Pokémon Colosseum Should Be On The Switch | Game Studio Spotlight
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- Canipa looks back at his favourite Pokémon game and dreams of a world where new artists and developers continued to create Pokémon RPGs.
(Spoilers for Pokemon Colosseum and Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness)
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Pokemon Colosseum, Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness, and Pokemon Ruby footage sourced from: / longplayarchive
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Pokemon Colosseum Interviews - www.nintendo.co.jp/nom/0311/s...
My video on Game Freak and Pokemon Black and White - • Pokemon Black and Whit...
Interview with Shinichi Hiromoto - tablet.wacom.co.jp/article/%E...
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Intro:
Animated by Christian Maize (@CookieficationJ)
Music by Steven Kelly (@Sarifus)
Produced for The Canipa Effect
Games featured in this video (chronologically):
Pokemon Colosseum
Pokemon Sword and Shield
Pokemon X and Y
Pokemon Sun and Moon
Pokemon: Let's Go Eevee
Pokemon Legends: Arceus
Pokemon Scarlet and Violet
Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire
Pokemon Diamond and Pearl
Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness
Pokemon Ranger
Hells (anime)
Boku no Natsuyasumi
Phantom Crash
Everblue
Dragon Quest VII
Dragon Quest III
Pokemon (anime)
Pokemon Black and White
Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl
Pokemon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire
Pokemon: Hisuian Snow (anime)
Pokemon Generations (anime)
Pokemon Evolutions (anime)
POKETOONS (anime)
Pokken Tournament
Super Smash Bros. Melee
Pokemon GO
New Pokemon Snap
Pokemon Stadium
Digimon World: Next Order
Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth
Digimon Survive
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team and Red Rescue Team
Pokemon Conquest
Pokemon Battle Revolution
Pokemon Shuffle Mobile
Pokemon Cafe Mix
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon DX
Music:
00:00 - Normal Battle - Tsukasa Tawada (Pokemon Colosseum)
01:15 - The Canipa Effect Intro - Steven Kelly
01:30 - Shadow Pokemon Lab - Tsukasa Tawada (Pokemon Colosseum)
03:38 - Cipher Peon Battle - Tsukasa Tawada (Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness)
06:28 - Colosseum Round 3 Battle Theme - Tsukasa Tawada (Pokemon Colosseum)
09:17 - Main Theme - Shinichiro Nakamura (Pokemon Conquest)
10:20 - Miror B. Battle - Tsukasa Tawada (Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness)
All footage is used for the purpose of review and is fair use. - Ігри
Just to add on the current Genius Sonority situation: most of the staff that worked on the GameCube games have long left the company, so it's not like they could make another game like that right now. But on better news, some of the devs are still very active and seem to hold a dear place for these games. James Turner famously worked as a designer and 3D animator at Game Freak, taking the spot of art director for Sword and Shield, and shared some concept art for XD a while back. Tsukasa Tawada is still composing music and even made arrangements for Colosseum tracks recently
James Turner also left GF recently though and became a co-owner of a new indie company I think.
Wow! I'd love to hear his arrangements, where am I able to? :}
sauce and source?
@@BBWahoo UA-cam, just search for his name! =P
A number of years ago a friend asked me to get him XD as a birthday present. As this was during the Wii era, the only copies i could get at a cheap price were used copies, so i played it myself a few weeks before I gave it him. I regret not getting an extra copy for myself given that it costs a fortune to buy now.
Damn man, even back in the wii era it was a lot. I unfortunately traded mine in and got £27 measly pounds for it, only to see it sell straight away for £135 at my local gamestation store here in the UK. Gutted now looking back, I didn't know how rare it was at the time, apparently they didn't make many copies of it. That was a fair few years ago too.
you cna just emulate them now :)
@@TheTimeMage I prefer to play games on original hardware. The only system I will emulate over original hardware is the Mega 32X.
I remember trying to get one during that time period as well. I got lucky when I saw one available at a local game stop and bought it immediately.
@@CornishCreamtea07 What's impressive about the GC emulation through nintendont emulator though is that it utilizes the GameCube hardware inside the wii as if you had the disc in the first place. Being extremely well in functionality. Since the wii had GameCube built in.
I always wish we could live in a world where Colosseum/XD spun its own regular spin-off series, where we'd have two series existing side by side with different devs. Game Freak continuing to do their usual thing with the Colosseum/XD being a secondary and maybe more mature series.
Pokémon is an absolutely massive franchise, we have the space for multiple devs handling different parallel series.
Agreed, the snagging mechanics just beg for a continuation of Black & White's Themes alongside the possibilities of either crafting a more traditional RPG experience or something even more experimental through a limited roster of creatures and EXP chances...
It doesn't even have to introduce new Pokémon, just give the spotlight to severely underused ones like the Mythicals of Gens VI - VIII such as Zarude, Zeraora or Volcanion!
@@michaelriverside1139 No, they definitely wouldn't have needed to introduce new ones. Colosseum showed that they could feature Pokemon from a "missing" older generation that otherwise wasn't represented in Gen 3, and that it'd work quite well. Then XD showed that they could mix things up and give a bunch of Pokemon from scattered generations some unique moves, and it'd also work quite well.
It would have been great if the series had continued having one new generation and one remade older gen on the handhelds, then a couple unique console games that had a more Double Battle focus and allowed the player to net some otherwise unseen Pokemon with special moves in the current gen.
Sadly, we live in a world where that not only didn't happen, but transfers and trades have been nerfed and restricted to the point of uselessness.
Honestly there are so many Pokemon now I wouldn't mind if they just stopped making new ones for a while
@@aza3ful1
I bet they could assemble complete games just by cooking-up interactions between existing species and Variants like Primal Dialga or XD-001...
Id buy every release of that for sure. way more interesting to me than the normal games.. Also pokemon mystery dungeon was always cool asf. such good stories.
While I personally enjoy the double battles of Colosseum and Gale of Darkness more than the rest of these games, I do very much respect them for doing something very different while still having the battle system be the same as the main line games aside from Shadow Pokémon.
It’s funny how one of reasons these games even exist at all, was because there were not enough Johto Pokémon in the GBA main line games and you couldn’t transfer Pokémon from Gen 2 to Gen 3, making completing the national dex basically impossible without Colosseum and Gale of Darkness. (Basically Ruby and Sapphire were dexit before Sword and Shield)
Interesting how these games might have never existed at all if the GBA games didn’t have the transfer issue.
It was sort of why I found the dexit incident kind of asinine like it only happened to the gen that played gen 4 people onward and the people before were chopped liver. the fact there were quite a bit of repeats from Kanto instead of johto as expected was such a disaster in the forums even when colosseum came out. everyone eventually warmed up to the games and loved it due to the plot and them exploring double battles more than Hoenn originally did though.
With home exisiting though people are gonna have to try and accept some pokemon will be cut out due to the space on the switch (you can hack mons to be anywhere right now but areas arent built to handle certain sizes so larger mons would look off) unless they fit the the habitat themes of a region, without games like Colosseum to make up for it. Since you can just transfer mons you wanna keep at will now anyway. Which honestly i was prepared for anyway considering not every region has habitats for everyone. Would be nice though if they sold side games again by using the transfer issue as an excuse again.
@@icefiredragon94 Wait, so because it happened before, and IMO was rightly panned during Ruby and Sapphire, that it shouldn't be a problem after that problem reappeared?
Also how can 809 Pokemon fit in a 3DS but in the Switch if it is a technological issue?
Also BW had a lot of missing Pokemon in Unova even in post-game and yet they allowed us to transfer any Pokemon from Gen 1-4 through Pal Park.
@@zjzr08 yeah during Ruby/Saph the technical limitation was real, Gen2 to Gen3 was a big jump and many things just didnt transfer over due to coding, but in Sw/Sh it was just Gamefreak trying to force everyone to use the new pokemons, they got tired of seeing people destroy the new game with my boy Blaziken 😂
I mean they could've been planning for Fire Red and Leaf Green so it's still likely they'd fill the National Dex with those games - still they do supplement those Pokemon earlier and I assume they were planning for a Stadium-like game anyway and it's great it has been expanded to a full adventure like Coll/XD.
Man these two games are my personal favourite spinoffs in the series along with the Mystery Dungeon games. I just love the rustic aesthetic of the Orre region and it kinda sucks that The Pokémon Company aren't willing to allow more stories (at least right now I guess) to be told for an area that works as a yin to the yang of the more vibrant mainline regions.
Game Freak has nothing to do with a decision like that. The Pokemon Company is the one responsible for brand management.
@@JoelBurger Oh yeah I forget they're separate entities, Though at the same time they're both intertwined with one another on an extremely deep level.
I recall hearing about Masuda being asked if there’ll be more games like Colo/XD and he laughed and then said, “No.” Game Freak doesn’t develop the games but still upsetting how there isn’t any known interest of games like them.
I would pay full price for a colosseum or gale of darkness re-release
Let’s talk about a combo pack. I would pay 70$ no questions asked.
@@AWildKappa I’ve already got money set to the side
Lol considering what they are selling for, it would be a steal 😂
I was enjoying the video... but then you went on a tangent about Pokemon Conquest. I had an immediate, viceral reaction: pressing the like button and doing a little cheer. Conquest was way too good of a game to be as forgotten as it is, and seeing not only a mention of it but an endorsement in the wild was amazing. Thank You! Of course the rest of the video was good too of course.
I gotta support any and all mentions of Colosseum/XD games at all times
Same, I will not die peacefully until I see Remasters of these games
Same here. Love these Pokémon spin-off videogames with all my soul, they’re my favorite from all the other Pokémon titles.
really wish battle colosseum had a story mode.
The Pokémon world is so rich, having different titles from the main games to view different aspects of it have always been exciting, and I always want more.
My favorite Pokémon game. My childhood. Have so many hours in this game throughout all of my playthroughs
Pokemon Colosseum will always be my favorite pokemon game
of all time and I appreciate the love and hard work put into it.
From the music to the gameplay it's still beyond anything I've
seen even now. Because of the series I still love pokemon.
Emerald and Pokemon Stadium are peak as Pokemon go.
I hope the future for pokemon gaming continues to grow.
Your points did make sense! Even at the time pokemon wasnt really, well, overworld but had the illusion of it in the mainline games with how vast they were. every place was purposeful and there distractions. Then again i guess this is another reason to hate game reviewers that are used to being paid off or mainly played shooters for me guess.
I'm sad things happened the way it did with Genius Sonority being punished at least partially from EN journal reviewers tastes (which even we don't trust) to the point they're only relegated to puzzle games now. It's why I sort of see GF having to play catch up as punishment for the TPC choosing to blame sonority for the Colosseum games being a flop and am pretty impressed they're catching up as is. Even more so now they're asking help. Maybe one day they could bite their pride and maybe get the company they've made specifically to create 3d games to help again ome day.
Colo and XD were a treat and to me now are what a game focused on the villains are like. Sometimes I think people forget these days villains in the mainline games are more nuisances to your overall goal, that being the badges, than the real threat. So a lot of complaints come from not understanding that. Would be a fun change of pace to have this kinda story beat in a mainline game more often.
I'd say the jury's still out on if Scarlet and Violet "culminate" anything or if they're still about a decade behind on open world game design.
It can be behind other games while still being a culmination for its own series. The way the sentence is phrased meant it had nothing to do with anything but Pokemon.
@@RootVegetabIe But it's not a culmination for pokemon, it's just another stepping stone in the never ending grind mill to pump out advertisements for pokemon merchandise, which is all the series is now
I want Pokemon Colosseum XD. It was rumored when the Switch came out that this would be one of the first remade Pokemon games but I haven't heard anything since. I'd be fine with a dualpack with both games and better graphics and fixes or even a new game set in the megastone universe which is essentially a remake or re-telling of these games.
Strange how they can manage a port of Sunshine and port over Stadium 1 and 2 but XD and colosseum are off the table
I absolutely loved these games as a kid. I still have a couple of VHS tapes of me playing Pokemon Colosseum, because I loved the cutscenes so much that I wanted to watch them again and again. So many cutscenes had this feeling of excitement to them, like the ones you mentioned, or even the lack of music in the Nascour fight which gave this element of unease like something wasn't quite right, or anytime Miror B returned in XD, as it was always hard to know when he was going to show up. I got really obsessed with the mystery of it, the world of Orre, reading through the player's guide to XD, coming up with my own ideas for a sequel, etc. I was a bit disappointed by the lack of story in Battle Revolution, and it didn't do much for me sadly.
I have had a hard time getting into Pokemon after Gen 4, just because I kinda lost interest. If they ever did a kind of game like this again, I'd be immediately on board. Legends Arceus seemed somewhat interesting to me, but I never got to playing it, since the game's criticisms made it not sound like something I'd enjoy.
Excellent video, though. Thanks for taking me back to the good old days.
If you haven't played 5th gen, Black and White and its sequel, I totally reccomend you do, the level of love poured in those games is astounding.
People are harsh on Legends: Arceus but I personally think it's a good game that very much deviates from the formula of the main games. Catching Pokémon is extremely fun and satisfying, and I love how detailed the animations are for the main characters. The boy and the girl both have different expressions and different ways of speaking that made me replay the game all over again to see them both. The character customization is fun and it puts a spin on my favorite generation that really dulls the pain of BDSP for me.
Playing "spot the ancestor" was fun too. Good guys became bad guys, bad guys become your favorites. The Pokémon can be taken out of their balls whenever you want and you can watch them react to each other and the world around them, like lying down in front of a campfire or wild Blissey helping you if you're hurt.
@@Nateiliand That was where I had lost interest at the time. I am sure they are phenomenally made games. The point in my life had shifted because of how old I was at the time and how I enjoyed Pokemon as a social game. It wasn't quite the same at that point.
@@Solaceon Interesting. I appreciate your perspective on this.
@@RogerSmith2004 Oh, yeah, it happened to me too hahahah I left Pokemon on 4th gen as well, but some years laters I tried it because of nostalgia and I found them excellent, just saying, if you wanted to try them 😊
The animations in the Genius Seniority games are STILL better than the main series ones. The criticism was too harsh. There are waves of fans still standing by GS even after the Sword and Shield controversy.
Gamefreak prioritized the battle effects over Pokemon animation itself. For the first 5 gens, the battle effects did the brunt of the work because pokemon sprites didn't need to have crazy reaction or idle animation, just poses or small movements in the case of gen 5. That's on top of everything in the game. With the GC games, since the games were fairly short with little to no post game or side content, they could prioritize making the pokemon themselves look and move better. If Gamefreak were to be given like 5 years of dev time per game, we could get that level of detail for every mon but that's not the reality. Look at Legends Arceus, the much smaller dex and less features meant the pokemon themselves had way more animations themselves.
@@goldmemberpb legends arceus is what I wanted in a Pokemon game, a more realized world
Pokemon NEEDS more mature themes even if it means consolidating them into a separate spinoff series. Its completely understandable to appeal to a younger audience in order to maintain a concurrent fanbase as time goes on. But its just as important to appeal to the original pokemon audience who is not 8 years old anymore. We are in our mid 20s and late 30s, we want something more.....appropriate.
Pokémon NEEDS to do whatever Pokémon feels comfortable doing
They do have mature themes and undertones with the darker pokedex entries and the themes like parental neglect and destroying the world
Their games aren’t just for kids
Or for adults
They are for everyone
Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.
C.S. Lewis
Pokémon is as appropriate as Pokémon wants to be
Just because you feel ashamed or embarrassed for liking the franchise doesn’t mean they have to bend to your will
Pokémon is no different than animal crossing or Kirby or Mario in terms of reachability i don’t see you or Mario fans or Kirby fans asking for more “mature” games
If Pokémon wants to be an escapist comfort game
Then let it
To me it just seems like you forgot what made the franchise so charming and special in the first place
You forgot why you fell in love with Pokémon in the first place
You have become a bit cynical
And that’s fine
That just means you need to find a new franchise
Pokémon games already explore mature themes and undertones
Like mass genocide and parental neglect and abuse
And ecoterrorism and organized crime
Like are those things not mature enough?
Do you want like decapitations and adult seggs scenes or something
Do you want Pokémon riverdale or game of thrones
Like what is it you want that they haven’t already given you
Feels like ur just being ungrateful
It’s like You are asking for more while ur plate is full and you got food in your mouth
They appeal to both older and younger
“More mature”
Have you never read any of the dark pokedex entries
Hell yeah I adore these games, played the so much as a kid!
I need to play through these two games again!
I’d kill for a third game!
Also, my favorite part of Colosseum was having an Umbreon and Espeon to start with!
My second favorite, was the GBA transfer feature.
After I beat this game, I transferred my Pokémon from this into Sapphire, and basically steam rolled through that game
I was listening to some Pokémon Colosseum battle themes after watching your video on Pokémon XY animations (where you used the Cipher Peon battle theme). Then this popped up in my recommended and I just felt astounded, what were the odds??
I totally thought these games are only pokemon battles in 3d arena. I had no idea there were maps to run around in characters and a whole plot in it. Honestly whether or not these were any good they were utterly betrayed by their PR department doing a lousy job of communicating what these games were.
Absolutely. They even put Groudon and Kyogre on the front to make out that it was just a Ruby/Sapphire peripheral. I get that Stadium was their biggest spinoff, but I wish they'd sold Colosseum more as an RPG.
What’s coincidental about this is that it was uploaded the same day Pokemon XD got released in the US in 2005.
I know Colosseum’s job was to allow the missing Pokémon from RSE to appear but it still showed a lot of passion, and not to mention it appealing to older players. Hoping it and XD get a continuation, if that ever does occur.
Rui was my first videogame crush. I don't care if she's just a redesigned Misty, or has the story relevance of a Key Item, OR that she constantly got in the way of turning around in tight hallways, she was perfect to me. 😅
To this day I still ship Rui and Wez lol I love these games
All I have is PTSD of that obnoxiously hard to battle trainer with that feint attack spamming Cacnea that one shot everything.
Thanks for giving my favorite games more recognition and acknowledgment! Fingers crossed we will see them on the switch one day....for now I cling to my gamecube copies!
I love these games, desperately want them on the Switch with Pokemon Home support
Colosseum is such a fun game, it was even my first speedrun. Considering how they incorporated Shadow Pokémon into Pokémon Go, I don't see why they can't remake the Orre games, or even make a new game in that region
I recently got Xd for $50 and dug out my wii with coliseum still in it!! I’m going to be a big winner
I'd love a remake of Colosseum were both Wes' and Rui's stories are expanded upon: Wes' in relation to Snagem Team and why he was working with them before leaving (and why he left, stealing the snag machine with him) and Rui's on her ability to see the aura of shadow Pokémon and were it comes from, expanding some lore with it, and the way she ends up coming with us, in short, more dialoge and more story relevance for her, hahah.
More lore would be good as well, Cypher in itself is perfect the way it is, but the region needs some lore of its own, maybe some legendary regional pokemon, or utilizing Celebi more, it seems like in Agate village something is going on.
And of course, the updated mechanics for shadow pokemon from XD should be implemented on Colosseum.
Also, I want to ride that awesome motorcycle 😂😂
I've always dreamed of a Orre region sequel that involves Cypher capturing Celebi and closing it's heart, effectively preventing the purification process. To combat this, past-Celebi approaches the protagonist, and time travel shenanigans ensue where the protagonist and good Celebi try to outfox Cypher and shadow Celebi to restore the timeline and all that good stuff.
Yes I liked Radiant Historia as a kid.
@@webbowser8834 Listen, that's a great plot, actually hahahahahahh
I like Radiant Historia as well 😍
Colosseum and XD were such great games, They had so much potential with it!
I will never forget my Pokémon XD GameCube that I got for Christmas. Whenever I go back and play Gale of Darkness, it’s still just as good.
Was just talking to my brother about these games. Miss these. Bring them back!
I agree on everything you said! I played Colloseum and XD when they came out and loved them so much, they gave pokemon that weird/dark/scary vibe with a one of a kind story. The animations were ground breaking and starting off with pokemon that aren't startes that you choose was a breath of fresh air (plus umbreon and espeon are my 2 fav eeveelutions). I have been hoping for something similar and onestly Arceus gave me more similar vibes, and now going back to the normal games like S&V doesn't excite me as much. So much of the pokemon community are older people in there 20-30s and we deserve a weird different type of pokemon game with XD and Colosseum. I wish they would do a remake of them for switch, with better grafics and less battles, but I have lost hope in it. Now I'm gonna need to find a gamecube and play them again because I miss them. Thanks for the video!!!
Really good video.
I d like so much too that we would get a prequel or sequel of these games :)
Ps : good song choice on the end of the video ;)
Ps 2 : i just discovered your channel by proposal. And i really like your topics.
+1 sub from Paris, France :)
I love the music in these games as well
Colosseum and XD are my childhood, those two games gave me more hours than any other game I have ever played, im from Puerto Rico and back 5 years ago when Hurricane Maria turned our calendars back to the stone age I did 2 things before the ineviatable happened, dusted off my old 2011 Asus G46V laptop (which is still alive a kicking today) and downloaded Dolphin and both games, played those 2 games back to back during our 5 months of darkness, thankfully we had a small power generator and I was able to charge my laptop every time I needed to. But those 2 games got me thru that shit like it was no big deal, I would just wake up and look foward to playing those 2 games every night.
A dark entry in a bright series? Sounds like Colosseum and Super Paper Mario would be great buddies.
We’re not asking for a whole remake of the games, we just want it ported to the Switch
coloseessum and gale of darkness both sold good actually.
They sold good for regular games, but for full-fledged Pokemon RPGs (especially with console development costs), I can imagine they'd hoped for more.
Man, if we ever get remastered versions of Colo/XD on the Switch, that's like a dream come true. They don't even need to add anything quality of life, just few updates and smoothing on the wanky models/textures and an updated transferring system that lets you one-way transfer them over to Home. I'd pay for full price for that. I'd still pay good money for a non remaster, but I think not doing a remaster of them would be such a wasted opportunity, and the effort they need to put in is little comparatively to the money grab opportunity it holds.
5:07 An 8 year old's idea of what cool, hell yeah, I am 29 and I still think Wes is the coolest thing. Sometimes our kid selves are 100% right.
Colosseum & XD: Gale of Darkness are fantastic games and as far as I am concerned these two games are main series games as they connect to Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, FireRed & LeafGreen.
Glad to see these games get more love!
Priorities is an excuse. The undeniable fact is that Pokemon is one the most successful franchises in the world that brings in millions. It's within Nintendo's power to pump more money into it and get a bigger team to make a better product. If animations being long could become tedious then just add a fast forward button like with fire emblem.
I got a GameCube for Christmas a couple years ago specifically so I could play XD again. I love that game so much.
Just to say, You aren't alone in your love for Orre. Both games were on top 50 sales lists, and seeing as they are both titles that people constantly compare to. Its obvious.
I've been wanting to replay this game for well over 15 years now.
Nintendo. Make it happen.
I am incredibly spoiled.
As a kid at the turn of the century, the GameCube was still hot off the presses. Mom grew up with the OG Nintendo's but Dad was still a grumpy old man.
Growing up I watched the older Saturday morning cartoons on Boomerang. The original Pokémon anime happened to feature on the channel and I loved watching it with the family.
I loved Pokémon so much that my mom would buy me those little Pokémon figures which I subsequently used to act out a multi-layer Pokémon story at the age of 5. It was around this time that Pokémon XD came out.
Mom and Dad exchanged verbal blows, with Dad coming up short on reasons why I couldn't have a Video Game based on my favorite tv show. One sunny day in April of 2006 Mom went to the local K-Mart and brought home a purple GameCube and a copy of what would be my first Pokémon game: Gale of Darkness.
I played that game so much that I to this day remember wasting hours of my life trying to figure out how in the heck to purify shadow Lugia.
Great first exposure, but because of it I find it hard to enjoy the newer titles.
I was so excited to see this is your newest video.
I didn't get to play Colosseum much but I'm a HUGE fan of XD Gale of Darkness. I've started that game over and over many times and yet never beat it.
Twice I got to the point where you're supposed to ride the Lugia Ship to the enemy HQ but I didn't want the game to end and never did.
My first few times playing I didn't know how to purify pokemon with the machine so I rarely purified them and kept a very basic team.
Like one of my favs on my second playthrough was Ledyba/Ledian. Now I know that it's base stats are terrible and that I was dumb.
Nice to see someone educating people on what's actually going on at GameFreak.
I learned a lot myself.
My Pokemon Black and White vid goes into more detail on their switch
@@TheCanipaEffect Watched that too, might give it a rewatch, it was a great vid.
Still my favorite pokemon game of all time
People don't seem to understand that Pokemon has long since outgrown its source material. The games are just vehicles to introduce new things to turn into merchandise.
I think they would benefit coming back as a double pack, or at least a way to catch Johto Pokemon for completionists to catch them all, similar to what these games were to help comptionists back in Gen 3 (it's how I got Ho-Oh and Lugia for my dexs and the only legal way to obtain them in that generation).
I coulda sworn they said one of the Colosseum games was gonna be available on switch...but through the Nintendo membership service to access older games..
Great video, I never got to play XD Gale of Darkness but one day I will, I gave up on Genius seniority working on any RPG game after hearing the news about the lack of staff and the struggle for the development team. However, you're right in suggesting they should at least give us remake version for the Nintendo switch. Pokemon Colosseum still has a strong fan base and is still talked about till this day so it makes a lot of sense for that to be done...Maybe one day🙏
I loved this game it is probably my favourite I rented it from blockbuster before eventually got it for Christmas in 2004 I haven’t played it since maybe the summer of 2010 I’ve restarted colo many times I don’t even think it’s readable on my GameCube but I’ve maybe got to find them and play them again thanks for the video I wish these get ported
The things a remake of the 2 colosseum games should do are
-the new typeings
-the new moves
-add in all bonus content from all versions
- maybe an update on the style
- a way to get lugia to have its shadow form outside of the game maybe make it be we can also get shadow mewtwo from pokken
What game was that from where you slipped it in between pokemon moments?
I couldn't agree more with you. I'm not one to ask for remakes or remaster usually but I want these games to get one in order to keep hope alive that there maybe even be a new one one day! The music alone would be worth it
My favorite old Pokémon games from gen3
I wish they'd port Coliseum and Gale of Darkness to Switch. They could charge $50-$60 for each or like $80-$100 for a bundle and I'd happily pay it.
Yeah at one point they should make HD ports of those games. I had done a little HD mock up for a menu for the game just to imagine how it would look like too someday we will see it someday.
I really like this video you gave a wonderful talk about Pokemon colosseum and talk about the different game directions this and game freak games take in a way I don't think anyone I've seen has done. Even though I personally love all of game freaks Pokemon games despite the flaws they have I do hope both colosseum and gale of darkness get release on switch or the next Nintendo console so myself and a whole new generation of people can experience these games for the first time. Hey do you plan on making more Pokemon videos?
Generally, I end up making at least one Pokemon video a year.
@@TheCanipaEffect Okay
It was impossible to even find pokemon XD in stores for me.
Every Switch title has had a unique art direction and I’m really hope they continue this and go further and take more risks! We get a new Pokémon game every year so there is no reason they can’t try out new styles.
unfortunately as long as GF retains the same conservative approach to the battle camera new games will fail to be significantly different.
"unique art direction"?
The games have been looking exactly the same since X & Y
Yes yes and yes! This was actually my first Pokémon game! So many good memories, it doesn’t get enough love.
This was my favorite game as a kid. Man was it hard. I would play the fuck out of a remake or switch online release of this. I still have my physical copies of both of them but it's just a hassle to have my GC connected.
I have come to headcannon that colosseum and gale of darkness were pokemon’s embarrassing teenager phase, and I gree up with them instead of the main series and I was suprised of the lack of double battles when I started playing X
I still play both Colosseum and XD on my computer constantly because of everything you said on the video... I'm 30yo right now, and I still think that these 2 games were BOMB !!! ❤️❤️❤️
I also which we could had Battle Revolution 2, and connect Pokemon Home with Battle Revolution 2, so we can have our own Pokemons in the game (like when we did it back in the old days with the NDS), but since we already going to have Home in our system, we can transfer the pokemons wayyyy more easy.
I think Nintendo and the Pokemon Company NEED to think about all of this, and give us what we want !
I would love to play those games on Switch. Never played the first on but loved Gale of Darkness, I still have my old copy
Those 2 games are sooooo goood.
Pray that Pokémon Legends Arceus doesn’t have the same fate as Colosseum & XD 💀
Bought a modded Wii with Colosseum, XD, and dozens and dozens of other games. So amazing to play through it again!
Bro yes! Colosseum and Conquest both need to be either just on the switch or redo conquest and maybe a couple different ones with still a limited number of pokes but different ones in each game.
A few things need to happen for coloseum/xd/battle revolution to be placed on switch:
1. GBA cable support need to upgrade to pokemon home support.
2. In the beginning of coloseum after battling the first 2 battles in the game with your espeon and umbreon, you will encounter a human trapped in a bag and being carried the the very "syndicate" you betray in the beginning. This is about family friendliness of the game and they might have to edit this part if they are to rerelease the game or get high esrb rating of at least T or M.
They even make Shadow Pokémon a somewhat core feature in Pokémon Go so it’s not like these games have been completely forgotten… I’d be doing flips if they made a third game
These games are part of my teen years and they shaped my perseption of what a Pokémon RPG can be. Going back to them as is would be a challenge, as the Gen 3 meta is so outdated that currently good Pokémon will go back and be bad again. And a lot has changed in 6 generations.
Sad to read among the comments that many of the founding members of Genius Sonority are no longer working, but some Pokémon insiders are gond of the games.
With the Switch in its final years, a remaster of Colosseum and XD would be a fitting test of power for the next Nintendo console.
What the games should have are the following:
The latest meta on day of release.
Additional content to expand both games.
Redesigns for the human cast that maintain the essence of their original designs but modernize them to current aesthetics. And new organic animations.
Fully rearranged soundtrack.
New cinematic segments and voice acting.
If a mainline gimmick is to be implemented, it's Mega Evolution. Take the chance to give new Mega Evolutions to Pokémon that have been long requested.
Orre regional forms and evolutions.
I think that's about it. Any other good change and added features are welcome.
Sidenote: a remastered Pokémon Conquest would be great, alongside two other versions: Birthright and Revelations. (Eh, bad FE: Fates joke, but good ideas nonetheless, with new Pokémon to be added.)
Really great video! Loved hearing the memories you had playing Colosseum and XD as a kid. These games are my childhood. Same with Pokémon channel and mystery dungeon. Still play them today after 15+ years.
It’s really the coolness factor of XD and Colosseum that make them great.
It’s also the world maps that are well detailed with unique buildings and paths. Because of all the detail they put into areas, as a kid I would always speculate if there were areas I would have to unlock or if there were hidden Pokémon / Shadow Pokémon I couldn’t get to. Here’s some of my childhood memories/speculations I had as a kid playing both Colosseum and XD.
Agate Forest I always theorized if there was a rare Pokémon where the stone was. Then later find out as an adult that you could get Celebi there in the Japanese version. Was definitely before I had access to internet, just friends to rely on for information. I could have gotten guidebooks but with the money I had as a kid I’d rather buy a new game. Seeing bosses have legendary dogs as a kid blew my mind cause at the time I never had access to gold and silver till later in my life. This was my first time fighting them and on top of it being able to catch them and use them on my team was so cool! I also loved opening those Pokémon treasure chest with the little Jingle. Super nostalgic. Then trying to catch all 6 Shadow Pokémon from Greevil at the end of XD took me so long as a kid. Lot of that was luck based spamming Ultraballs. I later did a run catching them all in Pokeballs. That was a pain. Was sad to find out later as an adult that you can fight him again to catch those Shadow Pokémon. Also found out you could get Dragonite as a Shadow Pokémon on top of the lighthouse if you fight Miror B. I always knew there was something you could do with him but since I had accidentally killed his Nosepass, not knowing you could rematch him to catch it, I couldn’t fight him even having all my other Pokémon purified. I would always get the Miror B notifications but never knew where to meet him, so when it would pop up I would always run around every area on the map to look for him. I would alway got to the top of the lighthouse and click on everything thinking I needed to engage with something. So when I finally found out how to do it when I was older, it was a good feeling.
So many good memories from these games. They for sure aren’t perfect with the long tedious battles and grindy gameplay, but they are some of my favorite games to date.
I remember the Saturday morning on my 58 when Pokemon first aired so you can say I'm a little bit of an original fan I had all the original cards all the McDonald's collaborations and was an avid Pokemon fan all the way up until about gen 3. Gen 4 I fell off and frankly Pokémon had no draw to me until I started seeing things about sword and shield around the time the DLC got announced and I thought why not go check it out and see what it's up to regardless to say I kind of fell in love with the series all over again pre-ordered Arceus and had a blast and now I'm so excited to see Violet come to fruition. I'm sure I'm not the only 90s kid coming out of the woodwork for these new Pokemon games.
new format series hell yea
We as pokemon fans needs to make a petition for Pokemon colosseum and Pokemon XD gale of darkness to be added on the switch
I used to play xd every summer on my GameCube for 10+ years, want switch versions soooo bad
Got it on the Steam Deck
I can’t even look at ludicolos without thinking about mayor B lol
Are you making an Edgerunners video?
Yep! Will either be out at the end of this month or start of the next.
little appreciated fact about collosseum and gale of darkness, they had the HIGHEST level pokemon battles at the time. mt battle and the under colosseum were the sort of boss battles we needed when gen 3's elite four maxed out at like 60. it was the place to take your pokemon after you ran out of worthy opponents on your gba games, i still remember getting my espeon to level 100 the first ever 100 pokemon i ever had in collosseum in the under. and i still have my first ever swampert on a save file on colosseum somewhere, whenever i completed emerald or firered id trasnfer my pokemon to the gamecube games and theyre just, there now. living life.
mirror b was goated
I LOVE THIS VIDEO AND AGREE. Please make more like this
Should make videos about off beat manga and anime, similar to the director of this games manga
It was literally laughed about in interviews when it was brought up if they had any plans with these games
Sad :(
I concur. Colosseum and Gale of darkness are such underrated games. They need to be brought back to switch port.
i would buy this so fast if it was released on the switch lol. im actually replaying colosseum on an emulator atm...
Hey canipa, found out that you have a Bilibili channel. Why haven’t you post anything there or are you planning in the future? Are you Chinese living in Australia?
The BiliBili channel is operated by a separate company with my permission. I'm not sure when they're planning to start posting, but I believe they're planning on subtitling my videos for it.
I literally just replayed colosseum.
Ok, heres the problem: they arent working on small constrictive handheld consoles anymore
These really bad shortcuts are not excusable. Imagine a first party Sony/Microsoft studio release a game today with early PS2/Xbox details and quality
Gamefreak is not a tiny company like it was in the early 2000s. Theyre far more capable than they realize
I think the problem isn't so much that gamefreak isn't capable of being on par with first party studios, so much that it is the pokemon company's fault that gamefreak can't live up to that potential. GameFreak only makes up a small portion of the pokemon company. The amount of influence they have is constantly endanger of being seen as replaceable, since the merchandising and anime divisions work on a pretty tight deadlines. A single delay of a pokemon game causes delays in the merchandise and anime divisions as well. Most of pokemon's profits comes not from the games but from the merchandising. When it comes to the pokemon company's point of view, the anime and games are really just there to advertise the merch . All of this pressure, its kind of understanding that there is a drop in quality since x and y.
@@BladeMasterIcarus The problem with that is they're fantastic for pixel art, and then modern gaming forced them into 3D modeling, which wasn't their expertise and is harder to implement long term with 1000 pokemon. If they kept the mainline games as enhanced pixel art, and had bigger Arceus/Colosseum like games on the side less often for the 3D, then they could've handled it much easier. They were going to always be forced into the tight schedule line and they don't get the freedom to just forever expand the dev team.
Damn right it should
Can you do pokemon journeys, i feel like the quality has dropped especially right now during the final tournament
Dude was like "why tf is my most viewed video of this month is my old Pokemon 5G video when I released Durarara/Baccano and Lycoris Recoil?? Well, if that’s how it is, let’s dig in my memories and find one of my most memorable souvenir of a Pokémon game"
You...may have read my mind lol
These games really made me like Pokemon and then of course I didn't much enjoy the rest of the Pokemon franchise.