got it back.
I thought that it was a pretty impressive “paper weight” even if it didn’t have that many amps
we had an old welder (SMAW only) from the 20s or 30s in high school. it was about the same size. technology has always been there , no body wanted it.
Well.... Let us face it..Does it work...Mmmmmm.....Yeahhh!!! good product, mmmmeeeehhh but if you consider that you are a welder and that is what you do for a living....It will do an awesome Key Chain!! you can use it a s a personal conversation piece as you make the mention... and yes like ducks don't swim well, don't fly well, don't walk well or snorkel well... but it actually does it!
really great bro, even though the transformer is small the fire is big. thank you for the review bro Greetings from Indonesia (Tinular Channel)
you can use it to make an arc forge, cheap enough that you can dedicate it to that purpose
I suspect what has actually happened with the display is the manufacturer is converting the potentiometer reading to an 8 bit value (0-255) which then gets displayed. This has the added value that they can then advertise a "more powerful unit"
The eBay seller: "Ah great! someone managed to R&D it for us!. Okay, 160 amps."
I just got one of these labeled under the Minleaf name. Cirious about the display accuracy, I held a DC ammeter alongside one of the cables while Dad operated it. At 100, it gave a stuck-rod short 100A for a couple seconds before the current dropped to under 50A. Raising it to 150, we got 150A for a couple seconds again. Raising again to 250, we still got 150A shorted. Meanwhile, actual welding at 100 was reading (I think) under 50A while welding at 150 was reading under 100A. All of this was with a 3/32" rod. We didn't try any of this with 1/8" or bigger yet, it's cold out there ;) (wish we had a heated shop). More welding practice will come in the spring when Minnesota warms up again.
The trouble with these reviews is you have a professional welder reviewing a hobbyist machine.
Exactly, and they always piss on the little guys toys. We are not building skyscrapers out back in the tool shed. These hobbyist machines are awesome for the price and in most cases the application. I'm building artwork, go carts, and bicycles these machines do the job everytime.
I dont build skyscrapers either. I never have. But a piece of junk is a piece of junk. If I see no value in it for even a hobbyist (which I once was), I'm gonna say it. It's really a piece of junk.
@@TheFabricatorSeries Sure , and I'm gona that advice from a guy with an Alfalfa hairdo.
@@iguanapete3809
That's not Alfalfa.
That is a fake mohawk.
@@iguanapete3809 LOL
These things are normally used by a fitter because they are easy to carry around. They are used for tacking and really not used for a full blown weld. Miller and Lincoln have similar products but you hardly ever see anybody using these little nifty machines.
Will you ever review the Vulcan from harbor fright?
If youre a maintenance mechanic it's probably small enough to have on a tool cart as you go work around a shop just with some small 7018 rods (less spatter) and you can use it occasionally to help with simple welding needs and repairs? Im an industrial maintenance technician and i think itd be cool for some things maybe?
Were you running it off 110 or 220 volts? I wouldn't be surprised if it's output changes based on the input voltage.
I saw guy assemble entire deck with roof and everything for caffe near building I lived. He had only grinder and this tiny welder and tube steel was quite big. I asked him about it and he told me it's usable and best thing for him is he can bring all tools with him on bicycle.
Since its junk can i have it?
jack daniels for real though.
i have a older L175 mig but i am a full time RVer and i was on the road and got stuck needing this . my unit is way to big but some thing like this small that i can hid in a bay could really work
Honestly, when you said it goes to 250A, My first thought was "there's no way that little thing does 250A". The question remains however; How would you rate it if the display was actually accurate? Let's say the display maxed out at 125A, would you rate it as a reasonably decent welder for that amperage?
Mind Freshener hes running it on 240volt.
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Mind Freshener, he's running at 240v "didn't you see the plug"?
It is all about duty cycle. And how much the fans and heat sinks and fans can dissipate the heat
It has nothing to do with duty cycle. Duty cycle is how long you can run it at a specific load before you need to cool it down for a specific time. This machine doesn't reach the rated output, it only goes to about half. That is either blatantly misleading advertising or bad design..... maybe both.
You're likely getting half the power because that unit is designed for 240V, and they are marketing it as 120v.
That was exactly what I was thinking. Pretty much the rest of the world is 240V and there aren't even non-Asian instructions, so yeah, probably expecting 240V.
How could something that small, not be under-Powered?
So, it's a 125 Amp Welder?
Different design to a traditional welder. Uses switches rather than coils. Like modern phone chargers compared to ones 10 years ago.
I have to agree that is just cool... before I even see the rest of the video I want one.
what is the best chinese MMA (inverter) you could possibly recommend?
Riland 👍
Wow dude I’m impressed! That little thing puts out 253hamps of pure welding fury! That’s about 125amps of regular welding power, the inferior to the very much superior hamp measured power.
will this be enough for me to start learning stick welding from ground?
No
Got one looks same as this one but rated at 160 amps have run it through ammeter using a shunt amps not far off about 10% low approx . Find it welds really well loads better than machine mart buzz box not exceeded duty cycle yet never seems to get very warm .Unlike old buzz box 2 or 3 rods and it cuts out ! not as good as big welding plant at work but very impressed with it
Did it lay beads ? YES. Would it weld two bits of metal together ? YES.
STOP being a gear snob and face facts, it does what a $1000 machine does.
i second that motion. OLE!
Correct, we all know it's not for welding pipe all day everyday but for a now and then tack or bead it's just right.
Well said, especially the snob comment...
It does tig....
For an infrequent use "Home Hobby" MMA it would be more than ample. Never would i consider it for commercial use lol
Well, you obviously have forgotten this is a DC inverter welder. DC inverter welders produce stable and deeper welding with much less ampers. That means instead of 100A on old welders, you would use 50A on DC inverter. Display will still show 100A because in the rod instruction you would have written those numbers. Those little inverters work great and for many, many years, as I know from the experience, but nobody planned to use them for TIG. So, quite bad review.
Did y use it on 110v. Product page says it is for 220 Volt. Of course amps are half if y have lower Voltage supply it needs.
I don't weld (want to) but my knowledge of electricity says you have to be correct!
hmmm interesting thought
It was plugged into 240v power just as stated and shown in the vid.
@@TheFabricatorSeries said it over to bigclive he'll take it apart and tell us what's going on inside of it
I m sure you are probably rite about the amperage. But give credit where credit is due . For the occasional or hobby welder it works exceptionally well. I've owned it now for over a year with no problems at all. It's cute, it's quite, it's cheap, it's energy efficient, and it gets the job done. It's highly portable, It even broke you down, lol. It got me too! I went thru about 3 lbs of rods before I gave up. It's usefulness Probably extends to sheet metal, exhaust pipe, maybe even hand rails in a multi-story building (portable) All in all where else can you buy a $100 welder (mine $88) that works at all. Even Batteries cost more than that. You bragged about being honest about review, which was everything but. The only problem I watched you have with it was doing something it wasn't designed or advertise to do. even that said I watch your videos because I hotrod and real hotrodding is about scrounging ,building, and buying cheap to go fast. Because anybody with deep pockets can go fast. I like to brag about how fast I went ,cheap. Thanks
So is a 125 amp welder for 99$ not OK?
Max Headflow
Not for this guy.
He need a welder for skyscrapers with a million dollar crane to lift it for him. On the 2nd floor.
You can drill a hole with a $150 Makita drill or with a $20 crappo drill. Take your pick, it’s your choice. But in a few yrs time, which one will still be drilling holes! Buy once, cry once.
@@SWhite-hp5xq not the Makita
@@SWhite-hp5xq that's will-fuck-yee to you
S. White
If I lived in the Philippines ...
The average person makes 200 pesos per day. To feed their families plus other expenses.
$100.00 dollars = 5.000 pesos
My personal system was $3.500.00 plus.
1,865,500.00 Philippine Peso
@ today's marker
Most 3rd word country does average 200.00 their money per day
$4.00 per day .... that will be 25 days of 100% savings plus shipping plus material .... I'll say about 50 days to have a novelty.
Any questions?
THIS VIDEO IS NOT EXCLUSIVE TO THE USA VIEWER. UA-cam is view worldwide in exception to China and some other countries where American ideology is sensor.
Well, I have been sitting in front of my computer for 2.5 hours now; would you please make a bad video so I can stop. LOL Your Series is the absolute Best. video quality and content are top notch. I take everything you say as correct, because I'm just a hobbyist, so don't screw up. haha. You are easy to listen to and watch , so don't change anything. Thank You Rick thumbs up
Dont judge a bomb by it size, or else you underestimate atomic bombs
That Zoltan part had me rolling I swear lol love your videos
Maybe it was a 220V input and not 110V. 220 Volt single phase is standard in China.
He knew that, wired it 220... Pay attention, there's going to be a quiz later!
Great video, but I'll only say you need to plug it to a 240-110 transformer to make it work, looks like it is made in Hong Kong, they use 240v standards there and US is 110v . I think that's where you get the half amp problem
This right here. American 240 volt is not the same as Chinese 240. Our 240 is actually two 120 together but they are out of phase white each other. Over there and europe too they truly have 220 coming out of one hot leg.
12 electrodes and it carried on so it does weld and does what it says.
It actually doesn't do what it says haha. That's the problem. 12 electrodes at an unknown amount of amps with an unknown amount of duty cycle means you'll never know what it will actually do. The amount of rods is actually irrelevant since just about any machine will burn without exceeding its duty cycle if you weld way below it.
If you still have the welds cut them and see how far they penetrated then will know if it can weld.
12 3/32 even in an industrial setting that's good. I'm not sure what people are expecting. Most people are not building 1000 psi vessels or skyscrapers in there garages or small shops unless I'm missing something.
i like your video, w the lunch box welder. something i didn't hear u mention. Adding the additional leads, plus the jumper cable attachment. Creates amperage drop. For what the unit cost, i was impressed. though
It is not meant for TIG start measuring voltage of the arc and real current measurements and compare. MMA is not TIG .
Bought a similar one. But a a little bit bigger , Onex brand 250 amps declaration , has no screen that shows the amps btw. And I don't really care if it only goes to 125. It burns the metal away on max output . And it welds like a champ.
Just checked the link and it says 160 amps. Maybe they saw this and changed it.lol!
Mr. greens boat tanks and aluminium welding They'll probably jack up the price too haha.
The Fabrication Series yeah justin, they probably will. Lmao!!!
Mr. greens boat tanks and aluminium welding
its chinglish .... its expected to fail at advertising like anything coming from China. But it works ... I'm getting one for sure.
Mine "Zohan" have 160A max. on information plate (even it show 253 units of "something" ) , burns well 2,5mm sticks . Current setting seems to be not linear , 210 units works well with 2,5mm stick , 253 quickly making hole in 5mm cold rolled steel and blows 2,5mm stick . Zohan is plugged to 230VAC . Probably will be limited on 120VAC (it was designed to china market voltage - 220V )