The Ultimate Explosives & Throwables Guide - Hunt: Showdown 1.14.1 Throwable Stats and Tactics
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- This video provides the stats of all throwables, along with visual representations of their effect and lethal radii. It also goes over why and where bombs go through walls.
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------------ timestamps -------------------
0:00 - Intro
0:45 - Store Page Stats
4:45 - Throwable Analysis
7:02 - Tactics & Usage
8:25 - Movement Forcing
10:40 - Read Punishing
12:59 - Area Denial
15:05 - Explosive Wall Penetration
16:30 - Outro
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"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan for every bomb that you throw."
I thought he same :D
I feel like you're quoting the TF2 sniper but it seems wrong
@Moewenfels I'm quoting sniper, but I changed it to match some of his words near the end of the video
Dont add me, i knew it :P i'd bet Cornf did that intentionally too. @@JodDaBod
@Moewenfels I replied to the wrong guy, sorry
A couple best practices I've learned when using throwables:
1) have a teammate shoot as you light a fuse, often times the sound of the shot will cover up the initial fuse spark and you're able to cook it perfectly to get the kill on that pesky Hunter peaking the window
2) pop a fuse at around 97% on the banish timer and toss the bomb to land on the banishment as it finishes. The sound of the banish prevents hunters from hearing the fuse and can give you some easy opening kills as players rush to grab a boss token.
3- Place an alert trip mine, activate it as you start cooking, profit
@@foncareth7857Excuse me, why didn't anyone warn me that a chad was coming to dinner?
@@LeMicronaut im just a poor ronin who saw too much xd
@@foncareth7857I gotta try that
hunt honestly has some of my favorite throwables of any game
agreed, they're all super unique
While it isn't mentioned here I'd like to shout out the wax dynamite. Its description notes about it detonating in water but it can be thrown through choke clouds to put pressure on hunters that try and close off those points.
Yep i never buy regular sticks, always go with the waxed ones just to be sure your boom goes boom :)
Didnt know that, ty!
How dare you put Fortnite footage in my hunt showdown
Concertina bombs are amazing, I got a lot of practice using them in the last event where nobody burned. The one tap people in their range when the explode on contact, but you can hold them in hand silently as long as you want. They are great ambush weapons, you just prime one and hide near a doorway/window out of sight. When an enemy enters the adjacent area, just yeet it and they die instantly and can't easily be rezzed.
Yeah, it is the only impact-activated throwable item which can straight-up kill people. Well, except throwing axes, but that doesn't really count. And even if you land out of the instant death radius of ? damage, they often get eaten by the wires and bleeding.
Love getting taps with these myself. Work nicely sometimes if you can throw em on a bounty that's just finished banishing. If the enemy team haven't got a serpent option it's really irritating and there's a good chance you might catch them going for it after banish.
Hey Cornf, don't forget that the Waxed Dynamite stick doesn't get affected by choke bombs and such. Making it almost impervious to counters, besides Dauntless.
Great vid!
Yep excellent point. I thought the wax was just for water at first. At 24c it makes it the sole reliable siege consumable no matter the map state. Combined with smoke bolts it's a pretty nasty proposition.
@@LeMicronaut it makes boat extracts and choked revives much more difficult to pull off.
Mostly, it's just super deceptive that often gets overlooked by it's counterparts
I think Concertina bombs should have been talked about a bit more. "Least tangible value in a fight" is not something I would describe them as. You can get consistent kills with these landing one at a hunter's feet. It would have been interesting to learn more about the estimated kill radius these have. Also about how they deploy differently in tighter, and open areas.
Yep, the direct hits definitely should've been mentioned. The expansions routes border on the arcane, though. They kind of sort of follow level geometry like funneling up deerstand ladders, but other times they'll pierce solid metal roofs like nothing .
You can also use them in an open field to put temporary cover between you and a sniper for a revive or reposition!
Compact ammo and shotguns can't shoot through a clump of wire for shit, and medium doesn't fare much better, but long ammo (and FMJs?) can shoot straight through like it isn't even there, especially with a bit of careful aim, so you can block a passage but then shoot through it when they can't really shoot back, depending on what weapons they're running.
Another great video from you, but since update 1.15 the poison cloud from the poison bomb lasts 8 minutes and 30 seconds (tested in shooting range), even though in the patch notes it says 7 minutes and in the item descreption 6 minutes
thanks for the heads up, I'll update that tool
My personal favorite has to go to the hive bomb, for all of the points you covered, with the addition that it also functions as the largest-coverage area denial tool for a very convenient duration. Need to locate your opponent? Hive bomb can track them better than you can. Need to block off a wide open area so you can heal without getting pushed? Hive bomb will make a noise when it spots an opponent, so you can't get caught off guard. Need to clear an area before pushing it, but already used your explosive? Hive bomb will disappear after 30 seconds. Even before the flash nerf, I preferred the bees. They're like the bomblance of throwables - simultaneously having a romero, a combat axe, and a frag bow in one weapon, or a dynamite, a flash, and a choke bomb in one convenient little green jar. Amazing.
Yeah, their worst aspect is the potential negative synergy, especially with randoms and limited communication ranges/privacy, but it has to be a solo's dream consumable for starting a fight.
Only questions I had left from the video were how long it took hives to acquire a target (can you peek the swarm safely) and what were the target outcomes in unusual cases (both targets stand next to eachother then seperate after contact, does the hivebomb sweep in a particular direction , like do north players get targeted before south players at the same distance?) Is there a way to cancel a chase but keep the swarm alive and how long will it take to acquire a new target?
@@LeMicronaut
1) Yeah, they're not great for teams, but as someone who plays 90% solo that doesn't present an issue
2) Once a target is in view, the swarm locks on basically instantly, so you more have to play around the fact that you know where you threw the bomb and your opponents don't necessarily, as well as using cover to stop the swarm if you accidentally end up targeted
3) I'd have to do some testing, but I THINK the swarm prioritizes the closest valid target if multiple are in range, since its near impossible to be the EXACT same distance away it seems pretty consistent
4) If the swarm's target dies before the duration is over, it will hover in place and follow its original targeting behavior until its duration is up - so if you get it on one person, they run over towards their teammate, and you down them, the swarm should then target their teammate provided it can see them
With the new trait removal, dauntless is the only trait Im sure to have 100% of the time. Lately it has gotten me more kills and saved me more times than explosives themselves.
Not only does it allow me to keep my position, but a lot of people try and push their dynamite after a throw, and end up being the ones left in an disadvantageous position a lot of times. Assumingly because few people ever expect it.
Not to mention you can dauntless chokebombs, since people always seem to love throwing those when they're out of everything else. Plus now that you can burn hunters with flares, I just dauntless it once the body is burning so I don't have to have my eyes burned out by it afterwards. Then maybe dauntless the choke bomb that that's probably going to show up to stop the burning hunter right after.
I think that basic flares can be put out without even having dauntless since the patch. I know I've been able to and I don't think I had dauntless at the time.
Update: Nope, I must have had it. I may be stupid.
Damn this comment section is full of gold nuggets. 300 hours in and ive never used dauntless lol. I have to up my bomb game 😅
Two mindblowing things I remember from this video:
1. Amazing intro
2. How much Cornfu's voice and looks create a picture of a chad
in my party i am the best grenade thrower (not bragging) and while during my 2k hours i already "feel" grenades very well, anyway i found this video helpful. some of my tips.
1. concertina bombs are actually great at killing in closed spaces. to effectively use them that way you have to have whispersmith perk
2. fusees can be used to actually go for kills with grenades. to do this you can throw decoy fuse randomly or at enemies location. in first case you cook real grenade right away and throw at enemy, who is clueless cus decoy fuse sound covers sound of real grenade. in second scenario enemy starts to run away and you can follow up with easily cooked grenade or shoot him down.
i am very glad youve mentioned hellfire bomb, it was real menace all the time.
Great video! Especially the particular tactics and use cases.
I hope you can make a general tactics video one day.
I feel like that topic is hard to crack but would help a LOT of people.
Not just by improving, but also by having more fun with the game.
Wire can be cleared in a small area by Decoy Fuses, something to keep in mind when using Concertina Bombs.
Decoy fuses deal 40 damage on explosion, and can open or destroy doors, whilst also providing the potential to clear an entry point with less risk to yourself, allowing a faster entry.
Also with the ability to bring three for one slot, you can force a read by bringing two dynamite and making use of them in a fight.
In closing, for one slot you can force enemies to reposition and make opportunities for yourself without wasting more effective consumables.
Your re-evaluation of hellfire bombs is actually very insightful even for me, a 3K-hour player. Great video
The web tool is freaking genius.
Thanks Cornf!!
If you have a long passageway, you can throw a choke bomb at the entrance of the tunnel and place concertina wire further in. This way if someone wants to blast the wire with an explosive, the choke cloud will snuff the fuse as it passes through so it can't take out your wire. They'll have to use waxed dynamite instead, which is unaffected by water or choke clouds.
Poison gas clouds apply separate damage ticks while staying in them. So if you lob several poison darts from a hand crossbow in the same spot, the enemy will take a lot more damage from each separate cloud.
Poison gas can be combined with concertina wire. The wire will slow them down and make them stay in the cloud a lot longer, doing a lot more damage. By combining poison gas, concertina and choke in creative ways, you can create blockages that are extremely costly to remove or pass through.
I use explosives to prevent heals a lot, it's what I base one of my loadouts on. My springfield half bleed half normal with a pistol that has fmj. Tag with the springfield then cook a nade, it forces the person to decide whether they die from the explosive or the bleed.
I also use decoy fuses to increase the number of times I can do this. Decoy fuses can be used as mind games, throwing them multiple times to get people to expect another decoy on the next throw only to throw a nade. This mind game has gotten me many kills in the past.
Hives are amazing for a bleed followup. Their gigantic radius makes them work more consistent. Bleed em with a bow or springy, chuck the bees. 100% dead. They either stop bandaging to run/fight bees and die, or keep bandaging and get eaten by bugs.
Uuuuu i have to try this
Can't forget about the Concertina bomb in the read punish category!
Lot's of fun to punish a repeaker by just tossing a conc in their lap.
Alas most of the time the only thing my teammates are throwing... is the game.
Thanks for reminding me to use the hellfire, I thought about it but something told me fire was not going to be very reliable last event...
Great video
13:10 just a correction, as of 1.15 poison bombs last 8 min before disappearing
Its been a thousand years...
surely next upload will be sooner
@@beretdog9791 Hopefully brother Mashallah
Concertina deserved a mention in Read Punishing, especially if you silence the noisy equip sound with whispersmith. It's not as reliable as an explosion but if you land it close enough to someone they will almost certainly die. Favorite throwable for everything but movement forcing: the utility (cover, area denial, revive blocking) is so worth it, I almost always bring one.
“Get the hell away from stairs” got me. Great work Cornf!
I like how you termed the categories, especially "read punish". That's exactly what I thought of flashes pre-patch since they punish predictable positioning on a read. This video has been my exact approach to utility in this game for years now, and it's refreshing to see someone talk about it.
You’re back! Looking forward to this one!
Great video, and great background music choice.
Brought back some good memories.
These guides are always so helpful! Keep up the good work!
concertinas have incredible value as lethal options as well. Especially when engaging an opponent through a second story window either from inside or outside. Outside the bomb ends up landing just inside the window giving it a massive spread range and if they didn't start running immediately, or were busy shooting/getting shot at they may very well never hear the charge sound. From inside, when someone is rushing your compound you can safely throw a concertina without actually exposing and cover a pretty wide area, either trapping someone inside without their team or outside in the open.
worst case scenario they act as conventional area denial, with the added bonus that they can not be shot through.
These videos are so in depth. Great job man
What a video boss! Great stuff glad to see you back again!
Thanks for the video! Nice work, and thanks for the Pilot Wings 64 music! That game is fantastic!😂 One of the favorit game of my childhood.
finally a quality guide on throwables, thank you
Every time a Cornf video comes out I'm preparing myself to get my mind blown. Was not expecting it to be so literal 💚
I really respect the amount of effort you out into these videos
Amazing video. Very clear and informative. Thanks so much.
Man, it amazes me how much effort you put into each video
Congrats dude, you’re awesome
this is outstanding work dude!!!!
Oh no! You exposed my Hellfire Bomb strate! 😂 seriously ever since the Flash Bomb nerf I’ve ran the Hellfire Bomb. The radius, burn effect, and instant bar burn allows it to turn a game upside down! Thanks for all your testings! I refer back to your videos a lot when working on a new video myself.
About 2 days ago i got an amazing double kill with one concert. I had just been shot by mosin, fell down ladder and died to fall damage. Buddy picked me up, and then they chucked a hive bomb and poisoned me so i could heal. Both were near the top of the ladder. There i was, naked and afraid, and concert was my only throwable. Pulled and and as i was throwing it, one of them poked their head and tried to fan me down with chain pistol (missed every shot because chains, but i digress) landed and polished off a duo saving my badly hurt buddy and able to go pick up my other downed buddy.
Great video. It's a small thing, but Ive got to shout out the Pilotwings ost. Great music, and really fitting for this video.
I love the pilotwings ost man, it's so groovy
Awesome video thanks for the hard work. Looking forward to more.
Great stuff, subscribed!
Thanks for great informative video. Comparing to a heaps and heaps of hastily edited stream footage videos with clickbait titles, which comprises most part of hunt related video, it's a godsend. Infographics looks good.
How did you measured distance on screenshots?
I want also to add a few things:
Concertina bomb best application is pinning down enemy bodies. With my brother we play against trio and always carry concertina because it allows us to secure any kill we get. There is no quick and quiet way to get out of concertina even with help, so body will stay until fight is over. They're as good as dead. It's like burning somebody down but instant and without counters.
Also you can use it like portable cover for revive, for example. Or if you got caught in open. Nothing but fmj and long ammo penetrates concertina but with reduced dmg. For some reason nitro doesn't penetrate concertina at all.
Idk why nobody uses them that way, they are essential for every fight.
Chokes not just tool for fire, they great for agressive and defensive plays. They are making noise while cooking, explode even louder and hum after explosion. Explosion is so loud, you can hide anything if you time it right.
If enemy chasing you, you can throw choke under your feet and turn 90 or even straight to enemy. You canthrow choke to the enemy and run back to it and hide at the edge of the cloud. Nobody expects someone sitting next to choke cloud and they won't hear you running at them behind the noise.
You can throw it just like dynamite at enemy positions to flush them out because everybody avoid them like death. What's making chokes even better than dynamite and chaos bombs is that it's are garanteed to be looted because i's tool. So chokes are better chaos bombs in every way.
I think it's also important to note that the shrapnel bombs (sticky and frag) can also go through walls pretty consistently. As far as I know, this isn't an intended feature, but I've been made bleeding and even died from them through walls more times than I can count.
I posted this comment and then of course the last section covers this lololol
way ahead of you
the MAN is back!
Nice video dude , I learned that hellfire bombs burn a bar instantly , frag bombs are not made to penetrate walls and about bullets passing the concertina wires !
I'm not a sweaty player so it was very useful .
amazing video! i was recently doing testing on explosives and im happy to see my data was about right!! i cant belive the fuze time is wrong in the stores, but thats hunt i suppose, thank you for the work you put in!!!
That explains why cooking over rotjaw felt wrong to begin with. Would always toss it too early before just waiting for the arc to shrink.
yea!! you count to 4 and might be a little early, and it just sits on her while she scurrries away!@@LeMicronaut
Cornf video, we eatin good today
Easy fix to pitcher trait. Pitcher should give the shorter range throwables range equivalent to all other throwables with pitcher buff included.
Excellent video
Excellent video.
Liked and subscribed when I heard Birdman (Pilotwings 64) playing.
you've got good taste
thx for video! subscribed! went from recomendations)
Great video thx for sharing
Happy new year Cornf cat man
🎉
Great video!!!
movement forcing is one of the reason i love using decoy fuses on my melee builds. its so beautiful to catch the panicing hunters inside a compound im pushing.
also funny enough until that video pointing out the nades not going through walls...I had just always assumed that was an upside of fragbombs >.< since they almost consistently hit through walls for and on me.
Poison bombs are silent, quick to throw, and start dealing damage immediately so they're great at instantly denying things like windows, revives, and pathways. They also can just be thrown at people behind cover to immediately damage them, and they deal damage through map geometry so you can wallbang people with them even through thick cement. If they're trying to heal it can just kill them, then it automatically denies their body from being revived. If they don't have Antidote active and their teammate doesn't know there's a poison cloud they sometimes Necromancer them so they die to the cloud, but if they do have Antidote the cloud unfortunately doesn't do anything :steamsad:
I love the frag bomb super underrated.
Brother, the Pilotwings music is 👌
Ah yes! This guides hit different at 2 AM
It's important to note that you can hear very specific differences in the way that the fuse sounds when it is successfully behind a wall vs when it is going to blow through the wall partially or entirely.
Good vid some useful info.
10/10. Thank you!!!
Does Hellfire still burn a small bar vs salveskin or does it function like other Salveskin applications and get lowered by one "burn level" to just igniting them?
Love the Pilot Wings music 😏
Cool saberman tip- if your team mate is dead in the open throw some dynamite on him for a smoke screen. This gives you an opportunity for a revival. Most people don't expect this strategy.
VERY cool vid.
Great vid
And when the world needed him the most, he disappeared...
Miss your content my dude, hope you are doing good !
Very great content ! How about a meelee guide next time ? I would love to see someone as smart and good as you talking about it.
Love using bugs to make people move or make noise. Favorite throwable 10/10
You are my favorite youtuber I hope you know. Good job buddy. ❤️
thanks man, that means a lot :)
The intro 😂. I love it
“I have bulwark.”
“….I knew that.”
Sounds like my usual teammates
one of my favorite clips ever
Me: Runs through a forest and gets headshot outof nowhere
Also me: How could an explosive have saved me?
Joking aside, incredibly helpful and detailed video!❤
Poison bombs also work as read punishers, not just area deniers! Great versatility.
Thanks for putting up these videos to help new players like learn the ins and outs of the bayou!
Do you have a valid discord link? I'd love to be part of a community of players to grow with!
It's always been my experience that frag bombs are vastly more likely to penetrate walls than dynamite, though I have noticed dynamite doing it occasionally as well. Also, Decoy fuses have a higher pitched sound than other fuses, but most people in a fight either aren't going to notice or won't be confident enough to ignore them.
I like the sticky, because noone expects for their wall to suddenly explode, they look for threat on the ground
You can bounce a thrown object off a geometry like wall or tree to prevent it from going out in water
The pilot wings tunes 🤙
thanks corn
Love your video! So tasty content!!
New Cornf video, life good
This video is the bomb
10:05
Don’t forget, the frag bomb gets put out in chokes, the waxed dynamite does not.
Damn. I await the day I can understand the inconsistent wall penetration for explosives. So many frustrating deaths
I threw a nade with pitcher into the extraction point right before they exited, killed the entire trio. It was glorious. 😂
Poison bomb getting increased to 8.5 minutes is a wild buff with its balancing factor being it does nothing against antidote shot which at higher Mmr almost everyone uses a 20min stim
Bless cornf
next video about syringes please? you make great content man
Awesome vid I just have one side question ... is that the soundtrack of pilotwings from the N64 O_o in the background ?
Yes of course!
Idk if the video shows it but I've started using chaos grenades as bait grenades. I'll use a Melee build and charge in right after throwing in the chaos nade.
i love the music
My favorite thing to do lately is throw 2 bug jars at a team I know is around the corner and kill em both with a baseball bat charge it gets me a lot of kills lol
As someone who uses the explosive crossbow bolt a LOT, it can kill on indirect hits too. It just has to land incredibly close to the target and isn't always a guarantee
as far as I could tell from testing it can't get one shot kills against hunters with full health
I believe explosives are PRIMARILY used to kill, at least on console. Many players start ambushes with them, and unless you headshot them, you're guaranteed dead if they wait until you're close before cooking. You can run, but they'll just throw it where they hear the footsteps.
The same issue exists when there's heavy visual cover, like foliage, or bulletproof, ceiling-high walls, as is common in some compounds. You'll hear the frag start cooking - and there's nothing you can do. You can run, but they'll then know exactly where to throw it. You can rush, which guarantees a trade.
The way that most console players utilize explosives is detrimental to Hunt's core gameplay.
edit: I also have to disagree on the effectiveness of hive bombs. They often times clip INTO the ground or whatever wall they hit, enabling enemies to stand within 5m of them without the bees seeing them. They also frequently lose targets - often times when bees are following me, I can round a corner and they simply stop pursuing me. Hive bombs seem much "dumber" than actual hive swarms.
Funny that the meta with a less precise input method relies on revealing your position for 4 seconds and potentially killing yourself. My advice would be to just preemptively choke ambush spots or play choke beetle leap frog with a teammate. Pack a choke bolt and you have instant smoke. Shoot at your feet or if they are cooking behind a wall shoot the top of the wall, if they try a direct path to your steps, the fuse will get intercepted.