This was to address Delta Burke's real life weight gain so they wrote it into Suzanne's storyline. The media was so cruel to Delta, little did they know that she was trying to kick an addiction to diet pills and was finally getting treatment for her depression with antidepressants both of which contributed to her weight gain. The funny thing is even though she did put on some weight during seasons 3 and 4 of Designing Women she really wasn't all that big. Especially by today's standards. Slim or not Delta was always a very beautiful woman, one of the most beautiful to ever appear on TV.
I'm almost forty, and I still remember being a kid in the 1980s and seeing the tabloids and how mean they were to Delta Burke because of her weight. You would have thought she was a murderer.
I love that Gerald McRaney has loved her through it all . I have gained almost 15 pounds since menopause and it is a daily struggle with my self esteem. it is 2023 and this is still an issue.
@@nata3467You ever see them together in the TV movie Going for Broke? They have real chemistry. Also, you ever see the one early Simpsons episode where the phony psychic predicted that they would soon divorce? Wrong-a-roo. 😂
@@PrincessofPower84Those "They used to be beautiful and now they're not. Isn't it just SAD?!" articles. Yeah. I hate seeing stuff like that. It's bullying. Bullying for the entire world to see and gossip about. Petty and mean.
Different People wrong, she was plus sized and carried it well. The wardrobe people just used clothing to overly emphasize her weight. But when you see her in her robe in her house, you see she’s not nearly as obese as the wardrobe people made her out to be. Believe me, the clothes I wear make me look much fatter than I am. My boobs are HUGE. “I” cup breasts and I use bigger clothes to de emphasize that. I don’t want the attention that huge breasts attracts. I hate form fitting clothes, always have. I don’t wear clothes to advertise my body to catch a man. Most women do, even though they vehemently deny it( how else do you expect women to react when caught dead to rights🙄). I dress for comfort, so to hell with what people think. But anyway, Susanne wasn’t as fat as the audience was led to think.
Mhmm... she’s on the line between curving and fat. People are so overweight these days today’s “curvy” is yesterday’s “fat” and today’s fat is yesterday’s obese.
Suzanne is BEAUTIFUL!!! And that purple nightgown thing she had on was GORGEOUS on her! She looks like Elizabeth Taylor-such a beauty. I wanted to tell off all of those fat shaming jerks. They dealt with this even in the 80s.
In this episode yes she was curvy. But in real life her weight did get out of control and the tabloids and media were just harsh about it. She was still lovely and even in the 90's it was rough.
EXACTLY!👍👍Delta was a Big Beautiful Woman (BBW) My Favorite size women.Miss Burke had that Distracting Beauty that if a man was talking too her,he would forget what the conversation was about..like huh! oh yeah! LOL😂😂😂 I had a HUGE L❤VE Crush on Delta Burke as a teen in the early and late 80s.She was Blazin'🔥
@@anthonyjolly6689 Wow 🤩 I can imagine you with your crush! 😂😂😂 One thing that I can say for sure was that she was very confident. It’s sad that Hollywood destroyed her confidence, as she is a beautiful person.
She DID get bigger as she get older. That happens to a LOT of women. It happened to me, but I was always a big girl anyway . Looking at old pics now though, I wish I was that "fat" now.
Compared to Julia and Mary Jo, Suzanne was curvy even at her slenderest. Nor was Charlene ever thin, but I think her height and high heels elongated her body so we didn't take notice. All four were elegant, well-dressed, attractive women whose genetics determined a lot of their physical attributes. This episode put the topic of fat-shaming front and center, maybe for the first time in a sitcom. It got a lot of attention at the time and continues to resonate with viewers.
@e causey ....It's quite pathetic to see these catty women---over 30 with children of their own---still engaging in cheap ladies room trash talk involving fat-shaming and ridicule.....proving they never matured beyond high school themselves. At least that one guy who ran his mouth could fall back on the excuse he was drunk. The women there appeared to be totally sober.
True, JS is rather tall while DB is short, so its definitely more noticeable. JS was never a thin girl either but her elongated figure made it easier for her appear to be slender.
dixie carter what a underappreciated actress she deserved an emmy several times over. This was an exqusite epidsode addrressing what it is like to struggle with weight and how you are treated because of it!
"People are gonna forget you 10 minutes after you die" hits home so much more now that I'm at an age where losing friends and family members has become a lot more common.
I wish this video would have contained Suzanne's speech at the end of this episode. It is one of my favorite, if not my absolute favorite, moments of the series.
Well, of course. People have always dealt with the stigma attached to being fat. It's not a new thing. It's just that back then, so few people were fat that most people didn't really know about these things if they didn't live it themselves.
Thank you for saying that, sir. It's oftentimes that people in the fitness world (trainers, models, etc.) tend to have a rather critical and unsympathetic ear towards overweight/obese people.
@@PrincessofPower84 No problem. I got into fitness modelling I was obese and people would laugh at the gym, at first, when I started to train. However, when I won my first award for Fitness Modelling. They stopped laughing. I know and feel exactly how Suzanne felt in this episode. People are effin' cruel, sometimes. I never, never forget where I came from and those who believed in me.
This was mine and my mama's fav show in the 80's. I was 16 when this episode aired. It broke my heark because you could see Delta wasn't just acting, it was her story. ❤
Powerful episode. Media was an ass to delta and very unfriendly about her weight gain which was greatly exaggerated. It was an episode of her thumbing her nose at the world.
I agree. What Julia said to Suzanne is so true. Julia"Most people are coasting along on phony public relations. Money, Social position,looks, bigger house, saying that Will make them happy. Or making out that their Marriages or Children are better than they are. When you are gone, people gone to forget you 10 minutes after you are gone. What is true and truly felt is what's important and how we treated each other. That's what is important."
Now that I am older this hurts to watch. knowing she was treated this way in real life by the show makes me sick. I was a child but I remember even kids know right from wrong !!
"In the end, it doesn't matter what anyone thinks about you. People are gonna forget you about 10 minutes after you die. The point is that you have to be exactly who and what you want to be. Most everybody is coasting along on phony public relations. People who say being beautiful, or rich or thin makes them happy. People who are trying to make their marriages or their children seem better than they actually are. And for what? Appearances? Appearances don't count for diddly! When its all said and done, all that counts, is what was true and truly felt and how we treated one another. And that's it!" Great advice, maybe even more so today than ever!
Even before Delta's "weight gain" I'm watching an episode right now where they are using all types of devices to hide her body. Either she's behind the mini-bar at the business, or she's seated with a pillow on her lap, or she's carrying a book in front of her, or on the sofa with a shawl over her. At the same time, Jean Smart is approximately the same size, yet no effort is made to cloak her body.
the biggest mistake the Thomason's made was to not resolve the issues with Delta Burke and let her go from this show. SHE was the best thing about the show and in these scenes, she really showed her acting chops. It did not matter that she had gained some weight from season to season. She was still beautiful, and so funny. I still feel that if they had worked things out with Delta, that Jean Smart would have stayed on too. They basically torpedoed the show when they let Delta go. That season with Julia Duffy was just painful. It was not her fault since they wrote the character to be so unlikeable, and she was just not Delta.
Sad but true. People get so wrapped up in their own legacy. But most of the people who knew you will forget about you almost immediately. In a generation or two there will be no one who even knew you, so you won't even be a memory. You'll be this person in old family photos who no one recognizes.
Suzanne was my favorite. I never liked how her weight became fodder for some of her storylines. I even thought the character Julia could be a little rough on her at times.
Julia was rough on everyone though. She wasn't written to be a delicate flower which Is the reason why she's the president of The Sugarbakers and Suzanne is Vice president and all that imply.
This dialogue is still very relevant now. Ppl place alot of importance on size and they are cruel and they fat shame all the time and I hate that. If anyone fat shames me and even if they are my best friend for years I will severe all ties with that person and never say the reason they will just never see me again. Ever. They will never be able to come back from that no matter how much they apologise.
It sickens me that a show that she helped to make such a success, turned on her like starving jackals. They all approved of making her the laughing stock, for what?? Her dress size? This was the beginning of the end of her friendship with Dixie Carter and Annie Potts. They never once asked if she was OK. She told them she didn't like this story line but they went forward with it. Humiliating her publicly. Fat shaming is still acceptable bullying. No one ever says you shouldn't say it or do it. Just make fun of the fat person. It's cruel. Delta Burke was beautiful then and she's beautiful now. Dixie Carter should have been ashamed for how she attacked her "best friend". That's how Delta thought of Dixie. Turns out Jean Smart and Meshach Taylor were her friends.
@@Bebs1675 if you looked at black woman characters who had curves, in the 80s n 90s, you'd see that it was indeed the stylist's fault. Delta needed a stylist who knew how to dress curvy bodies because this wasn't it.
She isn't fat at all. People can be so critical towards other's. Since childhood I was always criticized. No matter what I said or did or how I looked, I was always someone main focus just to be bullied. This happened in school with the kids, it happened at home with the step parants, & it happened even with people I never knew. To be honest im 60 years old now and I still see people giving me critical looks and laughter. No I'm not imagining it. I see it with my own eye's. And for everyone else who is facing this kind of behavior, I'm so sorry that you do. But just know their typical behavior says a lot about them & their the ones who need mental help, not you.
I never thought Suzanne was fat. Some of the billowy clothes she wore made her look thick around the waist, but she simply never looked fat. And she wasn't dumb. She did alot of work for their business.
My husband has always said that Delta Burke was one of the most beautiful women alive. I never really thought she was all that "big", myself. Or if she was , she carried it very well.
I'm loving these little snippets from old shows! For this one, I was sure it was going to end with Julia's big dramatic speech, ending in something like "And that's when lights when out in Georgia!!" Must have been another episode. :)
I think Suzanne got the prize for being the most changed or something. Anyway she got up and made a speech about her weight and I think she put those idiots in their places!
Delta Burke has an endomorph body type and it hasn't been until recently that the media has been inclusive of all three of the main most common body types- these were the dark ages. They used to force expectations of the lean and thin appearance of an ectomorph and mezomorph then expect an endomorph to adhere to this impossible standard. Endomorphs naturally have bigger frames and slower metabolisms, it's genetic.
I used to be skinny when I was younger. My nickname was olive oil when I was younger. Lol. Now I weigh a little over two hundred pounds. I like having weight on me. I don't want to be real skinny. I want to eat healthier, and I need to workout more. But even then I don't want to be a toothpick.
I was skinny at one point n high school I weight about 150 something. At prom my dress was xs smh. N please follow me on UA-cam too at #DisneyDiva and thank you and be safe and sound.
Your comment has filled me with such joy because I am currently just over 200 and am hating myself. I am on psych meds because I got sick and I still won’t give myself a break. Hearing you talk about loving your body has given me something to reflect on.
I Was Born In 81’ I Had A Big Crush 😍 On Delta Since My Earlier Childhood Years Through My Teen Years And Adult Hood. I Used To Watch This Show All Of The Time Back In The 80’s They Don’t Make Good Shows Like This Anymore TAKE ME BACK TO THE 80’s PLEASEEEEEE!! 🤧
I think during this time, Jean Smart was pregnant in real life (as was Charlene on the show) & except for some brief one-scene appearances in a few episodes (Julia & Suzanne's Big Adventure, Manhunt & You Got To Have Friends), she was probably taking some time off to prepare for her baby's birth. But it was almost like the writers made it seem like Julia allowed Charlene to step back from work at Sugarbaker's as she neared her due date (Charlene would often appear to work half-days before leaving early for an appointment or stopping in on an off-day before going to one). Jean/Charlene was absent altogether from this episode, perhaps because it fell around Jean's delivery date. You Got To Have Friends comes after this, so was probably taped earlier & saved for a later airing. She was back for the 1-hour New Year's Day episode First Day Of The Last Decade Of The Twentieth Century (where Charlene gives birth to Olivia; had to feel interesting to act pregnant again after she had already done it in real life). She probably had had plenty of time for maternity leave & was able to come back full-time. I say that because this episode would have been interesting to have had some character input from Charlene on the whole weight-gain issue, especially as she was doing so for pregnancy. As well, Charlene could have even offered some advice (in her unique way) to Suzanne about the insults she received. Just an interesting "What if?" proposition.
Susanne also doesn't look that flattering in that outfit, especially when everyone else is wearing more tight clothes. she's gorgeous just wearing the wrong shape for her body . But she's right- it's still 2022 and people are still judgemental about weight and looks. The message in this episode still stands .
Yep. Nowadays, Delta would be considered ideal. But back in the 1980s, being a thin hardbody was ideal. I recall during that era, my mom maniacally doing aerobics & my aunt popping diet pills because of how badly women got shamed if they put on a few pounds. Totally different times... I think Delta looks beautiful in that purple nightgown.
People are very, very cruel. It is natural and common for ALL people to gain at least some weight as they get older. Metabolism slows down; growth hormone decreases, sugar isn't metabolized as well anymore, arthritis or other illnesses make it difficult to exercise, etc. Besides I believe that the human body puts on weight as a person ages as a method of making certain the body has stores of energy to draw from when a person does get ill with age. All my life, I have seen very thin people get an illness with age and because they have no fat reserves at all, they go down very, very quickly. If a person has some stored fat, the body can pull from that to maintain essential functions and believe me, it will. People can lose a lot of weight in the hospital during a lengthy illness and if they have no fat to begin with, the body shuts down. It is a lie that the medical industry and the fashion industry is largely responsible for pushing. It is NOT healthier to be thin, especially as a person ages.
Dang! She's not even that big by 2022 standards and she looks beautiful,,,,half those people making fun of her are not very slender themselves,,,, this is soo weird!
Suzanne always looked good to me! The finest of the four women. I hate white beauty standards. Where I come from she's not even considered fat but "thick" 😛
DB really wasn't that overweight at this point; bear in mind she was never a thin girl. I just think there was something very cruel about this entire storyline!
Years later and society still has not changed. If you are a woman and overweight, people still put you down. Social media just spreads it. Even those who are on a “Christian” platform. Where is the compassion and respect for others? Walsh person who did the documentary on What is a Woman? Had no problem putting down a plus size woman. He and others like him, you only get compassion and respect when you fit into that perfect little box the world has created.
Weight or not, she was still the most beautiful woman in that room. I mean god forbid a person gains some weight. It's called life. It happens to a lot of human beings 🙄
I rememeber being conflicted about this episode. Yes, I loved Suzanne and it was sad to see her hurt that way, but while she was thin, she regularly mocked women who weren't on her level of beauty, including Mary Jo, who who was less glamorous, but definitely as beautiful. Suzanne got a small taste of her own medicine. This episode wanted us to forget that.
This was to address Delta Burke's real life weight gain so they wrote it into Suzanne's storyline. The media was so cruel to Delta, little did they know that she was trying to kick an addiction to diet pills and was finally getting treatment for her depression with antidepressants both of which contributed to her weight gain. The funny thing is even though she did put on some weight during seasons 3 and 4 of Designing Women she really wasn't all that big. Especially by today's standards. Slim or not Delta was always a very beautiful woman, one of the most beautiful to ever appear on TV.
You forgot to add that she still is.
Well-put. I'm watching an episode right now. Delta was so beautiful and funny. It's heartbreaking the way the network and show producers treated her.
It's so crazy that they made this episode, yet they, too, we're cruel to her about her weight.
Delta has never been unpretty. She looks great no Matt what size she is.
I love Delta Burke!!! This was the best comedy show on tv!!!!
I'm almost forty, and I still remember being a kid in the 1980s and seeing the tabloids and how mean they were to Delta Burke because of her weight. You would have thought she was a murderer.
I remember that too and I was so confused when I was younger. Today it just infuriates me.
It reminds me of what they did to Liz Taylor, Kirstie Alley and Jessica Simpson.
I love that Gerald McRaney has loved her through it all . I have gained almost 15 pounds since menopause and it is a daily struggle with my self esteem. it is 2023 and this is still an issue.
@@nata3467You ever see them together in the TV movie Going for Broke? They have real chemistry. Also, you ever see the one early Simpsons episode where the phony psychic predicted that they would soon divorce? Wrong-a-roo. 😂
@@PrincessofPower84Those "They used to be beautiful and now they're not. Isn't it just SAD?!" articles. Yeah. I hate seeing stuff like that. It's bullying. Bullying for the entire world to see and gossip about. Petty and mean.
she wasnt even ''fat'' here at all little curvy but not fat.
Agree..The Hollywood stigma...
Different People wrong, she was plus sized and carried it well. The wardrobe people just used clothing to overly emphasize her weight. But when you see her in her robe in her house, you see she’s not nearly as obese as the wardrobe people made her out to be. Believe me, the clothes I wear make me look much fatter than I am. My boobs are HUGE. “I” cup breasts and I use bigger clothes to de emphasize that. I don’t want the attention that huge breasts attracts. I hate form fitting clothes, always have. I don’t wear clothes to advertise my body to catch a man. Most women do, even though they vehemently deny it( how else do you expect women to react when caught dead to rights🙄). I dress for comfort, so to hell with what people think. But anyway, Susanne wasn’t as fat as the audience was led to think.
Mhmm... she’s on the line between curving and fat. People are so overweight these days today’s “curvy” is yesterday’s “fat” and today’s fat is yesterday’s obese.
But tbf for a beauty queen, she was “fat”. For a normal person she was just fine!
Why the fuck are men commenting on this....
I am a full figured woman and the first swimsuit I ever bought was from Her clothing line and I loved it
Delta is such a Beauty. Weight is difficult, will never understand why people are so cruel. She is a total beauty.
Suzanne is BEAUTIFUL!!! And that purple nightgown thing she had on was GORGEOUS on her! She looks like Elizabeth Taylor-such a beauty. I wanted to tell off all of those fat shaming jerks. They dealt with this even in the 80s.
What she's wearing in the second half of this clip is called a peignoir.
In this episode yes she was curvy. But in real life her weight did get out of control and the tabloids and media were just harsh about it. She was still lovely and even in the 90's it was rough.
She wasn’t fat. She had a curvy shape. She was a beautiful person.
EXACTLY!👍👍Delta was a Big Beautiful Woman (BBW) My Favorite size women.Miss Burke had that Distracting Beauty that if a man was talking too her,he would forget what the conversation was about..like huh! oh yeah! LOL😂😂😂 I had a HUGE L❤VE Crush on Delta Burke as a teen in the early and late 80s.She was Blazin'🔥
@@anthonyjolly6689 Wow 🤩 I can imagine you with your crush! 😂😂😂 One thing that I can say for sure was that she was very confident. It’s sad that Hollywood destroyed her confidence, as she is a beautiful person.
She DID get bigger as she get older. That happens to a LOT of women. It happened to me, but I was always a big girl anyway . Looking at old pics now though, I wish I was that "fat" now.
@@karenmccord9488 🙄🙄🙄🙄
No, she was indeed overweight
Compared to Julia and Mary Jo, Suzanne was curvy even at her slenderest. Nor was Charlene ever thin, but I think her height and high heels elongated her body so we didn't take notice. All four were elegant, well-dressed, attractive women whose genetics determined a lot of their physical attributes. This episode put the topic of fat-shaming front and center, maybe for the first time in a sitcom. It got a lot of attention at the time and continues to resonate with viewers.
@e causey ....It's quite pathetic to see these catty women---over 30 with children of their own---still engaging in cheap ladies room trash talk involving fat-shaming and ridicule.....proving they never matured beyond high school themselves. At least that one guy who ran his mouth could fall back on the excuse he was drunk. The women there appeared to be totally sober.
True, JS is rather tall while DB is short, so its definitely more noticeable. JS was never a thin girl either but her elongated figure made it easier for her appear to be slender.
She looked her best here. This is what was considered fat 30 years ago. Lmao!
Today its considered thin, ha!
She wasn’t even chunky imo not thin but no where close to fat
dixie carter what a underappreciated actress she deserved an emmy several times over. This was an exqusite epidsode addrressing what it is like to struggle with weight and how you are treated because of it!
"People are gonna forget you 10 minutes after you die" hits home so much more now that I'm at an age where losing friends and family members has become a lot more common.
I wish this video would have contained Suzanne's speech at the end of this episode. It is one of my favorite, if not my absolute favorite, moments of the series.
me too a CLASSIC !
Its on youtube
Suzanne DID let those mean bitches have it, with that great speech she gave them.
I agree
Of course the clip I'd cut short
I love that she not only talks about physical but social appearances, a true reality check for a lot of people
I want to remind people this speech by Suzanne is the invisible pain of "fat shaming" . They even dealt with this in the 80s.
Well, of course. People have always dealt with the stigma attached to being fat. It's not a new thing. It's just that back then, so few people were fat that most people didn't really know about these things if they didn't live it themselves.
The 80s was when diets and diet fads was at its highest ...aerobics jazzersize Richard Simmons, millions of diet pills came out and video tapes.
@@LisaCupcake There were plenty of fat people in the 80s, just like there are now. Like you said, people have always been fat shamed.
Thank you for saying that, sir. It's oftentimes that people in the fitness world (trainers, models, etc.) tend to have a rather critical and unsympathetic ear towards overweight/obese people.
@@PrincessofPower84 No problem. I got into fitness modelling I was obese and people would laugh at the gym, at first, when I started to train. However, when I won my first award for Fitness Modelling. They stopped laughing. I know and feel exactly how Suzanne felt in this episode. People are effin' cruel, sometimes. I never, never forget where I came from and those who believed in me.
You could always count on Dixie to set you straight!! Skinny or not so skinny Delta is still a beautiful woman..
She will always be one of the most beautiful women in America in my book..
So much truth in this. All the crap people do for appearances and it doesn’t matter. How we treat one another...THAT matters!!
Like the Golden Girls, Designing Women touched on a lot of serious topics and situations and those were some of the best episodes.
God, this is so heartbreaking.
It really is. 😞
Even better is the awards ceremony at the end. Delta's performance in that scene alone is Emmy-caliber.
In a gay male and people were much meaner when I gained weight.
She wasn’t even fat imo. We have come a long way
@@ericandy88 Yes😥
This was mine and my mama's fav show in the 80's. I was 16 when this episode aired. It broke my heark because you could see Delta wasn't just acting, it was her story. ❤
Powerful episode. Media was an ass to delta and very unfriendly about her weight gain which was greatly exaggerated. It was an episode of her thumbing her nose at the world.
I loved their on screen and off screen relationship..
Suzanne is beautiful. Unbelievable how cruel and petty people are. It's only gotten worse. Far worse.
Absolutely love Julia’s words of wisdom, especially in this clip. ❤️
I agree. What Julia said to Suzanne is so true.
Julia"Most people are coasting along on phony public relations. Money, Social position,looks, bigger house, saying that
Will make them happy.
Or making out that their
Marriages or Children are better than they are. When you are gone, people gone to forget you 10 minutes after you are gone. What is true and truly felt is what's important and how we treated each other. That's what is important."
Yeah, she followed the script perfectly, didn't she? She didn't come up with any of that on her own, you know.
I wish that Suzanne had not left the show! Her size didn’t matter, Delta Burke is amazing playing this part!
Unfortunately delta was struggling with depression that's why she made the decision to leave the show
Now that I am older this hurts to watch. knowing she was treated this way in real life by the show makes me sick. I was a child but I remember even kids know right from wrong !!
Suzanne and Julia frequently bickered and made fun of one-another, but each was there for the other when it truly mattered.
Julia was right. Some people are only skinny because they don't eat or they barely eat, and that isn't good for nobody.
"In the end, it doesn't matter what anyone thinks about you. People are gonna forget you about 10 minutes after you die. The point is that you have to be exactly who and what you want to be. Most everybody is coasting along on phony public relations. People who say being beautiful, or rich or thin makes them happy. People who are trying to make their marriages or their children seem better than they actually are. And for what? Appearances? Appearances don't count for diddly! When its all said and done, all that counts, is what was true and truly felt and how we treated one another. And that's it!" Great advice, maybe even more so today than ever!
Even before Delta's "weight gain" I'm watching an episode right now where they are using all types of devices to hide her body. Either she's behind the mini-bar at the business, or she's seated with a pillow on her lap, or she's carrying a book in front of her, or on the sofa with a shawl over her. At the same time, Jean Smart is approximately the same size, yet no effort is made to cloak her body.
the biggest mistake the Thomason's made was to not resolve the issues with Delta Burke and let her go from this show. SHE was the best thing about the show and in these scenes, she really showed her acting chops. It did not matter that she had gained some weight from season to season. She was still beautiful, and so funny. I still feel that if they had worked things out with Delta, that Jean Smart would have stayed on too. They basically torpedoed the show when they let Delta go. That season with Julia Duffy was just painful. It was not her fault since they wrote the character to be so unlikeable, and she was just not Delta.
This was and will always be a great clip of a wonderfully written show performed by fantastic actors. It's a gift 💗
Delta Burke has always been so beautiful to me!! Just stunning!!
She truly is!
This is one of the MOST epic scenes ever..... "People are gonna forget about you about 10 minutes after you die!" Holy CRAP!!
Sad but true. People get so wrapped up in their own legacy. But most of the people who knew you will forget about you almost immediately. In a generation or two there will be no one who even knew you, so you won't even be a memory. You'll be this person in old family photos who no one recognizes.
Fat, slim or curvey didn't matter
Delta is a beautiful lady in my eyes
Bless Delta x ♡
This was such a powerful episode. I'm so glad it was made. Poor Suzanne and poor Delta.
Suzanne was my favorite. I never liked how her weight became fodder for some of her storylines. I even thought the character Julia could be a little rough on her at times.
Julia was rough on everyone though. She wasn't written to be a delicate flower which Is the reason why she's the president of The Sugarbakers and Suzanne is Vice president and all that imply.
Poor Suzanne. But you know what? Even if her figure has changed, she is still a gorgeous woman
She certainly looked prettier than some of the women making jokes about her weight.
@@kenthuang436 Indeed
Crazy. Bigger, curvy and hot were not compatible back then
I've always thought she was perfection. She floats.
Delta Burke is always beautiful! ❤️
This dialogue is still very relevant now. Ppl place alot of importance on size and they are cruel and they fat shame all the time and I hate that. If anyone fat shames me and even if they are my best friend for years I will severe all ties with that person and never say the reason they will just never see me again. Ever. They will never be able to come back from that no matter how much they apologise.
This was such a good show full of truth, wisdom and keen insight. 📺 There'll never be another show quite like it.
This is such a treasure for all women out there. Should be required viewing....
It sickens me that a show that she helped to make such a success, turned on her like starving jackals. They all approved of making her the laughing stock, for what?? Her dress size? This was the beginning of the end of her friendship with Dixie Carter and Annie Potts. They never once asked if she was OK. She told them she didn't like this story line but they went forward with it. Humiliating her publicly.
Fat shaming is still acceptable bullying. No one ever says you shouldn't say it or do it. Just make fun of the fat person. It's cruel.
Delta Burke was beautiful then and she's beautiful now. Dixie Carter should have been ashamed for how she attacked her "best friend". That's how Delta thought of Dixie. Turns out Jean Smart and Meshach Taylor were her friends.
This video leaves out the heartfelt speech she gave at the end of the episode.
The stylist on this show did Delta dirty.
They were hating
She looks amazing in the purple lounging outfit.
It was the 80s. Plus sized clothing was made to hide bodies, not flatter them. But the suit Suzanne wore was considered hugh style back then
That is how the episode starts, she's complaining of the kind of clothes available for her weight and size.
@@Bebs1675 if you looked at black woman characters who had curves, in the 80s n 90s, you'd see that it was indeed the stylist's fault. Delta needed a stylist who knew how to dress curvy bodies because this wasn't it.
This is cruel! I remember hearing the producers were very meticulous about weight and looks! Julia's advice was very heartwarming!🙂
She isn't fat at all.
People can be so critical towards other's.
Since childhood I was always criticized.
No matter what I said or did or how I looked,
I was always someone main focus just to be bullied.
This happened in school with the kids, it happened at home with the step parants, & it happened even with people I never knew.
To be honest im 60 years old now and I still see people giving me critical looks and laughter.
No I'm not imagining it.
I see it with my own eye's.
And for everyone else who is facing this kind of behavior, I'm so sorry that you do.
But just know their typical behavior says a lot about them & their the ones who need mental help, not you.
Me too. I was bullied a lot because of the way I look.
I never thought Suzanne was fat. Some of the billowy clothes she wore made her look thick around the waist, but she simply never looked fat. And she wasn't dumb. She did alot of work for their business.
My husband has always said that Delta Burke was one of the most beautiful women alive. I never really thought she was all that "big", myself. Or if she was , she carried it very well.
I'm loving these little snippets from old shows! For this one, I was sure it was going to end with Julia's big dramatic speech, ending in something like "And that's when lights when out in Georgia!!" Must have been another episode. :)
I believe it was the beauty pageant one. Julia was telling off another former contestant about Suzanne's twirling fire batons
@@rocknroller77 Yes, love that one! I did end up seeing it here on this channel. Such a goosebumps moment! :)
While I love the snippets, I wish they would show full episodes. My all time favorite show.
@@chloecook4511 That would be awesome! I'd watch that! :)
I think Suzanne got the prize for being the most changed or something. Anyway she got up and made a speech about her weight and I think she put those idiots in their places!
Delta Burke has an endomorph body type and it hasn't been until recently that the media has been inclusive of all three of the main most common body types- these were the dark ages. They used to force expectations of the lean and thin appearance of an ectomorph and mezomorph then expect an endomorph to adhere to this impossible standard. Endomorphs naturally have bigger frames and slower metabolisms, it's genetic.
I used to be skinny when I was younger. My nickname was olive oil when I was younger. Lol. Now I weigh a little over two hundred pounds. I like having weight on me. I don't want to be real skinny. I want to eat healthier, and I need to workout more. But even then I don't want to be a toothpick.
I was skinny at one point n high school I weight about 150 something. At prom my dress was xs smh. N please follow me on UA-cam too at #DisneyDiva and thank you and be safe and sound.
@@MsDisneylandlover In High School I only weighed 120. I was ALWAYS a heavy eater, and there isn't anything wrong with that.
Your comment has filled me with such joy because I am currently just over 200 and am hating myself. I am on psych meds because I got sick and I still won’t give myself a break. Hearing you talk about loving your body has given me something to reflect on.
I can't find the right weight for me. I used to be a toothpick in middle school and high school then gained some idk what weight I'm supposed to be.
Such A beautiful woman and a funny actress. She was an icon before her time. Now, no one would say anything. so sad. I loved her!!!❤
Delta Burke was always pretty to me too.
Looking back, I can't believe she was made fun of her weight. The media acted like she was huge.
Yes, weight gain in celebs' is the cardinal sin.
Not drug use, cheating on spouses, anything that stars do on a regular basis.
I Was Born In 81’ I Had A Big Crush 😍 On Delta Since My Earlier Childhood Years Through My Teen Years And Adult Hood. I Used To Watch This Show All Of The Time Back In The 80’s They Don’t Make Good Shows Like This Anymore TAKE ME BACK TO THE 80’s PLEASEEEEEE!! 🤧
This was a great video, both gals were fantastic.
Thanks Ms. Sugarbaker, I needed to hear that today.
Every one is different but she a lovely person
I think during this time, Jean Smart was pregnant in real life (as was Charlene on the show) & except for some brief one-scene appearances in a few episodes (Julia & Suzanne's Big Adventure, Manhunt & You Got To Have Friends), she was probably taking some time off to prepare for her baby's birth. But it was almost like the writers made it seem like Julia allowed Charlene to step back from work at Sugarbaker's as she neared her due date (Charlene would often appear to work half-days before leaving early for an appointment or stopping in on an off-day before going to one).
Jean/Charlene was absent altogether from this episode, perhaps because it fell around Jean's delivery date. You Got To Have Friends comes after this, so was probably taped earlier & saved for a later airing. She was back for the 1-hour New Year's Day episode First Day Of The Last Decade Of The Twentieth Century (where Charlene gives birth to Olivia; had to feel interesting to act pregnant again after she had already done it in real life). She probably had had plenty of time for maternity leave & was able to come back full-time.
I say that because this episode would have been interesting to have had some character input from Charlene on the whole weight-gain issue, especially as she was doing so for pregnancy. As well, Charlene could have even offered some advice (in her unique way) to Suzanne about the insults she received. Just an interesting "What if?" proposition.
Susanne also doesn't look that flattering in that outfit, especially when everyone else is wearing more tight clothes. she's gorgeous just wearing the wrong shape for her body . But she's right- it's still 2022 and people are still judgemental about weight and looks. The message in this episode still stands .
She's not even that damn big!
You're telling me THAT was too big for them???
Yep. Nowadays, Delta would be considered ideal. But back in the 1980s, being a thin hardbody was ideal. I recall during that era, my mom maniacally doing aerobics & my aunt popping diet pills because of how badly women got shamed if they put on a few pounds.
Totally different times...
I think Delta looks beautiful in that purple nightgown.
That ending gave me goosebumps.
People are very, very cruel. It is natural and common for ALL people to gain at least some weight as they get older. Metabolism slows down; growth hormone decreases, sugar isn't metabolized as well anymore, arthritis or other illnesses make it difficult to exercise, etc. Besides I believe that the human body puts on weight as a person ages as a method of making certain the body has stores of energy to draw from when a person does get ill with age. All my life, I have seen very thin people get an illness with age and because they have no fat reserves at all, they go down very, very quickly. If a person has some stored fat, the body can pull from that to maintain essential functions and believe me, it will. People can lose a lot of weight in the hospital during a lengthy illness and if they have no fat to begin with, the body shuts down. It is a lie that the medical industry and the fashion industry is largely responsible for pushing. It is NOT healthier to be thin, especially as a person ages.
Good God, looking at this and the wonderful message it put out there, you still think to yourself, "This is what they called fat then???"
UA-cam - this showed up in the home page for me today. Thank you, I needed to see this!!
I feel her. I cried
Well said Julia, well said.
Dang! She's not even that big by 2022 standards and she looks beautiful,,,,half those people making fun of her are not very slender themselves,,,, this is soo weird!
Don’t go to your class reunion. That part of your life is over.
This made me cry. Bless her heart.
She looks 100 times more beautiful than the others, I can't understand!
I was confused too. I always thought she was gorgeous.
Suzanne always looked good to me! The finest of the four women. I hate white beauty standards. Where I come from she's not even considered fat but "thick" 😛
Beware the Eye I do not like that word. Thick means stupid.
@@tessdurberville711 No, thick means pleasantly plump, statuesque, zaftig, voluptuous...it's a compliment.
@@dabigdikdangler Yes, all of those words are compliments. We should keep using those, no need for new ones that have to be explained. :)
@@tessdurberville711 It's part of our culture to invent and refine colloquialisms, it showcases our humor and creativity.
@@dabigdikdangler And vulgarity, laziness and rebelliousness.
U are a beautiful woman don't let people degrade and discourage you.
The criminal aspect was someone who was/is as beautiful as Delta Burke, was considered fat? That speaks volumes about American society.
My opinion Suzanne is a babe in the series
She was still the prettiest women in the room.
WELL WELL SAID JULIA!!
DB really wasn't that overweight at this point; bear in mind she was never a thin girl. I just think there was something very cruel about this entire storyline!
Years later and society still has not changed. If you are a woman and overweight, people still put you down. Social media just spreads it. Even those who are on a “Christian” platform.
Where is the compassion and respect for others? Walsh person who did the documentary on What is a Woman? Had no problem putting down a plus size woman. He and others like him, you only get compassion and respect when you fit into that perfect little box the world has created.
He did?
Delta Burke was so beautiful. It’s so sad how we treat people.
Its amazing how people never mature the older they get the worse they get
You are right
Suzanne is not fat! She's curvy and beautiful!
Haha, why I never went to a reunion.
I had to go watch the whole episode on Hulu. 😁 That was a good one.
I guess for the 80s she was big in today’s society she would have been perfection
FABULOUS AND ABSOLUTE!!!
Weight or not, she was still the most beautiful woman in that room. I mean god forbid a person gains some weight. It's called life. It happens to a lot of human beings 🙄
I remember when this came out. The thing is no matter how big Delta Burke got, she was still one of the most beautiful women I had seen.
She’d have to gain a whole lotta weight to be fat in 2020. Note My 600# Life🤨
True.😁
I forgot how remarkable this show truly was.
I rememeber being conflicted about this episode. Yes, I loved Suzanne and it was sad to see her hurt that way, but while she was thin, she regularly mocked women who weren't on her level of beauty, including Mary Jo, who who was less glamorous, but definitely as beautiful. Suzanne got a small taste of her own medicine. This episode wanted us to forget that.
I remember that being true about Suzanne when she was slim , too. Karma definitely came to her later in life.
It is the point. She says it on her last speech. She became a better person.
And even today she is still married to Gerald Raney for 33 years
Even when Liz Taylor was still overweight, she was gorgeous. Delta too.
She was more beautiful than most could dream to be. That's why she was so reviled when her weight changed. People are envious morons.
I don't even think she's 'fat' here. Heavier than when the show started is the most I can see.
My goodness, THIS was fat?!
Wholy shyt. I was feeling nestalgic, and stumble upon this gem. Wow