$50 for a Pencil?? Rotring 800 Lead Holder Review
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As skeptical as I was about this lead holder, the price was the only bad thing about it. In fact, the longer I had it and the more I used it, the more it seemed justified. With all the plastic and cheap-feeling pens and pencils out there, it was very refreshing to have one that felt sturdy, strong, and well-made in my hands.
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If I told my younger self that in 2019 I'd be watching a 17 minute long video on a pencil review ... I'd think I would've lost it.
Haha! I understand this feeling! Well written! :)
I never thought I'd be watching a close-up of paint peeling off of a pencil with commentary about it.
@@TheNajSD and yet...
Here we are.
This video has officially kicked off my mid life crisis.
Gen Xers still Rage Against Machines...
You had higher expectations for your future self than I did
Out smart the “it’s graphite” with “I prefer carbon lattice”
everybody gangsta till the layered carbon allotrope slides away
I prefer “amorphous allotrope of carbon” or “multilayer graphene composite”
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My brother: “ That was an intense sip.”
Me: “ He is an intense man.”
This might be the most serious I've ever seen Peter. Hope everything is okay.
I think because he is trying to do an honest review. Usually if he reviews something he doesn't test it for a whole month, but in this case he did. :PP Also yess I hope everything is okayyy :o
Haha.
Im sure he's fine. He says he's in school it could be finals week so stress maybe weighing on him. Idk but i as well hope hes ok
darkmatter780 yeahh or maybe he just got done with one.. I know exactly how that can feel. Just finished all of my finals last week
He drank cofee.
Dude big fan right here!! Probably in this week I binged on 3 years of your vids lol very enjoyable
Me too more or less, and definately to be continued, to Me Peter is an artists artist, I feel a lot of us may be very much alike.
Hi Peter, actually the German company Rotring (from Hamburg) is owned by the American company Newell Rubbermaid. They closed the production in Germany, and those typ of mechanical pencils and leadholders are now manufactured in Japan by a company called Holbein ( funny, because it's a German name...)
Damn, that's really interesting
😕 why do all great ones get sold...kreidler rotring AEG to name a few
Thank you, I didn't know 👍😊
Interesting to know. I am a big fan of Holbein Watercolor paints and didn't know that the pencil I was using was also made by them
Wow, would have never guessed that. But it makes perfect sense because holbein is a most excellent company, like God level, just like Rotring seems to be. I have the impression neither of them are about cutting any corner. You can see it reflected in both the quality of their products 😍 and the price of them also 😭.
Me: looks like an alien mouth
Peter: looks like an alien thingy
I feel like Peter would be a really good teacher. But you cant really teach what he draws, its just gotta be natural
Maybe a philosophy teacher, then.
Yes
@Zero Cool im saying if someone wanted to hire him so that they could draw the same type of things he could help them sure, he's a great artist and his art is not easily replicated. Im saying most people cannot replicate his work because hes very unique and has an eye for what he draws. Doesn't mean what other people draw is better or worse, im just saying his work is very unique and cant really be taught its more of a trait the person has
You could cut the fingers off of your gloves (take them off first).
*Proceeds to sell his fingers for 50 dollars*
"maybe that's why its called rotring" I never thought about that... it blew my mind
Arthur MOLMY 🤔
Yeah lmao “rotring” in German literally translates to “red ring” thus the red ring on all their various models.
As a fellow rotring fan I can also recommend the rapid pro 2 mm version. It's much cheaper and is still all metal and clicks like a mechanical pencil and has a sharpener on top.
Edit: it's like $28-30. Still really expensive but really nice
Every time someone suggests to me what I should draw, I think "If that’s what you want, YOU draw it."
4m4z0n will regularly have these holders on 1/2 off sale; I got mine for $12US
@@Sides3Sides in ops comment.. hes not telling anyone WHAT to draw. Just what to USE to draw. Incel
@@reececrawford1688 In fairness, he could have meant to reply to someone else. Also, incel has a meaning my dude. Calling someone one for doing something unrelated is kinda whack.
Bought some on Black Friday for about $13 each (a Rapid Pro and an 800). Had wanted one for a while, but I think I still prefer my Kuru Toga over them for general purpose.
Love the way you do the “sponsored segment”. So many content creators kind of sneak their way around it with “I just found this great website/product that I like a lot and you should too”. Just be straight with it
I feel i must defend my southern brothers since I have used their pencil in my primary school.
KOH-I-NOOR is Czech!
Czech*
@@vaclavrehak9880 Redone ;-) That's what happens when one writes a comment in a emotional haste.
@@kostek4430 Nice :D
I’m a Bohemian myself, so "Go Koh-I-nor!"
Koh-i-noor isn't near as good as Venus. The pencils are okay but personally I think scripto is better.
I sell all kinds of pencils and I ain't even into them but Koh is bottom rung
Had one of these pencils for over 15 years.
Also own the _matte black_ sister version.
_A thing of beauty is a joy forever_
That french press cozy has inspired me to learn how to crochet!!
Do it. Beer cozy are cute too. My blue moon never looked better.
do it!!! it's super easy once you get the hang of it and its incredibly relaxing...i do it right before bed as a way to decompress my mind and get away from electronic screens before i sleep
Crochet??
You mean knit? :D
I tried knitting before when i was a kid at my grandmas house. Its fun hehe.
@@joshuanorris5860 crocheting and knitting are different
@@summercupcakes6 uh oh. Im confused then hahah
That thingy wasent knitted? xD
Leave it to Peter to find the pencil that possibly doesn’t exist
Do the kids in your school realize how lucky they are to be near such talent?
ITS DISCONTINUED. ITS AMAZING BUT APPARENTLY IT WASNT WHAT ROTRING NEEDED
The point made at 10:14 may be the greatest thing I’ve ever heard on YT.
I really love Peter's reviews, but on this pencil I have to disagree.
Actually this mechanical pencil is pretty bad for anything else than drawing for fun - and Rotring items generally aren't designed for that. If you're thinking about upgrading your pencil for architecture school or something like that, don't go for this one! Besides the fact that material gets stolen all the time, this item is way too heavy for daily use. Sometimes you need to draw for a couple of hours and you'll be really exhausted with a pencil made out of steel after just half an hour or even earlier.
The worst part about it is the way you change the lead though. If you go for 2mm graphite, simple pencils like the Koh-I-Noor Peter compared it to are way more versatile. Sharpening them is a lot easier, they are not that heavy and also last a lifetime. Faber Castell is a much better brand than Koh-I-Noor though.
Rotring items are made for engineering drawing and the brand is known to be the best manufacturer for that. However, this pencil is an exception. It's just overkill for that.
When it comes to drawing for fun, you won't regret buying this pencil though. It's great in quality and I totally agree with everything presented in this video.
meh a friend of mine bought one of those, but not for architecture, but machine building "schlosser" in austria and the reason they are amazing is their durability yyou can drop that shit or smash it with something and it will work perfectly. At least if i'm not mistaking it was a rotring lead holder that cost 50 bucks. Tried drawing with it, was meh, no need for all the steel there, but incredible for what it was designed for. Sharpening isn't a problem either cause you don't do that there
0000 I agree with some of the things that you say. But most of it is objective.
I think you'd need to either have carpal tunnel syndrome, or relatively weaker-than-average hands in order to be exhausted from using a pencil. I've had it for a while and never had a problem with it, and I draw for 2-3 hours every day, and I don't think I have particularly strong hands.
I’d have to respectfully disagree. I’ve been drawing with 600s and 800s for years and never had an exhaustion or soreness issue. I find holding paintbrushes and palettes to be more tiresome, but even then it’s not an problem because you can just shift around for 30 seconds and then you’re good for another hour. Perhaps you have some sort of muscle atrophy disorder or are just generally frail and overall physically pathetic. (Kidding, but I genuinely have not had that problem myself)
@@GuillRickard It doesn't matter what you think, but what actually is. Look, there are no twigs taking of you ain't get bees to eradicate the summer apostrophe. Hope you get it.
Yeah $50 is expensive… but I NEED ITTTT
So I’m German and I think the name rotring comes from the two word rot=red ring=ring, explaining the red plastic ring.
This may be obvious but it just came to my mind
Same in Dutch (I'm Dutch Australian). Rood (pronounced rote) means red. Hence the red ring, Rotring. Just got the connection watching this vid.
Ohhhhhh so thats what he meant :) thanks
It’s obvious. So delete your comment.
galleyman
your comment is unnecessary. i am highly triggered and offended for no reason at all. therefore i demand for you to delete your comment.
galleyman come on man, this may not be obvious for everyone, it took me some time because I wasn’t thinking about it specifically.
This reply is just straight up rude and unnecessary...
I bought this pencil 6 years ago and still using it. This is an awasome pencil, and I have never used a pencil this much before and it is totally worths it's price.
I know you're going to do what you want, but a long time fan here would love to see you study realistic faces/anatomy. Thanks!
I second this ! Maybe he could bring all of his different shapes and lines into the face , but as you said he will do what he wants and imo he should :-)
This guy seems like a real sketchy individual.
😊
Rotring was bought by a Japanese company some years ago! And the production site was moved to japan so thats why your lead holder wad imported from Japan.
That is incorrect, it belongs to an American company en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotring
Edit: some things are manufactured in Japan
Hi Peter, I just wanted to say thank you. I've been kind of depressed lately, and watching your videos has helped me. I love what you do and what you create (art and videos), your an inspiration-thank you.
hang in there, dude
Feeling depressed is the pits. I hope you keep on feeling better and better and have nothing but blue skies ahead. Creating something can help sometimes.
If ever in doubt, you can trust a man with a coffee cosy 🤔
Peter, you should try free motion quilting. It’s basically a continuous line drawing made with thread. I’d be interested to see your style in that medium. 😊🧵
Fun Fact
In Germany we call these "Druckbleistift" which would translate into "Press (from pressing) Pencil. The Name comes from "drücken" which means pressing as you have to press at the end for the lead to come out 💁♂️😂
Fun Fact: In the USA if you press a pencil and the lead automatically advances we call that a mechanical pencil. If the lead falls out due to gravity it is a lead holder. So what this guy has here is a mechanical pencil, not a lead holder. Plus I doubt his Rotring 800 would even fit into a lead sharpener. Looks too fat to me. The barrel is all wrong.
Man, that thing looks great, and I trust you that it feels, and smells delicious. But yeah, steep price. And of course it's a lead holder, the mark is just as good as any old lead holder.
So alltough attractive, I won't spend that much cash on a fancy way to hold a graphite stick. (Also bought a Faber Castle lead holder recently, not $50, but not cheap either, slim sleek desig , nice enough).
Took one look at the Rotring and knew for someone like me with a heavy hand it would be worth the money. Of course I will never take it out of the house. It would be too expensive to lose. Had that experience, let's say multiple times, with my Apple pencil.
Consider putting a lanyard around the pocket clip.
Aww Peter I love the stylus combo pens lol
I used to use a pen/stylus hybrid with my tablet, to draw. I have it with me always to use in my bullet journal, and then if I'm bored and have my tablet on me, I can draw on that. That being said, it's more just a convenience thing because I usually also have a sketchbook with me too, and my fiance has commandeered my tablet anyway. Which is all good because the stylus and of mynpen broke. On the plus side, it's an amazing pen, so I still love it lol. Plus I got it at the wedding of one of my close friends, so it inspires a very good memory :).
japan is a real mechanical pencil wonderland, I wouldnt be surprised if most specialized pencils if not available locally would be coming from japan just because the use of them there is so high, and cute pencil pouches uwu
It’s mindblowing to me that he has 800k subs, doesn’t run any ads in his videos and doesn’t overly promote products.
Chaos huh he does have ads on his videos what’re you talking about
@@dre27321 not if you use UA-cam Vanced
And doesn't even know where koh i noor is from blaah :)
I used the Staedtler Mars Technico 780 (yes largely plastic but well made and a fraction of the cost of that battleship you've been lugging around) all through most of my schooling and it never let me down. Years later it's still going strong! Thanks for introducing your other lead holder, Peter. That one has some swagger.
I've been watching this channel almost everyday for like 4 years, and every video he uploads it feels like a holiday, some old videos from 3 years feel like new, like when i see the old thumbnails i think of them as new videos i dont know why especially the plant reviews and glowing pens
My first video by 'Peter Draws' that I have seen. At first I wanted to shoot myself with his droning monotone voice. But his words were clever and his art was abstract but wonderful. And now I want coffee. And a knitted coffee sweater.
I bought one of these! I love the weight, texture, and overall prowess it has. 60 bucks well spent! (Canadian lol)
Premium but..
I also have a 800 the 0.5 mm for several years now,it is everything you say!
But.. when I use it outdoors in sunny weather, the gold plated tip reflects an gold auro on the paper.
This is extremely disturbing, really. Otherwise it is the best and most used graphite pen I own.
Premium video!
I thought using a lead holders to sketch was a rare thing. I love it. I ran across one in the drafting supply at my local hobby store. I do like to have a sharp point with mine. On the Stylus thing, people with larger fingers use them with better accuracy.
So weird to hear it called 'lead holder'. Always called them versatile pencils. :'D
I've called them a "lead holder" since drafting classes in the 1980s sometime.
The thing with a lead holder is that as long as you threat it nicely it will last forever and consistency is priceless.
Man, the cost really dragged this man down. Hope he overcame all that..
Yea. They are called dollar tree. That's the only place I've seen those stylus pen combos. They have a hole in the. Center of the stylus where the pen comes out.
Dollar tree is the only place I see them. They are awful and ugly, and the only time I used one, was when I had no other pen available lol.
My mom is electrically challenged and electronics hate her, I can literally see her touch some electronics and they will almost instantly glitch out. Becuase of this, she uses stylus sticks and pens becuaee it's eaiwr and faster for her to text messages... I also know people with larger hands and fingers, stylus make it easier for them to use touch screens and phones.
Pretty cool lead holder/pencil... I love a good writing tool as much as the next guy owning multiple quality pens, pencils, and thin pencil like pocket tools, all with values ranging between 25$ - 45$
Having said that, I still think that lead holder is a bit pricey... and for that price I'd expect a couple more features, like erasure and secret holding area in button cap, or unscrewable hole punch/needle, concealable ruler or some other clever addition...but I can still appreciate it's simplistic beauty... just at 29.99$ lol....
In soviet period, in USSR, was popular mechanic pencils for enginering and design drawing. From this time, I got box of some leads with 8B. It's realy soft and I dont know thery I can bye soft leads like this. I like useng mechanic pencils for any drawing, academic or scetching and never sharp them.
Wow, a Daft Punk mug. Awesome thing to have while drawing!
Just love to watch you! One of my FAVORITE art channels on YT. Now that I see you have a DAFT PUNK coffee mug you ranked a billion times higher! Lol. Love the mug👍🏻👍🏻💞
I’ve had my Rotring 600 with red and blue ink and a 0.7 pencil since 1996 and it’s great!
I think the stylus / pencil combo might be fairly popular in Japan. Mech pencils are very popular in Japan because they need to be able to write small and detailed kanji clearly AND Japan is really tech savvy.
I carry the same philosophy for any expensive instrument/utility and such: if it's an item that you're going to interface and interact with alot, it is worth getting the best you can afford and avoid bottom of the barrel stuff.
Few exceptions for cheaping out tho are just personal preference and trusted brands that have earned their space in the market.
Of course always be responsible with your spending and do your research before buying a product.
When u lag online 16:24 - 16:33
Viceoroni the fact peter hearted your comment shows how wonderful he is at laughing at himself
V - NÜX bro I said NO WAY when I got the notification
The best budget lead holder in my opinion thats amazing and is only $11 is the steadler mars technico 780 and for 3 years everyday I would take it with me at school and everywhere with a sketchbook and its still good as new.
I actually don’t like the pencil ngl. I bought a relatively cheap 4$ pencil in Japan at a 7/11 and for me it’s a lot more comfortable than this pencil. The weight is a lot lighter, the strain that it puts after squeezing it and writing for a while is less, and it’s just easier to use
2:47 - they just have these little pieces of lead right here
me - Riiiighhhhttt, litttllleeee
Hi Peter, the "stage freight" you mentioned is actually a known phenomenon. Medical experts call it "R.I.", or Rotring Intimidation. As a decades-old collector of Rotring implements, I can verify that I often avoid eye contact with them...for fear of judgement! They are so well engineered, and so precisely manufactured, that they seem to whisper, "What are you going to do that's worthy of me"?
Such an underestimated comment.
Nice daft punk mug!
I suddenly feel very inadequate about my Staedler 780 lead holder, That Rotring's sexy.
Love my Staedtler Mars 780! Bought some Japanese or Chinese knock-offs recently, and I like them almost as well. They were even cheaper than the $20 a 780 costs nowadays!
A sweater for a french press? What’s next?! A sweater you actually wear on your body?
Check out the video of PD opening mail receiving it.
A friend showed me a Japanese mechanical pencil that had an automatic rotating lead feature, so that it always stays sharp. Ever seen one of those?
I've seen that too. And it doesn't cost no $50. It's under $20. Have a great day.
Got one of those. It is a nice gimmik, but it doesnt really work with most drawing style. the rotation is rather small and you have to press down often to get a full rotation. it is meant for writing, where the feature is acctually really nice.
Yess! I have two of them. A rotring pencil and another japanese pencil I'm not sure the name of. They also have pencils with a function that makes it to where if you press down hard, the pencil has a small amount of give to it, so that you don't break your lead -- and if you twist the grip, the pencil lead will stay firm in place so you can make darker lines because the pencil isn't trying to protect the lead by pushing it in the harder you write, if that makes sense
Connie Krueger kuru toga
The Kuru Toga. Its pretty good for class work and note taking.
What kind of sketchbook is that? The paper looks nice and the pencil seems smooth on it
MeowthWasTaken I liked the off white appearance of the paper he’s using but idk what sketchbook he’s using maybe check out some of his more recent unboxing videos to see wat sketchbook it is anyways I wish you luck on ur sketchbook adventures 👍
Koh - i -noor is Czech company from the Czeh Republik!!!!!!!!!!
i want that pencil so badly even though i dont do art or anything. i cant draw well
Can you do Nicolas Cage "Warlord" intro interpretation, but instead talking about guns, talk about pens? :D
In Canada this bad boy is $138 dollars now!!!!!! Gadddaaaamn.
50$ for a pen/ pencil is not that much taking in to consideration how much pens actually can cost.
I hardly ever draw. When I do draw I only use pens. I have little interest in lead holders. I watched this entire video and I’m pretty sure it’s just cuz I like Peter at this point.
His channel is what I call a "bowl of noodles channel"
Bowl of noodles channel:
1• A channel on UA-cam that has every video uploaded that is perfect to watch while eating a bowl of noodles of all quantities. 2• A UA-cam channel that just does noodle reviews
You're a radical fella. Good show old chap. Draw the drawings that you draw and not the ones that you don't.
Now this lead holder is $70 on Amazon - you got it for a steal, Peter! 😁
Cut out all finger save the pinky. Good grip, no smudging.
Peter. I love everything you do. You honestly inspire me with all your hard work and dedication to your art. But I’m sorry. You have the voice of a man who’s always trying to hold back a burp.
but I let out the burp in this video
Peter Draws fair point, do you commonly hold back on your burps? 😂
@@aidanangel113 no I always let them out, I don't know why my voice sounds the way it does
Peter Draws I do genuinely actually enjoy your voice. The first videos I watched of yours were drawing your feelings, which helped me calm my mind. I know you probably hear this more than enough, but you’d be great at asmr. I understand that it’s not a pathway you wanna pursue, but I don’t think I’d be alone in the enjoyment it would provide .
Man, I so love that French press cozy. I know it has a matching mug cozy which makes it super ultra cute! LOVE IT.
Yeah, I was eyeing that holder...but couldn't justify it for myself. I already have the Steadtler ones and even the black Kohinoor holders... and even a silver 5.6mm holder and I don't even draw that much right now. The dream is alive and well however, so that's a great positive.
I love how heavy and sturdy the RotRing feels. I have the pencil .5 600s and love them.
Japan bought RotRing a while ago....wait, I thought Koh-i-Noor is Czech Republic.
I have the Galaxy Note 10+ which comes with the stylus. To be fair I've never really used digital note taking so I really haven't been using it, but like you said, I love options.
Hey, the other .5 mechanical with knurled grip that I'd recommend is the Tombow mono graph zero. I love how small the eraser is for detailed work and they aren't overly expensive.
The most I use the s-pen for is to magnify things I'm reading online. Lol
I might go for that Tombow. Thanks for the recommendation!
Should also be good for drawing on canvas.
Man, i bought this pencil as a present myself for my high school graduation. Now I'm doing a masters degree and still with me.
I hesitate spending over $20 on a pen to use For drawing and I do have a lot of dip nibs that I have used for years but never one for $50 and never for a single pencil or clutch! Koh-I-noor is a Czech Republic company but they might have an Italian factory, I do enjoy their color pencils and soft (medium) pastels! You are truly talented and quite inspirational in your videos! Thank you for sharing your point of view!
hi peter, dropping in to say I really wish you would put captioning on your videos. the automated ones are horrible, and the deaf/hard of hearing community is quite a large minority that is so often left out on youtube.
plus, 70% of people who watch videos using captions don’t have any hearing loss at all (like me!), but use them for comprehension and clarity, so everyone wins (:
I think it's likely at the point where we can say the word "lead" has multiple meanings. When talking about a pencil "lead" people automatically know you're talking about the graphite core. And like you said, if the meaning is getting across, then language has been achieved.
If I may be pedantic, "lead" has had multiple meanings for centuries. "Lead" as in a lead pencil is probably one of the newest meanings, and comes from the fact that actual lead used to be used to draw gray/dark gray lines on a surface. Despite the fact that they replaced that with healthier (meh) graphite/clay mixtures to make the same kinds of lines didn't change the way they had been referred to for awhile by then. But.. you can "lead" a horse to water, you can "lead" in point totals in a sporting contest, a path can "lead" you to a destination (the hallway leads to his office), a lead (line) was dropped to check the depth of the water, etc., etc. Hell, I could fill two pages with all the definitions and examples using "lead."
Peter, if you like the KOR-I-NOOR get a Alvin PRO-MATIC lead holder, it's pretty sweet.
Love ur content
Hi Peter, what is your favorite Christmas movie?
Great video Peter. A japanese company owns Rotring now. So they might be made in japan at this point. The company being sold sucks. You might buy the Rotring mechanical pencils thinking that you are getting German engineering. And you are not. The pencils work well and they look incredible. The silver pencils are beautiful. Thanks Peter
I spent $100 on a pen. Totally worth it bc the high it gives me
I love my LG Stylo 4
I have the .5 mm silver rotring , I love it and enjoy it .
Also I am a machinist so I can appreciate the quality in manufacturing of these pencils .
Now I must buy the 2.0mm
I wish I had the money for this. I’ve already made my rotring purchase on a .7 mm, and I like it well enough. But the 2 mm is more traditional, and useful. I took a drafting course years ago and have used my blue plastic model ever since. I like that worn metal look on your first pencil, Peter and might save up for one of those.
First! Your videos are awesome!!
Hope your finals went well Peter!!
I use a pen/stylus for my tablet, it's budget friendly and in my opinion I have better control of it than my fingers
I’ve had a realllyyyyyy bad terrible day. You’re always posting when I need it most!!
It's a nice pencil because you feel like a scientist when you use. Somehow, after 5 years, I never lost mine.
On the Import part from japan: I have noticed the same with the german Staedtler brand. In japan staedtler makes high quality all metal pencils in the range of 0.3 to 2.0. Nothing about this on the Staedtler website either and they can only be bought over Amazon regulary. A local shop sold these for a brief period of time and I only got a 0.3, which i regret not buying the whole range. They are very lightweight, probably due to being made in aluminum instead of steel.
But still, why not sell these worldwide?
What is a lead a holder? Is that hipster for mechanical pencil, or is that a real separate thing?
it holds the lead, it doesnt advance it (you need to pull the lead to the right length) unlike a mechanicl pencil, where you click it and it is done, this is usualy needed for larger lead sizes
It’s 2mm lead, it’s used a lot in drafting. They’re usually like the other lead holder he shows with the alien grabber thing
Great, until you lose it
I have one of those pen stylus thingy, I got it from a class that I’ve attended . The ink is nice and gliding really well on paper but it is ugly and I haven’t used it since.
Nice to know you're a coffee presser, too!. Also, you mention the cotton glove making the pencil slippery. Cut the thumb, index, and middle fingertips of the glove off or the entire finger. There is actually a rather overpriced mass-produced version of that sold as a drawing glove.
As for the pencil, I can see where the price is justified with being all precision machined metal. But I am very happy with my under $20 Koh I Noor and Staedtler mechanicals and lead holders. I love that the Koh I Noors have a "dial" at the top which you can rotate to the type of lead you placed in it.
Burp. You're one of the few people who can burp, and I still watch the rest of the video!
So true, any one else I would dislike and close the video, but with peter I say "Bless your heart" :D
@@parkametrist7165 LOL 😂
$70.00 on Amazon ... wowsers.
anyone else here at 4am?