@@eleazarhepburn6618exactly bro I say that all the time fuck hype buy what u like I’m glad the reselling is dying so everyone can get a paid not have to pay stupid prices
If this is "dying" let it die. Let the people that actually want the shoes get them. It's nice walking into a store and actually being able to get something I wanted.
@@jethrojacinto2798 i left the sneaker game 9 years ago. Ive worn outlet shoes and regular runners on sale since. “Fashion” becoming mainstream and resellers ruined it for me
Prices wont go down on retail. Thats wishful thinking. If Nike/JB want people to keep buying then they need to go back to using full grain leather for their shoes. We are paying a lot more for a lesser product.
Why do sneakerheads(by heart), fix something thats “broken” for resellers? Let the people have access to the products they want w/o having to pay resell.
I'm so glad the hype is dying down. Tired of every half decent shoe being sold out all the time in minutes. Maybe now people can actually wear their shoes.
Everything is returning to normal. It makes me nostalgic to go to my favorite Foot Locker near my house, see that they have the Jordan Retro 5 "Burgundy" available in piles, retail price that I can buy them without any kind of problem and keep on walking without any kind of problem like in the old days.
I got completely out of the sneaker game when I saw what happened with Kobe shoes. The line was at a place where they were widely available to all the real fans, then he tragically passed away and quickly people capitalized on his death. This was sickening to me. Then Nike comes out and says future releases will go to people with Kobe purchase history. I estimated I have around $7,000 of Kobe rated product purchases, dating back as far as 2005, yet I struck out on every release since his death. So I’m done. I will no longer support this company that doesn’t reward me for my commitment to their product and athlete.
Everytime I see a Complex video for sneaker "shopping" I'm reminded how its dying. You see the faces of these celebrities turn sour when they see the bill. Imagine the common folk trying to get into sneakers and being stonewalled with these crazy prices.
I'm in my early 40s, and I just can't bring myself to care about "hyped" shoes anymore. Give me a pair of 990 V6s and some sort of Nike to match all my MLB gear, and I'm good to go.
The downfall started when GOAT started sponsoring big youtubers with crazy sneakers in 2017 and then sneakers went mainstream. Same thing for streetwear like Supreme and Bape.
The problem is there’s collectors and there’s resellers. The language calls it The Market when it used to be a Culture (or subculture rather - derived from hip hop and skateboarding). I’m all for the crash. It just means the releases that real “Sneakerheads” Want to obtain are going to be easier. I love the days when I would actually be upset about taking an L at a lineup, rather than be frustrated that I might have to pick up my shoes for 2 to 3 times retail. When NikeTalk was not a market place, but rather a place to share and help others get their grails without the intent of profiting, just to be a good person and help a brother out
I honestly believe that the air Jordan ones ruined the sneaker market they saturated the market with so many colours ways and styles I used to love Jordan’s but now there just a generic band boring and overdone and overpriced
How is it "dying"????? People are wearing AJ 1S on the frakin News channels!! I saw Michael Symon wearing them!!! Footlockers cant hold onto Dunk low Pandas!!! How is it dying when LITTERLY EVERYONE is wearing AJs, and NMDs??????!!!???
I purchase top quality reps ($150-$180) for PERSONAL USE. I see it as dumb loyalty to pay $500-$1500 when a top rep (which often looks and has as good as or even better quality than retail. I would condemn scammers trying to sell reps as retails with inflated prices... but also, don't compare a rep shoe which has practical utility to a rep baseball card which is solely a collectors item.
I got into sneaker collecting when the Nike Tom sach GPS dropped(the yellow ones… I was late) then got a pair of the yellow, and brown ones. And now I’m an adidas guy, as far as shoes. But those new New Balance shoes you had on your channel, are NICE!
As on og sneaker head who started the journey in the mid 90s im hella happy that the market is hella over saturated to the point that everyone is a copy paste nike dunk/jordan1 / collab limited buyer, they flooded the market and its no longer "special" to be a sneaker head in their circle. As an og we are hella spoiled to the point that we can almost get every basketball sneaker that was lusted for as a child. From shaqnosis to the gp gloves Nike air bakins ndestruckts uptempo zoom95 foams fila hill, and1 tai chi you name it. And all these can easily be copped. So to the ones who hypebeast the hell outta the copy paste kicks in the game i never thought i woudo say this but thank you 🫡 from an og sneakerhead born in 86.
How to fix: Carbon footprint!??! Oh then the recycled shoes from Adidas should be selling off the shelves. Oh wait.. nope. That would not fix a single thing. Even some of the biggest investors just pulled out of ESG. The Adidas ocean shoes weren't even selling at the peak of sneakerhype.
No need to fix it. Let it die. Ridiculous that a GR release dunk would “resell” for 2-300 dollars. People that just want to wear their shoes will benefit from it dying.
I feel like hype beast culture has really made it hard for late game entry. I’m fairly new to collecting so I was buying a lot of older models and it was pretty smooth sailing 9/10 most older models were fairly priced, but God forbid I miss a current release and toy with the notion of looking on Goat or StockX it’s practically double retail an hour after the release and it takes some weeks sitting, if they do, before the prices level themselves out. Social media can really exasperate this feeling of having missed out so waiting for price stabilization tends to have a lot of people just pull the trigger so they’re not feeling left out making it harder for a reasonable aftermarket price to be achieved
I'm happy I woke up from this stupid addiction. It's one thing to actually be a collector by passion. But, a lot of people end up calling themselves "collectors" but they're actually hoarders who've became addicted to the hype. Myself use to be into this whole sneaker shit but when I went through my financial low it really opened my eyes. Ppl making bank on these shoes 8 times out of 10 is scamming in one way or another anyways. I hope others wake up.
oversaturation imo. we DONT need every colorway of the Jordan 1 or Jordan 3/4/5 😅. i’m just burnt out on so many sneakers releasing. not only Jordan’s but we got New Balance, Asics, Adidas, etc.
See Most Big Companies including Nike are manufacturing overseas so a lot of money is already going overseas for FS but I can’t believe how many people just overlook this critical “ problem “ in the supply chain lmfaoooo
Over Production. EVERY WEEK NEW RELEASE. with the same shoes.. only different colors. High Price increase $200 plus tax. RESELLERS. INFLATION. And ALMOST everybody already have a HUGE PILED OF collection of SHOES IN THEIR CABINET.. Too much shoes isn't that SMART anymore.. knowing you cant even USE THEN ALL. sitting on your room. And cant even sell them on a great value already on line. Almost everybody is done buying smeakers. TOO MUCH is NOT GOOD. 😔😔😔
Some people have never won a draw on SNKRS for a shoe they wanted. The rise in sneaker sales was from new blood but when they realize they aren’t allowed to bug a sneaker from the company that sells it but from a guy who’s scalping them and tripping the cost, new blood leaves and finds a different hobby for that dopamine fix. Other hobbies will sell their product to you on demand. No one wants to be a part of something that makes them feel like a loser… SNKRS. Eventually, after dabbling in the scene and blowing a couple of grand but still never owning the ones they actually did want, they move on. Mix that at BS with a terrible economy and this is what you get. Also, the scene is corny and uncool.. bunch of 15hr old pasty influencers talking bout “I gOtChU mY bOi”… cringe. It’s a scene filled with people who seems to be suburban kids in gated communities cosplaying like they’re from the streets. It’s noticeably gotten cornier. Eventually, people back away. Just be yourself and wear your shoes. If you’re a cool person, you don’t have to pretend to be something you’re not. I also agree with corporate greed.
Remember when people were bringing down AJ1 mids in favour of higher priced highs….resulting in resellers pricing highs at a juicy profit margin way above its retail price…..even though the shoe costs Nike $40 to make.
Fix the sneaker market? Nothing is wrong with it. I picked up the new NMD G1 for $45. Ultraboost web for $57. Some adidas basketball shoes to donate for $22. Some water shoes for my kid for $13 all from adidas. Also picked up 4 Yeezy slides for $70 retail. It's a great market. I get what I want at below retail or retail.
Something i didn't see mentioned was how the IRS will begin taxing online resellers starting this year. It'll be interesting to see how the market reacts when those statements have to be filed.
LET IT DIE! It is ridiculous that SB's that used to be 150 - 200 bucks are up in the high 100's and into the 1000's. The sneaker market has more sellers in it than buyers because all the resellers are literally selling to other resellers. Add on inflation and just the cost of everyday living going through the roof, people simply do not have the extra funds to buy that $130 - $250 pair of shoes let alone $500 to $1000+. The only people who are mad about this are resellers because their product isn't moving, this whole sneaker was supposed to be just being fresh and wearing dope kicks while appreciating other dope kicks.
I wanted a pair of the varsity red Jordan 11’s sold out on Nike but everywhere on reseller sites ended up buying a pair on Stock x for £151 plus fees but Nike retail price was £179 there also £151 on GOAT. Seems like there all being hoarded buy resellers that are making a loss. I’m in the Uk there’s a pair of air max 95’s on Nike app not an OG colour way & there selling out on Nike for £179 then being sold on Stock X for £300
Dead? It's not normal for every gr to sell out before any actual people have a chance to buy. The sneaker market is going back to the way it should. With a little effort everyone should be able to grab most GRs for retail.
I'm very very happy to see the sneaker market to die which means those who are into buying and wearing sneakers will be the ones to benefit. This will be the end for most "resellers" because they can't make some money of sneakers they will never wear nor care about and they will hopefully find a real job. A culture focused on "market value" and greed will eventually implode itself and you see this by sneaker shop owners scamming their own consignees and employees, resell stores closing left and right. Hopefully time will come where shoes will be just shoes, no more and no less.
Any true sneaker head should be glad. Can buy things at retail, can actually see them in person before buying, have time to consider them and what outfits they go with before buying them, can finally wear what we like... Honestly dont see any downsides. Unless you are a reseller. Sux2bu 😂
Tbh it's a mix of over saturation and stagnation plus market abuse from the prospecting market.. I've dropped Nike and Adidas for Hoka and Asics because I'll be honest.. Arahis and Kayanos are better quality shoes than Ultra boost or Jordan's..
For me personally, i stopped buying Jordans because i felt stupid having to jump through a ring of fire, while juggling chainsaws with an apple in my mouth, just to give Nike my $200. You shouldnt have to go through all of that nonsense to purchase a product! As a business, your product should be easily accessible and your customers shouldnt have to beg to buy your product
Shoe companies lost the point.. that shoe's are burn through items' ... burn through 1 customers will buy another soon. But when 1 item cost $200.00 most don't want to burn through those items.. the expensive priced shoes rarely gets seen on the court- so the advertisement is lost for that expensive shoes- because no one sees anyone playing in it. And when 1 shoe cost $200.00 most people like myself will think about buying 2 decent shoes with that price point instead of purchasing 1 $200.00 shoe
The Sneaker game is horrible. I'm not hating on bots and cats flipping their kicks, but there's no story to them. No hunt for them. The whole vibe of scooping up the kicks was / were there was always a dope story behind them. The Whole vibe, art and mystique are gone. Truly not hating but it's just whack.
don't need to fix it... it's a great time to buy sneakers, just like the old times, we can go in store to get sneakers. Thanks to the resale market Nike understood that people have no problem paying 250-300 or even more for a pair of Js, so they can raise their prices and we continue to pay. do not think about it too much,it is not broken.
I for one am glad that the whole 2nd seller, overpriced, artificial scarcity sneakers market is dying. It's just a greater fool scheme. Hopefully, now people can just buy things they like and wear them.
Resellers, both persons and platforms suck, but what really is killing the market is the ever increasing prices while simultaneously decreasing quality (looking at you Nike).
I thought its only happening in our country, so its a global thing? People are buying less sneakers these days. Some shops even closed down. Maybe the boom times' over. Well, some of current designs really ugly anyway.
For me it’s the big drop in quality - I’ve stopped buying any Nikes, cause the materials they use are outrageous. For me it‘s max one pair a month now and I‘m very picky
But why should we be worried about those who think they can flip it? That’s exactly what went wrong with the sneaker game in the 1st place. I can’t still going to pick up my space jams from 2010 and no one was there.
I think it’s not really having to do with the reasons mentioned. Let’s focus on Nike for a second but this applies across the board, they saw that resellers were taking all the shoes and making lots of money off of them at the expense of everyone else. Well aside from that not being right, it also left money on the table. If Nike just produced more products then the resellers are left holding the bag and Nike can sell more shoes at retail price and that makes Nike happy because they sold EVEN MORE shoes than before and that makes the average consumer happy, meanwhile the resellers have to hold their supply because they can’t move it. If you hate scummy resellers then this makes you happy. The price of this is lack of exclusivity but in the grand scheme of things that doesn’t matter much
I'll honestly keep buying well made and quality replicas if I can't cop on release day, until the sneaker industry gets it and corrects itself. to me it's the only way I make manufacturers pay for the part they play in the sneaker resell cancer bubble. There is no legit excuse for any sneaker in the world to be sold out on release day, none whatsoever. Real sneaker users and abusers can't cop at retail on release day, because of bots or resellers and then can't ever cop because of the hyped up price. What's a sneakerhead to do??? Cop the same exact shoe, a replica, hell even sometimes better made than the real product at an affordable retail like price, regardless if it's legit or not, cause again: It's just a friggin shoe peeps!!! I sincerely don't give a hootoot if they are legit or not cause no one can't tell these days period, full stop. I rather be satisfied on putting the shoe I like or want without any headaches of having to chase mirage dreams or stupid grails that at the end of day don't add any personal or monetary value to me...
Its not dying but normalized like 10 to 15 years ago where you could actually pick the colorway that you wanted for your Kobes. Hence "sneaker culture" these days should not be save at all.
Really the every day customer who actually want the shoe to wear it could easily shut reselling down by either you hit on the shoe or don't buy resell. When you buy resell it embolden the resellers to keep scalping. But imagine a reseller buying 10 pair of jordan 3 j balvin an nobody buys period. He would eventually sell them retail or for a lost.
Long live a dying sneaker market. A) I cant to sell anything for even half the value 😂 B) dope pairs are sitting and resold pairs is only for extra lunch money..... I will take it
I don’t even need hype but the retail on many shoes are too expensive, even when Nike runs sales, it’s 20% off, that’s lame…at least with adidas, you can really get steals when they run sales which makes me gravitate to a bigger collection of bargains
I got the Jordan woodland camo and air force orange skeleton for retail was happy wanna get sum special editions i got lucky with the Jordan 3 laser oranges
Too many releases, too many of which are lazy, an over-saturated market and some prices that just take the piss. New Balance Made have had some serious QC issues lately and they need to watch that. As for the resellers, they can just get in the bin.
I know I’m a little late, but Hes can you elaborate on the StockX “deauthentic” situation? Was there a change in their process of authenticating sneakers? Not that I ever had faith in the process to begin with
When there is no more Yeezys and Off-White Nike ollbavs have been ass when they have plenty of greats still unreleased I'm not surprised the market sucks
high prices for terrible quality. Nike/JB intentionally use crappy materials so your shoes look beat sooner that way you keep buying them once they retro again.
6:12 I don't etehier when the latest in sports tech with tons of foam and carbon fiber is cheaper then a 30 year old designed sneaker that just in a fun color way...
The trance has been broken. The market is dead for a long time, maybe permanently. People realize these are just shoes - to be worn on your feet, and that's about all.
A lot of the sneaker company’s are publicly traded and have to pay dividends to the share holders if they aren’t growing people wont buy the stock and the company loses money. If a company can’t sale more sneakers they raise prices to hit those targets.
Honestly, I hope it dies. It was bound to happen with all the bots and price gouging along with the recession and pandemic. Sneakers should be for everyone and the niche people that love this shit deserve a better shot at releases and "grails".
Various factors, most covered already but another is society negativity, social media is a cesspool of moaning and spreading misery across everything, movies, music, sports, sneakers are no different, lots of opinions and the negative ones spread like cancer thus creating "that's trash" etc on latest releases
I just think jordan has continued to drop more and more mediocre products. Adidas never never had a grip on the culture since Yeezys ended. And new balance just releases the same thing over and over again.
It's a cycle that I've seen repeat itself: Nike limits releases in order to create hype for their products -> people complain that releases are too limited and hard to get -> Nike then floods the market -> Resellers get mad that they can't resell, Nike gets grumpy that they can't drum enough hype -> Back to Nike limiting releases again. Question is, is there a way to make both parties (consumers who just want the product vs. resellers) happy?
No, because it's all artificial. Sneaker companies work with sneaker media (including shoetubers) to tell you what's cool and what you should be hyped about. Instead as someone who will like the shoe for themselves, the majority fall in the trap of "this must be cool, I'm not sure I like it because I don't know what I like." Then sneaker companies will limited the supply to make it seem special, that drives up interest and engagement. Then the resellers come and deplete the stock and jack up the prices. The faster people get over the hype sh!t and buy what they like, this cycle will never be broken. In the end, all this is garbage material being fed to us for huge profit.
Have a good day everyone!
People are broke! Time to start paying on lose student loans! Lmao!!!
it's only dying for the vulture resellers, finally it's returning to where it should be. Wear what you like not what Instagram and Tiktok like
100% agree And who cares what some kids wearing on Instagram you wear, what And what makes you happier
@@eleazarhepburn6618exactly bro I say that all the time fuck hype buy what u like I’m glad the reselling is dying so everyone can get a paid not have to pay stupid prices
Facts! I wanna see these vultures starve 😊
Aint that the damn truth
It's also dying because I gotta take a day off work or pay a kid or no life resale
If this is "dying" let it die. Let the people that actually want the shoes get them. It's nice walking into a store and actually being able to get something I wanted.
what about trading shoes?
If it dies it dies. We can get what we want on retail. F resell
Let the market die again , no need to revive it. We’re finally in a healthy space again.
Yes!
Exactly. It's only bad for resellers, great for collectors
Not yet if you're a sz 11.5+
would you trade shoes? instead of buying resell
Let it die please, sneakers should be affordable and worn. Its justshoes
Exactly. The fact that people are buying $200+ for $20 worth of cheap leather is still fucking insane to me.
@@jethrojacinto2798 i left the sneaker game 9 years ago. Ive worn outlet shoes and regular runners on sale since. “Fashion” becoming mainstream and resellers ruined it for me
let.. it.. die.
and let the hypebeast go along with it..
That's a good thing. Prices will continue to come down 👍 why is it discussed as a bad thing
Resellers are getting upset because the game is up for them.
Cuz this guy makes money reselling
Because resellers and hypebeast want to feel special.
because resellers and youtubers can clickbait for views
Prices wont go down on retail. Thats wishful thinking. If Nike/JB want people to keep buying then they need to go back to using full grain leather for their shoes. We are paying a lot more for a lesser product.
Thats what happens when people charge stupid ridiculous prices. So sick of sneakerheads now. They ruined it.
It still happens on shoes. Depends on the shoe.
You mean hypebeasts. Sneakerheads are people who genuinely like sneakers and purchase them for themselves. Not for clout.
I think you’re sick of resellers.
“Real” Sneaker heads and resellers are 2 different things trust me. Sneaker heads hate resellers also.
Why do sneakerheads(by heart), fix something thats “broken” for resellers? Let the people have access to the products they want w/o having to pay resell.
I think UAs, too many releases, sneakers becoming more of a business rather than the actual culture is what’s happening.
It’s fucked right now I miss the old days
UA definitely, bootleggers perfected 11s, its JB fault for using cheap materials so its easy for them to get faked.
I'm so glad the hype is dying down. Tired of every half decent shoe being sold out all the time in minutes. Maybe now people can actually wear their shoes.
I love the buyers market rn. I go beyond and lowball and some get accepted. And if they deny, they gon come back when rent is due 😭😭
and u have shoes that wont sell 🤣
@@geert574 Good thing I only get what I love and wear all my shoes 😭
@@geert574😂😂😂😂
buying a shoe for resale potential is corny, no getting past it
Everything is returning to normal. It makes me nostalgic to go to my favorite Foot Locker near my house, see that they have the Jordan Retro 5 "Burgundy" available in piles, retail price that I can buy them without any kind of problem and keep on walking without any kind of problem like in the old days.
I got completely out of the sneaker game when I saw what happened with Kobe shoes. The line was at a place where they were widely available to all the real fans, then he tragically passed away and quickly people capitalized on his death. This was sickening to me. Then Nike comes out and says future releases will go to people with Kobe purchase history. I estimated I have around $7,000 of Kobe rated product purchases, dating back as far as 2005, yet I struck out on every release since his death. So I’m done. I will no longer support this company that doesn’t reward me for my commitment to their product and athlete.
Everytime I see a Complex video for sneaker "shopping" I'm reminded how its dying. You see the faces of these celebrities turn sour when they see the bill. Imagine the common folk trying to get into sneakers and being stonewalled with these crazy prices.
I'm in my early 40s, and I just can't bring myself to care about "hyped" shoes anymore. Give me a pair of 990 V6s and some sort of Nike to match all my MLB gear, and I'm good to go.
I agree.
Never been better i can get any shoe i want
Let the resell market and hype die. I'm enjoying buying sneakers I like at retail and discounted prices.
There is nothing to fix this is how it should be. Easy access and affordable
I like it! because everyone can get things for relative "good" prices and people are not afraid anymore to wear the stuff:)
The downfall started when GOAT started sponsoring big youtubers with crazy sneakers in 2017 and then sneakers went mainstream. Same thing for streetwear like Supreme and Bape.
These sneakers are too damn high lol
The problem is there’s collectors and there’s resellers. The language calls it The Market when it used to be a Culture (or subculture rather - derived from hip hop and skateboarding). I’m all for the crash. It just means the releases that real “Sneakerheads”
Want to obtain are going to be easier. I love the days when I would actually be upset about taking an L at a lineup, rather than be frustrated that I might have to pick up my shoes for 2 to 3 times retail. When NikeTalk was not a market place, but rather a place to share and help others get their grails without the intent of profiting, just to be a good person and help a brother out
I honestly believe that the air Jordan ones ruined the sneaker market they saturated the market with so many colours ways and styles I used to love Jordan’s but now there just a generic band boring and overdone and overpriced
What a great time to be a sneakerhead
How is it "dying"????? People are wearing AJ 1S on the frakin News channels!! I saw Michael Symon wearing them!!! Footlockers cant hold onto Dunk low Pandas!!! How is it dying when LITTERLY EVERYONE is wearing AJs, and NMDs??????!!!???
I purchase top quality reps ($150-$180) for PERSONAL USE. I see it as dumb loyalty to pay $500-$1500 when a top rep (which often looks and has as good as or even better quality than retail.
I would condemn scammers trying to sell reps as retails with inflated prices... but also, don't compare a rep shoe which has practical utility to a rep baseball card which is solely a collectors item.
I got into sneaker collecting when the Nike Tom sach GPS dropped(the yellow ones… I was late) then got a pair of the yellow, and brown ones. And now I’m an adidas guy, as far as shoes. But those new New Balance shoes you had on your channel, are NICE!
As on og sneaker head who started the journey in the mid 90s im hella happy that the market is hella over saturated to the point that everyone is a copy paste nike dunk/jordan1 / collab limited buyer, they flooded the market and its no longer "special" to be a sneaker head in their circle. As an og we are hella spoiled to the point that we can almost get every basketball sneaker that was lusted for as a child. From shaqnosis to the gp gloves Nike air bakins ndestruckts uptempo zoom95 foams fila hill, and1 tai chi you name it. And all these can easily be copped. So to the ones who hypebeast the hell outta the copy paste kicks in the game i never thought i woudo say this but thank you 🫡 from an og sneakerhead born in 86.
How to fix: Carbon footprint!??! Oh then the recycled shoes from Adidas should be selling off the shelves. Oh wait.. nope. That would not fix a single thing. Even some of the biggest investors just pulled out of ESG. The Adidas ocean shoes weren't even selling at the peak of sneakerhype.
No need to fix it. Let it die. Ridiculous that a GR release dunk would “resell” for 2-300 dollars. People that just want to wear their shoes will benefit from it dying.
I just buy what I like (which is mainly adidas, and mostly ultraboost).
Oversaturated market
Counterfeits
High prices
And Hype
I feel like hype beast culture has really made it hard for late game entry. I’m fairly new to collecting so I was buying a lot of older models and it was pretty smooth sailing 9/10 most older models were fairly priced, but God forbid I miss a current release and toy with the notion of looking on Goat or StockX it’s practically double retail an hour after the release and it takes some weeks sitting, if they do, before the prices level themselves out. Social media can really exasperate this feeling of having missed out so waiting for price stabilization tends to have a lot of people just pull the trigger so they’re not feeling left out making it harder for a reasonable aftermarket price to be achieved
If you're getting in now, it's the best time, tbh. Everything is coming down in price. Patience is key.
The market doesn’t need fixing, the culture does.
The sneaker market is fine, retail price is up "thank grandpa Joe" it's the resale market that people are crying about.
If it's dying, that's cool.. this generation has been screwed by reselling...
I never want to wear fakes but I definitely don’t want to 3 or 4x the retail price so… that’s why I’m slowly stopping to buy shoes in general
what about trading shoes?
Its only dying for people tryna make major profit? for a person who wants sneakers to have n wear its better
Hope it dies! No need to fix it RIP
I'm happy I woke up from this stupid addiction. It's one thing to actually be a collector by passion. But, a lot of people end up calling themselves "collectors" but they're actually hoarders who've became addicted to the hype. Myself use to be into this whole sneaker shit but when I went through my financial low it really opened my eyes. Ppl making bank on these shoes 8 times out of 10 is scamming in one way or another anyways. I hope others wake up.
I collect shoes. I have over 6 pairs of Kswiss
I can't believe I actually agree with the points that ChatGPT laid out.
No need to revive it. It’s only dead to hype beasts and resellers. I’ve been happy copping drops at retail with almost no issue.
What can be done to fix it? Stop inflation and use good materials again instead of dulling down looks, while raising prices and cutting collabs
No my friend,
The sneaker market
Is DEAD
Its basically supply and demand.
Joe Biden economy finally reaching them Jordans ey 😆
oversaturation imo. we DONT need every colorway of the Jordan 1 or Jordan 3/4/5 😅. i’m just burnt out on so many sneakers releasing. not only Jordan’s but we got New Balance, Asics, Adidas, etc.
Air max 1, 90, 95, and 97 too
@@jaygray825 that too 😆
i only pay retail for sneakers. if i miss i miss. screw the resellers
Thank the resellers
See Most Big Companies including Nike are manufacturing overseas so a lot of money is already going overseas for FS but I can’t believe how many people just overlook this critical “ problem “ in the supply chain lmfaoooo
Its more like things are returning to normal 😂
Thinking that shoes was a good investment was the problem all along
Over Production. EVERY WEEK NEW RELEASE. with the same shoes.. only different colors. High Price increase $200 plus tax. RESELLERS. INFLATION. And ALMOST everybody already have a HUGE PILED OF collection of SHOES IN THEIR CABINET.. Too much shoes isn't that SMART anymore.. knowing you cant even USE THEN ALL. sitting on your room. And cant even sell them on a great value already on line. Almost everybody is done buying smeakers. TOO MUCH is NOT GOOD. 😔😔😔
Some people have never won a draw on SNKRS for a shoe they wanted. The rise in sneaker sales was from new blood but when they realize they aren’t allowed to bug a sneaker from the company that sells it but from a guy who’s scalping them and tripping the cost, new blood leaves and finds a different hobby for that dopamine fix. Other hobbies will sell their product to you on demand. No one wants to be a part of something that makes them feel like a loser… SNKRS. Eventually, after dabbling in the scene and blowing a couple of grand but still never owning the ones they actually did want, they move on. Mix that at BS with a terrible economy and this is what you get. Also, the scene is corny and uncool.. bunch of 15hr old pasty influencers talking bout “I gOtChU mY bOi”… cringe. It’s a scene filled with people who seems to be suburban kids in gated communities cosplaying like they’re from the streets. It’s noticeably gotten cornier. Eventually, people back away. Just be yourself and wear your shoes. If you’re a cool person, you don’t have to pretend to be something you’re not. I also agree with corporate greed.
Remember when people were bringing down AJ1 mids in favour of higher priced highs….resulting in resellers pricing highs at a juicy profit margin way above its retail price…..even though the shoe costs Nike $40 to make.
Fix the sneaker market? Nothing is wrong with it. I picked up the new NMD G1 for $45. Ultraboost web for $57. Some adidas basketball shoes to donate for $22. Some water shoes for my kid for $13 all from adidas. Also picked up 4 Yeezy slides for $70 retail. It's a great market. I get what I want at below retail or retail.
Something i didn't see mentioned was how the IRS will begin taxing online resellers starting this year. It'll be interesting to see how the market reacts when those statements have to be filed.
Oversaturated. Overhyped. Depreciating. U NEED a good shoe thats comfortable and decent looking thats comfortable enough to wear daily.
LET IT DIE! It is ridiculous that SB's that used to be 150 - 200 bucks are up in the high 100's and into the 1000's. The sneaker market has more sellers in it than buyers because all the resellers are literally selling to other resellers. Add on inflation and just the cost of everyday living going through the roof, people simply do not have the extra funds to buy that $130 - $250 pair of shoes let alone $500 to $1000+. The only people who are mad about this are resellers because their product isn't moving, this whole sneaker was supposed to be just being fresh and wearing dope kicks while appreciating other dope kicks.
I wanted a pair of the varsity red Jordan 11’s sold out on Nike but everywhere on reseller sites ended up buying a pair on Stock x for £151 plus fees but Nike retail price was £179 there also £151 on GOAT. Seems like there all being hoarded buy resellers that are making a loss. I’m in the Uk there’s a pair of air max 95’s on Nike app not an OG colour way & there selling out on Nike for £179 then being sold on Stock X for £300
Dead? It's not normal for every gr to sell out before any actual people have a chance to buy. The sneaker market is going back to the way it should. With a little effort everyone should be able to grab most GRs for retail.
I'm very very happy to see the sneaker market to die which means those who are into buying and wearing sneakers will be the ones to benefit. This will be the end for most "resellers" because they can't make some money of sneakers they will never wear nor care about and they will hopefully find a real job. A culture focused on "market value" and greed will eventually implode itself and you see this by sneaker shop owners scamming their own consignees and employees, resell stores closing left and right. Hopefully time will come where shoes will be just shoes, no more and no less.
Any true sneaker head should be glad. Can buy things at retail, can actually see them in person before buying, have time to consider them and what outfits they go with before buying them, can finally wear what we like... Honestly dont see any downsides.
Unless you are a reseller. Sux2bu 😂
I went to 4-5 different sneaker stores yesterday and they were all packed. Long lines to checkout and tons of people asking for Jordans.
Tbh it's a mix of over saturation and stagnation plus market abuse from the prospecting market..
I've dropped Nike and Adidas for Hoka and Asics because I'll be honest.. Arahis and Kayanos are better quality shoes than Ultra boost or Jordan's..
For me personally, i stopped buying Jordans because i felt stupid having to jump through a ring of fire, while juggling chainsaws with an apple in my mouth, just to give Nike my $200. You shouldnt have to go through all of that nonsense to purchase a product! As a business, your product should be easily accessible and your customers shouldnt have to beg to buy your product
Shoe companies lost the point.. that shoe's are burn through items' ... burn through 1 customers will buy another soon. But when 1 item cost $200.00 most don't want to burn through those items.. the expensive priced shoes rarely gets seen on the court- so the advertisement is lost for that expensive shoes- because no one sees anyone playing in it.
And when 1 shoe cost $200.00 most people like myself will think about buying 2 decent shoes with that price point instead of purchasing 1 $200.00 shoe
The Sneaker game is horrible.
I'm not hating on bots and cats flipping their kicks, but there's no story to them. No hunt for them. The whole vibe of scooping up the kicks was / were there was always a dope story behind them. The Whole vibe, art and mystique are gone.
Truly not hating but it's just whack.
don't need to fix it... it's a great time to buy sneakers, just like the old times, we can go in store to get sneakers.
Thanks to the resale market Nike understood that people have no problem paying 250-300 or even more for a pair of Js, so they can raise their prices and we continue to pay. do not think about it too much,it is not broken.
I for one am glad that the whole 2nd seller, overpriced, artificial scarcity sneakers market is dying. It's just a greater fool scheme. Hopefully, now people can just buy things they like and wear them.
Is the overload of sneakers.
Collaborations every single week, not especial no more.
Resellers,Backdoor door, Marcus Jordan 😂😂😂
Resellers, both persons and platforms suck, but what really is killing the market is the ever increasing prices while simultaneously decreasing quality (looking at you Nike).
I thought its only happening in our country, so its a global thing? People are buying less sneakers these days. Some shops even closed down. Maybe the boom times' over. Well, some of current designs really ugly anyway.
For me it’s the big drop in quality - I’ve stopped buying any Nikes, cause the materials they use are outrageous. For me it‘s max one pair a month now and I‘m very picky
But why should we be worried about those who think they can flip it? That’s exactly what went wrong with the sneaker game in the 1st place. I can’t still going to pick up my space jams from 2010 and no one was there.
I think it’s not really having to do with the reasons mentioned. Let’s focus on Nike for a second but this applies across the board, they saw that resellers were taking all the shoes and making lots of money off of them at the expense of everyone else. Well aside from that not being right, it also left money on the table. If Nike just produced more products then the resellers are left holding the bag and Nike can sell more shoes at retail price and that makes Nike happy because they sold EVEN MORE shoes than before and that makes the average consumer happy, meanwhile the resellers have to hold their supply because they can’t move it. If you hate scummy resellers then this makes you happy. The price of this is lack of exclusivity but in the grand scheme of things that doesn’t matter much
I'll honestly keep buying well made and quality replicas if I can't cop on release day, until the sneaker industry gets it and corrects itself. to me it's the only way I make manufacturers pay for the part they play in the sneaker resell cancer bubble. There is no legit excuse for any sneaker in the world to be sold out on release day, none whatsoever. Real sneaker users and abusers can't cop at retail on release day, because of bots or resellers and then can't ever cop because of the hyped up price. What's a sneakerhead to do??? Cop the same exact shoe, a replica, hell even sometimes better made than the real product at an affordable retail like price, regardless if it's legit or not, cause again: It's just a friggin shoe peeps!!! I sincerely don't give a hootoot if they are legit or not cause no one can't tell these days period, full stop. I rather be satisfied on putting the shoe I like or want without any headaches of having to chase mirage dreams or stupid grails that at the end of day don't add any personal or monetary value to me...
Its not dying but normalized like 10 to 15 years ago where you could actually pick the colorway that you wanted for your Kobes. Hence "sneaker culture" these days should not be save at all.
adidas has been pushing sustainability & including RFID tags since 2016.
Really the every day customer who actually want the shoe to wear it could easily shut reselling down by either you hit on the shoe or don't buy resell. When you buy resell it embolden the resellers to keep scalping. But imagine a reseller buying 10 pair of jordan 3 j balvin an nobody buys period. He would eventually sell them retail or for a lost.
Long live a dying sneaker market. A) I cant to sell anything for even half the value 😂 B) dope pairs are sitting and resold pairs is only for extra lunch money..... I will take it
I don’t even need hype but the retail on many shoes are too expensive, even when Nike runs sales, it’s 20% off, that’s lame…at least with adidas, you can really get steals when they run sales which makes me gravitate to a bigger collection of bargains
Man it's simple - money. It's always money. The economy is rough on a lot of people and it's always money. There was nothing wrong until 2021.
I got the Jordan woodland camo and air force orange skeleton for retail was happy wanna get sum special editions i got lucky with the Jordan 3 laser oranges
Too many releases, too many of which are lazy, an over-saturated market and some prices that just take the piss. New Balance Made have had some serious QC issues lately and they need to watch that. As for the resellers, they can just get in the bin.
I know I’m a little late, but Hes can you elaborate on the StockX “deauthentic” situation? Was there a change in their process of authenticating sneakers? Not that I ever had faith in the process to begin with
Talking about each ChatGPT Bullet Point for 10 minutes is wild
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When there is no more Yeezys and Off-White Nike ollbavs have been ass when they have plenty of greats still unreleased I'm not surprised the market sucks
If it’s dying DO NOT revive it. I repeat DO NOT revive it. We are actually able to get everything we want at reasonable prices.
high prices for terrible quality. Nike/JB intentionally use crappy materials so your shoes look beat sooner that way you keep buying them once they retro again.
6:12 I don't etehier when the latest in sports tech with tons of foam and carbon fiber is cheaper then a 30 year old designed sneaker that just in a fun color way...
The trance has been broken. The market is dead for a long time, maybe permanently. People realize these are just shoes - to be worn on your feet, and that's about all.
A lot of the sneaker company’s are publicly traded and have to pay dividends to the share holders if they aren’t growing people wont buy the stock and the company loses money. If a company can’t sale more sneakers they raise prices to hit those targets.
What is there to be "fixed"? Sneakers are generally more available (or affordable) for regular customers, the fix is already here.
Honestly, I hope it dies. It was bound to happen with all the bots and price gouging along with the recession and pandemic. Sneakers should be for everyone and the niche people that love this shit deserve a better shot at releases and "grails".
Various factors, most covered already but another is society negativity, social media is a cesspool of moaning and spreading misery across everything, movies, music, sports, sneakers are no different, lots of opinions and the negative ones spread like cancer thus creating "that's trash" etc on latest releases
Materialism is dying and thank god for that - prices dropping is only a good thing. Sneakers we're in a bubble
I just think jordan has continued to drop more and more mediocre products. Adidas never never had a grip on the culture since Yeezys ended. And new balance just releases the same thing over and over again.
It's a cycle that I've seen repeat itself: Nike limits releases in order to create hype for their products -> people complain that releases are too limited and hard to get -> Nike then floods the market -> Resellers get mad that they can't resell, Nike gets grumpy that they can't drum enough hype -> Back to Nike limiting releases again. Question is, is there a way to make both parties (consumers who just want the product vs. resellers) happy?
No, because it's all artificial. Sneaker companies work with sneaker media (including shoetubers) to tell you what's cool and what you should be hyped about. Instead as someone who will like the shoe for themselves, the majority fall in the trap of "this must be cool, I'm not sure I like it because I don't know what I like." Then sneaker companies will limited the supply to make it seem special, that drives up interest and engagement. Then the resellers come and deplete the stock and jack up the prices. The faster people get over the hype sh!t and buy what they like, this cycle will never be broken. In the end, all this is garbage material being fed to us for huge profit.