When people tell me they have nothing to hide, I say, "Well cool, then you won't mind giving me the password to your bank account, the ip address of your computer webcam and a key to your house, right?"
Satellite dish can’t be used by your neighbors to spy on you the police and fbi give them money gift cards to do this it’s a violation of the owner castle Doctrine and air space rights
One thing I have used is aluminum foil. Take a sheet abt 1 foot square and roll up your cell phone so that you have several layers. I tested it by turning on my google location settings and then driving by several cell towers. My second test was to get the IP address of my cell phone and then from a desktop computer ran a ping test while wrapping the phone in aluminum foil. It totally killed the pinging to the cell phone.
@@lovesrc4296 I'm in prison and the police are starting to use radio frequency detector and will the foil block those detectors from finding my device?
This reminds me of when i worked for a paging company 25 years ago. The sales people would ask me to go into customers who had doubts about the VHF radio paging coverage. I would turn up with a tin box of biscuits, hand them around the meeting then seal my pager into the tin. I'd ask them to dial my pager and watch their jaws drop when it went off inside the biscuit tin! Of course i had previously measured that the tin attenuated the signal by 40 dB and checked the signal outside before I went into the meeting. We kept a lot of customers with that demo. 73, Chris G4HYG
Every time you use a debit or credit card, the store date and time to the second are recorded! So phone off and cash transactions to keep under the radar...
Poor man's 'sometime' solution when you are at home, hotel, RV, or anyplace with a microwave oven. Put the phone inside the oven but, of course, DO NOT TURN ON THE OVEN.
Only problem with that is the door seal. Same with faraday cages. Weaknesses are always in the door. must be 100% sealed. Microwaves leave enough space for rf signals at the door
I can barely use cell phones anymore they have to be outside my house when I sleep I don't have any other types of technology in my house because I can physically feel them on my body and it causes me a lot of pain how do I create a room where I can block it out completely from outside sources other people's Wi-Fi and stuff it's not even worth living like this and I've even contemplated suicide many times
Me Too Everyday I want to die this is unbearable and no one else in my home is experiencing this,Ive lost access to use all devices,7 cell phones,2ipds,1laptop all ddos me off. Smal black particles are all over my home, not sure where they are coming from yet they burn perfect circles of holes in my clothes. I am living in hell,they have taken over my orivacy and my life. My deoression from this abuse is unbearable. I cant make report on line as I get blocked from sibmitting. This is Pure EVIL. What do we do? I know there is powet in numbers this has to stop. Its desrtroyed ME. Please stay strong yet lets make plan make this abuse stop. Sending Prayers t Everyon
i'm there with you..i get horrible cramps and twitching/insomnia if i'm around it(rf) for too long..there are wifi blocking sheets you can buy(they are pretty expensive)but you could hang them on your walls or around your bed..i'm in the same boat..
If you were trying to test whether or not the bag blocks the phone’s ability to receive GPS, your Find My Friends test doesn’t really show that. What you are seeing with your Find My Friends test is the phone is not updating the service with its position. I would guess that the bag does block GPS, but you need to see if the phone is getting a GPS lock while in the bag to verify that. One possible way you could do that by opening a GPS app on the phone, connect a display cable to the phone, hook up some form of an external display, and then stick the phone in the bag with the cable running out.
I would propose that a shielded video connector cable may act as a decent antenna. I would suggest driving while using the phone as guidance with the volume at maximum... surely the bag isn't soundproof, right? Google Maps will preserve its map data on the device when internet is lost, so long as you don't deviate from the route.
What does it do to the battery life of the phone? I know one of the locations i worked had no cell service and my phone would constantly search for signal killing the battery. I would be interested to see if it blocks NFC so i could put my wallet in the bag for travel. I hate having an NFC card.
I didn't test NFC so I can't say. For phone battery life, I would turn the phone off before putting it in the bag. This would also eliminate potential for overheating. I only left it on so I could show the test results.
@@KM4ACK If you're turning the phone off before putting it in the bag, then do you need the bag? You could put it in airplane mode to remove the battery draining issue.
@@kevinowens4963 Not that we are high level spies or anything, but Snowden claimed the intelligence services could activate camera, mic and tracking on your phone when turned off. Not many phones where it is easy to remove the battery anymore.
Airplane mode is a software solution. We have no way of proving 100% certain it can't be disabled remotely and therefore re-enabling the radios. I miss the days of being able to remove the battery. Until a phone is released that has hardware switches for each radio in the phone, I like the RF blocking bag better than relying on a software solution. Thanks for leaving the comment. I am a huge fan of your channel!
@@KM4ACK Isn't there a Linux phone out there with hard switches? Did you do a vid on them? Learned about 'em somewhere. Limited supply, probably not many of them out. Very economical too--if you can get one.
also with my experience with these devices even if the batteries are removed or unplugged like a flat screen TV and stuff I can feel the energy off of them days even Weeks later a cell phone with a battery removed still operates for a while the ones without removable batteries good luck because they're always running
I'm not sure on this product, if a HT can receive on it, then an EMP would kill the device in there too i think. Just turn on aeroplane mode, that should stop every wireless communication. I however don't know if that also applies to Apple products but I expect it would be the same. I think it would be good to protect passports, credit cards and access cards etc. I have a travel shielded wallet but never tried an actual test on it though.
Copper wire mesh over 100 preferably 200 mesh does the trick. You can solder the seams and have a flap. Stick that in a mylar bag and your good to go. If worried about EMP just have an alligator clip to ground. You can also cut the mesh and form into a round and solder that to metal can lids to seal them against RF. So far none of the commercial gimmicks I have found to be effective and they wear out quickly under use.
Because we really don't have an off switch on modern phones. The "power off" is a software switch and we can't remove the battery from most phones these days. Without a hardware on/off switch or removing the battery, there is no guarantee the phone is actually off to the point that it is impossible to turn it back on remotely or have apps still listening/tracking in the background.
You say "most phones," which may be true. If you focus on cheap smartphones, however, I think you'll find many can still have the battery removed. As the phone losses it's cellular connection it will automatically boost power to search for a tower. I would love to see how long it takes for the battery to do insure that bag compared to outside, if you would consider doing such a test. 73, AC9TW
All you have shown is that the cell phone is unable to transmit data out of the bag. Nothing in this demonstration shows that the signals are bocked sufficiently to prevent the phone receiving GPS data, storing it, and then transmitting once removed.
Correct. This was pointed out earlier and more testing is needed for the GPS. I expect it to block GPS as well though since GPS is the weakest of the signals compared to cellular & wifi.
I am being unwillingly and non-consensually subjected to both Remote Neural Monitoring and Remote Neural Manipulation and I have been so for more than twenty years. I do not know who is Remote Neural Monitoring me or who is remote neural manipulating me and I don't know why they are doing so and I also don't know why members of the Irish government has not put a stop to it because it is a highly illegal act. At approximately 4.50 am on Sunday morning, 14th May, 2023 the muscles of my bowel were manipulated to move against my will by means of Remote Neural Manipulation. Various muscles in my body are often manipulated to move against my will because remote muscle movement is one of the capabilities of Remote Neural Manipulation. What is the legal name and the current legal address and the current location and the current occupation of the individual or individuals who caused the muscles of my bowel to move by remote means on this aforementioned occasion. A few minutes later, at fifteen minutes past five a placed this information on line only to be answered by a voice to skull direct communication message which said the following "I can't accept this". My response to that message is what is the legal name, permanent legal address, current location and current occupation of the individual who said "I can't accept this" and why can you not accept it. My name is Grtta Fahey and my postal address is Newbrook, Claremorris, Co. Mayo, Eircode F12 Y560, Republic of Ireland. I have published my name and address here because a crime is being carried out against me and I am asking for the names of all those who are carrying it out and I am also asking for the names of all of those who organised to have this crime carried out against me.
Or maybe donate some money to EFF and use it and other tools of democracy to legislate against this intrusiveness that should be illegal, even for law enforcement without a warrant? Or the equivalent if you live in another country besides the US.
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When people tell me they have nothing to hide, I say, "Well cool, then you won't mind giving me the password to your bank account, the ip address of your computer webcam and a key to your house, right?"
Ummmm......no. You can't have access to my life :-)
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Satellite dish can’t be used by your neighbors to spy on you the police and fbi give them money gift cards to do this it’s a violation of the owner castle Doctrine and air space rights
One thing I have used is aluminum foil. Take a sheet abt 1 foot square and roll up your cell phone so that you have several layers.
I tested it by turning on my google location settings and then driving by several cell towers.
My second test was to get the IP address of my cell phone and then from a desktop computer ran a ping test while wrapping the phone in aluminum foil. It totally killed the pinging to the cell phone.
I'd like to see your detailed video on this
@@lovesrc4296 I'm in prison and the police are starting to use radio frequency detector and will the foil block those detectors from finding my device?
That's a conductor to electricity
@@Tee.love123make sure to use real foil not food wrap from the canteen, and they're using jammers now so you need to figure out how to get past this.
Great video! I also use an RF attenuation bag for RFID and NFC enabled devices when I travel. I learn something from each of your videos. Thanks!
BTW: Passports too.
This reminds me of when i worked for a paging company 25 years ago. The sales people would ask me to go into customers who had doubts about the VHF radio paging coverage. I would turn up with a tin box of biscuits, hand them around the meeting then seal my pager into the tin. I'd ask them to dial my pager and watch their jaws drop when it went off inside the biscuit tin! Of course i had previously measured that the tin attenuated the signal by 40 dB and checked the signal outside before I went into the meeting. We kept a lot of customers with that demo. 73, Chris G4HYG
thieves still use foil blocks to block the frequency of the signal system when they leave the store stealing it
Every time you use a debit or credit card, the store date and time to the second are recorded! So phone off and cash transactions to keep under the radar...
Any outer suggestions on going stealth brother?
Poor man's 'sometime' solution when you are at home, hotel, RV, or anyplace with a microwave oven. Put the phone inside the oven but, of course, DO NOT TURN ON THE OVEN.
Are you A TI?
@@chrys3073yes! I've got a faraday pouch (it works)
Only problem with that is the door seal. Same with faraday cages. Weaknesses are always in the door. must be 100% sealed. Microwaves leave enough space for rf signals at the door
How do you get evidence if your Bing stakled by bci,v2k,RNM.?
I've found that our intuition is best, learn to listen for inflections. Journal, journal, journal!!
yep thats what I use mission darkness. Works as it should.
As always. Fantastic video.
Thanks for the information.
I need this bag for big use, do you know where we can buy the textil to do same bag to sleep?
This is interesting that I have not thought about. Thank you.
I can barely use cell phones anymore they have to be outside my house when I sleep I don't have any other types of technology in my house because I can physically feel them on my body and it causes me a lot of pain how do I create a room where I can block it out completely from outside sources other people's Wi-Fi and stuff it's not even worth living like this and I've even contemplated suicide many times
Me Too Everyday I want to die this is unbearable and no one else in my home is experiencing this,Ive lost access to use all devices,7 cell phones,2ipds,1laptop all ddos me off. Smal black particles are all over my home, not sure where they are coming from yet they burn perfect circles of holes in my clothes. I am living in hell,they have taken over my orivacy and my life. My deoression from this abuse is unbearable. I cant make report on line as I get blocked from sibmitting. This is Pure EVIL. What do we do? I know there is powet in numbers this has to stop. Its desrtroyed ME. Please stay strong yet lets make plan make this abuse stop. Sending Prayers t Everyon
i'm there with you..i get horrible cramps and twitching/insomnia if i'm around it(rf) for too long..there are wifi blocking sheets you can buy(they are pretty expensive)but you could hang them on your walls or around your bed..i'm in the same boat..
You can do the same with a metal enclosure. Pay a visit to the supermarket to figure out which one fits your needs.
Would two layers of aluminum foil and a ziploc baggie so the same thing?
If you were trying to test whether or not the bag blocks the phone’s ability to receive GPS, your Find My Friends test doesn’t really show that. What you are seeing with your Find My Friends test is the phone is not updating the service with its position. I would guess that the bag does block GPS, but you need to see if the phone is getting a GPS lock while in the bag to verify that. One possible way you could do that by opening a GPS app on the phone, connect a display cable to the phone, hook up some form of an external display, and then stick the phone in the bag with the cable running out.
You are absolutely correct. One of my Patrons pointed this out to me yesterday. I didn't think about it before releasing the video.
@@KM4ACK glad you’re already aware. That’s exactly why peer review is a thing. Thanks for the videos!
I would propose that a shielded video connector cable may act as a decent antenna. I would suggest driving while using the phone as guidance with the volume at maximum... surely the bag isn't soundproof, right? Google Maps will preserve its map data on the device when internet is lost, so long as you don't deviate from the route.
What does it do to the battery life of the phone? I know one of the locations i worked had no cell service and my phone would constantly search for signal killing the battery. I would be interested to see if it blocks NFC so i could put my wallet in the bag for travel. I hate having an NFC card.
I didn't test NFC so I can't say. For phone battery life, I would turn the phone off before putting it in the bag. This would also eliminate potential for overheating. I only left it on so I could show the test results.
@@KM4ACK If you're turning the phone off before putting it in the bag, then do you need the bag? You could put it in airplane mode to remove the battery draining issue.
@@kevinowens4963 Not that we are high level spies or anything, but Snowden claimed the intelligence services could activate camera, mic and tracking on your phone when turned off. Not many phones where it is easy to remove the battery anymore.
What about v2k???
Did yo test airplane mode? It should do similar things to the transmitted signals.
Airplane mode is a software solution. We have no way of proving 100% certain it can't be disabled remotely and therefore re-enabling the radios. I miss the days of being able to remove the battery. Until a phone is released that has hardware switches for each radio in the phone, I like the RF blocking bag better than relying on a software solution. Thanks for leaving the comment. I am a huge fan of your channel!
Your Pi image runs on my Pi. I am currently playing around with Fldigi to support my CW QSOs. Saved me a lot of work! Thank you.
Hey the guy with a Switzerland accent! 🤣 you can get a lot of good content about Raspberry from this ham guy!
In airplane mode, GPS, WIFI, and Bluetooth can all still work. So it doesn't prevent signals from going out.
@@KM4ACK Isn't there a Linux phone out there with hard switches? Did you do a vid on them? Learned about 'em somewhere. Limited supply, probably not many of them out. Very economical too--if you can get one.
Agree brother.
also with my experience with these devices even if the batteries are removed or unplugged like a flat screen TV and stuff I can feel the energy off of them days even Weeks later a cell phone with a battery removed still operates for a while the ones without removable batteries good luck because they're always running
This does not stop location tracking, audio recording. Or other peoples devices tracking you
I need something for my entire RV. Don't mind installing it to my outside walls ceilings and floor
Is this $23 bag able to do anything more than what you could do with a piece of aluminum foil?
No
I'm not sure on this product, if a HT can receive on it, then an EMP would kill the device in there too i think.
Just turn on aeroplane mode, that should stop every wireless communication. I however don't know if that also applies to Apple products but I expect it would be the same.
I think it would be good to protect passports, credit cards and access cards etc. I have a travel shielded wallet but never tried an actual test on it though.
some frequencys go threw everything
cell phones can also produce frequencies that can affect people's moods and health
Copper wire mesh over 100 preferably 200 mesh does the trick. You can solder the seams and have a flap. Stick that in a mylar bag and your good to go. If worried about EMP just have an alligator clip to ground. You can also cut the mesh and form into a round and solder that to metal can lids to seal them against RF. So far none of the commercial gimmicks I have found to be effective and they wear out quickly under use.
Jason, why not just turn the device off and turn it back on when needed? Great info, though.
Because we really don't have an off switch on modern phones. The "power off" is a software switch and we can't remove the battery from most phones these days. Without a hardware on/off switch or removing the battery, there is no guarantee the phone is actually off to the point that it is impossible to turn it back on remotely or have apps still listening/tracking in the background.
You say "most phones," which may be true. If you focus on cheap smartphones, however, I think you'll find many can still have the battery removed. As the phone losses it's cellular connection it will automatically boost power to search for a tower. I would love to see how long it takes for the battery to do insure that bag compared to outside, if you would consider doing such a test. 73, AC9TW
Darn autocorrect, I'll correct the typos when I get to a PC. Thanks for another interesting video!
Try NFC or sharing a contact via airdrop.
The only thing you missed testing was Bluetooth, I know some retail stores use that to follow you.
How?
"You can't block the signal, Mal... " - Mr. Universe, Serenity
What is HT stand for?
Handy Talkie. handheld radio
Just out of curiosity, has anyone tried the potato chip bag like Sarah Conner did in the latest Terminator movie?
All you have shown is that the cell phone is unable to transmit data out of the bag. Nothing in this demonstration shows that the signals are bocked sufficiently to prevent the phone receiving GPS data, storing it, and then transmitting once removed.
Correct. This was pointed out earlier and more testing is needed for the GPS. I expect it to block GPS as well though since GPS is the weakest of the signals compared to cellular & wifi.
Can’t find GPS or block on my vehicle?
ill put my radio inside.. to avoid hf noise
I am being unwillingly and non-consensually subjected to both Remote Neural Monitoring and Remote Neural Manipulation and I have been so for more than twenty years. I do not know who is Remote Neural Monitoring me or who is remote neural manipulating me and I don't know why they are doing so and I also don't know why members of the Irish government has not put a stop to it because it is a highly illegal act. At approximately 4.50 am on Sunday morning, 14th May, 2023 the muscles of my bowel were manipulated to move against my will by means of Remote Neural Manipulation. Various muscles in my body are often manipulated to move against my will because remote muscle movement is one of the capabilities of Remote Neural Manipulation. What is the legal name and the current legal address and the current location and the current occupation of the individual or individuals who caused the muscles of my bowel to move by remote means on this aforementioned occasion. A few minutes later, at fifteen minutes past five a placed this information on line only to be answered by a voice to skull direct communication message which said the following "I can't accept this". My response to that message is what is the legal name, permanent legal address, current location and current occupation of the individual who said "I can't accept this" and why can you not accept it.
My name is Grtta Fahey and my postal address is Newbrook, Claremorris, Co. Mayo, Eircode F12 Y560, Republic of Ireland. I have published my name and address here because a crime is being carried out against me and I am asking for the names of all those who are carrying it out and I am also asking for the names of all of those who organised to have this crime carried out against me.
You use iron
ANY KIND OF ASHES IS GREAT TO, MAYBE BETTER.
Should do a video of upstairs downstairs apartment and one spying g and hacking cell phones
Good video 👍
Chud M1PUP QTH London
You can do the same thing with Tin Foil = A FACT
Why not just simply switch the phone off....
As software developer i wanna say. Forget it! Just accepted the fact you tracked all time.
Or maybe donate some money to EFF and use it and other tools of democracy to legislate against this intrusiveness that should be illegal, even for law enforcement without a warrant? Or the equivalent if you live in another country besides the US.
No thanks 🤡
Mr Faraday??
Not all phones turns off the BT in flight mode, so just turn off the phone, is 100% secure...
You could also just turn your location services and data sharing off? 🤷🏻♂️
Or buy that dorky bag... whatever.
Each has to make their own choice. I’ll stick with the bag. ua-cam.com/video/okMixdl4HH4/v-deo.html
I like your videos but I have to say, you look like an off brand Robert Downey Jr.
If only my videos made 1/4 of the money of his films :-)
KM4ACK I have some questions for you about some of this stuff. Can we chat??