I have no talent, I'm in no band. I have creative types around me and they fill up a room. I don't know if it was because they were hungrier, full of angst, or intoxicated, but it seems like it was easier to have opinion and creative input back in the day. Sobriety doesn't always take big cahones and filling up a room. Ya, to hear easily top ten of all time greatest guitarists and only member to not let ego lead him away say that it changed him. Ouch. Old sleazy loud guitar player played through excruciating pain, (and put up with all the shenanigans), to have his ideas pushed aside. Ouch. Mick Mars is literally and figuratively, the REAL DEAL. I hope that each of the guys saw this interview, HEARD what Mick wanted to do, and for the Stadium Tour, will use his ideas. It's better than brand new music, it's good music, but made better.
I can believe it. Even James H of Metallica has self doubt issues which amazes me too. It’s strange isn’t it? What drives those guys is the “fear of failure” so it seems.
They are striving for better, at times it’s when they step outside the comfort zone. Swine is a weird record. Got a few cool songs but just a weird record.
I love Mick Mars he's not only a great musician he's also a great human being. He's honest and he isn't the center of attention but he still works hard and is so unappreciated! I love mötley crüe but Mick is so unappreciated and yet one of the most easy to relate to when it comes to the average Joe
Patrick Doran he was a big reason why generation swine failed, he totally killed micks confidence on that record since he was trying to convince the rest of the band to kick him out.
I really like Micks' candor here. Motley was having a full identity crisis on that record, and the bullshit, forgettable results on that swine of an album prove it. That record had nothing to do with Motley Crue. They needed Mick to let it rip more than ever at that time, but instead they tried to sound like whatever was current and choked on it, like so many other bands have.
yeah, that would have been the peak of the "no lead solos" era. Bob Cock neutered Hammet in his wisdom of having Metallica follow a stupid trend.ill never understand why he is such a popular producer, well, he does make commercial hits but musically its crap.McD's sells the most burgers, not the best.
I feel torn because I love the Generation Swine album, but also because Mick Mars will always be my favourite member of the Crüe. I have so much respect for him as a musician and as a person. But I also really love the Swine record.
I can relate to Mick. Fine I'm not and nor have I ever been a musician. But I knew some guy who would criticize me for everything I'd do. And even to this day even though it's been almost a year since I've seen or heard from this guy I still have a lot of self doubt because of that guy.
generation swine had some good songs and I saw the tour also one of the best crue concerts they sounded amazing. it's a different record but you gotta give the songs a chance glitter and rocketship are good little pieces of music. I liked it .
This is why when you record an album, you choose your producer carefully. There have been so many times when a producer didn't appreciate someone in the band is the result is rarely good. Any producer who would criticize Mick's guitar work has no business being a record producer. Good record producers inspire and challenge you to do things you didn't believe you could do. Bad producers just knock down the musicians for their own ego. Mick deserved to be treated better when recording that album.
I read Vince Neil's book and he point blank wrote all the songs one Generation SWINE record "completely sucked". Nikki was in all the magazines back then calling it the best record they ever did. Yet they don't even acknowledge the album anymore. To be honest I thought a good half of those songs were really enjoyable. Bought it brand new in 97.
@Jeremy Stillwell I feel like the one redeeming quality about that album is the song let us prey. Written by Corabi and it seems to be the only song where it wasn't completely digitalized. But yeah they screwed Mick hardcore on that album. when you have a producer trying to convince Tommy Lee he's a better guitar player than Mick mars, something is fuuucked up.
Funny how Tommy is talking about him and Vince singing together and then it cuts to the live clip and there are recorded backing tracks for the Shout chorus.
i was at that show. at the 'warehouse'in toronto. they performed the whole generation swine album front to back. afterwards they played some of the classics. anyone know if there's a full video of that show. ?
I saw that tour in Topeka Kansas but I can say with certainty they did NOT play that whole album start to finish. They did maybe four or five songs mixed in with older stuff. I remember hearing Find Myself, Rat Like Me, Afraid, Glitter. Maybe another song?
It’s really not that bad of an album. Neither is theatre of pain for that matter. Those two albums are like the scarlet letter of Crüe records but if you sit down and listen to them start to finish, you’ll find a lot of things you like about them
This truly was the last time the world was willing to check out new Motley Crue music....and even then, not everyone was. Radio was willing to play a song...and Afraid got minimal airplay. There was quite a bit of press in the lead up to the release, but the product was very hollow and weak.
I remember when that album was coming out it was the first album with Vince back, and mtv had gone to grunge and alternative rock and was refusing to play anything that sounded like traditional hard rock and heavy metal. I remember being exciting think Motely Crue is back with Vince there is some buzz with the band we are finally going to get a slab of traditional hard rock. Then the first single/video came out for Afraid, it sucked balls and then when I heard the album it was even worse. Man the 90s was the worst time to be a metalhead. If you made decent metal you got ignored if metal bands sold out and tried to be grunge they might get some exposure but it was always shit and them watering themselves down. This album was terrible.
The only thing I dont like about this video is that Mick didnt say it was actually Nikki & Tommy who were criticizing him. In The Dirt, it was clearly stated that Sixx & Tommy picked the producer AND also had John Corabi coming in behind Mick’s back to rerecord Mick’s guitar parts. John has revealed that both Sixx & Tommy complained constantly about Mick’s playing & now, in 2022, they’ve replaced him with J5 under the guise that Mick is too frail because of his illness. It’s bs. Mick did an interview yearsssss ago with Guitar Magazine where he stated that several of the band members didnt think he could handle the touring aspect & blamed it on his illness back then. Suxx & Tommy “the manchild” Lee are two d0uchebags & have totally screwed over Mick at every turn. I dont understand how MC fans support that band anymore.
I always found Motley Crue to be a sad joke, but Mick Mars is a legend and carries this mediocre band with killer riffs. LiveWire is one the best , hardest riffs of all time.
I for one tried to like the 1994 album, but I couldn't get into it, and although generation swine sounds nothing like motley crue, I still like it. Still don't know why people hate new tattoo though.
Agree, they thought bringing Vince again to the band would make them great again but what happened was the opposite... But honestly I love MC songs from shout up until the 94 album...
@@saltpeter7429 I would actually have to agree about New Tattoo, there are some really good songs on that album. I really didn't like Generation Swine though.
From what I read in the Dirt, Tommy and Scott Humphrey were trying to make Motley into a fusion of Nine Inch Nails, the Prodigy and Nirvana, that was never going to work.
I love Mick Mars but Generation Swine was one of Motley Crue's best albums ever. Motley Crue had a slightly bubblegum appeal that needed to be put down if they were going to continue. That's why they recorded Motley Crue and that's the reason that they recorded Swine.
Flush is pretty good too. Generation Swine has some punk influence. Beauty and Find Myself have some industrial influence. Rocketship is like Bowie or something. It's an eclectic album. It was brave of them to branch out like that, and I think it worked to a large degree.
It's a damn shame that Generation Swine didn't succeed, bec Shout At The Devil 97 was like the only good few song's that came from that record like🤘🤟🤙🎸✡️🔥
+Gabe Johnstone cuts to Shout 97' version that was from that album and performed that way instead of the original, since then, with the exception of the 2000 summer tour where they did the original version
Fascinating ... I like the record very much to this day, but felt an absence of Mick, even at the time. Tommy's viewpoint is also great - they really were stretching here, and although some of the material didn't best utilize Mick or Vince, it was good stuff.
Generation swine sits at the back of my collection. No scratches or wear. Sleeve pristine and spotless. It hot one spin and that was enough. A bag of shite. The Corabi Lp was great, but didn't feel like crue. Micks guitars never sounded better. Vince's Lp with Steve Stevens was a great record. New tattoo and Saints got the crue train back on track. One more record boys...go on
WtF!! Mick, Fuck them.. You are fucking AWESOME! AAAAh!!.. dude youre famous for the obvious reason.., A talented guitarist!! Case fucking closed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🤘😎😁
I thought the album was good. NOT hard to feel that way if you got an asshole breaking you down. Micks is great, and definitely one of my favorite guitar player's.
Generation Swine is my favorite Crue disc. Too bad Mars didn't like it or the producer. That is music. Not everyone can be satisfied all the time. If it was like that then bands would be boring.
Mick is Motley Crue,he came up with the name,the riffs for the songs and was a big ,HUGE part in them getting anywhere.He found Nikki and Tommy Lee Bass ,the trend following goof! That is what was great in the beginning ,they were setting trends instead of chasing them like on Generation Swine! The last album,which was recorded with each member coming in alone and separate,but still a great album. To me the first 2 were it! After shout,it was hit and miss until they sobered up and made a Aerosmith album with the opening that was great and went down from there. Anyway,if it wasn't for Mick(also getting vince in,and was the one who told Tommy about drum riser ) but at least they knew when to stop before they were a joke like KISS, and Nikki and I loved loved them,until we met them when they opened for them on the Creatures of the Night tour,Motley blew them away,Mick hates them but loves Alice Cooper!Mick Mars rules!
I liked a few of the songs on Swine..did not like the production and mix..for the most part Mick's guitar was buried. New Tattoo was a weak effort..lyrically, but at least I could hear the guitar. SOLA falls right in between those two. I wish Mick would put his solo work out..use Corabi and some other rock screamers..but not Vince.
3 or 4 good songs, but as a whole its by far their worst effort. It's basically a Tommy Lee album, and I guess that's self explanatory. "New Tattoo" was a GREAT album. I love Too Fast and Girls the most though
not really, it was just a change. I had to listen to the album about 10 times to finally appreciate the album and what they were doing and the sound of it. like they say, "takes a few spins to get under your skin." At first I didn't understand it or like it at all, maybe liked one song on it. now I like about 11 of 13 songs off it.
The album was heavily influenced by industrial music, and to be honest, rock and roll guitars just don't go with it. People can disagree with Tommy all they want, but I think Motley's refusal to go in a more experimental direction is part of the reason why he left the group and started Methods of Mayhem. He is the most experimental guy in the band. I think the mistake they made is that they needed to understand that there was a place for the Crue, and there was a place for solo careers. They didn't realize that until later. BTW - Scott Humphrey, who produced Swine and damaged Mick's self-confidence, is one of T-Bone's best buddies and helped him make "Never A Dull Moment." Swine was also just a terrible time for the band because they really didn't want Vince in the band. Nikki is totally right....when Vince bailed and Corabi joined, they should've renamed the band and started by playing theaters. I think the self titled Motley album with Corabi is a GREAT hard rock album, but it wasn't the Crue. They needed to start as if they were a new group. Too much ego.
That's a shitty producer that treats any band member like that. a good producer never has this happen. I'm sure there are discussions and disagreements in the studio about what direction to take a song, but why treat a band guy like this? Scott treated mick like this and for what? THIS ALBUM? Wow, great results there, Scott. no wonder we never hear about you producing anything else.
The only songs on this album worth a shit are the ones John Corabi wrote. Mick being truthful, Tommy stumbling all over his words trying to defend a pure cluster-fucked album. Thank God, Motley Crue is DEAD......RIP
some good songs on the album but most were pretty crap. Tommy loves it because he got to sing on it, but the worst songs on the album are the ones where Nikki and Tommy sing. they didn't really sound and feel like the Crue again until the next album.
Read "The Dirt" and you see how Scott Humphries got over involved and started pitting members against each other. Generation Swine was supposed to be the 2nd Corabi album, but thanks to Humphries, Sixx and Lee going in all directions at once, John couldn't do it. Even Vince wasn't into the recording on that. Tommy is the only one in the band who thought it was great. It was OK, but certainly my least favorite in their catalog.
If we're only comparing the two albums, I'd say yes. New Tattoo, I feel, was a better recording than Generation Swine. Certainly the better of the two.
That's because Tommy has always been like a hyper preteen with ADD. He embraced all the new influences around him, while Mick was, is and always will be the heartbeat and sound of Motley Crue. The constant exclusion of Mick's trademark licks made this Motley's version of KISS' Elder fail.
It’s not a good album. And it’s made worse by the fact that it followed their best music ever (sonically and musically) with Corabi. A tragedy they didn’t continue that way.
Band, lmao, John Corabi plays almost all of the guitars on this, had to teach Vince how to sing the songs, I do not blame Mick for hating this record or the producer. It sucked ass.
He still plays good his son however what is his problem I was on Facebook and him talking too shit too females is not ok. His friend does not like that screw him.
I love Tommy and his talent, but if there’s ever a music taste I don’t trust, it’s his. This guy defends Generation Swine and also likes “I’m In Love With My Car” by Queen. I’m in love with my car is so... not bad, but NOT good.
I cant believe mick mars would have self doubt. Dude was my inspiration to play guitar and i still love to here him play everyday.
I have no talent, I'm in no band. I have creative types around me and they fill up a room. I don't know if it was because they were hungrier, full of angst, or intoxicated, but it seems like it was easier to have opinion and creative input back in the day. Sobriety doesn't always take big cahones and filling up a room. Ya, to hear easily top ten of all time greatest guitarists and only member to not let ego lead him away say that it changed him. Ouch. Old sleazy loud guitar player played through excruciating pain, (and put up with all the shenanigans), to have his ideas pushed aside. Ouch. Mick Mars is literally and figuratively, the REAL DEAL. I hope that each of the guys saw this interview, HEARD what Mick wanted to do, and for the Stadium Tour, will use his ideas. It's better than brand new music, it's good music, but made better.
I can believe it. Even James H of Metallica has self doubt issues which amazes me too. It’s strange isn’t it? What drives those guys is the “fear of failure” so it seems.
They are striving for better, at times it’s when they step outside the comfort zone. Swine is a weird record. Got a few cool songs but just a weird record.
I love Mick Mars he's not only a great musician he's also a great human being. He's honest and he isn't the center of attention but he still works hard and is so unappreciated! I love mötley crüe but Mick is so unappreciated and yet one of the most easy to relate to when it comes to the average Joe
Mick Mars is a Legend. Forget about that one album, he's achieved more greatness than anyone in their wildest dreams could get even close to.
Mick, your fans LOVE you and SUPPORT you!!! You're a LEGEND!!! Hang in there!!!
Smoking in the Boys Room home sweet home girls girls girls. I found it almost bubble gum. I was glad for a change of any kind.
Shitty to hear one of my favourite musicians doubt himself. I hope he doesn't feel that way anymore.
Ever since I read 'The Dirt', I have hated Scott Humphrey for how he supposedly treated Mick.
Patrick Doran he was a big reason why generation swine failed, he totally killed micks confidence on that record since he was trying to convince the rest of the band to kick him out.
Me too. WTF why would Scott do that? I don't get It, Mick Is great
Lmao mick was a big sound of the band without him no crue (just like the others
@@jessedeleon4123 why they try to fire him? Mick is so sweet and such a good guitar player
Bill Fraser he didn’t fit what the producer wanted.
I really like Micks' candor here. Motley was having a full identity crisis on that record, and the bullshit, forgettable results on that swine of an album prove it. That record had nothing to do with Motley Crue. They needed Mick to let it rip more than ever at that time, but instead they tried to sound like whatever was current and choked on it, like so many other bands have.
yeah, that would have been the peak of the "no lead solos" era. Bob Cock neutered Hammet in his wisdom of having Metallica follow a stupid trend.ill never understand why he is such a popular producer, well, he does make commercial hits but musically its crap.McD's sells the most burgers, not the best.
I feel torn because I love the Generation Swine album, but also because Mick Mars will always be my favourite member of the Crüe.
I have so much respect for him as a musician and as a person.
But I also really love the Swine record.
Me too, i love Generation swine and i love Mick , this Is weird, a weird feeling.
I think he would like that you like his work on the record.
Best thing to come from Swine is Shout at the Devil 97
I love Mick's honesty.
I can relate to Mick. Fine I'm not and nor have I ever been a musician. But I knew some guy who would criticize me for everything I'd do. And even to this day even though it's been almost a year since I've seen or heard from this guy I still have a lot of self doubt because of that guy.
You gotta understand that album wasn't Mick's or motleys style but in all honesty I love the album and it's great
Absolutely agree. Not sure how a legend like Mick could or would ever feel self doubt.
I love Mick he has inspired me to do so much it's sad that they treated him badly he's an awesome guitar player
generation swine had some good songs and I saw the tour also one of the best crue concerts they sounded amazing. it's a different record but you gotta give the songs a chance glitter and rocketship are good little pieces of music. I liked it .
what is the point of that new version of Shout at the Devil? Just shows they were out of ideas if you ask me
Mick mars = LEGEND
I like a few songs on that album, “Beauty” and “Afraid” but holy hell did they treat Mick so badly. Mick is very loved by all of us 🖤🖤🤗
I love Mick Mars so much.
This is why when you record an album, you choose your producer carefully. There have been so many times when a producer didn't appreciate someone in the band is the result is rarely good. Any producer who would criticize Mick's guitar work has no business being a record producer. Good record producers inspire and challenge you to do things you didn't believe you could do. Bad producers just knock down the musicians for their own ego. Mick deserved to be treated better when recording that album.
Who the heck is Scott Humphrey and what else did he produce?
Great comment, Pete!
Mick Mars is the man !!!
Mick should never ever doubt himself. He always kicks @s
That album kicked ass. Thanks tommy for sticking up for it.
Of course Tommy loved it when Vince wasn't singing! ha!
Mick Mars is awesome.
With Out Mick Mars there is No Motley Crue!!!
Mick Mars, Absolute Guitar Legend, you definitely shouldn't be having even the slightest bit of self doubt!!! Fuck that.
I totally agree with Mick's opinion here - the guitar is basically a background instrument on that album.
Don’t ever doubt yourself Mick! Just remember if it wasn’t for your guitar licks, Motley wouldn’t be what they are today.
Not my favorite Maotley album but still kicks ass. AFRAID IS A GREAT SONG.
And video
Kiss was a band trading vocals all 4 members!
Is this a documentary? where can I find the full video?
It’s a cool album, obviously not their best but something different - Find Myself & Rat Like Me are two standout tracks 🔥🔥🔥🔥
SO SHWEEEETTT...much love Tee with LIONS NAMED LEO.[the music worldwide}
soooo cool great talk...
I read Vince Neil's book and he point blank wrote all the songs one Generation SWINE record "completely sucked". Nikki was in all the magazines back then calling it the best record they ever did. Yet they don't even acknowledge the album anymore. To be honest I thought a good half of those songs were really enjoyable. Bought it brand new in 97.
Glad I agree with Mick
From my on experiences, someone told me that if l am feeling the negativity from folks there might be jealousy in the mix somewhere.
I love Swine, it's nice to hear Tommy saying good things about it.
@Jeremy Stillwell I feel like the one redeeming quality about that album is the song let us prey. Written by Corabi and it seems to be the only song where it wasn't completely digitalized.
But yeah they screwed Mick hardcore on that album. when you have a producer trying to convince Tommy Lee he's a better guitar player than Mick mars, something is fuuucked up.
I actually agree with Tommy here. I like when different members of the bands sing and I don't really know why it isn't more common.
Funny how Tommy is talking about him and Vince singing together and then it cuts to the live clip and there are recorded backing tracks for the Shout chorus.
In the later days they almost used exclusively backing tracks for choruses. I have no idea why.
i was at that show. at the 'warehouse'in toronto. they performed the whole generation swine album front to back. afterwards they played some of the classics. anyone know if there's a full video of that show. ?
I'd pay anything to watch that show!
I saw that tour in Topeka Kansas but I can say with certainty they did NOT play that whole album start to finish. They did maybe four or five songs mixed in with older stuff. I remember hearing Find Myself, Rat Like Me, Afraid, Glitter. Maybe another song?
It’s really not that bad of an album. Neither is theatre of pain for that matter. Those two albums are like the scarlet letter of Crüe records but if you sit down and listen to them start to finish, you’ll find a lot of things you like about them
For anyone who thinks Generation Swine is their weakest effort, I guess they never heard New Tattoo.
I really like that album.
❤️❤️❤️❤️
THE 1994 JOHN CORABI ALBUM AND 1997'S GENERATION SWINE ARE MOTLEY'S GREATEST ALBUMS.
1 Of Motleys best albums. I don't care wat anyone says. Was the 1st in Yakima county 2 own it...GrImm
Gambit Grimm you're probably the only one to own this pos album!
And last
Glitter was only thing I kept from that record .. cool song
This truly was the last time the world was willing to check out new Motley Crue music....and even then, not everyone was. Radio was willing to play a song...and Afraid got minimal airplay. There was quite a bit of press in the lead up to the release, but the product was very hollow and weak.
MICK said in another Video that he Love it
Strangeeeee
generation swine was a bangin album
Mötley had a heart attack. You can´t destroy the core.
Mick being honest, Tommy trying to defend that trash.
Only decent songs on there were written by Corabi
They should have kept Corabi.
I remember when that album was coming out it was the first album with Vince back, and mtv had gone to grunge and alternative rock and was refusing to play anything that sounded like traditional hard rock and heavy metal. I remember being exciting think Motely Crue is back with Vince there is some buzz with the band we are finally going to get a slab of traditional hard rock. Then the first single/video came out for Afraid, it sucked balls and then when I heard the album it was even worse. Man the 90s was the worst time to be a metalhead. If you made decent metal you got ignored if metal bands sold out and tried to be grunge they might get some exposure but it was always shit and them watering themselves down. This album was terrible.
Mick: That album almost ruined my life..
Tommy: I love when bands play their worst songs..
The only thing I dont like about this video is that Mick didnt say it was actually Nikki & Tommy who were criticizing him. In The Dirt, it was clearly stated that Sixx & Tommy picked the producer AND also had John Corabi coming in behind Mick’s back to rerecord Mick’s guitar parts. John has revealed that both Sixx & Tommy complained constantly about Mick’s playing & now, in 2022, they’ve replaced him with J5 under the guise that Mick is too frail because of his illness. It’s bs. Mick did an interview yearsssss ago with Guitar Magazine where he stated that several of the band members didnt think he could handle the touring aspect & blamed it on his illness back then. Suxx & Tommy “the manchild” Lee are two d0uchebags & have totally screwed over Mick at every turn. I dont understand how MC fans support that band anymore.
🤔 Maybe because Mick’s father was a preacher ?⁉️ All the best to him ✝️❤️
Man I feel really bad for mick he doesn’t get the love he needs I feel bad
xoxoxoxoxo
I always found Motley Crue to be a sad joke, but Mick Mars is a legend and carries this mediocre band with killer riffs.
LiveWire is one the best , hardest riffs of all time.
That album was scattered
Everything after the 1994 album went down hill. Fast.
Saints was decent. But I couldn't stand New Tattoo or Generation Swine.
I for one tried to like the 1994 album, but I couldn't get into it, and although generation swine sounds nothing like motley crue, I still like it. Still don't know why people hate new tattoo though.
Agree, they thought bringing Vince again to the band would make them great again but what happened was the opposite... But honestly I love MC songs from shout up until the 94 album...
I thought new tattoo and Saints were great. They should just streamline from Feelgood to Tattoo. Erase the shit in between.
@@saltpeter7429 I would actually have to agree about New Tattoo, there are some really good songs on that album. I really didn't like Generation Swine though.
Seems like Nikki and Tommy loved the Swine record and Mick and Vince hated it.
Vince didn't care about it really. He just thinks that a lot of people don't like it. Not a bad album, but wasn't what people were waiting for
From what I read in the Dirt, Tommy and Scott Humphrey were trying to make Motley into a fusion of Nine Inch Nails, the Prodigy and Nirvana, that was never going to work.
Can definitely see the NIN influence. I'd say Tommy and Nikki were binging on that.
dennishbergkamp Tommy was into NIN and Nikki was heavily into Skinny Puppy.
Only songs I like from that album are afraid and glitter, although the remix of glitter I think is better than the original
I loved Generation Swine, although not their best work.
Ok.
I'd loved generation swine. Thought that one was the best newer Crue album...
I love Mick Mars but Generation Swine was one of Motley Crue's best albums ever. Motley Crue had a slightly bubblegum appeal that needed to be put down if they were going to continue. That's why they recorded Motley Crue and that's the reason that they recorded Swine.
In Nikki, I trust.
Not a good album but I love the song "glitter"" I don't exactly know why but that's one of my favorite songs ever
Probably because it's a Bryan Adams co-write, which gave it some substance.
Flush is pretty good too. Generation Swine has some punk influence. Beauty and Find Myself have some industrial influence. Rocketship is like Bowie or something. It's an eclectic album. It was brave of them to branch out like that, and I think it worked to a large degree.
It's a damn shame that Generation Swine didn't succeed, bec Shout At The Devil 97 was like the only good few song's that came from that record like🤘🤟🤙🎸✡️🔥
*Cuts to shout at the devil* lol
+Gabe Johnstone cuts to Shout 97' version that was from that album and performed that way instead of the original, since then, with the exception of the 2000 summer tour where they did the original version
Fascinating ... I like the record very much to this day, but felt an absence of Mick, even at the time. Tommy's viewpoint is also great - they really were stretching here, and although some of the material didn't best utilize Mick or Vince, it was good stuff.
Generation swine sits at the back of my collection. No scratches or wear. Sleeve pristine and spotless. It hot one spin and that was enough. A bag of shite. The Corabi Lp was great, but didn't feel like crue. Micks guitars never sounded better. Vince's Lp with Steve Stevens was a great record. New tattoo and Saints got the crue train back on track. One more record boys...go on
NT?? Talk about a bag of shite. Saints was a Sixx AM album. Utter garbage.
WtF!! Mick, Fuck them.. You are fucking AWESOME! AAAAh!!.. dude youre famous for the obvious reason.., A talented guitarist!! Case fucking closed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🤘😎😁
I thought the album was good. NOT hard to feel that way if you got an asshole breaking you down. Micks is great, and definitely one of my favorite guitar player's.
Generation Swine is my favorite Crue disc. Too bad Mars didn't like it or the producer. That is music. Not everyone can be satisfied all the time. If it was like that then bands would be boring.
My condolences on your punctured eardrums and head injury.
Mick is Motley Crue,he came up with the name,the riffs for the songs and was a big ,HUGE part in them getting anywhere.He found Nikki and Tommy Lee Bass ,the trend following goof! That is what was great in the beginning ,they were setting trends instead of chasing them like on Generation Swine! The last album,which was recorded with each member coming in alone and separate,but still a great album. To me the first 2 were it! After shout,it was hit and miss until they sobered up and made a Aerosmith album with the opening that was great and went down from there. Anyway,if it wasn't for Mick(also getting vince in,and was the one who told Tommy about drum riser ) but at least they knew when to stop before they were a joke like KISS, and Nikki and I loved loved them,until we met them when they opened for them on the Creatures of the Night tour,Motley blew them away,Mick hates them but loves Alice Cooper!Mick Mars rules!
Gen Swine the best Crüe album imo. I was born in 02 so maybe that's why but idk man. That shit slaps imo.
I liked a few of the songs on Swine..did not like the production and mix..for the most part Mick's guitar was buried. New Tattoo was a weak effort..lyrically, but at least I could hear the guitar. SOLA falls right in between those two. I wish Mick would put his solo work out..use Corabi and some other rock screamers..but not Vince.
3 or 4 good songs, but as a whole its by far their worst effort. It's basically a Tommy Lee album, and I guess that's self explanatory. "New Tattoo" was a GREAT album. I love Too Fast and Girls the most though
not really, it was just a change. I had to listen to the album about 10 times to finally appreciate the album and what they were doing and the sound of it. like they say, "takes a few spins to get under your skin." At first I didn't understand it or like it at all, maybe liked one song on it. now I like about 11 of 13 songs off it.
I just assumed MIck writes all the guitar parts. Can Nikki even play guitar?
Yes Nikki Sixx can play guitar of course, just basic.
@@rogeliofernandezjimenez3053 lmfao! He can barely play the bass, never mind guitar.
The album was heavily influenced by industrial music, and to be honest, rock and roll guitars just don't go with it. People can disagree with Tommy all they want, but I think Motley's refusal to go in a more experimental direction is part of the reason why he left the group and started Methods of Mayhem. He is the most experimental guy in the band. I think the mistake they made is that they needed to understand that there was a place for the Crue, and there was a place for solo careers. They didn't realize that until later. BTW - Scott Humphrey, who produced Swine and damaged Mick's self-confidence, is one of T-Bone's best buddies and helped him make "Never A Dull Moment." Swine was also just a terrible time for the band because they really didn't want Vince in the band. Nikki is totally right....when Vince bailed and Corabi joined, they should've renamed the band and started by playing theaters. I think the self titled Motley album with Corabi is a GREAT hard rock album, but it wasn't the Crue. They needed to start as if they were a new group. Too much ego.
That's a shitty producer that treats any band member like that. a good producer never has this happen. I'm sure there are discussions and disagreements in the studio about what direction to take a song, but why treat a band guy like this? Scott treated mick like this and for what? THIS ALBUM? Wow, great results there, Scott. no wonder we never hear about you producing anything else.
The only songs on this album worth a shit are the ones John Corabi wrote. Mick being truthful, Tommy stumbling all over his words trying to defend a pure cluster-fucked album. Thank God, Motley Crue is DEAD......RIP
tommy lee used to rock..........................wtf ever!!!!
some good songs on the album but most were pretty crap. Tommy loves it because he got to sing on it, but the worst songs on the album are the ones where Nikki and Tommy sing. they didn't really sound and feel like the Crue again until the next album.
Read "The Dirt" and you see how Scott Humphries got over involved and started pitting members against each other. Generation Swine was supposed to be the 2nd Corabi album, but thanks to Humphries, Sixx and Lee going in all directions at once, John couldn't do it. Even Vince wasn't into the recording on that. Tommy is the only one in the band who thought it was great. It was OK, but certainly my least favorite in their catalog.
Tony Michaels : Would you say that New Tattoo was a better album than Generation Swine ?
If we're only comparing the two albums, I'd say yes. New Tattoo, I feel, was a better recording than Generation Swine. Certainly the better of the two.
That's because Tommy has always been like a hyper preteen with ADD.
He embraced all the new influences around him, while Mick was, is and always will be the heartbeat and sound of Motley Crue. The constant exclusion of Mick's trademark licks made this Motley's version of KISS' Elder fail.
No wonder......no riffs other than a rat like me
Forgettable effort to this Crue fan.
It’s not a good album. And it’s made worse by the fact that it followed their best music ever (sonically and musically) with Corabi. A tragedy they didn’t continue that way.
Band, lmao, John Corabi plays almost all of the guitars on this, had to teach Vince how to sing the songs, I do not blame Mick for hating this record or the producer. It sucked ass.
Generation Swine really sucks, everything is bad. Vocal effects, guitars, can' t stand it... Nice hearing Mick saying the album was a big mistake.
He still plays good his son however what is his problem I was on Facebook and him talking too shit too females is not ok. His friend does not like that screw him.
Nobody like that album
Horrible album
After getting rid of Corabi(the right guy ),they sucked.
I love Tommy and his talent, but if there’s ever a music taste I don’t trust, it’s his. This guy defends Generation Swine and also likes “I’m In Love With My Car” by Queen. I’m in love with my car is so... not bad, but NOT good.