You NEED to put more classics on the TB1! There aren't nearly enough, the quality and difficulty of community set problems on the TB1 varies wildly and y'all should address it with classics. People come from the moonboard benchmarks with high expectations and run out of stuff. I know there are lots of angles and different boards but I think the crew should try to work on it.
Video suggestion: one of you chooses their favourite hold on the board, then everyone each sets a boulder that moves through the hold, hopefully in different ways. Thanks for the sweet sweet content ❤ hopefully a UK gym gets one of these soon!
What makes a classic for me is whether or not I had a lot of fun projecting or climbing the boulder. If more than a few others shared the same experience it makes it even more of a classic!
Before this video, I'd have said "classic" ideally implies two things: correct for the grade and benchmarks what the grade means (if I can do all the classics of grade X, I've covered the grade, and if I set a problem, I can grade in relationships to a classic), and highlights a skill/movement that is important to climb well - if I do all the classics of grade X, I'm well rounded at that grade. After this video, I'd add Will's criterion that classic implies non-morpho and grade appropriate for a large range of climbers. Also want to highlight the need for moar TB1 classics.
Defining a "Classic": Height-agnostic or height-specific beta of similar difficulty. Thematic: consistent hold & movement type throughout. Consistent difficulty/resistance of moves (tension match finish included). "Flows" whatever that means.
I think a classic is something that feels good and is fairly straightforward, but allows people to progress on it. Something that most people can pull off the ground on and something that most people cannot finish without a bit of work or strength.
For me, a classic is a climb which ticks a few factors: Inspiring moves that really make you think, a lack of contrivance, relative consistency in difficulty of moves throughout the climb, and finally a subjective and personal "wow!" factor that turns you on from a sense of aesthetics, size, personal journey or something along those lines. Really glad the DBC got the Tension Board 2! It's so good!
For me a classic can fall into two camps. One is simple good and fun movement that tests a skill such as backsteps, pogos or something a little more abstract like tension. I also think of classics more like outdoor climbs. Unique with a hard or sustained crux that can test a variety of skills and might even be a bit awkward or uncomfortable (in the higher grade range) but still really fun and unique.
I think what makes a classic on a board is quality but unique movement by utilizing holds in interesting ways. Outdoor classics are usually slightly sandbagged by either a single move or linking a series of moves.
I think what makes a classic, is a boulder that’s not limited to a certain body type (morpho), and tries to utilize new and fun movement to create a better climber overall.
I think everyone’s idea of what is a classic boulder is going to vary greatly. My thought of a classic is either a boulder I loved to climb or a boulder that taught me something. But either of those definitions of classics are going to vary greatly amongst different climbers who enjoy different styles of climbing. So you will never please everyone with every “classic” boulder but there should be a classic boulder at each grade that represent a variety of styles and body types. Just cause it’s harder for me to squeeze into a small box doesn’t mean I won’t think it’s a classic just the same as a big dynamic move that is harder for someone shorter generally shouldn’t mean it’s automatically not a classic. As long as it’s possible to do and not impossible for people of different body types I think it can still be a classic.
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Your last couple videos have looked very stuttery, try reducing the shutter speed on your camera to increase motion blur. If you want to learn more about this look up the 180 degree shutter rule.
My definition of a classic or benchmark is a climb that introduces a similar gauge of difficulty regardless of height or span. Extremely morpho problems that can feel anywhere between V3 to V7 between individuals of similar skill and strength probably shouldn't be considered a classic. Also controversial take - but I don't think "flowy and enjoyable" should be a metric by which classics should be considered. Oftentimes hard & contrived moves can teach a lot about body positioning and how to generate power/stability out of challenging positions on the wall.
most of the 'classics' are extremely size dependent. otherwise the beta feels really awkward and the grades become meaningless when you're a 6'+ guy trying to fit into one of Mike's scrunchy problems. This is why i typically avoid all the classics. at the end of the day, the grades are subjective and to call something a classic is also completely subjective and imo pointless.
You NEED to put more classics on the TB1! There aren't nearly enough, the quality and difficulty of community set problems on the TB1 varies wildly and y'all should address it with classics. People come from the moonboard benchmarks with high expectations and run out of stuff. I know there are lots of angles and different boards but I think the crew should try to work on it.
Agree with this, love the TB1 and it needs more classics
tb1s need torn out and replaced with tb2
Video suggestion: one of you chooses their favourite hold on the board, then everyone each sets a boulder that moves through the hold, hopefully in different ways.
Thanks for the sweet sweet content ❤ hopefully a UK gym gets one of these soon!
Unique ... enjoyed watching a video with group setting and feedback/adjustments. I would definitely watch more of this content.
I really like Will's climbing style, clearly a long term student of movement.
Satisying movement, accessible / non-morpho, good variety of movement across the set of "classic" climbs
What makes a classic for me is whether or not I had a lot of fun projecting or climbing the boulder. If more than a few others shared the same experience it makes it even more of a classic!
Will has great forerunning feedback.
Before this video, I'd have said "classic" ideally implies two things: correct for the grade and benchmarks what the grade means (if I can do all the classics of grade X, I've covered the grade, and if I set a problem, I can grade in relationships to a classic), and highlights a skill/movement that is important to climb well - if I do all the classics of grade X, I'm well rounded at that grade. After this video, I'd add Will's criterion that classic implies non-morpho and grade appropriate for a large range of climbers. Also want to highlight the need for moar TB1 classics.
Defining a "Classic":
Height-agnostic or height-specific beta of similar difficulty.
Thematic: consistent hold & movement type throughout.
Consistent difficulty/resistance of moves (tension match finish included).
"Flows" whatever that means.
I think a classic is something that feels good and is fairly straightforward, but allows people to progress on it. Something that most people can pull off the ground on and something that most people cannot finish without a bit of work or strength.
This video ist Classic 👍
For me, a classic is a climb which ticks a few factors: Inspiring moves that really make you think, a lack of contrivance, relative consistency in difficulty of moves throughout the climb, and finally a subjective and personal "wow!" factor that turns you on from a sense of aesthetics, size, personal journey or something along those lines.
Really glad the DBC got the Tension Board 2! It's so good!
For me a classic can fall into two camps. One is simple good and fun movement that tests a skill such as backsteps, pogos or something a little more abstract like tension. I also think of classics more like outdoor climbs. Unique with a hard or sustained crux that can test a variety of skills and might even be a bit awkward or uncomfortable (in the higher grade range) but still really fun and unique.
Sounds like there should be two designations. “classic” for type A, and something like “iconic” for type B.
I think what makes a classic on a board is quality but unique movement by utilizing holds in interesting ways. Outdoor classics are usually slightly sandbagged by either a single move or linking a series of moves.
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I think what makes a classic, is a boulder that’s not limited to a certain body type (morpho), and tries to utilize new and fun movement to create a better climber overall.
I think everyone’s idea of what is a classic boulder is going to vary greatly. My thought of a classic is either a boulder I loved to climb or a boulder that taught me something. But either of those definitions of classics are going to vary greatly amongst different climbers who enjoy different styles of climbing. So you will never please everyone with every “classic” boulder but there should be a classic boulder at each grade that represent a variety of styles and body types. Just cause it’s harder for me to squeeze into a small box doesn’t mean I won’t think it’s a classic just the same as a big dynamic move that is harder for someone shorter generally shouldn’t mean it’s automatically not a classic. As long as it’s possible to do and not impossible for people of different body types I think it can still be a classic.
Any idea how when you guys will be running the holiday sale until? Want to order the tension 2 but waiting for that xmas bonus. Don't have any other social media to message you on that's why the comment here. Thanks!
Your last couple videos have looked very stuttery, try reducing the shutter speed on your camera to increase motion blur. If you want to learn more about this look up the 180 degree shutter rule.
I thought it meant that the indoor climb replicates a popular outdoor climb.
A classic is one that makes you remember not just the climb but also the moment 🫡
Classics are dope! Can you have classic submissions so the community can make them as well?
Will there be a new wave of classics on tb2?
Something there are only 10 of on the mini TB1 😅
My definition of a classic are my boulders on the 12x8 spray
A classic boulder is one that is stout and sick
Classic is something that a lot of people can climb and say damn that was good
My definition of a classic or benchmark is a climb that introduces a similar gauge of difficulty regardless of height or span. Extremely morpho problems that can feel anywhere between V3 to V7 between individuals of similar skill and strength probably shouldn't be considered a classic. Also controversial take - but I don't think "flowy and enjoyable" should be a metric by which classics should be considered. Oftentimes hard & contrived moves can teach a lot about body positioning and how to generate power/stability out of challenging positions on the wall.
most of the 'classics' are extremely size dependent. otherwise the beta feels really awkward and the grades become meaningless when you're a 6'+ guy trying to fit into one of Mike's scrunchy problems. This is why i typically avoid all the classics. at the end of the day, the grades are subjective and to call something a classic is also completely subjective and imo pointless.