Saw the title "Predict your 2000 row score without... " and was so hoping it was "without going on the Erg". That's when I find it starts to get painful.
Cam, I'm also a pretty anaerobic athlete (I do my steady state workouts at roughly 25-27 splits above my 2K for UT2) and I've found that a 6x500 with 1 minute rest was about half a split faster than my 2K; I averaged 1:40.2 for the 6x500 and ended my 2K with a 1:40.8 split.
The old faithful 8*500 r2 is a decent marker. I don't find a lot of the "+x splits" too helpful as the wattage difference for 1 split varies massively depending on how fast you are. Nothing compares to actually crossing the 1250 mark though.
The dreaded 2K! IMHO, if done right, is as close to Dante’s inferno as one can get. The mental side of the training is the most important for me. The workouts tell you want you can do, but your mind can start to doubt.To that end, long, all out pieces, to train your ability to block the pain, 20 minute all out efforts are my go to (ouch). Or a set of ever increasing all out pieces, plenty of rest between. Or just row the monster. And, as that last 500 is simply unimaginable, the value of pick drills during cool downs, making sure your body knows what to do, when your mind is forced to go elsewhere. I plan on a negative split, so I add a second or 2 for the first 500, and If I can stand when I’m done, I chose poorly.
We usually do a 1000m, 750m, 500m and then focus on try to get the feeling of the corresponding part in the 2k. So 1000m represents the first 1000, 750 represents the middle part and the last 500m should get to the end of the 2k. Usually everyone is faster but it gives a good representation.
Yesterday I did a 1.5k, 3k, 500m in prep for a 5k. 50 seconds rest in between each interval. I find that even with two rests at 50 seconds each I can go significantly faster than straight out 5k, about 5 split seconds. I find so much of this is psychological. My first 2k I did at an average split of 1:54. A week later I did a 5k, but I thought my Ergatta machine was going to break it down into 1k intervals, but that was my mistake. I estimated to use my same split time as my 2k at 1:54 since there would be rests, but when I flew through 1k, I was like oh man I guess we are doing this and I held that 1:54 through the whole 5k. The week prior I almost died at that same split doing the 2k. The following week I went back and redid the 2k with this new knowledge that I can do better and finished the 2k at 1:50. Psychology man! -Chris
Cam I’m 60 my best 2k is 7;45 but my 5000 is 18;50, 10k 41 mins . Ive dropped some weight 10kgs so I’m 6ft and 14st 9lbs. I row about 40k meters per week just find that 2k a bloody nightmare .
Just tried the 6 X 500 meters, 2 min. rest. Nailed by 1:45 (or 1:44) for intervals 1-4 and 6. But was gassed and wimped out on interval 5 and just rowed a slow 2:30. Got a little aeorbic work to do still before going for the sub-7 again...
Thanks for your tips for 2k prep. Whatever gets you into the hurt locker has gotta be good with a combination of hotting the all important numbers #yamsquad PS what the heck are you using for a seat pad?
Give it a try! It will be harder but if you manage you know you can get close for the 2k. Adjusting the rest can get the prediction to your actual split but the est adjustment will depend on the athlete!
Hi, this is the workout we did in my club one week before the 2K : 1000m@24, 500@28, 500@32 (without rest). This is your 2k+10sec. It works pretty good ! Continue what you're doing, it's great:-)
The yamsqaud is signed up! We won last year but concept2 said we could not get a prize since we were a virtual club was going to give the prize to one of the yamsqaud too!
@@CameronBuchan Thanks for signing us up! Just saw that Yamsquad is 24th on the leader board. In a year with so many people still under Covid restrictions, perhaps Concept2 will honor the virtual winners too.
@Frank Astierif you haven't done one for a while, you don't know how hard to set off or what to settle in at and also because if you do them too frequently nobody comes rowing 😂
I did a 2k and got 7:28 around 2-3 months ago. I have been doing a lot of aerobic training lately, and I did 3 x 1ks at 1:51, 1:51.5 and 1:52 splits (with 7 mins break inbetween). Can i use these as a indication to predict my upcoming 2k in a week?
This video has some classic Cam moments! You had me do 6x500 a week before my last 2k. The first three 500's were 8 seconds faster than my 2k race pace. The last three 500's were 2 seconds faster than my 2k race pace. Does that mean I am more anaerobic?
Usually I like to do the 6x500s for the athletes as it is a decent predictor given we have the experience. With you I think there is a combination of being on the anaerobic side aswell as your 2k pace still due some improvement!
I personally favour the 4x500/0'r. If you prefer longer intervals you can do 2x1000/0'r, and if you're a sprinter you could try 8x250/0'r
I'm a big fan of the 20x100/0'r actually
I Prefer 6x330m / 15'r. To each their own though.
Saw the title "Predict your 2000 row score without... " and was so hoping it was "without going on the Erg". That's when I find it starts to get painful.
Cam, I'm also a pretty anaerobic athlete (I do my steady state workouts at roughly 25-27 splits above my 2K for UT2) and I've found that a 6x500 with 1 minute rest was about half a split faster than my 2K; I averaged 1:40.2 for the 6x500 and ended my 2K with a 1:40.8 split.
The old faithful 8*500 r2 is a decent marker. I don't find a lot of the "+x splits" too helpful as the wattage difference for 1 split varies massively depending on how fast you are. Nothing compares to actually crossing the 1250 mark though.
doing my first 2k test on thursday, quite nervous for the pain, your videos are so helpful for tips and motivation!!
Snap! Good luck for Thurs!
@@CameronBuchanthanks so much!
The dreaded 2K! IMHO, if done right, is as close to Dante’s inferno as one can get. The mental side of the training is the most important for me. The workouts tell you want you can do, but your mind can start to doubt.To that end, long, all out pieces, to train your ability to block the pain, 20 minute all out efforts are my go to (ouch). Or a set of ever increasing all out pieces, plenty of rest between. Or just row the monster. And, as that last 500 is simply unimaginable, the value of pick drills during cool downs, making sure your body knows what to do, when your mind is forced to go elsewhere. I plan on a negative split, so I add a second or 2 for the first 500, and If I can stand when I’m done, I chose poorly.
We usually do a 1000m, 750m, 500m and then focus on try to get the feeling of the corresponding part in the 2k. So 1000m represents the first 1000, 750 represents the middle part and the last 500m should get to the end of the 2k. Usually everyone is faster but it gives a good representation.
1:09 play 0.25 speed
4x1K with 5 minute rest has always been spot on 2K+1 for me. I go faster on the shorter interval predictors.
That's a greast workout! Can be savage if you pace it wrong too! Perfect!
Yesterday I did a 1.5k, 3k, 500m in prep for a 5k. 50 seconds rest in between each interval. I find that even with two rests at 50 seconds each I can go significantly faster than straight out 5k, about 5 split seconds. I find so much of this is psychological. My first 2k I did at an average split of 1:54. A week later I did a 5k, but I thought my Ergatta machine was going to break it down into 1k intervals, but that was my mistake. I estimated to use my same split time as my 2k at 1:54 since there would be rests, but when I flew through 1k, I was like oh man I guess we are doing this and I held that 1:54 through the whole 5k. The week prior I almost died at that same split doing the 2k. The following week I went back and redid the 2k with this new knowledge that I can do better and finished the 2k at 1:50. Psychology man! -Chris
Cam I’m 60 my best 2k is 7;45 but my 5000 is 18;50, 10k 41 mins . Ive dropped some weight 10kgs so I’m 6ft and 14st 9lbs. I row about 40k meters per week just find that 2k a bloody nightmare .
Hi, man! Do you practice pull ups in you training? And how much can you do?
Just tried the 6 X 500 meters, 2 min. rest. Nailed by 1:45 (or 1:44) for intervals 1-4 and 6. But was gassed and wimped out on interval 5 and just rowed a slow 2:30. Got a little aeorbic work to do still before going for the sub-7 again...
Thanks for your tips for 2k prep. Whatever gets you into the hurt locker has gotta be good with a combination of hotting the all important numbers #yamsquad
PS what the heck are you using for a seat pad?
Agreed. The experience of being in tge pain cave can help so much!
Seat pad wise, just some experimenting!
I like 4x500/1:00r and 6x 500/3:30r. I think 3:30r is lovely, but from what I heard you say, I should try cutting it down to 2:00.
some people even do 1:30 rest
Give it a try! It will be harder but if you manage you know you can get close for the 2k. Adjusting the rest can get the prediction to your actual split but the est adjustment will depend on the athlete!
@@CameronBuchan Thanks! I'm gearing up for a 2K, so will try the 6x 500/2:00 next week.
@@CameronBuchan Thanks! I'm gearing up for a 2K, so will try the 6x 500/2:00 next week.
Hi, this is the workout we did in my club one week before the 2K : 1000m@24, 500@28, 500@32 (without rest). This is your 2k+10sec. It works pretty good !
Continue what you're doing, it's great:-)
Thanks for the video - separate topic - is Yamsquad doing the Concept 2 World Erg Challenge?
The yamsqaud is signed up! We won last year but concept2 said we could not get a prize since we were a virtual club was going to give the prize to one of the yamsqaud too!
@Frank Astier see above reply
@@CameronBuchan Thanks for signing us up! Just saw that Yamsquad is 24th on the leader board. In a year with so many people still under Covid restrictions, perhaps Concept2 will honor the virtual winners too.
I thought the same last year. Unfortunately not!
Very helpfull!
Our coach was youth Olympic silver medalist, he swears by 1k test at rate 20 for a good 2k gauge
@Frank Astierif you haven't done one for a while, you don't know how hard to set off or what to settle in at and also because if you do them too frequently nobody comes rowing 😂
I did a 2k and got 7:28 around 2-3 months ago. I have been doing a lot of aerobic training lately, and I did 3 x 1ks at 1:51, 1:51.5 and 1:52 splits (with 7 mins break inbetween). Can i use these as a indication to predict my upcoming 2k in a week?
6x5 1 min rest is what is did for my last one, did that around a 142 and my 2k was a 143 so decently accurate
Adjusting the rest on the 6x5 I think can help get the prediction close to their split. Nice work!
This video has some classic Cam moments! You had me do 6x500 a week before my last 2k. The first three 500's were 8 seconds faster than my 2k race pace. The last three 500's were 2 seconds faster than my 2k race pace. Does that mean I am more anaerobic?
Usually I like to do the 6x500s for the athletes as it is a decent predictor given we have the experience. With you I think there is a combination of being on the anaerobic side aswell as your 2k pace still due some improvement!
@@CameronBuchan cool thanks boss!
We're doing predicted grades on rowing now fuuuuuuuuufffff
Really good video
It was very good if you could make same video but for 5k
Thank you cam 🙏
nice bro
8x500 with 1min rest :)